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spk05: Welcome to the NextGen Healthcare Fiscal 2023 Fourth Quarter Results Conference Call. Hosting the call today from NextGen are David Sides, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jamie Arnold, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on listen-only mode. The floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. We ask that you please pick up your handset to allow for optimal sound quality. Lastly, if you require operator assistance, please press star zero. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to James Hammerschmidt, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations of NextGen. James, you may begin.
spk10: Thank you, Operator. Before we start, please note that we will be making forward-looking statements during the presentation and the Q&A part of the call. These statements are based on management's current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that may cause actual results to materially differ from expectations are detailed in our earnings release and SEC filing. This call will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information about non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliation to U.S. GAAP, can also be found in our earnings release, which is available on our investor relations website. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to our president and CEO, David Sides.
spk12: Thank you, James. And thank you to all who have joined the call today. I will start today's call by covering some of the more notable accomplishments in our fiscal fourth quarter, then review our performance for the fiscal year, and finally provide an outlook on why we are excited for fiscal year 2024 before turning the call over to Jamie to take you through the financial commentary. We will then close the call and open it up for questions. Starting with fourth quarter accomplishments, The team continues to execute well, which resulted in solid performance to end the fiscal year. Bookings grew both year over year and sequentially, which means another new quarterly bookings record. We continue to see strong demand inside the base for our surround solutions and interoperability capabilities. Our ability to serve integrated care organizations, we need a single platform that combines both medical and behavioral health continues to differentiate us in the market, leading to more flagship wins. Revenue came in better than expected for the quarter, resulting in 18% year-over-year growth for the company. While subscriptions showed significant growth as expected with the acquisition of TSI, we also were pleased that revenue cycle management saw an increase in collections, and our transactional and data services were ahead of plan. Furthermore, perpetual license sales came in above our prior six-quarter trend and our expectations. We had the opportunity to spend time with both current and prospective clients at Vibe and HIMSS the last two months. We approached these industry trade shows to validate our areas of focus and investment. Clients are looking for EHR-powered workflows that enable care beyond traditional practice settings. mobile tools that allow doctors to treat patients wherever they may be, and increased focus on equitable patient access and provider well-being. From an interoperability perspective, FHIR and integrations with social determinants of health content and social services continue to be a repeating thing. These are all key areas that we are investing in, which will position us nicely in the market. We also see opportunities in healthcare IT to partner with leading tech players to accelerate innovation and unlock new business models. At Vive, we hosted a joint event with Snowflake and AWS, which had over 200 attendees. One example of these partnerships was the launch of MirthCloud Connect, a cloud-based solution that provides interoperability as a managed service, leveraging our market-leading MirthConnect interoperability engine and our partnership with AWS. The new offering is designed to help solve clinical data exchange challenges faced by large physician networks and health technology vendors. From an operations standpoint, we continue to invest in building a scalable infrastructure to facilitate growth. The team is focused on process improvement, identifying areas where we can leverage technology systems and automation to improve our own operating model. One recent example was the decision to consolidate multiple HR, payroll, and recruiting systems to a single integrated global platform. Now I'd like to take a moment to provide a brief update on a security-related matter that occurred during the quarter. At the end of March, we were alerted to suspicious activity involving our next-gen office system. As a reminder, this is our small physician office system and is a tenth the size of our next-gen enterprise system. which has the bulk of our client base. We executed our internal response procedures, engaged the support of leading outside cyber experts, and notified law enforcement. Following our forensic investigation, we determined that an unknown third party gained unauthorized access to a limited set of personal information stored on a NextGen office system. Based on our