Recruiter.com Group, Inc.

Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call

8/15/2022

spk04: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Recruiter.com's second quarter 2022 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for questions and comments after the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Kieran Smith with PCG Advisory. Kieran, over to you.
spk06: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon. Welcome to Recruiter.com's second quarter earnings conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and all participants are in a listen-only mode. We'll open the call for questions and answers following the presentation. On the call today are Recruiter.com's Chairman and CEO, Evan Song, CFO, Judy Crandall, and President and COO, Miles Jennings. The company would like to remind everyone that various remarks about future expectations, plans, and prospects made on today's call constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Recruiter.com cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and may cause its actual results to differ materially from those indicated, including risks described in the company's violence with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements made on this conference call speak only as of today's date, Monday, August 15, 2022. Recruiter.com does not intend to update any of these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that occur after today. A replay of today's conference call will be available through the Investor Relations section of Recruiter.com's website at investors.recruiter.com. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Recruiter.com's Chairman and CEO, Evan Sohn, for opening comments. Please go ahead, Abby.
spk00: Thank you, Kieran, and welcome everyone to the call today. I will start the call today with a few high-level comments and then hand it off to Judy to review the financials. Miles will then go into some more details on our core business operations and client composition. After that, we will open it up to questions from the audience. For those new to the company, a brief overview of our company. Recruiter.com is reinventing the $120 billion talent acquisition industry with two key offerings, on-demand recruiting services, matching independent recruiters across all industry sectors and experience levels with customer needs and our software platform, artificial intelligence software to proactively engage passive candidates and career communities to attract active candidates. The old way, of either paying a headhunter 30% of the yearly salary or just finding the talent yourself has forever been changed. Paying a headhunter fee of 30% made sense when the employee was planning to stay with the company for five years, but does not work so well when people stay at jobs for just six to 18 months. Finding your own talent made sense when you're hiring one person every few months, but can you handle the workload of having to hire every four to five weeks? This is the new space that we're inventing. a combination of on-demand software and services to meet the demand of the new job economy. I am very pleased with our performance this past quarter as we continue to execute against our 2022 objectives and plans and set ourselves up to scale our business in 2023 and beyond. In the second quarter, we delivered 62% year-over-year revenue growth and sequential quarterly growth of 3.5%. Gap revenue was $7.11 million, which does not include about $323,000 in new deferred revenue. We have prioritized the most scalable and greatest potential components of our business, which we consider software and on-demand services. We're very pleased that our strategy to transition the company to higher margin products is unfolding as planned. We saw our software platform grow year over year by 393%, and grow sequentially quarter-over-quarter by 14%. Our on-demand services business grew year-over-year by 160% and grew quarter-over-quarter by 11%. We achieved that growth more efficiently than in any other quarter with adjusted gross margins of 41.2%. This margin improvement validates our plans to scale our most efficient product lines only as we shift technology-enabled solutions that require fewer operating resources. We more than doubled our gross margins year over year, driven by increases in our recruiters on-demand segment of our recruiting software product, which now collectively represents more than 80% of our business. We also achieved a 70% quarter-over-quarter improvement in adjusted EBITDA by controlling costs and improving margins. We should note that we began capitalizing our product development in Q2, but even accounting for this, we had an 11% sequential improvement in adjusted EBITDA. In line with our plans we discussed on the prior earnings call, we are projecting to cross the break-even mark and achieve positive adjusted monthly EBITDA this year. Again, I am very pleased with our performance this past quarter as we continue to execute against our 2022 objectives and plans. I cannot be prouder of the entire Recruiter.com team, which continues to push every aspect of our business forward. Judy will now go through the numbers, and then Miles will go into some more specifics around how we are seeing the business develop. Judy, please go ahead.
