Organogenesis Holdings Inc.

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

8/9/2021

spk06: Please stand by. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the second quarter 2021 earnings conference call for Organogenesis Holdings, Inc. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. Please note that this conference call is being recorded and that the recording will be available on the company's website for replay shortly. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that our remarks today may contain forward-looking statements that are based on the current expectations of management and involved inherent risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results that differ materially from those indicated, including the risk and uncertainties described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including item 1A, risk factors, on the company's most recent annual and quarterly reports. Your caution not to place undue reliance upon any forelooking statements which speak only as of the date made. Although it may voluntarily do so from time to time, the company undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of the new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required by applicable securities laws. This call will also include references to certain financial measures that are not calculated in accordance with the generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. We generally refer to these as non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of those non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP are available in the earnings press release on the investor relations portion of our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Gary S. Gilheny Sr., Organogenesis Holdings President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir. Gary S. Gilheny Sr.:
spk00: : Thank you, operator, and welcome everyone to Organogenesis Holdings' second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. And I'm joined on the call today by Dave Francisco, our Chief Financial Officer. So let me start with a brief agenda of what we'll cover during our prepared remarks. I'll start with an overview of our revenue performance in the second quarter, including a discussion of the key drivers of the strong growth and improving profitability our team delivered in Q2. After my opening remarks, Dave will provide you with a more in-depth review of our second quarter financial results and the revised guidance for 2021 that we published in this afternoon's press release. And then we'll open it up for questions. Let me begin with a review of our second quarter revenue performance. And I am pleased to report that we delivered another quarter of strong financial performance while continuing to make excellent progress against our strategic priorities. During the second quarter, we reported revenue growth of 79% year over year to $123.2 million. Our growth in the period was driven by 87% growth in our sale of advanced wound care products, with strong contributions from our amniotic portfolio and the PurePly brand. In surgical sports medicine, we grew revenue by 27% year over year, despite the expected headwinds from our renew and new-sell product lines following the expiration of the FDA's enforcement grace period for those products, which ended on May 31st of this year. And for the avoidance of doubt, our strong second quarter growth is not just a reflection of an easy comparison from the prior year where we also grew our revenue 6%. Rather, our second quarter total revenue results represents growth of 90% over the second quarter of 2019, driven primarily by 102% growth in the sale of our advanced wound care products. And importantly, both of these rates reflect the sequential acceleration in the growth trends over 2019, which we view as strong evidence that our business continues to perform well. Our better than expected performance in Q2 reflect our continuing execution against the pillars of growth and our strategy, which include leveraging our comprehensive portfolio of products, diversifying our revenue sources across multiple sites of care and physician specialties, and leveraging our broad and growing commercial reach. Let me provide more color on how each of these long-term drivers of growth contributed to the strong revenue performance in the second quarter. First, regarding the strength of our portfolio, sales of our amniotic products were once again the largest contributor to our year-over-year growth in the second quarter. And as mentioned previously, we're pleased with the strong demand for these products given the amniotic portfolio's high degree of efficacy that clinicians and their patients truly value in the market. Additionally, sales of our pure applied products increased 32% in the period, representing the third consecutive quarter of double-digit growth after coming off pass-through status in the fourth quarter of last year. This strong growth further validates the clinical utility of our brand and our strategic positioning of the product family with new SKUs, as well as additional clinical data, sites of care, and physician specialties. We are proud of the unique customer value proposition our portfolio offers through the combination of our PureApply brand, which is the only skin substitute with a broad-spectrum antimicrobial agent, our amniotic portfolio with the only fresh amniotic membrane on the market, and our PMA-approved products for both VLUs and DFUs. Secondly, we continue to diversify our revenue by expanding into new physician specialties in multiple sites of care, to better position the company for sustainable growth long term. Regarding physician specialties, we have widened our scope and therefore expanded our therapeutic wound targeting where we believe