OraSure Technologies, Inc.

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Good afternoon and welcome to OraSure Technology's first quarter 2025 earnings call. Participating in the call today for OTI are Kerry Eglinton-Manner, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ken McGrath, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded and the recording can be found on our Investor Relations website. Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements with respect to revenues, expenses, profitability, earnings or loss per share and other financial performance, product development, shipments and markets, business plans, regulatory filings and approvals, expectations, and strategies. Actual results could be significantly different. Factors that could affect results are discussed more fully in OTI's SEC filings, its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, its quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and its other SEC filings. Although forward-looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects, listeners should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today. OTI undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after this call. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carrie.

Thanks, Jason, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We are pleased to provide an update on the progress Orsha is making on the three pillars of our transformation. One, strengthening our foundation. Two, elevating our core growth. And three, accelerating profitable growth. Today I'll discuss a few highlights from Q1 and our progress on key priorities for 2025. A few notable developments during the first quarter include The strength of OTI as demonstrated in our ability to navigate continued uncertainty due to external market factors and examples of that are, we reported revenue in Q1 that it was in the top half of our guidance range for both total revenue and core revenue. The preference for our differentiated products across our customer base, which we continue to expand and diversify. We are also making good progress in advancing our innovation roadmap, including multiple new product milestones expected in 2025, as I'll describe in a few minutes. Integration of Sherlock Biosciences is off to a good start with a talented team of scientists and other professionals who are helping expand OTI's product pipeline with molecular diagnostics innovation. including a low-cost disposable platform on which we're advancing the clinical study for chlamydia and gonorrhea, or CT and G, as its initial test, with others to follow. Solid execution, providing seamless continuity for our customers as we in-source manufacturing of our SMS products from contract manufacturers to our facilities in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We expect to have this transition substantially complete by the end of Q2, which is months ahead of the expected timeline when we initiated this project in early 2024. In late March, our board authorized the repurchase of up to $40 million of our common stock over the next two years from the authorization date, which will be funded from cash on hand and aligns with our capital deployment strategy. Diving into our core business, Q1 core revenue of $29.5 million was above the midpoint of our guidance range. Core revenue decreased 2% on a year over year basis and was flat compared to the prior year period after adjusting for our previously announced exit from the risk assessment testing business. Diagnostics revenue grew 8% year over year And sample management solutions revenue decreased 16%, with a year-over-year decline attributable to disruption at a large customer in the consumer genomics segment, as we previewed on our earnings call in February. Within our diagnostics portfolio, growth was driven by our international business. including revenue from the initial orders we received last year for our WHO PQ listed hepatitis C self-test. We believe that delivering successful results through a pilot with a national health ministry in Africa will demonstrate the value of HCV self-testing programs and potentially lead to similar initiatives in additional countries in the year to come. As you may recall, we received WHO pre-qualification status in July of 2024, and our OraQuick HCV self-test is the only hepatitis C self-test to earn this designation. With current pressure on aid funding for public health, we believe that the proven success of interventions and documented health economic data demonstrating their value will help the industry, including OTI, through a transition to increasingly durable sources of funding. Shifting to sample management solutions, or SMS. Revenue in Q1 was consistent with our expectations given the impact of a disrupted ordering pattern from the consumer genomics customer. Excluding the impact of that singular decline, SMS revenue grew on a year-over-year basis in the first quarter. Overall market trends in SMS remain mixed, with growth in clinical genomics and animal health offset by anticipated softness in academic and research labs related to uncertainty with NIH funding, as we previewed in February. At a high level, we continue to believe it's a matter of time when, not if, genomics and segments return to consistently stronger growth. driven by scientific advancements and greater clinical adoption of precision medicine, while customers continue to demonstrate their preference for our OTI products. On that note, we are delighted to announce that Myriad Genetics has renewed their agreement, reaffirming their trust in our products and services. We believe that this renewal underscores the value and reliability of our FDA-cleared Origen DX saliva collection kits in supporting a number of myriad screening tests. Additionally, Fulgent Genetics, a long-time customer and collaborator with DNA Genotech, recently renewed their commitment to continue to offer our FDA-cleared Oropolect DX saliva collection device as an option for their advanced genetic testing and research. This decision demonstrates Fulgent's focus on providing convenient at-home solutions that ensure accurate and efficient saliva collection, which is critical for their cutting-edge work in genomics. Renewals like these and other examples we've shared across the quarters demonstrate OTI's leadership and customer loyalty earned by the quality of our devices and consistent service delivery by our team over many years. We continue to focus on strengthening our customer relationships, while also expanding and diversifying them. And we continue to closely monitor ongoing developments amidst existing market uncertainty, including funding across our key segments. Our international diagnostics business remains steady, even while our growth rate has been impacted by the elevated uncertainty related to U.S. funding for global public health initiatives that we discussed in February. Over the last few months, there has been disruption in USAID and PEPFAR-sponsored programs. Yet, in spite of on-the-ground staffing challenges for implementation, we do see some continued activity, which we attribute to the value of these lifesaving programs and their history of proven success with rapid self-tests that are easy to use and interpret at the point of need, at home, and really anywhere. As we previewed in February, we have seen less disruption to date in multilateral funded aid programs, such as the Global Funds to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria. But we continue to closely monitor the situation and expect that these programs are likely to tighten budgets. We continue to support execution of test-to-treat efforts. Diagnostic testing is critical in any successful HIV initiative. While international diagnostics remain stable at this time, I'll repeat that we continue to frequently engage with our partners and closely monitor the situation. In the US, on the other hand, headwinds in our diagnostics business