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Operator
Conference Operator

and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Praxis Precision Medicine's fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Dan Ferry, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

Good morning, and welcome to the Praxis Precision Medicine's fourth quarter and full year 2025 Financial Results and Business Update conference call. This call is being webcast live and can be accessed on the Investor section of Praxis' website at www.praxismedicines.com. Please note that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These may include statements about the company's future expectations and plans, clinical development timelines, and financial projections. While these forward-looking statements represent Praxis views as of today, they should not be relied upon as representing the company's views in the future. Praxis may update these statements in the future, but is not taking an obligation to do so. Please refer to Praxis' most recent filings of the Securities and Exchange Commission for discussion of certain risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. Joining us on today's call are Marcio Souza, President and Chief Executive Officer of Praxis, and Tim Kelly, our Chief Financial Officer. After updates on our key programs, we'll move to a brief Q&A session where Marcio and Tim will be joined by Steve Petro, President of Research and Development, and Megan Snezinski, Chief Operating Officer. With that, It's my pleasure to turn the call over to Marcio.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Dan. Good morning, and thank you for joining the PRAXIS fourth quarter 2025 conference call. Let me start by saying that 2025 was a remarkable year for PRAXIS. It was marked with the breadth of significant clinical achievements and regulatory advance across our portfolio. With positive redoubts and FDA interactions for elixir-cosmides, relutrigine, and vermotrigine, as well as accelerated development plan for Alzheimer's. Standing here today, we deliver on our goal to submit two NDAs, one for elixir-calcimide in essential tremor and one for elutridine in SCN2A and 8A DEs. Just like 2025, this year will continue to enhance our clinical portfolio and mark our transformation into a commercial company. Next quarter, We expect to have the top-line results for Power 1 for vomatogenin in focal epilepsy and the Alzheimer's in BRAVE data. In the second half of the year, we expect to complete enrollment for Power 2. The ML trial for litrogenin in broad disease is expected to serve as the base of an SMDA by next year. And those are only a fraction of the deliverables expected in the next 12 months. We have the drugs, the people, and the capital to deliver yet another transformational year, bringing innovative treatment to patients with CNS disorders. Let me now just dive a little bit on each one of the clinical programs. Now, focusing on ULIX Account My. Last October, we reported the positive top-line results from the Essential Tree Program, with both studies delivering clinically meaningful and statistically significant results. Study 1 met its primary and all key secondary endpoints, with Elixir showing meaningful improvements in the MADR11, in the rate of disease progress, PGI, and CGI. Study 2 also met its pre-specified primary endpoints, with Elixir demonstrating a superior maintenance of effects during the randomized withdrawal phase. This was the first time an investigational therapy designed specifically for patients with ET showed positive results in a comprehensive clinical program. Based on this positive data and the fact that there is no other specific therapy delivering such results as ulexacultamides, we were granted breakthrough designation by the FDA in December. Had a very productive pre-NDA meeting also in December with the FDA and worked diligently to prepare the NDA submission. We have recently completed the NDA submission to the FDA. Now, as we move towards expecting an approval in the near future, our preparations for the commercial launch for ElixirCult might be well underway. We estimate that more than 7 million people in the United States live with essential tremor, with about 2 million of them being in immediate need for therapy or an addressable population, as we call. And we're excited about the opportunity to deliver a therapy that can meaningfully improve their daily lives. As we interact with more neurologists in this space, we continue to hear this is a drug that meets a large unmet need in their practice, and their interest continues to improve towards the potential use of ulexacultamide when available in the future. We believe ulexacultamide has a peak potential of over $10 billion annually. Given the size of the population, the strength of the clinical data, the opportunity for responsible pricing that recognize the value of the drug, we have been building our commercial organization infrastructure, including key hires and core aspects of the pre-launch plan, including preparing a comprehensive medical education campaign, which we plan to launch at the upcoming American Academy of Neurology annual meeting in April. At AN, we also share additional data from the Essential 3 studies in multiple presentations. We look forward to interacting with our core audience in Chicago next quarter and share the exciting data from the Essential 3 program. Moving on to our epilepsy programs. We started this discussion with our relutrigine program in developmental and epileptic encephalopathies. a group of severe epilepsies characterized by developmental delays with early onset for which there are limited to no currently approved treatments. In December, at the annual meeting of the American Epilepsy Society, we presented data from the EMBOLD study in SN2A and 8AGEs. We delivered overwhelming efficacy. with relutrigine treatments leading to a clinically meaningful and statistically significant change in seizure and associated developmental endpoints, like disruptive behavior, alertness, and communication. Beyond impressive overall results, the effect of relutrigine was rapid, durable, and continued to deepen with time. Given the strong efficacy results and the favorable test profile, and the scoring relutrigine best in class potential, in alignment with the FDA, we have submitted the NDA earlier this year. It's worth mentioning that relutrigine has rare pediatric drug designation, making it eligible for the Pediatric Review Voucher Program upon approval. The initial addressable population for relutrigine for SCN2A and HAGs is roughly 10,000 patients in the US. However, there are currently over 200,000 patients for which we believe relutrigine could offer benefits. The ongoing NREL study is assessing relutrigine in the broader GE population and we're on track to complete enrollments in this study this year. If the NDA in SCN 2A and 8A we just submitted is approved, and the annual study is positive, we expect to submit a supplemental NDA for the treatment of broad DEs by 2027. We believe the full potential for literature in the DE space could be as large as $5 billion in annual revenue. Similarly to the efforts for ulexacultamide in essential tremor, we have initiated pre-launch activities, including key hires and building sufficient inventory for a successful expected launch for erythrogene. Our team has been accelerating the efforts to ensure patients have access to this potential first disease-modifying treatment for SCN2A and SCN8A. Moving on to vermatrogene. Our comprehensive energy program for vermatrogen, a next-generation functionally selective small molecule in development as a once-a-day treatment for adults with common epilepsies. At the December AF meeting, we shared the full data from our RADIANT Phase II study, where vermatrogen demonstrated its best in disease potential in patients with focal onset seizures. Vermatrogen had fast-acting efficacy with 58% of patients achieving at least 50% reduction in seizures at week one without the need for titration. This effect continues to increase with patients who proceeded to the RLE were achieving 100% median weekly seizure reduction at week nine, which was sustained through week 16. Additionally, we saw that vermatrogen improved efficacy on top of other common anti-seizure medications patients were taking. We are on track for multiple readouts from the pivotal studies for vermatrogen on the next 12 to 18 months. The next clinical update will be for Power 1, our study in focal onset seizures, which exceeded its original enrollment targets. We expect to share the top line results in the second quarter of this year. The second phase three study, PowerQ, has been rolling patients and we anticipate enrollments to be completed by the end of the year. Those two studies, if successful, will serve as the base of a new drug application for Fumatrogene. We're also on track to initiate the Power3 study, which will evaluate vermatrogen as a monotherapy in the first half of this year as well. Altogether, this is a very robust registrational program that we believe will demonstrate vermatrogen's potential to address the significant unmet needs of approximately 3 million people in the United States suffering from common epilepsies. potential to achieve over $4 billion in annual revenue. Turning on to our fourth program in the clinic, as a nursing. As nursing is being developed for the treatment of gain-of-function HCN2AEDs, a rare genetic epilepsy characterized by early-onset seizures and very detrimental developmental impacts. This past December, we have had a favorable meeting with the FDA, where the agents agreed to update the EMBRAVE-3 registration trial design, simplifying it by converting from the double-blind sham control design to a single-arm, baseline-controlled study, where approximately 30 patients will be enrolled. We are quickly enrolling the study and expect it to be completed later this year, with a potential NDA for all the nursing next year. While EMBRAVE-3 is enrolling, we have some additional data from the EMBRAVE study, Part A, or Phase 1-2 study evaluating the safety and efficacy of osinersin versus sham procedure. The trial is ongoing and we're on track to report the top-line results from the original nine patients in the first half of this year. Azunosa also has rare pediatric drug designation and would qualify for a pediatric review voucher upon approval. Once approved, we believe Azunosa has the potential for over $1 billion in annual revenue. In summary, 2025 was a year of major portfolio advancements as we enter our pre-commercial phase. We started 2026 strong with two NDA submissions, and we're positioned for another catalyst-rich year with multiple redoubts of our innovative pipeline. We're planning an R&D day next quarter to discuss our clinical programs and preclinical programs, and a commercial day to follow, where we highlight our launch strategy, readiness, and more aspects of the launch for Ulexacultimide and relitrigine. With a very strong balance sheet, we're well capitalized and focused on discipline of execution to deliver on the preclinical, clinical, and precommercial activities this year to come, while unlocking the more than $20 billion opportunities across our comprehensive CNS portfolio. With that, I'll hand over a call to our CFO, Tim Kelly.

