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spk01: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Profire Energy's second quarter 2022 and June 30th, 2022. I will now turn the call over to Stephen Hooser, Investor Relations Advisor for the company.
spk00: Thank you, Operator. With me on the call today is Profire's co-CEO and CFO, Ryan Oviatt, and co-CEO, Cameron Tidball. Yesterday, after the market closed, Profire filed its Form 10-Q with the SEC and discussed this quarter's highlights in a press release. As always, both of those documents are available on the investor section of the company's website. The transcript of this call will be posted in the coming days. Before we begin today's call, I would like to take a moment to read the company's safe harbor statement. Statements made during this call that are not historical are forward-looking statements. This call contains forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements regarding the impact of commodity prices, supply chain challenges, revenue forecasts, diversification, completion of strategic projects, the company's expected growth, investments in R&D, and new products, testing, and sales of new products, the company's exploration of N&A opportunities, and the company's future financial performance. All such forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of facts, results, of performance, or involve risk, assumptions, and the uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from the events or results described in or anticipated by the forward-looking statements. Factors that could materially affect such forward-looking statements include certain economic, business, public market, and regulatory risk factors identified in the company's periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. All forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All forward-looking statements are made only as of the date of this release and the company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, except as required by law. Readers should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay through August 19, 2022, starting later this evening. It will be accessible via a link provided in yesterday's press release, as well as on the company's website at www.profireenergy.com. Following the remarks made by Ryan and Cam, we will open up the call to a question and answer session. Now, I would like to turn the call over to co-CEO and CEO of Profire Energy, Ryan Oviatt.
spk05: Ryan?
spk03: Thank you, Stephen, and we welcome all of you who are joining us on the call today. I will start the call by providing some updates on the industry and our business, followed by a review of the financials, and then I will turn the call over to Cam to discuss some exciting project wins, overall company outlook, R&D progress, and strategic direction. Our second quarter results demonstrate the ongoing progress of our business towards returning to our historical top line run rates through the systematic execution of our business strategy. We have also benefited from a strengthened oil and gas industry and the ongoing global recovery from the pandemic period of the past two years. Revenue, gross profit, EBITDA, and income increased meaningfully compared to the prior year quarter. Sequentially, our results were strong, but were impacted by the ongoing inflation across the business, specifically in direct labor and freight and shipping costs. Despite these headwinds, we posted our fifth consecutive quarter of revenue growth and second straight quarter of post pandemic net profit and positive EBITDA. Oil demand within the US continues to increase as post COVID activity accelerated from the prior year, particularly as we moved into the summer season. Oil prices have pulled back in the past month after retesting highs set in March. However, supplies remain constrained due to sanctions against Russia related to its war in Ukraine and continued regulatory obstacles in the US at the federal and state levels. Despite the pullback, prices remain at their highest level since 2014, leading to an increase in the weekly average rig count, which is almost back to its pre-pandemic level. The continued inconsistent messaging from the current US administration is unlikely to lead to a meaningful increase in activity from E&Ps going forward. Combined with the labor shortages and the delays within the supply chain to obtain the necessary parts to repair or upgrade existing wells and associated production equipment, gas prices are more likely to decrease due to demand destruction related to the recession concerns and consumer budgetary constraints than from the effects of bringing on additional supply. So far this year, the U.S. has reduced its strategic petroleum reserves by 21% in an effort to lower gas prices at the pump, but this has had only a marginal impact so far. The SPR now sits at only 66% of its authorized capacity. In the past week, the Biden administration and the Democrat-controlled Senate have been pushing legislation that includes massive credits, incentives, and funding for converting home appliances and vehicles to electric models. If this legislation passes both the Senate and the House, it will put additional short-term and long-term pressure on the electric grid and electricity supply. As of 2021, 79% of all energy consumed in the United States was generated through fossil fuel. only 19% of all electricity produced in the U.S. was generated through renewable sources. We believe energy diversification over time is possible and necessary, but that oil and natural gas must be an essential part of this transition for many years to come. Because of