have increased over the last few months. Public health organizations at the federal, state, and local levels in the US are dealing with elevated uncertainty given potential cuts to their budgets, and significant reductions in staffing at HHS, CDC, and other agencies that administer public health programs. To that point, we understand that the Together Take Me Home program is scheduled to end later this year due to funding impact of CDC budget and staff reductions. We are working with our partners in the program, as well as the broader HIV and public health communities, to explore alternative avenues to continue this meaningful work beyond the program's scheduled termination at the end of the current federal fiscal year on September 30th. OTI's revenue from the Together Take Me Home program was $8 million in 2024 and is expected to be approximately $4 million in 2025, which includes $1.5 million of revenue in Q1. While the market in the U.S. faces elevated uncertainty, our position enables us to focus on strengthening our customer relationships and establishing new ones to continue expanding the markets we serve with our rapid diagnostics. Over the last few quarters, we have focused on growing our base of customers who are less reliant on public health funding, such as specialty pharmacies, hospitals and medical centers, plus DTC testing and telehealth companies. which we've described as part of our business-to-business-to-consumer or B2B2C priority. We are pleased to note that a growing number of the new customers we signed in Q1 were in categories that are not historically reliant on public health funding, demonstrating early momentum with this initiative. For example, our HCV business saw solid growth in Q1, driven by expanded use of our OraQuick HCV test in emergency room settings and our OraQuick OTC HIV test, now available through EverlyWell. Switching gears to sample management. The overall trend is mixed. It's muted but stable, outside of significant disruption concentrated in the single large customer mentioned previously. While we built good momentum over the past years in diversifying our customer base, growth with new customers in SMS isn't yet offsetting that headwind. Additionally, the NIH funding environment remains uncertain with budgets and projects proceeding, but in an uneven study-by-study basis. we are encouraged that our academic and research customers are beginning to see some positive movement in the grant review and funding process. Regarding tariffs, for now we expect minimal impact on OTI and we continue to monitor it. Our current supply chain is highly concentrated in the U.S. and Canada and has fairly limited exposure in the current tariff environment. In part, we are well positioned because our transition to insourcing of contract manufacturing from Canada to Pennsylvania is on track for substantial completion in Q2, well ahead of our expected timeline when we kicked off the project in early 2024. We are currently capable of producing more than half of all global SMS volume in our Bethlehem, Pennsylvania facilities. And by the end of Q2, we will be capable of producing the vast majority of SMS volume in Pennsylvania, consistent with our plan that also maintains existing partnerships in Canada for surge capacity, redundancy, and potential mitigation of other global reciprocal tariffs. We expect that our operating efficiencies from the transition to in-house manufacturing will ramp in the second half of 2025 and into 2026. Overall, these are fluid situations impacted by the changing dynamics of the federal government. While we do not have full visibility right now, we wanted to provide updates on evolving external factors as we closely monitor them along the way. Switching gears to growth opportunities with our innovation that serves customer needs from research to clinical and beyond. including customer innovations leveraging our technologies along with lifecycle expansion and new product launches. While our OroGene and OroCollect products remain the only 510K cleared saliva collection devices for use in clinical applications beyond COVID-19, they are also used to enable innovation in critical research applications. A recent example that we are pleased to highlight is a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine on a new at-home saliva test to identify men at high risk for prostate cancer. The study, named Barcode 1, was carried out by the Institute of Cancer Research London and the Royal Marsden NHS Foundation Trust to help diagnose prostate cancer earlier and more accurately. The DNA extracted from samples collected using origin research use only saliva kits was used to calculate the polygenic risk scores based on 130 variants associated with an increased risk of prostate cancer. This innovative approach utilizing saliva collection allowed for more accurate and effective identification of individuals at high risk of developing aggressive cancers compared to the traditional PSA or prostate-specific antigen blood test. Further studies will test this approach to ensure it works at scale and for men of all ethnicities. Additionally, Orocolax saliva collection is being used in the Generation Victoria or GenV study, which is the largest longitudinal study of children and their parents in Australia. with the aim of developing a better approach to child health, development, and well-being in the state of Victoria. By supporting research through the integration of our saliva collection devices in breakthrough studies like these, Orrishare is proud to contribute to early discovery and innovation in healthcare diagnostics with a promise of better patient outcomes, in addition to our leadership role in saliva collection for clinical applications. Moving to our Coli-P urine collection device. We continue to make progress toward our stated goal of submitting for FDA clearance in 2025. In the meantime, we are proud to support Color Health following the recent approval from the New York State Department of Health of their at-home cervical cancer risk screening test that utilizes Coli-P. Cervical cancer is a preventable disease, yet it often goes undetected until it is advanced. Traditional screenings can be costly and uncomfortable, leading many women to avoid them. Our ColiP device plays a crucial role in this test by enabling the self-collection and transport of first void urine. With the addition of New York, the Color Health HPV test is available in all 50 states. We are also excited to announce the upcoming release of our new microbiome extraction products scheduled for June. These products are designed to meet the diverse extraction needs of researchers and clinicians working with challenging microbiome samples, particularly for those with low or medium biomass. These proprietary extraction solutions have been optimized for use with microbiome collection devices from DNA Genetech ensuring seamless integration and reliable results. Success with difficult low biomass samples, like vaginal or skin samples, could unlock large potential markets such as women's health, cosmetic, and dermatology applications. OTI's extraction innovation represents a significant advancement in support of microbiome research, offering enhanced capabilities and optimized performance across a wide range of sample types in this still small but promising segment. Next, after acquiring Sherlock in December, we've been executing well together. Integrating the product pipeline and our teams has been remarkably smooth with talented employees who are great additions to our OTI family. And part of what OTI lends to Sherlock is our experience and expertise in sexual health diagnostics. Here, we are in the process of accelerating the clinical trial for our low-cost disposable molecular diagnostics platform and its initial test for CT and G. We remain on track to submit for its regulatory clearance by the end of 2025. Wrapping my commentary, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.