spk05: Thanks, Devin. GAAP revenue for the second quarter of 2022 totaled $7.11 million, excluding over $322,000 in new second quarter deferred revenue, a 62% increase compared to $4.38 million in revenue in the second quarter of 2021. This growth was primarily driven by the company achieving solid product market fit across multiple products and services, and strong demand from our clients. Gross profit for the second quarter of 2022 was $2.9 million, an approximate 104% increase compared to $1.4 million in gross profit in the comparable period of 2021. The gross profit margin expanded to 41.2% compared to 32.8% a year ago. We achieved this gross margin expansion by prioritizing our higher margin scalable and technology-focused products and services. Total operating expenses were $5.3 million compared to $2.8 million for the second quarter of 2021, an increase of 89%. The increase was primarily due to higher sales and marketing, product development, and general and administrative expenses as well as higher amortization of intangibles of 900,000 compared to 159,000 in the year-ago period. We reduced our operating expenses from the first quarter to the second quarter by 22%. Recruiter.com had a net loss of $1.19 million in the second quarter of 2022 compared to a net income of $3.5 million during the corresponding three-month period in 2021. The net loss in the second quarter of 2022 includes non-cash items of depreciation and amortization expense of $917,000, a bad debt reserve of $364,000, and an equity-based compensation expense of $669,000. This is an 11% improvement over the previous quarter. In Q2, as Evan mentioned, we began to capitalize our product development in accordance with GAAP policies, and we plan to continue this as a best practice going forward. During the second quarter, we invested and capitalized over $750,000 of our product development. Overall, we incurred an adjusted EBITDA loss of about $398,000 for the quarter, which is a 70% improvement over the first quarter. Turning to our cash management and cash plan. On June 30, 2022, Recruiter.com had $1.7 million in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities, and accounts receivable net of allowance for doubtful accounts of $4.2 million. As we announced last quarter, we are leveraging a $3 million factoring facility with Bayview Funding, a subsidiary of Heritage Bank. Our second quarter cash burn saw an 11% improvement from the first quarter. We do have an additional operational goal to improve cash collections and reduce day sales outstanding from 79 to 50 days by year end. There were approximately $14.9 million common shares outstanding at quarter end, and management and insiders own approximately 17% of these outstanding shares. With that, I will turn it over to Miles to discuss the business operations. Miles?
spk01: Thank you, Judy. We had another strong quarter, and I'm pleased with the results of our operations. I'm really proud that we've grown two new product segments to account for the majority of our revenue. Our on-demand recruiting services introduced in 2020 and our software platform just introduced last year in 21 now already account for over 80% of our overall revenue. These two business segments saw strong sequential quarterly growth as well, with 14% for our software platform and 11% growth for our on-demand services. I'm also very pleased that we improved our adjusted EBITDA loss by approximately 70% sequentially from Q1. Our improved EBITDA speaks to our ability to control the levers of our business and manage the changing business environments. This improvement is directly a result of our continued shift to higher quality and higher margin products that require fewer people and take advantage of our software investments. We've also seen cost synergies emanating from the multiple acquisitions that we made in 2021 as we have worked to fully integrate the teams and technologies into one cohesive solution offering for our employer clients. Taking a look at our sales for the quarter, we saw that both our small self-service clients increased their spend with us by 20%, as well as our enterprise clients who increased their spend with us by about 30%. These increases speak to the success of our recruiting solutions across a variety of clients. Our sales and client success teams continue to identify additional opportunities and white space with our new and existing clients as finding and hiring talent continues to be a challenge across the board. we offer flexible solutions that scale to meet a broad variety of client needs. For example, though we have over 400 businesses self-serving on our platform and spending about $500 per month on average, we now also have five marquee clients spending in excess of $160,000 monthly across multiple advanced recruiting solutions. You can see that we now offer value for small business and startups through to the largest enterprise customers. We continue to service a great variety of industries and sectors with key verticals in technology, healthcare, and finance. I'll now turn it back over to Evan.
