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spk01: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Research Frontiers investor conference call to discuss the fourth quarter and year end 2021 results of operations and recent developments. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. And following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions by pressing star one. This conference is being recorded today. A replay of this conference will be available starting later today in the investor section of Research Frontier's website at www.smartglass.com and will be available for replay for the next 90 days. Please note that some of the comments made today may contain forward-looking information. The words expect, anticipate, plans, forecast, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Statements that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements that are pursuant to the safe harbor provisions that are part of the Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements reflect the company's current beliefs, and a number of important factors could cause actual results for future periods to differ materially from those expressed. Significant factors that could cause results to differ from those anticipated are described in our filings with the SEC. Research Frontiers undertakes no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements to reflect new events or uncertainties. The company will be answering many of the questions that were emailed to it prior to this conference call, either in their presentation or as a part of the Q&A session at the end. In some cases, the company has responded directly to email questions prior to this call or will do so afterwards in order to answer more questions of general interest to shareholders on this call. If you find that your question has been substantially answered as a courtesy and to allow time for other shareholders to ask their questions, please remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Also, we ask that you keep your questions brief in the interest of time. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joel Harari, President and Chief Executive Officer of Research Frontiers. Please go ahead, sir.
spk03: Thank you, Paul. And hello, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end 2021 investor conference call. I also want to welcome our board of directors, Daryl Bagel, Alex Gavranovic, and Graham Settle, who are joining us today as well. Let's review the past year together and look forward to this year and some exciting developments that we expect to happen in the next nine months. This year, we showed our lowest loss in 27 years. For the third quarter, we even earned a profit. something no other smart window company has ever done. The company's C income from licensing activities increased by $434,584 or 52% for 2021. Total annual expenses decreased by 304,000 or approximately 9% in 2021. 2021 was the seventh consecutive year that expenses were lower than the year before at Research Frontiers. The company's net loss decreased by $494,512 to six cents per common share. The net loss for 2021 was Research Frontier's lowest net loss in 27 years. We're also in strong financial condition. We continue to have no debt. And as of December 31st, 2021, we had liquid assets of about $3 million and working capital of approximately $3.7 million. The company expects to have sufficient working capital for at least the next 22 months of operations. And as you'll hear later, this will probably last longer because we expect increased revenues from automotive in the second half of this year. That 22-month estimate does not factor in these additional revenues. Some of the highlights from this past year include increased revenue from automotive. Also, now that Gauzy is shipping wider SPD film, we saw the beginning of shipments of SPD smart glass for architectural projects. This year, there are also significant new projects in the aircraft industry, including the ACJ-220 program by Airbus, Comlux, and Vistons. Airbus has already announced orders for 15 of these transportation category-sized jets. Each of these A220 aircraft will have SPD electronically dimmable windows covering 50 structural windows. Aircraft manufacturer Epic also started delivering jets to customers with SPD Smart EDWs. And last month, a merger between two of our licensees, Gauzy and Vision Systems, was announced. This was a transaction that had our full support and one that I had personally worked on with Gauzy and Vision Systems for the past two years. it created the largest internationally diversified smart glass technologies manufacturing company in the world. Gauzy raised $60 million in a series of de-financing to acquire and fund the growth of the newly combined company. The combined entity now has over 70 certified industrial partners, five dedicated manufacturing sites, 14 global offices, international subsidiary six continents, and customers in over 50 countries. It also has over 60 patents and 20 unique categories. It has 180 employees globally, plus $50 million in 2021 revenues. So let's discuss now some of the other developments in 2021. Let's start with our largest market. In autumn, we kicked off 2021 with an announcement in January by Cadillac at CES which highlighted a four-quadrant SPD smart glass roof and their flagship all-electric Celestique. Also in automotive, there was a new government contract in the area of specialty automotive. We also had continued and growing use of our SPD smart glass technology in serial production with McLaren, and