our advanced modalities are well positioned to win. Additionally, we have been continuing our efforts to further penetrate the office channel with offerings and further leveraging our channel expansion through our acquisition of CPN Bioscience which we have recently rebranded as Organogenesis Physicians Solutions or OPS. As a result, we continue to expand the number of customer accounts in the office channel, and we are experiencing increased utilization of our products from our existing customers. Lastly, on enhancing our commercial reach, we continue to make significant investment to grow our sales force, and we believe our team of 325 direct representatives represents a key competitive advantage for organogenesis in the market. With respect to the overall operating environment in the second quarter, as expected, we continue to see improving trends across our served markets during the second quarter. With the backdrop of these improving trends coupled with our operational improvements in the quarter, with adding 35 new sales representatives in Q2, increasing available product of our amniotic portfolio and continuing to grow active accounts, the business is well positioned to continue to execute and to grow going forward. However, we are closely monitoring the potential impact to demand from the recent COVID surge in key areas of the country. Nonetheless, as mentioned, our commercial strategy has resulted in broader diversification of our revenue, which has resulted in less exposure to the acute care and outpatient settings which continue to face the most COVID-related headwinds. In summary, we are very pleased with our revenue performance in the second quarter, where we reported 79% revenue growth. Our highly differentiated competitive advantage has allowed us to continue to gain share in the market and deliver another strong quarter. We're also pleased with the significant improvement in profitability in Q2, as evidenced by the impressive growth in adjusted EBITDA, which increased nearly $25 million year-over-year and more than $9 million quarter-over-quarter. Our second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin improved more than 20 percentage points year-over-year to 20.4% of net revenue. These financial results continue to reflect the underlying profitability potential of our business in the years to come. Additionally, As you may have seen in a separate press release this afternoon, we closed on the refinancing of our bank facilities, which significantly lowers our cost of capital, provides greater liquidity, and therefore financial flexibility, as well as further validates the momentum behind our strengthening financial profile. Before turning the call over to Dave, just to recap some of the key takeaways for the quarter. We delivered another quarter of outstanding financial performance with strong revenue growth and significantly improving our profitability. We've made great progress towards our long-term strategic initiatives by increasing the sites of care, launching new products, entering new sales channels with our portfolio, and our team capitalized on improving operating environments have contributed to gaining market share and expanding the market of our products. With that, let me turn the call over to Dave for a review of our financial results for the second quarter, our balance sheet and financial condition as of quarter end, and a review of the 2021 financial guidance we updated in this afternoon's press release. David.
spk01: Thanks, Gary. I'll begin with a review of our second quarter financial results. Unless otherwise specified, all growth rates referenced during my prepared remarks are on a year-over-year basis. As Gary mentioned, we delivered another excellent quarter. Net revenue for the second quarter of 2021 was $123.2 million, up 79%. Our advanced wound care revenue for the second quarter of 2021 was $111.4 million, up 87%, with strong contribution to growth from all product groupings. Revenue from surgical and sports medicine products for the second quarter of 2021 was $11.8 million, up 27%, with strong year-over-year contribution to growth from the amniotic portfolio. which more than offset the impact related to the expiration of the FDA's enforcement grace period for Renew and New Cell products on May 31st. Revenue from PurePly products for the second quarter of 2021 was $37.6 million, up 32%. As Gary indicated earlier, we are pleased with the continued strong performance from the PurePly brand, as sales have increased 29% year-over-year over the first six months of 2021. Regarding our commercial footprint, we ended our quarter with 325 direct sales reps, and believe we are well positioned to achieve our goal of ending the year with over 340 direct sales representatives, compared to 290 as of March 31st, 2021. Gross profit for the second quarter of 2021 was $93.3 million, or approximately 76% of revenue, compared to 71% last year, an increase of approximately 480 basis points year-over-year, and up approximately 60 basis points quarter-over-quarter. The increase in gross profit resulted primarily from increased sales volume, as well as a shift in product mix to our higher gross margin products. Operating expenses for the second quarter of 2021 were $69.7 million compared to $51.2 million last year, an increase of $18.5 million, or 36%. The increase in operating expenses in the second quarter of 2021 was driven by a $15.8 million increase in selling, general, and administrative expenses, and a $2.7 million increase in research and development costs compared to the prior year period. The year-over-year increase in selling general and administrative expense was primarily due to a $10.2 million increase related to additional headcount, primarily in our direct sales force, and increased sales commissions due