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spk05: Good morning. My name is Renz, and I'll be your operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Organigram Holdings, Inc.' 's third quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed in mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. We ask you to please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. You may recue if you have further questions. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and a replay will be available on Organigram's website. At this time, I would like to introduce Ms. Amy Schwalm, Vice President, Investor Relations.
spk01: Thank you, Rend. Joining me today are Organigram's Chief Financial Officer, Derek West, and our Chief Strategy Officer, Paolo De Luca. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's call will include estimates and other forward-looking information from which our actual results could differ. Please review the cautionary language in today's press release regarding various factors, assumptions and risks that could cause our actual results to differ. Furthermore, during this call, we will refer to certain non-IFRS financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted gross margin. These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS and our approach in calculating these measures may differ from that of other issuers and so may not be directly comparable. Please see today's earnings report for more information about these measures. I will now hand the call over to Pablo.
spk06: Thanks, Amy. Good morning and thank you for joining Derek and me today. We do not have our permanent CEO in place. as we are conducting this call and I will address that right up front in terms of what we can share with you at this point. That way, the questions and answers portion at the end of this call can be focused on other questions that you may have. Speaking on behalf of our board of directors, we know that it is a priority to get the right person in the role as soon as possible. A leading search firm has been hired and the committee responsible for the selection of a new CEO has been busy reviewing candidates from across the CPG sector in North America. They are now in the second stage of the interview process with a short list of candidates. In any event, the company is operating very well during this interim period with the management team and board working together more closely than ever to expedite decision-making. I would also like to point out that our chairman, Peter Amaral, is acting as the executive chair, and he brings tremendous experience being the longest serving board member of the company, as well as deep CPG experience through a series of senior executive roles, including at Molson's and Cara Foods. We feel very equipped as a management team with the key input and oversight from Peter and the rest of our board of directors. Many of the senior executives have a strong track record at the company. and have contributed to the success we are seeing from our revitalized product portfolio, which I will talk about more in a moment. In addition to some longstanding executives, we also announced two key new hires with deep experience in cannabis and CPG. Our SVP of Marketing and Communications, Megan McRae, as well as our VP of Innovation, Bornaz Lamelik. We also onboarded great confectionery management capabilities as part of our edibles and infusions acquisition in James Fletcher, who remains president of EIC. In addition to a better top line trend, we have seen cultivation ramp with the benefit of increased staffing, and critically, we have seen cultivation costs per grant continue to decline on the back of higher plant yields, as well as the realization of other cost efficiencies and improvements. We have our newly promoted vice president of operations, Natalie Baden, to thank for leading these efforts. Again, all of this to reinforce that we feel very good about managing the business through this interim period and continue to benefit from the long track record and expertise of Peter Amaral and the rest of the board. We feel even better about our prospects when we look at the strong outlook for the entire industry and with COVID restrictions being unwound nationwide. a strong seasonal backdrop, and the ongoing expansion of the retail store network in key markets like Ontario. Derek will go into more specifics on our outlook for our fiscal Q4. So just to sum up before I continue to discuss the quarter, we won't be answering any other questions on the CEO search on this call, but look forward to updating you as soon as we are able to. Now I will move along to the fiscal Q3 results that we released earlier this morning. I will talk a little about revenue and new product launches, as well as some of our strategic developments, and we'll leave Derek to go through detailed financials and our outlook for Q4. As we expected and directionally guided, and I say directionally as we do not provide specific revenue or earnings guidance, in our last quarter's disclosure, Q3 revenue improved from a challenged Q2, which we believe represents a clear inflection point for the company. As I mentioned, we have ramped up operations and staffing such that we were better able to fulfill demand in Q3. We believe Q3 revenue was still negatively impacted by relatively suppressed demand from some provincial boards, particularly in the most populous province of Ontario. Strict COVID-19 restrictions in Ontario meant less staffing to enable physical distance and retail stores being limited to 25% capacity for most of March. and then closed completely to all foot traffic for the balance of our fiscal quarter, which ended May 31st, 2021. However, we did not have the production disruptions related to COVID-19 cases that occurred in our Q2 quarter ending February 28th, which essentially shut down the Moncton facility temporarily on two occasions, sending larger groups of employees home to isolate. Our revitalized product portfolio is resonating with consumers, and this is reflected in revenue growth in Q3. We conduct ongoing consumer research and leverage detailed analysis of our consumer purchasing behaviors to help ensure our offerings are aligned with existing and expected evolutions in consumer preferences. Consumer trends have continued to emerge and coalesce, including ongoing growth in the large format value segment, a desire for higher THC, as well as a penchant for newness, including new genetic strains and novel products. Organigram began a product portfolio revitalization in mid-calendar 2020 to address these consumer trends and preferences. We have launched 84 new SKUs since July 2020, and up to 20 more SKUs are still to come in Q4 fiscal 2021. Dry flour and pre-rolls remain the first and second largest categories, respectively, in the Canadian adult use recreational market of all product form factors. And the company believes these categories will continue to dominate