these pressures, combined with other global challenges on oil and gas supply, we believe commodity prices and prices at the pump will remain high for the foreseeable future which should be positive for our business going forward. With that, let me turn my remarks to provide some additional details on Profire's financial results for the second quarter of 2022. In the quarter, we recognized $9.6 million in revenue compared to $9.5 million in the first quarter and $6 million in the prior year quarter. The year-over-year increase is the combined result of the increased activity related to the ongoing economic recovery, higher oil prices, and consistent execution of our revenue diversification strategy. Gross profit for the quarter was 4.4 million as compared to 4.6 million in the first quarter of 2022 and 3.3 million in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin in the second quarter was 45.7% of revenues compared to 47.9% in the first quarter. The decrease in the current period is due primarily to higher direct labor and freight and shipping costs. Gross margin increased 170 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2021 due to better fixed cost coverage resulting from the higher revenue base. Total operating expenses for the second quarter were approximately 4.3 million compared to 3.9 million in the first quarter and 3.3 million in the second quarter of 2021. The sequential and year-over-year increases reflect the significant inflationary cost pressures on our business, in particular all labor-related costs and travel and vehicle-related expenses. Labor costs are also higher due to our restaffing efforts in response to the industry recovery over the past year. Specifically, G&A expenses for the quarter increased 36% year over year. R&D expense increased 20% from the prior year, also due to inflation on labor and additional certification activity. Depreciation and amortization decreased 4% compared to the same year-ago quarter. Net income for the second quarter was approximately $284,000 or one cent per diluted share. This compares to net income of approximately $627,000 or one cent per diluted share in the first quarter and a net loss of $397,000 or one cent per share in the second quarter of last year. Cash flow from operations in the second quarter was a positive $1.8 million compared to a negative $265,000 in the prior year quarter. This quarter's increase was due to operating cash flows and normal movements in working capital balances. During the quarter, we repurchased an additional 451,000 shares of our common stock for approximately $611,000. This completed our $2 million repurchase authorization from last September. In total, we repurchased more than 1.6 million shares, or roughly 3.4% of shares outstanding when the repurchase program began. The average purchase price was $1.22 per share. We continue to evaluate future repurchase plans as part of our ongoing capital allocation strategy. Our inventory balance at the end of the second quarter was approximately 9.3 million, up from 7.7 million at the end of the first quarter and 7.2 million at the end of 2021. We continue to experience inventory delivery disruptions related to supply chain issues. However, our ongoing efforts to get inventory in the door should allow us to support our customers and address our backlog of orders over the coming quarters. I will now turn the call over to Cam to provide an overview of our business. Cam.
spk05: Thank you, Ryan.
spk04: As mentioned previously, Profire's Q2 results represent five consecutive quarters wherein we have achieved growth in top line revenue. Though Q2 results were relatively flat, this is primarily due to supply chain constraints and resulting impacts on available inventory as opposed to a slowing or a softening in customer demand. The Q2 results were in line with our comments from the previous earnings call. Our opportunity pipeline continues to strengthen, and backlog of business has grown to historic levels. Although we will continue to face supply chain challenges, we remain confident in our ability to manage through this and to create continued momentum for top-line revenue growth and profitability. We have begun to see increased inventory from the strategic orders placed at the start of this year. Shipments are arriving at our facilities on a more regular basis, which will help us chip away at the sales order backlog in the second half of the year. Our sequential improvement, as well as our strong opportunity pipeline, demonstrate ongoing progress in our traditional markets as well as in our strategic diversification initiatives. Profire technology and solutions remain the market leader in the upstream, midstream, and downstream transmission energy segments. Our market share in these business lines continues to grow as evident from our robust backlog. The key drivers that impact demand from our customers in our traditional end markets include commodity pricing, rig count, well completion, and North American oil and gas production. During the quarter, the WTI price per barrel was $108, which is a 14% increase from the previous quarter and a 64% increase from the 2021 Q2 average. The combined onshore rig count for the US and Canada averaged 810 in the quarter, which is down 1% from the previous quarter, primarily driven by the normal seasonality in the Canadian market. Overall, the onshore rig count is up 59% as compared to the same quarter of 2021, or a 36% increase as compared to the 2021 full-year average. The U.S. drilled but uncompleted well count, or duck count, continued to decrease to 4,245 at the end of the quarter. Remaining ducks at the end of Q2 represent a 52% drop