to increased sales, a $4.2 million increase in marketing and travel expenses as compared to the low prior year comparable amid COVID-related travel restrictions in the second quarter of 2020. as well as $3.3 million increase in volume-related and other expenses. Second quarter 2021 selling general administrative expenses included two items that did not impact prior year period results, a $0.9 million of restructuring costs associated with the closing of the La Jolla office, and a $2.8 million non-cash benefit related to the change in the fair value of the earn-out liability in connection with the CPN acquisition. The year-over-year increase in R&D expense was primarily driven by an increase in the clinical study and related costs necessary to seek regulatory approvals for certain of our products. Operating income for the second quarter of 2021 was $23.6 million compared to an operating loss of $2.3 million last year, an increase of $25.8 million. Second quarter GAAP operating margin was 19.1% of net revenue. Excluding the restructuring charge and the change in the fair value of the earn-out, operating margin was 17.6% in the second quarter of 2021, representing a year-over-year improvement in operating margin of approximately 20 percentage points. Total other expenses for the second quarter of 2021 were $2.4 million, compared to $2.9 million last year, a decrease of half a million dollars, or 16%, driven primarily by lower interest expense related to lower average borrowings compared to the prior year period. Net income for the second quarter of 2021 was 20.7 million or 15 cents a share compared to a net loss of 5.2 million or 5 cents per share last year, an increase of 25.9 million or 20 cents a share. Adjusted EBITDA of 25.1 million for the second quarter of 2021 compared to adjusted EBITDA of 0.3 million last year, an increase of 24.9 million. As Gary mentioned, adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was approximately 20% of net revenue We have provided a full reconciliation of our adjusted EBITDA results in our earnings release issued this afternoon. Turning to the balance sheet, as of June 30th, 2021, the company had $90.3 million in cash and restricted cash and $83.5 million in debt obligations, of which $13.7 million were capital lease obligations. This compared to $84.8 million in cash and restricted cash and $84.8 million in debt obligations, of which 15.1 were capital lease obligations as of December 31, 2021. As detailed in our press release in 8K, on August 9, 2021, we secured a new credit agreement with SVB, the lead agent, and we are pleased to expand our banking partnerships with Bank of America, PNC, and Citizens Bank. The agreement provides for a credit facility in the aggregate amount of $200 million, consisting of a $75 million term loan and 125 million revolving credit facilities. The new facility reduces our borrowing costs and enhances our financial flexibility, which, along with our improving profitability profile and related cash flow generation, has well positioned us to continue to execute our strategic growth initiatives in the years to come. Turning to a review of our 2021 revenue guidance, which we updated in our press release this afternoon, for the 12 months ending December 31, 2021, the company now expects net revenue between $456 million and $472 million, representing an increase of approximately 35% to 40% year-over-year as compared to net revenue of $338.3 million for the 12 months ended December 31, 2020. This compares to our prior guidance range of $438 million to $454 million. The 2021 Net Revenue Guidance assumes net revenue from advanced wound care products of between $423 million and $436 million, representing an increase of approximately 44% to 48% year-over-year. This compares to our prior guidance, which called for growth of 39% to 43% year over year. Net revenue from surgical and sports medicine products of between $33 million and $36 million, representing a decrease of approximately 18% to 24% year over year. This compares to our prior guidance range, which called for sales to decrease 27% to 34% year over year. Net revenue from the sale of Pure Apply products of between $179 million and $187 million, representing an increase of approximately 22% to 27% year-over-year. This growth range is unchanged from our prior guidance. In addition to the formal revenue guidance, we'd also like to provide a few considerations for investors to bear in mind when evaluating our growth expectations for fiscal year 2021. This additional color is intended to help the investment community better understand the assumptions supporting our revenue expectations for 2021. First, the largest contributor to our total net revenue, total company net revenue growth in fiscal year 2021 will be sales of our amniotic products, which at the midpoint of our full year total revenue range now assumes amniotic growth of approximately 68% year-over-year in 2021. This compares to our prior guidance range, which assumed growth at the midpoint of approximately 48% year-over-year. Second, we expect sales of our remaining non-pure applied non-amniotic products, which collectively form the group called PMA and Other, to increase at the midpoint of the range of approximately 10% year-over-year in 2021. This compares to our prior guidance range, which assumed growth at the midpoint of 20% year-over-year. Third, we expect to see steady improvement of COVID-related headwinds as we move through the second half of 2021. However, our guidance for the remainder of the year continues to reflect lower year-over-year growth in the second half of 2021 as compared to the prior year. As a reminder, this is driven primarily by two factors. First, given the strong performance of our advanced wound care business in the second half of 2020, we expect