based on the sales history in mature legal markets in certain U.S. states, as well as regulatory restrictions on other form factors. For example, the 10 milligram per package THC limit in the edibles category. Cannabis consumers continue to want both high THC dried flower products and cultivar diversity as supported by available sales data. In the popular value segment, sales of Shred continue to impress almost tripling from last quarter and representing the fastest growing brand in the country. It has remained the number one most searched brand on the OCS website for the last eight consecutive months. There are a number of exciting developments I want to highlight when it comes to this highly demanded product. First, the product margin on Shred is improving with a pivoting commercial strategy and a declining cost structure as our yields and efficiencies are improving with increased scale. Second, we have had the benefit of being able to leverage Shred's extremely strong brand equity to introduce new better margin products like Shred's jar of joints, a convenient jar of 14 half-gram pre-rolls of Shreds Tropic Thunder. And we have more to come, so stay tuned. We will obviously provide more details as these products are rolled out. Late in Q3, Organi-Gram officially announced the launch of Big Bagel Buds, indoor-grown, strain-specific, dried flower in a 28-gram value format. The new Big Bagel Buds lineup includes existing cultivars, such as the company's industry-leading Ultra Sour, otherwise known as Limelight in our Edison brand, along with new cultivars and a rotation of one-time strain offers. Big Bag of Buds contains a minimum of 17% THC, and one-time offer or OTOs will range in strain selections, including Grapefruit GG4, Original Blue, and Lemon Tree strains. Big Bag of Buds doubled its sales in Q3 from Q2, and we see this excellent trend continuing into Q4. As we said last quarter, we are focused on growing our sales mix into our higher margin dried flower brands. We have made ongoing investments in genetics to support the Edison brand promise of innovation and new and exciting products. We plan to keep the Edison brand revitalized over time with new streams as well as high potency. As you have heard other licensed producers lament, it is not easy to grow new strains at scale with both high THC and balancing that with high plant-based. But we are increasingly encouraged by our progress and recent results. In Q2 fiscal 2021, the company launched three new Edison Cannabis Co. Indica strains, which included high-potency Black Cherry Punch and Ice Cream Cake, or ITC, as well as Sluritane. Black Cherry Punch joins Limelight as the top seller of their respective strains amongst other LPs with similar strains in market. In late April 2021, the company announced the launch of another two new high-potency Edison dried flower strains, GMO Cookies and MAC-1, which have a THC range of 20% to 26% and are available in either a 3.5-gram format or a package of 3.5-gram pre-rolls. Both strains feature a distinct phenotypic profile, flavor, and aroma as a result of being grown in one of Organigram's strain-specific microclimates. We expect to introduce more new cultivars under the Edison brand in the near term. In late March, the company introduced another high-margin dry flower brand to the market called Indy, one of Canada's only cannabis brands dedicated exclusively to indica cultivars. Skyway Kush was the first and only stream in the company's indie portfolio, offering THC in the range of 20% to 23% until June, when we launched two new indie streams in 3.5 gram formats. Biscotti Gelato with a THC range of 20% to 26%, and Gelato No. 33 with a THC range of 17% to 23%. Pre-rolls are the second largest category in adult use recreational market and the fastest growing on a quarterly basis this year at about 33% in calendar Q2 over Q1. In late March of this year, we introduced the new Edison strains of Black Cherry Punch, ICC, and Slurcane in a package of three half gram pre-rolls produced with our new pre-roll machine. This machine was commissioned in March and is now producing an average of about 40 pre-rolls per minute. have ordered another machine expected to be delivered to commission in early Q1 fiscal 22 as pre-rolled demand hasn't shown any signs of slowing down. Derivative product sales were lower in Q3 than Q2, but we look forward to gaining sales traction in the largest derivative product category, Bates, with the launch of two new Bate products with higher THC concentrations. These include an Edison plus feather-disposable vape pen at a very competitive price point, as well as a new 1-gram Edison cartridge for the 510 vaporizer. Both products are based on 9-Lite, our top-selling flower strain, and the country's best-selling ultra-sour. And we expect our new soft-chooser gummies to be available in certain retail stores in early August. Today in Canada, edibles are one of the fastest-growing segments of derivative products, and the largest product subcategory within edibles is Gunny's. With our acquisition of Winnipeg-based Edibles and Infusions Corporation, or EIC for short, we enter this market backed by leadership with proven confectionery experience and a track record of delivery to some of the world's biggest retailers, including Costco and Walmart. We now have two facilities capable of R&D, product development, and large-scale manufacturing capabilities to deliver derivative products, our flagship facility in Moncton and our derivatives-dedicated EIC facility in Winnipeg, both designed and built with EU GMP specification standards in mind. While flower and related products still account for more than 70% of the overall Canadian market, derivative sales growths growth is outpacing the overall market as new product formats are launched and consumer preferences evolve. For example, edibles currently represent about 4% of the Canadian market compared to 12 to 15% in more mature U.S. markets. Lastly, we have a very innovative derivative product launch still to come in Q4 fiscal 2021. I do not want to give away any more details until we are ready to launch, except to say our team is very excited about the potential of this product. In addition to the acquisition of EIC, we also announced the collaboration with and strategic investment from VAT in March. I won't reiterate all the details of the transaction as we covered it in great detail last quarter. However, by way of update, we were pleased to announce the successful launch of the Center of Excellence or COE at our Moncton facility as outlined in the PDC agreement with VAT. The COE has been established to focus on developing the next generation of cannabis products with initial focus on CBD. As the company and BHC refine plans and ramp up on execution for the COE, a number of initial skill positions have been created, including innovation-focused roles such as scientists and product developers, and over time, the employee count is expected