This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

PubMatic, Inc.
2/26/2026
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Pubmatic's fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. My name is Reece, and I will be your Zoom operator today. Thank you for your attendance today. And as a reminder, this webinar is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Stacey Clements.
Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to POMATIC's earnings call for the fourth quarter and full year 2025. This is Stacey Clements, and I'll be your operator today. Joining me on the call are Rajiv Goel, co-founder and CEO, and Steve Pantelik, CFO. Before we get started, I have a few housekeeping items. Today's prepared remarks have been recorded, after which Rajiv and Steve will host live Q&A. If you plan to ask a question, please ensure you've set your Zoom to display your full name and firm, and use the raise hand function located at the bottom of your screen. A copy of our press release can be found on our website at investors.podmatic.com. I would like to remind participants that during this call, management will make forward-looking statements, including without limitations, statements regarding our future performance, market opportunity, growth strategy, and financial outlook. Forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions regarding our business, the economy, and future conditions. These forward-looking statements are subject to inherent risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict. You can find more information about these risks, uncertainties, and other factors in our forms filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available at investors.podmatic.com, including our most recent Form 10-K and any subsequent filings on Forms 10-Q or 8-K. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by the forward-looking statements. We caution you therefore against relying on any of these discussed today is as of February 26, 2026, and we do not intend and undertake no obligation to update any forward review statement, whether as a result of new information, future developments, or otherwise, except as may be required by law. In addition, today's discussion will include references to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP land income, cash flow from operations, and free cash flow. These non-GAAP measures are presented for supplemental informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our press release. And now I will turn the call over to Rajiv.
Thank you, Stacey, and welcome, everyone. We delivered an exceptionally strong fourth quarter with revenue and adjusted EBITDA ahead of guidance, healthy margins, and strong cash flow. Our results highlight continued growth in our underlying business, our leadership position in AI solutions, and the durability of our business model. For the full year, CTV grew over 50% year-over-year, excluding political, and Activate activity grew over 3x. Emerging revenues, which include Activate, Commerce Media, and New AI Solutions, nearly doubled over 2024 and now represent nearly 10% of total revenues. Over the past year, we made decisive moves to reposition Pubmatic for renewed, profitable growth. Those actions are bearing fruit and have directly contributed to our performance over the last two quarters. They have strengthened our competitive moat and have positioned us to deliver accelerated, double-digit percentage growth for the second half of 2026. These moves represent the first critical steps of our five-year roadmap designed to reaccelerate growth, expand margins, and compound long-term shareholder value. This roadmap marks an important turning point for Pubmatic and coincides with a pivotal transformation in the industry driven by AI. In fact, AI, in the form of agentic advertising, has emerged as a new and incremental tailwind to our business. Advertising is entering a new phase, one defined by AI-driven, autonomous systems operating in real time. We sit at the center of a highly competitive, millisecond-level auction environment where value is determined by measurable outcomes such as yield, performance, and efficiency. Fematic is enabling AI adoption across the open Internet. Our proprietary data, scaled infrastructure, and thousands of deep integrations across buyers and publishers form a real-time execution layer that cannot be replicated by vibe-coded software. Our leadership in agentic advertising gives us confidence we can shape this next evolution of digital advertising, and we are investing and executing aggressively to capture that opportunity. In October, we co-founded the Ad Context Protocol alongside Yahoo, LG Ad Solutions, Raptive, and others, setting industry standards for safe and interoperable agent-to-agent interaction. In December, we partnered with Butler Till and Geloso Beverage Group to launch the industry's first fully-autonomous end-to-end adjuncted campaign, proving that Pubmatics agents can execute media plans and optimize outcomes on behalf of advertisers. The campaign delivered more than 5x cost efficiencies, enabling significantly more advertisers' spend to shift directly into working media. Following this success, the agency quickly launched a second campaign, In addition to delivering top-tier agent performance, our AI-powered platform handles more complexity with significantly less manual effort. We are cutting campaign setup time by 87% and speeding up issue resolution time by 70%. This means faster activations, higher productivity, and better outcomes for our customers. In January, agent-to-agent transactions became a scalable reality. At the Consumer Electronics Show, We unveiled a Gentic OS alongside our launch partners, including WPP Media, Foxtel Media, and multiple independent agencies and tech partners. As Skyler McGill, head of video and programmatic at independent agency WPromote, put it, we're witnessing the biggest transformation in programmatic since real-time bidding. Our work with Pumatic puts us at the forefront of defining how human strategy and autonomous systems converge to unlock new capabilities and personalization and scale. Now building on this momentum, we recently delivered one of the industry's first agentic CTV advertising campaigns with the Vovo MaxLead in Europe, integrating directly with the largest independent media agency in the Netherlands. Adoption of Agentic OS continues to be swift. We have already run over 250 agentic deals across our platform, many of which represent new and incremental advertisers to Pubmatic. Our agentic AI accelerator program enables customers and partners to launch live agentic campaigns within weeks and quickly scale usage. Remarkably, almost 100 brands, agencies, and streamers have applied to join, making it the fastest early stage adoption of any product we've launched. This strong uptake underscores two important and distinctive points. First is the magnitude of the secular growth opportunity as digital advertising adopts agentic AI. By 2028, I expect 25% of all digital advertising to be executed autonomously via agentic AI, and by 2030, I expect that to jump to 50%. As an early AI leader, this unlocks transformative growth for Pubmatic long before our peers. With our scale already building in Agentic AI, this leading advantage is widening, with each transaction enhancing our model's ability to drive improved performance, fueling long-term revenue growth and incremental margin expansion. And second, the opportunity is much bigger than simply a technology revolution. Agentic AI will upend and collapse the industry's value chain, bringing advertisers and publishers much closer together. This will create a step function change in advertising efficiency and effectiveness, which will significantly expand the open internet advertising market in aggregate with new advertisers and increased