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spk01: Good morning, and welcome to People's Bank Corp Inc's conference call. My name is Betsy, and I will be your conference facilitator. Today's call will cover a discussion of the results of operations for the quarterly and fiscal year ended December 31st, 2022. Please be advised that all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then 1 on your telephone keypad, and questions will be taken in the order they are received. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. This call is also being recorded. If you object to the recording, please disconnect at this time. Please be advised. that the commentary in this call will contain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding people's future financial performance or future events. These statements are based on management's current expectations. The statements in this call, which are not historical facts, are forward-looking statements and involve a number of risks and uncertainties detailed in People's Securities and Exchange Commission filings. Management believes the forward-looking statements made during this call are based on reasonable assumptions within the bounds of their knowledge of people's business and operations. However, it is possible actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements. People disclaim any responsibility to update these forward-looking statements after this call, except as may be required by applicable legal requirements. People's fourth quarter 2022 earnings release was issued this morning and is available at peoplesbankcorp.com under investor relations. A reconciliation of the non-generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP financial measures discussed during this call to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included at the end of the earnings release. This call will include about 20 to 25 minutes of prepared commentary. followed by a question and answer period, which I will facilitate. An archived webcast of this call will be available on peoplesbankcorp.com in the investor relations section for one year. Participants in today's call will be Chuck Celerezki, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Katie Bailey, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, and each will be available for questions following opening statements. Mr. Celaresti, you may begin your conference.
spk02: Thank you, Betsy. Good morning, and we appreciate you joining our call today. We are pleased to report that our net income totaled $26.8 million for the fourth quarter, or $0.95 in diluted earnings per share. For the full year, our net income more than doubled compared to 2021 to $101.3 million, or $3.60 in diluted EPS. This is record annual net income for our company. Our fourth quarter results included several highlights. We had record quarterly total revenue compared to prior periods of over $90 million, which was nearly $3 million higher than the linked quarter. We were able to expand our fourth quarter net interest margin by 27 basis points compared to the linked quarter as we closely managed our deposit costs while our yields improved. We had annualized loan growth of 8% compared to the linked quarter. We lowered our reported efficiency ratio to 56.7% compared to 57.2% for the linked quarter. We generated positive operating leverage compared to the linked quarter. For the full year of 2022, we grew our total revenues by 37%, while growing our expenses by 13% compared to 2021, resulting in positive operating leverage. We had record pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue as a percent of total average assets, which was 2.06% for the fourth quarter and 1.77% for the full year of 2022. Our return on average stockholder equity grew to 13.9% compared to 12.9% for the linked quarter and was 12.7% for the full year of 2022 compared to 7.2% for 2021. Our fourth quarter return on average assets improved six basis points from the linked quarter to 1.51% and we maintained our fourth quarter total non-interest expense excluding acquisition related expenses within the range we previously had guided. Our allowance for credit losses was relatively flat compared to the linked quarter and was down 17% from the prior year end. Provision for credit losses was $2.3 million for the fourth quarter, which negatively impacted diluted EPS by $0.06. For the full year, we had a release of provision totaling $3.5 million, which added $0.10 to diluted EPS. Our allowance for credit losses has grown in recent quarters due to the deterioration in macroeconomic conditions within the underlying forecast coupled with loan growth. We have also experienced improvements in our reserves for individually analyzed loans, which have partially offset the increases. Our allowance for credit losses stood at 1.1% of total loans at quarter ends. slightly lower than the linked quarter end, and a decrease from 1.4% at prior year ends. Moving on to our loan portfolio, for the fourth quarter, we grew balances by $96 million, or 8% annualized, compared to the linked quarter end. Our largest contributor to the growth was our consumer indirect loans, which increased $37 million, or 25% annualized. We had significant growth We had significant growth in our leasing balances, which were up $32 million, or 41% annualized. Our construction loans increased $31 million, or 58% annualized, while commercial and industrial loans were up $15 million, or 7% annualized. Compared to year-end 2021, we had organic loan growth of 5%. We doubled our organic lease balances, which were up $133 million compared to year-end 2021. Consumer indirect loans increased 19% compared to December 31, 2021, while construction and premium finance loans each had 17% growth. The 5% annual organic growth is on the low end of our 5% to 11% historic annual