investigation, this did not include patient health or medical information. At the end of April, we notified impacted NGO providers and their patients, as well as state regulatory authorities. As you know from our discussion on our last earnings call, we also experienced an incident in January. We continue to work with independent experts to ascertain whether personal information has been impacted, and to the extent the detailed analysis reveals that personal information has been impacted, we will notify individuals accordingly. Security in all its forms is and will continue to be a top priority for next-gen healthcare. While we have determined that the recent incident was the result of stolen client credentials from sources and incidents unrelated to next-gen, we are taking action to further strengthen our security with the help of our independent experts. I will close my comments on the quarter by discussing our progress on the integration of PSI, the first acquisition the company has done in several years. It's on track and going well. We're making the investments we said we'd make, which includes ramping up dedicated sales resourcing and demand generation, migrating from a co-location facility to AWS in the cloud, and continuing the base upgrade to the latest CURE-certified version. We remain encouraged by the opportunity it represents, not just with NextGen Enterprise, but also with NextGen Insights and the data potential. Now to reflect on the full year. We've made significant progress on the long-term goals we outlined last May, which include building a path to deliver double-digit revenue growth, investing to create operating leverage, and demonstrating disciplined capital management. Here are some key accomplishments I'd like to highlight. Bookings came in aligned with our plan, growing 9% year-over-year with net new client wins, contributing about 25% of total bookings. while continuing to cross-sell our surround solutions. Revenue for the year grew 9.5%, which was a combination of turning bookings into revenue and maintaining strong client retention, which has been further accelerated by the TSI acquisition. We were one of the first to achieve Cures Act certification and invested in the Upgrade Center of Excellence to give our clients predictability and best practices throughout their upgrade process. We became a remote-first organization, reducing our facility and carbon footprint, while also improving the employee experience, which was recognized by Forbes and Newsweek America for the second year in a row. We divested our commercial dental assets, which further focused the company on our core mission, and we raised capital through a convertible, which provides us access to dry powder at a favorable cost. Feels like a full year, lining us up to achieve our long-term financial goals. Looking forward to next year and the strategic drivers that will lead to sustainable growth, fiscal year 24 will be about commercial execution and continuing to invest in innovation, which will carry momentum into fiscal year 25 and beyond. I'd like to talk about some of the areas we are investing in to deliver sustained organic growth. We will continue to scale our investment in the enterprise data cloud in partnership with AWS and Snowflake. to deliver a broad set of data solutions to our customers. We will work with our clients to unlock the value of their own data and make it seamless to integrate with third-party data and test new monetization models. This will ultimately become a flywheel for innovation, improving our speed to market and ability to impact client outcomes. I'm also excited for the opportunity we see in interoperability. both the migration to a fully managed interoperability as a service in the cloud, as well as the ability to support international clients who also have scaled needs. We will be focused on enhancing our value-based care analytics capabilities and clinical operation support to help providers achieve superior quality and financial outcomes when participating in ACOs and other alternative payment models. We believe the ability to deliver insights at the point of care through the provider's current systems of use, like the EHR, will be a differentiating capability for enabling providers to take on risk. And finally, we will continue to focus on removing friction out of the physician experience with investments in mobility and voice enablement. I'm confident that with our strong position in the market, our highly engaged and committed client base, and these new organic growth initiatives, we can sustain mid to high single-digit revenue growth, which provides a solid foundation to layer on inorganic effort to reach our 10% plus revenue growth target. Touching on M&A, our corporate development team is busy building and maintaining an active pipeline of opportunities. We see opportunity to further accelerate growth, especially related to next-gen insights so the right acquisition could gain access to new capabilities and solutions we can sell back into our well-established commercial channel. And, of course, we will continue to be prudent when considering strategic and financial fit during the M&A process. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jamie to provide an update on the financials. Jamie?
