ePlus inc.

Q1 2025 Earnings Conference Call

8/6/2024

spk06: Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the E-Plus Earnings Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Clay Parkhurst. Sir, you may begin.
spk00: Thank you for joining us today. On the call is Mark Maron, CEO and President, Darren Raguel, COO and President of E-Plus Technology, Elaine Marion, CFO, and Erica Stoker, General Counsel. I want to take a moment to remind you that the statements we make this afternoon that are not historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements and are based on management's current plans, estimates, and projections. Actual and anticipated future results may vary materially due to certain risks and uncertainties detailed in the earnings release we issued this afternoon and our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and in other documents that we may file with the SEC. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date of which the statement was made, and the company undertakes no responsibility to update any of these forward-looking statements in light of new information, future events, or otherwise. In addition, we will be using certain non-GAAP measures during the call. This includes a GAAP financial reconciliation and earnings release, which is posted on the investor information section of our website at www.eplus.com. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mark Marin. Mark.
spk03: Thank you, Clay, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal year 2025 first quarter results. I will recap our first quarter highlights and provide an update on our business. Then Elaine will discuss our financial results in more detail. I will conclude our prepared remarks with the discussion of our outlook. After that, we'll open the call to your questions. We continue to execute on our strategic initiatives around AI, cloud, security, and the related advisory and annuity services. Coming into the quarter, we had a tough compare to last year, which resulted in a net sales decline of 5.2% for the first quarter fiscal year 2025 compared to last year. Last year's quarter had 25% net sales growth, including a nearly 30% increase in product sales in our technology business. Our gross billings and gross margins held essentially flat when compared to the prior year's quarter. We believe our gross billings are stabilizing now that supply chains are normalizing. A portion of the net sales decline this quarter reflects an increase in the netting of sales from gross to net, partially offset by increases in professional and managed services revenues. We believe our product revenues are down due to some customers implementing technology orders that were previously supply chain constrained over the last year. Both quarters were affected by the supply chain, last year by an abrupt easing of the supply chain, and this quarter as customers digested their prior purchases. Despite these timing differences, we believe we are focused on the necessary IT areas which make us more resilient reflected in our annual guidance. Our service revenues sustained solid growth, with overall service revenues up 15.8%. Managed services continued to build and were up 28% year-over-year. We also continued to see strong growth in our managed services bookings, which were up approximately 70% year-over-year. This bodes well for ePLUS as these are recurring revenue streams that give us predictability and more consistent profitability in future years. Security was an area of strength for us, which continues to be over 20% of our gross billings in the trailing 12 months and was up over 9% quarter over quarter. Our finance segment performed well with revenue up 6.4% due to an increase in our portfolio earnings resulting in a 24.3% increase in adjusted EBITDA for this segment. We continue to see strong customer interest for our AI Ignite program and discovery assessments. We have also rolled out a new storage as a service offering and an Azure Recover program. We believe these will continue to support the rapidly evolving needs of our customer base both now and into the future. Many of our customers are in the formative phase of their AI journeys, contemplating how best to leverage AI. In many cases, customers do not have well-defined use cases, have too many data silos, a lack of data cleanliness, and immature or nonexistent AI policies. We believe we are well positioned to help our customers capitalize on this opportunity through our AI Ignite program. We are seeing interest across various verticals, which presents a significant opportunity for us within our customer base and for net new customers. As a certified NVIDIA DGX managed service partner, we have had some wins with our AI support services in managing AI optimized infrastructure stacks. In the quarter, we experienced higher SP&A expenses, primarily relating to headcount from both organic hires to support our new solution areas and the peak acquisition. We will continue to invest in customer-facing personnel and sales and engineering professionals with skills in the highest demand areas such as AI, security, and services. In the quarter, we had some lag between the higher cost of these onboarded personnel and revenue generation. Although first quarter of 2025 experienced some revenue headwinds on a sequential basis, we were disciplined with our SG&A costs. Sequentially, this discipline and gross margin expansion of 120 basis points contributed to our operating income, which increased more than 20%, and operating margin was up 130 basis points. Over time, we believe we will continue to benefit from operating leverage as we move forward with the investments we have made. Turning to our balance sheet, with supply chain easing, we've been able to deliver many delayed projects, which resulted in accelerating our cash conversion cycle and a cash balance of 350 million. With this capital, we have the funds to execute on strategic initiatives, judiciously invest in headcount, and support our share repurchase program. During the quarter, we repurchased 162,319 shares. This most recent share repurchase program further demonstrates our commitment to returning value to shareholders and our confidence in long-term growth potential. We will continue to evaluate opportunities to repurchase share based on investment opportunities to drive growth, our financial position, and market conditions. On the growth front, we continue to identify both near-term and long-term organic and inorganic opportunities, and we have a healthy pipeline. Our balance sheets provides financial flexibilities to support future growth initiatives. The underlying strategic focus of our business is solid, and we believe we are well positioned to drive top line sales and profitable growth. I will now turn the call over to Elaine to discuss our financial results in more detail. Elaine?
