QuickLogic Corporation

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

11/17/2021

spk01: Today's call is being recorded for replay purposes through November 24th, 2021. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Finucchi of Darrow Associates. Mr. Finucchi, please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, Operator, and thanks to all of you for joining us. Our speakers today are Brian Faith, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Anthony Contos, Interim Chief Accounting Officer. As a reminder, some of the comments QuickLogic makes today are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. including but not limited to stated expectations relating to revenue from new and mature products, statements pertaining to QuickLogic's future stock performance, design activity and its ability to convert new design opportunities into production shipments, timing and market acceptance of its customers' products, schedule changes and production start dates that could impact the timing of shipments, the company's future evaluation systems, broadening the number of our ecosystem partners, and expected results and financial expectations for revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, profitability, and cash. Actual results or trends may differ materially from those discussed today. For more detailed discussions of the risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could result in those differences, please refer to the risk factors discussed in QuickLogic's most recent filed periodic reports with the SEC. QuickLogic assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements or information which speak as of the respective dates of any new information or future events. In today's call, we will be reporting non-GAAP financial measures. You may refer to the earnings release we issued today for a detailed reconciliation of our GAAP to non-GAAP results and other financial statements. We have also posted an updated financial table on our IR webpage that provides current and historical non-GAAP data. Please note, QuickLogic uses its website, the company blog, corporate Twitter account, Facebook page, and LinkedIn page as channels of distribution of information about its business. Such information may be deemed material information, and QuickLogic may use these channels to comply with its disclosure obligations under Regulation FD. A copy of the prepared remarks made on today's call will be posted at QuickLogic's IR webpage shortly after the conclusion of today's earnings call. I would now like to turn the call over to Brian.
spk08: Thank you, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining our third quarter fiscal 2021 financial results conference call. Our Q3 results were among the best QuickLogic has ever reported. Revenue of $3.9 million was the highest we have generated in six years, and due to a higher mix of software and IP-related sales, non-GAAP gross margin was 73%, an all-time record for QuickLogic. We also made significant progress on our bottom line with a non-GAAP net loss under $400,000, the lowest since Q4 of 2010. And when we include our outlook for Q4, which Anthony will provide a bit later, our revenue for the second half of fiscal 2021 alone will be almost the same as we reported for all of fiscal 2020. These results further validate that our transformation to a platform company focused on enabling more edge, artificial intelligence is well underway. We are doing this by marrying our decades of expertise in programmable logic with the power, breadth, and continually expanding open source software and hardware ecosystems. I am very proud of the QuickLogic and Sensible teams for their amazing accomplishments and thank them for their dedication and efforts to get us to where we are today. Since we embarked on this new path forward nearly two years ago, our commitment to leveraging open source is fueling what I believe to be a once in a multi-decade opportunity to disrupt the mature FPGA market. QuickLogic has quickly established itself as one of the leaders in this fast-moving market. We are now at the tipping point for scaling this new approach more broadly, which is coinciding with accelerating market demand for embedded FPGA IP cores and FPGA devices that are supported by open source tools. With our powerful combination of leading edge products, growing customer and industry relationships, and an increasing network of distribution partners, I am even more confident that we are beginning of a long-term trajectory that will deliver higher revenue and earnings, which should ultimately lead to improved shareholder value. Now I want to move into some of the items that drove our third quarter results and developments that will serve as the building blocks for our future success. First, let's start with a significant development that strengthened our financial position. At the end of September, two of our longtime shareholders approached me about making a strategic investment in the company. These holders recognized the tremendous opportunities ahead. The transaction was done at no market discount, raising a little over $1 million. The funding should ensure we have the capital to execute on our near-term growth objectives. We also announced our largest eFPGA contract ever, a $2 million design win. Part of this revenue was captured in Q3, with the remainder expected in Q4. This was an intense and lengthy process. The customer performed an extensive evaluation of several programmable logic companies. Ultimately, they chose QuickLogic because of our proven track record in delivering high-quality programmable logic devices, eFPGA IP, and FPGA user tools combined with our strategic Quark open source initiatives. This is the first of what we believe will be several seven-digit opportunities, which makes us excited about the prospects for 2022 and beyond. Also in September, we formally announced the Astralis eFPGA IP generator, which is the opening to what I believe is a new era of mass FPGA and embedded FPGA customization. The Astralis tool is going to be a game changer. The Astralis tool generates eFPGA IP in a highly automated way, including the implementation of customer-specific variants. The tool is built with scale in mind with the ability to generate an eFPGA IP core for a new foundry and process node within a few months and derivatives to currently supported foundry and process node combinations within