Thanks, Kari. I'm happy to discuss our first quarter results and financial outlook. Total revenue in Q1 was $29.9 million. Core revenue, which excludes COVID-19 products and the molecular services business that we exited, was $29.5 million and decreased 2% compared to the prior year period. As Kerry mentioned, core revenue in the first quarter was flat on a year-over-year basis after adjusting for the impact of our decision to exit the risk assessment testing business. Within core revenue, diagnostic products generated $17.7 million of revenue in Q1 and grew 8% year over year. Sample management revenue in the first quarter was $9.1 million and decreased 16% compared to the prior year period. As Kerry mentioned, and as we have previewed on our last earnings call, the year-over-year decline in SMS revenue was due to the disruption at a customer in consumer genomics. Excluding that headwind, sample management revenue from the rest of our customer base grew on a year-over-year basis in Q1. COVID-19 products contributed $500,000 of revenue in the first quarter, which was consistent with our expectations. Revenue in Q1 from the risk assessment testing business was $1.4 million. We divested certain assets related to the risk assessment product line at the end of Q1, and we expect to complete our exit from that business in Q2. Our gap gross margin in the first quarter was 41.1%. Non-gap gross margin was 41.7%, which was consistent with our expectations. GAAP operating expenses in the quarter were $30 million, which includes $2.7 million of non-cash stock compensation expense, a $1 million gain on the sale of fixed assets, and a $478,000 expense related to an increase in the estimated fair value of acquisition-related contingent considerations. Our GAAP operating loss in Q1 was $17.8 million, and our non-GAAP operating loss was $15.3 million. Looking at our balance sheet, we ended Q1 with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of $248 million. Operating cash flow in the first quarter was negative $19.7 million, which was in line with our expectations given our investments in innovation and the Sherlock clinical trial that we discussed in our last earnings call. Our Q1 operating cash flow also includes a $9 million outflow related to typical seasonality and working capital that was primarily driven by the timing of annual incentive compensation payments and Canadian tax payments. Overall, we remain focused on maintaining the break-even level for cash flow from operations for our core business as we move through 2025. Switching to capital deployment. In late March, Orishore's Board of Directors authorized the repurchase of up to $40 million of our common stock over the next two years from the authorization date, which will be funded from cash on hand. Consistent with our capital deployment strategy, we also continue to evaluate inorganic growth opportunities that would expand our product portfolio, especially with commercialized innovation, and accelerate near-term revenue growth. Turning to guidance, we are guiding to second quarter total revenue of $28.5 million to $32.5 million. We expect core revenue in Q2 to be $28 million to $32 million, and COVID-19 and risk assessment testing revenues of approximately $500,000. Our Q2 guidance factors in a variety of scenarios regarding the impact of uncertainty associated with the funding for testing programs and academic and research budgets. Our guidance also assumes continued disruption in ordering patterns from our large customer in the consumer genomics industry. This customer represented approximately $3 million of revenue in Q2 2024, and we don't expect significant revenue from them in Q2 this year. We expect our gross margin percentage in Q2 to be flat to up slightly compared to Q1, and then expand in the second half of the year, with potential expansion primarily driven by growth in volumes. Additionally, we expect to realize incremental operating efficiencies from automation, site consolidation, and insourcing. Moving to operating expenses. In Q2, we expect core operating expenses in the low $20 million range, plus $10 million of investments in innovation, which includes $7 to $8 million of investments related to Sherlock. With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.