more upcoming models are also being discussed with them. McLaren has told me that the SPD smart glass roof has very high take rates, and is quite popular with customers. Prestigious publications with millions of readers each have highlighted the range-extending benefits of SPD's smart glass in this, the Celestique, and other electric vehicles with a highly coveted 5.5% increase in driving range. They also noted the significance of grams per kilometer reduction to emissions when SPD's smart glass is used in internal combustion engine vehicles. And these are not the only benefits. We also make people more comfortable and safer and protect the interior of cars. And Bentley noted that SPD's smart glass used in fixed non-movable panoramic roofs in cars, which is the trend, can also reduce weight in the roof by up to 13 pounds and eliminate the need for 54 . This reduces costs and increases driving range and reliability while contributing to the stability of the car on the road. The benefits of SPD Smart Glass were discussed in many prestigious automotive publications, such as Automotive News, Autoline, the Detroit Free Press, Wards, Automotive News, and others. More recently, we've been on the Automotive News daily news program, First Shift, so on the widely followed Daily Drive podcast. And just last week, we had an article here in Wards Automotive. And I invite all of you to check out some of these articles and videos on our website and social media platforms. And with our strategic benefits in the areas of electric vehicle range extension and reducing CO2 emissions in internal combustion engine vehicles, we have certainly gotten the attention of the automotive industry, both car manufacturers and their suppliers. I note that Hyundai and Sekisui and others heavily involved in the automotive industry made substantial investments in our industry through equity investments in our license Gauzy. Now let's talk about other important developments and other key markets for our SPD smart technology. This year, you also saw a giant display manufacturer, LD Display of Syria, combine their transparent OLED display technology with SPD film to make vibrant, high-definition displays and televisions that turn into clear windows at the touch of a button. These were exhibited at the Munich Auto Show, showing use of these products in automotives. and at the January 22 CES in Las Vegas, showing the consumer electronics use of this product. One recent report indicates that LG has moved forward with plans for a new TV with a 55-inch transparent OLED SPD screen that's intended for the home entertainment market and slated for release in 2023. This fall, you also saw BMW introduce in Munich a stunning concept car using SPD Smart Glass to control the look and output of the car's headlights. Other new areas such as more yachts, consumer electronics, and architectural applications have also grown. And in trains, our licensee Gauzy delivered SPD Smart Train Glass to their customer Rehau for the Deutsche Bahn Idea train. Rehau is a large supplier to the train and other industries. with over 20,000 employees. And trains use a lot of glass, and SPD Smart Glass has preserved views on such iconic luxury and sightseeing trains as the Shikishima train in Japan and the Rocky Mountaineer trains in North America. And the Deutsche Bahn train opens up SPD to a much larger new market, commuter and regional transport trains. And since our last conference call together, SPD Smart Glass was shipped to yet another large train project for a series of commuter trains. Now, let me pause and take some other questions that our shareholders have sent me by email.
spk05: Some of them I addressed in our general presentation, but here are the additional questions that were emailed to us.
spk03: From Chuck Michaels, what effects will the Gauzy acquisition of vision systems have on FR, and what are the prospects for SPD Glass used in additional vehicle models before production of the new EV Cadillac. Thanks. Well, thanks, Chuck. We spoke earlier about the substantial advantages that we see in the Gauzy Vision Systems merger, and that is why I've been supporting the efforts of both companies to get this transaction done in two years. They're both great companies to begin with, and together they're even more formidable. Regarding your question about the near-term timing of other automotive revenues, In the GM Authority article in October about the SPD range extension on EVs, it noted that the Cadillac Celestique is on track for launch with the 2024 model year. So this means that the car is actually coming out in calendar year 2023. We expect revenues from automotive from other projects in serial production to come in Q3 2022 for one vehicle in 2022. Q3 2022 for one vehicle and Q4 2022 for another vehicle. These may start generating revenue for us then or perhaps one quarter earlier than start of production, depending on when the OEM wants this glass delivered. So to answer your question, Chuck, there could be several cars in serial production generating revenues for Research Frontiers prior to the Celestique coming out in 2023. John Nelson sent in a series of questions which I touched on in my presentation. Thank you, John, for sending those. I think our shareholders benefited from my including those topics in my presentation. One additional one for Mr. Nelson. How is the response to your products at CES in January? Well, many of you saw the Gauzy post on social media of the chairman of Hyundai Motors spending quite a bit of time with us at CES, along with his chief technology