OptimizeRx Corporation

Q4 2021 Earnings Conference Call

2/24/2022

spk00: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining OptimizeRx's fourth quarter fiscal 2021 earnings discussion. With us today is the Chief Executive Officer of OptimizeRx, William Fabo. He is joined by Company Chief Financial Officer, Ed Stelmach, Chief Commercial Officer, Stephen Silvestro, Executive Vice President of Finance and Accounting, Doug Baker, General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer, Marion Odins-Ford, and Senior Vice President of Corporate Finance, Andrew DeSilva. At the conclusion of today's earnings call, I will provide some important cautions regarding the forward-looking statements made by management during today's call. I would like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded and will be made available for replay by webcast only. Instructions are included in today's press release in the investor section of the company's website. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to OptimizeRx CEO, William Faber. Sir, please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you, Operator. Hi, everyone. I want to begin by thanking all of you for joining us today. While the last 12 months have been an exciting period of operational and commercial growth for OptimizeRx, we're even more excited for the year ahead as we move forward with continued momentum as a company. The major investments we've made over the last year have centered around setting up the organization for future scalable growth. We have completed a strategic build-out of Optimizer X's leadership team. On the solutions and digital enablement front, we launched several AI and data-centric solutions, expanding our strategic capabilities, positioning us well to focus more on the key markets, including specialty medications. And lastly, we made huge progress in building out additional reach to doctors and patients. In essence, we have invested in our three primary growth drivers to continue cultivating or organic growth trajectory. To illustrate this point and how we build customer stickiness as a technology partner to life sciences, earlier this week we announced the launch of a large-scale therapy initiation program with a top 10 pharma client. The program accelerates patients' access to a new specialty drug that can reduce inflammation for a chronic condition and significantly improve the quality of life for this previously underserved patient population. The pharma client is leveraging OptimizeRx's suite of digital solutions to streamline therapy initiation for these patients by ensuring that physicians have immediate electronic access to the appropriate enrollment forms needed to prescribe the medication. This is our largest enterprise-scale therapy initiation program launched to date. As the new specialty therapies continue entering a crowded market with complex requirements, and sometimes limited pharmacy distribution networks, Optimizer X is well positioned to help life sciences get patients on therapy quickly and more efficiently. We are very confident in our suite of solutions, and we continue to receive overwhelmingly positive client feedback. 2021 was the last year that enterprise deals remained a measure of our success and a proxy for execution. As an organization, we feel that we have surpassed this metric both in deal count as well as in the overall demand for bundled solution sets. We have put forward a new set of performance metrics against which to measure our success. Ed and Andy's leadership have been key as they hit the ground running since joining our team and led the development of relevant key performance indicators, KPIs, that best represent our land and expand strategy within key customer accounts. As a proxy for execution, The KPIs that we introduced in advance of this call include the company's penetration within the top 20 largest pharmaceutical manufacturers, net revenue retention, and revenue per employee, which Ed will go into more detail later. From a customer capture perspective, we now serve nearly all of the top 20 large pharma manufacturers who represent the largest portion of the industry's marketing spend. Our KPIs are important from this perspective as the pharmaceutical industry is dominated by large companies with multiple brands. So our revenue is naturally going to be concentrated within these larger entities. For example, more than three quarters of our net revenue for last year was generated through these industry bellwethers as we deepened our relationship with large pharma and their brands. We're also starting to generate more revenue per employee, which is a testament to our operational efficiency and ability to scale. And to give you an idea of the market opportunity, our footprint in the top 20 pharma is positioning us to compete and win our share of the largest categories of addressable commercial spend, which in turn will be communicated in a transparent and measurable fashion. This focus on penetration and capturing a large share of wallet within pharma is going to be a strategic imperative for 2022 and a core to our ability to grow revenues while meeting or exceeding our financial targets. As