Open Text Corporation

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Open Text Corporation fourth quarter fiscal 2023 financial results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, simply press star then one on your touchstone phone. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. I would like to turn the conference over to Harry Blount, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Open Tech's fourth quarter fiscal 2023 earnings call. With me on the call today are Open Tech's Chief Executive Officer and Chief Technology Officer, Mark J. Baranchay, and our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Madhu Ranganathan. Today's call is being webcast live and recorded with a replay available shortly thereafter on the OpenText Investor Relations website. Earlier today, we posted our earnings press release and investor presentation online. These materials will supplement our prepared remarks and can be accessed on the OpenText Investor Relations website, investors.opentext.com. I'm pleased to inform you that OpenText Management will be participating at the following upcoming conferences, the Virtual Oppenheimer Technology Internet and Communications Conference on August 9th, Deutsche Bank's Technology Conference on August 30th in Dana Point, California, and Citi's Global Technology Conference on September 7th in New York. And now on to our Safe Harbor Statement. Please note that during the course of this conference call, we may make statements relating to the future performance of OpenText that contain forward-looking information. While these forward-looking statements represent our current judgment, actual results could differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking statements made today. Certain material factors and assumptions were applied in drawing any such statement. Additional information about the material factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from a conclusion, forecast, or projection in the forward-looking information, as well as risk factors that may project future performance results of open text are contained in open text recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as well as in our press release that was distributed earlier this afternoon, which may be found on our website. We undertake no obligation to update these forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. In addition, our conference call may include discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures may be found within our public filings. and other materials which are available on our website. And with that, I am pleased to hand the call over to Mark.