officer, and the Korean Economic Ministry. I actually took the photo they used. We also had politicians and groups from Tesla, Stellantis, and other visitors. CES was a great show, and Vision System, Gauzy, and everyone did a great job presenting RSPD technology there. We actually benefited also from the fact that some of the larger companies had pulled out of CES due to the Omicron virus. And the companies that were there got upgraded to better locations and actually got a lot more attention. And we had people just stopping dead in their tracks when they saw the transparent OLED display that we had on the outer edge of the booth to catch people's attention. It was a compelling video of SPD being used in so many different applications. And also just the fact that you could do this with a transparent OLED really blew people away. Sam Sinter, there's been a lot of talk about Hyundai and Kia lately as numerous articles have popped up mentioning the new grandeur. And I quote below, this is from Sam, a key feature of the all-new grandeur will be the magic roof like Mercedes-Benz instead of a regular curtain. It will be capable of blocking light and heat or becoming transparent depending on what the drivers choose. Sam continues, this article is very specific and in light of the recent investments in Galaxy, one can assume this is SPD. Has Hyundai or Kia made any public announcements identifying the technology as being SPD or comments on how this project is progressing? They reference it as the magic roof, which is very close to Mercedes' magic sky term. Is this the branding for smart glass? Well, Sam, I think you can infer... The strong interest in SPD by multimillion-dollar investments by Hyundai that they made in Galsy and by their chairman and CTO's visit. Also, more specifically, in one of their recent reports about their innovation fair in South Korea, Hyundai actually noted their work with Galsy on this and that it was moving forward towards series production. So I guess the answer to your question is yes, they've confirmed it. One last question that you may be able to address on the call. Dime was working on a SunVisor product using SPD. What, if any, progress on this? I and my brother have described such a product to friends in many professions, including farming, aviation, trucking, and general driving. Seems like lots of demand for this product to be made available. Much, much more than SunRiff. Thanks, John Nelson. Well, thanks for the additional question, John, and Dime is working both with an OEM And this is to fund the development of the original equipment and aftermarket SPD sun visor products. And we're very excited about this product. Speaking personally, when our founder, Bob Sachs, and I would drive home together after a long day in the office, we were heading west and into the glaring sun. The SPD sun visor was an application near and dear to his heart. And every time we'd get hit by the blinding sun, he'd say, Joe, I can't wait for us to have a sun visor. Well, he's getting his wish. And you're right, John. People do look through their windows. both during the day and at night more than their sunroof and they need relief from the glare. So while an SPD smart glass sunroof may be an energy saving and comfort issue, the SPD sun visor is an important safety feature. Another question from Jared Albert, are there examples of intellectual property licensing businesses whose history you think may foreshadow RFI's future? Typically, Jared, as you know from companies like Qualcomm and others, asset and compact flight companies always seem to get higher valuations. And that's because these companies are less risky than others. And I think you'll have to look no further than our competitor view to see the challenges and high capital expenditure requirements and manufacturing costs and substantial other risks and issues that they face. You know, part of this is inherent in their electrochemical technology. But I also personally think that they made a lot of forced errors in their business that have contributed substantially to their current problems. I also want to highlight that because we are a film-based technology, the logistics of manufacturing and supplying SPD smart glass around the world are vastly easier. And the performance and economics of SPD's smart light control technology is actually better. From Jeff Harvey, Joe, the chip shortage is having an impact on car production. Is this slowing the implementation of smart glass? I would guess it has to. My BMW dealer said that some parts come from Ukraine and they anticipate problems ahead for production. Sincerely, Jeff Harvey. Well, Jeff, thank you for that and also recounting the situation. First, let me say that our hearts and support goes out to the Ukrainian people. It's absolutely terrible what's happening to them and their country. And let's all do what we can to support them and pray for peace. To answer your question, Jeff, fortunately, we have not been as affected as other companies in automotive by the pandemic or the part shortages or the supply chain disruptions. Part of this relates to the timing of projects and development cycles, but also we're blessed with better logistics because we're a film-based technology. For example, SPD film can easily bypass clogged ports and be air-shipped wherever the projects are and then laminated locally. Well, we discussed a lot of exciting topics so far, and now I'm going to ask Operator Paul to open up the conference to any additional questions people participating today might have that we haven't already covered.