weeks or even days. To be clear, we will use the Australis tool to address multiple challenges and opportunities. Developers will be able to create eFPGA implementations for intellectual property protection, offloading and hardware acceleration of artificial intelligence or machine learning processes, or simply create a range of product variants for fragmented markets. Being able to do all of this quickly and with the flexibility to easily target the same node as the SOC means that these significant benefits come at a very low cost. We are already seeing the Astralis tool pay dividends. A few weeks ago, we announced our first customer success story, in which we used the Astralis tool to generate a customized eFPGA IP for UMC's 22 nanometer process. More importantly, this was a new foundry and process combination for us, and we were able to go from contract to IP delivery within only four months, substantially faster and with much less development costs than with our previous development methodology. The customer Motivations reflect many of the reasons we believe that using embedded FPGA technology for SOC applications is a smart technical and business decision. Being able to execute quickly and with the flexibility to easily target the same node as the SOC is using means that these significant benefits come with a very low cost and a very fast time to IP delivery. We are seeing an increase in RFPs and RFQs for our eFPGA IP, and this is exactly what the Australis tool enables. leading to better market penetration and financial results for us in the coming years. Those are some of the key announcements we made since our last call. Now I want to offer some comments about what we are seeing near term for our EFPGA business. We are currently working on several initiatives that have the potential to generate tens of millions of dollars in revenue over the next three years. Given the sensitivity of these programs and confidentiality restrictions we are bound to, We can't discuss companies or give granularity on applications. However, from a 50,000-foot level, let me cover the following. We recently signed a large, very near seven figures, ESPGA-related contract for a process technology we have not targeted before. We will be using the Australis tool to go from customer contract to IP delivery in less than two months, a record for us. We believe this will likely lead to a follow-on multi-million dollar contract in 2022 with additional opportunities in future years. These types of opportunities would simply not have been possible a couple of years ago. Now, through our eFPGA initiatives, growing presence with the open source FPGA Foundation, and an expanding toolbox of key products, we have the opportunity to bid on significant proposals and execute for revenue. Outside of our eFPGA business, we announced a strategic partnership with Rubidium Limited, a leader in voice recognition and always-on voice trigger software. We are providing Rubidium a complete voice recognition solution based on our very low-power EOS S3 voice and sensor platform, which they will combine with their own voice user interface software. This is very attractive for IoT Edge applications, particularly those that are battery-powered or lack cloud connectivity. Our Sensible business continues to gain traction. Recently, we announced that Sensible has teamed with OnSemi, one of the semiconductor industry giants, enabling the development and integration of AI-based algorithms into their manufacturing, robotics, or predictive maintenance applications without needing to have expertise in data science or AI. The OnSemi RSL10 sensor development kit, combined with the Sensible tools, has produced a compact but sophisticated platform that's perfectly suited for driving next-generation Industry 4.0 solutions. This is a major win for Sensible. We once again expanded our distribution channels, finding a worldwide distribution agreement with Digi-Key Electronics. Our ESS3 low-power microcontrollers and PolarPro3 low-power FPGAs, all supported by 100% open-source software, as well as our dev kits, are now available through that channel. This agreement is complementary to the agreement Sensible signed with DigiKey earlier this year. Our partnership with DigiKey is an important milestone in our global growth strategy and increasing our presence worldwide. Our smartphone-related sales came down a little as expected in the third quarter after a very strong Q2, and we expect them to come down a little further in Q4 as our smartphone customer prepares for their next smartphone launches. Despite that sequential drop for the year, we are proud to say that our smartphone revenue will be approximately 60% higher than the prior year. We ended the quarter in 10 phones, including multiple 5G models. A new smartphone was just launched yesterday that includes our EOS S3, and we believe our lead smartphone customer will continue to use EOS S3 through 2022 and into at least 2023 on multiple models. With respect to the supply chain issues that have been discussed by many companies, our lead times have increased for the final assembly and test productions. What used to be a six to eight week turnaround is now stretching to six months or more. We are countering some of the delays by leveraging our inventories of substrates and finished materials. However, this issue is not going away anytime soon, so we may need to build additional inventory ahead of customer shipments to minimize risk. Finally, in our mature product segment, revenue decline is expected. Ongoing supply chain issues impacting our mature customers particularly in the civilian aerospace market, in addition to the lingering effects of COVID-related business disruptions, continue to hold back revenue in this segment. Without good clarity, it is difficult for us to see how mature revenue will be much different in the first half of fiscal 2022 than it will be in the second half of fiscal 2021. I know I have covered a lot of topics that will be instrumental in our ongoing business and financial improvements. Simply put, 2021 is proving to be the most pivotal time in QuickLogic's long history. It has not been easy, and there may still be bumps in the road in the future. However, the financial results we are reporting today and the outlook we have for both near and long term are the proof points validating that our transition is succeeding. With that, I will turn the call over to Anthony.