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Tim Kelly
Chief Financial Officer

Tim? Thanks, Marcia. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining today's call. I'll provide a quick summary of our fourth quarter and full year financial results. 2025 was a year of continued investment into the pipeline while maintaining rigorous financial stewardship. In Q4, operating expenses totaled $97 million, broken down to $77.5 million for R&D and $19.5 million for G&A. That compares to Q4 of 2024, where total operating expenses were $71.4 million, broken down to $56.3 million for R&D and $15.1 million for G&A. For the full year, operating expenses totaled $326 million for 2025, compared to $209 million for 2024. Increases in both Q4 and full year were driven by an increased spend in our Cerebrum and Solidus platforms to progress the portfolio of clinical programs. As we go into 2026, we expect to have a significant increase in spend as we invest into our commercial launch activities that Marcy just discussed as well as continuing to progress the pipeline. We ended Q4 with $926 million in cash equivalents and marketable securities compared to $469 million as of December 31st, 2024. This increase of $457 million was primarily due to net proceeds from Praxis October 25 follow-on public offering and net proceeds from the out-the-market sales of common stock offset by cash used in operations. Our cash position was further strengthened through proceeds from a public offering in January this year, which yielded $621 million. When added to our year-end position, our pro forma cash is approximately $1.5 billion, which is expected to fund operations into 2028.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

With that, I will pass it back over to you, Marcio. Thank you, Tim. I'm going to now open the call for Q&A.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Shannon, would you compile the queue, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Yasmine Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

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Yasmine Rahimi
Piper Sandler Analyst

Good morning, team. Congrats to the outstanding timing of the filings, so congrats. Two questions, one directed to Tim and one for Marcio. Tim, if you could maybe walk us through the pre-commercial activities that are going on currently and what the cadence are going to be throughout 2026. That's very helpful. And then for Marcio, maybe help us understand sort of what additional new data we could be seeing at AAN and I'll jump back onto the queue for my colleagues to ask questions.

