5/19/2025

speaker
Brett Moss
Host, Hayden Invest Relations

Greetings and welcome to the Pioneer Power First Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Brett Moss of Hayden Invest Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

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Unknown
Investor Relations Representative

Thank you, operator. The call today will be hosted by Nathan Mazurek, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Walter McCaulick, Chief Financial Officer, and Gio Morrican, President of Pioneer e-Mobility. Following this discussion, there will be a Q&A session open to participants on the call. We appreciate the opportunity to review the first quarter financial results and recent business highlights. Before we get started, let me remind you this call is being recorded in webcast. During this call, management may make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to the cautionary text regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release issued last Thursday, May 15th, which applies to the content of the call. I'd like to now turn the call over to Nathan Mazurek, Chairman and CEO. Nathan, please go ahead.

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Brett. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. We are off to a strong start in 2025 with first quarter revenue more than doubling to $6.7 million. This growth is a clear reflection of the accelerating demand for our on-site power solutions and continued penetration of vertical markets for these solutions. Q1 revenue indeed validates the significant investments we have made to develop and expand the scope of our e-boost solutions. The primary contributor to first quarter revenue was the initial completion of 10 e-boost units to one of the largest public school districts in the United States. This order, which was announced in June of 2024, is for a total of 25 e-boost mobile power units to charge the school district's first 200 electric school buses. Specifically, this order was a landmark order for Pioneer and represents the largest RFP ever administered and awarded for a mobile EV charging system. The balance of the 25 units are scheduled to be completed and delivered in the current quarter. The project was awarded after a short and intense competitive bidding process. At the time, we made the strategic decision to compete for the project at a highly competitive price in order to secure a marquee customer and prove the value of our technology at scale. As a result, our gross margins in Q1 reflected the early cost dynamic of such a large and complicated project. The first units that we developed and produced carried higher costs as we refined our processes and optimized production workflows. As we continue to execute on this order, we see improved efficiencies and benefits. We remain confident that the succeeding units will result in a better gross margin contribution for Pioneer in Q2. At the end of the first quarter, our total backlog was $23.2 million, an increase of 18% compared to the prior quarter. In addition to these current orders, our sales pipeline of potential new opportunities continues to expand. We are in active discussions with dozens of municipalities, transit authorities, shipping ports and with several major national package delivery providers, whom have already committed to a multi-year electrical vehicle phasing in with the ultimate objective of 100% fleet electrification. In most instances, these delivery operators have already made the decision to transition to an all-electric fleet but lack the requisite charging infrastructure. eBoost offers an off-grid, immediately deployable mobile solution that does not rely on extensive permitting, grid upgrades or long lead times. Beyond our core eBoost charging platform, we have developed a residential slash light commercial power system announced in March of 2024, tentatively named HomeBoost. This new platform is a game-changing power solution that will revolutionize the way homeowners and small facility owners address energy resilience and fast charging. This cutting-edge product integrates a prime-rated natural gas engine with optional DC fast charging, providing the facility owner with the ability to generate, at their option, 100% of their energy and charging needs 24 hours a day. With its exceptional efficiency, compact and futuristic design, HomeBoost is perfectly positioned to meet the evolving and ever-increasing power demand from the residential and light commercial energy market. We are essentially providing the large home and the facility owner with a private power to operate independent of their grid connection or in tandem with such connection. Our confidence is burnished by the enthusiastic reception we've already seen from potential customers and channel partners, and additionally, in the residential sector and additionally the light commercial market, from medical-related businesses like MRI, dialysis, cataract-type centers to commercial bakeries and cement producers, where power needs and fast EV charging are critical and increased and reliable grid power availability is somewhat restricted. As we prepare for a dynamic launch in the second half of this year, we're confident that HomeBoost will be a major driver of growth and innovation for our company in 2026 and beyond. With that, I will turn the call over to Walter.