spk07: Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon to everyone joining us on today's call. As Brian mentioned, our revenue was the highest since the third quarter of fiscal 2015 and represents the successful progress QuickLogic is making on its business and product transformation. For the third quarter of fiscal 2021, revenue was 3.9 million. This compares with revenue of approximately 2.9 million in the second quarter of 2021 and 1.8 million in the third quarter of 2020. This reflects an increase of 2.1 million or approximately 117% compared with the same quarter last year. Within Q3 revenue, sales of new products were approximately 2.8 million, the highest since Q3 2015. This compares with about 1.3 million last quarter and 639,000 in the third quarter of 2020. Our mature product revenue was approximately 1.1 million compared with 1.6 million last quarter and 1.1 million in the third quarter of last year. In Q3, we had three customers who each accounted for 10% or more of our revenue. Non-GAAP gross margin in Q3 was 72.8%, which is an all-time record for QuickLogic. Product mix, which included higher EFPGA and other services revenue, were the main reasons for the improvements. The Q3 gross margin compares with 51.5% in the prior quarter and 53.9% in the same quarter of 2020. I should remind everyone that second quarter gross margin was primarily impacted by a write-down of raw materials of approximately 156,000. This caused a 5% reduction in gross margin. Nonetheless, you can see that gross margin was up substantially from the prior quarter. Non-GAAP operating expenses for Q3 were approximately 3.2 million. This compares with 3.3 million in Q2 and 2.6 million in the third quarter of last year. Within our Q3 operating expenses, R&D was approximately 1.5 million and SG&A was 1.7 million. This compares with R&D and SG&A of 1.6 million and 1.7 million respectively in Q2 and 1.3 million for both R&D and SG&A in the third quarter of last year. Non-GAAP net loss was 0.4 million or a loss of $0.03 per share based on 11.6 million shares. This compares with a net loss of $1.9 million, or $0.16 per share last quarter, and a net loss of $1.7 million, or $0.15 per share in the third quarter last year. The total cash at the end of Q3 was $19.6 million. This compared with $19.0 million at the end of last quarter included in the total cash was a net of approximately $1.5 received from the direct placement. The cash balance also includes the $15 million draw from the revolving line of credit. Now moving to our guidance for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021, which will end on January 2, 2022. The revenue guidance for Q4 of $3.9 million, plus or minus 15%. We believe total revenue in Q4 will be comprised of approximately $3 million for new products, which would be the highest since Q2 of 2015. Mature product revenue is forecasted to be approximately $900,000. This midpoint of guidance, combined with the results from the first three quarters, would translate into annual revenue growing 50% above fiscal 2021, consistent with our previous estimates. Based on the expected revenue mix, non-GAAP gross margin for the quarter will be approximately 64%, plus or minus 5%. At the midpoint, this will result in annual non-GAAP gross margin of 62%, consistent with what we have discussed throughout the year. For comparison purposes, non-GAAP gross margin in fiscal 2020 was approximately 51%. Additionally, the expected decrease in gross margin in Q4 versus Q3 is primarily related to the reclassification of non-recurring engineering expenses to cost of sales in connection with our new EFPGA contract. Our non-GAAP operating expenses will be approximately $3.3 million, plus or minus $300,000. At the midpoint of the range, we expect R&D expenses to be approximately $1.6 million and SG&A expenses to be approximately $1.7 million. As Brian mentioned earlier, with the pipeline of business we see for 2022, we would expect quarterly OPEX will kick up between $200,000 to $300,000 from Q4 levels in order to support the anticipated growth. Just a reminder that the first quarter of each fiscal year is generally a higher spent quarter due to the normal beginning of the year expenses. After interest expense, other income and taxes, we currently forecast our non-GAAP net loss will be approximately $900,000, or a net loss of $0.08 per share based on roughly 11.8 million shares outstanding. Most of the difference between our GAAP and non-GAAP results is our stock-based compensation expense. In Q4, we expect that our stock-based compensation will be similar to Q3. There will be movement in our stock-based compensation over the course of the year, and it could vary each quarter based on the timing of grants and estimates related to performance-related awards. For the balance sheet in Q4, we expect cash usage to be consistent with Q3 in the range of $500,000 to $700,000. With that, let me turn the call back over to Brian for his closing remarks.