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Tim Kelly
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thanks very much, Yaz, and glad to be talking about what we're doing to prepare for two launches. As you can imagine, we're at the stage now where we're making some key hires and looking to build out the talent for our commercial organization. We've also been focusing on ensuring that we have sufficient inventory for what we expect will be good, strong launches, and we never want to run out and be sure that we've got it. Inventory on hand for all scenarios. That's a long lead time activity, so very well on hand to ensure that that's in good shape. And then also looking at for, particularly for Olexicalcimide, helping to improve awareness of the disease. And Marcio, in a moment, will talk about our activities at AAN and all the data we're sharing there. We're also looking at that at a time when we can start sharing more about the disease and help patients understand about the innovative therapies we're developing.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, no, thanks, Tim. Yeah, there's a lot going on, as you mentioned, right, in terms of making sure that not only the highest quality NDAs were submitted, as, of course, was always our priority, but now moving on to making sure there's move review with the agency, and then on the other side of that, the prescribers really understand, or potential prescribers really understand the disease in one hand, which they understand well, But there's obviously a good reminder there. And on the other end, the clinical data for the elixir and then the liturgy later in the year as well. In regards to the American Academy of Neurology meeting next quarter, we have about 15 different presentations going on at the meeting. It just speaks about the number of things across the company. A number of them are about the essential three program and essential tremor in general. What we're going to be doing there, as you will see, and I hope to see you there in Chicago, is oral presentations on the clinical data. And actually, it's very nice for that because the presentations are reasonably long, so we can go into a fair bit of detail on the clinical program, which, of course, very important for the 13,000 or so neurologists that are our audience that are going to be there, also to expands the understanding on the overall community of these very strong clinical data sets. So we're going to be discussing, like, other aspects, like the response on the drug and what happens to these patients and just how meaningful it is, the combination of all the endpoints, but particularly the primary measure here, that's the MAGL-11. And you're going to see throughout all the presentations there are very robust number of new data points. We put a lot out there. So it's not to say that there is any scarcity of data on the Essential 3 program, but there's definitely more geared towards the future prescriber here that is the neurologist. So incredibly excited, very grateful to the scientific community of A&M to giving us the podium there to present this strong clinical data.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ritu Baral with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

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Athena Chin
TD Cowen Analyst

Hi, guys. This is Athena Chin on for Ritu. Thanks for taking the question. I have another one on ULIXA. You previously indicated that the label may include alternative titration schedules. What is the status on this? And are you currently running additional studies to support this? If the label doesn't include these schedules, how will you be educating and guiding prescribers upon launch? And then I have another follow-up.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Thanks, Satyana. So maybe I'll break it down, if I may, your questions in two parts, right? So we've been discussing, since you asked about education, and surprisingly, I would say there's very little education needed here. We've been presenting the data for advisor boards, for advisors, consultation meetings to a number of key opinion leaders in the country, very top key opinion leaders, and it is very clear that they see that they're incredibly robust and very, very easy to deal with the potential tolerability for a subset of patients here that we know might have that. Now, going back to the matter of the label, as we previously discussed, we propose not only submitted a proposed label to the FDA, not only the standards titration that was done in the clinical study, right? So seven days, 20 milligrams, seven days at 40, and then seven days at a stable dose of 60. But also an alternative that we discussed with the FDA. I think as we move forward, as you continue to engage with the agents here, it's now their view has to prevail in terms of what the final label is going to be. So it would be pretentious to us to say what's going to happen there. But it came in the hills of discussions with them and alignments. The agents was incredibly clear with us that they did not expect us to conduct clinical studies pre-approval on this regard. So as we always respect the opinion of the FDA and the guidance they give, of course we're not doing. I believe, and now that's my interpretation, that is because this is really not a safety issue, right? This, that is Some tolerability that happens on a subset of patients, it's very quick, it resolves very quickly, and the efficacy, most importantly, is very strong. So when you put it from a benefit-risk perspective, that is both our interest, the prescriber's interest, and the agent's mandate, that is all maintained quite nicely. We're going to see how this progresses during the review, and we're very enthusiastic about the ability to have serving not only the 70% or so of patients that stay and do really well, but hopefully 100% of the patients that try this drug.

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Athena Chin
TD Cowen Analyst

Got it. And as to the commercial prep for both Relutragine and Ulexa, how much capital allocation should we be thinking about between the two programs?

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Tim Kelly
Chief Financial Officer

I think in terms of allocation, you can imagine that with Alexa being a much broader market, we will be probably putting more of the allocation there. I think we're looking at, as I said, the disease awareness campaign, probably a bigger field for us as we get into that part of the work as well. The inventory bill is going to be a bit bigger. So we want to be sure that I go back to the old line, you only get one chance to launch a drug, and we want to be sure we're investing appropriately for a great launch. I think with the relutragine, when we look at that market, particularly focused initially on the 2A and 8A population, it is a bit more focused. So there's a lot of disease awareness for us to be doing there. It's a more focused effort, though, with those physicians, but we want to be laying the groundwork for the indication expansion that we hope will come in 2027 with the Emerald study. So it's a bit of a strategic move in how we will do the commercial prep for relutragine also.

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Athena Chin
TD Cowen Analyst

Got it. Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of with Guggenheim. Your line is now open.

