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Operator
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Quantum's financial results for the second quarter fiscal 2022. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Cabrera from Quantum. Please go ahead.
Brian Cabrera
Good afternoon, and thank you for joining today's conference call to discuss Quantum's second quarter fiscal 2022 financial results. I'm Brian Cabrera, Quantum's Chief Legal and Compliance Officer. Joining me today are Jamie Lerner, Chairman and CEO, and Mike Johnson, CFO. This afternoon, we issued a press release, which you can access a copy of on Quantum's website at www.quantum.com under the Investor Relations section. There is also a slide presentation that we will be using in conjunction with today's call that may be accessed through the webcast link on the IR website and is also posted as a PDF in the investor relations section. As a reminder, comments made during today's conference call may include forward-looking statements. All statements other than statements of historical fact could be deemed as forward-looking. Quantum advises caution and reliance on forward-looking statements. These statements include, without limitation, any projections of revenue, margins, expenses, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, cash flows, or other financial items. Also, any statements concerning the expected development performance and market share or competitive performance relating to products or services. All forward-looking statements are based on information available to Quantum on the date hereof. These statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause Quantum's actual results to differ materially from those implied by the forward-looking statement, including unexpected changes in the company's business. More detailed information about these risk factors and additional risk factors are set forth in Quantum's periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These risk factors include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties listed in the section entitled Risk Factors in Quantum's quarterly report on Form 10-Q and annual report on Form 10-K as filed with the FCC. Quantum expressly disclaims any obligation to update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information future events, or otherwise, except as required by football law. Additionally, the company's press release and management statements during this conference call will include discussions of certain measures and financial information in GAAP and non-GAAP. Included in the company's press release are definitions and reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP items, which provide additional details. For those of you unable to listen to the entire call at this time, A recording will be available for at least 90 days in the investor relations section of Quantum's website. Now I would like to turn the call over to the Chairman and CEO, Jamie Lerner. Jamie?
Brian Cabrera
Thank you, Brian, and thank you all for joining us on today's call. Earlier today, we announced strong results for our second fiscal quarter with revenues that exceeded the high end of our guidance. Customer demand remained robust during the quarter, demonstrated by the material increase in our backlog, which grew sequentially to $50 million from $30 million last quarter. Increased traction with our hyperscale customers continued as we delivered a third consecutive quarter of sequential order growth. We also demonstrated progress in our software businesses and saw continued momentum in our subscription and services backlogs. The ongoing industry supply constraints improved during the quarter, but still restricted our ability to meet all end customer demand. We anticipate supply chain will see further improvement in our third fiscal quarter, which should allow the company to see a sequential reduction in current backlog levels. In the second quarter, we saw another quarter of revenue acceleration within our software and subscription customers, which grew 30%, albeit from a small base, but equally impressive was our bookings, which grew more than 70% sequentially. Our Cat TV product line delivered the second consecutive quarter of increased bookings with traction across sports, entertainment, and enterprise markets, demonstrating our ability to cross-sell quantum solutions to customers with multiple needs and applications. On the product and technology front, we completed the acquisition of Pivot3's video surveillance business and recently announced the acquisition of mCloudN, a hyper-converged startup which will help further establish Quantum as a leading player in the surveillance market. Also during the quarter, we announced major innovations for long-term data archiving and cyber protection. New as-a-service offerings include and a partnership with IBM on the next generation of LTO technology. All of these actions are strategic components to building a complete portfolio of solutions to meet customers' unstructured storage and archiving requirements across multiple end markets. We are pleased that during the quarter, we were recognized by Gartner as a visionary in the 2021 Magic Quadrant for distributed file and object storage, and recognized as the number one brand for secondary storage based on end-user survey results published by Coldago Research. We view the recognitions from third-party research firms as validation of our long-term strategy, with a focus on transitioning towards a higher mix of software and subscription services. One of the key aspects of our long-term transformation is transitioning from selling mostly hardware appliances, as our product mix suggests today, towards selling primarily software and services in a recurring revenue model. Our portfolio of software-based offerings has come a long way in the last two to three years, and we have built a broad portfolio of solutions which targets storing, managing, protecting, and enriching data. In both internal development and strategic acquisitions, our portfolio now includes software which covers numerous aspects of the capture and storage of data, such as indexing, cataloging, and tagging data, high-speed file and block software for ingesting and processing video and images files, object storage software, hyper-converged