growth rate since 2013. We continue to have high production levels, which exceeded our 2021 production. We had some headwinds during the year with payoffs. Some of these payoffs were desired to improve our concentrations and overall credit quality. During the fourth quarter, we were able to return to our historic growth levels. From a credit quality perspective, we had stable metrics compared to the length quarter ends. Non-performing assets as a percent of total assets improved to 63 basis points, which is one basis point lower than the length quarter end and five basis points lower than the prior year end. Our non-performing loans were relatively flat compared to the length quarter end, as declines in loans 90-plus days past due and accruing were offset by higher non-accruals. portion of our loan portfolio considered current stood at 98.6%, which was a slight decline from 98.9% for the linked quarter. Our quarterly annualized net charge-off rate was 18 basis points for the fourth quarter and totaled 16 basis points for 2022. We had some growth in our net charge-offs compared to the linked quarter and experienced most of the increase in leases and consumer indirect loans. Classified loans declined compared to the length quarter end and were driven by $7 million in upgrades and $3 million in payoffs. Our criticized loans grew compared to the length quarter end and were primarily driven by the downgrade of three commercial and industrial relationships. We believe all three relationships will have positive resolution in future months, so we expect the downgrades will be temporary. The increase in criticized loans from these downgrades was partially offset by pay downs of $7 million and upgrades of $8 million compared to the linked quarter ends. We continue to closely monitor our credit quality and take action to reduce exposure and risk where we can. We are confident in the credit quality of our new originations as we focus on maintaining high credit standards. As it relates to our announced merger, We have made a lot of progress thanks to the alignment and cooperation from the limestone team. We continue to be impressed with the organization and prospects and looking forward to closing. We have submitted our proposed applications and documents to our regulators and are in the process of obtaining shareholder approval. At the same time, we have sent teams to limestone locations to ensure a smooth transition and a positive outlook for all associates. Our extensive experience with merger and acquisitions allows us to complete an array of processes quickly, accurately, and efficiently. At this point, we are impressed with the Limestone team and the quality of their talent. We are on track to meet our internal and external deadlines associated with the merger, which we expect to close during the second quarter of 2023. And we are looking forward to putting our teams together to move our combined institution forward. I will now turn the call over to Katie for additional details around our financial performance.
spk00: Thank you, Chuck. Our net interest income continued to grow and was up 5% compared to the linked quarter, and our net interest margin expanded 27 basis points to 4.44%. Our loan and investment yields increased compared to the linked quarter and continued to be positively impacted by the higher market interest rate environments. Accretion income, net of amortization expense from acquisitions was $2.2 million, adding 14 basis points to margin compared to 2.8 million and 16 basis points, respectively, for the linked quarter. Our funding costs were up 12 basis points and were driven by higher borrowing costs and increased borrowing balances while we raised our deposit rates marginally. Our controlled deposit costs which were 19 basis points for the fourth quarter compared to 16 basis points for the linked quarter, have continued to help our margin expand at a high rate in recent quarters. Compared to the prior year quarter, net interest income grew 29% and net interest margin expanded 107 basis points. We continue to see improvement from our core growth in the increases in market interest rates. Quarterly loan yields improved by 116 basis points, while our investment securities yield was 70 basis points higher than the prior year quarter. Funding costs doubled and were tied to higher borrowing costs and balances and the increase in our deposit rate. For the full year, our net interest income grew 47%, while our net interest margin expanded 56 basis points. compared to 2021. The majority of the increase was driven by the premier merger and Vantage acquisition, coupled with organic growth and higher market interest rates during 2022. We are currently in an asset sensitive position as it relates to our balance sheet, and we expect a slight reduction in asset sensitivity once we complete the limestone merger. As it relates to our efficiency ratio, we are pleased that our efforts for reduction have paid off. Our efficiency ratio is 56.7% on a reported basis for the fourth quarter compared to 57.2% for the linked quarter and 62.7% for the prior year quarter. When adjusted for non-core expenses, our efficiency ratio was 55.9%, a decline compared to 56.6% for the linked quarter and 61.5% for the prior year quarter. On a year-to-date basis, we improved our reported efficiency ratio to 59.6% from 73.6% for 2021. The adjusted efficiency ratio was 58.6% compared to 63.5% for 2021. We had positive operating leverage compared to the linked quarter prior year quarter and full year of 2021. The value we find in this measure is identifying if we are growing our revenues faster than our expenses, and we did, both on a reported basis and when adjusted for non-core expenses compared to the prior period. Compared to the linked quarter, our fee-based income declined 4%. While insurance income grew, the