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Guggenheim Analyst
Analyst

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. I have two questions with regard to the Power 3 study. Can you just articulate to us how will that study help you move towards the front line setting or to in FOS, so that's one. And then the second question is around the review timeline. So we, I think Marcy will be good if you can address the review timeline for both the NDAs. We do get questions from investors in terms of priority review or not, so we'll be good to sort of address it today. Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Yacheng. So starting with Power 3, right? So just a reminder of what we are trying to accomplish here. So, power one as the, like, first study here for, towards registration for barmatergine, reading out as we just narrowed here in Q2, the study enrolled a fair bit more than the original 230 patients that were planned. So, very, very happy with how enthusiastic the investigators were on enrolling patients on this study, particularly, like, when you consider compatibly how well this study enrolls. Power 2, as we're enrolling quite nicely right now as well, would be the second registrational. But when you look into the markets, and it's something quite interesting, what goes on in vocal onset seizures, you do have, I would say, parts of this market that is the more refractory patients or going to even argue hyperrefractory, being supertreated, multiple ASMs, really struggling for years and years, possibly decades here. And that's where most of drug developments and most of what the level four epilepsy centers, the key opinion leaders in epilepsy have been focusing. But when you go to the rest of the market, and it's probably a little facetious to call rest because it's the majority of the markets, or the patients that are 70, 80% of the patients with vocal onset seizures, they still can't strive They still can't carry on with their lives. There's all sorts of restrictions because they're having breakthrough seizures from time to time, and they're really not doing well. That market has stayed untapped until now. So speaking with those physicians and people who treat a significant number of patients, which it is a different subset of the ones we're looking, the needs there is for a drug that they can trust and understand how to remove the treatments, so they can be confident and they are very enthusiastic about formatrogen for that matter. So we've been in consultation with them for finalizing this design. We're getting this off the ground very soon. We thought today was the day to reinforce and celebrate submitting to NDAs. So we're going to be talking about that more in the near future. But what it does to the drug, while not required for registration, right, this is not a requirement, as is the ever-evolving requirement for registration in the United States, as we are seeing this week. So we're very excited about what's to come. But it is something we can see as moving to first line, potentially, this drug in the future, which is from a serving patients is what we all should be aiming for. We're just in a very privileged position that vermatergine might be the drug that allows patients and physicians to do that. On your second question about the review timelines, you can imagine that the decisions we have to make are multiple folds, right? So one, obviously the timing of the submissions is now in the past. The second is the entire understanding and relationship and workload and so forth with the agency. A good reminder here that YODN1 or Division of Neurology 1 and 2 are two different divisions. There's a lot of shared resource. We have E2 and E8 at the same time with them. Very obviously, relutrogen is easier. I'm going to say not because it's easier for a clinical or anything like that. It's just much, much less data by single study, rare indication, and that by itself from a workload perspective is smaller. So, we decided to request a priority review for that application, but we decided not to request for lexacalpamide for multiple reasons, right? Those that I just mentioned, but there's a broader business reason about the time of the launch and the maximization of the revenues over time for this drug, particularly around PIC, particularly around payer and overall dynamics of discounting and so on that happens a year later in the launch. So on a drug that can be and will be as big as ulexacultamide, we can't pick up the dollars and forget about the millions on this one. So I think we need to be, and we were very focused strategically on the overall value here.

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Guggenheim Analyst
Analyst

Very good. Thank you so much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jun Li with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

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Jun Li
Truist Securities Analyst

Hey, guys. Congrats on all the progress, and thanks for taking our questions. I just wanted to clarify the response from the prior question that you just answered. So, you mentioned business reasons for not asking for priority review for at least Keltamide and ET. Just to clarify, is that because asking for standard review as opposed to priority review would result almost a year delay in being forced to negotiate under IRA. That's question number one. Question number two, you know, looking forward to your presentations at AEN, can we expect any long-term follow-up data? The reason I ask is long-term efficacy came up as a key point for our payer KOLs regarding reauthorization of OLXA and ET. And the last question is, you know, in the past you've telegraphed around $50,000 list price for liskeltamide. Is that still the case, and can you help us understand your thought process behind the pricing strategy? Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Jian, I think you're in the right direction there, right, in terms of when you're looking at and we're forecasting this drug. Of course, there are multiple dynamics, and you just named some of them, right, like what payers and reauthorization and, like, potential step-adds and you name it. The Inflation Reduction Act and the dynamics of the act right now is an important consideration as well as a very important consideration. This is a heavily Medicare Part D population, so we want to make sure we're both responsible on how we're launching, we're also maximizing and giving the proper value for the drug, and that includes looking to the life cycle of evolution of the current iteration of the act, when it impacts, when it kicks in, I believe that's where you're going there, that is a pretty big difference in value depending on when that negotiation happens. And it was a key consideration on our filing strategy. The second on the data to be presented I think multiple fold, yes, we're always, like, going to be presenting more and more data to reinforce the short-term and long-term value of ULIX accultimized in essential tremor. One point we believe there's still room to explore here is really how strong the data is. I know you recently spoke to some payers and, like, payer organizations. groups, and if I understand correctly, they agree with how strong this data is and how high the potential for this drug is. But what is the understanding is not clear yet in the market because we haven't put this data out there. It's just how deep the effect is on a very large proportion of patients. And when you look into drugs, it's not one size fits all. So we want to make sure that gets reinforced, that gets holistically reviewed, and While we're very excited about having our principal investigators presenting this data to their peers, they've been thrilled with the execution, with the results, and I think now is the time to let them take the stage and present this data as key opinion leaders in the field. So stay tuned. I know we're trying to cover a lot in this call, but stay tuned for April. I'm sure we're going to be pleased.

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Jun Li
Truist Securities Analyst

Thank you so much, guys. Looking forward.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you.