software for mission-critical surveillance workloads, deduplication software for data protection, and cloud-based AIOps software to monitor all of these operations around the world. Over the last year, we transitioned three of our product lines to software or subscription licensing. In the past, Quantum typically sold customers hardware appliances combined with software. Today, we're now transitioning away from providing appliances towards a subscription-based model in which Quantum software is the key aspect of the overall solution sale. We have roughly 200 customers utilizing software and subscription services, and we anticipate future levels of adoption will continue to accelerate. In the coming quarters, we will be transitioning more products to subscription licensing, including CatDV, DXI deduplication software, and mCloudN hyperconverged software. Our long-term strategic transition towards higher margin software and services is seeing strong initial uptake, and we look forward to sharing additional metrics on this business during our upcoming Virtual Analyst Day on November 9th. We continue to gain both market share and customer traction within hyperscale archive infrastructure. We are now in production with multiple hyperscale and webscale companies and have secured additional design wins and use cases at two major hyperscalers within the last quarter, including a $5 million webscale company win. demonstrating the value Quantum offers in supporting the massive archive needs of these global data BMS. As noted, our backlog has reached a new record level at the end of the second fiscal quarter. And while not all backlog represents potential revenues in the upcoming quarter, our end demand remains robust across hyperscaler customers. One positive that has emerged during the recent industry supply constraints is that we are seeing significantly higher levels of visibility into future revenue contribution from this vertical compared to just a year ago. We have made a few significant announcements in October that speak to our leadership in the hyperscale space and our strategy to offer large data archive solutions to web-scale companies and enterprises. We recently announced active-scale cold storage, which is a new type of storage for active-scale-based systems, which combines quantum tape hardware with patent-pending erasure coding software. In keeping with our long-term transition strategy, we can offer customers the solution as a service. Thus, enterprises will be able to build a large private cloud quickly and effectively in any data center they may choose with a fully managed quantum all-inclusive subscription pricing model. The new active-scale cold storage solution delivers up to 80% savings relative to archiving data on disk and provides much better durability than any other tape-based archiving solution, while practically eliminating the risk of data loss. Also in October, we announced a partnership with IBM on the next generation of LTO technology. Under the terms of the agreement, Quantum will collaborate with IBM in development of LTO 10 tape drives and media to help accelerate the time to market, capacity, and performance of the next generation LTO drives. Earlier this week, we announced our ransomware solution, which provides customers an industry first implementation, which creates a physical block between tape drives and the robotic arm of the typical tape-based system. While simplistic in its design, this additional step, which requires an individual to remove a mechanism prior to drive removal, ensures data storage on tape can provide enhanced protection relative to networking cybersecurity offerings, as drives remain completely offline, secure, and provide the ultimate level of data security for cyber resilient archives. For customers using quantum-based tape drives for archival storage, cyber criminals would have to physically enter the data center to gain access to any data. In total, we believe quantum has established both the market and architectural leadership position when it comes to long-term data archiving and hyperscale customers and now broadening into the enterprise. A key element of our strategy is to expand our addressable market into the largest data storage market, video surveillance. Today, surveillance cameras are the number one generator of data on the planet, and the total number of cameras as well as the resolution required of the cameras, is continually increasing. Overall required retention times of video surveillance data is increasing as well, as organizations are using surveillance data for more than just loss prevention. Combined, all these trends lead to a need for more storage capacity, more infrastructure, more software, and more video analytics. Over the past few months, we made two acquisitions to jumpstart our presence in this market. We acquired the video surveillance business from Pivot3, which brought over 500 customers, including major airports, large hotels, major safe city deployments, and major customers in the energy and utility sector and critical infrastructure. This acquisition also brought an established sales channel along with an expertise in the video surveillance market and key engineering and support personnel for supporting these customers. We also acquired a small hyper-converged software startup based in Bangalore called nCloudN. The company is a startup which has developed hyper-converged software that is both hardware and hypervisor agnostic, so it is much easier to deploy as standalone software running on any white box hardware, and is available today on a subscription model. In summary, we delivered solid financial results, making tremendous progress toward our transformation agenda, and remain poised for a strong second half based on customer order strength, our current backlog, and anticipation that the industry supply constraints will see further improvement during the third quarter. We have clear momentum entering the second half of our fiscal year, and I'm looking forward to our Virtual Analyst Day next week on Tuesday, November 9th, where our executive team can share more about the progress and outlook for our long-term strategy. To talk more about the results, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike Dodson, our CFO, to discuss the financials. Mike?