overall decrease was driven by lower commercial loan swap fee income, which is included in other non-interested income, along with lower lease and electronic banking income. Compared to the prior year quarter, our fee-based income was down 1%. Lease income grew considerably, totaling $1.3 million compared to $600,000 for the prior year quarter. Our insurance income grew 12% compared to the fourth quarter of 2021 and was positively impacted by our insurance acquisition earlier this year. We also experienced growth in bank-owned life insurance income as we purchased additional policies during 2022 and we had higher deposit account service charges. Our increases were more than offset by declines in mortgage banking and commercial loan swap fee income. which were a result of the high interest rate environment reducing customer demand. For the full year, fee-based income was up 14% compared to the prior year. Our biggest area of growth was deposit account service charges, which was driven by the additional customers from the Premier merger. Lease income grew $3 million compared to 2021, driven by the lease acquisitions. Our electronic banking income increased largely due to higher customer activity in additional accounts from the Premier merger in late 2021. Insurance income increased during 2022 compared to 2021, and mortgage banking income declined due to fewer refinancing and home purchases made by customers related to higher market interest rates in recent periods. Bank-owned life insurance income increased because of the policies purchased during 2022. Moving on to expenses, compared to the linked quarter, total non-interest expense increased 2%. This was driven by higher data processing and software expense, while other non-interest expense and professional fees grew due to recent acquisition-related expenses recorded, which totaled over $700,000 for the quarter. At the same time, we had higher other loan expenses. We were able to offset some of these increases with declines in our electronic banking, franchise tax, and marketing expenses. Compared to the prior year quarter, our total non-interest expense grew 11%. The largest growth was in salaries and employee benefit costs, which was driven by the increases in pay for associates related to merit increases during 2022 coupled with the recent salary increase we completed at the beginning of October for associates making $60,000 or less a year. We had increased expenses due to the addition of associates from the Vantage and Elite acquisitions completed this year. Also contributing to the increase was higher sales and incentive compensation tied to improved performance and production, along with higher medical insurance costs. We recorded higher data processing and software expenses, as well as increased amortization of intangible assets associated with our recent acquisitions. We had additional operating expenses from the Vantage acquisition, which was completed in early 2022. The growth in these expenses was partially offset by lower electronic banking and franchise tax expense. For the full year of 2022 compared to 2021, our total non-interest expense grew 13%. We have been acquisitive in recent periods, which has led to a growth in costs associated with our larger size and footprint over the last year. This has resulted in higher costs reflected through most categories, excluding acquisition-related expenses. Moving on to the balance sheet. We grew our held to maturity investment portfolio by over $150 million from the late quarter end. We have been purchasing bonds that are high yielding with relatively low credit risk as they are issued by government sponsored enterprises. The additional investment in held to maturity investment securities has allowed us to reduce some of our exposure to the swings in accumulated other comprehensive losses that we have been experiencing in our available for sale investment securities. At year end, our investment securities comprise 24.1% of our total assets compared to 23.1% for the linked quarter end and 23.8% for the prior year end. We anticipate that our investment securities as a percent of total assets could decline in future periods as we continued to manage our liquidity position. As Chuck mentioned earlier, we had loan growth of over 996 million or 8% annualized since September 30, 2022. Compared to the linked quarter end, our total deposits declined 3%. This was driven by outflows of governmental deposits, which have a seasonal decrease during the fourth quarter of each year. We also had some shrinkage in our non-interest bearing and retail CDs. However, our demand deposits as a percent of total deposits were still at 48% at year end, consistent with the linked quarter end and prior year end. We had some growth in our brokered CD balances, which was a function of our funding process, as these were at a lower price than certain FHLB advances. At year end, the reduction in our deposits put us in an overnight borrowed position. From a capital perspective, we grew our regulatory capital ratios compared to the linked quarter end. At year end, our common equity Tier 1 capital ratio was 12%, total risk-based capital ratio was 13.2%, and the Tier 1 leverage ratio was 8.9%. Each ratio improved by 22 to 28 basis points compared to September 30th, 2022. We have substantially recovered from the decreases in our capital ratios caused by the Vantage acquisition earlier in 2022. Our tangible equity to tangible asset ratio improved to 6.7% from 6.5% at the late quarter end as earnings net of dividends increased our capital coupled with a slight recovery in our accumulated other comprehensive loss. We grew our book value and tangible book value per share by 13% and 25% respectively on an annualized basis compared to the linked quarter. I will now turn the call back to Chuck for additional comments.