a baseline, we believe that our total addressable market for digital-enabled solution is in the billions of dollars. Based on that, we estimate that we have captured less than 5% of this rapidly emerging market, making us confident our growth will continue. This year, we've been even more focused on helping life science companies leverage the power and reach of our platform's technology. We are helping them bring therapeutic awareness to both patients and providers, and just as importantly, assisting patients to start and stay on life-impacting therapies. As a healthcare technology company, we are thrilled at the opportunity to positively affect therapeutic outcomes through the application of modern data practices and AI-driven solutions throughout the patient journey at the point of care. In that spirit, the fact is that there is a vast industry white space standing before us that is yet to be charted. As we progress through 2022, we will continue leveraging our team's domain expertise and our capabilities as a leading health technology company, enabling engagement between life science organizations, health care providers, and patients during critical junctures throughout the patient journey. What this translates to is doing a great job on behalf of our clients, digitally bridging the gap between life science organizations, patients, and providers, all while staying in strict compliance of all regulatory requirements. Like many other industries, healthcare is undergoing a digital evolution, striving to adapt to the constant pressure of digitization and the prevailing use of mobile and digital devices and other technologies. We are facilitating the digital evolution for life science organizations, taking the technologies that our clients require to move forward in this arena so that they won't have to go it alone. Industry evolution is one of the reasons we view our platform's adoption as still very early on the S-curve, despite the strong growth we've been able to demonstrate since our refounding in 2016. Our product demand and brand penetration is also rising among our customers as they see the value of the platform's ability to meet their digital engagement needs. The fact that our enterprise engagements provide a precise measurable return on investment against their marketing spend is key. This performance measurement will continue to be a key theme for the remainder of 2022. Before we talk about this further, I just want to mention again that we have spent the last several years configuring our platform for scalability. including establishing a technology center of excellence in Croatia. As scalability can be a major impediment for growth, we made the decision to take care of this early on. So we are now able to focus our attention solely on efficient and rapid market expansion and the growing digitization of the healthcare industry at large. In 2021, we brought together a terrific group of data scientists to help with the build out of our innovative digital solutions. That set of solutions now includes a full suite focused specifically on the deployment of AI, artificial intelligence, and data analytics live at the point of care to provide physicians with real-time information and support while they're making critical treatment decisions with their patients. Providing key information in real time at the point of care can help get a patient initiated on therapy a lot sooner. This capability is unbelievably valuable to life science companies, particularly those specialty brands where early intervention can be the deciding factor in whether a patient will have a positive therapeutic outcome. Financially, as noted in our press release, we had yet another record year. Revenues grew 42% year over year to $61.3 billion. Our business is really fitting example of the whole being a greater than the sum of its parts. Our solutions span the entire patient journey, beginning at the initial point of care to drive better engagement and revenue growth. We do this through a single platform approach, delivering everything from physician and pharma sales engagement to personalized patient support in order to improve therapeutic outcomes. Like with many industries right now, the data tools we are deploying have only started to come into the fold of mainstream customer and digital engagement in the last several years. In terms of our new set of KPIs and outlook, and given our position in the market, we're really excited to take this meaningful step. We're looking forward to another strong year of growth while helping patients start and stay on life-improving therapies. Finally, before we go to our financial review with Ed, I want to remind everyone on the call that even with our focus on growth and being in the early innings from a market penetration standpoint, we generated positive cash flow from operations in 2021. And lastly, while not an official KPI, our clients remain extremely pleased as we are delivering an average ROI of 13 to 1. And as in other reporting quarters, some clients are experiencing much higher ROIs. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO and COO, Ed Stalmach, who will walk us through the financial details for Q4. Ed?