Thank you, Harry, and good afternoon, everyone, from Richmond Hill. As you can see, Q4 was another fantastic quarter and great end of the year, highlighted by record financial results, the successful integration of the Micro Focus acquisition, delivery of Cloud Editions 23.2, Project Titanium, announcement of Cloud Editions 25, Project Titanium X, and today's announcement of OpenText.ai. We are a global leader in information management. Information management is essential for the next gen of AI and the next gen of business transformation. And just as the Internet changed everything, with AI, everything must change. Before I get to the numbers, I'd like to go over the journey that got us here. Three years ago, we were delivering around $3 billion in revenues, and I said we would transform information management by significantly expanding our mission, become a cloud-centric company, grow organically, double the business over the next five years, and that we would return capital in a value-accretive manner via dividends at a rate of approximately 20% trailing 12 months free cash flow per year. Well, as you can see, this has played out. I'm so proud of the team on delivering to our aspirations. In constant currency, Q4 revenues were 1.5 billion, and F23 revenues were 4.6 billion, or 32% total growth, led by cloud organic growth of 3.9%, ARR organic growth of 2.3%, and total organic revenues of 1.2%. Looking ahead, and in constant currency, fiscal 24 target revenue ranges are between $5.85 billion to $5.95 billion, or 30% plus total revenue growth. For F24, we are targeting positive organic growth, including a positive organic contribution from Micro Focus a year earlier than expected. Today, we announced a $1 per share annualized dividend program, or 25 cents a quarter, subject to approvals up from 31 cents annualized when we started our dividend program. We remain committed to our F26 aspirations, which include total organic growth of 2% to 4%, cloud organic growth of 7% to 9%, adjusted EBITDA margin expansion up to 40%, and the doubling of our free cash flows to $1.5 billion plus. The confidence in our targets reflect the agility and operational rigor of of the OpenText business system. Within five months of closing Micro Focus, we have completed the business, the product, customer, and organization integration. As we kick off fiscal 24, we are one company focused on customer success and innovation that creates intelligent growth. Our momentum is driven by three fundamental advantages over our competitors. Our ability to deliver comprehensive and differentiated information management technology. second, giving customers complete choice in how they deploy and consume our software, and third, delivering best-in-class customer experience through our unique love model. This has been our journey, and let me speak to our competitive advantages and the relative sizes of our businesses. On content and business network are popular among customers as we are the information management standard to integrate business systems from SAP, Salesforce, Oracle, NetSuite, ServiceNow, Epic, Microsoft, and hundreds more, while also integrating the business transactions between them. Content in BN represents approximately 60% of our business. Our cybersecurity solutions are actively protecting governments, defense organizations, and enterprises of all sizes, from identity through physical and soft assets. It's a fantastic platform, has significant opportunity for growth, and is approximately 20% of our business. Our ITOM solutions are all about architecting and changing the flow of information across customer-critical hybrid assets and service experience. This is approximately 5% of our business. Our application automation is centered on helping highly trained professionals to use their precious time more efficiently by enhancing the developer experience and seamlessly modernizing off-cloud workloads by moving, running, and operating them in the cloud. This is approximately 10% of our business today. This differentiation has placed us in a fantastic position to further innovate with AI and help our customers transform yet again by combining a set of very important factors, such as leveraging large data sets from our content platform, transactions from our business network, test scripts from our applications automation, and IT and service information from ITOM, from helping customers consolidate competitive platforms into our business cloud, and momentum key AI technologies from Open Text and others, and now implementing new models. To be successful in AI, you need automation, large data sets, and new models. The better the automation, the better the data. The better the data, the better the AI. No data, no AI. We have implemented AI machine learning and vector databases for many years prior to the current AI breakthroughs. And our AI platform technology, such as Magellan, Capture machine learning and new capabilities we added with Micro Focus acquisition, including Vertica and Idle. We have deep improvement experience with many customers running these technologies. Presently, AI and analytics are approximately 5% of our business. Today, we announced OpenText.AI, OpenText Aviator, an OpenText Aviator private cloud, and an elevation of our AI platform technologies. OpenText.AI is our expanded AI strategy and roadmap. Please visit OpenText.ai to learn more as we continue this journey with our customers. OpenText Aviators are Gen AI capabilities built into each of our business clouds that will allow customers to use large language models and to train their private data from OpenText Information Management and to do so with trust and security. OpenText Aviator Private Cloud offers customers the ability to leverage Aviator with highly specialized learning models in a secure private cloud environment. OpenText Aviator will initially support Google's Vertex and Palm II and open source language models such as OpenAssist. We intend to support many specialized learning models, applying the right model for the right