spk08: Thank you, David. Before diving into the fourth quarter results, I would like to comment on our fiscal year 2023 accomplishments. As David mentioned, total revenue of $653.2 million increased 9.5 percent compared to last year and was ahead of our full-year guidance updated in January. Subscription services revenue of $184 million grew 13.2 percent. Managed services revenue grew of $129.1 million grew 15.9 percent, and transaction and data services revenue of $127.2 million grew 15.6 percent. Software revenue of $27.9 million declined 11.6 percent. On a GAAP basis, fully diluted net loss per share was four cents compared to a net earnings per share of two cents a year ago. On a non-GAAP basis, fully diluted earnings per share of 98 cents compared to 98 cents in the prior year. These results reflect strong execution on the commercial side and deliberate cost management efforts balanced against the investments made to support long-term growth plans. Now turning to the fourth quarter results. Total bookings came in at 45 million. This represents a 9% increase from the fourth quarter of last year and slightly above the prior quarter. There were $4 million deals in the quarter. As a reminder, bookings represent the annual contract value excluding renewals. Total revenue for the quarter was $178.6 million, an 18% increase year over year. Recurring revenue accounted for $161.9 million, or 91% of total revenue. Recurring revenue grew 18% year over year. Subscription services revenue of $52 million grew 23.7%. Managed services revenue of $34.5 million grew 24.2%. And transaction and data services revenue of 36.6% grew 32.9%. The growth was fueled by a combination of revenue from acquisition of TSI plus acceleration of organic solutions. Non-recurring revenue for the quarter was $16.6 million, an 18% increase compared to the same quarter last year and a 26% increase from last quarter. Software revenue at $8.5 million came in higher than the prior six-quarter trend and exceeded our internal forecast largely due to a transaction where an existing client expanded licenses to consolidate acquired practices on our solution. Growth margin of 47.3% was down approximately 250 basis points compared to the same quarter last year, but modestly better than last quarter. As discussed on last quarter's earnings calls, we have made significant investment in our upgrade center of excellence and professional services, as well as a shaft and product mix. Margin improvement will continue to be a focus and spend related to upgrade center of excellence should start to moderate towards the end of fiscal year 24. Turning to operating expenses, net R&D expense was 20 million for the quarter. This is 1.6 percent decrease compared to the same quarter last year, which included several one-time pull-forward investments. SG&A of 83.3 million increased by 67 percent compared to the same quarter last year, largely because of a $35 million accrual for settlement of the DOJ matter. As noted in the earnings press release, We have an agreement in principle with the DOJ subject to final approval by them, resolving all claims against the company related to our previously disclosed investigation and key TAM lawsuit. We accrued approximately $32 million in anticipated settlement expense and $3 million in legal fees and costs related to the mediation and settlement. We do not anticipate a corporate integrity agreement as a result of the settlement. We expect to finalize the agreement soon and look forward to putting this behind us. Our non-GAAP tax rate for the year was 20% and we plan our non-GAAP tax rate for fiscal year 24 will be 21%. On a GAAP basis, Q4 diluted net loss per share was 38 cents. which includes the DOJ settlement accrual, compared to a net income of one cent per share for the same period a year ago. On a non-GAAP basis, fully diluted earnings per share for the fiscal fourth quarter of 2023 was 31 cents compared to 19 cents in the year-ago quarter. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the fiscal fourth quarter with $238.3 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities, and we had no balance outstanding on our line of credit. Free cash flow for the quarter was a negative $600,000. We did not repurchase shares in Q4, which means for the full fiscal year, we repurchased 2.7 million shares of common stock for a total of 49.9 million. And as of March 31, 2023, we have $74.3 million remaining in our share repurchase authorization. We plan to opportunistically assess share repurchases as a means of offsetting shareholder delusion from employee stock compensation with deploying capital to support M&A as the top priority for capital allocation. Turning to our fiscal 2024 financial guidance. As noted in the press release, we expect fiscal 24 total revenue to be in the range of $712 million to $722 million, which represents a year-over-year growth of 9.8% at the midpoint. Moving to our profitability targets, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $125 million to $131 million, and a non-GAAP EPS range of $1.04 to $1.11. In closing, I believe the company is well-positioned to meet our long-term objectives based on our strong bookings performance, operational execution, and disciplined deployment of capital for smart acquisitions like TSI. And now, let me turn the call back to David for closing comments.
spk12: Thank you, Jamie. NextGen continues to execute with a focus on driving growth for both us and our clients, and we're making the investments required to deliver long-term profitability and scale. Our overall positive outlook reflects the tailwinds we created by solely focusing on ambulatory care, our resilient business model, and our focus on driving shareholder value. Our ability to deliver sustained revenue growth and create a scalable infrastructure comes from our people and culture, and our ability to deliver value to the clients we serve. As always, I'm incredibly proud of the commitment and care shown by the NextGen family and their ability to drive results, both to each other and to our clients. This concludes my comments. Let's move to questions. Operator?
spk05: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. We ask that you please pick up your handset to allow for optimal sound quality. And our first question will come from Stephanie Davis with SVB Securities. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, guys. This is Anna Krasinski on for Stephanie. Thank you for taking our question. I'd first love to hear more about your commercial strategy execution being a key focus point for fiscal 24. Just curious how your approach here is shifting looking into this year and fiscal 25.