spk01: If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad now. You'll be placed into the queue in the order received. Please be prepared to ask your question when prompted. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your phone now. And our first question comes from John Strobel.
spk02: Hi, Joe.
spk05: Two questions.
spk02: One about Germany, one about China, two very big countries, two research frontiers. With this invasion of Ukraine, Germany has done a U-turn and about its defense spending and cutting off the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is going to have dramatic effects for Gazi, I suspect. Do you have any feel for this? And maybe Graham Settle might have a thought about it, too.
spk03: Well, Graham certainly has a lot of field experience in many areas of the world. As far as we can tell, So far, there has not been any disruption in Gauzy's business. A lot of the flow is actually coming from chemical production done in Tel Aviv, where the emulsion facility is, and then shipped to Germany for coating. And, you know, of course, anytime you have this kind of turmoil and disruption anywhere in the world, there's going to be, you know, things that are more difficult. But Gauzy is pretty creative in how they deal with unusual situations. Remember, they were able to go through the pandemic when Germany was shut down numerous times and still figured out how to get people in and out to facility up and running and shipping products. So we'll have to see. I think some of the bigger problems are going to be from disruptions to the general automotive industry. I mean, they started with chip shortages and now with what's happening in Ukraine, there's so many other components that they rely on that's affecting things. But I don't think ultimately it's going to affect our revenues and hopefully this will be over in a positive way soon and we can all get back to normal. At least I'm praying for that.
spk02: The second country is China and Xi Jinping has ordered that everybody cut back on luxury goods. Of course, China has been one of our key markets for automobiles with SPD.
spk03: It's the largest auto market in the world. It's hard to say how the Chinese people react to that kind of directive, but in terms of There's really two aspects of China. Number one is it as a consumer, as a market, and obviously it's an important market for luxury goods. Some of the cars that are coming out, though, are more general purpose cars, so I don't think they're going to be affected. I think that based on the production numbers of some of these luxury cars, the rest of the market will pretty much take up the slack. I'm not expecting too much in terms of a disruption from from China in that regard. And we're really unaffected by China as a manufacturer because we've always taken great pains to stay out of China, especially with our intellectual property and our chemistry. And, you know, we've established production in other areas of the world, you know, for a specific reason. And, you know, that's not going to be affected by this either, as far as I could see. It's an excellent question, you know, and we'll find out together.
spk05: Yes, thank you. Good answers on both. Thank you. Our next question comes from Art Brady. Hi, Joe.
spk00: How are you?
spk01: Hey, Art.
spk03: How are you?
spk00: Listen, can you explain a little bit about this division of vision systems regarding safety and and the reason why Gauzy wanted to buy their technology, they call it ADAS.
spk03: Right.
spk00: What is that whole effort?
spk03: The ADs are basically assisted driving technologies, and what the safety tech division is is, you know, camera-based and sensor-based systems that Vision Systems has developed over the years, and not just for autonomous vehicles. You know, they cut their teeth on passenger control systems for trains and buses and things where that kind of technology is also used, but they got quite good at it. And, you know, if you think about – and this is something that I think is maybe important to note, so thank you for the question – You have one company that is a material science company, Gauzy. They were very well known in the PDLC market, the highest quality PDLC out there, and they saw the market for SPD being bigger and became a licensee, and the rest is history. They opened up two factory lines and expanded their emulsion production in Israel and really have made substantial investments in SPD for the future. And they also have a component of their business where they actually started. Before they were a material science company, they were an electronics controller company. And they got involved with PDLC actually because they were asked by a PDLC manufacturer to controllers for them. And they realized the quality of what was being produced in the PDLC market real problem not the controllers so they ended up saying well we could do better and became a pdlc manufacturer so they do have expertise in electronics as well and if you think about spd smart glass or any smart glass as a system you have the solar the intelligence for the controller and the thing that it controls you know the internet of things if you will and Now they have all of these expertise really, really in one place. And along the way, Vision Systems also became a material science company. They've developed certain interlayers that's highly, you know, desirable by our licensees because it has very good IRB protection and, you know, very good laminating capabilities and characteristics. The materials they developed as a laminator of SPD is very complement the film that Gauzy produces. So now they have the ability to supply entire pre-laminated stock, if you will, to the entire industry. And people are, you know, very happy about that. They're rallying around that. And that's why you're seeing a lot of this, especially in automotive that I alluded to earlier, you know, really coming to fruition.