spk00: Thank you, Miles. I often refer to Recruiter.com as a tech startup inside of a NASDAQ company. We are on a three-year mission. Last year, our goal was to align our products to best fit the needs of potential customers. We demonstrated our ability to meet our customers' needs. We scaled our revenue, acquired businesses, invested in product development, and created a reputable sales process. We started in 2021 with the objective of reaching $20 million in revenue, uplifting to NASDAQ, and having a path towards profitability. In 2022, our objective is very clear, and we know this is extremely important to our investors. This clear goal is to manage our growth towards achieving monthly positive EBITDA. I am pleased to report that we are on track to achieve this objective as we reduced our operating loss by 43% from Q1 through improved margins, realizing operating efficiencies, and reducing certain cash and non-cash expenses. A little bit about how we as a team internally view our company. As I said before, we view ourselves as a tech startup on NASDAQ. As you see in the chart on the left, our higher margin software platform revenue has grown nearly 400% since the second quarter of 21. We have chosen to continue to invest in our intellectual property to ensure our ability to efficiently scale our revenue. As reported earlier, we are now capitalizing our new product development, choosing to amortize our investment over three years. The result is an adjusted EBITDA loss in Q2 of approximately $398,000. We view the expenses associated with being a public company a bit separately from our underlining operating results. Being public does have its benefits, such as being able to leverage the public market. However, it does come with its financial burdens. We have internally estimated our monthly average expenses associated with being a public company to be about $118,000 per month. This includes expenses like audit, legal, investor relations, director and officer insurance, and other similar charges. As you can see in the chart on the right, our gross profit is steadily climbing to meet our operating expenses. We have separated out public company expenses to simply demonstrate how we view our core operating results. It's clear that our next milestone to achieve is to cover and exceed our public company expenses by continuing to grow our sales and improve our gross margin. It's exciting for me to see a startup company achieve this milestone slightly over a year after we uplisted to NASDAQ. Again, I would like to express my gratitude to the entire Recruiter.com team for their efforts. My role as CEO began in June of 2020 at the height of the pandemic. We knew then that the pandemic would forever change the face of the job market. Let's take a look at the trends affecting our business and how we are responding to them. As we predicted in December, the work from anywhere phenomenon is morphing into hire from anywhere as companies shift their hiring efforts to include a globally dispersed workforce. Approximately 10% of our current sales pipeline consists of opportunities that involve international on-demand recruiting. These opportunities include working with foreign companies seeking to find talent outside their country, as well as U.S. companies seeking to hire outside the U.S. We're seeing a resilient economic environment with certain pockets of strong demand. Healthcare continues to have a particularly strong hiring demand, and we have recently signed a couple of new healthcare clients. Combined with a new marquee client that we announced last earnings call, healthcare now represents 19% of our revenue. Our healthcare pipeline is also solid as we see nearly 2X in our current book of business and potential new opportunities. We are seeing enterprises focus their spend on proving tactics with good return on investment. As Miles reported earlier, our small and enterprise clients spent more of us in Q2, demonstrating both the strength of our solutions and the sheer amount of white space available at these clients. Our clients have ongoing hiring challenges, and we are capturing a greater portion of their total spend. Regarding the macro environment, earlier this year, we prioritized focusing on achieving positive monthly EBITDA in 2022. We reduced our monthly operating expenses over 20% since the first quarter while increasing our gross profit. Thus, doing more with less was already our mandate for 2022. As reported in the monthly jobs report, High demand has remained strong, and there is still a healthy job market for the specialized talent that we specialize in. As reported last quarter, we remain focused on growth, but balanced with our plan to achieve positive monthly EBITDA this year. The pandemic has forever changed the world of talent. The old ways of paying ahead under 30% of a salary or finding the talent yourself are just not adequate for today's business climate. The job-hopper economy, where employees are comfortable switching jobs faster than ever, has created great opportunities for us. Recruiter.com is reinventing how companies find talent in the post-pandemic world. We are keenly managing our growth with a clear focus on profitability. Both are key to winning. We remain comfortable in our guidance for 2022, including achieving $30 million in top-line revenue And given our improved margins and operating expenses, we still expect to cross the breakeven mark for positive adjusted EBITDA before the end of the year. I'd like to end by iterating how truly pleased we are with our performance this year, again, for our 2022 goals and objectives. We capitalized on the acquisitions we made in 2021, drove them to further efficiency, I continue to increase to invest in the growth areas of our business, primarily in our software platform. Since June of 2020, we have consistently increased our gross margins by shifting our business from high-revenue and low-margin staffing to high-revenue and higher-margin software and on-demand services. We are committed in 2022 to achieving $30 million in top-line revenue and positive monthly adjusted EBITDA. On our way, we are committed to delivering best-in-class levels of both growth and profitability. We are convinced that the future of talent acquisition is integrating software and on-demand services. This integrated experience is what customers want and what businesses will need to succeed going forward in the fight for global talent. Thank you again for your time today and interest in Recruiter.com. Now let's open it up to any questions. Operator, please poll for questions.