job. Here are the six initial aviators. OpenText Content Aviator, supporting conversational search and large-scale document analysis. OpenText Experience Aviator, transforming customer communications. OpenText Business Network Aviator, generating business-to-business integrations. OpenText Cybersecurity Aviator, enhancing threat management through behavioral analysis. OpenText DevOps Aviator, generating test platforms and generating trusted software. And OpenText ITOM Aviator, redefining level one support experiences. Our AI platform technologies, which I mentioned earlier, are available today. Aviator and Aviator private cloud capabilities will begin to be available with cloud editions 23.4 and be part of our 90-day release cycles. At OpenText, AI will be built in, and we will progress with each release. Our initial AI R&D and capital investments are factored into our F24 R&D investment range of 14% to 16%. At present, we have not factored any aviator revenues into our F24 plan, and once we see clear revenue signals, we'll update you. We believe the AI opportunity over the long term is significant. OpenTX has a large role to play in AI, and we intend to play it. Now I'll turn to Q4 and fiscal 23 results. Madhu will provide deeper insights, but let me touch on a few key highlights in constant currency. For Q4, $1.5 billion in total revenues, up 66.5%. $455 million in cloud revenues, up 10.6%. Strong adjusted EBITDA margins of 31%. Our enterprise and cloud renewal rates in the mid-90s, with micro-focused renewal rates showing clear improvements into the mid-80s. I want to thank FEMA, DHL, BNP Petrobras, CNA, Renesas, Warta, Vertex, and Dakin, for selecting open technology during the quarter. For FEMA and DHL, we're providing cybersecurity. For CNA and Renesas, our content platform is essential to their business. BNP, a new DevSecOps platform with Value Edge, a micro-focused cloud win. And Warta AI, information platform for content tailoring. For the year, fiscal 23 in constant currency, 4.6 billion in total revenues. of 32.2%, 1.7 billion in cloud revenues of 13.3%, 1.5 billion in adjusted IBA dollars, or 32.4%, and free cash flows of 655 million. These results reflect the strength of our solutions in addressing these specific needs of customers across content, supply chains, developers, cloud migrations, IT operations, and growing climate and sustainability needs. Now, before I finish, Let me provide some initial thoughts for fiscal 24. On page 18 of our investor presentation, you'll see that we have delivered three consecutive years of accelerating organic cloud growth in constant currency. You'll note from our F24 targets and F26 aspirations, we continue, we expect to continue this trend. We are targeting enterprise cloud bookings of 15% plus in 24, up from 9.5% we delivered in 23. Let me note that we grew enterprise cloud bookings by $57 million sequentially from Q3 to Q4, or $108 million to $164 million. Q4 bookings growth was strong at 12% year-over-year, and we have solid momentum to the 15% plus. The expected acceleration is based on our pipeline, growing demand for the cloudification of micro-focused products, and our previous investments in titanium. F24 is going to be an unprecedented year as customers consume more information management capabilities, consolidate away from competitive platforms, move more workloads into the open text cloud, adopt security, digital operations and application automation, and as customers begin to look to next-gen AI capabilities. Further, the Micro Focus products have expanded our information management vision and provided foundational AI tools. Customer confidence is back, renewal rates expanding, and we expect to return Micro Focus to organic growth this fiscal year, that is, to exceed the $2.3 billion in revenues. I plan to show you our Micro Focus progress every quarter this fiscal year. Now, on to our F24 outlook highlights in constant currency. Total revenues between $5.85 billion to $5.95 billion, or 30% plus growth, Total organic growth of 1% to 2%, or up 90 million of new organic revenues in the year. To note, in fiscal 23, we added 41 million of new organic revenues, and this year we expect to add up to 90 million of new organic revenues. Total cloud growth of 6% to 8%, enterprise cloud bookings of 15% plus, adjusted EBITDA margin of 36% to 38%, and growth of our free cash flow to a range of 800 to 900 million. There remains much news this earnings season on macro issues and demand environment. OpenText is well positioned to help our customers capture the next gen of transformation with our information management business clouds, our cloud editions, and OpenText.ai. Our internal dashboards remain consistent with previous quarters, and we are playing offense right now to advance our unique opportunities. Once again, our F-24 targets do not yet have any aviator revenues built in. I want to thank our customers for making Fiscal 23 such an enormous success and for your partnership and the trust you place in us. I want to thank our employees for advancing our customers' mission through innovation for their incredible and transformational work on the micro-focus acquisition and providing an exemplary customer experience. We accomplished so much in fiscal 23. To our customers, to our partners, to our new employees, to employees who have been with us for many years, I think you can all see we're in an amazing place. And the best days remain ahead of OpenText and OpenText.ai. You're the source of our inspiration. I'd like to thank you again and I'd like to highlight that today we published our fourth annual corporate citizenship report. I'd encourage you to read it. The report reflects our core values and our culture, as well as our commitments as we strive for a more sustainable and inclusive world and as we strive to create an even better company. We see corporate citizenship as both an imperative and a tremendous opportunity. And may the one that brings peace brings peace for all. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Madhu.