spk08: Thank you, Anthony. Before sharing my closing remarks, I would like to offer a warm welcome to Radhika Krishnan to our Board of Directors. As we announced this morning, Radhika is currently serving as the Chief Product Officer and General Manager at Hitachi Vantara, where she is responsible for numerous functions across all product lines. This includes the industry-leading Lumada SaaS portfolio, targeting data management, analytics, AI ML, and industrial IoT market segments. Radhika brings a strong background in software and hardware, and I believe she will have an immediate impact on our AI ML growth strategy for our sensible AI software and EFPGA IP products. In closing, I have been part of the QuickLogic team for more than two decades. At no other time have I or many of our long-term team members been this excited about the future prospects for the company. Customer interest in our new technologies is accelerating, distribution partnerships are expanding our reach, and our financial position is as strong as we have seen in many years. Our sales funnel is strong and growing, and we are exiting this year with more signed IP-related deals than ever before. Sensible has expanded its partnership ecosystem to support nearly all of the top microcontroller companies. Our go-to-market strategy has been and will continue to be focused on products that can generate revenue faster, with higher gross margin and with a high return on investment. With this being the final earnings call this calendar year, I wanted to offer a little more insight into our current thoughts for fiscal 2022. Our pipeline of what I would call winnable opportunities is accelerating, and we continue to balance this knowing that not all of these opportunities will pan out. That said, I can see a pathway for annual revenue in 2022 to grow at the same percentage, if not more, than the growth we foresee in fiscal 2021 over fiscal 2020. At the same time, with an expected higher mix of software and IP-related sales next year, our gross margin could climb into the mid to high 60% range. While operating expenses will grow modestly to support the new customer design wins, we should be on track to reach profitability in the first half of 2022. It has been several years since we have been able to deliver such positive news and a bright outlook. I want to thank our longtime investors, customers, suppliers, and most of all, the QuickLogic team for their continued support and trust. This is a new era for QuickLogic, and our future could not be brighter. That completes our prepared remarks. Operator, I would now like to open the call for questions.
spk01: At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question is from Suji De Silva with Roth Capital. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Hi, Brian. Hi, Anthony. Congratulations on the progress here. Yeah, so the gross margin guide down because you're going to move NREs into COGS. Does that relate to that? It sounds like you had a deal where the Australis is going to allow you to hit a new node you haven't hit before and the RevRec causes that to be delayed until that's available. Is that all part and parcel of the same story?
spk08: It's some of the operating expenses normally that would be in R&D that we're moving up to COGS for the brand new one that I just talked about. There's some things that we've got to move into that specific to that deal for this quarter. So that's why you're seeing some of that move up there in the lower gross margin.
spk00: Okay.
spk02: So for the deal where you're trying to get a node ready for a customer free FPGA, is the rev rec such that you wait till that's all available and then that revenue is recognized as opposed to when you've now initiated the work for that customer?