to increase as new projects and work streams are brought online. The COE is governed and supervised by a steering committee consisting of an equal number of senior members of each of Organigram and VAT. Under the terms of the PDC agreement, both Organigram and VAT have access to certain of each other's intellectual property and, subject to certain limitations, have the right to independently and globally commercialize the products, technologies, and IP created pursuant to the PDC agreement. Approximately $31 million of VAT's $221 million investment in Organigram has been reserved for Organigram's portion of its funding obligations under the initially mutually agreed upon three-year budget. Costs relating to the COE are being funded equally by Organigram and BAP. From a governance perspective, there is a steering committee to supervise and govern the COE activities with an equal number of senior members from both companies. And we also anticipate benefiting from two BAP nominees to Organigram's board of directors. At closing of the transaction, we welcome Mr. Giant Hepburn to our board and the other nominees expected to be appointed in the near term. Not only is this collaboration with VAT going to accelerate and strengthen our research and product development activities, it is also anticipated to be instrumental in establishing the foundation for our U.S. and international strategy. As part of the transaction, VAT invested approximately $221 million in us for a 19.9% equity interest, With the significant capital injection, Organigram is well-positioned to expand into the U.S. and other international markets at the right time and subject to applicable law. I will now turn the call over to CFO Derek Lush.
spk04: Thanks, Paulo. I will start with our strong financial position. As we announced last quarter, we have a balance sheet free of any significant debt after repaying our entire term loan balance of $58.5 million. This elimination of our debt amounts to about $2.7 million in annual interest savings. In terms of liquidity, including $31 million in restricted funds, the company currently has $220 million in cash and short-term investments. We have made the decision to complete the Phase 4c expansion of our multi-facility for more production capacity in order to meet the longer-term forecasted demand for our products. We are also making changes to our growing and harvesting methodologies as well as design improvements to the Moncton campus that are expected to result in higher quality flower and reduce production costs. The budget amount for Phase 4C and this work is estimated to be 38 million and anticipated to be incurred starting in fiscal Q4 2021 with completion targeted during fiscal 2023. We have sufficient cash and short-term investments to support these expenditures and the corresponding growth to our working capital assets while still maintaining sufficient liquidity and financial flexibility. As you may have noted, we did file a preliminary base shell perspective just recently, which allows us to move quickly to access even more capital to pursue attractive growth opportunities should they arise. Q3 2021 net cash used in operating activities of $10.8 million compared to $0.3 million provided by operating activities in the same prior year period. The change was largely due to the increase in working capital assets as the company ramped up cultivation activities during the current quarter. Turning to our earning results for Q3. Gross revenue grew 51% from Q2 2021 to 31% from the same period in fiscal 2020 to $29.1 million. The net revenue grew 39% from Q2 and 13% from the same prior year period respectively to $20.3 million. The revenue growth was primarily due to higher adult use net revenue, which grew 40% from Q2 and 10% from the same period in 2020 and higher wholesale revenue, which are sales to other licensed producers, during Q3 of this year. Cost of sales decreased 47% to $23.4 million from Q3 of 2020, primarily due to almost $30 million in inventory of write-offs reported in Q3 of last year, and provisions as well as charges related to reduced workforce due to COVID-19, which were all incurred in the prior year period. The charge related to unabsorbed fixed overhead and included in cost of sales continues to decline again sequentially this quarter as we expected and indicated in our Q2 2021 disclosures. It is anticipated to decline further in Q4 as we continue to ramp operations. We harvested 8,379 kilos of flour during Q3 compared to 4,741 kilos of flour in Q3 of the prior year. The increase from the comparative period was primarily related to increased cultivation, planting and staffing in Q3 of this year to meet the increased demand for many of the new products as part of the product portfolio revitalization, as well as the increase in industry demand on the back of the ongoing accelerated retail store build down, particularly in Ontario. We were using approximately 80% of our grow rooms in Q3 fiscal 2021, and as of the date of our MDA, we were using 85% of our grow rooms. Once complete, Phase 4C increased our annual capacity for the production of flour from 38,000 kilos to approximately 65,000 kilos. The total capacity of the company's Moncton campus facility will continue to fluctuate as the company further refined its growing methods and room utilization. IFRS gross margin increased to a positive $2.1 million from a negative $15 million in Q3 of 2020. largely due to lower cost of sales as I just described, as well as net non-cash positive fair value changes to biological assets and inventory sold in Q3 of 21 versus negative changes in the prior year comparison period. Adjusted gross margin was a negative 0.7 million in Q3 of 21 as compared to a positive 4.1 million in the same prior year period, largely as a result of the value segment offerings, comprising a larger proportion of total revenues in Q3 of 2021, combined with prior period higher cultivation costs making up the current period's cost of sales. SG&A, excluding non-cash share-based compensation, increased to $13.6 million from $10.3 million in Q3 of 2020, largely due to increased staffing and office costs related to the establishment of the Organic Grand Bath Centre of Excellence and the EIC acquisition, higher cultivation-related research and development costs, as well as higher audit fees in connection with the company's regulatory requirement to obtain an integrated audit opinion for the first time for fiscal 2021 financial statements. Adjusted EBITDA increased to a negative $10.2 million from a negative $2.1 million in Q3 2020, largely due to lower adjusted gross margins in Q3 2021 and due to some higher general and administrative costs, as I just described. The net loss in Q3 of 2021 was reduced from Q3 2020 loss of $90 million to $4 million. The improvement in earnings was as a result of higher IFRS gross margin during the current quarter, combined with the impairment charged to the property, plant and