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spk05: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Rocky Brands Third Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. If anyone has any difficulties hearing the conference, please press star zero for operator assistance at any time. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded, and I will now turn the conference call over to Brendan Frey of ICR.
spk02: Thank you, and thanks to everyone joining us today. Before we begin, please note that today's session, including the Q&A period, may contain forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on information and assumptions available at this time and are subject to changes, risks, and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially. We assume no obligation to update such statements. For a complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties, please refer to today's press release and our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2020. I'll now turn the conference over to Jason Brooks, Chief Executive Officer of Rocky Brands.
spk04: Thank you, Brendan. With me on today's call is Tom Robertson, our Chief Financial Officer. Like we experienced during the first half of the year, demand for our portfolio of leading brands was very strong during the third quarter. Despite the demand and ample inventory, soon after we completed the Boston Group's inventory from Honeywell's Distribution Center to RDC in Ohio in mid-August, which coincided with a record inbound supply deliveries in preparation for a strong finish to the year, we encountered unforeseen issues that have temporarily impacted our ability to fulfill all orders on time. I'm going to walk through the issues and the steps we've taken to improve the situation and a timeline for returning to a steady state environment. Then I'll provide color on our brand and channel performance, which we will give a better idea of the true demand in the quarter. After that, Tom will review the numbers in details and provide an update on our outlook for 2021. When we completed the acquisition of Honeywell's performance and lifestyle footwear business in March, we knew there was heavy lifting to be done in integrating our two organizations before we could leverage the strength of the combined businesses to expand market share and drive enhanced profitability. While we completed the move of the acquired brands inventory on schedule, soon after we ran into obstacles as we started processing a record number of orders in our Ohio DC. For context, we shipped over 50% more orders in the third quarter of 2021 versus Q3 of last year. But at the same time, the amount of product we received at the DC was up nearly 200% year over year. The congestion made it difficult to keep up with the strong demand. Integrating the Boston Group inventory with our distribution systems was not a direct map over due to differences in Honeywell, and our order systems in our fulfillment process. Knowing it would require additional work to align the inventory with our fulfillment systems, we hired more workers and increased the number of shifts at our distribution center. Due to the tight labor market, it took longer than expected to onboard and train new staff, which led to inefficiencies both in getting product in and out of the DC. While these issues are not fully behind us, we have made steady progress over the past 45 days, improving the organization with the D.C. and are in a much better place, operating at a nearly double the capacity we were before the integration. Helping to alleviate some of the pressure, our new D.C. and Reno, Nevada went live on October 8. we currently expect the Reno DC to be fully up and running during the first half of next year. This will give us a combined 655,000 square feet of space and the ability to house approximately 4.5 million pairs of footwear. Despite the impact from the temporary fulfillment challenges, there were a number of positives in the third quarter. Similar to last earnings call, I'm going to discuss our Ohio and Boston groups separately. In addition to sales results, I'm also going to provide some color on orders and sell-through performance, which will give everyone a much better idea of the underlying strength of our business. Starting with our Ohio group, orders for the third quarter were approximately up 26% versus the same period last year. However, sales increased 8%, reflecting the impact from delayed fulfillment. The recent performance of our Ohio group has been driven by strong demand in both our wholesale and retail segments. Beginning with wholesale, our Western business grew 17% year over year as demand for the Durango brand remains at an all-time high. Several key customers across traditional Western and farm and ranch retail contributed to Durango's performance as each posted strong double-digit growth year over year. The brand continues to become more and more meaningful in true Western categories, which has driven strong sell-through and helped secure additional shelf space throughout 2021. With the weather recently starting to turn colder and rodeo season getting into full swing, many of our Western accounts are seeing a nice pickup in boot sales. While logistics and other global supply chain disruptions limited