budgets. In short, AI is an incremental tailwind for Pubmatic, and we are uniquely positioned to take advantage of this opportunity with nearly 2,000 premium publisher integrations representing over 100,000 sites and apps, 250-plus data partners on Connect, our direct buying platform Activate, and our fully owned AI-enabled infrastructure. While the past 20 years were about real-time bidding, the next decade will be about AI-led intelligence that connects the entire customer journey. The depth of our publisher inventory, combined with our tech stack, gives Pomatic a clear competitive advantage in this transition. We own our own infrastructure, sit at the intersection of media and the consumer, and innovate rapidly without dependence on third parties. These strengths power our three-layer architecture of advertising intelligence. At the infrastructure layer, our NVIDIA partnership enables next-gen AI models to run in our private cloud, with hardware and software solutions optimized for digital advertising. Owning our infrastructure also means that as compute requirements grow, our efficiency and margins expand with scale. At the application layer, AI is embedded into core workflows and publisher solutions that unlock new revenue opportunities. Nearly 10% of publishers on our platform are now deriving revenue from our AI solutions and generating incremental revenue for Pubmatic. And at the transaction layer, Activate and Agentic OS are transforming how advertisers and publishers connect, delivering higher performance and efficiency. Together, these layers form a flywheel for growth. Each innovation drives usage and strengthens our long-term competitive mode. They also allow us to innovate around growing opportunities within open internet advertising. We recently partnered with Context, a monetization layer for generative AI content experiences. Our integration enables publishers to monetize conversational AI experiences programmatically while maintaining control over their content, data, and user experience. Our direct integrations and AI-first infrastructure position us well to support and scale as these and other emerging ad formats evolve. Even as agentic advertising accelerates, we remain sharply focused on the five strategic priorities we set mid last year. These priorities are fueling underlying growth across our platform and will underpin double digit revenue expansion in the second half of 2026. First, we continue to diversify our buyer mix, integrating with 50 new DSP partners last year. The mid-market advertisers represented by these DSPs are the fastest-growing segment of the market as demand for performance-oriented solutions accelerates. This growth is reflected by the strength of the open Internet, which offers professionally created content and a growing logged-in user base across CTV and mobile app. This logged-in scale is critical for measurement, conversion, and ROI, making the open Internet increasingly compelling for performance advertisers. Second, we grew our buyer-focused go-to-market team by nearly 20% year-over-year and strengthened that team with new leadership to support deeper market penetration and account expansion. These investments are translating into stronger direct relationships with brands and agencies, with Activate consistently delivering top-tier performance that drives repeat spend and broader adoption. For example, in an IPG Kineso-led campaign, Activate outperformed on every key metric, generating 72% more clicks, 11% more impressions purchased, and nearly 20% lower CPMs for a leading global oil company, upending their traditional approach to programmatic buying. Similarly, MIQ, a global programmatic partner, significantly boosted brand visibility. Using Activate, MIQ powered a CTV campaign that required transparent, show-level reporting, capabilities unavailable in its legacy-buying platform. These outcomes demonstrate how Activate collapses the value chain in the open Internet, improving efficiency and ROI. What's more, with the Gentic OS, Activate will increasingly serve as a gateway to AI-enabled advertising for a broad range of advertisers. Third, CTV remains one of our most exciting growth channels. We recently added a new marquee global streamer to our platform and now partner with 28 of the top 30 global streamers, including Roku, Samsung TV+, DirecTV, Fox Sports, 2V, Vizio, and more. This leadership continues to attract top global brands to our platform. Sony Network Communications recently chose Pumatic to seamlessly reach both linear and CTV audiences programmatically via our platform. The campaign highlights how Pomatic helps brands unlock new incremental customers while driving stronger monetization for CTV publishers. Longer term, this campaign illustrates how Pomatic's programmatic solutions can drive execution across linear formats. Similarly, our mobile app business continued to scale with major mediation solutions. Most recently, we announced that Pubmatic's OpenRap SDK is now integrated with one of the largest global mobile ad networks, Google AdMob and Google Ad Manager for mobile app. This integration gives buyers a direct connection to high-quality, brand-safe inventory. As we enter 2026, mobile remains a strong, secular growth area for us with more partnership announcements in the near future. Fourth, emerging revenues will continue to be a significant growth driver in 2026 as adoption increases across several new products, in particular new AI-powered solutions. Strategically, these solutions strengthen our revenue model in two ways. They increase platform usage as automation drives more transactions and higher performance, and they introduce incremental revenue streams. For example, earlier this month, we announced AI Insights, which gives publishers actionable sales intelligence so they can maximize yield. Using these insights, leading CTV and online video publishers are unlocking 20% plus higher CPMs. Realtor.com Senior Vice President of Digital Media and Advertising, Yi-Fei Nguyen, explained that Pubmatics AI insights deliver the timely, market-level visibility we need to spot performance opportunities, understand shifts in demand, and make confident, real-time optimizations as conditions change. And finally, just as we are using AI to drive increased customer performance, we're also using AI to drive our own operational excellence. AI has become a core productivity engine across Pubmatic, embedding into processes and work streams across the business. In engineering, over 40% of new code in the second half of 2025 was written by AI, boosting productivity and accelerating time to market. These efficiencies funded new investments in sales and marketing while slightly reducing overall headcount. We'll continue to drive increased productivity in 2026 through AI adoption, which in turn will fund investments for profitable growth. I'm proud of the progress we've made in the discipline with which we built a more durable, scalable growth model. As we enter 2026, we remain focused on our key strategic priorities, activated adoption, DSP diversification, and accelerating growth in CTV, mobile, and emerging revenue streams. We expect these initiatives to drive double-digit year-over-year revenue growth in the second half of the year. Looking ahead, Agentic AI is an incremental tailwind and a defining advantage for Pomatic. It enhances advertiser performance, expands our addressable market, and increases the flow of budgets to the open internet. With adoption accelerating faster than anticipated, Pomatic is leading the next wave of innovation, helping our customers drive better outcomes through more automated, intelligent, and transparent advertising. We have the strategy, technology, and team in place to capture the opportunities ahead and to create lasting value for our shareholders. I will now turn the call over to Steve.