equipment recorded in the prior year period. I will wrap up with our outlook for Q4 fiscal 21. Just a reminder, we won't be reporting on this Q4 quarter until later in November in accordance with the filing deadlines for financial year ends. First, we are very positive on the outlook for industry growth. According to high prior data, Canada-wide recreational retail sales are expected to total $309 million in June, which is a slight decline from the high-fired estimate of nearly $322 million in May, and flat with $310 million in April, which is the most recent available data from Statistics Canada. Based on the estimates available from Highfire, the second quarter of calendar 2021 was a record for the Canadian cannabis market with $940 million in total REC retail sales and implied sequential quarterly growth of 12%. This occurred despite the strict COVID-19 restrictions in place. There are a few factors creating tailwinds for further industry growth. First, the legalization in October of 2019 of many derivative product categories has attracted consumers who were not interested in smoking or vaporizing dried flour, including pre-rolls. New categories such as vape pens, edibles, which is the soft chews and chocolates, beverages, and other ingestible products have significantly expanded the addressable market. Second, retail stores continue to open with Ontario driving the growth and targeting 1,000 stores opening in the province by the end of the summer. Since July, the store count in the provinces grew by 131% to 2,229 stores currently, driven by Ontario growing 755% to 872 stores. And of course, these stores in many provinces have been closed to foot traffic for much of 2021 and limited to delivering in some cases click and collect. We know that the cannabis consumer wants to be able to go into stores to buy their product. As such, we should see a boost in sales as these stores have recently been permitted to reopen to put traffic. Several of the new stores authorized opening for the first time ever. Third, the industry as a whole has made a constant concerted effort to convert consumers from illicit to legal consumption. The gap between Canada's legal and illicit cannabis market continues to widen. The latest Assisted Canada data suggests household spending on adult-use cannabis products on regular channels grew to $918 million in the final quarter of 2020, or $204 million more than the estimated amount spent on illicit cannabis in the same period. Spending on legal, recreational cannabis overtook illegal transactions for the first time in the third quarter of 2020 when regulated expenditures outpaced approximate illicit sales by only $59 million. The legal market benefited from the growing retail options in calendar 2020. Regulated sales also benefited from a wider breadth of consistent inventory and improved selection of products. In February of 2021, the province of British Columbia tested illicit cannabis and found 24 distinct pesticides and 20 samples of dried flower. The samples went to a federally licensed lab for testing and results showed that along with the 24 unapproved pesticides, there were high levels of bacteria, fungi, and heavy metals in many of the samples. These samples were subjected to the same full panel analysis to detect chemical and microbial contaminants as licensed cannabis producers are required to use. We believe the more that knowledge like this becomes better known amongst consumers, the more we'll see cannabis consumers shift to the legal market. Against this backdrop of strong industry growth, particularly as COVID-19 restrictions are being removed nationwide in a strong seasonal period, We expect to generate higher sequential revenue in Q4 fiscal 21 as compared to Q3. We have strong demand for our revitalized product portfolio and with increased cultivation and more staffing, we are better equipped to fulfill that demand. Revenues to date and purchase orders from CECOM customers support our expectation for higher revenue in Q4. Beyond Q4, we expect to resume shipments to CanDoc in Israel in Q1 of fiscal 22. We received a good agricultural practice certification by the Control Union Medical Canada Standard to comply with Israel's updated standards for imported cannabis in early Q4. However, the timing of shipment is contingent upon the regulatory approval from Health Canada, including obtaining an export permit. We also expect to see a sequential improvement in adjusted gross margins in Q4 fiscal 21, largely due to lower product cultivation costs, as well as other economies of scale as we continue to ramp up cultivation and realize the benefit of ongoing cost efficiency improvements. The overall level of Q4 fiscal 21 adjusted gross margins versus Q3s will also be dependent on other factors, including but not limited to product category and brand sales mix. Although the sequential improvement to adjusted growth margins is anticipated to be fairly marginal in Q4 of fiscal 21, the company has identified a number of opportunities which it believes have the potential to further improve adjusted growth margins over time. We expect to gain economies of scale and efficiencies as we continue to scale up cultivation. As I noted earlier, we plan to make changes to our growing and harvesting methodology that should not only enhance the quality of our flower, but also reduce production costs over time. The recent launches of newer higher-margin dried flower strains under Edison and Indy brands with more expected to come have the potential to positively impact gross margin as these products gain traction in the market and comprise a greater proportion of the company's overall revenue. International sales have historically attracted higher margins and are expected to represent a greater proportion of revenue once we resume shipments to CanDoc. Further, we continue to launch more multi-pack pre-rolls and one-gram V8 cartridges, and these higher volume SKUs generally attract higher margins. The company continues to invest in automation to drive cost efficiencies and reduce dependence on manual labor. Lastly, Q4 fiscal 2001 STMA is expected to be higher than Q3, primarily due to the R&D work at the Centre of Excellence, and increase selling and marketing expenses as stores reopen to put traffic and the retail network expands. In closing, we feel very confident about our prospects and remain focused on operational execution to drive top-line growth and just as importantly to drive cost reduction and operational efficiencies. At the same time, we are investing in innovation and research and product development, which we believe is critical to gain and sustain a long-term competitive advantage in the industry. So that concludes the prepared remarks. Operator, if you could go ahead and open up the line for questions. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. We have our first question from the line of David. Okay, the call from ADB Capital Markets. Your lines are open.