Thanks, Ken. While most organizations are navigating market turbulence, many of us in healthcare share passion for this industry's purpose, to help deliver better care, outcomes, quality of life for more people. We rally around healthcare's meaningful purpose with the stamina to weather uncertainty. And in OTI, our stamina is bolstered by a very healthy balance sheet. We've worked hard to build it and will continue to thoughtfully manage it and deploy our capital for long-term value creation. We are well-positioned. In diagnostics, we are well-positioned with differentiated, proven products that deliver high-quality, rapid results, and our multi-product, syndemic approach is resonating with customers. We are building momentum with Diagnostics Direct's Syphilis Health Check, and we have good progress with our Sherlock molecular diagnostics platform. with our CTNG clinical trial for our initial test that is currently ramping to planned submission by the end of the year, and with our increasing pipeline of diagnostic tests. In SMS, we are well positioned with market leading products today and an expanding portfolio, adding more sample types, analytes, and applications. In 2025, We have planned product launches with microbiome extraction kits and blood proteomics sample stabilization, and we are extending our leadership position into new sample types, such as urine with ColiP and blood with our proteomics offering, plus our entrance into the small volume self-collected blood segment later this year through our partnership with Safros, who submitted SatioDot for regulatory clearance in April. In addition to our product portfolio, we continue to expand and diversify market segments, geographies, and our customer base, strengthening relationships with existing customers, such as Myriad Genetics and Fullgen Genetics, while also cultivating many new ones. Overall, we are confident that OTI has the capabilities, products, customer relationships, commercial channels, and strong balance sheet to emerge from the current environment as a stronger enterprise, one that thrives while delivering on the purpose that motivates us. With that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Gigi?