Thank you, Rajiv, and welcome, everyone. Q4 was a pivotal turning point for us as we significantly exceeded expectations on both revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Adjusting for political revenues and revenues derived from the legacy DSP referenced mid-last year, the remainder of our business, which represented 83% of revenue in Q4, grew 18% year-over-year. This strong double-digit growth was driven from secular growth areas, CTV, mobile app, and emerging revenues, as well as solid performance in display. These results materially expanded our Q4 adjusted EBITDA margin to 35%, underscoring the efficiency and operating leverage of our business as incremental revenue dropped to profit. Our strong Q4 capped a year in which we established ourselves as an AI leader among our peers, successfully realigned our business to address dynamic changes in our industry, and positioned the company for sustained, profitable growth. Here are some of the notable achievements we delivered in 2025. We generated revenue and increased usage on our platform from newly launched AI solutions. These existing products, along with new products being launched in the coming months, provided an incremental tailwind for us in 2026. We ended the year with nearly 50% of our revenues coming from high engagement, first-party, data-rich environments of CTV, mobile app, and emerging revenues. We added 50 new DSP partnerships and reshaped the mix of our largest DSPs towards fast-growing commerce and high-value ad verticals like Pharma. We increased productivity through the effective use of AI across every business function, enabling us to increase investment in revenue growth initiatives while reducing overall headcount. We accelerated our free cash flow by 32% compared to 2024. And we've made significant progress executing on our multi-year innovation roadmap, investing in key growth areas with operational discipline, supported by a strong financial profile. I'm incredibly proud of what the team has accomplished and the momentum we're carrying into 2026. Our multi-year journey transforming our business focused on high value, high engagement, and data-driven revenue streams is on track. Beginning with CTV, our 2025 results represented the fourth year in a row of significant organic revenue growth. Over this period, CTV's compound annual growth rate has been over 50%. We now monetize inventory from 28 of the top 30 global streamers and over 450 CTV publishers. It is a global business with approximately 60% of our customers in the Americas and 40% in the rest of the world. In Q4, we saw robust, incremental monetized impression growth from both newly signed partnerships and existing publishers. The four-year compound annual growth rate for our mobile app business has been 15%, and in Q4, delivered over 25% year-over-year revenue growth. This performance reflects the ramp-up of strategic partnerships, ongoing product innovation, and continued expansion of our global app publisher base. Emerging revenue streams in the fourth quarter grew over 75% year-over-year and represented roughly 12% of total revenues, driven by increased adoption across several new products. Just three years ago, emerging revenues represented less than 1% of revenues, demonstrating our ability to scale innovation and diversify our revenue base into high-value profitable areas. We've achieved double-digit percentage growth across our curation, data, commerce, and activate offerings. Notably, our new AI-powered solutions are already starting to scale. In just a few months, nearly 10% of publishers on our platform are now deriving revenue from our AI solutions and generating incremental revenue for Palmatic. We anticipate our AI solutions will provide an incremental and growing tailwind for us in 2026 and beyond. Display revenues in the fourth quarter return to year-over-year growth in the mid-single-digit percentages. Excluding the legacy DSP referenced earlier, display revenues grew over 20% in the fourth quarter, significantly outpacing the market rate of growth. Turning to ad spend, we benefit from a diversified portfolio of ad verticals. In Q4, we saw a strong year-over-year double-digit percentage growth in the shopping, health and fitness, and technology and computing verticals. We saw some softness in the business and food and drink verticals, which declined year-over-year in the single-digit percentages. Overall, our top 10 ad verticals in aggregate grew nearly 10%. As Rajeev shared, we continue to expand our business beyond the largest legacy DSPs, focusing on both product innovation and targeted sales execution. These efforts gained momentum in Q4 with ad spend from our mid-market DSP partners of 30% year-over-year, accelerating from 25% growth in Q3. With the addition of 50 new DSP partners to our platform, we are well-positioned to further diversify our buyer mix. Regionally, our APAC and EMEA businesses grew rapidly at over 25% and 15% respectively. offsetting a minus 18% decline in the Americas, which was primarily due to spend declines from political advertising and the large DSP buyer. Throughout 2025, disciplined cost management and AI-enabled automation supported both growth and profitability. We significantly expanded infrastructure capacity, processing 337 trillion impressions of 28% over 2024, while keeping cost of revenues relatively flat. On a trailing 12-month basis, unit costs declined 20% year-over-year, demonstrating the efficiency and scalability of our own infrastructure and the leveraged model that we built. We also harness AI and automation across our back office functions to derive measurable and sustainable efficiency gains. For example, in legal, the application of AI-enabled contracting tools has reduced average contract cycle times by roughly 15% while also supporting a higher overall contract volume. In accounting, we achieved over 35% efficiency gains in our procure-to-pay process, enhancing speed and control in our financial operations. In FP&A, we've significantly reduced manual data aggregation efforts by nearly one-third while maintaining analytical rigor by AI-assisted data processing and reporting. Collectively, these initiatives showcase how AI-driven automation is unlocking real productivity, cost efficiency, and operational leverage across Plomatic. Illustrating this point, in the fourth quarter, total operating expenses were flat year-over-year. At the same time, we increased investments in revenue-driven initiatives, most notably our buyer-focused sales team, which increased by nearly 20% year-over-year. Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $27.8 million, or 35% margin, which included a foreign exchange impact of approximately half a million dollars due to the weakening U.S. dollar over the quarter. Q4 gap net income was $6.7 million, or 14 cents per diluted share. Moving to cash and our capital allocation, our balance sheet remains a core strategic advantage. We generated $81 million in net operating cash flows in 2025, up 10% over 2024. We delivered free cash flow of $46 million, a 32% increase over last year. In addition to our disciplined approach in managing our working capital, cash flow benefited from lower cash taxes following the new federal tax legislation. To underscore our long-term ability to generate cash, since the beginning of 2021 through Q4, we have generated over $410 million in net cash from operations and more than $220 million in free cash flow. We ended the quarter with $145.5 million in cash and zero debt. Our capital allocation strategy remains disciplined and balanced, focused on long-term shareholder value creation. We continue to invest in innovation and infrastructure to drive incremental organic growth while maintaining the flexibility to pursue strategic M&A opportunities. We've also made a long-term commitment to return capital to shareholders via our share repurchase program. Since the inception of our repurchase program in February 2023 through the end of Q4, we have bought back 12.4 million Class A common shares for $181.1 million we have $93.9 million remaining in our repurchase program authorized through the end of 2026. Moving on to our outlook. In terms of the latest trends, our January revenues came in line with our expectations and ad spending was healthy. Factoring in the changes from the legacy DSP we called out mid-2025, we expect Q1 revenue to be in the range of $58 to $60 million. Spend from this DSP continues to be stable and aligned with normal seasonal patterns. We expect to lap this impact by the end of Q2. Excluding this DSP, the midpoint of our outlook implies year-over-year growth in the high single-digit percentages. Q1 adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of minus one-half to positive $1 million, which includes a negative foreign exchange impact due to the continued weakness of the U.S. dollar. As a reminder, we have a fixed cost model and margin scale as we gain leverage over the course of the year. Looking beyond Q1, we expect to return to double-digit revenue growth in the second half of this year, with a corresponding expansion of our margins from revenue growth, supported by disciplined investment and increased efficiencies from AI. Full-year cost of revenue is expected to marginally increase in the low single digits, primarily due to industry-wide utility cost pass-throughs from data center providers beginning in Q1. We anticipate partially offsetting these costs by continued efficiency efforts already underway. Four-year operating expenses are expected to grow in the mid-single-digit percentages and include the cost to pursue our litigation against Google. Sequentially, quarterly operating expenses are anticipated to marginally increase in the low single-digit percentages. We will continue to invest in high-return AI revenue initiatives while pursuing cost savings unlocked by AI productivity efforts across all functional areas. Full-year CapEx is projected to be approximately 15 to 19 million. It reflects a shift away from investments for increased added pressure capacity and instead towards expanding support for AI workloads where we're seeing strong performance gains and revenue from our AI solutions. In closing, Q4 represented an important structural inflection point for Pomatic. As our secular growth engines in CTV, mobile app, and emerging revenue scale, our model generates operating leverage. In Q4, we delivered 35% adjusted EBIT margins and strong free cash flow, reinforcing the durability of our own infrastructure and fixed cost base. As we move through 2026, three dynamics give us confidence. First, revenue growth is broadening. We are increasingly diversified across DSPs, verticals, geographies, and high engagement environments, which reduces concentration and strengthens the resilience of our model. Second, AI is not just a product catalyst. It is a financial lever. We are simultaneously driving incremental revenue from AI-powered solutions while using AI to expand margins, improve productivity, and fund growth investments. Few companies in our space are capturing both sides of that equation. Third, our balance sheet remains a strategic advantage. With approximately $146 million in cash and no debt, strong operating cash generation, and nearly $94 million remaining under repurchase authorization, We have the flexibility to invest, return capital, and pursue strategic opportunities, all while maintaining financial discipline. Importantly, we expect to return to double-digit revenue growth in the second half of this year, with corresponding margin expansion driven by revenue scale and AI-enabled efficiencies. We entered 2026 with a stronger revenue mix, a more efficient cost structure, and a scalable AI-enabled platform. That combination positions us to expand margins, grow cash flow, and create durable long-term shareholder value. With that, I'll turn the call over to Stacey for questions.
As a reminder, you can ask a question by raising your hand located on the dashboard. If you're on your phone, please press star 9. Our first question comes from Shweta Kajaria at Wolf. Please go ahead, Shweta. Shweta? Let me make sure. Oh, there you go. Thanks, Stacey.
Thanks, Rebecca.
Hi, Rebecca. Hello. Could you please maybe speak to... how you work with Amazon, what role Amazon plays with your partnership and in the industry as it relates to, you know, their involvement in the ad tech chain. Maybe that's not very well understood as we think about the supply side of it all. Thank you.
Sure. Yeah, so we work with Amazon in multiple ways, and that partnership is growing and expanding as, of course, their ad business is growing. So, first of all, we're one of three SSPs in their certified supply exchange program, which was publicly announced, I think, over a year ago. And the goal of that program is to foster collaboration amongst our go-to-market teams for mutual growth, in addition to from a product and technology perspective. And that program has grown well. It exceeded the targets that we laid out in 2025, and we're excited about the growth opportunity for that in 2026. On the sell side, we monetize streaming inventory through our partnership with Amazon Publisher Services, or APS, as well as Fire TV devices from almost a dozen different streaming apps. So these are CTV streamers that have apps for Amazon's Fire TV devices. We've been monetizing this inventory for multiple quarters now, a couple of years, and we do that by delivering unique, pragmatic ad demand to our shared streaming publishers while also expanding the streaming inventory that's available to buyers on our platform. We also monetize omnichannel inventory, so non-streaming inventory, mobile web, display, et cetera, through the wrapper, Amazon's wrapper, Transparent Ad Marketplace. Now, this DSP, from a DSP perspective, they've been scaling, and they're a top five buyer on Pumatic. So we've collaborated with them on multiple different product releases, including traffic shaping, in order to drive greater efficiency. We've got a number of growth opportunities in the pipeline with them for 2026, and I anticipate sharing more about our relationship with them in the future.
Thanks, Rajiv.