Durango's potential growth in the quarter, we continue to hear that we are navigating the current situation much better than the majority of our peers. Turning to work. Georgia experienced notable growth with farm and ranch stores, driven and large by demand for the brand's AMP LT collection of boots, including the addition of women's products at several accounts. The introduction of the new AMP LT styles contributed to a record-breaking fall booking season and new shelf space for the brand. Based on recent performance, customers' feedback, and consumer ratings, We are confident we'll be able to continue strengthening and broadening disrupt distribution for this comfort based work platform. The Brock, the Rocky brand, which spans work outdoor Western and commercial military had a number of positive wins during the quarter, despite the growth being hampered by disruption and supply chain headwinds, these challenges. probably had the biggest impact on the brand's outdoor businesses, as some of the key products for the fall season, especially new styles, were difficult to procure and deliver on time. Thankfully, we were carrying inventory of many traditional bestsellers, including our very popular Sport Pro and Sport Utility products. The biggest highlight of the season has been the introduction of our new Mountain Stalker Pro Premium Hunting Trekking Boot, which has provided the brand entry into the technical mountaineering category with a great product at a more accessible price point, something our retail partners are very excited about. Rocky Western continued its strong trend upward despite the supply and distribution challenges. Ordering new products early and carrying over additional inventory has allowed Rocky to capitalize on competitor struggles and build on existing programs and gain new shelf space. Those sales were strong with traditional best sellers. It was the new product that primarily drove the increase for Rocky Western. Like Western, Rocky work was able to grow even in the face of the temporary disruption. due in large part to the explosive growth of the industrial athletic program that has brought in a lot of new business. This includes exclusive product for Zappos that we delivered during the third quarter and has been selling through quite well. Turning to our retail segment, following a 50% increase in e-commerce sales in Q3 of 2020, this channel was down low single digits this year. reflecting the combination of a tough comparison and our delay in processing a portion of online orders on time. As comparisons further ease and we return to our normalized shipping state, we expect to see e-commerce sales resume growth fueled by the work we've done enhancing the functionality of our sites and expanding our direct-to-consumer efforts to marketplaces, particularly Amazon, and more recently, Target Plus, and eBay. Meanwhile, Lehigh continues its recovery from the height of the pandemic. Sales increased 23% over last year, driven by both higher account retention and new accounts, including Striker Corporation, Estes Express Lines, and Schnitzer Steel that launched in Q3. The business is still facing some headwinds from COVID-19 related to accessibility issues and now third-party product delays stemming from supply chain challenges. However, our cruise line business, nearly dormant for 18 months, has started to show signs of recovery while our new email and SMS strategy continues to improve account participation rates, driven revenue per account higher. Shifting now to our Boston group, total orders increased 46% as demand for muck and extra tough is high and continues to grow. Unfortunately, the shipment and inventory challenges has disproportionately hampered the group's Q3 success. Resulting sales were down 31%. The positive here is that over vendors, other vendors are having supply chain, which is keeping the likelihood of accepting late shipments high. Customers have not been canceling open orders, which gives us an excellent opportunity to capitalize on replenishment in Q4. To do this, we are focused on alternative shipping options like cross-stocking and container shipment opportunities to drive inventory to account. In terms of the integration, as discussed earlier, we are making good progress toward returning our Ohio, D.C. to its historical state of efficiency. We remain confident that with the investments we've made in technology and people, along with the new Reno, D.C., we'll be able to realize important savings over time by meaningfully lowering fulfillment costs for the Boston Group brands. We are also on track with migrating the acquired business off Honeywell's ERP system and onto Rocky's by the end of this year. This step is critical to providing our newest brands, customers, and consumers with the world-class service we've been executing at Rocky for years. While I'm disappointed in the temporary setback we encountered during the third quarter, I am confident that we are taking the necessary actions to restore our advanced fulfillment capabilities and fully capture the true demand we are experiencing for our portfolio of leading brands. With the significant growth opportunities we are creating for the business, the long-term future for the company has never been brighter. I'll now turn the call over to Tom. Tom?