spk08: Thanks, Will, and good afternoon, everyone. As with all our calls, a press release was issued with results for our fourth quarter ended December 31st, 2021. A copy is available for viewing and may be downloaded from the investor relations section of our website. And additional information can be obtained through our forthcoming 10-K, which will be filed in the coming days. Turning to our financial results for the fourth quarter ended December 31st, 2021. Our reported revenue for the period was $20.3 million, an increase of 24% over the $16.4 million from the same period in 2020. The increased revenue resulted from growth in sales across our access, adherence, and affordability solutions. Growth margin for the quarter increased from 52% in the year-ago period to 61% in the current reporting period. The gross margin increase is the result of solution and channel partner mix. As we highlighted in our earnings release, we expect our gross margin to remain relatively constant in the 57% to 60% range for the full year 2022. Operating expenses increased to approximately $11.8 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021. as compared to approximately $7.2 million in the same year-ago period. The increase in operating expenses was primarily related to salaries, wages, and benefits, and other human-related costs as we invested in the expansion of our team to support future growth by expanding our commercial activities and enhancing and growing our solution offerings. We delivered net income of $623,000 in the fourth quarter of fiscal 21, as compared to a net income of approximately $1.4 million during the same period in 2020. For further details, you can refer to our MD&A section of our upcoming 10-K. On a non-GAAP basis, net income for the fourth quarter of 2021 was approximately $4 million, or 23 cents and 22 cents for basic and fully diluted share. respectively. As compared to non-GAAP net income of approximately $2.7 million for 18 cents and 16 cents on the basic and fully diluted basis in the same year ago period. Now, turning to our balance sheet. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $84.7 million as of December 31st, 2021. as compared to $85.1 million as of September 30th, 2021. In terms of our revenue outlook for the full year 2022, the company expects net revenues of $80 to $85 million, representing year-over-year growth of 31% to 39%, respectively. This wraps up the discussion of our financial results for 2021. Before I turn the call back to Will, I also wanted to briefly talk about the KPIs that we introduced on February 15th, 2022. We have had a lot of positive feedback from many of our investors regarding increased transparency, as well as quantifiable metrics that can be used to continue to communicate our story as our business grows and matures. Our average revenue per top 20 pharmaceutical manufacturers through a year on year by nearly 30% to $2.5 million in 2021, as we supported additional brands and our expanded solution set continues to gain ground with now 19 of the top 20 largest pharma companies in the world, which represent the bulk of the industry's commercial spend. In addition, our ability to create tangible value for our clients, as well as growing demand for our solution sets, is reflected in the high net revenue retention rate of 127% in 2021. And last, but certainly not least, our operating model continues to demonstrate significant capability for leverageable growth with revenues per FTE at $730,000 in 2021 and almost 20% year-over-year improvement. Our plan is to continue to report these KPIs on a regular basis throughout the year to ensure open and transparent communication with our shareholders. And with that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Will. Will?
spk01: Thanks, Ed. On behalf of the team at OptimizeRx, I want to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. The industry tailwinds that are driving the evolution and reinvention of how technology is getting broadly applied in the healthcare industry are going to remain a big part of our success for years to come. We have assembled an incredible team in order to help with our execution, and we have a solid strategic roadmap in play for 2022 and beyond. So far as execution and KPI go, we believe that we have set a pace of achievement that is not only attainable but meaningfully transparent for our investors to track in the days ahead. It continues to be an honor to be at the helm of the OptimizeRx company, which to date has been a wonderful blend of financial performance centered around improved patient care delivery. Looking forward to the next call and a wonderful 2022. Thank you. Operator.
spk00: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. And if you're using speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star 1 to ask a question. And we'll pause just a moment so that everyone has an opportunity to signal for questions. And we will go to our first question from Ryan Daniels of William Blair.
spk07: Congrats on the strong end to the year, and thanks for all the additional KPIs. I'll add my kudos there. It adds a lot of visibility, so we appreciate that. A couple questions in regards to some of the metrics you frequently disclose that weren't in the press release. Can you update us on the current status of the pipeline and things like close rates and maybe average contract value that you saw in your enterprise deals in the most recent quarter?