Great. Thank you, Mark. And thank you all for joining us today. Our fiscal year 2023 saw a strong finish with outstanding Q4 results driven by solid execution from the entire OpenTax team. For Micro Focus, we are ahead of plan, as you see in our financial results, since the close of the acquisition on January 31st. We are one company. It is our fiscal year end, and consistent with earlier communication, we are providing you with additional disclosures. And let me outline the complete list of materials in conjunction with our release today, in addition to the AI-related materials Mark talked about. Our earnings release, Form 10-K, our investor presentation, and let me draw your attention to a few key items. On page 17, we are providing a view into the size of our high-value businesses. On page 18 is our annual organic growth disclosure, highlighted by three consecutive years of accelerating cloud organic growth in constant currency. On page 20, our target model, It highlights our expectation of returning micro focus to organic growth in fiscal 24, one year ahead of plan. On page 22, we have updated our financial integration framework to provide deeper insight and a clear path to doubling free cash flow by fiscal 26. So moving to our Q4 results, please refer to page 13 of the investor presentation. All references I'm making here are in millions of USD and compared to the same period in the prior fiscal year, and are on a reported basis understated otherwise. On a year-over-year basis, we had record enterprise cloud bookings of $164 million, up 12% year-over-year. We had record cloud revenue of $452 million, up 9.7%, and 10.6% in constant currency. We had record ARR revenue of $1.2 billion, up 56.4%, and 57.7% in constant currency. It represents 78% of total revenue. This was our 10th consecutive quarter of organic growth in constant currency for both cloud and ARR. A record total revenue of $1.5 billion, up 65.2%, and 66.5% in constant currency, with Micro Focus contributing $602 million in the quarter. Strong renewals at 94% in enterprise cloud and 95% off cloud. And moving to other financial metrics, Gap net income was a loss of $49 million, down from income of $102 million, with higher operating expenses, amortization, special charges, and interest expenses related to the acquisition of Micro Focus. Gap gross margin of 71.4% versus 70.2%, deflecting increased revenue contributions from license and customer support. Non-gap gross margin of 76.9%, led by higher gross margin for the Micro Focus business, and continued strong open-text customer support performance. Adjusted EBITDA of 463 million, or 31% of revenue, versus 314 million, or 34.8% of revenue, an increase of 47.6% year-over-year, and 44.3% in constant currency. And breaking this down further, open-text adjusted EBITDA margin was 32.9%. And Micro Focus had an adjusted EBITDA margin of 28.4% in Q4, a significant improvement from 23.1% in Q3. We continue to make excellent progress bringing Micro Focus into our adjusted EBITDA model. We generated $115 million in operating cash flows and $91 million free cash flows in the quarter. Working capital performance remains strong. Our DSOs were 41 days compared to 43 days in the prior year. For full year fiscal 23, on a year-over-year basis, enterprise cloud bookings of 528 million, up 9.5% year-over-year. Cloud revenue of 1.7 billion, up 10.8%, and 13.3% in constant currency. ARR revenue of 3.6 billion, up 26.2%, and 29.7% in constant currency, and representing 81% of total revenue. Total revenue of 4.5 billion, up 28.4% and 32.2% in constant currency, with micro focus contributing $977 million for the five months ended June 30th. Foreign exchange in fiscal 23 was a revenue headwind of $132 million, approximately half of this in customer support and 30% in cloud. And moving to other financial metrics for the full year, gap net income of $150 million down from $397 million with higher operating expenses, amortization, special charges, and interest expenses related to the acquisition of Micro Focus. GAAP gross margin of 70.6% versus 69.6%, again, reflecting increasing revenue contribution from license and customer support. Non-GAAP gross margin for the year was 76.1%, supported by higher gross margin for the Micro Focus business, as well as continued open-text customer support performance. Adjusted EBITDA of $1.5 billion, or 32.8% of revenue, versus $1.3 billion, or 36.2% of revenue, up 16.4% year-over-year and up 18.2% in constant currency. And breaking this down further, open-text adjusted EBITDA margin was 34.7%, and Micro Focus had an adjusted EBITDA margin of 26.3%. We generated $779 million in operating cash flows in fiscal 23 compared to $982 million in the prior year, the decline primarily related to integration of the Micro Focus acquisition. Free cash flows in fiscal 23 of $655 million compared to $889 million in the prior year. This performance was better than our target range of $580 to $620 million and reflects strong collections and working capital performance as well as the rapid operational integration of Micro Focus. And Micro Focus contributed positive free cash flow for the year, driven by their strong working capital performance. Free cash flow performance in fiscal 23 provides a solid platform for our fiscal 24 target range of 800 to 900 billion and our aspirations for fiscal 26 of 1.5 billion plus. Turning to the balance sheet, please see page 23 of the investor presentation. We finished Q4. with $1.2 billion in cash and $9.1 billion of total long-term debt. Our net leverage ratio was 3.5 times for Q4. Last quarter, we mentioned our net leverage ratio would fluctuate slightly over the next few quarters, reflecting timing of investments and the impact of integration expenses and adjusted EBITDA. After we closed the quarter, we further reduced our debt by $175 million as part of our deleveraging program. we are committed to delivering a net leverage ratio of less than three times by the end of fiscal 25 or sooner. Turning to our dividend program, today our board of directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of 25 cents per common share. The record date for the next quarterly dividend is September 1st, 2023, and the payment date is September 22nd, 2023. The annualized dividend increases to $1 per share subject to quarterly board approvals. Turning to our targets and aspirations. We present our business on a constant currency basis for our quarterly factors, targets, and aspirations. Our Q1 fiscal 24 quarterly factors on page 21 of the investor presentation. On a year-over-year basis, we expect revenue of 1.36 billion to 1.41 billion, reflecting Q1 seasonality. ARR of 1.09 billion to 1.13 billion. Adjusted EBITDA year-over-year margin percentage down 250 to 350 basis points, again, reflecting micro focus integration costs. As mentioned earlier, we view and plan our business on an annual basis and quarters will vary. Specifically on free cash flows, we are confident in our annual target of 800 to 900 million. Q1 is expected to be neutral to slightly negative as a result of interest, special charges, and integration costs, as well as seasonally lower working capital at the start of a fiscal year. Starting from Q2, we expect free cash flow growth on a year-over-year basis in each subsequent quarter. Our fiscal 24 targets and constant currency are provided in page 20 of our investor presentation. We look for enterprise cloud bookings growth to grow 15% plus year-over-year. Cloud revenues up 6% to 8%. Customer support revenues up 40% to 42%. ARR up 24% to 26%. Total revenues of 5.85 billion to 5.95 billion, representing growth of 30% plus. Non-GAAP gross margin range, 77 to 79%. Adjusted EBITDA range, 36 to 38%. At current exchange rates, FX would be a revenue tailwind of approximately 40 to 60 million. Our fiscal 26 aspirations remain unchanged, and these are included in page 24 of our investor presentation. And let me turn to the financial integration framework update on page 22 of the investor presentation. We have actioned $260 million of our $400 million cost savings with the balance expected to be completed in fiscal 24. We have incurred $6 million of the $70 million integration expense with the balance expected to be completed in fiscal 24. Finally, we have incurred $146 million of the special charges. We expect $180 to $200 million of the remaining micro focus charges and expenses to be incurred in fiscal 24, and the remaining 150 to 190 million in fiscal 25. All of these are outlined on page 22 of the investor presentation. The related initiatives driving these spend include global entity simplification, tax structures, and technology footprint optimization. These are fully reflected in our targets and aspirations. Turning to our free cash flow, we are reaffirming our fiscal 24 free cash flow target range of 800 to 900 million and our fiscal 26 aspirations of 1.5 billion plus. Our fiscal 26 FCS aspirations are more than double our fiscal 23 free cash flow for the year. In summary, we are very pleased with our outstanding Q4 and full year performance. Our enhanced global size and scale enables us to deliver stellar metrics for gross margin, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flows driven by innovation and growth. On behalf of OpenText, I would like to thank our shareholders, loyal customers, and partners. To the OpenText team members, you have proudly delivered great milestones for fiscal 23 and put us in a position for an outstanding fiscal 24. I'm looking forward to that exciting journey ahead. I will now request the operator to open the call for questions.