spk03: Hi, good morning. Congratulations on the quarter. Thanks for taking my questions here. I want to start thinking your prepared remarks. You mentioned revenue mix, and you look at margins being increased in Q4 as a result of product category or dependent upon product category and sales mix. I just want to know from Organigram's perspective, now with dispensaries opening, many of the COVID restrictions lifting, to what extent do you view this as a tailwind for you and the industry as a whole, especially when it comes to the derivative products or 2.0 product offerings? Just given that we know that many consumers require that in-store or dispensary in-face experience to actually educate a lot of their decisions with these products. And with that said, are you able to comment at all about what you potentially think that a revenue mix could look like from a 1.0 versus 2.0 product category split? Thanks.
spk06: Hey, Derek. Sorry, can you hear me okay?
spk03: Yeah, loud and clear.
spk06: Perfect. Thanks for the question. It's a great question. First of all, yes, we do view everything that's happening in terms of the stores, the availability of new stores opening. and also in-store foot traffic, and also just the seasonality where we are in kind of the summer, the whole social experience and so forth, we do view that as a tailwind. I think your point on derivative products is bang on. Some of those products require a bit more hand-holding maybe from bud tenders. I was in a store in Toronto just last week, walked in, and I was surprised. I was really taken aback about how much a bud tender can influence a consumer's purchase decision. The person in question walks into the store, kind of middle-aged man, and the bud tender really had a strong influence in terms of, in this particular instance, he was looking to buy an edible and really helped him navigate to a particular brand and so forth. So when I think of derivative products, when I think of our derivative products in particular, Our powder beverage, which I think is a relatively novel and innovative product, that will certainly do better in our view in a situation where someone walks into the store and can be navigated by a bartender to a different type of beverage, maybe something that's not as heavy to carry around, something that they could put in their purse or their back pocket now that they're able to be more social under better conditions. in August. And I think chocolate is also another great opportunity, which is more geared to the fall and winter seasons. So I definitely think that derivatives will be a big beneficiary of in-person store traffic and the expansion of retail stores. Our derivative portfolio in aggregate has probably under indexed um you know the canadian market in the last year that is also um by design in our part because you know with the restrictions of covid and um you know the limitations that we experienced there for a while in terms of less staffing we thought it was prudent pivots to hire uh bigger categories such as flower and pre-roll uh so we've over indexed there even even be in the prepared comments. But I think we'll definitely be shifting more to derivatives going forward and starting with Q4 as well. You'll see some product launches in the next month to two months that we're excited about. And yeah, Derek, do you want to add anything on the margins or the revenue mix?
spk04: Yeah, I would say that as it relates to we don't know disclose any um exact margins by any of our product categories and brands but i would say that um it's it's a mix on uh on all of it in terms of um uh pointed product category uh there is various uh margins depending on the format and and the brand i would say that we will benefit over time with the economies of scales that we expect to get as we're lowering the cost per unit, the cost per gram, which positively impacts all of our product categories, including derivatives, although not as direct and one-to-one as it will with the flour categories. And so we've essentially doubled the production volume in Q3 compared to Q1. And where a large portion of our costs are fixed, we are benefiting significantly over the last quarter with regards to a lower cost per gram. And we'll start to see that show up. Most of that benefit ends up into our inventory, into what's sold. And we'll start to see that as we look forward to a certain extent and as we continue to move to higher production levels. There will always be a bit of a timing, and it's not always going to be exact, but definitely with the higher production levels we're running at along with other efficiencies and operational improvements that we're making and getting improved yields at the facility, there's positive wins at our back now as it relates to our cost per gram, and that will help margins as we look forward for all the categories.
spk03: Okay, thanks, Paolo and Derek. Very helpful. Last question for me, and then I'll hop back in the queue. I know you mentioned your prepared remarks, the Center of Excellence associated with the British American Tobacco Company. Beyond what you've said in your prepared remarks, is there any color you can give us for what type of products you expect to hit the market and potential timing here? You know, for example, are these going to be existing products that you already have that you're looking to tweak? like chocolates or beverages, or are these going to be new product offerings altogether? Thank you and congrats on the quarter again.