spk08: Thanks, Jason. As Jason outlined, growing demand was dampened this quarter by integration-related distribution challenges. While sales compared to the previous record quarter were challenged, net sales for the third quarter increased 61.4% year-over-year to $125 million, with wholesale sales increasing 70.3% to $96 million, retail sales increasing 35.3% to $21.8 million, and contract manufacturing sales up 45.1% to $7.7 million. The third quarter of this year includes $41.6 million in sales from the acquired brands or Boston Group, with approximately $37 million falling in our wholesale segment and $4 million in the retail segment. Turning to gross profit, for the third quarter, gross profit increased 57.4% to $47 million, or 37.4% of sales, compared to $29.8 million or 38.4% of sales in the same period last year. Adjusted gross margin this quarter, which excludes a $900,000 inventory purchase accounting adjustment, was $47.8 million, or 38.1% of net sales. The 30 basis point decrease to adjusted gross margin was primarily attributable to lower wholesale segment margins due to an increase in USA manufacturing and sourcing costs associated with the acquired brands, and a lower mix of retail segment sales compared with the year-ago period, which carry higher gross margins than our wholesale and contract manufacturing segments. Gross margins by segment were as follows. Wholesale, 36.1%, retail, 49.9%, and contract manufacturing, 18.8%. Adjusted gross margins for wholesale were 37.0%. Operating expenses were 44.2 million, or 35.2% of net sales for the third quarter of 2021, compared to 20.2 million, or 25.9% of net sales last year. Excluding $2.9 million in acquisition-related amortization and integration expenses, third quarter 2021 operating expenses were 41.3 million, or 32.9% of net sales. The increase in operating expenses was primarily driven by the expenses associated with the brands we acquired in March of this year. Income from operations decreased to $2.8 million or 2.2% of net sales compared with 9.7 million or 12.4% of net sales in a year ago period. Adjusted operating income, which excludes the inventory purchase accounting adjustment and acquisition-related expenses in Q3 2021, was $6.5 million, or 5.2% of net sales. For the third quarter of this year, interest expense was $3.4 million, compared with essentially no interest expense in a year-ago period. The increase reflects interest payments on the senior term loan and the credit facility we used to fund the Honeywell footwear acquisitions. On a GAAP basis, we reported a net loss of $400,000 or $0.05 per diluted share compared to net income of $7.6 million or $1.04 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2020. Adjusted net income for the third quarter of 2021 was $2.5 million or $0.34 per diluted share. Turning to our balance sheet, at the end of the third quarter, cash and cash equivalents stood at $12.9 million and our debt totaled $238.8 million consisting of $130 million senior secured term loan facility and borrowings under our senior secured asset-backed credit facility. As of September 30th, 2021, we had $35.9 million borrowings available under our credit facility. Inventory at the end of the third quarter was $202 million. compared to $80.7 million in a year-ago period. The $121.5 million increase includes approximately $90 million associated with the acquired brands and approximately $30 million from orders that did not ship on schedule this third quarter. Due to the impact of our second half results from the congestion in our distribution center, we are updating our outlook. For the fourth quarter, we currently expect net sales to be in the range of 155 to 165 million and full year net sales between 500 and 510. By group, we are now expecting Ohio group net sales for 2021 to grow between 15 and 20% compared to our previous outlook of approximately 24%. While our Boston group, we are now expecting full year net sales to be flat to up 5% versus our previous forecast of approximately 20%. As a reminder, we will only recognize 80% of the Boston Group sales based on the timing of the acquisition in March of 2021. As Jason discussed earlier, the temporary shipping and fulfillment issues we are experiencing disproportionately impacted the acquired brands. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready for questions.
spk05: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Susan Anderson with B Reilly. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: Hi, it's Alec Legg on for Susan. Thanks for taking our question. Question on the inventory. You mentioned around 30 million did not ship this quarter. Was that all in wholesale or was there some retail component in that too? And how much of that inventory that did not ship is seasonal and what is the risk that the wholesale accounts reduce or even pull their orders related to that?
spk08: Yeah, so I'll start with when Jason can hop in. You know, so the other $31 million, that's almost all exclusively the wholesale business. There certainly was some impact to retail, but our retail business was not really as behind as the wholesale business. So that would be almost all exclusively wholesale. As for cancellations, we're not seeing a lot of cancellations. I mean, we recognized that we were having the issues the distribution center and so we took we did our best to prioritize what inventory we did have in stock that was more seasonal such as a hunt product that needed to be out the door for hunting season so we did our best to prioritize that but again we are not seeing a significant amount of cancellations uh in the the the retail partners of ours uh are still like the product yeah and alex i would i would just add on that from the seasonal standpoint obviously we sell
spk04: you know, insulated hunting boots, work boots. I think because of the environment that we are living in right now, retailers are not willing to cancel orders. They, they want the inventory when they can get it. And, and so we're a little behind, um, or they may tell you are a lot behind, but at least we're getting some boots out the door. And so, um, as Tom indicated, we just haven't seen that happen. And, you know, we believe that our product is still sellable, you know, as we go into the beginning of the year and even if you want to store it in your back room and sell it next fall.