from its peak count in June of 2020. Additionally, we believe hydrocarbon-based energy is a requirement to meet global energy demand. The United States and Canada continue to lead the world in clean and ethical production of oil and natural gas. The industry will continue to face headwinds However, we are encouraged by an increased pushback from industry leaders promoting the benefits of this valuable resource. We expect North American oil and gas production to continue to ramp as demand continues to increase. U.S. shale oil production is forecasted to grow by 1.4 million barrels per day in 2022 as compared to year-end 2021. with an additional 1 million barrels per day increases in 2023 and 2024. Due to the tight supply of drilling and completion goods and services, we expect moderate increases through the second half of 2022. Based on this data and indications from our customer base, we remain confident that Profire is positioned well to continue our success into the second half of 2022 and beyond. Our existing size and operating structure is positioned to support this forecasted growth with minimal headcount additions. Our solutions continue to bring value to our customers as we support critical imperatives related to safety, operational efficiency, and environmental protection. As an update to our strategic diversification initiatives, we continue to gain traction and win projects related to large midstream plants and alternative industries. We are encouraged by the results here to date. The projects we have completed and the sales orders we have received in Q2 are planned to be completed in the third and fourth quarters of this fiscal year. We continue to add customers and are in repeat business for heater applications found at large stream midstream plants. Based on our current run rate and the opportunity pipeline, we expect to be able to more than double 2021 revenue in this growth segment in 2022. Currently, we are tracking to exceed $1.5 million in this segment alone for the fiscal year. Turning to R&D, we remain focused on strategic investments in our research and product development initiatives, which will contribute to our near, mid, and long-term success. Implementing this balanced strategy aims at bringing solutions to our current customers and industry, as well as preparing for the future needs of tomorrow's customers. We continue to conduct research related to potential solutions to further improve efficiency and lower emissions of heated appliances. We believe these efforts will support our customers' ESG initiatives relating to lowering their overall GHG emissions and methane intensity. Last quarter, we announced that we had begun field trials and beta testing of a profile developed solution focused on solving a significant pain point that our upstream, midstream, and downstream transmission customers experience related to the collection and reporting of real-time carbon emissions data. This solution also provides a low-cost, effective remote monitoring solution for isolated appliances without telemetry connections. We continued product trials through Q2 and are optimistic about the continued interest and valuable feedback we have received. During the quarter, we continued development on the user experience as well as other integration requirements. We expect to begin quoting and strategic sales activities in the third quarter. We look forward to keeping you up to date on this exciting initiative that has the potential to provide Profire with a recurring revenue stream. I'm excited to report on and give an update on some new project wins. In Q1, we closed our largest non-oil and gas deal in the history of Profire. In the second quarter, we were able to surpass this achievement as we were successful on winning a significant renewable natural gas project. Repeat business, increased presence and interest in our solutions in renewable natural gas, biogas, metal manufacturing, food and beverage, LNG, and landfill continue to add credibility to Profire in this growth segment. On our Q1 call, we announced that we expected to achieve triple-digit revenue growth year over year related to this diversification initiative. Based on Q2's performance and the projects we expect to close in the coming quarters, we now expect to reasonably exceed the $1 million annualized run rate we referenced in our Q1 forecast. Our sales team continues to gain confidence and valuable contacts in new industries. We are able to leverage our service team members' expertise and technical prowess as we execute projects in these industries. Our project execution team members exceed customer expectations on design, documentation, and delivery. The overall experience with Profire is proving to be a strong differentiator in these exciting new markets. The future remains bright for Profire and our shareholders. Our team is strong, creative, and committed. We are executing on our strategic growth initiatives. Drivers of our traditional business are pointing in our favor. We are seeing early and positive returns to our investment in our diversification endeavors. Investment in product and solution development continues to be paramount to our future. We continue to be diligent in looking for and assessing partnerships, and potential mergers and acquisitions as part of our overall capital allocation strategy. Before we turn to questions, Ryan and I thank each of you. Our team members astound us with their commitment to our vision, mission, and success. We thank our shareholders for their confidence in us as management and in the team at Profire. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to start the question and answer session.