spk08: These are typically milestone-based license agreements, Suji. So typically they're recognized fully from a revenue point of view when we deliver all the obligations for that. That could be a straight license for an IP that we already have, or if there's some work involved needed to prepare that for delivery, then we have to match those expenses with the revenue from the IP license. So that's why you see that coming up periodically in Q4 for this.
spk02: Okay, so milestone-based, got it. And then looking at the EFPGA pipeline, I guess, just to try to, if you can, give the people on the call and the investors confidence that the $2 million customer you had wasn't kind of a one-off, but that there are multiple of those coming. How would you best, at this juncture, give us the confidence that there are more of these on the way? Because clearly a lot of effort was put in to get that first $2 million customer over the finish line, so... Just be helpful to understand how you have confidence more of those are coming versus the next one's taking as long or longer to bring in.
spk08: Well, the short answer to that is that I mentioned for Q4 we have a near seven-digit new IP license already that we're going to close and deliver within this quarter. So that's already a follow-on from that large $2 million one that we announced just a couple months ago. And then also in the preparator marks I mentioned that we had, I think I used the word several times, other seven digit opportunities that we're chasing right now that we're fully engaged with. So the rate of increase of these RFPs and RFQs is increasing for those, especially for those large ones. And again, I think the fact that we were able to go from announcing that $2 million one just a couple months ago to on this call, announcing one that's darn near seven figures itself, that we can actually close within the quarter and deliver in the quarter, I think is tremendous. And I think that that should give investors not just comfort, but excitement about how many opportunities we're dealing with and that we can close for 2022. Excellent.
spk02: Appreciate that clarification, Brian. And then as I look at the competitive landscape and how you've won some of these FPGA deals, among the other things you talked about, the tools and all that, is Quix Heritage and FPGA giving it a more robust roadmap that might be exciting these customers along with the other elements? I'm curious if that's a factor here.
spk08: Yeah, there's actually, I think, two questions embedded in that, Suji. The first one is that, yeah, the ability for me to get in front of a management across the table and let them know with data that we've been shipping devices for 30 years. Every time they get into an airplane, the flight control and avionics are likely powered by our devices. That gives them a lot of comfort that we know what we're doing in terms of quality, reliability, manufacturability at scale. And we're bringing that to the party from an IP point of view that none of the VC backed startups can talk about with respect to delivering IP. The fact that I can talk about companies that have licensed our technology and put it into radiation-tolerant devices and that those are floating around in space also gives them comfort that we know what we're doing as far as quality, reliability, manufacturability skills. So there's an incredible amount of credibility that we have through that heritage that we bring to these types of deals. Now, the second question was the fact that we're a device company that lent other conversations. And It's interesting because, you know, there's this whole topic around, you know, and I think the supply chain really has shown a bright light on this. People are having a hard time getting parts. They're having a hard time shipping their own products because they can't get parts. And they're reevaluating their own supply chain. And do they take more control of their own supply chain by perhaps doing their own devices? And so that's bringing a whole new basket of opportunities for the ESPGA side because they may think about doing their own device. They like the fact that we actually have an operations team in place. And we have taped out so many devices and we sell them and we have supply chain relationships. So we can actually offer services on the device side of their business and serve them with devices or IP. And we're somewhat unique in that capability. Then the last thing I'll say is that there's a lot of talk in the market about chiplets and has the time finally come that people are going to start using chiplets and heterogeneous packaging technology to solve some of these issues. And I personally, I think the answer is yes to that. And I think, again, the supply chain issues are, Shining a light at this may be the time for that really to take hold, and perhaps we can be participating in that too because we have the ability to tape out devices, work the supply chain all the way through package tests and chip lists to people as well. So I think the opportunities are vast, but we definitely come from a point of credibility with these customers. We're not a startup overnight, right? We've been in this business for a long time.
spk02: Okay. One last question, then I'll jump back in the queue. I know you're being cautious about speaking about these EFPGA customers, the licensing customers, but I'm trying to get any flavor or color on this. What end markets maybe are the most interested, you know, if that is a way to think about this in terms of your wins that are driving some of this interest? Or if you want to answer it differently, maybe, you know, you have the Google open source community, you have the DARPA partnership and all that. Which of those maybe are being the most productive near term in getting you leads that are closing?