spk04: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. If you wish to submit a question via the phone lines, please press star 1 on your telephone handset. If you are wanting to ask a question via the webcast, please type your question in the chat box and hit submit. Please wait while we poll for questions. Thank you. Your first question is coming from Morgan Frank from Manchester Management. Morgan, please ask your question.
spk09: Hey, Evan. Good afternoon. Congrats on a good quarter. So I was looking at your chart of customers, and obviously the funnel is, as one might expect, somewhat small company heavy. How does that progress? How do you bring those along? I guess I'm sort of interested in what the cultivation strategy is to make small customers into medium customers.
spk00: Yeah, thanks, Morgan, and thanks for the question. And more importantly, thanks for noticing the improvements in their spend. You know, while the bulk of our revenue is derived from the medium to large companies, we really have this growing segment of self-service clients. So these are clients include, they actually include a number of Fortune 500 companies that are self-serving on our career communities, very much the same way that they would post a job on ZipRecruiter or on LinkedIn. So our next step really is to market our other services like our recruiters on demand and our AI software to these self-service clients. There's a lot of white space available at our clients and we're allocating resources to really attaching more services especially to their self-service clients. And we think there's a big opportunity for us or certainly a larger opportunity for us to take these smaller clients and move them down the funnel by attaching more services as we market to them.
spk09: I mean, have you found a particular way to engage that makes that work? Like what's the hook? How do you drive this?
spk00: So we started by doing some things around diversity. We have a diversity upgrade. If you actually go to one of our career communities, such as Media Bistro, you could see not only can you post a job, but you can actually purchase recruiters on demand. You could purchase Amplify, which is our software product specific to the career communities. You could purchase a diversity upgrade. we're getting better at figuring out what is it going to be, how we unlock those small clients, because we think that there's a lot of white space available for those clients.
spk10: Got it. Does that answer your question, Morgan? Yeah, it does. Thanks.
spk04: Thank you very much. Your next question is coming from Lisa Thompson, Zacks Investment Research. Lisa, please ask your question.
spk02: Hi, everyone. Hi. I have a few questions that are kind of small and then a big picture question. So first off, do you feel that you've reduced expenses as much as they're going to be reduced or do they grow from here?
spk00: All right. Why don't you ask all your questions and then we'll double back on them. How's that?
spk02: Okay.
spk00: We have a question on operating expenses. Continue.
spk02: Right. And Marketplace is doing particularly well. I was wondering what was going on there that was so successful. And staffing was lower than I expected, and I wondered what to think about that going forward. And then my big picture question is, we keep reading about hiring freezes and layoffs and the economy getting crazy quickly. I wondered if you could address that and give us comfort that it's your business model that's driving sales and not the economy as a whole.
spk00: Sure, sure. Excellent. And thanks again, Lisa, for your continued support. So let's actually answer the first three together. We really chose to deprioritize our legacy revenue, which you would call the staffing revenue. The staffing revenue, and we chose, we made this choice, we talked about in the call, to really deprioritize it. So while it was high in revenue, it ran very low gross margin. It was also pretty burdensome from an operating expense perspective. And so by deprioritizing it, we obviously saw a greater decrease in those revenues. I think it went down by roughly 30% from Q1 to Q2. But more importantly, we got the higher revenue or higher margin business, the higher gross profit business, to now be in excess of 80% of the company. I think last year when we were talking about software, we wanted the staffing revenue to be around 25%, and now it's even less than that, which is just really a big accomplishment for us overall. We've been able to reduce our operating expenses really through the improvement of our business, of our software. We're now using our software to help with the delivery of our recruiters on demand services. So we're delivering, you know, our goal really is to deliver a qualified recruiter to 80% of our clients within 48 hours. And we're using our software as part of that overall process. So the better improvements we're seeing in our software, the more throughput we're getting on the rest of our business. And that's really what we prioritize. At the beginning of the year, we really prioritize listening to our investors and shareholders and really prioritizing positive adjusted EBITDA over growth and or sort of doing that in a more balanced perspective. And we've really been able to take our operating expenses down. We also acquired five companies in 2021 and really used the beginning of the year to not just start investing in our overall software, but really investing in consolidating some of the back