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Patrick Donnelly from Citi.

Hi, this is Brendan on for Patrick. To start, I want to talk about the guy specifically the international revenue. How conversations have been like with possible alternative funding sources and then specifically on the HIV testing, how should we think about those testing demands kind of moving forward, given the funding uncertainty there?

Yeah, so, hi, Brendan. Thanks for that. We talked in February about the USAID and PEPFAR-funded programs, and The impact that we had called out was just under a million dollars of revenue that we saw moving. We have very close conversations with multiple funding sources, whether it be the U.S. funding sources or, quite frankly, countries themselves, their departments of health. those are going well and what we're seeing is movements that had you know sort of stopped for a while but that is restarting and it's why we refer to it as it's a steady steady but flat so I think a little bit better than than we'd expected and then on that the global funding multilateral funding sources are Um, again, we see more stability there because they come from, from multiple countries. So I describe it as, you know, we were on a trajectory of 2023 being the biggest year in international, then it was 24. And we really saw that continuing into 25 until the uncertainty that we've been talking about. And that's where you kind of see it flattish. and, you know, flattish from Q1 and Q2. So that's how I describe, you know, both international broadly and really that represents that HIV, you know, portfolio that you asked about.

And just to build on what Carrie's saying, you know, we have 10 years of a proven track record with a product that's easier to administer. It's a rapid test, oral test, and we have strong relationships within international organizations. And recall that for some of these funding cuts, one of the things that was waived were testing and treat. So now it's a matter of, yes, there's some disruption in getting the product there, but because our product is a self-test, it's oral and rapid, it's easier to distribute, and the infrastructure required isn't as significant.

Got it. Thank you. And then sticking with the international piece, In the quarter, did you guys see any pull forward in demand ahead of any possible tariffs being put in place? And are there any indicators you guys are really watching to see just how to track future ordering trends? Thank you.

We didn't see pull forward. We were monitoring the tariff situation really closely, having a manufacturing facility that we've been transitioning from Canada to the U.S. and having made a big insourcing decision from around the world prior to that. So I don't know if I'm asking the question, I'm sorry, if I'm answering it exactly how you meant it, Brendan, but we didn't see pull forward. And I say the tariff situation for us, we're seeing minimal impact at this point because we're so heavily concentrated in the US with that Canadian insourcing having already started.

Yeah, to Kerry's point, the only impact you may see from us is we did a little bit of a buildup of inventory at the end of Q1, just as we were withholding some shipments, just with some of the uncertainty, but that was about it for us.

But because of- In preparation. Preparation. April, beginning of April.

Correct, in the preparation. But to the point, as you recall, right, our strategy over a year and a half ago was to bring in in-source manufacturing into Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. So we've been, I guess, ahead of this curve as far as getting manufacturing within the United States and specifically within Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it. And congrats on the quarter.

Thanks, Brendan. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI.

Hey, this is Daniel on for VJ. Thank you for taking the questions. The first one I wanted to ask on the Together Take Me Home initiative. It sounds like that's a $4 million headwind here in fiscal 25. Does that assume no contribution in 4Q given the September termination? And then you also talked about alternative avenues once the work is terminated. If you could discuss those, that'd be really helpful too.

Yeah, so you're correct in some of your statements. Let me go through it. So what we said was about $4 million for the year, about $1.5 million in Q1, and the remaining split between Q2 and Q3. And then as far as the ending of the program, it is at the end of Q3, at the end of funding. And now to your point about alternatives, obviously we believe that the program has demonstrated value in identifying positive patients with HIV. So we think there is value there within the program and what's been established. So yes, we are exploring alternatives to continuing that program.