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and 1 under touchtone telephone to join the question queue. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please ensure you lift the handset before pressing any keys. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question comes from Richard Chee of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Oh, yes. Thanks for taking my question here. Matthew, on slide 22, when you talk about sort of these special charges, if I kind of look at the prior deck from the prior quarter, it looks like it's sort of gone up here a little bit. And just wondering if you maybe unpack that for us a little bit just to explain sort of why that increased here.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. In fact, if you look at a couple line items, we have actually gone down on the integration expense by about $10 million. And we've expanded the range to about 40 million of the special charges. And again, these are the current estimates for the global entity simplification, tax structures, et cetera. So yes, through fiscal 25, it's a net increase of about 30 million.

Okay. Thank you. You know, it's probably a little bit too early for this, but obviously it seems like you're doing quite a good job in terms of this integration with Micro Focus. As I look at your aspirational guidance going forward to, let's say, fiscal 26, I'm assuming here it does not include any acquisitions. So just kind of wondering if you can maybe help us understand your thoughts and process around annual capital deployment targets when it comes to acquisitions. Do you look at it that way, or how should we think about that?

Yeah, Richard, Mark here, and thank you for the question. At present, we're very focused on returning Micro Focus to organic mode this year, a year ahead of schedule. And that's certainly where our energy is. Second, as I noted, we have a large role to play in AI, and we intend to play it. So our focus, and we had in parallel a large set of announcements today, about OpenText.ai, our strategy and roadmap for AI, announced a new product line called Aviators, and discussion of our initial six aviators that we expect to be available for sale next quarter. And within that framework, our R&D investments are between 14% to 16% of revenues this year. So we're very focused on delivering to our F24 aspirations, F26. And as you note, those are all organic. And certainly as we approach our under 3X leverage, we'll certainly consider if we want to do acquisitions. But right now, we're focused on capturing the organic opportunity for us. And I'd also note on capital return, we brought a dividend up as well. to $1 annualized per share.

Okay, great. And just my last question, do you use Aviator within Open Tech's current operations? I'm just really trying to understand, and maybe the use cases there, and I guess related, do you kind of see that having an impact in terms of the operating model, if that's the case, you're using Aviator within the company?

Oh, how much time do we have, Richard? So, yeah, our announcements today are around our initial product offering and our our strategy and direction there's a lot in there how we're going to use idle as a way to translate information into useful vectors and metadata how we use vertica as the vector database not other people's technology our technology how we're going to bring embedding technologies in from open source and we're going to be poly model we're going to support highly specialized language models for highly specialized jobs. We're talking about enterprise AI here, not consumer AI. And language models will be highly specialized. So our focus is getting that initial product to market, doing that in a private trusted way as well in our private cloud, and elevating IDLE and Vertica and Magellan. If you just allow me for a moment, if we think of the role automation has played in the enterprise over the last 20 years, before ERP suites got integrated, G&A expense was up to 20% of P&Ls. Automation knocked G&A into the mid single digits. AI is different than automation, but AI is the next transformative aspects for enterprises. We will use Aviator to transform our own business over time. Initial areas that we'll consider, support. Just as I talked about our ITOM aviator, our ability to transform level one support. We have opportunities in our professional services of how we will generate code. We have opportunities how our engineers can transform how they test. So we'll have a whole, you know, Richard, we'll speak more and more about how we'll apply aviators to our business and how we'll transform our cost structure and how we'll transform the revenue side, RFPs and sales. We have, you know, 20 years of RFP history, 200,000 RFPs. We'll put them in our vector database. We'll apply a language model and generate the best information out of it. So that will come in time. But right now, we're announcing our strategy, our vision, our direction, our initial products, our initial R&D investment, and then we will apply it to ourselves as well through time.

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you. The next question comes from Steve Enders of Citi. Please go ahead.

Hi, this is George Kurosawa on for Steve. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a great quarter. Did want to double click on the enterprise cloud bookings and just get some help on getting confident in the acceleration into next year. Was there any element of deal pushouts from this year into next year that you expect to close? Or I guess just any more color on how you guys are thinking about that?

George, happy to. And thanks for being on the call today. So just to recap the numbers, Our cloud bookings in F23 were 9.5%, which we've already talked about, Q1, Q2, Q3. In Q3, our bookings were constant at 108 million. In Q4, we had a strong bookings quarter, 164 million, up 12% year over year. And so Q4 bookings was 164 million. And we got solid momentum to get to the 15% plus. And so that's based on pipeline, based on deals. So, I mean, the difference between 12% and 15%, I wouldn't point to push deals at all. Our momentum is up. So we delivered $164 million in Q4, up 12%, and we got solid momentum to get to the 15% plus.

Got it. Super helpful. And then just on the Aviator announcement, a really exciting set of products. Maybe just any color on the kind of go-to-market and monetization strategy here. Is there anything kind of unique or I guess, you know, what would you kind of highlight there?