office systems. Again, that really led to a lot of the operational efficiency that we're overall seeing. So I think those answered like the first three questions, kind of all in the first two. Marketable career communities, we've actually rolled out more career communities. We actually just had one. We have someone that just started to focus on our recruiter career community. And we're seeing that grow. You know, part of our strategy with career communities was really our philosophy or theory that as more and more people were going to move companies faster than ever before, they'd be looking to niche career communities to be part of. So it's not like I'm going to go get a financial analyst job, but hey, I want to be in a specific industry. I want to be in the media industry. I want to be in an ad tech industry. Therefore, career communities are really what we believe. And Reid Hoffman from LinkedIn was talking about it probably about four or five months ago. as really being the next level of job board. You know, you don't just go to a flea market where they have everything. You can go to something specialized. You'll go to an auto show to find cars or a comic book flea market to find comic books as opposed to a big potpourri. And that's really why we're seeing improvement in our marketplace. The other is that's really becoming our self-service portal. so our clients are really self-servicing are really coming from the marketplace side and we expect to see that grow uh over uh certainly into 23 and beyond uh and finally you know the uh thanks for asking about the overall market trends or recession uh whatever related to there um you know and i think that there are many economists who could speak you know more about the economic conditions than we can uh we're we're fortunate that we're part of the conversation As I'm on CNBC monthly discussing the recruiter index, we do a monthly recruiter index where we survey our recruiters, we publish those results, and we deliver those results on CNBC once a month. And we're seeing the desire by many companies to simply make good decisions when it comes to hiring. I think earlier this year it was over hire. We reported that on CNBC. over-hire and deal with the attrition level later. And now it seems to be more tapered hiring with make better hiring choices. I think another very interesting economic trend that we are watching closely and speaking regularly with our clients is that of hiring outside one's own region. We're seeing U.S. companies leverage recruiters in Latin America or foreign companies looking for talent in the U.S. or U.S. companies looking for talent outside the U.S. We reported in this call about 10% of our pipeline being outside of the US. And I would think that that would increase in 2023 as global talent becomes more of a norm. And if you look at our partners such as Oyster and Deal, Oyster we announced at our last earnings call, they're really leaders in this global employment platform space. And they're pioneering this charge of global talent acquisition. And we're really just excited to ride on their investments in these areas as their partners in finding global talent. So I know it was a little bit of a long-winded question, long-winded answer, but yet you did ask four questions, Lisa, so at least I could do.
spk02: All right, great. Thank you so much.
spk00: You bet.
spk04: Thank you very much. Your next question is coming from Alan Klee from the Maxim Group. Alan, please ask your question.
spk08: Hi, this is Derek on for Alan. My first question, I guess it kind of relates to the oyster partnership as well as deal and raise. I was just wondering if you could perhaps offer a little more color on how those are progressing or when we should start to recognize new client wins from those or just anything you want to touch on there.
spk00: Yeah. Excellent question. We, we announced oyster last, last quarter. We announced deal, I think probably a quarter earlier we've done a, We have weekly commercial alignment calls with them, working on joint opportunities with them. We have a nice pipeline of opportunities. And when we talk about international expansion, I think that a line share of that expansion is really going to become not just from our marquee enterprise clients in the U.S. that are expanding overseas, but also from companies like Oyster and Veal. that are bringing us opportunities on a regular basis. We're not breaking out our revenue that way, but if you think about how we're generating opportunities, we're really generating opportunities organically through our own traffic as Recruiter.com and other things that we're doing on the SEO side, et cetera, to drive organic traffic. We do it through our sales team who are outbounding every day to interested parties. as well as we just started doing some paid advertising, and the fourth really is through partnerships. So we have good expectations for these partnerships to deliver better results throughout the rest of the year and really being really part of our international expansion.
spk08: Okay, great. Thank you. And then just going back to – I have a couple more, sorry. But going back to the cross-selling you were talking about earlier – and just higher spending from small clients. I was wondering if you had any metrics for the larger enterprise clients as well. I remember last call, I think you mentioned 27% of the top 100 clients used one or more services. I was just wondering if you had any similar metrics to report this quarter.