to see our year-over-year growth trends in the second half of 2021 to moderate as we lap the 56% growth from the second half of 2020. Second, as discussed in our first quarter earnings call, we continue to expect an improving operating environment in the second half of 2021, benefit growth trends in our surgical and sports medicine business. Removing Renew and New Cell from the market beginning June 1st, 2021 represents a headwind headwind to growth over the last seven months of 2021 of approximately 18 million, and therefore a significant impact to the growth profile of the second half of 2021. As we look beyond 2021, we are continuing down the BLA pathway for Renu, the treatment of knee osteoarthritis, and based on favorable feasibility studies, believe this product has potential beyond the OA for additional osteoarthritis and tissue regeneration applications. As such, given the broad-based growth opportunities for Renu, we are targeting our investments on renew and have discontinued our IND efforts for new cell. With respect to our expectation for financial performance in 2021, we continue to expect to report positive gap net income and positive adjusted EBITDA for the fiscal full year 2021 period. In addition to our formal financial guidance for 2021, we're providing some considerations for modeling purposes. For the full year 2021 period, we now expect gross margins of approximately 75%, Total GAAP operating expenses do increase approximately 27% year-over-year. This compares to our prior expectation for an increase of approximately 25% year-over-year, which reflects the incremental selling expenses related to second quarter 2021 revenue performance, as well as incremental costs related to a tight labor supply, partially offset by the benefit of the reduction in the CPN earn-out liability. Note our 2021 GAAP operating expenses include approximately $5 million of restructuring expenses related to our La Jolla, California facility, of which approximately $1.9 million occurred in the first half of 2021. Non-cash DNA of approximately $9 million. Non-cash stock comp of approximately $3 million. Weighted average diluted shares of approximately $134 million. We expect full-year 2021 CapEx of approximately $30 million, of which approximately two-thirds is related to growth and gross margin improvement initiatives. Finally, we expect total interest in other expenses of approximately $9 million. as the lower borrowing costs associated with the refinanced facilities will be partially offset by exit costs expensed in the third quarter of 2021. With that, operator, I'll turn it back over to you.
spk06: Thank you, sir. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure that your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask additional questions, we invite you to add yourself to the queue again by pressing star 1. And our first question will come from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
spk04: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on the quarter. Maybe, Gary, to start on the guidance specifically within AWC, I'd love to get your perspective on your current capacity, your manufacturing capacity within amniotics at It continues to be a positive surprise for the business. I know you were constrained a little bit there. And then, you know, my second question is around the non-peer-applied, the PMA and other products, and just, you know, would love to understand kind of the dynamics that were driving that performance and then, you know, the softer guidance on that category of products. Thank you.
spk00: Sure. Thank you, Ryan. Yeah, we did have a nice increase in capacity in Q2. for our Affinity and Amion products. So that was something that we were counting on and we actually focused a lot of our attention commercially on driving and expanding our Affinity sales and expanding the launch of that product as a result of that capacity. So that was a nice bump for the quarter for us for sure. On the PMA product side, I mean, we're still seeing growth in our non-PMA products. I mean, all our products are growing very nicely. We're also seeing, obviously, some revenue from our CPM bioscience as well. So a combination of the acquisition and our legacy products doing well. The expansion of our TRSs, our sales representative, have also been very, very powerful and helpful in the quarter, and we expect them to continue to provide results going forward as we've seen their productivity increase fairly dramatically in the quarter as well by selling the entire portfolio. Hopefully that answers your question.
spk04: That's helpful. And then just to sneak one in and follow up for Dave, you mentioned the tight labor supply. Where are you seeing that specifically? Because your sales force is growing nicely, so just help us understand where you are maybe a little more constrained on labor.
spk01: Yeah, sure. It's not really a constraint. It's just the costs are going up. So we're seeing a kind of change in the dynamic of new reps coming in, and it's beyond the commercial resources as well. So we're just feeling it a bit there. Just wanted to provide a little bit of color from that standpoint.
spk04: Okay. Thank you for taking the questions.
spk06: Thank you. The next question comes from Matt Mixick with Credit Suisse.
spk05: Hi, thanks so much for taking the question. So just one on environmental. I know you put up a really strong quarter here, so it doesn't seem like it's something you're seeing widely right now. But when you talk about being sort of mindful of some of the risks related to COVID or Delta, where are you seeing, if you are seeing anything now, where might we start to see that or what, you know, Help us understand how that might flow through and impact your business here in the back half. And then I had one follow-up.