spk01: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. The first question comes from Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk06: Good morning, Ryan and Kim.
spk02: Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is kind of the non-oil and gas business and some of the large order momentum there. You have some pretty good color, but just wanted to get a sense of how is that kind of moving beyond the early trial phase and into sort of kind of a regular deployment or how, where do you see that in terms of development at this point and how do you expect it to sort of play out for the next year or two?
spk03: Great question, Rob. We certainly are excited about what we're seeing in that part of the business. and the momentum that we're getting there. But I'll let Cam provide greater detail on the color there.
spk04: Yeah, you bet. I would say we're getting to the point now where we have more of a, we're starting to get repeat business. So existing customers, and we're getting some word of mouth traction. We're getting people who have moved from, to a degree, sometimes moved from the oil and gas industry, have moved into other types of businesses who know us. That's a small part of it, but it has actually played a part in our success. So overall, I would say, yes, we're still getting our foot in the door with new industries. We're not probably on everybody's bid list yet. That's going to be a long-term project for us to get to that point. But just the vastness of the market and how many different industries have heated application projects And really, the inability of what I would call the current incumbent to deliver and the fatigue that really what we're hearing from all these new customer relationships is this is a great opportunity for change for people. And so far, I mentioned in the comments on the call here, some of the project feedback we get on our deliverables, I would say we're definitely... playing at a level bigger than we are, but the quality of the work coming from the team and then the performance of the product and the service backing has really, really helped us, and I think it'll lead to future business and repeat business with a lot of these customers.
spk05: Okay, great. Thank you for that.
spk02: And then on the traditional oil and gas side of the business, You mentioned a number of cross-currents going on, but overall, how would you characterize the demand environment and demand trends right now? Is it coming back cautiously, or do you see that maybe loosening up over time as the prices stay high here? What's the more recent demand trends?
spk05: Yeah, I can tackle that one.
spk04: If you look at You know, you look right now and you see all the news of the day and what might come through from the Manchin deal and gas prices, they've come down 50 days in a row, I think, now in terms of at the pump. Demand is a little curtailed. But, you know, oil's lost a lot of the gains it got from the Ukraine crisis. Overall, if you look at drilling, yes, it was down just slightly, but since that point, it's up here in the quarter. We fully believe that our future looks quite bright. As I mentioned, all the metrics that we look at that drive our legacy traditional core business are in our favor. We all know that can change overnight, but for the most part, the demand from our customers, it's been very steady this year. We are seeing that backlog we talked about grow to levels that are a lot more comforting for Profire and our ability to plan the business, plan inventory strategies, plan people power. It's a good situation for us. That being said, there isn't the other... accompanying services that are needed to expand drilling drastically. We've all heard, well, there's 9,000 permits out there right now from the current administration. Well, yeah, there is, but in every administration, there are thousands of permits that are out there. You just can't flip the switch, especially at a time where the industry, like every other industry, has a lack of skilled, trained labor, a lack of horsepower, a lack of drilling and completion products and related goods. So we still look at the second half of the year based on our forecast and what we're hearing from customers to be still a little bit more of an uptick. And as we mentioned on the call where I mentioned, we're starting to get more inventory in, which is great. We've been planning for it. We've committed the capital to inventory, and that should bode well for us to be able to, one, chip away at the backlog, but also take care of new demand.