spk01: Hey, Ryan, thanks. Yeah, you know, we're – We're really taking the direction of sticking to the KPIs, so no specific numbers, but pipeline remains incredibly strong. This is a time of year where it is still building, but a lot is closing. And so still feel good about all the data we shared before, but we really want to focus in on these new KPIs by revenue by manufacturer and employee and net revenue retention. But I will say that given the team we enhanced, given the relationships we have, just that visibility that we get obviously made us feel confident enough backed by pipeline and historical close rates and all that good stuff to give guidance for the year. So we're really excited about that and look forward to tracking against it really well.
spk07: Okay, that's fair enough. And then Just a couple more bigger picture questions. As you move more towards enterprise-level contracts and AI-driven solutions, real-world evidence, is there a need to develop any areas of your technology more or look to M&A activity to fill any gaps? Or just any thoughts about how the offering might develop going forward given the needs in your client base?
spk01: Yeah, you heard it in our comments, our prepared remarks. We really did a lot of investing over the last few years to a point where we can layer in solutions at a fraction of the cost and get really immediate ROI just because of the access we have to the clients. So no need for extreme investment going forward. It's really about focusing on our growth drivers, which is the land and expand within the client, keep that net revenue retention solid. It's also about just continuing to get additional reach, which we've made some really good progress over the last 12 months and anticipate being able to reach other channels as well, wherever doctors and patients are. And then, as you said, the new solutions, it really makes the relationship, really, I think we're proud of all of it, but the layering in of additional solutions through a time where teammates are not together, it's all virtual, we really spent a lot of time innovating and rolling it out and getting to commercial success pretty quickly. I would anticipate we'll always be an innovator in the space and feel like by focusing on that patient journey for our clients, we've been able to you know, innovate and leverage and get to market very quickly. Feel free. Steve, do you want to add anything to that?
spk05: I think that was great. Hey, Ryan, how are you doing? It's good to hear your voice. I would just add one more thing, Will, which is diversification of therapeutic areas and specialties as we expand the reach to physicians. And, Ryan, I think you and I have talked about that before, but part of our focus on the channel side has been reaching more specialists, whether it's oncologists or immunologists, etc., We've succeeded in that largely. I think that also supports this addition of the AI and real-world evidence efforts that we've had as we're looking for more difficult patients to find, harder physicians to support because of the complexity of the diagnosis of the patient. Good stuff going on there.
spk07: That makes a lot of sense. Given your ability to work with providers to get patients on appropriate therapy quicker, which I know is a big burden for them a lot of times, especially with prior authorization, you know, which can impact clinical outcomes because they might not get patients on quick enough. I'm curious if there's an opportunity for you also to work with healthcare payers or at-risk provider groups to help enable that more rapidly because it should drive cost savings for the system longer term. you know, by getting these patients on medications, especially medications on a more rapid basis.
spk01: Yeah, Ryan, thanks. So we really made a decision to stay focused on our client set, which are the manufacturers. But you can see why this platform is so attractive, right? What we've built are rails, right, rails into the point of care. Today we use that 100% for the manufacturers. to reach physicians and patients for all the reasons people know, but mostly focused on access, affordability, and adherence. But if you're an investor listening to this, it's important to note that that is valuable to multiple other industries. But the team we have now is really 100% focused on the pharmaceutical manufacturers. And as we mature, we'll assess those other segments.
spk07: Okay, great. Fair enough. I'll hop in the queue. Thanks again, guys. Appreciate it.
spk01: Thanks, Ryan.
spk00: And we'll go next to Sean Dodge of RBC Capital Markets.
spk06: Yep, thanks. Good afternoon, and I'll add my congratulations on the progress this past year. I guess what I want to sort of – it's just maybe thinking about the EBITDA trajectory. Will, you talked about doing the work to build an infrastructure that could scale You did some investing, you kind of ramped investing there in the latter part of last year. Is that pretty much done now, or is there still some headcount you think you need to add here near term? And I'm just trying to understand, you know, how much of this incremental revenue you're guiding to, we should be expecting to drop through to EBITDA.