spk06: Thanks, David. Yeah, look, on the BAT, there's not a ton that we can really say because, you know, we just launched it. I can tell you that we're extremely happy with it. the people that are involved in the COE, the hirings that we've made, the launch has gone very well to date, and the teams within that group are working on product plans and work plans and so forth. I think the best thing to do in terms of to kind of talk about where this is heading is uh for sure the products will be in you know derivative type of style products um the focus really is on um you know product innovation and also research understanding safety understanding um the efficacy of the products uh and that will be the foundation uh to which these derivative products will be uh developed so the idea here is to really develop i.d i.t and product products that can transcend borders. So once we've developed them and we have IT supporting them and we've got a body of research and testing to support how these products work, that we can establish them as products in markets around the world subject to regulations. And we think that the work that we're going to do is going to be important regardless of which market you go into. Regulators and public health officials are going to be first and foremost concerned product claims is going to be based off of that. So derivative products, safety and efficacy, supported by research, supported by science, and with a focus in terms of cannabinoids primarily on CBD. In terms of timing, I think we should be very realistic about expectations. There's certainly nothing that we're expecting to bring to market in the next kind of 12 months. Beyond that, it'll be subject to which product and how far we are along in progress. And in terms of whether they will be innovations on existing products that we have or completely new products, the answer to that is both. Again, subject to the work streams and the product lines that our teams put together, which we're still in the relatively early stages of that. But really excited. I think that the people on both sides have been great. We've been collaborating great. And I think that's just going to get a lot better when we're able to kind of travel more freely and so forth. And I think with COVID kind of hopefully on the downslope, these collaborations will just get amplified going forward. forward and we're excited about everything that we've done today.
spk03: Thanks very much. Congrats on the quarter. I'll pass it along.
spk05: Thank you. The next one is from Andrew from Stiefel GMP. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe we could just discuss profitability a little bit You know, you had a big revenue bump this quarter sequentially, but it seems like on a reported adjusted gross margin basis, it was relatively stable. Cognizant that you still have some unabsorbed fixed costs in that and you're continuing to scale. So, you know, if your product mix remains stable, could you give us a sense of what kind of revenue level we would need to see in order for you to return to kind of pre-COVID gross margin levels or normalized gross margin?
spk04: Yeah. I'm not sure I'm going to do a projection on the forward on a break-even analysis on the margin just because we are offering a large number of product categories and different brands. There's always newness in the market. Every quarter we have a number of launches that are coming up and that's happened every quarter. And that does change, I guess, the mix in terms of the product. And there's been pricing compression in the market. We do feel that most of that has been flowed through. I would say that the cost reduction on the flour over the last two quarters have been significant. Most of it does show up in the inventory balances, some of which did help the current period's cost of sales, but not to the extent that we would see on an ongoing basis. But there was a larger volume of sales in the current quarter with value formats that did contribute to the increase to the revenue in this period. And so the margin did not move up as much as we would have otherwise targeted, but we would think that with the continued efficiency from both changes in processes that are BPP of operations as well as the facility, along with just the natural gains that we're going to achieve through spreading up the cost of the overhead facility and the removal of the drag for this unabsorbed fixed charge that you were referring to, which I think was 1.7 million in the quarter. So I think the culmination of all those will lead to if the volume is the same and the mix is the same, we are going to have mathematically a better margin just because we'd be flowing through a lower COMS number. That would just be the mathematical outcome. But we're targeting revenue growth to continue. And over time, we do believe that we will achieve higher margins, but it's just not something that is automatic and happens just in one quarter. But we would expect to see improved margins for all product categories, again, because of lower costs. And there's just a fair number of initiatives and we are achieving much better. It's not just a matter of applying the cost to more production volumes. We are getting better yield through various process changes that have been implemented. And so we will start to see the benefit of that as we move forward. And, of course, having the sales fulfillment and having the higher sales dollars will help as well on the margin. And it does have our attention, and we're having continuous meetings on it on how we can best improve all the profitability metrics, but it does start with our margin, no question.
spk07: Okay, thank you for that, Collar. And maybe just switching gears, Health Canada is expected to start the review of regulations this fall. Just curious if you have any thoughts around that. More specifically, perhaps on CBD and how that plays into the BAT partnerships.
spk06: Yeah, I can take that question. Look, we're awaiting that review period as well. You know, we have a view that longer term we think CBD will hopefully be, you know, available just beyond just traditional retail stores, but we don't have any inside knowledge on that and can't really offer a firm opinion one way or the other. But, you know, just we think over time, Over time, that will likely happen. I think the CBD market obviously is a market that has a lot of opportunity just based on what we've seen in other jurisdictions as well. And the only thing I can offer as it relates to BET is that we've signaled through formal communication that that is the cannabinoid. CBD is a cannabinoid with a which will represent a primary focus to start with. So, you know, we think that's obviously a bigger adjustable market than psychoactive products. So we will obviously make that a priority, both organically and independently in Australia.
spk04: Okay, thank you. I was just going to add to that, that we expect the three-year review to result in some incremental changes to regulation, and some of which may be positive to the industry, but we are focused on competing in the playing field that exists now, and we don't predicate our success on the prospect of a favourable regulatory change, but obviously there will be a certain level of change, and then we'll be ready and agile to make a move to take advantage of those changes.