spk05: Thank you.
spk06: I'll turn it over.
spk01: The next question comes from John White with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thank you, operator. Congratulations, guys. Very nice quarter. Can you talk a little bit more about the carbon capture product and tell us a little bit more about what it is and how it works?
spk04: Yeah, definitely could talk to that. So it's not so much a carbon capture product. So my apologies if we led you to think that. It's more about... capturing the reporting surrounding an appliance and the carbon footprint or the methane intensity that it has. So right now, we believe that the hydrocarbon industry in North America is vastly overstating what their current emissions are. And it's because there is not an easy way to really report that. Or maybe they're sandbagging. We don't know for sure. But what our product aims to do is several things. But one of the items is that we feel that we can capture the actual emissions of a naturally drafted heater, which is our prime and core traditional business. And there are ways to do it, but we've done it through a software solution with some minimal hardware. And we can take that and provide that reporting data if the producer so chooses us to take it. And we've mentioned before that some of our early indications show that our customers are emitting a lot less than they are currently reporting that they're emitting. So this will all fit into their strategy and how they want to show that they're making progress to their, whether it's net zero or just reduction of emissions. But it also has, our product also has the ability to go on non-heated appliances that are remote, that are critical in process. So for example, in the transmission and pipeline business, there are a lot of regulator stations which are out there that are heated with a technology that's not a burner. And basically right now they are unmanned sites that need that can go down and if they do go down there actually cause a big problem for the grid and transportation of natural gas and supply to to homes and businesses So our product is a low-cost remote monitoring solution that can alert them quickly without adding a large Super supervisory SCADA system
spk05: Sounds very promising. I appreciate that. Are you seeing any let up on the, you talked about inflation in the field of direct labor shipping and freight costs. Are you starting to see any let up on those price, those cost increases?
spk03: Yeah, that's a great question, John. And I think like most of us are seeing in our personal lives and even businesses all over the country, I don't, we're not seeing much of a let up. We're seeing the pressures continue from a labor standpoint. There's a little bit of softening in the labor market. It's not as high demand or high pressure as much as it was say six months ago. But as far as overall costs, costs are remaining high. We do continue to see a little bit of employee turnover and rotation. And then through the rehiring process, obviously seeing some inflation, various challenges in that way. So unfortunately, I think inflation is with us for a while. We continue to see inflationary pressures on products and components for our systems and our inventory. Supply chain shortages are also causing some of those issues to where our original suppliers for many of our even small components don't have the product anymore so we're having to go to brokered sources where we end up paying a lot more under those circumstances and in those markets. Hopefully those are temporary that eventually the original suppliers will be able to continue to ramp up and meet production and we'll be able to go back to them and hopefully get things at lower prices but having to purchase a lot of components on the brokered market is also driving up prices. So maybe a little bit of softening on some of the labor pressures, but we're still seeing it. And unless we start to see a lot more recession type pressure later this year, we're not necessarily seeing much of a let up on the inflation side.
spk05: Okay, well, good luck with that, and thanks for the commentary. Certainly. Thanks, John.
spk01: Once again, if you wish to ask a question, please press star, then 1. The next question comes from Jim McIllery with Dawson James. Please go ahead.
spk05: Good morning, Jim. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Morning. Given your comments on costs and inflation, would it be reasonable to expect that the gross margin percentage doesn't really increase much or potentially even declines a little bit throughout the rest of the year?
spk03: I think that would certainly be a very realistic assumption. We're going to obviously try to fight that or battle that as much as we can. At the start of the year, we did raise our prices, and I think that certainly has helped us so far this year. We are going through another refresh and look at that to look at where can we modify pricing to kind of help with some of those pressures. But inflation is likely to move faster than we can move or justify prices with our customers. So we certainly are going to do whatever we can to try and limit those pressures but it it is something that we're going to likely see pressure on gross margin throughout the rest of this year for sure okay and on the on the inventory levels are are you well let me just ask it this way what's um
spk05: What's the trajectory of inventory levels given, you know, all of the puts and takes going on in the market? Are we likely to have inventories at these high levels for the rest of the year or is there, you know, things are getting better on the supply line so you can bring down your inventory levels?