spk01: Yeah. Great question. Thanks, Sean. So yeah, we, we went in heavy last year. But I will say, just a reminder of last year, that was all organic growth with investing for growth forward. So I think when people dissect Q4, they're going to be pretty encouraged by what we can do as a company. And I think they should expect it going forward. We're proud that we're a technology company. We're proud of our new KPI around revenue per team member growth. And we really want to stay there. And we feel like we can. And if you think about our clients, as they are digesting this massive shift in sort of methodology around commercialization to incorporate more digital, they're looking for partners who can take and scale and do it at speed. And I think we meet all those criteria, right? We're compliant, speed, transparent, and we're nowhere near at capacity against our network, either by solution or by reach. So, yeah, lots of room ahead on that. I think you can expect limited investment, although I will caveat all of this. You know, we're still an early stage public company. with a lot of opportunity. And I think we've built the credibility up that when we want to invest, it usually pays off for everybody.
spk06: Okay, great. And maybe on the opportunity, so you've talked before about the ROI your solutions are generating right now. I think you said in the prepared remarks, 13 to 1 is where you're at currently. And then the pricing power that should afford you at some point, how far away do you think we are from you being able to get more aggressive with pricing and then maybe what are your thoughts around how you actually operationalize that, how you actually do that?
spk01: Yeah, I'll start and then I'll ask Steve to kick in. But, you know, our clients are very sophisticated in procurement, right? It's not like it's a resin and you can just increase it a percent or two. These are technologies and digital services that are new and And what you really need to do is prove your value with your ROI and then keep adding value, right? Just because you were great last year doesn't mean you just do the same thing over and over. You have to continue to innovate and add value. So our goal, as we saw with adding RWD to what was a pre-existing type of message, is we could bring that at a higher value to the client and increase And therefore it's, it's not deemed a price increase. It's just an additional service. So we're really focused on that is how do you innovate and get away from a transaction mentality, which a lot of, uh, I think the market has, and we want to stay more on that high value, high touch, you know, high ROI, but Steven, you can chip in a little there.
spk05: I think you nailed it. Well, I, um, in addition to that, Sean, I think, um, as we continue to migrate into that specialty area and looking at harder-to-find patients and trying to access those and communicate with those physicians that are treating those cohorts of patients, the value-volume discussion comes into play. And so where volume of patients may be lower, the capture rate is much more valuable, and so we've got additional pricing power in those areas. So it's sort of that one-two punch of, commercialization of new technologies that allow us some margin expansion in that regard, and looking for very hard-to-find patients that now the technology stack that we've built that underpins all of these efforts gives us the luxury of being able to say, hey, we can find patients in the healthcare deserts of the Midwest, we can find the physicians that are treating them, and we can communicate at relevant points of time when the patient is with the physician.
spk06: Okay, that's helpful. Thanks again. Thanks, Sean.
spk00: And we'll move to our next question from Mark Weisenberger of B. Riley Securities.
spk02: Thank you. Good afternoon. I'm wondering if you could talk about the buy-up activity in the fourth quarter relative to the fourth quarter of 2020. And do you get a sense going forward that 2020 was an anomaly and this past fourth quarter will be more representative of future periods? And then also, given that we understand your contracts are usually structured on an annual basis, what percentage of your customers last year made intra-year changes to contracts, either up or down? And I guess as your offerings evolve, is that something we should expect to see move around more?
spk01: Hey, Mark. Good question. So I believe, well, we talked about this a little bit back at the Q3 call, but Obviously, going into 2020, our clients had no idea what was coming, right? So you had massive disruption spend and therefore outsized potential buy-up, probably unprecedented buy-up for Q4 of 2020. Coming into 21, they knew the disruption and assumed it would be all year, just given that we're in the healthcare space and they are closely monitoring hospitals and patients and doctors. So, um, yeah, I would say, uh, that was the main reason. Um, and you know, frankly, uh, we don't, we don't budget or plan around buyups. I've said that to, you know, a couple of times it's, it can happen if it does. If, if you're a company like ours, you can execute on those buyup dollars. Um, that being said, we obviously saw the net revenue retention grow. We saw really steady, climb through the year. And, you know, we anticipate that in 22 as well. But I do think the digital shift makes the spend more efficient. They really do get more for their money. You know, I'd like to maybe have Ed comment a little bit on that because he came over from one of the pharmaceutical companies just from his perspective. But I would see it just smoothing out over time just because of the efficiency around digital spend.