spk08: I think in the near term, and if you look at our heritage of business here, so today we sell to five of the top five, eight of the top 10 DOD primes already. And you can see that we got into the DARPA toolbox at the beginning of the year. So I think that segment, it uses a lot of FPJs. We have a really good reputation in that space. I can imagine that would be one of the early markets that we start to see a lot of the success here. That being said, that $2 million contract is not in that space. So we are seeing diversity in space. That $2 million contract is more for what I would classify as the general industrial instrumentation and test space that's also out there. So we have good diversity right now already with our IP contracts. By the way, the first one, the first contract, the one that was on the 22 UMC, that was in consumer audio. So that's even yet another market. So with our first three deals at three different markets, and I think that speaks to the the breadth of the funnel.
spk02: Excellent color, Brian. Congratulations again, guys.
spk09: Thanks. Thanks, Vijay. Thanks.
spk01: As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. Our next question is from Rick Neaton with River Shore Investment Research. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Thank you. Thank you, Brian, and congratulations. on the quarter and the guidance for the fourth quarter. I'd like to talk about Sensible a bit. You've announced a lot of partnerships and joint marketing efforts. Are you seeing any early trends of customers of these microcontroller OEMs trying out Sensible, using it or buying it? And if so, in what types of use cases and how frequently are they doing it?
spk08: Well, the reception from these microcontroller partners has been really positive, especially I would say the last three that we've brought on board. They've been very active in terms of integrating Sensible into the sales and marketing outreach that these companies are doing in terms of seminars, webinars, et cetera, the last three being Microchip. Silicon Labs and on Semi. Those have resulted in immediate opportunities coming in, especially if you think about the more we get the application engineering groups trained at these microcontroller companies, they can really be spokespeople out to the customer base as they're looking to solve problems. So we have seen immediate opportunities coming in, not just for the lower tier, less expensive version, but we actually have signed contracts with customers now that are noteworthy names that you would recognize. to implement AI for their systems. And so we're going through those sort of development phases now with the customers. And I think that speaks well of the future. The more that these other companies really get familiar with the tools and see how it can solve problems, the more opportunities we're going to get. So we're really pushing hard on these most recent three. And I will say from a revenue point of view, we don't break out Sentinel yet as a percentage of revenue because it's not material. But I think our internal forecast, you know, for Q4 or Q3 is double revenue quarter on quarter for Sensible. I'm not going to give the absolute number, but I can show that there is progress there in terms of growth. And it is really coming from these new microcontroller partners. The other thing I'd say too, Rick, is if you step back for a second, a lot of people ask, why are you working with all these different microcontroller partners? And I sort of liken this to the ARM analogy, right? ARM, the microcontroller and apps processor, our IP core company, they got so big because so many engineers started to get familiar with the tool chains that they wrapped around the ARM core. And they got familiar with that to the point that they're talking to their friends and it just sort of expands. And it got to be the point where that was the de facto standard in terms of like what you look for with ARM tool chains and microcontroller cores. So the point of that story is that I think the more people that we get familiar using sensible as the AI toolkit on all these different microcontrollers with their massive install base, um, that we want to become like the arm of the AI software land with, with a sensible toolkit. And you only do that if you can be running on people's processors that are already being used. And the key thing here is that sensible is a software package, so it could be installed on anybody's system. That's already out there that has an internet connection and a sensor that you want to add more intelligence to. Right. So if you think about that massive install base, it's huge for us to be able to tap into that. And if you think about this, too, it's not just 32-bit processors. Microchip has processors that go all the way down to 8-bit, and that's why they like Sensible because they span that range. So I think from a technical point of view, Sensible's got good breadth, and now with the go-to-market partners, it really multiplies that.
spk03: Um, yesterday at its investor day, Qualcomm gave a very bullish outlook for its edge, uh, semiconductor business, uh, through the next three or four of its fiscal years, um, ending in 2024. And, um, most of its growth coming from industrial and automotive applications, Are you seeing increased interest through your open source FPGA in areas like industrial and higher use cases than just small battery powered edge devices that might not have access to power?