spk06: Perfect. Thank you. And then a quick follow-up. What ending would you say you are in with the integration of Honeywell's brands and their inventory? And I guess what work needs to be done and what's already done?
spk04: Yeah, so all of the inventory is now either in our Logan, D.C., or as we indicated on the call, we did open up the Reno, D.C. So we have inventory in both places. We are 100% out of the Honeywell, D.C., and everything is being processed through our own D.C. We did also say in the um, report that we are on track to be off of Honeywell's ERP system and out of there by the end of the year. And, and I'm happy to say that that is still on track right now. And I feel very confident that we'll be able to accomplish that and be, and be done by the end of the year. But the inventory is out and, and as we said, middle of August, really, and all of September, this congestion happened. And so we worked really 24-7 to try to eliminate or resolve the issues. And we've been able to slowly, unfortunately slower than I had hoped, been able to move back to a more realistic shipping capability but we still have some ways to go we got to get through this year I think the Reno DC will be helpful next year but but probably not until mid late q1 as a as a full functioning DC we are we are seeing pretty major labor issues out there and trying to hire people which is no surprise anywhere to anybody in the world right now. But I feel comfortable that we are moving in the right direction and that we are able to ship better today than we were a week ago and two weeks ago and three weeks ago.
spk08: Yeah, just to give a little clarity there, specifics on the distribution number. So, if we look back, you know, August things kind of hit the peak of congestion and issues with the integration. So, We're very excited. As Jason said, we've made progress every week. In the month of October, we shipped over 2X what we shipped in August, just from a pair standpoint. We know that we can do better than even where we're at in October, and we need to do it more efficiently. We think that while Reno is up and functioning, there's issues with getting some of the equipment and getting some of the automation put in. So we're still functioning under MENA. It just won't be up to our standards to the beginning to end or get the middle to end of the first quarter.
spk06: Thanks, Jason. Tom, very helpful. Yep.
spk05: Thank you. Our next question is from Camillo Lyon with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Thank you. Good afternoon. I'd really love to just understand a little bit in greater detail what exactly the issues were. I know that there were issues initially when you received the Boston Group inventory, that it was packaged differently. I think you had to go through a whole kind of re-boxing of the shoes. They were in plastic bags. If you could just help us understand exactly what the issues were. and what really needs to happen for you to start operating at the level of efficiency that you expect to?
spk04: Yeah, so I'll start, and I'm sure, Tom, we've been in this pretty heavy, so I'm sure Tom will have something to add. It's really about multiple pieces to this issue, right? So you think about the inventory coming in, and as you stated earlier, The, the idea around the boxes and the UPC codes and how it was different than our warehouse being set up versus their warehouse. And so that was really kind of one piece. RDC was also set up to be more of a sort and pack kind of DC. Because we were capable of doing it that way. So a customer would call and fill in with us every week and we would ship them, you know, 24, 72, 124 pair. And as we started to get the inventory in, what we learned is that the Honeywell business was more done on larger case pack orders. And the case packs were also in either three packs or four packs. And our case packs are in six packs. And so the way you had to put the inventory into the DC was not as efficient. So I had to put two three-packs back-to-back, where if I needed that case pack of six, I now had to pull two, where in ours we could just pull one. And I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but it is inefficient as hell to pull two of those versus one. The other issue we saw was really the inbound inventory. And not only the Rocky inventory that was, excuse me, coming to Logan, but obviously the Muck and Extra Tough Service Neo's brands were also starting to come to Logan. And as they came, we were not receiving shipment notices about them. And so we would have to take those containers, unload them, put a new label on them based off of a inventory report that we got. And that took more time than our Rocky Georgia Durango products. We just scan it and put it away. So taking the labels, putting them on the boxes, and then putting them in the racking was taking more time. And then the inconsistency of the way those containers would show up. So normally, we would have a pretty normal flow, right? a couple three or four five six containers a day well with the logistic problem that everybody is aware of right now what we would get is 10 containers today and then no containers for two days and then 30 containers and so we had a lot of backup around that and then the third piece that really affected us was the people thing we were not able to hire as quickly as we had hoped. And we started this process of hiring these people, you know, long before August, knowing that we were moving the inventory and the deal closed in March. But it took us longer to hire those people. And then getting those people up to speed at the level of capability is taking a little bit longer or was taking a little bit longer. And so I think those are kind of all the problems. So we've been able to rearrange the DC and become more efficient with the organization in the DC. So that's helped. We now have all the boots in there. They're labeled the way we need them. They're working through our processes the way we need them. And then obviously the people are getting better every day. And then one final thing that I'll say, and I think I mentioned it in my notes, We have done, the Boston group has done an exceptional job of changing containers that would come to RDC and they're shipping them direct to customers. And that was a process that they did not have the ability to do within Honeywell for whatever a system constraint, not a big deal, but we are able to do that. And so we are finding ways to divert those containers And that team has done a really great job working with the logistic team to make that happen. Tom, did you have anything to add?