spk02: Thank you, Mark, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I will provide additional details about our financial performance in the first quarter of fiscal 2025. First quarter consolidated net sales totaled $544.5 million, down from $574.2 million in last year's first quarter due to lower product sales in the technology business. As Mark noted, we faced a difficult year-over-year comparison as net sales were up 25% in the first quarter of fiscal 2024 due to easing supply chains, which allowed us to complete several previously delayed customer projects. Product revenue decreased 8.2% year-over-year primarily due to lower sales of cloud and networking products. The inventory flush in last year's first quarter primarily benefited from a 71.9% increase in sales of networking products. Our services business posted another quarter of double-digit top-line growth with net sales up 15.8% to 78.2 million as ongoing demand for EMS, cloud, and service desk services drove 28% net sales growth in managed services. We also saw continued growth in professional services, with net sales rising 4.8% year-over-year, primarily due to an increase in staff augmentation services. Sales within our technology business were broad-based. Our two largest verticals are telecom, media, and entertainment, and technology, representing 24% and 19%, respectively. of our technology business net sales on a trailing 12-month basis. SLED, healthcare, and financial services accounted for 15, 12, and 11% respectively, with the remaining 19% divided among other end markets. Moving to our financing segment, net sales totaled 9 million, a 6.4% increase from 8.5 million in the prior year, primarily due to higher portfolio earnings. Although consolidated gross profit declined to $134.5 million from $142.3 million in last year's first quarter, gross margin declined only 10 basis points to 24.7%. The gross margin decline was primarily due to a 90 basis point decline in product margin in the technology business, which was the result of a shift in customer mix. Partially offsetting this decline in gross margin was a 70 basis point expansion in managed services gross margin. Our managed services offerings continue to benefit from scale as we expand our offerings. Professional services gross margin rose 10 basis points to 41.5%. Sequentially, while net sales were down 1.8%, gross profit increased 3.2%, mainly driven by an increase in product gross margin to 21.5%, versus 19.3% in the prior quarter. Consolidated operating expenses grew 3.2% year over year, primarily due to higher salaries and benefits from additional headcount. At the end of the quarter, our headcount was 19.07, up 54 from a year ago, including 29 employees from the peak acquisition in January 2024. We remain focused on driving efficiencies across the business through disciplined expense management. These efforts yielded positive results in the quarter as operating expenses declined 2.3% sequentially, mainly driven by lower variable compensation and GNA. First quarter operating income was $35.5 million and earnings before taxes were $37.5 million, down from $46.3 million and $46.5 million, respectively, in the prior year. due to lower gross profit in the technology business and a year-over-year increase in operating expenses. During the quarter, we had other income of $2.1 million, primarily driven by an increase in interest income of $2.6 million. The effective tax rate remained unchanged from last year's first quarter at 27.2%. Moving to the bottom line, consolidated net earnings amounted to $27.3 million, or $1.02 per diluted share, in the first quarter, down from 33.8 million, or $1.27 per diluted share, reported in the year-ago period. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were $1.13 versus $1.41 in the prior year. Our diluted share count at the end of the quarter was 26.8 million, modestly above the 26.6 million a year ago. On a sequential basis, both consolidated net earnings and diluted earnings per share increased 24.4%. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA totaled $43.1 million compared to $53.9 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2024. Shifting to our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $350 million up from $253 million at March 31, 2024. The increase was primarily due to improvements in working capital. The significant growth in our cash position was aided by a 36% sequential decline in inventories as supply chains have continued to normalize. We ended the quarter with $89.1 million in inventory, which is a three-year low. Further, inventory turns continued to improve, totaling 14 days down from 23 days in the prior sequential quarter and 32 days in the prior year. Our cash conversion cycle was 37 days compared to 48 days in the prior year. During the quarter, we repurchased 162,319 shares, costing $11.9 million. 109,869 shares were from our share repurchase program announced in May 2024. Overall, we remain focused on investing in organic growth seeking out creative acquisitions to expand our geographic footprint and service offerings, and returning value to the shareholders through share repurchases. With that, I will turn the call back over to Mark. Mark?