spk00: Where does the SPD fit into this whole technology?
spk03: In the ATIS technology or in general? Both. Okay. In ATIS, it's used for things like covering sensors or protecting them or regulating the light that is going into sensors so they can work more effectively. And also, these sensors act as controllers. So, for example, your camera may tell your window what to do.
spk05: It's a very symbiotic system.
spk00: There is a Dr. Huber, I think from a German research development company called Helles, and he's been writing... about micro lenses. He said he has developed the smallest micro lenses ever, and I'm wondering if SPD plays a part in enhancing the quality of these lenses.
spk03: Well, I think these micro lenses will be part of, you know, if they work as advertised, will be part of the added systems, you know, to make them better. so they could, if you will, see better. So, you know, I think there's certainly a complementary technology that would benefit, you know, making the entire system better. And all these developments really are things we're excited but agnostic about because we work with almost every system out there. We have a very easy-to-work-with technology, so it's very easy for these systems to address our smart glasses.
spk00: How do we benefit from the ADIS systems if they're installed?
spk03: Like I said, it's one of the ways you could control our smart glass. So, you know, we could take this conversation offline just to leave time for other people that might have questions. But basically, think of the ADIS system as a type of intelligent control system that, you know, can benefit And also, you know, one other thing which may not be obvious, the ADIS system is used in autonomous vehicles. Smart glass is expected to be a very integral part of autonomous vehicles, self-driven vehicles, because of things that I've talked about in the past about the interaction between the passengers and their outside world and their devices. So the SPD, in conjunction with an ADIS system, you know, can be quite sophisticated. Thank you.
spk05: Thanks a lot, Art. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your touchstone keypad now.
spk01: And we have a question from Michael K. Your line is open.
spk08: Hello, Joe.
spk03: Hey, Michael. How are you?
spk08: Hey, um, Now that the so-called sweet spot was reached in terms of the price, the declining price of SVD film, and also the fact that Gauzy now could produce it, you know, in much wider sizes, could you indicate what progress has been made in terms of getting SVD in the architectural market, you know, since we had the last conference call?
spk03: Sure. So Gauzy has shipped film that is much wider than Hitachi ever shipped before. And there are some architectural projects that that glass is being used for. You know, one of the things that just to kind of maybe go to the other part of your question about the sweet spot and the costs, you know, one of the things that we designed into their coding facility is the ability to do variable width coding. So for example, for the train project that I mentioned, you know, that series of commuter trains, they had shipped film that was 1.55 meters wide for that. Now, I mention that precise number because in the past you'd have to either take a roll of film that was 1.6 or 1.8 typically and cut it down and lose, you know, 10 or 20 percent through cutting. Now you don't have to do that. You can actually coat the film with for large projects exactly the width that's needed so you eliminate any kind of wastage from cutting and things like that. Actually, I was happy to hear in connection with some of the automotive projects that I had alluded to that part of the thing that Gauzy is focusing on with that in order to bring in the product at a good price for the OEM was the cutting and the and getting the film exactly custom-sized for the customer so they don't have wastage. So, you know, these are the happy problems we focus on now, not whether the technology will work or whether it could be coded wide enough, but instead, you know, how do we make it more effective or better for the customer.
spk08: Do you foresee the price of SBD film further declining so it will be even more attractive to people?