Brian
Thank you, Jamie. Thank you. Welcome to everyone that has joined our call today. Our second fiscal quarter of 2022 represented another quarter of strong customer demand. Revenue for the quarter was $93.2 million, which includes the expected $2 million from Pivot 3, and is up 9% from the same period last year and 5% sequentially, exceeding the high end of our guidance range. The second fiscal quarter revenue doesn't include just over $15 million of orders that were requested by customers in the quarter but could not be fulfilled due to supply constraints, bringing our total backlog to 50 million as compared to 30 million last week. Secondary storage revenues in the quarter were sequentially slightly down as ongoing industry supply constraints continue to restrict our ability to meet all near-term customer demand. Primary storage systems saw a meaningful sequential increase in revenue due to continued recovery in our M&E and federal verticals during the second fiscal quarter. Both verticals have seen multiple headwinds over the last year, driven by COVID and other impacts, and we are pleased with the improvements. The slight sequential decrease in devices and media similar to our first principal quarter, were impacted by the supply constraints. As Jamie discussed earlier on the call, we continue to transition our hardware product offerings to recurrent software licensing, as well as the recently announced new archive storage as a service offering. In future periods, we believe we will see an acceleration of the conversion of our existing customers, as well as signing up new customers. In addition, as Jamie also highlighted, in the coming quarters, we will be transitioning more products to recurring revenue licensing, including CatDV, DXID duplication software, and nCloudN hyperconverge software. Our unprecedented backlog is a result of the strong demand we have seen across our business, but related shipments were limited by the ongoing industry supply constraints. While we remind investors that not all backlog represents potential revenue in the immediate quarter, it is indicative that the underlying business trends remain solid. The backlog also provides greatly improved visibility from our growing hyperscale business. As we noted during our last quarter earnings call, our business has historically had a relatively low level of backlog, typically comprising of less than 5% of our reported quarterly . To provide a bit more color related to the $50 million ending backlog, just over 85% of the backlog was related to tape products, with just over 70% of the backlog specifically related to hyperscaler customers. Approximately 2 thirds of the backlog is expected to be shipped in the second half of fiscal 2022. and the remaining one-third of the backlog has shift dates early in fiscal year 2023. As we mentioned in our press release today, we anticipate supply chain constraints will see further improvement in our third fiscal quarter, which should allow the company to see a sequential reduction in our current backlog levels. Gap gross margin in the second fiscal quarter was 41%, down approximately half a point from the prior quarter. The non-GAAP gross margin equaled 42% in the quarter, flat sequentially with the first quarter. Towards the back half of the quarter, we experienced higher costs incurred in the supply chain that accounted for just over 1% of gross margin pressure during the quarter, and we expect the same pressure, the same level of cost pressure for the entire third fiscal quarter which is expected to impact our gross margin by as much as two percentage points. Gap operating expenses in the second quarter were $39.3 million compared to $37.3 million in the prior quarter. Non-gap operating expenses in the second fiscal quarter were $35.4 million, an increase of $2 million sequentially. The sequential increase in non-gap operating expenses was primarily due to the inclusion of operating expenses related to Pivot 3 and increased sales spend to support new product introductions and long-term growth initiatives. Overall, G&A spending was down $400,000 sequentially, primarily due to lower professional fees related to the timing of audit services. Gap net loss in the second fiscal quarter was $9.3 million, or a loss of $0.16 per share, which included debt extinguishment charge of $15 million, partially offset by the $10 million gain from the forgiveness of our prior PPP loan. This compares to a net loss of $4.2 million, or a loss of $0.07 per share in the prior fiscal quarter. Excluding stock compensation, restructuring charges, and non-recurring charges, non-GAAP adjusted net income in the second fiscal quarter was $113,000 or break-even, exceeding the high end of our guidance range compared to adjusted net income of $125,000 or break-even in the prior quarter. Adjusted EBITDA during the second fiscal quarter was $5.3 million, which exceeded the high end of our guidance range and was roughly flat sequentially. There's a full reconciliation of our non-GAAP results to the most correctly comparable GAAP measure in both the press release and the Form 10-Q release today. Now, turning to the balance sheet, liquidity, and cash flows. Cash and cash improvements and restricted cash were $23.2 million as of September 30, 2021, compared to $24.6 million on June 30, 2021. Adjusted working capital excluding deferred revenue