spk03: Thank you, Elaine. With our diverse portfolio and focus on providing the strategic IT solutions in demand by our customers, we are well positioned in the marketplace. For the year, we expect positive comparisons for sales and earnings and are reiterating our full-year financial outlook. Specifically, we are maintaining our fiscal 2025 guidance for net sales growth over the prior fiscal year of between 3% and 6%, and adjusted EBITDA range of $200 million to $215 million. While we continue to review and prioritize our capital needs, We remain committed to making the required investments in our company to position us for long-term success. In addition to providing value to our shareholders through share repurchase programs, our strong balance sheet allows us to continue to invest in our business while maintaining flexibility to take advantage of attractive and accretive opportunities. Operator, let's open the line for questions.
spk06: At this time, if you'd like to ask a question, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question will come from the line of Maggie Nolan with William Blair. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, thank you. So I wanted to ask about the upcoming fiscal second quarter. Obviously, you have another tough year over year compare in the fiscal second quarter. But what can you share with us about how it's progressed so far, how you're thinking about it on a sequential basis? and your confidence in that building in the second quarter to help you get to that full year guidance you laid out?
spk03: Hey, Maggie, it's Mark. Great question. So right now Q2 is in line with expectations. Let me frame it a little bit too based on Q1 because Q2 is similar to Q1 in terms of being a tough compare. So in Q1, net sales, as you know, was up 25%. Our product sales were up almost 30%. Our networking product sales were up over 70%. That's for Q1. Now, Q2, we have a similar compare where our net sales were up about 19%. But preliminary, you know, through the first month and a half of the quarter, pipeline, backline, it's in line with expectations. We still believe in our guidance strongly that we're in line. but the first half were challenged just based on the IT environment and the tough compare that we have through the first half.
spk01: Okay, thanks, Mark. And then you mentioned expecting to benefit from operating leverage over time, maybe to you or Elaine. How do you expect that to manifest over the next year or so?
spk03: Well, a couple different things. We already sourced some of that, Maggie. If you look at our quarters sequentially from Q4 to Q1, Our operating income actually jumped 20%. Now, what's happening in the OPEC space is some of the stuff that we've talked about over previous quarters. We're now in the process. We think we'll start to get more operating leverage. We're more opportunistic and measured hires, if you will. A lot of those take time. New hires take time to ramp up. Our investments in AI and services is more expense than revenue at this piece. And when I say that, more the AI side, not so much the services side. The thing that we're excited that we think will start to get additional OpEx is last year, last fiscal year, as you know, we added 300 customers. So, as we've added new sales reps and service personnel, and we're building out our solution offerings going back into those new customers, we would expect that to drive our revenues up. We'd expect our OpEx to stay in line, and therefore, we'd get the operating leverage.
spk01: Okay, thanks, Mark. And one quick housekeeping, if you have it, the organic growth in the quarter and embedded in the full year guide.
spk03: I don't have it. Do you know what the top?
spk02: Yeah, the material amount of the change in year over year was from the organic business.
spk03: Did I cover it, Maggie?
spk01: Sorry, did you say material or immaterial, Elaine? I didn't quite hear you.
spk02: The majority of the change from quarter over quarter was from the organic business.
spk01: Okay.
spk06: Thank you all. Yep.
spk03: Take care, Maggie.
spk06: Our next question will come from the line of Greg Burns with Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thanks. In regards to the customer product backlog that you mentioned maybe impacting some sales this quarter, where do you think the channel is or the the customer base is in terms of digesting that backlog? Do you feel like it's been worked through and you get back to a more normal cadence of order flow going forward?
spk03: Yeah, I think it's already normalized, Greg. When we look at our gross billings, by the way, in this quarter, even though our net sales were down 5.2%, our gross billings were down just 1%. So essentially flat on a, as we talked about, I don't want to overkill it on a tough compare last year for this quarter. So we do think that our gross billings have started to normalize. The supply chain is stabilized. So I think we're more in a more normal run rate where we'll start to see the seasonality that we normally do in Q2 and Q3. And then we'll see where it goes from there.
spk04: Okay. And then is there anything you could share in terms of your AI business strategy? whether it be growth, pipeline opportunity, anything quantitative or qualitatively you could add to give us a little bit better understanding of the opportunity there for you?