spk08: Yeah, thanks Will. And Mark, thanks for the question. Just to kind of round off what Will was saying. So back in Q4 of 2020, our buy-ups amounted probably to about $400,000. And we certainly saw that drop quite a bit in Q4 of this year. Just back to what Will said, you know, I think pharma companies were much better prepared for what was in front of them in 2021. As far as what that means for 2022 and beyond, I think this new model is now starting to solidify itself as the new normal. Kind of the hybrid model of using digital and using technologies to supplement the traditional model of Salesforce engagement with HCPs seems to be sort of the new normal. And that's basically what we're betting on. So hopefully that helps you.
spk02: It does. Appreciate it. But if you could also just – specifically touch on kind of the intra-year changes to contracts, and is that something that maybe could flex up based on the efficiency and kind of speed and how digital can be allocated?
spk01: Yeah, you know, obviously we saw a big increase in brand count last year, which was people we maybe hadn't worked with before coming in and testing. And as we've said, our client is a – trust but verify and build a relationship. They're not an all-in kind of entrant. So we do see six-month contracts. We see 12-month contracts. It really depends on the ROI that's going to be driving whether there's an increase in a year. I can't give you percentages of a breakdown on mid-year versus 12, but obviously our net revenue retention speaks to to growth within our current client base. And I would expect we'd anticipate that to continue. Matter of fact, there might be a chance for upside given so many people came into the platform last year and a lot of that measurement has now happened. So I'm pretty encouraged by the last year momentum into this year thus far.
spk02: Very helpful. I know that you're providing total but could you talk about that for your top five and top 10 customers?
spk08: Sure.
spk02: Ed, do you want to cover that one?
spk08: Yeah, sure. Yeah. So as you know, I'm sure Mark, you know, large pharma companies have lots of affiliates. So it would be look at NRR in our case is to really hone in on the parent companies. So if you look at the top five at the parent level, Uh, that's 127%, uh, number that you saw for the total top 20 becomes about one 42. Uh, and if you expand it out, uh, to, uh, parent plus affiliate, uh, we're in the one sixties, but our plan is to really stay consistent to, uh, the parent company level is just to be basically an apples to apples basis going forward.
spk02: Understood. Um, can you. talk about or quantify, I guess, the percent of revenue that comes directly from pharma relationships versus through agencies. And I guess as your engagement with direct pharma kind of increases, moves up the food chain, do you have a sense of how much your customer's current digital marketing spend is allocated towards point of care initiatives? And I guess maybe ultimately where that percentage could move over time?
spk01: Steve, you want to start with that one?
spk05: Yeah, happy to. It's a fantastic question in terms of what the percentage is of the actual budget that's moving towards digital. I think it's a little bit of a moving target. I mean, you've seen several announcements throughout the last sort of quarter of last year and even the first quarter of this year by large manufacturers that are scaling back on face-to-face commercial resources, so salespeople that are in the office. And some of those dollars, a lot of those dollars, are being redeployed and repositioned in digital ways. A good portion of that is point of care. I think that will continue to be the case because you need to be able to communicate with a physician when a prescribing decision is being contemplated. It's still early to tell how much of it will be deployed against point of care, but I would say it's probably a good portion of it. So sort of more to come on that.