spk00: Sure. So we are seeing impacts, particularly in the Missouri, Alabama, Oklahoma area. We started to see that in the last several weeks. We're also seeing impacts in the Texas area, particularly Houston. And in Florida... Florida was primarily in the northern area that was affecting us, but we're now seeing it coming up the west coast in the Naples-Fort Myers area, which is an important area for us. So, you know, we're certainly monitoring it. You know, those areas are important to us, particularly Texas and Florida and the advanced wound care side. And, you know, it's kind of the Midwest. As you know, we're pretty strong in the south and the Midwest. So we do expect, you know, to have an impact. Fortunately for us, we've continued to expand our office presence where we did not see much of an impact and we continue to open additional channels in the surgical side. And some of those areas like trauma, some really complex wounds, limb salvage are not as susceptible to elective surgery kind of issues that you find in a COVID environment. But we're definitely seeing the impact in the hospitals we haven't seen a revenue impact yet, but we are cautious about it. But those are the areas that we see things starting to get a little concerning.
spk05: Great. And then if I could just, I'm afraid I have two follow-ups if I could. One, just on the cadence of, you mentioned amniotic tissue products being an important part of the back happen of the year. And I just, Wondering if you could dovetail or reconcile your comments on that and the position office channel. In other words, based on some of the things you mentioned, based on the channel, the accounts that you're adding there and the integration of CPN, anything you can give us in terms of the magnitude or contribution to growth of that in the back half maybe versus the rest of your business? And then I realize it's not an operating question, but I do have to ask about the, you know, the shareholder agreement that you've disclosed in the 8K, just because of all the issues related to some of the disbursements and the pressure on the stock. I'd love to get your sense about, you know, how you arrived at that, what you think it means in terms of your plans for further capital transactions. Again, it's a very complicated question because it's nothing to do with your operating results, but obviously for folks on the call, I think understand that it's an important topic to maybe highlight and air out.
spk00: Sure, I'd be happy to address it. So your first question regarding the amniotic contribution in the second half, we don't expect to see a large contribution in Q3 for our amnions. It'll really be Q4. And the reason for that, Matt, is we did get a bump in Q2, as I mentioned, in capacity, but that capacity is going to remain at the same level in Q3. We won't see another bump in capacity until Q4, and then we expect a fairly significant increase in capacity, so we would expect more of a contribution in Q4 than in Q3, but collectively will still be a strong contributor to growth. We did commit to two and a half times the capacity in 21 versus 20, and we definitely expect to see that. And, you know, you've seen the results in Q2 with the increase in capacity and those additional accounts. It really did, you know, drive revenue as we expect it will in Q4. Related to the shareholder agreement, I think, as we stated in the AK, our large legacy shareholders that hold over 40% of Organogenesis stock, which is Alan Adas, Albert Irani, Dennis Irani, Glenn Nustorf, and related trusting companies that they control have agreed with the company, effective August 9th, that they will not sell any shares of the company's capital stock that they hold until at least March 1, 2022, unless any such sale is completed in an orderly fashion as part of an underwritten secondary public offering. The company recognized, and I wasn't really happy with the sales. I'm sure most people weren't. So the board has agreed that they recognize that periodic unexpected selling by them in the market may cause some volatility or disruption. So their entry into the lockup reflects their commitment to conduct any of these sales, at least through March of 2022, in an orderly fashion. So I think the recognition that they could create some disruption in the market is certainly unintended and needs to be addressed, and we addressed it.
spk05: That's great. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Neuwitter with SVB Link. Your line is open.
spk02: Hey, this is Erin on for Rich. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the quarter. I just have a quick one on pure apply trends. It looks like revenue took a light step down in 2Q versus 1Q. But your guidance, which remains unchanged from the prior update, implies an acceleration in the back half versus 2019 levels. I was just wondering if you could maybe talk about some of the trends that you're seeing with this product, and then I'll have another follow-up as well.
spk00: Sure. So we are happy with the growth, 32% growth in PureApply. As I mentioned earlier in addressing Matt's question, Our affinity capacity increased dramatically in the second quarter as planned, and our commercial focus shifted dramatically to expanding the launch of our affinity products in the geographies in which we sell it today. So that was a committed effort, and that had an impact on Pure Apply sales. And now that we've kind of got through that launch period or expanded launch period, we expect the product to continue to grow. nicely in the back half of the year. So that was something that we planned, which is why we reconfirmed our guidance for pure apply. We haven't changed it at all. It was what we did expect. Dave, you can jump in. Second half, we expect pure apply to grow quite nicely.