spk08: Yeah, I think we are seeing opportunity for that. I would venture a guess that the EPG IP-related revenue we have right now, the WINS that we've talked about, none of them are battery-powered. They're power-sensitive, but they're not battery-powered, which is the traditional sort of wheelhouse of FPGAs if you just step back and look at the general market. But, yeah, I'm glad to hear Qualcomm thinks that. I think that, you know, I've talked with a lot of investors, and they'll say, when is edge computing really going to be here, and not just on people's PowerPoints? But I think if Qualcomm's going out there and saying it, there's probably something there. And I think we're going to be right there with the fact that we have the FPGA, which is good for embedded FPGA applications, and we have Sensible, which is great for adding some intelligent software to those same systems.
spk03: Okay. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate the color on where you see your business heading. Thanks.
spk09: Thank you, Rick.
spk01: Our next question is from Richard Shannon with Craig Hallam. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: Well, thanks, Brian, for taking my questions. Apologies if there's some loud ambient noise in the airport here. I'm also wearing a mask, so if you can't hear me, just tell me. Sorry about that. No problem. First, just a quick question. Your fourth quarter sales number for the guidance, did I hear that right at $4.8 million?
spk08: No, not $4.8.
spk09: $3.9 million.
spk05: $3.9, okay. It's that loud in here, so sorry about that. Okay, that's helpful. And then second of all, last quarter you had mentioned something about your strategic initiative announced back in February and that that situation hadn't been funded. I didn't hear any comments on your prepared remarks. I'm assuming that's not the case. Can you give any more detail about status there? Still working on it? Just any clues, that would be great.
spk08: Yeah, definitely still working on it. I've actually been in discussion with him probably every other week since February. And they're still trying to pull that funding together to get that thing closed. But we're definitely still actively discussing with them and sort of modifying our approach with it, the technical specs and so on. But it has not closed yet. Still active, but not closed.
spk05: Thanks for that. Next question, you talked about growth in 2022 equal to or perhaps higher than what you're – forecasting at the midpoint implied for your sales guide this quarter. Can you kind of talk about some of the drivers here? Where are you going to see, you know, more growth? I think we can all guess, but I'd love to get your characterization of where that growth comes from.
spk08: Yeah, I think, so like we said in the prepared remarks, first half, on the mature side, I think you could just run out flat 2022 from the second half to 21. There should be growth in the EOS S3 segment. from the continued use in the smartphones, like I already mentioned, running out through 2023, in fact, and then some of the other wins that we've been working on with industrial IoT and consumer. There should be some increase in sensible, obviously, through these microcontroller partners, hopefully getting to the point where we're breaking that up as a separate business, which means 10% more revenue. And then, of course, the big driver that we see for next year is on the EFPGA component, IP and other services aspects related to that. That should probably be the single largest segment that we have next year.
spk05: Okay. Excellent. I guess that leads me to my next question. You were talking about the pipeline. You characterized it as tens of millions of dollars. I think you said that many of these deals can be, at least initially, can be seven figures. I'm assuming we're talking about very low seven-figure kind of deals here to start with. So I wonder if you can, I mean, can we just do that simple math here and say a million dollars or so per deal with tens of millions means there's a number of, a few to several dozen of those sitting out there? Is that a fair way to think about the kind of pipeline?
spk08: I'd say there's less than a dozen, but I would pick up the value per opportunity to be more than just one million. A few million, perhaps. or a couple million each.
spk05: Okay. All right. I guess probably my last question here is how to think about the dynamics here that got you to the recent embedded FEJ license, the $2 million one. And I think you're attributing a good deal of success here to the Australis tool. I understand this was to some degree developed with an academic partner. And you said there's a competitive situation where there's a deep evaluation of other competitors. Can other competitors use this tool here, and does that limit your competitive advantage, or can you just kind of discuss those dynamics?