spk03: Things are improving to the point where we're getting more inventory in on a regular basis. We do have a large backlog that we've mentioned and talked about. So we're able to, as we get that inventory in, it helps us bring down that backlog. So hopefully we're not seeing significant increases in inventory levels, but rather we're seeing a lot of inventory come in the door and then move out the door quickly to our customers. But we do still have often circumstances where a shortage on a very small individual component can hang up the delivery of systems or large orders. So the timing of that still is a challenge. We still see disruptions here and there where we thought we had all of the parts secured to complete a certain number of systems or products. And then we see some slowdowns for a week or two or sometimes a little bit longer than that. Overall, because of the number of orders that we place, earlier in the year and even late last year, that product is now being delivered and we're still looking at what do we think the needs are for next year. So we've even started placing some orders that we anticipate will be delivered in 2023 based on long lead time. So again, we don't think that the inventory levels are going to necessarily increase significantly because we do have a backlog of orders that we can fill as that inventory comes in. but I wouldn't necessarily see it coming down significantly from the level that it's at currently either.
spk05: All right. That's helpful. Thank you. You've mentioned backlog a number of times during this call. Could you quantify that or compare it to the end of Q1 level and the year-ago level, and then on a related matter, Can you talk about the lead times that you're quoting to your customers, how that is right now compared to the prior quarter and the year ago quarter?
spk03: Yeah, certainly. We've never given an official number as far as, you know, what is our backlog look like. We talked about it historically more in the context of how much visibility do we have in the past years before COVID. We typically said that we had a couple of months of visibility into orders because of that backlog. Obviously that's gotten longer now because of inventory challenges and supply shortages. But at the same time, I can say that compared to a year ago, our backlog is much larger than it was a year ago or that it's ever been historically. And even from Q1, it has increased. But we did see and we did anticipate, and I think we even talked a little bit about this in the Q1 call, that we anticipated towards the end of Q2 that inventory availability would start to increase. And we've certainly seen that kind of late in the quarter. And as we're looking at the next couple of quarters, we see additional availability there. So even though we're at historic levels from the backlog perspective, we're now starting to be able to whittle that back down. So sorry, I know that's not a quantified number for you, but I'll let Cam talk about the customer side of things.
spk04: Yeah, historically, You know, we wouldn't see orders into the next year at this time of year. We're starting to get that, but it's not... Maybe we're a quarter or close to a quarter outlook ahead of normal, but not for all customers, really only for kind of your super majors who have some of their plans for next year. But overall, as Ryan mentioned, We kind of conditioned our customers last year to talk to them about, you can't live in the JIT world anymore because it won't be Profire that's behind, it'll be Profire suppliers, suppliers, suppliers that are behind. And I think that that strategy, although we haven't been able to, like everybody, keep up to it exactly, We're really grateful we put that in place because otherwise we would be strained. Whereas right now, yes, there's complexities to deal with, but we've managed it quite well. But as mentioned, we are seeing some orders into next year. I know we're putting in orders for next year, but it's still not way ahead of where it has been historically.
spk05: All right, that's very helpful. Thanks a lot, and talk to you soon. Yeah, thanks, Jim.
spk01: That is all the time that we have for questions today, and I'd like to hand the call back to management for closing remarks.
spk04: Thank you, operator. Thanks, everyone, for joining us on our call today to discuss our second quarter results. We would like to thank all of you for your continued support. As always, we're available for any discussions or questions you may have. We will also be participating in several investor relations conferences in the next few months, including the three-part Advisors' Ideas Conference in Chicago later this month, the Lake Street Capital Markets Conference in New York in September, and the Dawson James Conference in Florida in October. We look forward to meeting many of you at these events, and thank you, and have a great day.
spk01: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
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