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Jun Li
Truist Securities Analyst

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Say with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

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Andrew Say
Jefferies Analyst

Hey, good morning. Congrats on all the progress. Appreciate the updates. Maybe shifting to Raluca Jean, actually. You're pursuing this broader label, the Emerald Study, for all DEEs. So how many different DEE patients in the Phase III does the FDA want to give you a broad label? And how many different DEEs have you enrolled so far? And secondly, for that study as we think about what you want to see. Is it fair that you might be expecting efficacy to be similar or even stronger than what you saw in SCN2AA and maybe explain why? Thanks.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks Andrew. So if you look into Emerald right now, let me separate a couple of things there. So one, I mentioned in the remarks and then Tim mentioned as well in one of the answers, the goal here at this point in time is to get that SNGA by next year. And it should give you the confidence on what's happening on the study right now. Really incredible interest, incredible enthusiasm and engagement from the physician that are referring to the sites or participating in sites. in this study. We took a very basic approach, right? If you go and you look into the most recent definition of these, Dr. Sheffer's recently published around this, and really going back to the basics, right? What is a developmental epileptic encephalopathy? What are the drivers? Like, what should we be treated? And reliterating sits, like, on that junction of really helping the broadest population, at least hypothetically right now since we're going to have to see the results in D. So we took the approach of phenotypically defined versus genotypically defined as patients for this study. What I can tell you right now without saying too much is that it is a very diverse group of patients that we have on this study. Both enrolled studies and patients in screening, they're very diverse. not completely unexpected or unexpected at all. And when we position and we discuss this study with the agency, and I can never speak on their behalf, but I tell you our interpretation, is that the idea here is to treat the disease, is not to treat the cause of the disease. We'll be pretentious to enough of us to try to do that. And the understanding is that you cannot have a seizure without participation of Sergeant General in the neurons and therefore this is like omnipresent type of mechanism that we can use. So that is the definition right now. There is no subgroups or there are no quotas for different, if I may, for different etiologies. So we're really looking into like an overall effect. When you go back to the last part of your question and what to expect here. We need to go back to translation. We need to go back to the preclinical data since we do not have the clinical data yet. And when you go back there and we look into all different models that we tested, all the fundamental electrophysiology and basic biology of the channel deposition, the physical density of the channels in a critical juncture in the neurons, what we see is like quite overwhelming preclinical efficacy. So when we had that before on SCN2A, on the different models with SCN8A on the aldogenic model, I think the way we're looking at that is like those are very good translational models. Now we have clinical data on those indications that translated well. So we expect to translate well as well. I think would be a little bit too early to guide on how well the translation would be. But you've got to remember, from an overall DE perspective, there's basically nothing for this patient as well. So while I'm incredibly excited about showing results maybe the same, maybe better than what we're seeing on 2A and 8A, it's absolutely not needed to deliver a very fundamental change on the way these patients are treated right now. But as I said in the past, we're going to see this soon enough. So we're just going to keep our heads down executing on emeralds, and soon enough we're going to be discussing, hopefully, significant benefit for patients on that population.

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Andrew Say
Jefferies Analyst

Makes sense. Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

See you back.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Douglas Sal with H.C. Wainwright.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

Your line is now open. Douglas, your line is open. Please check your mute button.

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Douglas Sal
H.C. Wainwright Analyst

Oh, sorry about that. I was on mute. Marcio, maybe the little bit of a follow-up on that last question in terms of relutrogen and then I have a follow-up on vermatrogen. But just sort of when you anticipate utilization, do you see sort of utility across the entire D spectrum and even and indications where there are sort of ASOs or sort of more targeted therapies being developed, and arguably sort of volutrogen will sort of become a workhorse used, you know, regardless of what other therapies may also be deployed for a particular patient population. Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, no, that's a very good question, though. The workhorse, probably I wouldn't use that term, but I'm glad you did. Because I think that's one way to look into a drug in a toolbox, like relutrigine, where physicians would have that available that they don't have right now. They have to ask too many questions, too many tries. Unfortunately, a lot of those patients don't have that time to keep trying and optimizing. And quite importantly, like there's, what, 20, 25 drugs that are normally tried in this population. Virtually none of them have been tried officially, like with randomized studies, properly developed in pediatric populations or in adolescents, on early adults here. So we never talk about that other side of label use, that we really don't know what you're doing on those populations. So what we hear a lot from physicians here globally is, that certainty of the drug that's being rationally developed for this indication. So there's a lot of enthusiasm there. Now, to think that this is a silver bullet would be completely absurd. There's not such a thing as a silver bullet in medicine. I think we all wish there was, but there isn't. So we do see this as kind of an overall background therapy For some patients, ideally it would be monotherapy. For other patients, they're going to continue in other drugs. You mentioned ASOs particularly. I think ASOs are getting consolidated as kind of the second workhorse. I think we're finally beyond some of the dreams we had about other modalities on gene therapy and really understanding that that's a very, very good mechanism. So combinations between ASOs, for example, and others, and Ritrogena, we expect to be the norm. We look forward for the moments where these discussions are about how the use is happening versus all these hypotheticals because these patients don't have a lot of time and we're really excited about helping them.