spk12: Thanks, Anna. So on 24, we're shifting some more resource to insights. So as we've created some of the new organic products and insights, like we mentioned, the Enterprise Data Cloud, MERS Cloud Connect, We're looking at and also taking Mirth International. Those three products we've now run through pilot stages. So we have feedback based from clients to refine our go-to-market strategy. And then also how do we go to market from a sales perspective to garner interest. And we're going to really fully execute that strategy starting this year. So we kind of built new products, new organic products. tested them with clients, refined them, saw what worked for them as far as how do we approach it, what messaging works, what's the pricing, and now we're taking that to market and we'll roll it out in earnest with additional resource.
spk01: Got it. Thank you. That's super helpful, Keller. And then as a quick follow-up, can you provide any color on the key swing factors and macro assumptions embedded in guidance, like what could get you to the high end versus the low end of the range?
spk12: So we always look at guidances of today. So, you know, the debt ceiling limit, maybe we'll see how that goes. So that's one of the things we kind of think that just works through. You know, we're looking at the macro of this next year, you know, for a Fed that is going to keep interest rates high or raise rates. So I think we're looking at it as kind of what you read in the paper, what you'd expect. And then what we've seen from, you know, the last quarter and the last year's performance, We're 91% recurring revenues, so that gives us a nice basis to look at the year every time we budget when 91% is recurring. And some of the non-recurring are things like services, which we can see with good visibility in our pipeline. So we feel good about the guidance today. The macro could always, you know, throw things off, but, you know, that's how we're thinking about it.
spk08: Yeah, I mean, I think what would drive the number to the high end or the low end, probably the biggest variable is software. We talked about it last quarter. You heard us talk about it this quarter. We had a really good quarter with software, but it appears to be trending down if you look a little bit longer term. And so that is a variable that could move us either side. If it remains strong, it would be upside to the forecast. And if it beacons off of not just the current run rate, but even the quarterly trends when you look back over the last six quarters or so, that would probably move us a little bit lower. Those are probably the areas that most variability. And that obviously has an impact on the EPS because of the high margin that software carries.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question will come from Jack Wallace with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is open.
spk02: Hey, thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on a great fourth quarter and pretty positive outlook for the year. Back at the analyst day last year, you broke out your segment, enterprise, office, data and insights. I was wondering if you could give us an update on the relative growth rates and for those three segments and just how they compare to your expectations, your pre-acquisition and divestitures.
spk12: Yeah, thanks, Jack. So how does Enterprise Office and Insight compare to our expectations from Investor Day last year as far as growth? I would say so far on track. So our guidance this year is in the range that we talked about at Investor Day. you'll see maybe a little bit more growth from enterprise now that we've, we've bought TSI, which consolidates into that segment than we might've said at the time. So a little stronger on, on enterprise, but otherwise in line with our thinking from, from investor day.
spk02: Got it. And then, you know, on the data insights business, you know, smaller growing faster. It sounds like there's been some, some R and D and, and,
spk08: Yeah, we're having a little trouble hearing you, Jack. On the insights, what we said, if you recall what we said last year, is that over the longer term, we expected to grow between 25% and 35%, but that it was going to take a couple of years to reach that level of production. And so 23, the performance was It was below that range, but we do expect to see some acceleration in 24, and certainly by 25, we would expect it to be at the low end of the guidance range that we provided last year.
spk02: Gotcha. That's helpful. Can you hear me better now?
spk00: Yes. Yes.
spk02: Okay. Sorry about that. Just a quick follow-up on the insights. And it sounds like there's an acceleration of resources going to those solutions, but I've heard you correctly, and that's not even including the potential for M&A. Is it fair to say that in terms of incremental contribution to growth over the next two to three years that that segment will be as large as, say, the office segment, if not larger?
spk12: It depends on the year you look, but it is accelerating. So there is an intercept there. Office will still grow in the double digits. But, you know, the 20% to 30% for insights catches up in some period of years. So we do see disproportionate growth there, and it's also, to your point, where we've invested in organic new product solutions, and any M&A will help, you know, with that piece, too, where we round out any parts of the offering that we need to bring additional technical capabilities.
spk08: Yeah, the intercept is, if you think of last year as year one in a five-year cycle, We gave kind of a five-year outlook. It's closer to year four and five for the intercept to occur.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question will come from Jeff Garrow with Stevens. Your line is open.