balances decreased by $2 million during the second fiscal quarter to $56 million from $58 million at the end of the prior fiscal quarter. This decrease was primarily the result of an increase in current liabilities, partially offset by higher levels of working capital assets. Outstanding long-term debt as of September 30, 2021, which included $10 million drawn down on the revolver, was $101.4 million after netting $4.9 million in unamortized debt issuance costs, plus $3.1 million in current portion of long-term debt. This compares to $81.3 million of outstanding debt as of June 30, 2021, after netting $8.8 million in unamortized debt issuance costs, and $11.9 million in the current portion of long-term debt that included the $10 million PPP loan that was forgiven in the second fiscal quarter. As a reminder, we successfully refinanced our long-term debt early in the second fiscal quarter following a paydown of half of the term debt balance in the quarter ended March 31, 2021. Collectively, these transactions have reduced our annual interest expense by $22 million with a pre-tax EPS benefit of approximately $0.37 per share and a reduction of annual cash payments for interest of $15 million. Excluding the increase in the revolver balance at the end of the second quarter, the sequential increase in the net debt balance is related to incurring prepayment penalties, lender fees, and legal fees to complete the refinancing. The company also paid from cash reserves $3.7 million to cover a portion of these charges to complete the refinancing. So, taking into account the revolver balance of $10 million, at the end of the second fiscal quarter, net cash decreased by $11.4 million. This decrease was primarily due to the $5 million cash payment for Pivot 3, $3.7 million for refinancing costs, and CapEx of $1.2 million. Finally, turning to our financial outlook. Given the continued strength in customer demand and continued improving conditions and supply chain constraints, for the third fiscal quarter of 2022, we are guiding revenues of $104 million plus or minus $5 million non-GAAP adjusted net income of break-even, plus or minus $1 million, non-GAAP adjusted net income per share of zero, plus or minus $0.02, and adjusted EBITDA of $5 million, plus or minus $1 million. Currently, we are maintaining our full-year revenue guidance range of between $380 to $420 million, with the range reflecting the potential timing and magnitude of the supply chain improvements. With that, I'll turn the call back to Jamie for closing comments. Jamie?
Brian Cabrera
Thanks, Mike. Our fiscal second quarter delivered strong financial results with both sequential and year-on-year revenue growth, exceeding our guidance on all key metrics. Our quarterly bookings have continued to see momentum, which resulted in another quarter of record backlogs entering the third fiscal quarter. Our long-term transition towards a higher mix of software and service subscription revenue continues to progress, validated by another quarter of increased bookings for our Cat TV solution. We expanded our addressable market and video surveillance and large data archives while demonstrating continued growth as we make progress in building a base of recurring revenue from software and subscription services. Combined with our view of an improving supply chain picture, we believe Quantum remains poised for a strong second half of fiscal 2022. Please join us next week at our virtual analyst day event. You can register at investors.quantum.com. We appreciate your continued interest in Quantum. With that, We'll now take any questions you may have. Operator?
Operator
Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to be placed in the question queue, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing star 1. We ask you to please ask one question and one follow-up, then return to the queue. Our first question today is coming from Craig Ellis from B. Reilly. Your line is now live.
Craig Ellis
Yeah, thanks for taking the question, and congratulations on the financial performance in the quarter. Jamie, I wanted to start with just a high-level question. Given what you saw inter-quarter with some of the supply chain issues, Is it reasonable to think that the worst of the supply chain pressures is behind quantum? Obviously, they're still out there and still out there for everybody, but do you feel like the ops team and your suppliers are in a better position than where we were three months ago now?
Brian Cabrera
Yeah, I mean, with the information we have in front of us, I would say it's a dramatically different situation. What I know now is For the last several weeks, we've received among the highest weekly shipments of the constrained tape component that we needed the most. So we have several weeks of evidence. I always said that in October and November, we'd see it strengthening, and we've seen that. So we are receiving much larger shipments of the tape component that we lacked. Now, we are getting other surprises across our products. Sometimes it's hard drives. Sometimes it's NVMe. Sometimes it's just a random chip component connector. We are seeing other surprises, but their magnitude is much less. So overall, the situation has improved dramatically. You see that in our guidance, and we expect to start burning down through that somewhat enormous backlog over the next two to three quarters.