spk07: Okay. Do you have any view on what changes might occur? No. Okay. Thank you for taking my question.
spk05: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Tammy Chen. The lines are open.
spk00: Thanks. Morning. First question I had is on the thinking behind the decision to complete the Phase 4 expansion, I noticed another one of your competitors recently brought on a lot of new capacity on their end. So I just wanted to dig into that a bit further. You talked about wanting to meet longer-term forecasted demand, but as far as I think we can see, at least in the earlier part of this year, provinces were still rationalizing SKUs. Looks like there have been some share losses among the bigger LPs, apparently to some craft growers. So I just wanted to understand, you know, what specifically are you seeing that prompted the decision to finish phase four? Is it discussions with provinces going forward? Or is it that you're just getting more bullish on more Ontario stores? Just wanted to dig into that a bit more. Thank you.
spk06: Hey Tammy, it's Paolo. Great question, and I have a few comments to make on that. So number one, I think we're bullish on storage. We're bullish on growth. We're also bullish on Organigram. All the publicly available information, including from HiFire, will point to our market share is increasing, and we're not able to even produce what we need to meet demand now. So that's part of the decision. specific situation at Organigram requires us to produce more flour. We also have as part of the investment initiatives to improve our THC and to improve our efficiency. So when we did the analysis, all the signs pointed to that this was the right decision to make and that we needed to do this to grow our business. In the context of the macro environment, I would just also mention that When you look at the way the industry has unfolded in the past few years, it never made sense for all of the facilities, all of the production facilities that were built to be put online. And we knew that over time, the best facilities, and when I say best, I'm talking about either lowest cost of cultivation or highest quality product or a combination thereof, would survive over the long term. And we've seen some of the larger players shutter some of their production facilities because it's either inefficient or cannot produce the right quality flower. and also in M&A situations, we've seen companies post-M&A, again, shutter facilities. So what's happening now is the best producers in terms of being able to produce at a lower cost or higher THC or combination thereof, and we think we're certainly in that category, are going to survive and are going to be the ones responsible for providing the cultivation in Canada. So we think that we're needed as a cultivator in Canada, and we need it just for even our own demand. And we are very bullish on Canada as a whole. I think the market still has a lot of room to grow. We hope to see that growth now that apparel is opening in stores and stores are open for foot traffic. And, you know, when I look at markets like more mature markets in the U.S., like Colorado, which did, you know, less than 6 million people. If Canada follows a trajectory of even a fraction of that, we're going to need that cultivation. So again, for us, there's demand on the table that we need to satisfy. There's efficiencies that we need to go after. And there's THC improvements that we still think we can make. And that's what's driving the decision to make that investment and to finish 4C.
spk00: Got it. Okay, that's very helpful. That was it for me. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Adam Buckham from Scotiabank. Good morning.
spk04: Thanks for taking my questions. So maybe a question on the back of Tammy's there. So you talked about your capacity and how it's grown throughout the last two quarters.
spk02: Are you able to give us an idea of what your fill rate is on POs as of Q3 versus, you know, your prior quarters?
spk06: I don't know, Derek, if you have those numbers handy. I don't have the exact numbers, but I can tell you directly speaking that it's gone a lot better. And in particular, with the largest province, Ontario, we have, I think... I think most recently we filled, I think, something like 99% of our POs that were actually cut on some of our bigger SKUs. So a lot of credit to be given to our operations department and Natalie in particular. they've gotten a lot better at fulfilling POs, and I think our sales and operations planning process has gotten way better. We're really dialing that in, and I think that's going to help us on our efficiencies and also not missing on sales opportunities. So I can't give you exact numbers for the whole company at this point, but I can tell you it's gotten significantly better. We're very pleased. and i think that gives us a lot of confidence going forward in terms of meeting our our purchase order obligations okay great thanks um so second question to me i was wondering if we could get an idea you know you guys have pretty strong sales growth in the flower category right like how much of that velocity from a skew perspective came from larger format versus smaller format products
spk04: And then, I guess, secondly, how much of that, if you can give us an idea for the newer strains versus some of the more, I guess, legacy products.
spk06: Yeah, I can tell you that we've been rationalizing our SKUs to make sure that we're focusing on higher velocity SKUs. And right now we're firing on all cylinders. Our three big brands that I think are worth mentioning, Shred, Edison, and Big Bag of Buds. they're all moving well you know big bag of bunch is obviously a large format skew um shred is also our jar of joints is doing extremely well uh so we're very pleased with um with our velocity uh in the on the flower and pre-rolls in particular there's probably a bit more work to do in the derivative portfolio but that's going to be revitalized in the next month or two and you'll see that um uh with new skews coming to market uh so we're really excited i think that the biggest um you know kind of uh limitation we've had is just the availability of flour, which again speaks to our commitment to doubling down, or not doubling, but increasing our capacity and finishing off Base 4C, which is already substantially complete. Okay, great. Thanks.
spk05: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rupesh Arik from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
spk02: Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. So, Paul, I just have a question just on the competitive backdrop out there. So, clearly, we've seen a lot of consolidation space really the past few months. So, just curious, you know, how you feel about Organigram's position just given some of the developments out there? And then where does consolidation or, you know, M&A, where is that a focus going forward for Organigram?