spk01: Yeah, and I would just add that I could chip in on the question of agency versus direct. You know, Mark, as you've heard from others who sell to pharma, pharma relies pretty heavily on agencies for a couple things. One is just screening new entrants with really great solutions that just haven't proven themselves yet. They also do a lot of the content generation, which we do not do any of. And And so they really act as service or consulting businesses to the pharma. So it doesn't matter if you have a direct or indirect, you absolutely will deal with agencies if you're doing anything on marketing side of pharma. That being said, what we've found is since last year and clearly a top-down lean-in to digital enablement to reach doctors and patients is There's just a higher level involvement, which generally means you get more direct relationships. And you have to remember, OptimizeRx is not a website. It's not a place doctors have to go to. It's where they work. It's their day-to-day, six hours a day. And so it's a business. And I think you just get a different level of seriousness from the client when it's that way. Now, that's good and bad. Good in that it's serious and you get more exposure. It just takes a little longer to make sure everyone's okay with it because it's so serious. And so I would say we will trend towards more direct relationships, but we will always work with the agencies just like partners because they're essential to the ecosphere.
spk02: Very helpful color there. And then just a final question from me. I think it's been long understood that certain EHR platforms have different interoperability standards relative to others. And with the recent Oracle Cerner deal, how do you expect the policies to change, if at all, and what impact could that have on your business in the near and medium term? Thank you.
spk01: Sure. Thanks, Mark. That is a big question, and we are not in EHR, so probably not the best qualified to opine on it. But I would say, you know, if I think of it from the doctor's and the patient's perspective, you've got a lot of pressure on having a good user interface today. And I think the companies that employ the tools that doctors and patients want in a digital way where it's not painful to look at And it doesn't take too many clicks or, you know, all this user interface we're, we're getting used to. I think those are going to be real winners. What happens with the Cerner Oracle? That's, that's hard for me to know, but I do think it's positive. I think it puts, puts more tech energy into the ecosphere. And, and, and I do think consumerism is going to drive the need to have access to what everything, all your data, whenever you want it. So, We shall see. Great. Thank you very much.
spk02: Thanks, Mark.
spk00: We'll move on to our next question from Eric Martinisi of Lake Street.
spk04: Hey, guys. I had a question. I really want to focus a couple of questions on the profitability of the business. I know you didn't give guidance for adjusted EBITDA, but you kind of lean that way a little bit in one of your prior responses, Will, talking about the profitability of Q4 and how you believe that that's repeatable. My mind immediately goes into something simple like Q4, 20 million revenue, 4 million adjusted EBITDA. They just gave guidance for 80 million for this year, 20% EBITDA margins on that. Is that an oversimplification? You know, is that... Is that what you were implying by the comment regarding Q4 profitability?
spk01: That's why I love you, Eric. You hold us accountable. Actually, it goes back further. Eric's been with us a long time. First analyst to cover on us, I'll call out. You remember, Eric, when we were talking and trying to tell everyone about our story, the aspirational $100 million run rate with 25% to 35% EBITDA That hasn't changed, and I think we're just building more and more credibility towards it. So the reason why we don't include such granular guidance is because we also are early stage, and I know the investors trust us to invest if we see we need to, and we get that back. But now I still feel very good about our profile. It's very important. It's interesting. Obviously, the market is valuing it very highly right now, and we've always valued it highly. So, you know, having those two come together is going to be, I think, good for us as a company.
spk04: Okay. And I realize that the danger of getting into the guidance game is you give a mouse a cookie, they want a glass of milk. But I certainly appreciate the transparency here. As we look out to you know, as we look at the cash on the balance sheet, and I'm setting aside kind of opportunistic M&A, but what is the thinking on where that cash is by year end? Would you go down a path of, you know, potentially using it for share repurchases? Would you double up on product investment, again, aside from opportunistic M&A?