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Douglas Sal
H.C. Wainwright Analyst

Okay. Great, Marcio. That's really helpful. And then just for Batrogene, I'm just curious, in the RADIANT study, as patients go sort of past the initial point and we're in the open-label extension. I'm just curious, have you gotten data or seen data of patients who are withdrawing some of their background meds, sort of a little bit of a preview or look, if you will, into the Power 3 study? And in particular, patients who are maybe able to pull off, you know, sort of some of the more problematic, you know, sort of efficacious, but perhaps more sort of less tolerable drugs like sinoblimate or carbamazepine, et cetera. Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We're seeing across the boards reduction, elimination, removal of background therapies as patients continue to have experience on the open label with vermatozine. Physicians are very excited about that possibility. I would say patients are more excited about that. As you can imagine, of course, efficacy is king here, but the queen is safety for these patients. And it is very hard for them to daily operate as humans when they are on all those medications. So it's always very important. So not only that, I think one of the drugs you just mentioned has just been put on a new warning for drug-induced liver injury. So you've got to think about the long-term impacts of these drugs. And being permetrogen, at least so far, like so clean, it's quite important for these patients as well. So we're seeing more and more enthusiasm. Of course, every time you remove a drug, the first question you need to ask is, what happens to the primary measure? What happens to seizures? And I'm very happy to preliminarily report they were seeing exactly what we were expecting to, right? Maintenance of seizure control while really not being necessary to use. I believe you asked this from a clinical perspective, but I'm going to jump into here, into the commercial perspective. As you believe, the value proposition of by the very first time on a drug that you can sequentially reduce the use of other drugs is very different. then a drug that is just from the top get used for a little bit and maybe removed. So very excited. I think we're going to have more data and more discussions to talk about that as when we have the Power One results as well and giving an overall program updates.

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Douglas Sal
H.C. Wainwright Analyst

Okay, great. That's super helpful, and congrats on the progress. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Francois with LifeSide Capital. Your line is now open.

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Francois
LifeSci Capital Analyst

All right. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the progress. It's quite a 2025 for you guys. So maybe on Elsa Nerson, there's a lot to touch on, but I don't think much has been touched on this one. Can you help us, you know, Embrave data is coming soon, so just maybe set expectations there a little bit. There's so much going on with the company that maybe help us understand why it's so important that the, you know, the update on just having a single arm comparison for Embrave 3 and what that means.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, thanks for that, Frankie. The, so, ELSA, as we call, like, ELSA nursing, it's like, it definitely sometimes gets the backseat on these questions, so I appreciate. What we see in a sense, right, linking your questions to those questions, this is like an ecosystem. All these drugs are all going to be used. They're going to be different case. We use one more, the other less, or combinations, and you name it in the future. So we have this cohort right now, nine patients, three to one, randomized to sham or drug. Our intention there was to continue to understand the safety, the efficacy, the PK of this drug. But we're very excited because every time you have control data independently or even open label data independently of the number of patients is yet another opportunity for us to understand the drug impacts. We know the study went really well with these patients, like did really well from a safety perspective since there we can monitor like generally, which is not a given, right, in any given disease. And we believe that it can be quite informative. The FDA left the door open for us on the discussions we had about the overall value of the data sets on the overall product. So we wanted to make sure we are very respectful and we're mindful of that, but it can have a very high value depending on the results here in the next few months. Now, when you look into the, we're very pleased and slightly surprised that the agent was really pushing us to actually get BRAVE3 to be controlled on baseline. I think they're definitely putting their money where their mouth is in terms of accelerating drug development for drugs with a high potential translatability, plausible mechanism, and this drug fits right in, all of that. We did switch the study globally to a single arm, with the patients randomizing, well, I guess not randomizing, now they're dosing on the study, and it's been like great experience with all the PIs and all the patients globally. So a little bit longer, On the timeline, it's not really long, biotech years, but long for us since there's a lot going on. But we do expect to be done with this study this year as well, which will potentially get another, yet another NGA in the near future. Very different positioning. As you can imagine, commercially very complementary to the relative gene efforts. They were doing same prescriber population, overall same, patient population, so we can see how synergistic this can be on the overall life cycle of the company.

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Francois
LifeSci Capital Analyst

That's very helpful. And then on Uxacalcamide, I don't think you mentioned anything about ex-US efforts. I was just wondering, such a big market here. I assume ET is everywhere else. Any thoughts there that you can share? And then the launch, obviously without priority review, this is maybe a little premature, but you've had so many trials and, you know, so many patients on this. I'm just wondering in terms of line of sight, you know, in terms of a launch trajectory off the bat, do we know where these patients are or, you know, any code that would be helpful?

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So maybe the easiest part of the question here, absolutely no. Where these patients are, I think we have daily motivation as patients keep calling our IR line, keep sending us messages, keep reminding us to keep pushing, that they're waiting. It's quite motivating for me and for the rest of the team to keep moving there. And just like the millions of patients that we have mapped to prescribers in the U.S. That, in a sense, I think it answers the second question, or the first question that I'm answering second. While there is huge unmet need outside of the U.S., and we appreciate that, and we are very compassionate in relation to that, the focus of the company has to be in the U.S. right now. We were laser focus on making sure the highest possible quality NDA was submitted. Now we are laser focused that the highest possible quality launch is done for this. And when looking to the magnitudes of this launch, I think it would be ill-conceived and intended for us to get distracted at this point in time with other geographies. Very good trajectory, very good number of patients, as you can imagine, an open label extension right now, which would expect it would transition right away to commercial. Other pools of patients that we believe are going to be right before, and then just the spontaneous demands that we are seeing piling up on top of our database already for the launch. So we don't want to get over our skis here, but this is definitely

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

frenzy towards a successful launch. Excellent. Thank you. That's it for me.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Amy Fadia with Needham & Company. Your line is now open.