spk08: Yeah, I mean, I think, look, we could spend hours talking about everything about the distribution center, but I think I want to touch a little bit on one of the points Jason made. And so if we think about how Boston Group product was all distributed, it all ran through one distribution center. Every single order in the U.S. ran through one distribution center. And as Jason alluded to, the system, they had system limitations where they couldn't ship containers directly to their customers. And so if you think about, if you take a step back prior to the acquisition and today, the Ohio group business, if we have large seasonal orders, we ship those directly from either our own factories or our third-party source factories from the factory to the customer. And so that different order set is really important. really challenging on a distribution center, especially our distribution center, which was set up for replenishments, as Jason touched on. And so the really great news here is that a lot of these bigger order sets that we have with the Boston Group, as of today, we can now process those orders through our system. And there's going to be some lag on this because we have a lot of inventory coming at us. But in a future state, those really large seasonal items will not even go through our distribution centers. They'll go straight from the source factory to the customer. So that'll be a big improvement. And we actually think that the Boston Group product, the nature of the Boston Group orders is more suitable for that direct fulfillment method. And so we're excited to see how much pressure that can alleviate off the warehouse as we move into 2022.
spk03: Thank you for that detail. That's really helpful. Is it helpful to maybe quantify maybe on a week's basis how much these delays created on a week's basis of inventory and where you're at today with that? I think you answered in a prior question that you prioritize shipping out a lot of seasonal goods, so it doesn't sound like you're overly concerned with – with kind of missing a particular part of the season right now with the inventory that you have. So is it feasible to expect that you'll recoup a bulk of this quarter and into next? Or how do we think about, you know, that chunk of deliveries that, you know, were expected and ordered but weren't fulfilled?
spk07: Yeah. So, you know, I think as we said earlier, we've not really seen –
spk08: significant cancellations. There have been some. Again, we prioritized the seasonal product that we could. We're continuing to try to prioritize, you know, product that's due to retail for Black Friday. And so we're focused on that. And I think if you just look at the overall marketplace, it's kind of an out-of-stock economy, right? And so we know that a lot of our partners and our peers, while they're having different supply chain issues than us, There's not a whole lot of substitutes, and so we know there's demand. The demand is not the issue for the product. For us, the demand is just getting it out of the distribution center. I think it's important to call out that I think we've kind of proven that our supply chain can be quicker and more efficient than some of our peers. given our vertical integration and our near-shore sourcing with the Caribbean, with the Dominican, and Puerto Rico. And so I think that we've kind of proven we had the inventory and we had the demand. We just didn't get out the door fast enough. And so that's where the focus is now is getting it out the door. We don't think we're going to catch up on all the missed sales in the fourth quarter. simply because demand is continuing to outpace the ability to distribute the product. And so that's why we gave some clear guidance for the fourth quarter. Inevitably, there will be carryover into Q1, but we're closely monitoring any cancellations for Q1. But again, we've not really seen any significant cancellations that's got us concerned.
spk04: Yeah, I think just to add to Tom's, right, in Tom's notes, he said, you know, Q4 was like 155 to 165 million. And we feel pretty good about that. So picking up what was missed in Q3 is really not going to happen 100% in Q4 and is really probably going to roll into Q1 of next year. And to your question, the The big question is, is anybody going to start canceling those pairs as we move forward? And we'll have to wait and see how that goes. But we feel pretty good about Q4. And again, we've been able to accomplish over the last month in October of shipping out of the D.C. Again, it's not perfect yet. We still have a ways to go to make it as good as it was before the acquisition, but we're making progress.