spk08: Yeah, I don't want to get too much away from the competitive point of view on the call. But what I can say is that Astralis, and we've been public about this, Astralis is based on a project at the University of Utah called OpenFPGA that was actually a DARPA-funded program. The things that we're bringing on top of the open source academic tool, I think can't be overstated. We're bringing a lot of our architecture background. This kind of goes back to Suji's question. Why do people buy from QuickLogic? And this is also a good segue here into a proxy here. So if you think about software for a second, Linux is open source, right? And people download Linux and they use it for free in a hobbyist fashion. But if anybody wants to bet their career at their company or their product at their company, they're not going to bet it on somebody that they can just download from GitHub. They're going to want to work with a company that has a product and a support strategy on top of what is open source and free. And that's exactly what we're trying to do with the OpenFPGA and the Astralis platform. So think of us as trying to become sort of the red hat for FPGAs, open source FPGAs, where yes, there's some open source technology available. Yes, that helps with automation. Is that by itself the quality, reliability, and the die size optimizations that you would expect from a commercial product with an entity to support it? No. You need to have that added to that. And that's exactly what this three decades of experience does for QuickLogic and we bring to that table. So could other FPGA companies start to adopt the open source? Sure, it's in the open source, but they'd have to go through the two-year cycle of learning that we went through on this. Remember, Astralis was not born overnight. This is something that has been in the works for almost two years now, and we finally felt that the time was right for us to be able to use it in a commercial fashion and trust that the results of that were going to be something that we could stand by with our customer, and it has. But it was a long road to get there, and I think anybody that's trying to use it in a commercial sense would go through that same loading curve. So I think we've built a pretty good initial competitive moat, and we're not stopping there. We're going to keep going with different things that we would like to do on top of that in terms of Astralis that's not going to be open source.
spk05: Okay. That's excellent. Excellent points there, Brian. Thank you very much for that. I think that's all my questions, so I'll jump out of the line. Congratulations on a great end of the year.
spk09: Thanks, Richard. Appreciate it.
spk01: Our next question is from Martin Yang with Oppenheimer & Co. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: Good afternoon, Brian and Anthony. My first question is on wafer purchase commitment. That number has been consistently growing and was quite large comparing on a year-over-year basis. Can you maybe help us understand what does it mean for your business? What does it say about market supply, demand, or customer engagement?
spk08: Well, as I was thinking there at Preparator Marks, Martin, with the supply chain the way it is, it really behooves us to make sure that we are buying ahead of the actual shipment that we would normally be doing because we just can't handle any disruptions in the supply chain that are worse than what they already are. So we are working with our customers to give them longer lead times that they have to abide by so that we can go off with some confidence and go to the foundries and the assembly houses and, A, get the allocation for next year, in the following year. And then B, get the wafer starts when we need them. So we're managing that. And as I said, you may see some uptick in inventory, in fact, because we want to just have a little bit of buffer to make sure that we can make sure that we ship product to customers that need it.
spk09: It's probably no different than what some of the connector companies are doing.
spk06: Yeah, that makes sense. My next question is on Australis. You talk about this platform is very useful to facilitate designs on new foundries and new process. How in what way does it help with customers that are or implement this for older or more familiar process?
spk08: Well, it can help in the sense that if a customer comes to us and they say, hey, I would like an EFTJ IP core on XYZ process node at ABC foundry, we can do that within about a quarter. from the time that we get access to the PDK. And I know right now there's a huge supply chain crunch, especially on the mature nodes. So we can handle basically any of those requests in a very timely manner. So it gives a lot of options for customers. To be clear, QuickLogic is the one that runs the Astralis tool. We don't give that to customers. There's a lot of nuance into how that works, but we effectively work with the customer on what they need. We work with the foundries to get the libraries that we need, and then we can create the course that the customer wants and deliver that to them. Along with, by the way, the FPGA user tool support that they would ultimately need to program that FPGA.
spk06: Got it. Most of the questions that they asked before, so last thing I want to double check is that you do expect the licensing and software revenue as a percentage of total revenue to be higher in 22 over 21?
spk09: Yes, we do. Okay. Got it. Thanks. Yep. No problem. Any other questions, Brian? That's it. That's it for me. Okay. Great.
spk01: We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Mr. Brian Faith for closing remarks.
spk08: Thanks, Operator. Thank you for participating in today's call and your continued support. We look forward to speaking with many of you again when we participate in upcoming investor events and again when we report our fourth quarter fiscal year 2021 results. Have a great day.
spk01: This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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