spk09: Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I want to ask about the series of behavioral health deals announced in the quarter. Seems like there's clear momentum in that vertical. So I was hoping you could help us think about your positioning in that space and the growth opportunity from here, as well as just in the individual releases. It seems like an interesting mix of in-person and virtual service, as well as an ability to grow with those clients over time. Thanks.
spk12: Yeah, so behavioral health is one of the specialties we've really focused on the last couple of years. Our virtual capabilities add to that substantially as across healthcare. Mental health and behavioral health have been delivered virtually during the pandemic, and that has persisted. So we have a technological advantage there. We also have done behavioral health for some time in our federally qualified health centers, and our community health centers where they integrate medical, dental, and behavioral. So it's a big advantage for us with those clients against all of our competitors. We've added in functionality. Last year you would have seen some organic additions to that solution set that we announced, and that's really resonated with the market. So the ability to have in-person virtual hybrid models to support the workflow of behavioral health and to bill for them, which they can be very complex, especially at the state level of how you bill Medicaid and others. Those are good for us.
spk09: Excellent. That's super helpful. And I want to ask one on the cost and operations side of things, some comments around the upgrade center of excellence and monitoring spent towards the end of FY24. I want to follow up and ask what that means in terms of the client upgrade cycle and also ultimately your ability to deliver speed and quality of client upgrades. Thanks.
spk12: Yeah, so the upgrade center of excellence is working on getting everyone to the – Cure-certified edition of our software. That, if you'll recall, needs to be done ideally by September 30th, so they have a full quarter to report without penalty. So we should be through the bulk of all the upgrades by the end of September, which is the second quarter of our fiscal 24. From there, we're going to take all those talented people and either do things like sell them back to clients as billable resources, to the extent our hosting business expands, put them in our hosting business. So we have a wealth of talent to redeploy other places in the organization that we're excited about. And so that will help us as we think about how do we transition this bulk of work into more value-added things for our clients, like driving outcomes for them.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question will come from Jalindra Singh with Truist Securities. Your line is open.
spk04: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. This is Eduardo on for Jalindra. Just to recycle on the macro, you guys have talked about, you know, challenging environment, opening up more opportunities for the company in hosting, EDI, and patient engagement. I guess what are your updated thoughts around, you know, staff shortages, claims processing times, and health care and team budget spend?
spk12: Eduardo, that's a good question because, you know, ironically not seeing an improvement in unemployment, right? It's still a very tight market despite the Fed's tightening. So I think from a macro level, people had expected that that would start to modify, and it hasn't. It works well for us in that we're adding to our RCM, the breadth of our RCM process to move things upstream. It also helps with our patient engagement solutions to be able to get patients to self-schedule and take that pressure off the frontline staff. We're seeing continued enthusiasm there. And on the EDI side, we're constantly working with our partners on how can we automate parts of this to make this an easier process. For example, it would be prior authorization is one of the things that we're adding into the solution set so that we don't have to do claims edits or claims resubmission because we've gotten the authorization up front. And any one of those three are things that clients are looking for as they work through staffing shortages and really how to become more productive with staff. In addition to things we've talked about before, like doing robotic process automation to automate our own processes to be more efficient on behalf of our clients to constantly think about how can we drive down the price of doing business, especially as they're seeing rising costs throughout their own labor pools.
spk04: That's helpful. You know, you guys recently launched Mirth Cloud Connect as an upgrade to Mirth Connect, which you guys talked about today. As that sits inside of the insights segment, just sort of how does that go into the 25% to 35% growth outlook as you're talking about getting to the low end in 2025? Just curious how you envision that contributing to that target.
spk12: That one I would say is a direct result of your last question. So we have clients who are running, you know, a lot of interfaces or using our solution to interface, you know, to run whole states as a health information exchange. or this is the one place we sell to hospitals, interoperability to hospitals. They may have connections to lots of offices, labs, et cetera. And it's just really difficult to find a skilled workforce to support these applications. And so if you look at Mars Cloud Connect, one of the first things we offer is we monitor and run these systems for them. So they can move their people to creating new interfaces rather than monitoring the existing ones. And if we help them create new, we can reuse the ones we've already used or the connections we've already made to make them more efficient at a price point that's hard to compete with. But at the same time, it's really the labor shortage that could be driving it. It's difficult to compete for these resources, and they can be more expensive.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question will come from Vishal Patel with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
spk03: Hi, this is Vishal on for just passing. Thanks for taking our questions. Uh, first I wanted to ask, how should we think about fiscal 25 in respect to the rural 40 measure at midpoint? I believe he's guided to 27.6% for fiscal 24. And during the rest of the day, I believe you mentioned during 30% by fiscal 25. Is that still a reasonable expectation? And if so, How should we get comfortable with that EBITDA margin expansion in light of the investments highlighted in the prepared remarks? Thanks.