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Walter McCaulick
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Nathan, and good afternoon, everyone. Please be advised that we have included a non-GAAP financial measure of operating loss from continuing operations, which includes corporate overhead expenses, research and development costs, and non-recurring professional fees. Please refer to our press release issued on Thursday, May 15th, for further information, including a reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. The press release can be found on our website at Such non-GAAP measures should not be used as a substitute or alternative to any measure financial performance calculated and presented in accordance with US GAAP. Instead, we believe this non-GAAP measure should be used to supplement our financial measures derived in accordance with US GAAP in order to provide a more complete understanding of the trends affecting the business. First quarter revenue was $6.7 million compared to $3.3 million in the year-ago quarter, an increase of 103%. The increase was primarily due to a significant increase in sales and rentals of our suite of mobile EV charging solutions, E-Boost. First quarter gross profit was $148 million, or a gross margin of approximately 2% compared to gross profit of $535,000, or a 16% gross margin in the first quarter of last year. The decrease is primarily due to what Nathan alluded to earlier regarding the completion of the initial 10 units from the large 25-unit order we received in June of 2024. The first units that we deployed and produced carried higher costs as we refined our processes and optimized production workflows. As we continue to execute on this order, we will see improved production efficiencies. We remain confident that the remaining units will result in more positive gross margin contributions for Pioneer. During the first quarter of 2025, Pioneer incurred an operating loss from continuing operations of $2.3 million compared to an operating loss from continuing operations of $1.7 million in the first quarter of last year. The variance was primarily due to the decrease in our gross profit and an increase in sales and selling general and administrative expense. During the first quarter of 2025, Pioneer generated a non-GAAP operating loss from continuing operations of $989,000, which again excludes corporate overhead expenses, R&D expense, and non-recurring professional fees. As compared to a non-GAAP operating loss from continuing operations of $319,000 for the same quarter in 2024. Net loss from continuing operations for the first quarter of 2025 was $2.1 million compared to a net loss from continuing operations of $1.7 million during the first quarter of 2024. Taking a look at our balance sheet, as of March 31, 2025, we had cash on hand of $25.8 million, zero bank debt and working capital of $26.2 million compared to $41.6 million of cash on hand, zero bank debt and working capital of $26.7 million as of December 31, 2024. The cash on hand as of March 31, 2025 represents cash per share of approximately $2.32. The decrease in our cash on hand during the first quarter is primarily due to the payment of a one-time special cash dividend of an aggregate of $16.7 million on January 7, 2025. Today we are reaffirming our guidance for revenue of $27 million to $29 million for the full year of 2025. This concludes my remarks. I will now turn the call back over to Nathan for any questions.

speaker
Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Operator, you can open the lines for questions if you will.

speaker
Brett Moss
Host, Hayden Invest Relations

Great, thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please before we pull for questions. First question is from Rob Brown

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

from Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Rob.

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Rob Brown
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

On the margin in the quarter, I understand the startup kind of margin issue. How do you see margins recovering and as this sort of goes forward, where do you think you see the margins too for this product line?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so I mean the last quarter was more indicative of where that's what we shoot for and that's what we get. Especially the eBoost product, it's a super high value integrated special product. On this particular job, when you start, and it's on me at the end, when you start with a lower sales price, only perfect execution will give you any kind of good contribution. Less than perfect execution starts to hurt worse. So I think that the second half of the year where we're not so overwhelmed by all these units, 25 units is a lot. I don't know of any other RFP, I don't know of any other award that size for this type of the system. They've recovered already for the second quarter. They're not going to be the outsized or outstanding margins that we produced in the fourth quarter, but at least they'll be making better contributions. And as the other products in the third quarter, the other projects really, same product, but the other jobs that we're doing come through in the third and fourth quarter, so the margin should recover to

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

something similar to the fourth of last year. Okay, great. Great

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Rob Brown
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

explanation. Thank you. And then on the, I guess, e-boost pipeline in particular, I think you said dozens of quotes and activity, but how do you kind of characterize that as these come in? Is that really building for 2026 revenue? And when do you sort of need to close those to get into 2026 bookings?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, probably by the end of June, you know, that's, it's a little bit arbitrary, but something like that, you know, then we're really just talking about 2026 afterwards. You know, of course there are exceptions, you know, we happen to have everything in stock, then it's on the smaller size and so forth, less customization and so forth and so on, but those also don't produce the same revenue that the larger units do. So the end of June is kind of a reasonable cutoff. After that,

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

everything is 26 oriented.