Got it. Thank you. That's helpful. And then for my follow-up, I was curious on the SMS genomics customer, the lumpy one that was called out, what are you seeing in terms of their inventory levels and ordering activity? I know you said

lower here in the second quarter but but any read through to the second half based on conversations and order activity yeah so you're you are correct and that we called out no volume in q2 is what we anticipate we don't have good visibility to any um future ordering potential so what i say is you know they're a very good partner We stay very close and, you know, we'll share any of that as we have it. But it's not just, you know, low volume. We have called out no volume for Q2. And, you know, while we don't have visibility beyond that, we stay very connected to them and we'll share any of that, you know, as we have it. We normally don't provide guidance, you know, multiple times. full-year guidance anyway, but I think, you know, we'll share what we have when we have it.

And from a positive kind of financial perspective and a small positive financial, we don't have any outstanding ARs, so there's no collection risk or uncertainty associated with that.

Yeah, and Dan, you didn't ask, but I will point out without that disruption, the business did grow year over year. So, you know, while that is, you know, significant disruption at a single customer, we've spent the last couple of years really diversifying and expanding that customer base to ensure that those green shoots could, you know, help feed the business broadly. And so, you know, we absolutely see that. And it's why we called out, you know, without that, there was growth in SMS.

Right, right. Okay, that's really helpful and encouraging to hear. The last one I had, and then I'll get in the back of the queue, is on PEPFAR and some of the funding disruptions. I think you were looking for a $1 million headwind in one queue, and you said it came in a little bit better. Just if you could quantify that, and then what should we expect in two queue and going forward? Is it like a $1 million type headwind a reasonable assumption to make?

So just to state what came in better, so it materialized as we thought. So the PEPFAR impact for Q1 was a combination. It was about 750 of PEPFAR, and we called out another 150 of NIH. That materialized in Q1 to be around a million, as we had thought. What's come in a little bit better than we anticipated based on that was Q2 being at around the same amount. So we had called out PEPFAR volumes in case that continued to accelerate. Rather than accelerate, Daniel, we've seen it hold steady. So we would call that out as around the same level for Q2.

Very helpful. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Daniel. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Cooper from Raymond James.

Hey, everyone. This is Noah. I'm for Andrew. Thanks for taking the question. I guess first one, you know, it's good to see, you know, your buyback program. I think it was $40 million. Do you have any, like, timeline over the next, you know, two years that you want to deploy that? Is it going to be more this year or are you kind of waiting to see the stock at a certain level from here?

Yeah, so some of the details we said was $40 million over two years. And when we talked about last, we mentioned that you can think of it as evenly being spread. So think about eight quarters divided by 40 kind of thing, so $5 million a quarter. And just for Q1, because we initiated it at the end of Q1 and there's a 30-day cooling-off period, we didn't do any purchases in Q1.

Okay, awesome. And then kind of sticking on the capital deployment end, you still have a pretty significant cash balance. Are you still looking at assets in the market? Are you still focused on the share lock investments? Other players in the space have called out maybe dislocation on the M&A end where there's better valuation. So just trying to get a feel for what you're thinking on that end and if there's a particular area you would like to target.

Yeah, you nailed it, Noah, with where we're focused. M&A and the potential to accelerate innovation and our growth through innovation into this strong portfolio. We have the customer channel. We have the manufacturing capacity and capabilities we've built. So we're very much focused on M&A opportunities as well as delivering on the opportunities of Sherlock. So we've called out those investments. Bringing that molecular diagnostics platform and our first test being CT and G, the clinical trial that's underway, that is a clear priority in the business as well. So you hear us talk about the investment and innovation both internally with Sherlock and beyond the other product launches we've talked about this year and submission to FDA as well as M&A.

Awesome. Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue.

Great. Thanks, Noah. Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to Carrie Eglinton-Manner, CEO, for closing remarks.

Thank you, Gigi, and thank you to everyone for participating in today's call. We appreciate your continued interest in OTI and wish each of you a great week. Thanks. Gigi, we'll close it with that.

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