spk03: Yeah, sure. Hey, Greg, the other thing, just if I can go back to it, I'm not sure if you were talking about some of the consumption of the technology that we talked about with customers in previous. So I think a lot of that has happened and we really see it. If you look at our services numbers, we were up 15.8% in our services overall, which means that that technology is being consumed and we're implementing it with our PS, our professional services and advisory services. So I'm not sure if the first part when I answered, if it answered your question, but that should do it. As it relates to AI, so here's the thing with AI, it's really interesting. There's not a customer we have that won't give us a meeting or listen to us as it relates to our AI Ignite program. Everybody's looking at the same thing, all customers. They have data silos on-prem in the cloud, so they've got all this disparate data silos. They've got data security and privacy concerns. There's no AI governance, at least in a lot of customers that are more in the, let's say, formative or curious stage, if you will. Their infrastructure is not ready, especially in the power and cooling space. There's a skills gap. And then there's an identification of use cases. That's probably the biggest thing that we're seeing with our customers. Now, we've rolled out a bunch of envisioning sessions, data strategy sessions, workshops, Microsoft 365 co-pilot readiness. And we're starting to see some real interest and pipeline build in that space. And that's why when I had mentioned earlier to Maggie, we've made the investment in the programs and the tools and the training for our team and headcount and what have you. It's more expense than revenue, but that is really starting to build. Now here's the other reason we're excited about AI. If you think about AI, it goes across everything that E plus does over the years from compute, networking, storage, all the things that go into that is things that we've done for years. So, and as well as security as well, which is probably one of the bigger pieces that people are trying to figure. So it's early innings. We're getting a lot of interest in meetings with customers. We've done some nice services work with our customers. The pipeline is building, and then we'll see as we move through the quarters how that really turns into revenue.
spk04: Okay, great. And then lastly, just any negatives or benefits from the CrowdStrike issue?
spk03: No, no negatives, to be honest, Greg. We did have a benefit. We had one customer that had some real problems with CrowdStrike that we got involved with early. And they were able to open up pretty much on time. And after that, they extended their service agreement with us for three years. So we did see some benefit, but I don't want to overplay it. It was not too much in terms of, I'd say, revenue benefit. More, I'd say, customer sat with how we helped our customers than I could point to revenue. That's the only deal I've at least been notified that came out of some of the work that we did around CrowdStrike for our customers.
spk04: Great. Thank you.
spk03: All right, thanks, Greg.
spk06: Again, for any questions, press star one, and your next question will come from the line of Matt Sheeran with Steeple. Please go ahead.
spk05: Yes, hey, good afternoon, everyone. I wanted to go back to Maggie's question, which is about the outlook for Q2. You said in line with expectations in seasonal, but I'm not sure exactly what that meant, because you talked about the backlog being down. is seasonal sort of flattish sequentially? Because obviously the last three years, there's been a lot of seasonality in your business with backlog. And so are we to assume that this is going to be down year over year again, and that growth that you're guiding to 3% to 6% is all going to come in the back half?
spk03: Yeah, I'd say, Matt, that's a fair statement. I think it'll be in the back half. Once again, just to remind you, right, if you look at it, first quarter, we were up 25%. Second quarter, we were 19%. So Those are some pretty tough compares, but we do feel positive about our strategy and our growth plans. I'd say it'd be more second half, you know, back-ended, if you will. Q2 is still a positive quarter, just if we were flat based on what we did last year. But that's probably a safe way to say it.
spk05: A positive quarter, meaning, I'm not sure what that meant.
spk03: I mean, you're flat. In line with last year.
spk05: Oh, okay, so fly year-over-year. Got it. Okay. So that means you're going to be flying. Okay. Got it. Understood. Okay. And then in terms of cost, you talked about adding resources, professional resources, et cetera, but then you said that you think that you're going to get leverage on OpEx as volumes return. So what's the right, is this the right number to use around the low 90s in terms of OpEx over the next few quarters, or is it different?
spk03: I would say yes, Matt. That's probably a fair assumption in terms of from a run rate, but realize you've got some variables in that based on, you know, GP and commission and things like that. But if I were looking at, I'll call it the S and SG&A salaries, I think that would stay within line with where it is. I think what, you know, I'm also alluding to is Q4 to Q1, our operating income jumped 20%. Now, that's just a quarter, so it's not a trend yet. But there are some things that we've done both from an expense standpoint and also from a training standpoint that we'd expect to get some improvements from our account executives and service reps as well as some expense savings that we've made. So I'd expect operating leverage throughout the year. It's not going to jump, as you know, from quarter to quarter, but will grow throughout the year and into the following year.
spk05: Okay. Thank you. No problem. Anything else, Matt, or? No, that's it. Thanks. Okay. All right.
spk06: And that will conclude our question and answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to Mark Marin for any closing remarks.
spk03: Okay. Thank you. Hey, I just want to thank everybody for joining us for our first quarter earnings call and wish you a happy and safe day and a long holiday for the Labor Day weekend. even though I'm jumping the gun a little bit there. Take care and have a good day.
spk06: That will conclude today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
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