spk02: Thank you, Katie. We have improved our performance considerably during 2022. along with reaping the benefits of the market interest rate increases in prior acquisitions. We were recognized by Newsweek as the 2023 Best Small Bank in the State of Ohio. We were also recognized by American Banker as the Best Bank to Work For in 2022. This is the second year in a row we have received this honor, and we are one of only 90 banks to receive the award in 2022. We have positioned ourselves to continue to provide a profitable return for shareholders during 2023, while also expanding our business into larger markets in Kentucky with the pending limestone merger. We have been able to capitalize on our recent mergers and acquisitions, substantially reducing our efficiency ratio, building on our positive operating leverage by growing revenues, while offering state-of-the-art technology to our new clients. As we look to our future, we are refreshing our guidance for 2023, which includes the impact of the pending limestone merger, but excludes the acquisition-related expenses. During 2023, we expect our net interest income to continue to grow to the limestone merger, as well as full-year benefits of higher market interest rates as our loans reprice to the newest rate. We expect net interest margin expansion to slow as we will need to increase our funding costs in future periods. With that being said, we believe net interest margin for 2023 will be between 4.5% and 4.65%, which assumes relatively flat rates for 2023 as compared to year-end 2022. We anticipate loan growth of between 25% and 30%, including the new limestone balances, while we believe our annual organic growth without the acquired loans will be between 5% and 7%. We expect fee-based income percentage growth to be in low double digits compared to 2022, which includes the impact of the pending limestone merger. We anticipate a 20% increase in our total non-interest expense for 2023, excluding acquisition-related expenses compared to the full year of 2022. We expect our efficiency ratio to be between 55% and 57% for the full year, including limestone. We believe we will see an increase of about five basis points in our net charge-off rate during 2023 compared to 2022. We continue to believe we will meaningfully exceed all current analyst EPS estimates for 2023, especially considering our refreshed guidance and the anticipated benefits of the limestone merger. I will note for all four quarters of 2022, we have well exceeded analyst in Census quarterly EPS estimates. As we move into the new year, I wanted to note, as we customarily do, that our first quarter expenses are generally higher due to a few expenses that we typically expect to recognize during the first quarter, which include employer contributions to health savings account, stock-based compensation expense for certain employees, higher payroll taxes, and annual merit increases. We intend to keep our momentum moving into 2023 with a focus on strategically growing our core business while also working to seamlessly integrate the limestone merger. We are making positive progress toward our goals and we'll keep those in the forefront of everything we do in 2023. This concludes our commentary and we will open the call for questions. Once again, this is Chuck Celerewski, And joining me for the Q&A session is Katie Bailey, our Chief Financial Officer. I will now turn the call back into the hands of our call facilitator.
spk01: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two.
spk06: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Brendan Nozzle with Piper Sandler.
spk01: Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, good morning, folks. How are you?
spk01: Great.
spk05: Good morning. Maybe just to start off on the margin here, obviously fantastic performance this year as deposit costs have barely budged. I was hoping for the outlook for next year, if you can kind of walk through the quarterly progression that gets you into that 450 to 465 for the year. I would imagine that some funding costs have to accelerate more meaningfully just to reflect where rates are today. I'm just kind of curious how that moves throughout the year.
spk02: I would just say a couple different things, and then I'll let Katie give her thoughts on it. First off, the value of this franchise is the deposit book, and the low rate environment of the last decade really hasn't given opportunity for that to shine. Rates have gone up 4%, and our deposit costs have gone up five basis points. Yes, you tell me how much more rates are going to go up. My guess would be another half of a point to 25 basis points increases. And, you know, our deposit costs, you know, may go up 10 to 20 basis points more during the course of 23, but not a whole lot more.
spk00: Yeah, the other things I would note are, as it relates to the year-over-year benefit, just from the rates as they rose throughout 22, we'll get the annual benefit of that and quarterly see that come through in 23. Also, the asset mix, changes with our leasing portfolio, which you're well aware has a meaningfully higher yield than our other core bank portfolio. So as we continue to see strong growth in those specialty businesses, we'll see some benefit through margin as well.
spk05: Got it. Okay. And then one more for me. Appreciate the guide on expenses, including limestone. Maybe for those of us who are not yet modeling the deal, could you offer kind of a standalone PIVO cost guide? I think last quarter you said 56 to 58 million per quarter for 23.