spk08: Yeah, this is Jamie Arnold. And while we're not prepared right now to get guidance on 25 with that degree of specificity, I think our, you know, this year's performance plus what we've guided for 24, the 30% would certainly be within sort of the realm of our expectations. Got it. Got it.
spk03: That's helpful. And if I could ask, what was the contribution of TSI in the quarter? I'm sorry, could you ask that again? Yeah. What was the contribution of TSI in the quarter?
spk08: We're not going to break. What I would tell you on TSI is that it performed right in line with the guidance we had provided for this year. for the stub period, but we're not going to break it out as a separate line item. If it was outside the range of the guidance that we provided, we'd let you know.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question will come from George Hill with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
spk07: Yeah, good evening, guys, and thanks for taking the question. I guess, David, it seems like fiscal 24 is going to be a year where you guys get close to hitting the double-digit revenue growth. So maybe not with the operating leverage that you guys were looking for. I guess, can you talk about has anything changed with the growth algorithm longer term? And maybe how should we think about the breakdown of like share gains, new footprints versus like client wallet share gains, and kind of like how big or will you expect capital deployment to play? And I'm really thinking kind of like repo versus M&A and where you're seeing the best opportunity now given where the share price is.
spk12: Yeah, thanks, George. Good to hear you. The view of the growth is maintained, right? So we see 10% growth. We got there a year earlier than we said at Investor Day. We see that continuing through 25. We have also, and beyond, so not just in the next couple of years, but ongoing. We also, from a new business, existing business, have hit the numbers that we want to see from a sales bookings perspective of 25% of our bookings coming from new clients, even as we're increasing sales and having a record quarter last quarter from a sales side. And then on the question on M&A versus repurchase, we prefer M&A. So we prefer to find new solutions that our clients will love, and that's our preferred use of cash. But, you know, we have an outstanding authorization for repurchases if we don't have uses for that cash to return it to shareholders. But our preference is M&A, and we've said before, too, we're looking primarily at the insights business because we see so much opportunity there to round out our offerings as we go to markets.
spk07: Okay, and maybe just a quick follow-up on the M&A question. I guess maybe could you comment on the valuations that you're seeing in the market right now as you look around, given kind of like the market's had a pretty severe retrenchment, especially around what I guess what we would consider growth names, like, you know, VCs aren't funding like B rounds and C rounds for companies that are showing any type of financial distress. I mean, Darian, what do you think of shopping for assets?
spk12: Yeah, we think it's a great time to be a strategic because the leverage – leverage collateralized market is kind of, you know, difficult now, right? It's a lot harder to make something work at 11% to 15% than it was a few years ago at five.
spk11: That's good for us in that, you know, our cost of capital is below that. We are seeing the private markets obviously lag the public markets, right? The public markets correct every time there's an increase. but we're starting to see the private markets correct. We think the latter half of this year from the companies we talk to, their valuations will become attractive and we will be active. So it's nice to see the expectations come down. I think they're also coming down later this year as people start to run through their last round of funding from, you know, the latter half of last year or middle of next year. And there's no, you know, easy path for many of these companies to get debt financing. And so even the SVB, um, uh, you know, kind of meltdown that weekend. We called some of our targets on the Friday and said, look, we know you may not be able to make payroll on Monday. We're happy to help you make payroll because we've got hundreds of millions of cash and we can work out the terms of some of these things later. So I think it's a good time from a macro investment investment perspective for us from an NM&A perspective, and we'll be aggressive.
spk06: Thank you. Once again, that is Star 1 to ask a question. And at this time, there are no further questions in the queue, so I would like to turn the call back over to management for any additional or closing remarks.
spk11: Thank you all for attending the call and your continued interest in NextGen Healthcare. You had a great quarter and a great year. We look forward to more to come in fiscal year 24. This concludes our call.
spk06: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's call, and we appreciate your participation.
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