spk03: Yes. In the business plan that I've seen for the facility in Germany, the cost can come down substantially, even more than what they are now. So, you know, I think we're well on our way towards being a very feasible technology for all different types of applications, not just high-end ones.
spk08: But Hitachi still is producing SPD film as well, so we have like two suppliers. Yep, it's always good to
spk03: have multiple suppliers, especially for competition and redundancy, and the automotive industry likes that.
spk08: Are you still trying to get a third one in the United States?
spk03: You once mentioned the geographic... Well, you know, at one point, Gauzy was considering putting their factory, you know, either their second factory, the one that's currently in Germany, in the United States or in Asia. My guess is with the connection with... European and Asian car manufacturers, you might see the next one in Asia first.
spk08: Oh, I see.
spk03: Okay, thank you. But it's not a big deal because we have projects here in the United States, some government projects that, you know, they were able to, you know, send by air shipment, DHL, the film. So it doesn't really matter where you are in the world, and that's one of the advantages of our film-based technologies. You can do that.
spk08: Thank you, Joe.
spk05: Thanks a lot. Our next question comes from Alan Yakuboff.
spk01: Your line is open.
spk03: Thank you. Hi, Joe. How are you? Hey, Alan. How are you? I'm well. I'm well. Is it possible that you could provide any revenue projections for this year and next since a lot of things seem to be coming together? No, I don't mean to be glib about it, but these are going to depend on things such as what month this year production starts for some of these vehicles and whether they front-load them based on demand or whether they have more of a steady-state production of cars with our technology. And not even our production licensees know those questions yet. But we're not capacity constrained, so it doesn't really matter. I mean, we obviously want to do as much and as fast as we can, but we have the capacity to do it. No, I understand that. But, you know, it's been a long time, you know, coming, so to speak. I mean, in 2011, when you got the deal with Mercedes, your stock was at $10. It peaked out at then. It's one-fifth the price. And nothing has really happened in 11 years, Joe. I've been a long-time stockholder. I don't know why the current management team is still in place if they can't generate the revenue that we all hope to see from this company. Well, I appreciate the fact that you and I are both long-term shareholders, and, you know – It looks like you've got a great technology. That's the problem. I mean, it looks like you've got a great technology, but – Yeah. Alan, the two things that we had to solve were cost – And cost. And we did that. And, you know, the added benefit was width as well. So markets that didn't exist to us now exist like architectural. And, you know, I guess maybe what I would also say is we're in an industry that's not very easy to do. If you look at our two closest public competitors, you know, one is their stock has been decimated. Yeah, what was the name of that company? That's Vue. That's Vue. And another one, Crown, has no revenue. So, you know, maybe we're the tallest midget, but, you know, sorry to use a politically incorrect thing, but it's not an easy industry, and they would kill to be in some of the markets that we're in, like automotives and aircraft. So... Yeah, I see you got a buck and a half, $1.60. That was $10 in the past year. It was $10 when they de-SPACed. Yeah, it was $10 a year ago. Look, I don't mean to be, you know, you're a great guy, and I just like to see these things gel together eventually because, I mean, everybody feels, and we all do, that there's tremendous opportunity here. Yeah. Alan, I was born three months premature. patience is not my strong suit so um so you know i there's nobody more than me that wants to see this happen sooner but you want to also see it done right and i think that you know what you see when things aren't done right is some of the disasters that have existed in other parts of our industry so um you know we focus on you know quality customers quality uh installations and doing things right and also not subsidizing it i mean we you know we obviously will make long-term investments and things. But if you look at, for example, economics on view, every