spk00: Yeah, I think it's the same number. I would have to confirm that. It probably wasn't a meaningful change, otherwise you probably would have dug it up. We're always trying to look for interesting metrics that we can report on as we're evolving the company with you, our shareholders, as a startup on NASDAQ. So it is multiple services. We are still seeing that. I think I'd be remiss if I didn't start to use terms like sourcing as a service. So for some of our larger clients, they're not interested in making investments in very expensive software, and they really like the fact that we're an on-demand service. So from their perspective, they're subscribing to a service that's delivering great results for them. And so as a tech-enabled service, we're really delivering a real total solution for these larger marquee clients. And what our next step is, as I mentioned earlier in the first question, is really turning these more self-service throughout the rest of the year into 23 and really start to capitalize on the white space that's available at the customers that are simply using us for our career communities and really being able to evolve them the way we've evolved our larger enterprises and our enterprise clients into significantly spending more with us. So thanks, Eric. Really appreciate your question.
spk08: And then I just have two last ones. They're both financial related. I'll make them quick. But I noticed on the balance sheet, contingent consideration is gone. I was wondering if that was paid out and realized. And if so, if you could just remind us what the metrics were there that were being targeted. And then alongside that, I saw there was a gain on forgiveness of debt of $1.2 million. I was wondering just what that was related to. Thanks.
spk00: Excellent. Judy, Miles, do you want to cover those?
spk01: Yeah, I can cover the gain that was from a consideration on the note for the Novo Group acquisition. There was a change in an amended contract that we filed in a post-close negotiation.
spk05: Yeah, it was a reduction in the amount of debt that we owed them. It was a non, you know, cash transactional, that'll just mean reduced debt payments going forward. And I apologize, I didn't hear the first question fully.
spk08: There's also like a contingent consideration that existed on the balance sheet before that I see doesn't have a balance now. I was just wondering if like that was paid out and fully realized or if there's... Oh, yeah, that was also through this negotiation that was eliminated. Okay, great.
spk10: Thanks, guys. Thanks, Judy. Thanks, Derek.
spk04: Thanks very much. Your next question is coming from Leo Carpio from Joseph Gunner. Leo, please ask your question.
spk07: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Congratulations on your quarter. Just got a couple of quick questions. I might as well just fire them off and get to answer them. My first question is regarding the market trends. You've talked about how your clients are shifting more to international Can you comment on any particular industry vertical that you're seeing, any weakness, perhaps tech or others, and how you're pivoting and adjusting for that? And then secondly, regarding the debt extinguishment, what impact did that have on your EPS? And then on the capital expense capitalization, does that have like an EPS impact? Those are my questions. Great.
spk00: Why don't we thank you? Thanks, Leo. Why don't I take the market trend question and then Judy, you can handle the financial one. So clearly, there's some areas where you're just not going to be able to shift outside the US, you know, our manufacturing clients, our consumer good clients, our logistic clients, our healthcare clients, for the most part, you really just can't shift that we are seeing some nurses sort of telecommuting or telephonic nursing you could do outside the U.S. But for the most part, health care is really being delivered inside the U.S. So clearly the biggest shift you're really seeing is really, I would say, tech talent and then some financial services we're seeing also being shifted outside the U.S. Now, a lot of this is really related to just the expense side of the talent. As these tech companies were hiring, they were driving wages increased. And so hiring a developer, a software engineer became very expensive. And so, hey, if I can't find it here in the U.S. at a price point, let me go shift it outside the U.S. And I think that still is a pretty significant trend that we're seeing. The tech talent, you know, when you think about a large tech company or a tech company that was, you know, a highfalutin tech company that did a layoff, the most part their layoff was really a result of the over hiring uh that they had or the expected growth that they were going to have so you're really looking at account managers clients client specialists you know the 18th financial analyst that they hired and less so on their core software engineering team although there are obviously exceptions there so i think that that's really a market trend that we're seeing what we expect to have happen is what we expect sometime in 23 and certainly supported by these oyster deals and other companies that are these global employment platform companies is that this, gee, I really want to set up a development