Craig Ellis
That's very helpful. And then the second question is really a multi-part question on the primary storage business. So great to see it up 45% with of recovery in media and entertainment in federal government. The question is, is that recovery in those two segments, sustainable and Mike, given the strength in primary in the quarter, why wouldn't we have seen more improvement in primary, or excuse me, not primary, but product gross margins in the quarter given what should have been favorable inter-segment mixed dynamics?
Brian Cabrera
Yeah, Greg, I'll speak really quickly to the market conditions. Media and entertainment is stronger in television and sports, but I still think feature films and film in general, feature films, motion picture, things with theatrical debut is still, I would say, touch and go. It's certainly not the production. There just aren't as many movies being filmed today as there were, and there's not as much spend on the equipment. But we are seeing strength in primary in that we're selling our products to more verticals. You know, we had a goal to move beyond media and entertainment into genomics, life sciences, medical imagery, scientific computing, and I think we've we're starting to see that diversification of end markets starting to play out. Now, I will tell you, though, one of the things you may recall, though, in primary storage, it was one of the first products where we separated the hardware from the software and were selling the software on subscription. So our most, our highest margin, most valuable sale of software is not recognized up front anymore. it's recognized usually on a three-year term. So we're starting to see the impact of moving our business model to a subscription model where that software that we used to get paid up front is now over typically a three-year contract. So that deferred revenue is impacting that, and that's why there's so much pressure on us to show you the other side of the equation which is the ARR, the TCV, and the RPO that's coming from that. And we're gonna start providing some insight into where we are with that at our investor conference. And we're still committed that in Q4, we're gonna start showing the ARR and all the deferred revenue from our software subscription business.
Brian
Yeah, and Craig, what I would add to that is, as I had mentioned in my comments, We had higher supply chain costs. We figured it impacted us about one percentage point across the board. So that was another factor that was weighing down on our gross margins.
Craig Ellis
And there's an incremental 200 basis points, you think, in the fiscal third quarter. Is that what you mentioned in your remarks, Mike?
Brian
Well, yeah. We expect that to be even bigger in Q3, right? Up to two points. We are working to add a surplus charge to our customers at 1.75%. So we're hoping to minimize that or offset that. But we do see those costs being higher going forward as well. Thanks for the help, guys. I'll hop back in the queue. Okay. Thanks, Greg.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Nehal Chokshi from Northland Capital Markets. Thank you.
Nehal Chokshi
And congrats on a strong result. Given the supply constraint issues affecting everyone, presumably guidance is more a reflection of supply expectations rather than demand expectations. So can you share what your expectations are for bookings, i.e., change in RPO plus revenue? That's the question there.
Brian
Well, we don't give guidance on bookings, but we still see continued demand. We do expect... at the level of revenue that we have forecasted, that our ending backlog next quarter will be lower than $50 million. So we will be utilizing or burning up some of that backlog, but still a very strong demand environment.
Nehal Chokshi
Got it. Okay. And is it the right way to calculate bookings to look at the change in RPO plus revenue, and that would be your bookings number, or is there something else going on there?
Brian
Well, the RPO number that's in the 10Q, that is basically the deferred revenue plus our backlog. So, you know, as we burn down our backlog, that number will come down, and then it will move just as deferred revenue, which deferred revenue can be a bit lumpy, especially as we go into the December quarter, because a lot of our customers sign up new contracts. So you would expect that to go up.
Nehal Chokshi
Okay, great. And then given that one-third of backlog is for early fiscal year 23 delivery, does that mean that most of the incremental backlog that you collected up in the current quarter was due to increased visibility that was discussed with respect to hyperscalers? And thus, bookings for fiscal year 22 relative to a quarter ago is about the same?
Brian
Yeah, I mean, it's fair to say that The bookings that are out in next year, FY23, is kind of the normal run rate. We just have visibility. We just have the assurance that we've got the orders in hand. I see. Okay, great. Thank you. Thanks, Nahal.
Operator
Thank you. As a reminder, that's star 1 to be placed into question queue. Our next call is coming from George Evenich from Oppenheimer. Your line is now live.
George Evenich
Thank you, and I'll also add my congratulations on the solid results. Jamie, I know you mentioned that you're already starting to see some cross-selling synergies with the Pivot3 acquisition. Could you give us an update on overall sales productivity, sales additions in addition to the people that you added with Pivot3?
