PLBY Group, Inc.

Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call

11/9/2023

spk04: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to PLBY Group's third quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Hosting today's call are Ben Cohen, Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Crossman, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. The company will be hosting a question and answer session today. To join the queue to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the start keys. While we wait for the queue to fill, I would like to hand the call over to Ashley DeSimone of ICR.
spk01: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon. I'd like to remind everyone that the information discussed today is qualified in its entirety by the Form 8K and Form 10Q filings made today by PLBY Group, which may be accessed on the SEC's website and PLBY Group's website. Today's call is also being webcast, and a replay will be posted to PLBY Group's investor relations website. Please note that statements made during this call, including financial projections or other statements that are not historical in nature, may constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements are made on the basis of PLBY Group's views and assumptions regarding future events and business performance at the time they're made, and we do not undertake any obligation to update these statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, which could cause PLBY Group's actual results to differ from its historical results and forecasts, including those risks set forth in PLBY Group's filings with the SEC, and you should refer to and carefully consider those for more information. This cautionary statement applies to all forward-looking statements made during this call. Do not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. During this call, PLBY Group may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Such non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in the earnings release PLBY group filed with its Form 8K today and in its Form 10Q filed. With that, I will hand the call back over to Operator to begin the Q&A session. Operator?
spk04: Thank you. And again, at this time, we will be conducting the question and answer session. And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. And our first question comes from the line of Jason Tilton with the Canada Corps of Genuity. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. First off, I'm curious. You mentioned a press release that you're not 100% convinced about. selling Honeybird debt. I'm just curious, what are some of the different factors you're weighing as you think about that asset and how it fits into your broader platform going forward? Maybe what are some of the options beyond continuing as is that you're currently looking at at the moment?
spk00: Thanks, Jason. Good afternoon. It's Ben. I think right now, We are making the operational improvements we've talked about in previous calls to Honey Burdette. As we said today, we are instituting a 10% price increase that will start in the fourth quarter. And it will take us really until probably the second quarter next year for all products. But we have not raised prices in the last two years. And yet we've faced rising inflation with wages, product costs, and shipping costs. We've also changed our free shipping as well as our expedited shipping policies, and we have other cost measures that we're taking. Given the macro environment right now from M&A, and especially on the retail side, we don't think it's the right time to maximize shareholder value by selling that. However, we are looking at strategic alternatives and are pursuing partnerships where we might be able to bring in a partner to help us grow the business without using cash from our balance sheet.
spk06: Great. That's really helpful.
spk03: And then just to follow up, not on HumberDev, but on the licensing business, you mentioned in the prepared remarks in the press release about potentially having a Chinese private equity firm making an offer for some of the Chinese trademarks. I was curious if you could expand a little bit about how that would impact the shape and trajectory of the licensing business in that market going forward.
spk00: Sure. There's not much I can say at this point. What I can say, and we talked about this in the press release as well, is that over the past few months, we've done extensive audits of our old partners, both from a legal and a financial perspective. We saw multiple violations and incurable violations of those agreements. as well as we've talked about previously, our partners have not been paying us, so we have decided to terminate a number of them. We have strong interest from some of their subs, as well as new partners that might be interested in licensing the brand. And at the same time, we received an unsolicited offer to buy our IP. We are still evaluating that deal and whether that deal makes sense for us or not, given the business, the valuation, the geopolitical situation, etc., in its current format, we would be selling all of our China business and we would not have a China business moving forward. But in return, we would receive a significant amount of cash. But again, it's early in that and we're still evaluating it from a company perspective.
spk03: Great. That's really helpful. And just one last one. I was wondering if you could perhaps share some of the an update on some of the key metrics that you've been discussing in regards to the creator platform. I know you shared a lot about plans to sort of, you know, change that rebranding and also introduce membership tier. But I'm just curious, what are some of the underlying trends that you're seeing over recent months?
spk00: Yeah, we're still very happy with where the creator platform is. Moving forward, we're not going to be talking about GMV because that is not the metric by which we think we should be judged. What we're going to be talking about is digital revenue. I think we are not, to be clear, we are not trying to compete with only fans. We don't believe in being Costco at Playboy. I think we view ourselves more as a Neiman Marcus than a Costco. And so we think we have a way with the Playboy Club, which really, from the people we've talked to, resonates with people. It makes sense. This is the place to interact. with creators, but also the addition of membership. We have ways for creators to make more money with Playboy than any other platform. We're building on an affiliate program where they can sell memberships and get paid. They can participate in live events. There's a really unique value proposition for membership. And so for us, it's much more about revenue. We also believe with the creator tiering that we've rolled out that OnlyFans had set the market at 80-20. We don't think 80-20 for a creator... platform split is necessarily relevant, nor should that be where we are moving forward. And so, sorry not to answer the question directly, but we're going to be focusing on digital revenue moving forward as we bring our whole entire digital ecosystem together into one offering.
spk06: Great. That's very helpful. Thanks a lot. Yep. And our next question comes from the line of Greg Pendy with Chardon. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just flipping back over to Honey Burdette, can you just kind of let us know, I mean, what are you seeing in terms of the ability to raise prices? You said you're going to be doing it gradually over the next six months. I mean, where do you think competitively the retail environment in that space is positioned?
spk00: Thanks, Greg. Look, I think October is a great example, and we talked about this, but October of 23 versus October of 22, which is a month that we had no sales in either year, we were up 16% year over year. And so with the right product, we are easily seeing the demand for that. We've also made changes already to expedited shipping, to free shipping thresholds. We have not seen any impact to consumer demand for the product. And so we believe that we have room to raise prices. Obviously, labor and other costs have gone up. And when you look at the competitive landscape, we've seen others raise prices. We have not. And so that is something that we will start implementing here in the fourth quarter. And just given how we tag items based on the factories, it will take us until the second quarter to have that across our full product suite.
spk05: Great. And then just one more on Honeybird. Can you just remind us what the store base sits at right now, where it was last year, and if there are any plans for new stores?
spk02: Yes. So, Greg, it's Mark. Right now, the store base has got 48 in Australia. We've got 12 in the U.S., and we have three in the U.K. And since then, we had opened, I think, a year ago, three new stores. I'll get the exact number for you, but I think that was in the U.S.
spk00: Greg, I think we would like to open new stores. I think that we are committed to moving to that capital light model we talked about. We don't think that's the best use of shareholder capital on our balance sheet, just given our limited resources and the debt that we have. But we are exploring, as we said, strategic alternatives to potentially bring in a partner to help us expand that business. It's just not the right time for us to sell 100% of it after consulting with our advisors based on the macro environment.
spk06: Makes sense. Okay, thanks a lot.
spk04: And we have reached the end of the question and answer session. Therefore, I'll turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.
spk00: We appreciate everyone listening, and we look forward to talking to you on our next call to discuss full year 2023 results. Thank you.
spk04: And this concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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