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Rob Brown
Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Okay, good. And then homeboost, I think you talked about a fair amount of progress on the channel and the product interest, but how's the pipeline shaping up there and are you, are you able to receive orders yet or is that product still not, or still launching in the back half and that's when you'll start to see the order?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's still launching the back half. You know, we just, and it's all on me too, we redesigned its look, its mechanical fit and form, its colors, even internally, did a lot to eliminate the excessive cost that we think we could do without, you know, at the same time, it's a premium product, so we want it to really be that premium product, not just in look but in function for the user. So I think we're essentially complete and we're pushing internally. Everybody is gearing up for a very, very strong and dynamic launch second half of the year. As we've said on other calls, but it bears repeating, we're, none of homeboost doesn't factor into any of the guidance that we gave for 25. We're hoping to be successful from an order rate in the second half of 25, only with delivery into 26. So none of the guidance is impacted by

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

its rollout for 25. Okay, great. Congratulations on all the progress. I'll turn it over. Thank you, Rob. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, it is star one. Next question here is from Aristo Vakoski, a private investor. Please go ahead.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

Good afternoon and thanks for taking my question. My question was, of course, about the margins and you answered those, and thanks for that. About homeboost, would that be suitable for people with solar panels, for them to become able to completely disconnect from the grid?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

If they chose to do that, whether they have solar panels or not, they would be able to go on island mode, they'd be able to disconnect if that's what they wanted to do. It has the logic and the control to move loads back and forth between this unit and the utility feed that the person might be getting, but if they wanted to go on to island mode, yes, they can go off the grid completely, as long as they have a natural gas connection.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

But would it be able to do the variable production that's required for solar panels, the fact that solar panels will drop off in the evenings and so on, will it be able to intermittently start and stop?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

It can intermittently start and stop, yes.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

All right. I want to ask you, and this is an argument I've been having with my investors about your company, and it's a bit of a devil's advocate argument in that one may say that eBoost is kind of like a temporary solution for people that cannot yet connect to the grid and that nobody moves to electric just so they can generate electricity through a propane engine. How do you view this? How long will this market last? I know you're doing great right now. Does it have legs?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so that is the ultimate question. So, you know, there's two parts to it. One is that this grid gap or this period of time, which people three years ago thought wouldn't be more than three years, is going into, you know, I can't see it stopping for the next five years. It just keeps growing because of the difficulty that businesses are having in getting these kinds of connections. They've also seen the value as more, as we put more units out there, more school districts, more municipalities, they see the value and the optionality of mobility. And they look at it as that, you know, why am I spending all this money on fixed infrastructure when I can have a mobile solution for essentially the same price and then have the optionality of moving it, not moving it. If I lease the facility, I can still take it with me and things like that. In addition, is even if somebody can get a connection, and that's what the school district that we're delivering right now, their issue, and they're a major city, and you would think that the utility is kowtowing to a major, one of a country's largest cities, is that they can't get enough power even if they had a connection. They don't want to just trickle charge their buses. Then, you know, they're having buses sit for 40 hours to recharge themselves. That's not a tenable, that's not a solution for them. Their utilization rate plummets. So for them to fast charge as many buses as they want as quickly as they can, in the case of this particular system, they're doing eight buses at a time. We have eight chargers hanging off the trailer with our really large unit producing power on a mobile off-grid way. So they're not beholden to the utility at all. I don't know if that answers it for you, but that's the reality that we're finding.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

Okay, yeah, that does answer it. And just to be clear, I think I know the answer to that, but I want you on the record. I mean, even if they do have your solution that does have an internal combustion engine, there's still significant savings compared to diesel, right? I mean, natural gas is just cheaper in terms of energy per dollar.