Question comes from Matt Condon at Citizens. Please go ahead, Matt.
Thank you so much for taking my questions. Just one for me, but Rajiv, as you take a step back and you look at this new AI world that we live in, it seems like ad platforms really need to differentiate on either a data asset or access to unique inventory. As you think about Pubmatic, just what are the structural assets that Pubmatic has that really differentiates it from other platforms?
Yeah, thanks, Matt. So, I mean, first of all, I'll just say the interest and energy around agentic has been amazing to witness. I think we're seeing a wholesale revolution in how media is planned, transacted, and optimized. And while it's early, you know, we're well ahead of the curve on this. And just to kind of give a sense of where we see the opportunity, you know, I think the last 10 to 15 years of the industry have really been about real-time bidding, right? So, optimizing that individual impression in real time. But if we, you know, step back a little bit, we look at what's happening upstream and what's happening downstream, there's a lot of manual effort happening. Discovery of inventory, planning, you know, a media plan, what inventory, what data, which users to go after, you know, pricing. And then downstream of the actual RTV transaction, there's a lot of work to be done in measurement and optimization. So now with the introduction of generative AI, we're in a position to automate all of those pieces and create a lot of value for the ecosystem in the process, right? And I think this is just kind of super obvious where we can leverage AI and allow humans to do more value-added work, more creative work, and make advertising not only more effective, but also to make it a lot more efficient, which should grow the overall market opportunity as well as grow our addressable market. So I have a question about, you know, what's unique about how we're positioned. I think we are uniquely positioned to win in this arena for a few reasons. So first is that we have a significant advantage with respect to deep customer integrations. So you heard me talk about on the call, you know, several thousand publishers representing over 100,000 sites and apps. So we have code, you know, on those websites, in those apps, et cetera. That's a huge network effect where a buyer can effectively access the entire open Internet ecosystem on our platform. And that advantage only sits on the sell side because of the yield optimization that we provide to publishers. Second, with Activate, buyers can now buy directly in our SSP, which really simplifies the end-to-end workflow and agentic communication. And this is, I think, really critical because we are not in a position where we have to wait for standards to emerge so that sell-side tech and buy-side tech can communicate in a standardized protocol. Because we have Activate, which is direct buying in our SSP, we're free to innovate beyond any standards, and so we can move a lot more quickly. Third is that we've launched Agentic OS to provide model context protocol or MCP enabled access to all of the core use cases on our platform and in the ecosystem. And we think we're well ahead of where the market is with Agentic OS. And then fourth, we have purpose-built AI infrastructure. So we have own and operated infrastructure, which we've partnered with NVIDIA on, and that enables us to run next-gen AI models in a customized hardware and software stack. And then finally, we have not only the data from our publisher base, but also 250 data partners in our Connect data platform providing first, you know, very rich first party data and commerce data and the like. So, you know, when you put all that together, you know, that's why we're in the position we're in where we've gone from the first campaign in December to over 250 agenda campaigns being run in a very short period of time. I also want to just close by saying, you know, this is not something that can be vibe coded by, you know, three guys with an LLM subscription, right? Even if you could recreate the application software overnight. By-coded software is not going to be tuned for high volume of transactions, for high concurrency, for low latency, for efficient memory consumption, efficient storage. You need customized infrastructure for these advertising workloads, which has been built on 100 million plus of CapEx data. You need integrations with, you know, thousands of publishers and buyers around the world. You need commercial contracts in place, payment flows. So we think we're in a really strong position to lead this revolution, which is much more than just technology. It's really something that's going to upend the entire value chain of the ecosystem.
That's very helpful. Thank you, Rajiv.
Question comes from Barton Crockett. It was in black.
All right. Thanks for taking the question. I was curious, Rajiv, when you gave your outlook about 28 and 20, 30, I think 25, 50% volume being agentic. When you say volume agentic, do you envision this working like with Butler-Till where it would be entered through an LLM like Claude straight to you guys? And in that way, maybe streamlining the industry a bit, lowering fees, and perhaps losing a DSP in the process.
Yeah, so I think it can happen in a variety of different ways, Barton, and to be clear, we're quite early in this kind of opportunity and revolution here. So it could be through LLMs. It could be through buyer agents, so specialized agents that various tech companies are building or launching into the ecosystem. It could also be directly through our platform. It could be through an agent that a DSP builds. So I think all of those are opportunities. I do think that with Agentic OS and Activate bidding directly within our SSP, We are creating more value and adding more value across the ecosystem, and I expect us to participate in that with increased revenue from those transactions, even at the same time as we're reducing the cost of transact advertising. So I see a really strong dual benefit on both the top line and the bottom line.
Okay. But, you know, just to follow up, I mean, is it your vision – that AI over time streamlines and reduces fees in open Internet? You know, is that basically a kind of base case of what happens, and you're just trying to position to be the player within that?
Yeah, that is right. So I do think, as I mentioned earlier, this is going to be not just technology, but a value chain disruptor. And by that, what I mean is the supply side and the buy side, I believe, are going to come much closer together. And Activate is a great example of that, where a buyer can buy directly in our SSP. Of course, they can continue to choose to work with any of 150-ish DSPs that are integrated into our platform. So I do think that we can create efficiency in the ecosystem. Part of that is operational overhead, you know, of people and systems, and part of that can absolutely be fee efficiency, and it's probably natural to expect that as any industry scales up, including digital advertising, there should be, you know, more and more fee efficiency built over time. Okay, great. Thank you.
Next question comes from Rob Fulbreth at Evercore.