Brian Cabrera
Yeah. So we will be adding... the sales of Pivot3 to our primary storage business and not be breaking out its results separately. That being said, whenever we make an acquisition, we put a three-year performance together with quarterly sales targets. And both last quarter and our projections this quarter is we'll be beating that plan. And what's happening is, just as you indicated, we have the former pipeline that Pivot3 had, but now what you have is our very large install base of stadiums, banks, local governments, federal governments, defense organizations. Our entire sales team is now compensated to cross-sell surveillance into our large and loyal install base, and we're starting to see quite a bit of traction from that in the pipeline as well as in quarter. So we are right now, for last quarter and for the quarter in front of us, we're beating our internal objectives with our surveillance business.
George Evenich
And just following up on that, a couple of questions. One, you're seeing, based on the segment splits, very strong traction in EMEA and APAC. Can you give us a sense of some color behind that? And then just kind of a bookkeeping. I believe the 380 to 420 guidance previously excluded Pivot 3. Is that still the case? Or am I correct on that? And how should we look at the four-year guidance? Thank you.
Brian Cabrera
Yeah. You know, we put in new sales leaders in both EMEA and Asia, and they've both been on board just about a year. And so what you're seeing is the impact of the new ideas, the new energy, the new strategies they've put in place. Also in EMEA, I think you're seeing a lot of strength in our data protection business because of data sovereignty issues, data export issues, laws in different countries, there's more, I see more often people use on-premise backup strategies, as well as in Europe and in Asia, we really put a strong focus on our enterprise business. In the US, I think we put a lot of energy into media and entertainment. And that is weighing a little more on the historic rough results in North America, whereas in Europe and in Asia, they're more balanced across enterprise and media and entertainment. But also in Asia, when we were financially pressured, we really put very little energy into Asia. And over the last year and a half, Because of the enormous populations in India, the enormous populations in China, we know that there are going to be media and entertainment hotspots. We've also modified our portfolio to be more relevant in those markets, be priced more appropriately for those markets. We have ways to build in those markets. And we're seeing a lot of traction from that. And we think we're going to do a lot more across the Middle East, a lot more across Europe, beyond just the three large economies. And we're just pressing into more places like China, India, Brazil, and we're starting to see the results of those efforts.
George Evenich
And just on the pivot three inclusion and the 380 to 420, is that in there or not in there?
Brian Cabrera
I'll let Mike address that.
Brian
Yeah, when we gave the guidance last quarter, we said it was not including Pivot 3. What we said about Pivot 3 was it was about $2 million, and that's what we talked about in the script that this quarter included $2 million. When we look forward, it's a business unit, and we really don't break out the revenue at that level. But we also believe it's not something that's so material as to change our guidance. So that's kind of how we're treating it.
George Evenich
Okay, very good. Thank you very much.
Operator
Okay, thanks. Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Eric Martinucci from Lake Street. Your line is now live.
Eric Martinucci
Yeah, I'm going to address the guidance. It seems like a pretty wide band. If I look at the back half of the year, we're We're talking about on the order of, I don't know, 200 to 240 million, anywhere from 100 to 120 million a quarter. Why aren't we tightening that band a little bit given the backlog that we're talking about?
Brian
Yeah. I mean, that's a good question. Our backlog does give us more visibility and help us drive our contract manufacturers with better visibility as far as the orders. But we also still have the uncertainties of the supply chain. So just given those uncertainties, we wanted to keep it a little broader than we typically do. I mean, we usually go, say, 4 million. So it's not significantly broader, but it is a little broader than we typically do.
Eric Martinucci
Okay. And then just following up, kind of related to gross margins, but also kind of related to the revenue, what about a price increase? You're obviously seeing... price pressures, whether it's the actual cost of goods or expedite and freight fees? What about raising the price list so that we've got some relief on the revenue side for the cost of goods?
Brian Cabrera
Yeah, we actually have instituted a series of those programs. We first instituted a 1.75% across the board. surcharge to deal with predominantly the increase in transportation fees and shipping fees. Certain of our products, when we moved the Stornex product to subscription and as we're moving DXI to subscription, in that we're instituting price increases in the 8% to 15% range based on various products. Same thing with active-scale cold storage. With the introduction of that product, we've added price increases. We introduced the H4000, and we'll be introducing the H4000 Essentials, and those are both at premium pricing as well. So we're doing a combination of surcharges across the board and then product-specific price increases as well. And for our large customers who are ordering or putting purchase orders down that are very large and require us to buy a very large amount of materials, we're moving to a model where we're going to be asking for deposits to help offset the cost of the amount of materials. Some of them we have to buy six, nine, and even 12 months ahead of orders. These very long lead time materials we'll be asking for deposits for as well. So we're instituting a variety of programs to offset, you know, the inflationary environment that we're in.