dollar of revenue costs them $4. And there's no expectation that they're going to get economies of scale. So every time they announce a new project, I love it. I mean, they're digging a deeper hole. And when you're digging a hole, you should stop digging because I know you did say that a while ago, and obviously that stock has not performed well, but the stocks are voting machines, and at the end of the day, it's voting on how your company, any individual company is doing. And I think once we generate revenue, you'll be able to model us more like a traditional company. But right now, out of the smart glass companies, we're doing quite well, and you know, we're certainly not resting on any laurels. I mean, you know, 20-hour days and, you know, filled with opportunities are things that I love. So for me, and, you know, honestly, we are blessed with, you know, some world-class people that work at our licensees that have been working very hard and other people at Research Frontiers that are quite talented. So, you know, So we're firing on all cylinders. It's just a tough industry to be in. And, you know, we seem to be the ones that are going to emerge successful out of this based on everything I can from what my competitors do. I think you was focusing in on more of the architectural industry or China. Right. And so it's scrapers. Yeah, and it's mostly domestic that they're focusing on because one of the problems with a glass-based technology technology as compared to a film-based technology is that the logistics are difficult. You've got to ship fragile, heavy, expensive glass across the world if you have a project somewhere else. That's not easy to do and certainly not in this environment where you have supply chain disruptions. Whereas in our case, you're just shipping film by air freight and laminating it so it's much easier. All right. I have patience and I just hope your execution moves forward and we can get to... you know, profitable company eventually. Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know, we did something no other company did. We stopped it. Now the idea is to show a consistent profit. And, you know, while revenues may be choppy in the beginning as these markets start to emerge and develop, over time, you know, because of our business model, we have, you know, very modest expenses and it all flows to the bottom line. So we should be a very profitable company. Okay. Let's hope so.
spk05: And thank you for your time. Thanks a lot, Alan. Our next question comes from John Nelson.
spk01: Your line is open.
spk07: Hi, Joe. Hey, John. Thanks again for all your efforts and especially an excellent job in controlling costs over the years. I have to ask this question, and if you can't say anything about it. I understand, but one of the sources of revenues listed was special government contract in the automotive area. Can you comment any further on that?
spk03: Without naming the government agency, I could say that it's a very highly visible, high-end use of SPD smart glass that can promote security and comfort inside of a vehicle? Actually, a vehicle, but a fleet of vehicles, and the expectation is that this will have uses outside of the initial agency that we're working with on this. This type of thing tends to start there and end up in a lot of differences within the All right. And I apologize for being a little coy.
spk07: No, you're protecting the business, a potential business, so I understand that.
spk03: I'm also protected. I think in my license agreement with his agent, it's a misdemeanor. I want to stay out of jail if you don't mind doing better outside than on the inside.
spk07: Okay, understood. Thanks, and go research frontiers.
spk05: Thank you, John.
spk01: We have a question from Alan Ginsberg. Your line is open.
spk06: Yeah, hi, Joe. How are you?
spk01: Hey, Alan. How are you?
spk06: Okay, now... You mentioned in your comments that the cost has gone down. Does that mean that we could see in car models that are not as expensive as some of the ones that you've already been in, but more moderately priced cars?
spk03: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. And that was the goal. Yeah.
spk06: Goal. That's something that's on the horizon. That's what I'm asking.
spk03: On the near-term horizon, yes.
spk06: Okay. That's all I want to know. Thank you very much.
spk05: Bye-bye. You're welcome. We have a question from Francis Cordova. Your line is open. Hello, Joe. How are you today?