Hey, guys, can you hear me? Yes. Hey, Rob. Awesome. Thanks for the opportunity to ask a question. Rajiv, just want to ask you, so the 5X cost improvement and campaign execution that you talked about resulting increase in working media dollars, so is that by elimination of supply chain hops, specifically DSP, or just anything more you can tell us about that? And then just, you know, taking another step back, I think, you know, there's, you know, sort of dual or maybe competing visions, or maybe there's multiple visions of a genetic, you know, one where it sort of sits on top of existing programmatic infrastructure, one where it potentially This places it where you could have more sort of federated model of, you know, there could be a thousand walled gardens, effectively, if you will. So just wondering, you know, why maybe one or the other might win out. Do you have ultimately a preference? I suppose you guys could be the one powering the thousand walled gardens. So just any thoughts on how this ultimately plays out? Is it going to make the programmatic world more centralized or more federated over time?
Sure, yeah. So just on the first part of that question, so the 5X cost efficiency, it's looking at the entire cost to execute a campaign, right? And so pre-agentic, there's a lot more manual activity involved, as I talked about earlier in terms of campaign setup, and then in-flight, you know, optimization, post-campaign measurement. Then there's, of course, multiple technology partners in the mix with fees kind of pre-using the agentic approach with us. And then post, we look at, okay, how much manual activity came out of that process, how many, you know, third parties were eliminated, and look at that efficiency as a percentage of the total media campaign. And that's where we get the 5x cost efficiency. So these are pretty substantial, and what it leads to is that performance in the open Internet when transacted agentically can be much stronger than what it is today, and I think that can be a big driver of total addressable market and of the market that we're going after. On the second part of your question, you know, yeah, I would say, like, maybe a month or two ago, I heard a lot of conversation about, you know, is ad CP or agentic going to replace programmatic or, you know, real-time bidding? I definitely do not see that. I see what's happening with agentic capabilities and, you know, what we're building with customers today. to be complementary, meaning a lot of this work is being done on top of programmatic pipes, where ultimately transactions do need to be bidded in real time. And AI is just not at a place where it can deliver at the low latency and high throughput that is needed. And so I very much see this as bringing a lot more volume into our platform.
Great. Steve, just to ask you a quick follow-up, just versus the forecast, I wanted to maybe ask if you could take us through a top couple of drivers outside in the quarter from your perspective, any key verticals, demand platforms, supply platforms that they have outperformed.
Sure. Obviously, we're very pleased with our Q4 outcome. We exceeded our expectations by a significant amount, and The good news is that it was all driven by areas that we've been investing in and innovating, you know, the CIP, secular growth areas. So we saw strong growth in emerging revenues, which grew over 75%. In the fourth quarter, year over year, we saw mobile app accelerate to 25% growth. And we saw CTV continue to perform double-digit rates. And so from our perspective, you know, we had all the key areas that we've been investing, innovated around, deliver, you know, above expectations. At the same time, you know, we also saw stability in the DSP change that we called out mid last year. So that was stable and, you know, was a net neutral to positive. And then, you know, importantly, you know, I think when you step back and think about what we've done as a business, we've been transforming our business over the last couple of years. And so the fourth quarter really distilled down all those key trends and sort of laid down the foundation. You know, we, as Rajiv called out, we've diversified our DSPs in the mid-market. And so I feel really good about the outcome in terms of exceeding expectations and the setup for 2026. Now, with respect to particular ad verticals, you know, I called out there were a couple, you know, shopping, for example, was robust in the fourth quarter, and there was overall, you know, pretty healthy ad spend. So I think it speaks to stability in the ad ecosystem, and that's our expectations in 26, that that's going to continue.
Great. Thanks so much.
The next question comes from Matt Swanson at RBC. Please go ahead, Matt.
Great. Thank you guys for taking my question. Going back to what you were just talking about, Steve, but the question might be a little more for Rajiv, but just that DSP diversification. I mean, first of all, congratulations, because I had no idea there were that many DSPs in the world that you're now working with. But could you just talk a little bit more after these last two years, kind of how much of a renewed point of emphasis that is within your company to make sure that you control everything that you can on one or two large providers.
Yeah, sure. Let me kick that off, and then, Steve, I'll hand it over to you. So, you know, I think this is an exciting growth area for us. We've made tremendous headway in expanding our, you know, our DSP mix. And I think if we go back and consider the industry from a couple of years ago through the preceding five to seven years, it was very much characterized by DSP consolidation. You know, a couple of DSPs, you know, emerged as winners and consolidators. But now what we've seen is something very different, where in the last couple of years, I think as the industry has continued to fragment, We've seen, you know, depth in a lot of new verticals, retail media, you know, pharma, for instance. We've seen new formats like CTV streaming, et cetera, come into the mix. There are many more specialist DSPs that are out there. And I think it probably also reflects a much bigger broadening of of the number of advertisers, you know, many in the mid-market, whether it's upper, you know, middle, lower, that have very different and diverse needs than the head of the market, you know, the top 250 or top 500 advertisers have had. And so that's creating a lot of opportunity and, you know, we have a really robust roadmap going after this group of DSPs because we see, A, there's a lot of growth potential, and then, B, you know, strategically it's very good for us from a diversification perspective. Let me turn it over to Steve as well.
Sure. You know, Matt, I think you hit the nail on the head when you commented, you know, focusing on what we can control. And so Rajiv called out, you know, some of the key drivers of that, you know, identifying where the opportunities are, We had tremendous results in 25, adding 50 more DSPs. And that's a function of focus and, you know, making sure that we go after the right DSPs and then innovating around them. And what allowed us to do that is our continued focus on efficiency, and we've actually put more resources into the sales area, you know, focused on advertisers, you know, DSP buyers to really take advantage of the trends that Rajiv just described. So we continue to control what we can control. We're investing in areas where we see upside. And then you are starting to see the outcome of that, you know, with, you know, improved diversification. You know, I called out the stat that, you know, the mid-market DSPs that we've been spending more time with accelerated growth in the fourth quarter to over 30% year over year. So, From our perspective, this is a multi-quarter, you know, longer-term process, but we are, you know, we believe we're doing exactly the right things to diversify our overall buying base.
Yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, we've gone over a lot of company-specific positives for both the quarter and kind of playing out through 2026. And you've talked about the DSP headwind diminishing somewhat and starting to improve. Could you just talk a little bit more about what goes into that Q1 guidance? Obviously, a beat and raise quarter, but still from a year-over-year perspective down a bit. So just is there still DSP headwinds, macro, just kind of how you're thinking through that, Steve?
Sure. No, absolutely. The big headwind that we're working through is what we called out mid-last year is the large legacy DSP. And, you know, one of the stats that I shared was if you, you know, for the fourth quarter, if you adjust for that DSP as well as political, which was a big factor in the fourth quarter of 24, we grow 18%, which is well above market growth rates. And so you can see the impact that that DSP headwind had on us. Now, with respect to the guidance, making that same adjustment, obviously political is not a factor, so just adjusting for the DSP, you know, our expectation is the midpoint of our guidance is in the high single digits. So from our perspective, clearly on track in terms of getting back to growth. And by, you know, midyear, we will have lapped that impact. And so we expect revenue acceleration in the second half of the year because revenue We've been investing and seeing results, you know, mobile app, CTV, emerging revenues. So all told, you know, what you're really seeing is that headwind that's still in the reported numbers that we're going to roll through in the second half of the year. Other factors obviously built into it is the assumption that the macro will remain relatively stable. And what we saw in January was that was the case. You know, we saw six out of ten ad verticals grew, you know, double digits. So all told, we see a stable background. We see the results of our investment. And we see, you know, working through some of the structural headwinds that we feel are now stable and will soon be behind us. Thank you.
Next question comes from James Heaney at Jefferies.
Yeah, great. Thanks, guys, for taking the question. Rajiv, when you say that your Q4 results represented an inflection point in your business, could you just elaborate on what you think the biggest unlock was this particular quarter? Is it a combination of things, or is there one thing you call out?
Sure. Yeah, I'd say it's a combination of a number of things. Right. And to kind of just highlight it, you know, Steve called out the metric just now in the last Q&A, which is excluding political and that legacy DSP. Eighty three percent of our business grew 18 percent year over year in Q4. You know, so clearly, you know, very positive signal. So, you know, things that I think are working well, CTV, you know, grew in the double digits, excluding political. We partner now with 28 of the top 30 global streamers. So, you know, we added one more. We'll share more on that one a little bit later. Mobile app grew 25% year over year. The emerging revenue streams, you know, that's now 10% of revenue growing very quickly. The DSP diversification that we talked about earlier. And then I think, you know, the big one that certainly I am personally very focused on is, you know, the emergence of agentic as a new incremental tailwind in our business. And we just started to see a bit of that in Q4 as we launched those initial campaigns in December. But just the fact that we're now at 250 and growing campaigns that have run, obviously we feel very excited and bullish on that opportunity.
And if I would just add a couple of additional comments, you know, we think about, obviously, we have been working through, you know, structural changes in the industry. And I think what really distilled for us is that the confluence of our hard work in terms of innovation, investing, you know, gaining efficiencies and really setting ourselves up for, you know, a strong, healthy 2026 with accelerating revenue in the second half of the year. And so, you know, from our perspective, you know, to rephrase again, you know, we're controlling what we can control and we're seeing the fruit of our labors. And so we're feeling very confident about the trajectory of the business because we are seeding our business, you know, around the areas that will have long-term growth opportunity for us. Great. Thank you.
The next question comes from Jason Hochstein at Oppenheimer.
Hi, this is Steve Roman on for Jason. So just a quick question on Agenda OS. The over 250 deals metric is encouraging, but just can you help us understand whether these deals are already driving meaningful revenue or is that more of a this year and next year story? And then also, how do the economics work? Like, are you charging higher CPMs or an expanded take rate or a thank you?
Sure. Steve, do you want to take that? Sure. You know, from our perspective, you know, it's first we're out of the gate. And from our perspective, we are absolutely the leader among our peers in terms of this respect, you know, having an entity system that's working, you know, Pubmatics, HHOS. And so as we've done with many other innovations in our company, we, you know, build out the foundation and then we scale it over a number of quarters and years. And so this will be similar in that regard. To give you some proof points, you know, it was about three years ago where our emerging revenues was less than 1% of our revenues. and we exited 25 at 12% of revenues. You know, that's activate, curation, commerce, et cetera. And so we expect, you know, our agentic efforts will, you know, build a base, and then it will accelerate over time. So for, you know, in the second half of the year, we would assume that that will be a similar profile, but it's going to take time. But the key point is that we are actually leading the pack, you know, and actually learning from the process, and we'll start to – you know, hit the revenue line. Now we're, you know, experimenting with a lot of different models in terms of CPM-based, et cetera. The powerful aspect of what we're doing is that we now have sort of a complete breath you know we obviously have the deep integrations that rajiv called out we have the buying capability so we have a lot of flexibility in terms of how the economics play out over the long run and you know any good company that's innovating is we're experimenting and testing and see what you know is most palatable and will be the unlock for our customers and partners
Yeah, maybe just two data points to add to that. So thank you, Steve. So when a buyer uses Pagentic OS as the Pagentic doorway into Pubmatic and they buy through Activate, then we do generate an incremental fee. So Activate, the direct buying interface into our SSP, we do generate an incremental fee on those transactions above and beyond the SSP fee. And then second, you know, I called out in the prepared remarks that 10% of publishers are now generating revenue from AI solutions. And that can be a Gentic OS as well as a variety of different publisher solutions that we have. So that number, you know, it's great that it's in double digits, but that number should be 100% eventually. So I think it just points to the fact that we're still, you know, early and there's a lot of runway ahead of us.
Great. Thank you.
that comments with you, Riley. Zachary there?
Just unmuted now. Hey, Rajiv. Hi, Steve. Thanks for the opportunity to take the questions. I just wanted to start off with the impacts that we've seen to search traffic with the emergence of some of these large LLM models. Just curious if you've seen a meaningful shift in terms of channels that advertisers are now prioritizing versus maybe what you saw six or 12 months ago?