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

You know, we never, I want to say never, because rarely, we never get it compared to diesel, really. It's compared to what, if we had a connection to the grid, what would it be? And this is still much cheaper. Gases is producing your own power on site. I mean, there's no transmission charges. There's no delivery charge of the power. It's for sure cheaper. Those that are coming up with this solution, you know, diesel defeats any kind of purpose. Meaning, if I spent the money to have an electric bus or a van to reduce emissions, it's kind of optically and realistically a little hypocritical to use diesel to charge it.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

Well, what I meant is that it's cheaper than having diesel trucks and putting diesel in the truck. Yes, it's cheaper than

speaker
Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

having diesel trucks. That's correct, by far.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

And diesel buses and so on. Correct. You are 100

speaker
Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

% correct. Yes.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

Thank

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

you for clarifying.

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Aristo Vakoski
Private Investor

You've answered all my questions. Good luck.

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

Thank you. Next question is from Howard Root, a private investor. Please go ahead.

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Howard Root
Private Investor

Good afternoon and congrats on the excellent progress. Thank you, Howard. I have two questions. One is on the distribution network. I mean, to me, it's impressive on these large orders you've gotten so quickly out of the box with a new product. It means that you've got credibility established. And your distribution, it seems like it's multilayered with distributors and other people outside the company working with it. Can you talk a little bit about how you see that growing and how you see that changing when you get the home eBoost or the home boost out there as well?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So thank you, Howard. That's true. I mean, we evolved as well. I mean, I don't want to say it's impossible, but it's close impossible for us to cover everything with our sales force. So, you know, we would never see the city of X on our own. We just don't have enough personnel out there. So we use a lot of channel partners slash distributors that act as the feed on the street. We do a lot of things directly as well. When it comes specifically to municipalities and states and things like that, we use a variety of distributors. Sometimes it's the bus dealers, the truck dealers themselves with corporate approval and confidence in the solutions that they're offering. It helps them move more electric trucks and buses. In the case of the investor owned businesses, that's so far to date a more direct approach. We need probably we have some intermediaries. We need more intermediaries and channel partners who are doing that. I don't even know if there's a real name for what they're doing. Energy development or things like that. Charging development integrators, one stop solutions, turnkey people and so forth. We need more of them because it's impossible. I mean, unless we hire 100 people to work all day all night, we can't see everything. On the home thing, that's a little bit of a work in progress. I have some ideas. Our team has some ideas of how best. We've sort of already tested the product from a marketing point of view with these different types of I don't want to reveal too much distributors and dealers within that industry. But I think like the original home boost product, the market is going to move us and shift us in ways that I can't anticipate right now from a distribution point of view.

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Howard Root
Private Investor

OK, thanks. That's helpful. Then my second question is kind of looking into 2026 and I know it's early and you guys got a lot of stuff on your plate. But as you look, you've got this rapidly growing e-boost product line out there. And then you're adding something that I would say has even more potential with home boost. And you've got pinch points all along the process from manufacturing, management time, marketing, sales, all of that. How do you see your focus in 2026? How big do you see home boost being as a percentage of your attention or percentage of your kind of your push in next year's efforts?

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Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so that's a great question. We're struggling with that all the time. So just to take some of it off the table, we've already because home boost will only be in call it in our minds, you know, and again, it's arbitrary four versions of it. So it's a much more standard product than we're used to on the on the traditional e-boost side. So we've already contracted sort of with with another manufacturer close to us to to make these for us initially at size and scale without duplicating them because otherwise then we're just adding capital expenditures and so forth and so on. So that's kind of a little bit off the table, which is helpful to us at price points that we think are favorable for everybody to be able to bring this product out to market. So we can really concentrate on the on the design engineering and the and the marketing and selling of this particular product. As far as management time, I would say that, you know, really starting now, it's occupying for me, for Walter, for Geo-Marikin. It's occupying probably 50 percent of our mind space because we believe the same thing that you just highlighted. We believe it could be a far larger, even more profitable product for us. So we're we're very excited. But, you know, the proof is always in the pudding. So we've got to do the work.

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

Great.

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Howard Root
Private Investor

Thank you. And I appreciate you taking my question. Thanks.

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Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

Of course. This concludes the question and answer session.

speaker
Brett Moss
Host, Hayden Invest Relations

I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing comments.

speaker
Nathan Mazurek
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you all for joining. Thank you all for your support. And we look forward to updating you all

speaker
Unknown
Representative from Lake Street Capital Markets

on our next earnings call. Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you again for your participation.

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