spk01: Yeah, you know, we've really ruled out We're not at the stage of buying back equity. I don't think our investors want to do that. They want us to invest. If you talk about a big TAM and a lot of white space, that means you keep investing forward. Maybe we'll get there someday. We actually, last year, set out a pretty aggressive plan to invest in ourselves for this year, particularly with our channel partners. Part of what the pandemic did for physicians and patients is it just enabled them digitally to look at tools to hear a physician run your practice and deliver care. And if you're a patient, just, you know, everything from savings to adherence to telehealth. And we're really going to work hard with our partners to make sure all of our tools get to every doctor. And so that's where we would be investing if we do. Obviously, M&A, as you said, is opportunistic.
spk04: Mm-hmm. And that's, is that more of a people or is that more of an incentives dollar?
spk01: It's, yeah, no, it's more tech and incentive, not people.
spk04: Gotcha. Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.
spk03: Thanks, Eric.
spk00: We'll go to our next question from Harvey Popel of PopTech, capital LLP.
spk03: Yes. Well, another sensational quarter. I sound like a broken record, but I have a very positive broken record. I like to keep sounding like that. The question I have is to focus on the channels. Your channel of delivery is primarily through EHRs. It always has been. And I don't hear too much mention. You did answer one of the questions about Oracle acquisition of Cerner, but But when you talk about the EHRs and specialty, are you at all constrained as you move into these specialties? I know some of them are very fragmented with a lot of tiny, tiny EHRs and no dominant EHRs. Do you run into that as a gating factor in your ability to generate more revenue, even if you have the brands and the farmer and everything else?
spk01: Yeah, thanks, Harvey. Keeps the record. It's broken. It's good. So about two years ago, we really set out as an initiative to increase our access to the ologies, as we've said, mostly oncology and cardiology. And I'm really happy to report we've increased both by an exponential amount. And to your point, they are fragmented, but there are ways to get to them. And I can tell you we figured it out, and we do it in a way that's incredibly effective. smooth to the, um, to the HCP. And, uh, so no, we do not have any bottlenecks in any therapeutic areas today. And, um, we, we do still anticipate, you know, half of our attention to be focused on those specialty medications. Uh, we had the biggest increase last year was just access to oncology. It's sensational. The team did a great job and, you know, I want to call them out because that's material for this company. And so to date, no bottlenecks.
spk03: Great. That's it for me. Thanks a lot, Will.
spk01: Thanks, Harvey.
spk00: And with no other questions in the queue, I will now turn the call back to Will Fable for final comments.
spk01: Terrific. Thank you. Hey, we're really proud of the quarter. Questions were terrific. We look forward to talking to the investors over the next couple of weeks, uh, really focusing in on the KPIs. What we found so far is having those KPIs really allows us to talk more about the business than the numbers because we've given guidance for the year. So hats off to the team for being able to do it and have that kind of visibility with our clients. And, um, you know, culture's a big deal at OptimizeRx and, uh, we continue to just create a great place to work. give a lot of value to the clients and ultimately the investors. So thanks, everyone, for your time, and we look forward to talking to you again next quarter.
spk00: All right. Thank you, sir. And before we conclude today's call, I'd like to provide the company's safe harbor statement that includes important cautions regarding forward-looking statements made during today's call. These statements made by management during today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the definition of Section 27A in the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E at the Securities Act of 1934 as amended. These forward-looking statements should not be used to make investment decisions. The words anticipate, estimate, expect, possible, and seeking and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. They may speak only to the date that such statements are made. Such forward-looking statements in this call include statements regarding the estimation of total addressable market size, market penetration, revenue growth, gross margin, operating expenses, profitability, cash flow, technology, investments, growth opportunities, acquisitions, upcoming announcements, and the need for raising additional capital. They also include the management's expectations for the rest of the year and adoption of the company's digital health platform. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. Forward-looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Future events and actual results could differ materially from those set forth and contemplated by or underlying these forward-looking statements. The risks and uncertainties to which forward-looking statements are subject to include but are not limited to the effect of government regulations, competition, and other material risks. Risks and uncertainties to which forward-looking statements are subject to could affect business and financial results are included in the company's annual report on Form 10Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2021. This form is available on the company's website and on the SEC website at sec.gov.
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