Yeah, I would say two things. There's two pricing models sort of emerging in the market. You certainly have Microsoft I think O365, you have Copilot, ChatGBT, GitHub, GitLab. You know, they're ranging from $10 to $30 per user per month. And that sort of makes sense to me. You have kind of the other spectrum where you see Google pricing and others in the enterprise sort of based on process tokens. So, you know, when we... turn GA in the next quarter. We'll introduce the pricing then. But some aviators will be more oriented towards user pricing per month and the market sort of setting the rate right now, right, between $10 to $30. And there will be other parts of what we do based more on sort of consumption. And our business network, by the way, is priced on what we call kilo characters, which is the same thing as tokens. So When we deliver in 23.4, we'll announce the pricing, and we'll probably have two models built for each aviator, one user-based. Again, the market is between $10 to $30 per user per month, and we'll have some aviators more oriented towards consumption, either based on kind of tokens or kilo character. But we've thought through it, and we'll get the right pricing for the right aviator.

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

The next question comes from Kevin of Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Hey there. Good evening. Just maybe one for me. Just on the micro focus, returning to organic growth a little bit faster, how do we think about that in conjunction with the F24 guidance, which correct me if I'm wrong, but I think on the top end it came down a little bit from the preliminary guide that you gave in the last quarter. Can you just talk about maybe perhaps what you're seeing in OTEC's core to lead to that result. Thanks.

Yeah, thanks, Kevin. Thanks for the question, and thanks for being on the call today. Just to recap the numbers, right, in fiscal 23, our total company organic growth was 1.2%, or 40 million of new organic revenues we added in the year. So, you know, percents on top of percents can be tricky. But just real simple, organically we grew 1.2%. We're committed to showing you that annually. Or said differently, we added 40 million of new revenues. Our target for 24 is 1 to 2%, but on a much larger base. So that's 45 million to 90 million of new organic revenues in fiscal 24, because it's on a much higher base, if you will. So that's up to 90 million, almost 100 million revenues of new revenues here in fiscal 24. And as I said in my script, we have no aviator revenues built in our model yet, and until we have the revenue signals, we're not going to add it. Look, we expect all our product lines to grow, and we expect, you know, I don't like speaking this way, but I'll say it this way. We're clearly expecting micro focus to return to organic growth, And base open text, they have organic growth as well, both having organic growth. And again, the 1% to 2% for fiscal 24 is up to $90 million of new revenues, and we added $40 million of new revenues last year.

Yeah, and Kevin, if I could just share just one last point in addition to what Mark said, the last print versus this print to your point, please make note of the FX tailwind we have, slide number 20. And the midpoint there is about $50 million.

Got it. Okay. Thanks a lot. I'll pass the line. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. The next question comes from Paul Treiber of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thanks for taking the question.

Just, you know, given your comments in the prepared remarks, you know, Micro Focus is doing much better than you expected. Fundamentally, why is that? What has changed with the business? And then I might have missed in the prepared remarks, but did you comment on renewal rates for Micro Focus this quarter and how that's been trending?

Paul, happily, and thanks for being with us today. So two things. We're executing. I'll wind the tape back. We're experienced acquirers. experienced integrators. We had a vision around how to integrate the company and return it to organic growth, and we're executing to it. And it's fundamentals, right? We've released a product roadmap that's giving customers confidence, and the confidence is back. We've integrated the renewals teams to the open text practices, the renewals practices. We've done our work with the field where our The field sells new. They don't sell renew. We've gotten our systems aligned. And so we ended fiscal 23 with micro focus renewals in the mid 80s, up from the low 80s. And we're on a trajectory to get the renewals to the high 80s this year. And we've also announced our roadmap for the cloudification of Micro Focus. We've delivered our first products, and actually we announced the first win here, right, of BNP for Value Edge in the cloud. And you can see in the investor deck, 23.3, 23.4, 24.1, just a continued pace of more cloudification, right? We transformed Documentum into the cloud, right? We will transform Micro Focus into the cloud. So it's those fundamentals that are giving us the confidence plus the pipeline plus our execution that will return micro focus to organic growth this year. And I'm going to show you every quarter along the way and showing you the numbers.

And in regards to Aviator, you sound very excited about the opportunity there and the product. How do we think about sizing it? And I know you're not giving it an outlook, but how do we compare it to some of the the products you've had in the past, you know, you've had Magellan in the past, you've had other large product launches in the past, you know, how do we think about the magnitude in terms of the opportunity for Aviator?

Yeah, I'm not ready to put a TAM on it, all right? So it's a fair question. We're not ready to put a TAM on it. But as I said in my remarks, I believe it to be a significant long-term opportunity. And we're going to go after it the open text way. Fundamental innovation. We're going to deliver. We're going to show you the signals along the way for sort of predicting those. And we don't have any aviator revenues built into our, any revenue built into our F24 model yet. So I think it's going to be relevant for every customer. It's going to be an independent set of products. It's clear that what automation did for the enterprise, I'm going to make the distinction AI can do for the enterprise. And you need automation. And the better the automation, the better the data. The better the data, the better the AI. We're extremely well positioned where we've been managing large data sets for thousands of customers and content. We are well positioned where we've been managing Billions of business network transactions. We're well positioned where we have the software and testing scripts in ADM. We're well positioned in ITOM with IT assets. So we're in the places where you can create value in the enterprise. The McKinsey report, I think, is great because their AI report, they have a nice grid of the places of the enterprise that are going to be impacted. You look up and to the right, it's the developer, it's content, it's contracting. It's the things I've just mentioned. So I'm not ready to put a TAM on it. Our products, our initial aviators, will be available next quarter. It'll be a showcase, obviously, in Vegas. And we'll announce our pricing and spend a little more time talking about the TAM. when the product comes to market next quarter.