spk06: Yeah, look, I think when you look at the decision tree between buying market share and being extremely dilutive doing that, which I think has been a trend that some of our peers have demonstrated in the past, versus taking that market share with our own internal capabilities and, you know, like even what we announced today in terms of our commitment to finishing 4C and some process improvements, the math definitely works in terms of build it yourself and expand. And we have the confidence to do that now because our forecasting and our planning and our brands, just our Edison brand and our Shred brand are so strong. There's so much brand equity there that we have the confidence to do that ourselves. So I think we're not going to say no to M&A. We've looked at A lot of companies, none of them have made sense from a risk reward perspective. I think if we are going to do something in the M&A space, it's going to be much more targeted to either a product category or a segment that maybe we need a little boost in or to just go a little faster on. But I think we're really excited about the market share we've captured the last couple of months. And we think there's actually quite a bit of runway on that as well. So our focus really is on what's within our control, which is our two facilities now, one in Moncton and one in Winnipeg. And we still have a lot of optimization to do there. And we think, like I said, I'm answering Tammy's question. Our facility is going to be one of the winners that survives in Canada. It's a crown jewel of ours. And I think that's something that others don't have. And we're going to leverage that as much as possible before trying to buy market share with just with M&A, because I think that that's not a winning proposition for shareholders.
spk02: Okay, great. Thank you. I'll pass it along.
spk05: Thank you. We have our last question from the line of John Zambaro from TIBC. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you. Good morning. I'd like to better understand the strategy when it comes to how OrganiGran gets to improve margins.
spk06: And I ask that with the backdrop of we've all seen the numbers on Shred. I think we can all agree it's pretty remarkable growth, but it's one of the largest or top-selling brands in Canada already. But that doesn't necessarily result in positive margins. So I wonder, does this need to get to an even higher level of sales to become a positive margin contributor? Or should we think about it as that is probably not going to be the primary driver of margin expansion and that margin expansion will come from the other categories that you're focused on? john that's a great question look i think i think to answer that question what i would say is shred will benefit from increased volume for sure shred will also benefit from lower cost of cultivation which we're already demonstrating shred will also benefit from line extensions um you know jar of joints is a good example of that that's a that's a that's a better margin product example for us than uh the seven grand poaches And we think we can take the brand extension to other products as well. The brand equity that Shred has is remarkable. I mean, it's a pleasant surprise for us. And along with Edison, I think we've got two real winners to build upon. And, you know, getting brand equity in cannabis has been a hard proposition for a bunch of reasons, structural, including regulatory and so forth. So like can advertise and all that other stuff. So I would say, look, we want to obviously shift as much as possible to higher margin brands. That is happening already, I think, with our new Edison streams. And I think that investment that we made in our facility to bring the THC up will allow us to do that. But we're keeping a close eye on Shred and Shred. Trust me, it's a big topic of discussion internally, and we have a plan to take it to a better margin place. And I would just be patient and watch us roll that out in the next couple of quarters. But I think, you know, line extensions would be one answer. Efficiencies on just cost of cultivation and then just general efficiencies in terms of the way we operate. I think we're going to get there very soon. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you. And then the second question, as far as the two parts, they're both related to margin, though. First, are there other international markets that you're potentially going to sell into over the next couple of quarters? And then second, in Canada, how would you characterize where we're at in terms of price compression on the producer side? Is there still room for this to fall forward in your opinion in the next few quarters? Yeah, on international, I think we're signaling that we're probably going to restart international sales in our fiscal Q1 of next year. International, while we would like to make it a bigger part of our business, we still have a lot of opportunities to deal with in Canada here, and we want to make sure that we're capturing all that demand. But longer term, I think it's part of our strategy. We do have to figure out a way to get more international sales, and hopefully we'll have more news on that again as the by the time the next quarter rolls around. On price compression, look, that's a hard one to answer that requires a forecast of supply and demand. It's hard to actually get good transparency on what the other producers are producing in terms of KGs. And again, I think I made the comment earlier on the M&A question is we think that there's going to be continued rationalization of cultivation facilities. Obviously, as that cultivation comes offline, that will, you know, the supply will hopefully start to read the side of the equation will start to balance a bit better. On the demand side, though, we're seeing growth. Certainly the proliferation of stores in Ontario is going to drive a lot of that. And so it's certainly slowed down, if nothing else. So that's probably a sign that it's bottoming. And I think the margins just become impossible at a certain point for So I think rationality will prevail. And the one thing I am encouraged about with M&A is that people will be a bit more rational. I think some of the companies that have done that are going to have to look really closely in the mirror to see an THC to the right level or a cost of production is too high, that'll get rationalized. And I think that's going to help the overall supply demand equation. But on our side, we're We're committed to making money at these prices because we have to. It's within our control to get more efficient, and that's what we're driving to. And, again, on the THC side, we've seen our THC climb, but there's still more work to do there, and I think that's the way we're going to deal with it on our end, just making sure that we maximize our THC and keep our costs as low as possible. Understood. Thank you very much.
spk05: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.
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