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Amy Fadia
Needham & Company Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the submissions, both the submissions this month. My question is on Vometragine and regarding how, what you assumed for your peak revenue potential, particularly regarding utilization in first line, and if you could provide some color on how you see utilization in earlier lines of therapy impacting persistency of patients and duration of treatment, and how will the power program, you know, help you build the clinical data that supports or provides some color on how long patients stay on treatment as they get treated with Vometragine and early-align cell therapy? Thank you.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

No, thanks.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ami. The, so the retention we are seeing right now, right, as an early indicator, of what you are asking, it's incredibly high. And once we talk about follow-up results, we're going to be able to talk about that as well. Patients not only participating on these studies, but really staying on the long run. So that gives us an early flavor of how retention in overall commercial is going to be. And of course, they're staying on drug differently from other drugs and different from other trials because they are having a benefit and because they're having a safe experience with this drug. The way we currently forecast the movements between third line, second line, first line is actually very responsible, I would say. So we're not looking for this at day one of launch. We're not even looking to this at year one of launch. We know it takes time for these things to happen. We know that the overall penetration is not like the highest. When you look into our big revenue right around $4 billion or so in overall, you can imagine that we couldn't just be hyper-penetrating the first line because otherwise this would be much, much higher than what we have right now. So there is a huge potential there for upsides, as you can imagine, but at the same time, there are many firsts that happen for us. in the last few years. I think we're always very responsible to say what we knew and what we didn't. And I think what we know right now is that there's incredible interest on utilizing this drug. What we don't know is the dynamic of that. So we are really keeping, I would say, very tempered our enthusiasm in terms of how the penetration is going to be there. And that's reflected on our

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

conservative to a realistic one could call big revenue right now.

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Amy Fadia
Needham & Company Analyst

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Scorney with Baird. Your line is now open.

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Brian Scorney
Robert W. Baird Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I guess we'll get some guidance on NDA acceptance, but wanted to just get your preliminary thoughts on if the review division has given any indication on an advisory committee for either relutrigine or ulexa. I mean, it seems that adcoms are getting more rare under this current iteration of the FDA, and relutrigine's mechanism seems pretty straightforward with the data. It probably wouldn't require one, but thoughts on ulexa in particular?

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, no indication whatsoever at this point in time. One wouldn't expect much of an indication before day 60s and day 74 interactions with the agency, but there is no indication right now, Brian.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

Great, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jay Olson with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.

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Jay Olson
Oppenheimer Analyst

Oh, hey, congrats on all the progress, and thank you for taking our question. As you plan your prelaunch activities for both Ulixa and Relutragene, can you talk about the potential synergies you can leverage between these two launches, and then eventually how those synergies could help set up your future launches for Metrogene and Elsinirsen? Thank you.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Certainly. Certainly. So I'll take from the borrowing side, right? From an infrastructure perspective, back office perspective, lots of synergy and how things are set up. And we've been doing a lot of that on the backgrounds, like how the systems are set up and so on. Until not that far in the past, we were actually considering a lot more synergy in the fields as well and on the approach to the markets. Because we believed before the EMBOLS positive results last year that we would have a little bit more time with Ruletra gene, so we would be able to leverage that. And that changed a lot once we are now really launching two drugs in about the same time. While that is a very significant overlap in, I'm going to call zip codes, right, like hospitals that have or clinics that have very high overlap of patients with ET and GEs or focal, we don't believe that it's prudent right now to take any distractions or taking a go-to-market strategy for both, for individually for GEs and individually for essential tremor to maximize each one of them. Now, since your question extrapolated to the future, Jay, when you're looking to like focal set seizures, for example, generalized seizures, you name it, other things that might come in the future, there is very, very high overlap between prescribers for the majority of the epilepsy patients today and the majority of the essential tremors today. the markets so you can see how a practice presence might be beneficial at that point in time now we are talking maybe two or three years from now uh and that they're going to be maximizing that now let me bring back to like 60 days or so from now when you're going to be in chicago with all these prescribers all right uh if if we were to count the universe of prescribers coming to the annual meeting of the Academy of Neurology, we're talking about over 70% of the prescriptions for ET and FOCO in the U.S. are present at that meeting. So that is a natural overlap here. We're just going to be maximizing that overlap more a few years from now than a few months from now.

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Jay Olson
Oppenheimer Analyst

Great. Thank you. Congrats again.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of , with BTIG. Your line is now open.

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Unnamed BTIG Analyst
Analyst

Morning, guys. Congrats on the NDA submissions. Three questions on my end. First, can you provide an update on the essential tremor patient database? How is that already validated, the size of the ET market? The FDA's default position is that one adequate and well-controlled study combined with confirmatory evidence will serve as the basis of marketing authorization of novel products. How do you think about that with regards to vermatrogene and FOS? And then my third and final question is, how should we think about the timing of relutrogene emerald top line? Would an interim analysis be a possibility for emerald? Thank you so much.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

Thanks, Candice.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

I tried to go through questions here if I understood them correctly. Right, so on, and I think I missed the very first one, so I might ask you to repeat which one was on ET.

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Unnamed BTIG Analyst
Analyst

Yeah, the first one was, can you provide an update on your essential tremor patient database? Oh, yes, the database. How is that already validated besides the ET market?