spk03: Thank you for that color. As you kind of look at your list of integration tasks that remain, and I think you addressed this a little bit, but I want to dig into this in greater detail. Now that you've had the two groups in Ohio and with the DCs now trying to digest the incremental volume that's come on board, Are there any other major integration issues that you now have better visibility or line of sight into that we should be aware of? Or was this the biggest kind of picking a Python moment to try and digest this initial burst of inventory receipts that now you're getting better, you're getting more efficient, you're getting smarter, there's more people that have been hired, that a lot of these issues at least are known And, and, and on the bed.
spk04: Yeah, I would tell you that we believe this is the biggest issue and, and, and I don't even like to call it an issue because we were good at this. Like we, we were good. We were efficient. We shipped shoes. Well, if you recall, you know, our DC is Amazon prime. We've got shoes in and out of that DC really well. Um, and so it's really frustrating to be here. Um, but I know these issues and we have dealt through them and now we've just got to take the time to solve them. But from the rest of the integration, the ERP, you know, getting customers over, getting orders over, getting credit apps, getting, you know, all the other kind of monotonous stuff that I'm sure The team that's doing that would be angry with me right now about how I'm maybe pushing it off, but they've done an amazing job of working through that. Our IT department has been working just crazy to get this done and get us off of their system. Our customer service department, there was a customer service department division that came with the organization out of Mexico. They've been amazing. We've really done a pretty good job. It's this D.C. thing that I hate to say it surprised me because I don't like to be surprised, but we were good at this and we'll get good at it again.
spk08: Yeah, I think said another way, today we've executed almost our entire plan with the exception of the distribution of the product, which is something that we really prided ourselves on prior to this acquisition. And we know, and it can be seen in the results leading up to the acquisition, for the few years leading up to the acquisition, that we know we have the ability to do this. We just had to reset in a quarter, and we've got to get some more capacity with another distribution center to get it all out the door and in a timely and efficient manner. So we don't think this will be an issue that lingers for a very long time.
spk03: Great. Last question for me is, did you have any incremental costs, payments to Honeywell during the quarter? So what was that, and are you complete with those shared services costs?
spk08: Yeah, so I think I know what you're speaking to. So yeah, so we had TSA or transition services agreements with Honeywell. We are out of the vast, vast majority of those. The distribution was the largest one, which we got out of in the middle of August. And as Jason said earlier in the call, we'll be completely out of by the end of the year. So there were certainly some significant duplicative cost in the third quarter. But if we look at the operating expenses, I mean, you had those duplicative costs, but we also were inefficient at the distribution center. We're still not as efficient as we think we should be. You know, we had to, you know, with the labor constraints, we had to go after more expensive temp labor and things such as that. And not to mention with the top-line sales, we didn't really leverage our operating expenses. But, you know, we've got most of the duplicative cost out of the way as we go into the fourth quarter. Again, we need to be more efficient from a distribution standpoint. But, yeah, most of those costs are behind us.
spk03: Got it. Thank you, gentlemen, and good luck with the balance of the year.
spk04: Yep, thank you. Great, thank you.
spk05: Thank you. Our last question comes from Jonathan Komp with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Yeah, hi. Thanks, everyone. A couple of follow-ups. First, just when you look at the third quarter, is there an easy way to just boil down the revenue and the overall profit or margin impact from the disruptions?
spk07: Yeah, there's not an easy way.
spk08: I mean, I think... you know, said another way. I mean, I think that we, you know, obviously, you know, the top line is from the consensus. And so, again, we were not quite as efficient as we would have liked to have been. But that being said, you know, I don't think we would have been terribly off. The other thing we haven't spoken about that probably negatively impacted the margins a little bit was We spoke that the distribution center issues that we had disproportionately impacted the Boston Group brand, particularly the Muck brand. The Muck brand has a strong margin, and the product that we got out was more of our value product, which carries a lower margin during this move and transition. So that negatively, that was a challenge for a headwind on our margins in the third quarter as well. Jason, I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to add there.
spk04: No, you got it.
spk01: Okay, and then a follow-up on the comment of October and the PEARS. I think it was PEARS processed were double the level processed in August. Could you just maybe comment October, the amount you processed or shipped relative to where it needs to be in an ideal state? and when you expect that you should be able to get to where you need to be.
spk08: Yeah, yeah. I would say if we had – if we were hitting where we wanted to be, we would have done about 10% more than what we did in October.