Just one last question for me. Madhu, in regards to tax, can you speak to the slope in the tax rate to 26? Obviously, it's a big jump to mid-20% from 14%. And then does that reflect, what's driving that increase? And does it reflect the global minimum tax?

Yeah, so a few things. First of all, as we end up using up the Canadian attributes, and we've talked about this before, towards the end of fiscal 2024, that plays a role in the creep-up of the rates. Now, you slap in micro focus in here. Again, we're not talking about strategic tax initiatives. There's no immediate sort of relief from the statutory tax rate. We're absolutely using the UK attributes of micro focus, but micro focus is a taxpayer on the US front. and so is OpenText. So really the slope you're seeing is sort of the utilization expiry of the Canadian attributes for OpenText and adding on the US tax attributes for Micro Focus. Again, as I said, we will spend the next 12 to 18 months strategizing the next wave of tax optimization, but that is not factored in the slope you're referring to.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Stephanie Price of CIBC. Please go ahead.

Hi, good afternoon. Hi, Stephanie.

Welcome to the call.

Thank you. Thanks for the additional details on the revenue from each of the divisions and the breakout between the different content management, security, et cetera. Just wanted to dig a little bit deeper into that. If you think about the mix of the different high-value businesses, if you look at into fiscal 26 and beyond, Which of the businesses do you see as growing above the company's typical growth rate, and where do you really see the most opportunity here out of the high-value businesses you've pointed out?

Thanks, Stephanie. Thanks for the question. You know, they each have their dynamics. Let me just start with, you know, we promised to provide more visibility into each of the high-value businesses on slide 17. of the investor presentation, you can see content at 45%, cybersecurity at 20%, application automation 10%, business network 15%, IT ops 5%, AI and analytics 5%. I'm not getting down into growth rates for each one of them, so I'm not gonna do that today. But we have clear opportunity in AI and analytics as we've talked about today, just clear opportunity. IT operations management. I'm very pleased with the private cloud and SaaS products that we're bringing to market. I think we have a significant opportunity there. And everyone needs cybersecurity. So we've been talking about kind of winning each of these value stacks, right? And having select programs across all the value businesses. Cybersecurity is is an effort underway across all the value businesses. So as they say, I love all my children. They're each unique. But, you know, AI and analytics, obviously significant opportunity, very optimistic on IT ops, cybersecurity, a deep opportunity. And an interesting thing about AI, you know, again, you have automation different than AI. And for customers to take advantage of AI, they need to be on some cloud platform, private or public. They need to consolidate their automation and then take advantage of that enriched data through AI. And therefore, I believe that content management has a... has opportunity to continue to grow because there's more automation and more consolidation into that.

Great. Thank you very much.

Yep. Thank you.

The next question comes from of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good afternoon. Mark, can you update us on where you stand as far as sales integration? And have you started to see any early cross-selling or early days on that front?

Yeah, we're complete, Thanos. And Thanos, thank you for joining us today. I'd like to have you on the call. We're kicked off July 1. Salesforce fully integrated. Single global accounts team. We go to market by buyer. We've completed all our count assignments, singular comp plan, we're integrated. And all that work was completed and implemented July 1. We have a single Salesforce compensation system as well as an example. The areas, so we're complete. The second piece is the select cross-selling. And again, security, top of the list. Idle, top of the list as well. And so as part of our kickoff, which was just a couple weeks ago, we laid out training for everybody. So it is early days on the cross-selling, but we're really focused on two areas. It's security and it's metadata and AI tools.

Great. And then as far as leveraging your open text channel partnerships with respect to the micro products, how's that progressing?

Well, we're very focused on sort of the top of the pyramid, which we announced earlier this year, the next generation of our partner program. We now call it the Open Text Partner Network, or OPN. And top of that pyramid are our top 10, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, SAP, Salesforce, DXC, Accenture, TCS, and a few others. That work is beginning to kind of speak holistically to Google, holistically to DXC, holistically to Accenture. So still early days, but we've done the work to say these are the top ten and we're going to kind of pick key opportunities in each of them. Let me take an example. We had a great partnership with Google. at OpenText. We're going to work together on mainframe modernization and moving more workloads into the Google Cloud. We had a great relationship with AWS, hosting a lot of our SaaS products. Again, bringing application automation into the AWS relationship. So there's high synergies. We're focused on the top 10, and the work's begun.

Yeah, that's the line. That's the line.

The next question comes from Adhir Kadhvi of AT Capital. Please go ahead.

Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the Aviator product as well. Can you just give us a sense of your conversations with customers, Mark? Are they excited for what this product could do for their business? I mean, we, of course, we hear that these products are just going to increase productivity. But are customers ready to deploy these products? And just based on those conversations, how do you see adoption going for these customers as we move past the initial deployment in October?

Yeah, so look, our early conversations informed us deeply. And just 90 days ago, right, we're talking about early conversations. 90 days later, we've announced Aviator. And we've announced Aviator Private Cloud. 90 days from now, we'll have our first aviators in production, if you will, and with good deployment to a few customers as well. So these are our initial strategies, if you will. We're also going to build a practice area. So when I speak about Aviator Private Cloud, we've done We have a couple very unique things that we can bring to market here. We obviously have our tools, IDLE, Vertica, Magellan, unique. We don't have to go out and kind of rent those tools for others. We own them. The second unique thing is our managed services, our private cloud. Customers want to be able to use their data privately, securely. So Aviator private cloud is a strong avenue for our customers already in our private cloud who want to move to our private cloud to use their data privately and train their data privately and not bring it into some public domain. So we're going to build a practice area around this. Just like we have practice areas in business network, practice areas in content, we have practice areas in AI and in language models. So it's early days. We've announced the initial vision and direction. Next set of products coming next quarter, and we'll keep you updated along the way.

Thanks, Mark. Just for my second question to piggyback on Thanos' question, some of those early Micro Focus customers that you onboarded early in the post-the acquisition period, You know, now that they've had a chance to really experience the combined company, the combined offerings that we've spoken about over the past two quarters, what's their initial feedback? And do you find that those initial synergies that you had envisioned are kind of playing out? Of course, I understand early days for that, but just some initial thoughts on that would be great. Thank you.

We're turning them to organic growth this year. So, you know, we... Maybe just to reiterate, confidence is back. Roadmap published. All the key aspects of the integration complete. Cloudification's begun. Renewal rate's up to mid 80s. Pathway to high 80s. Initial wins in the cloud. And the pace of innovation. you can see some of the aviators being square in the middle of micro focus product lines and accelerating a micro focus to organic growth this year. So those are the indicators, right? And don't know much more to add to that, but those are the indicators.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Ramo Lenschow of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you. This is Jeremy on for Ramo. Was just wondering if you could share anything on how the micro focus free cash flow conversion is trending. I know that that was a point of opportunity when the acquisition closed and was just curious if you can maybe talk about any improvement there. Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely. It's Madhu here. Thanks for the question. So a couple of things. One, as we've shared, I'll start with the adjusted EBITDA. The adjusted EBITDA in Q4 was 28%, up five percentage points from although Q3 was only two months. And also fundamentally, the question was asked in terms of integration and even what are the reasons therefore. I will take all that Mark said in terms of product market customers to the working capital and the operational side. They have a strong customer base and as we applied our own operational rigor, the team were very receptive, and you saw that. So I would say, starting with adjusted EBITDA, we improved the working capital, and that is really where you see, from a free cash flow perspective, they positively contributed. So again, I'll answer the question in the second part as well. As you look into fiscal 24, what we saw, the adjusted EBITDA in Q4 will continue, and I see continued improvement in the working capital performance. And all of that adds to our confidence in the 800 to 900 million for 24.

Perfect. Thank you.

The next question comes from Stephen Lee of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Hey, Mark, Madhu. I've got a quick one on organic growth in Q4. So if I take the 602 from Micro Focus out of Q4, I get a slight negative organic growth for Q4 for open tax at constant currency. Given this is Q4, which is probably a stronger quarter for you guys, should we not have seen a stronger organic performance? And maybe any soft areas you want to call out, Mark?

Yeah, so Steven, I mean, I'll take that. So when you look at Q4 and you take out, you know, micro focus, we are not seeing the negative organic growth. We are seeing positive organic growth as I shared and happy to walk through the numbers if it will be helpful. but the numbers are all there. So I'll just say for Q4, when you factor in micro focus, we are positively growing organic growth, cloud, as well as ARR in constant currency. Again, I want to emphasize that.

OK. Yeah, I mean, I'm just taking the reported numbers and minus six or two, and it's lower than last year.

yeah so when you take out the like the 602 again as you see license from a constant currency perspective is down from a from a from a year over year in the quarter and cloud is positive organic growth customer support is positive organic growth arr is positive organic growth as well okay oh okay and and then just maybe a housekeeping um i do uh i couldn't try needing the mdna but did you actually disclose micro focus uh

different revenue lines like license, maintenance, and PS. I think you did that last quarter. Thanks.

Yes, we did. And I can share with you offline the page number of the 10K. We did call out the cloud services. I mean, I'm sorry, we called out the license. We also called out the customer support number for Micro Focus as well.

Okay, I'll get it assigned for you. Thanks.

Okay, absolutely. Thank you.

The next question comes from Daniel Chan of TD Cohen. Please go ahead.

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