So we have not seen a meaningful shift. I mean, obviously, OpenAI is, you know, out with the a new advertising um you know solution uh and i think it's pretty early i don't know if you call it an alpha beta or something like that um and so i don't think that's at scale and i think that's primarily competing with search uh budgets you know which uh you know do not flow on our platform to begin with um so we aren't seeing that from a kind of channel perspective i'd also say that our you know business is uh quite limited in terms of exposure uh from a traffic perspective You know, we size it at a single-digit percentage of revenue, you know, if search traffic were to go away, because about 60% of the impressions that we process are now for CTV and mobile app, and those are, you know, unaffected by the kind of the changes in search. And then industry data indicates that for the remainder of our business, you know, about 15% of traffic is referral traffic versus direct navigation traffic. So when you play that math out, you get into the single-digit percentages. I mean, we continue to grow the impression volume on our platform. There's no shortage of both browser web monetization, web impressions, as well as mobile app as we continue to grow with the Google announcement. And then, of course, CTV as we add more and more streamers to our platform.
And, you know, one thing I'd add, Zach, just to underscore the point and really speak to the strength of Pubmatic, you know, in the fourth quarter, we actually had a very robust display growth. We returned the growth on a year-over-year basis in the mid-single-digit percentages. And if you adjust for the large legacy DSP, our display business actually grew 20% year-over-year in the fourth quarter. So hard to see sort of, you know, any bleed over from AI pressures in that regard. But really what it speaks to is that when you think about all the things that we've been doing, executing against our strategic priorities, all of those efforts are starting to benefit across all formats and channels. In effect, it's lifting all boats. And really display with that stat highlights, you know, that the benefit of those efforts that is really, you know, broad-based across our platform. And, of course, there's, you know, all the other structural aspects, you know, controlling what we can control. You know, adding more DSPs helps. You know, Rajiv called out the strong activate progression. You know, the mobile app progression. All that feeds into volume growth, not just in CTV, but also, you know, our legacy formats like display.
Understood. And Rajiv, I'm curious if you can give any sort of update around the Google AdTech remedies trial. Still awaiting a final decision on that front, but maybe just level setting kind of base case outcome that you view is most likely. And I'm assuming that none of that potential tailwind is included in the forward outlook.
Yeah, that's right. So that's not included because obviously the timing and the nature of the remedies is uncertain. So maybe there's two things to comment on. One is the Google DOJ case, and then the other is our own lawsuit against Google for damages. So on the former... You know, we like you are waiting for the court's verdict in terms of remedies. I think many people are expecting it sometime this quarter and many folks are expecting it to be more so behavioral remedies. rather than structural remedies, where the primary structural remedy is Google divestiture of addicts. So we don't know anything special, so we're kind of waiting and seeing. I think, as you know, we estimate Google is a 60% market share player, and each 1% of market share would add 50 to 75 million in very high margin revenue, roughly 80%, 90% incremental margin revenue to our platform. So we think it's a tremendous opportunity, but like you, we are waiting for that verdict, that remedies to be handed down. And then the second piece is our own litigation against Google, and that's going to be a bit of a longer process. This is for damages. And there was, I think, a very positive decision where – The judge in New York, which is where this case has been sent to, determined that the factual findings made by Judge Brinkema in the DOJ litigation should be applied without relitigating the facts. And so what that means is that, you know, we don't need to prove that there was antitrust or anti-competitive behavior on the part of Google. We only need to, you know, demonstrate what the magnitude of damages is.
Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions. Thanks, Zach.
Question comes from Al Niebuhr at Lake Street. Please go ahead, Al.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So I was just wondering if you could quantify how much of the Q4 CTV growth is tied to live sports versus the always-on budgets. Do you guys see sports becoming a higher mix of CTV revenue, or could you comment on that?
Sure. I mean, from our perspective, you know, live sports is obviously a key long-term driver for our CTV business as for the industry overall. So we've been making great progress expanding inventory and, you know, not just live sports, but, you know, agency marketplaces across the globe. And they're all going to be, you know, strong secular growth areas. And I think the way to think about the opportunity is really to dovetail with earlier comments that, you know, as we scale as a business, you know, bring in more publishers. You know, Rajiv shared, you know, we – are now at work with 20 of the top 30 global streamers. We have over 450 global CTV publishers, and we're growing that all the time. So we have inventory that buyers value, and You know, in the process of making us easier to use, you know, through our AI capabilities, we anticipate that, you know, CTV will certainly benefit from it. And it's benefiting because we have, you know, inventory at scale, and we expect that to continue to be a long-term growth driver for us.
Yeah, just to give you a couple of examples, last year we monetized Cricket World Cup, U.S. Open for Tennis, MLB, NFL, NHL, so kind of the list goes on and on of live sports. So it absolutely is a key growth driver of our overall CTV business, and we're continuing to get closer to both the streamers and the buyers in order to work through many of the technical challenges.
Thanks, guys.
We are out of time, so I'm going to turn the call back over to Rajiv for closing remarks.
Thank you, Stacey. We enter 2026 with a stronger revenue mix and more efficient cost structure and expect to return to double-digit revenue growth in the second half of this year with corresponding margin expansion. Our early leadership in agentic AI is both an incremental tailwind and a structural advantage for Podmatic. And given our scale and proprietary data, it drives greater advertiser outcomes, unlocks new addressable ad demand, and increases budgets to the open Internet. We look forward to seeing many of you at upcoming conferences, including the Citizens Tech Conference on Monday, March 2nd, and the KeyBank Emerging Tech Summit on Tuesday, March 3rd, both in San Francisco. I will also be speaking at the NVIDIA GPU Technology Conference, or GTC, their Global AI Conference on March 19th. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today, and have a great afternoon.