spk00: Yeah, I think that's still the core PIVO expectation for 23 on a quarterly basis was the 56 to 58.
spk07: Fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank you.
spk01: The next question comes from Ben Gerlinger with Hope to Group. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, guys. I just had one quick question. I wanted to follow up on that margin. You said 4.5 to 4.65, but Chuck, you also included some things that were inclusive of limestone. Was that margin inclusive of limestone or not?
spk07: Yes.
spk03: And then I appreciate you kind of going through the color of of Fed plus 25 and then assuming another plus 25. I'm just kind of thinking, the 15 basis point spread is pretty big. Is the deposit cost the biggest variable, I guess you could say, between the high end and the low end, or is it more of a mix on the asset side?
spk02: And then what we're paying for alternative funding, too, you know, comes into the equation. I'd tell you I'd lean towards the high side of the range, but Katie will kick me.
spk00: I mean, I think it's, as you pointed out, it's largely contingent about where we see the loan growth and also, too, on the deposit costs, what kind of moves we have to do there as rates rise as well as alternative funding.
spk07: Gotcha. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
spk01: The next question comes from Michael Perito with KBW. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hey, Chuck and Katie. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk01: Hi, Mike.
spk09: I had a couple. I wanted to start, you know, Katie kind of mentioned depends on the loan growth. So just on the loan growth side here, I mean... what are some of maybe the areas that can put you at the higher or lower end of the 5% to 7% range? And then maybe as a follow-up, Chuck, just on the leasing and some of the premium finance, some of the stuff you guys are doing there, I mean, how, if at all, and maybe the answer is it hasn't, but how, if at all, has kind of some of the uncertainty of 2023 and the funding changing environment and everything impacted your kind of near-term outlook for those businesses? Just curious if there's been any kind of change relative to the last time we spoke?
spk02: No, I think the specialty finance businesses are all optimistic on 2023. I would say that some of those leasing businesses will do better. They're almost anti-cyclical in harder times as people lease things as opposed to purchase. We have been, as the script indicated, since 2013, we've grown organically five to 11% every year. You know, last year was tough for us with only 5%. We have in the guidance, you know, the organic pieces being five to seven. I think some of the things that, you know, will determine whether it's at the high end or higher, you know, have to do with, you you know, what happens in the real estate markets with the higher rates? Do people take things to the permanent market, you know, a little bit faster? I think that could impact us, you know, some. But our pipelines are robust. You know, we had a great year of originations in 22. If we can do as well with originations in 23, we'll have simply more growth because we aren't going to see some of the moves we made to improve the portfolio by encouraging some credits to go elsewhere.
spk09: Helpful. And then just kind of big picture, you know, we're hearing on other calls that, you know, that bank M&A has slowed. Obviously, you guys had a bit of activity recently. Just Can you maybe give us an update near term on kind of, you know, the capital priorities for the bank in 23? And, you know, is there a period here where, you know, there's some digestion and some growth of platforms acquired that you guys would like to see occur? Or is there still enough dislocation where there are opportunities that externally that would be enticing for you guys to consider?
spk02: Well, certainly we've been active with M&A, and we see M&A as an important platform part of the business. We do not have plans to do a deal in 2023. But having said that, we talk to banks all the time. And it's analogous to a portfolio manager running a portfolio. You always have to make your contacts. In terms of capital priorities, we have that really robust dividend. and we will retain that. We're blocked out from share buybacks because of the acquisition, although certainly at this price, we think the stocks are steel, and we just would like to continue to build our capital levels.
spk09: Great. And then just lastly for me, I know you guys gave kind of the broader, the guidance and outlook for 23, but you guys have quite a few contributors in that pot. And I'm curious, Chuck, if I had to put you on the spot. I mean, any particular area where you think maybe there could be some upside or some optimism about dislocation or growth opportunities for next year on the non-interest income businesses?
spk02: Well, you know, obviously the stock market has put a dent in our investment business's Last year, you know, we were pretty much neutral from a revenue standpoint. If the market turns around, you know, those earnings will increase. Last year was one of the few years, you know, over my career where you had the double whammy of stocks being down and bonds being off. You know, that's pretty unusual. I don't expect that to happen again this year. And I think our investment business has potential upside.
spk09: Cool. Thank you, guys. I appreciate you taking my questions and hope you're well.
spk07: Hey, thank you.