spk01: Yeah, I think you're right, Gary. I mean, 32% up in the quarter and 29 first six months of the year and holding the guidance. We feel good about the trajectory there. Thank you.
spk02: Okay, great, thanks. And then I was just wondering if maybe you could provide an update on some of the pipeline products like NovaCore and Transcite, and then also just if you wouldn't mind walking us through kind of the BLA timelines for Renew and what to expect in terms of timelines for the trial and submission.
spk00: Sure. So we're still expecting to launch Transcite in 2021. It will be more of a soft launch and a full launch at the end of 2023. Our NovaCorp product we're expecting to have on the market by the end of this year, but really won't be a contributor until 2022. But that launch is moving forward quite nicely. On the renew front, we are still expecting that we will complete the enrollment of the study by Q1 of 2022. We're expecting that our interim analysis will be available around the end of the first quarter, beginning of the second quarter. We expect to complete the study in mid-2023 and submit for approval and hopefully get approval in mid to end of 2024. Again, assuming one phase three trial is all that's required.
spk02: Okay, great. Thanks for taking our question.
spk00: You're welcome.
spk06: Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Steve Lichtman with Oppenheimer and Company.
spk03: Thanks. Hi, guys. Congratulations on the quarter. Gary, I know we're really dazed, but now that we're past the FDA enforcement grace period, I'm wondering what you're seeing on the ground relative to the impact to your competitors. Have you seen a big enough impact to smaller competitors given more exposure to the impacted products? Has that meant that you've been able to take share overall? I mean, obviously you're going ahead of the market, but do you see that as one factor?
spk00: Yeah, I think it's a little too early to tell at this point. Obviously, we're not selling the product. There are competitors out there that have similar products that may be still on the market. I'm not sure. So we're trying to figure that all out right now. We don't have enough data at this point to see what the real impact has been.
spk03: Okay, fair enough. And then just secondly, thanks for the update on renew and new sales. Can you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing out of Renew that, you know, sort of giving you the confidence of the broader applicability of the product and, you know, if that's why you decided to not pursue the trial on NuCell?
spk00: Yeah. I think what's important in our decision for NuCell is we assumed that NuCell would be, you know, on the market, remain on the market, and would help fund that study. It's a good product, a strong product, but without being able to sell the product and fund that study, we thought a better return would be looking at additional indications of renew. And we do have several that we're studying now that we're pretty excited about. We haven't made any final decisions, but we think the market potential for renew indications is significantly higher than what new sell may be. So it's worth the additional investment without the obviously associated revenue compared to new cell.
spk03: Got it. Great. Thanks, Eric.
spk00: Sure.
spk06: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
spk04: I had a couple of follows. Sorry, couldn't get rid of me sooner. But just a couple of questions. You know, Dave, these EBITDA margins, you know, you're north of 20%. And so, I know you're in a very important growth phase and certainly the top line is the focus, but I'd love to get your thoughts just on the even margins over time and your ability to generate cash here is increasing and just how you think about the use of cash. I think it'd be helpful for investors to get your perspective on that. Thanks. for taking the follow up?
spk01: Yeah, sure. I mean, obviously, you know, the back half of last year, we had a big step up in revenue and then, you know, COVID related, you know, kind of savings. And so we did flow a lot to the bottom line. We saw the same thing in Q1 and then had great performance in Q2. So I think it does illustrate the level of profitability that the business has and the operating leverage potential. But I think, as we mentioned, you know, we still need to build out the infrastructure. It's not just the commercial teams. It's beyond that to really function as a high growth company. So you're right. We're focused very much on the top line. and ensuring that we continue to invest in that. But that level of profitability is going to generate a lot of cash flow in the future. So we've been talking a lot about that internally, about how to deploy that capital. I think there was a question earlier as to whether or not we needed any more equity capital, and I think at this stage the answer is no. But we'll continue to look for opportunities to add to the portfolio through potential growth acquisitions. Anything to add to that, Gary?
spk00: Well said.
spk04: Appreciate it very much. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you, Ryan.
spk06: We are currently showing no remaining questions in the queue at this time. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation.
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