Brian
And one thing that... Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, just to add on to that, understanding that anywhere where we've got orders already, you know, you've got to honor that pricing. So it takes a little bit of time for that to work in.
Eric Martinucci
Right, right. The use of the word surcharge, is that the same thing as saying you expect it to be temporary and that the surcharge goes away?
Brian Cabrera
Yeah. I mean, I think or I would expect that the amount of expediting that we're doing, the amount of you know, we're paying extra to get drivers, quite frankly, to get trucks to show up on time. We're paying a premium for that, and I would expect, as things settle down, that isn't a normal course of business.
Eric Martinucci
Gotcha. Thanks for taking my question.
Brian Cabrera
Yeah.
Operator
Thanks, Eric. Thank you. Next question today is coming from David Dooley from Steelhead Securities. Your line is now live.
Eric
Yeah, thanks for taking my question. As far as the products that you plan to move to the software and service model, how far along are we that, how long are you with that program as far as total revenue goes and what you expect to move to that model? How far along are you on that?
Brian Cabrera
I think we're at the final stages. So we moved last November, so a year ago, StoreNext, ActiveScale, and the all-terrain file system to subscription. We are now, this month, moving DXI to subscription. We're moving CatDV to subscription. We launched active-scale cold storage as a service, so it's on a subscription. We have StoreNext in the Amazon Marketplace, which is on subscription. The only thing at this stage that is not on subscription is our surveillance business and our tape hardware business. Now, the tape hardware will more increasingly sell as part of active scale cold storage and will be moving the surveillance business to both software and to software subscription. Our traditional businesses of DXI, ActiveScale, Stornex, they're all being moved over now. And I think Q4 will be our first quarter where basically everything except surveillance and tape hardware will be on subscription. In the Q3, we'll be making the final moves over. And Q4 will be a complete quarter where Again, everything except surveillance and tape hardware is going to be on subscription. And that quarter we'll announce the more modern metrics, if you will, for a subscription business of TCV, RPO, and ARR. We'll, at the investor day, give you what you should expect that will exit the year at in ARR and what you can expect total recurring revenue looks like at the end of our fiscal 22.
Eric
Okay, and as a follow-up, on gross margins, you know, I think I understood your explanation, but maybe you could just dig in a little more detail. You know, when you move to a software and subscription model, typically gross margins go up, yet we're seeing them go down a little bit. Could you just Sure. Review the map on the front end and the back end like you were talking about so we get a clear picture as to when they're going to get better again.
Brian Cabrera
I mean, I'll walk through an example, and I think Mike will give you more color. We closed a large sports company where they bought $2 million of the Stornex software. Now, in our old model, I would have recognized that 2 million of software, which is at 80 or 90 points of margin, we would have recognized it now. But instead, we recognized probably one or two months of that, and the other 34 months of that will be recognized over the next 34 months. So what we're doing as we, rather than, like CatDV, if I sell a million dollars of CatDV, In the old days, we'd recognize a million and quarter. Now I recognize 136 per month over the next 36 months. But I recognize the hardware up front. So we're recognizing the lowest margin parts of it now while taking the highest margin pieces and spreading it over three years. And that's why if you just look at revenue And margin, you're not seeing the whole story. You've got to see that ARR story. And we're just in that transition. And again, this will be the last quarter, the Q3 quarter is the last quarter where we're not going to be bringing those metrics forward. In Q4, everything is going to be based in and around subscription and the metrics of a subscription business.
Brian
Yeah, and Dave, what I would add to that is we're in the early stages, right? I mean, all these products will be available, but they're building over time. And we'll give a sense of how this will look over the next five years on our analyst day as well. So I think that'll also help you understand how we transition to this recurring revenue model. When we get out five years, We still expect 30% of our revenue will be product-based revenue, right? So we're not moving the entire business or don't expect to move the entire business to the recurring revenue.
Brian Cabrera
And our goal is a 70-30 model, 70% recurring, 30% upfront one time.
George Evenich
Thank you.
Operator
Okay. Thanks, Ben. Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further closing comments.
Brian Cabrera
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Operator
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