spk01: The next question comes from Terry McEvely with Stevens. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thanks. Good morning, Chuck. Good morning, Katie. Good morning, Terry. Maybe the first question, have you scheduled a conversion date for limestone? And what I'm getting at is trying to understand kind of the cost savings and what you foresee happening in 2023 and if there's any kind of follow through into 2024.
spk02: Yes, we have a date in August. I think it's August 5th for scheduled for conversion. I will tell you that we will get the vast majority of the expense saves in 23. You know, we'll get some year-over-year benefit in 24. but it's been our history to get the expense saves pretty quickly.
spk08: And then as a follow-up in the press release, I think it was, a favorable funding source was the brokered CDs, and you've done a really good job holding kind of the non-interest-bearing deposits relative to what I've seen across the industry. What's your thoughts on kind of the mix shift of deposits, and will you continue to rely on brokered CDs in your view in 2023?
spk02: It's part of the mix. It's not a dependency by any stretch of the imagination. I'll just reiterate some of the points that were made. A lot of the deposit activity, the decrease was seasonality. We're going to get a great deal of those deposits back in the first quarter. We have a phenomenal deposit book. It's the advantage of being in these communities. that we, you know, that we serve. That, frankly, most of the, you know, many of the competitors have vacated. So it's not by accident.
spk00: And I would just say we evaluate broker in conjunction with our FHLB opportunities for funding and whoever prices best is who gets our business. Okay.
spk08: Understood. And maybe one last question. Have Can you remind me, have you made any changes to your overdraft fees or consumer fees? And if not, are you contemplating anything there?
spk02: We have made a few changes, a few adjustments over the last few years. Nothing substantial. I think we have a change going in that we budgeted that's going to hurt us about $400,000. We continue to examine it. But I don't see anything radical at this point in time.
spk07: Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you. Thank you.
spk01: The next question comes from Manuel Neves with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hey, good morning. Good morning. Where should we think the kind of loan to deposit ratio creeps up to? And where kind of are you thinking you're going to target it over time?
spk02: Well, that's an interesting question. You know, I think it'll continue to go up a couple percent, a quarter. You know, keep in mind that we have the limestone acquisition, you know, coming in. I don't think we will hit the, you know, I don't think we will hit the 90s, you know, this year. I think that, you know, I would like the loan-to-deposit ratio, you know, generally to be in the low to mid-90s. But, you know, again, I think it will improve, but I don't think we'll hit 90. Okay.
spk04: The The lease book has phenomenal yields. It's about 10% this quarter. That should continue to kind of creep up, right? Is that the right way to think about it?
spk00: Yes, it'll go up from there in future quarters. And again, what you've seen over time is some reduction to what we were booking. The North Star acquisition that we did in 2021 had higher yields. That's that micro-ticket book. than what the deal we did in 22 has, which is more of a small mid-ticket book. And so you've seen some reduction based on that shift or the combination of those two portfolios together, but I think the opportunity for 23 is expansion in that yield.
spk04: Okay, that's helpful.
spk07: I'm good for now. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you.
spk01: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then 1 to enter the question queue. The next question is a follow-up from Brendan Nozzle with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thanks. One more follow-up from me on the margin. Could you maybe offer some color on how much in PAAs are underneath that 450 to 465 margin for 23, and then how much of those total PAAs are coming from Limestone?
spk00: Oh, your purchase accounting you're asking about?
spk05: Yeah, how much of that margin is purchase accounting in your thinking?
spk00: Yeah, so we expect that to continue to be in the range of 10 to 15 basis points as we move into 2023 on a quarterly basis.
spk07: Okay.
spk05: I was kind of thinking with limestone, just given the marks from the rate environment, it would be a bigger pickup there. Is that not the case given the pullback in rates? How should I think about that?
spk00: Well, I think you have some runoff of the portfolios that we've already – or the acquisitions we've already done. So you'll see some reduction for the kind of seasoned acquisitions, and then you'll see an offsetting increase for the limestone acquisition. Because by nature, it's going to diminish over time, and so – it stays relatively steady.
spk05: Got it. Okay.
spk07: That's super helpful. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you.
spk06: At this time, there are no further questions.
spk01: Sir, do you have any closing remarks?
spk02: Yes. I want to thank everyone for joining our call this morning. Please remember that our earnings release and a webcast of this call will be archived at peoplesbankcorp.com under the investor relations section. Thank you for your time and have a great day.
spk06: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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