team of my own in Argentina, right? So what stopped you from doing that before was I couldn't find the talent. And if I found the talent, I didn't know how to pay them. So a partnership with like a deal and an oyster with recruited.com really delivers those results. I can both find the people, hire the people, and pay the people. Now, in between there, you've seen this big growth in what we would call outsourced IT services. I can go get developers over in Africa or in Latin America. I can get developers in Canada. I can get developers in Albania, Eastern Europe, wherever I want. There are companies now that are doing this outsourced development. They're meeting this immediate need of, I can't find talent. I think the next step is really more on the return on investment side and companies sort of saying, I want to build my own team outside the U.S. So that's probably, I think, what we're seeing in terms of the biggest trend. I'll tell you what's fascinating is if you look at the numbers, you'd expect, gee, I could hire anywhere. It must be increasing the overall unemployment because if I could hire people outside the U.S., that would affect the overall U.S. numbers. You're not really seeing that. So you're seeing a talent shortage, certainly in knowledge workers, And yet you're seeing the growth in terms of hiring outside the U.S. So really is the number of people in the overall labor market that's decreased. I think obviously the other segment that we're really seeing growth is logistics and truck drivers, logistics, obviously hospitality. You know, that's going to be very difficult. You're not really going to outsource that outside the U.S. So I would break up those roles in terms of in-person roles. I think as more companies are thinking about hybrid, that's a way of saying, gee, we don't really want to shift workforce outside the U.S., but for every one of those, there are companies like Shopify that have gone completely virtual in terms of an overall company. Okay, and now I think you had a bunch of financial questions or two financial questions. Judy, do you want to answer those?
spk05: Just to address, yeah, thanks, Evan. Just to address, I can't specifically state each item, the impact on earnings per share, but you can see approximately... The gain on the debt extinguishment would have doubled our net loss if it wasn't included. And sort of you can, you know, round figures think what that would do to EPS. Again, you know, non-cash issue. All right. Thank you. I'll give you a little more detail with our controller, you know, step-by-step if you'd like. Offline.
spk10: Okay. We'll follow up offline. Thank you again. Thank you. Thanks, Leo.
spk04: Thank you very much. Your next question is coming from Paul Tooney from Joseph Gooder. Paul, over to you.
spk10: Hey, guys. How you doing? Congratulations on a great quarter again. Thank you, Paul. All right.
spk11: Just very briefly, you know, just looking at last quarter compared to this quarter, you know, one of the refreshing things was to see, like, the net cash actually go up quarter over quarter. And I don't know if I'm reading this right, but it looks like most of your loss was non-cash expenses.
spk10: Are you guys actually throwing off cash right now?
spk05: We are not throwing off cash at this point. You could look at our adjusted EBITDA loss, which will be a better indication. And do keep in mind that that is after cash. We did capitalize some software development costs. But it's moving in the right direction. And as we've all stated from management, that is our complete focus, that by the end of this year we'll be at a monthly positive adjusted EBITDA run rate in the business. So we're moving in the right direction.
spk11: So how do you explain the $900,000 in cash last quarter and $1.7 million in cash?
spk05: But, you know, cash at any one point in time is a function of collections, of course, and a function – so, you know, we've been working very hard at cash collections. As you see, we have a fairly large accounts receivable balance given the size of our business, and we've put great effort. And as we said in the call, we expect to improve timing of cash collections. We've also leveraged an accounts receivable line from Bayview Financing, and we did – monetize some of our receivables up front. So that benefited us as well.
spk11: Okay, got it. Okay, thank you.
spk05: Thank you. Thanks, Paul.
spk04: Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have any final questions, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad at this time. Okay, we appear to have no further questions in the queue. I will now hand back over to management for any closing remarks.
spk00: Thank you, operator. So in closing, CEOs and talent acquisition teams are being pushed to do more with less. They still need to hire both to keep up with the increased quit rates, sorry about that, and to fuel their growth. The ideal way to achieve that goal is to get more out of every dollar by leveraging on-demand solutions. Our mission at Recruit.com has been to help companies large and small do just that. I want to thank you all for joining us on our second quarter earnings call and have a great day.
spk04: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.
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