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so we'll continue to both validate and grow, and I think we intentionally. didn't talk about this today since now we are moving from the clinical focus one to the commercial focus efforts, and we're going to give like a larger update at our commercial day in the near future there. So I'm going to keep you holding your breath a little bit in relation to that. I'm going to go to the Emerald and then go back to the second question. So, of course, there's always an opportunity for the entrant. It's not the current plan. for Emeralds, and the reason why it's not a current plan is really the pace of enrollments in Emeralds right now. I think we're being realistic slash conservative about the timelines today, but that is really a very fast pace of enrollment that might not allow for that. And then on the last one and how we think about generation of evidence vis-a-vis the Commissioner, like New England Journal of Medicine yesterday publication. We applaud it. I think it can be and will be. I have the ultimate trust on our country that's going to be used responsibly. And we believe that in drugs where very clearly, like epilepsy, very clearly the second study was not that necessary in the past. Those are good case studies and tests for the future. We could not possibly be trying to guide you today that that's going to be the standard for our drugs. There's a lot of water that needs to go under that bridge, but we are enthusiastic about what that can do for drug development and for practice, particularly in the near future, so stay tuned.

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spk00

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Justin Walsh with Jones Trading. Your line is now open.

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Justin Walsh
JonesTrading Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking the question. With your clinical successes, have you been seeing increased attention paid to your Cerebrum platform? And related to that, can you remind us how both Cerebrum and Solitus are differentiated in their ability to select quality candidates for your pipeline?

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We do. As you can imagine, that is a thing just in like a renaissance, maybe I would say, on understanding that the best mechanisms to address a lot of these diseases through antisense oligonucleotides. So we're seeing a lot of interest across the board, actually. On this, you're going to hear more in the near future about how we're going to maximize. I also believe that there's a different way. We talked about standards today. I talked about plausible mechanism today. There are different things there to maximize. We always follow two pillars, right? The biology and what is the best way to address. and then the business on the other side. Without business, biology is irrelevant. Without biology, business is irrelevant. So I think we try to do both of them, and that's why we're here today discussing the successes and the future success.

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Dan Ferry
Investor Relations

So I think that is, stay tuned, but there are going to be a lot more on that platform as well.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Huang with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

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David Huang
Deutsche Bank Analyst

Hi there. Thanks for taking my question. So maybe the first one on alexicalcimide in essential tremor. Could you just discuss a little bit about the distribution of the prescriber base? How well do you understand, you know, whether these prescribers will be based in, let's say, academic centers versus community centers? This is a product that would be prescribed by general neurologists broadly. And then one on vermatrogene. As we think about the evolving landscape in focal epilepsy, there's several potassium channel-focused therapies that are in late-stage development and potentially coming to market soon. How do you think vermatrogene fits in amongst those products, and what would docs look at when selecting a therapy? Thanks a lot.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Dave. The distribution, and I'll say the distribution of patients and the distribution of drug and the prescribing patterns, very well understood. I think we've been talking about that for a bit. It was one of the very first functions and knowledge that we built in the company. I would arrogantly tell you that we have an exquisite understanding on this. And each one of the physicians that have case in the U.S. right now is the majority, the vast majority, general neurologists. And they're very eager and willing to engage with us. I think on VORMA and the competitive landscape, this was not and never going to be a zero-sum game. We're welcome. We are cheering for the next readouts on the space coming up soon. And we believe that that is really, it's in the best interest of patients that there are multiple positive readouts and drugs, and we can use them. And we just see the path to first line only happens with formatrogen. So, competitively, welcome. Going to have some competition on the refractory patients on the third line, but there's no competition on the earlier lines. Yep. Thanks for our question.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Burnett with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

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Ben Burnett
Wells Fargo Analyst

Great. Thank you so much. I want to come back to an earlier question on elixircaltamide and just the potential to explore titrating patients. I think you mentioned an alternative titration protocol. I'm curious if you could give us a little more color on this, and I guess would this alternative titration protocol start patients at a lower dose And then secondly, you also talked about standard review for elixir calcimide, and I think you walked through a couple sort of business reasons for that. But it feels like it also would give you some time to maybe iron out a titration protocol, and was that also a consideration?

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks, Ben. No, there was not a consideration, actually. I'll say there was not an important consideration. Of course, it's always up to the FDA if they want to discuss more. We had a very robust discussion about that topic with the agents before. It was very good to see that this is not a major concern, but there's obviously an interest from us and from them when there is an efficacious drug that we try to actually expose and get the maximum amount of patients. That is the idea. It is not a lower dose, starting at 20 milligrams. It's just staying at 20 milligrams for longer. Because what we see here is what looks like it's really just a few days that they stay longer on those that tend to subside the side effects, and then they have the opportunity to have the effects. So that's the idea there. I think, of course, there's thousands of things that can come up in conversations with the agency, but that was not one of them that we were planning as a main conversation for sure.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to Marcio Souza for closing remarks.

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Marcio Souza
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, everyone. I think we've run a little bit even over a lot of time, so I appreciate you all hanging in with us here. The enthusiasm shared by all the analysts and our shareholders can say how much I appreciate and all of us here at Praxis appreciates the patience that participate in all these studies, that continue to engage with us as we are here very humbly submitting to NDAs, which I don't believe has ever been done by a company in our stage on the same quarter. The real motivation for everyone that worked like days and nights on the last several years, but particularly the last few months, as being the fact that there is someone, as we say, outside of the door that we don't know that needs these drugs. So I'm just going to dedicate these moments to all of them and thank them for participating in our studies. Looking forward to interacting with all of you soon, and thanks for tuning in.

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Operator
Conference Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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