spk04: But I just want to add, like, if you look at it by week, which we are looking at it by week. Yeah, we're looking at it by day, but we really – So it's gotten better, Jonathan. Like, if you look at even the last weekend, September, we got better in the first week in October, and we've gotten better in the second week and the third and fourth. So, you know, if you look at the whole month, that, like Tom said, maybe we would have, like, seen about 10% more. But it's getting better every week.
spk08: And, Jonathan, to that point, too, as we continue to integrate them into our systems, we have more flexibility today than we did in the third quarter with shuffling orders around and leveraging our supply chain partners to divert containers or to even break down containers up and ship them out. So we are working very diligently to find other solutions to get the product to our retail partners.
spk01: Okay, that's really helpful. And then, Just a follow-up on the full-year comment around revenue, which is helpful. Tom, you didn't mention margin or earnings. Is there any way to comment on what we should expect? And specifically, I'm wondering if you still think you can have a double-digit operating margin for this year or any additional color there?
spk07: Yeah.
spk08: So, you know, as it relates to margins, you know, we had previously guided to I would say we're continuing to experience some of the supply chain costs with freight and things like that, and also some labor constraints and incentives in our U.S. manufacturing facilities. And so we are probably bringing that down a little bit, probably closer to the 38% range for the full year, down from the 39%. As it relates to operating income, you know, I think we're not going to give any further guidance on this. You know, I think there's still a lot of moving parts with the efficiencies. While we've doubled the capacity at our distribution center, we're still not doing it nearly as efficiently as we would like. And so, we're not going to give any further guidance on operating income.
spk01: Yeah, makes sense. Last one for me, just as you think about the Boston group into next year. I don't know what the right baseline is. Do you sort of, you know, assume you recapture anything you lost this year and then I know at one point you expected to grow 2021 by 20% for that group. So just any context on, since it's such a big variable as we think about, you know, modeling for next year, how we should actually think about the Boston group opportunity.
spk04: It's a great question, Jonathan. And, you know, we are obviously, I don't know if it's obvious, but I assume everybody's in the middle of budget season. And this is a really big question that we are trying to weed through as well. You know, the question is, have we disrupted any dealers to where they may buy less from us next year? We still think and know the brands are strong, and so we believe that we're going to fall into Q1 and not struggle, but it's not going to be perfect yet from a D.C. standpoint. 20% is probably a little aggressive next year, but we still think there's great opportunity here, and we're trying to navigate that question as well.
spk08: as we as we go into to next year yeah i think as we think about this we know that there's a ton of demand for the brands um and really that kind of spans rocky georgia durango mock and extra tops and so you know we've got some visibility into you know into bookings for 2022 we're seeing significant increases in our bookings um we think there's a couple things driving that if we think one we might you know see some of the retailers um you know taking with the supply chain issues taking a more aggressive outlook and making sure they get their orders in in time, but also we think that this speaks volumes to the demand we're seeing for our brands. And so as we think about our ability to execute from a distribution standpoint, again, we think we'll continue to make progress throughout the fourth quarter and in Q1, and then hopefully as we get into Q2, Q3, and very importantly Q3 and Q4 of next year, we'll be able to we'll be able to handle the seasonality and the influx in the business that we see. Again, and more importantly, as we integrate all the orders for next year into our system, we'll have a lot more flexibility and we'll probably do a significantly greater amount of direct fulfillment orders. But the demand is there, and we've proven that we can get the inventory to us, you know, so the key here is just getting it out the door in time and and i think that this you know the the the whole environment right now with the entire you know with everybody struggling to get inventory um i think we're not standing out quite as you know horrendously as we probably feel internally about this because you know everybody's out of stock on inventory um right now so We don't believe we're going to lose a lot of shell space just given this whole global supply chain crisis and how it's impacting everybody in our industry.
spk01: Understood. I appreciate all of the color and best of luck with the continued progress here.
spk04: Thanks, Jonathan.
spk05: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jason Brooks for any closing comments.
spk04: Yeah, thank you very much. I'd just like to thank all of the Rocky Brand employees during this time and this year. The progress that we have made has been exceptional. The passion that the employees have all around the United States and the world is exceptional, and I appreciate their efforts in this integration. And I also want to thank our customers and consumers for their patience And we'll get these great brands out to you as quick as we can. And thank you all for your time.
spk05: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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