spk03: Hey, Francis. How are you? Pretty good. My question is, What has been the problem with costs? It seems as if that's been the main problem. Years ago, when I met with Bob, he said it was very inexpensive to make, and that was quite a few years ago, and now you're finally talking about costs coming down. What was the problem? So, yeah, so let me break it down into different components. materials that are synthesized so that's not the expensive part some of the transparent conductive coatings on the plastic is probably the most expensive part of the system and you know when you have a single supplier like Hitachi there's nothing wrong with Hitachi they make a great product and you know we're very happy with not only the product but how it's shared in automotive as you know being highly reliable which was, you know, essential for a new technology coming out of the gate. A single source of anything, they tend to act like monopolistic suppliers, and adding a second layer immediately attached to the drop price. So it wasn't all inherent in the technology that there was high cost, but also with volume products, the ability to buy components like the coded PET and other materials you know, becomes, you know, substantially cheaper, and that also contributes to the lower cost. And then you add to it an extra yield. So the Gauzy facility in Germany is state-of-the-art. It's 11 years newer than the Hitachi facility. The technology that just, quite frankly, didn't exist when Hitachi opened their facility, such as, you know, LED-based UV curing, where you don't have to generate a lot of heat, from the UV lamp to cure the materials. So it means that you get better throughputs and quick turnaround time and more control over the process. So things like that were things that Gauzy built in and they gave a lot of thought to other things. And I mentioned one of them, which was variable width coating so that you can eliminate a lot of the costs in terms of materials lost through cutting and stuff like that. So those were some of the things. And then you have typical economies of scale. You know, you put this in one vehicle, it's expensive. You put it in a million vehicles, it's a lot cheaper. So, you know, as we get closer to prices come down, and that's what I alluded to earlier when I was asked, can this make it into the mass market? I've seen substantially lower prices, even from today's prices, which are lower than Hitachi's, you know, substantially lower in volume. So... Are they experiencing any problems coding? In the beginning, everybody does. I mean, coding is an art, but the yields are quite high and the quality is quite high on both products. You'd have to be. I mean, if you have these as a customer, you know, you can't come out with something that's not, you know, top notch. So one of the best things that happened to our industry was Francis was how hard Mercedes kicked the tires because it whipped the entire supply to place, which is what we needed. Is there a difference in the actual color of Gauzy versus Hitachi film? Subjectively, yes. The Gauzy film looks blacker to me. We've gone up side by side with the Hitachi film, and it looks blacker. And for a given coating thickness, it looks darker. And, but it's the same basic materials. McLaren's getting it from Gauzy or Hitachi? I'm not allowed to discuss where they're getting it from. Okay. Initially before, but they, well, I'll say this. Initially, before Gauzy was on the scene, They were still producing McLaren. McLaren in the past at least has used Hitachi film and likes it. Mm-hmm. I would think they would prefer a darker film than the lighter one, but that's just me. Yeah, I think you might be right.
spk05: They're both great products, though. Thanks. Okay, thanks. Bye.
spk01: For those of you who have just joined the call, To ask a question, please press star 1 on your touch controls keypad now. And we have a question from August Berman. Your line is open.
spk04: Hey, Joe. How are you?
spk03: Hey, August. How are you?
spk04: Good, good. Just one question for me. The new autos that you're talking about that are going into series production later this year, Are those more moderately priced vehicles?
spk03: Some are, yes.
spk04: Meaning sub-$60,000 cars?
spk03: I don't know what they're going to charge. They're typically known to be much less expensive than the cars we've been in.
spk05: Got it. Perfect. Thanks, Joe. You're welcome. And we have no more questions in queue at this time.
spk03: Okay. Well, look, if we haven't fully answered any questions that were either emailed to us or presented in our presentation today or during the Q&A, just email me and we'll do our best. A couple of closing remarks. 2020 began a year of great accomplishments for your company. In our main revenue segment, automotive, great companies like Gentex, who I'm a big fan of, saw Q4 revenues down 21%. And weakness was driven by an overall double-digit decline in production. But even in the midst of this and the pandemic and the chip shortage and the supply chain disruptions and other logistic disruptions, research frontiers automotive revenues were up here. I mentioned in January 2021, Cadillac announced the use of the four-quadrant SPD smart glass sunroofs on their all-new electric flagship Celestique. And during the year, more and more corporations companies increased their investment in electric vehicles, and they also accelerated their timetables. Both were helpful for us. Every major car company has announced an all-electric strategy, and energy efficiency and the reduction of CO2 and other emissions remains an important topic for the industry. And our ability to extend the range of electric vehicles by 5.5% is significant, and the advantages of using SPDLG has been recognized by virtually every major automotive publication out there. Hyundai made an equity investment in our licensee, Gauzy. And when I was at CES two months ago, the chairman of Hyundai Motors himself, along with the CTO and the Korean Economic Ministry, visited Gauzy's booth where SPD sunroofs were on display. Spent quite a bit of time there too, I must say. It's an honor to meet him. Other licensees have also moved forward Automotive projects put the smart glass into serial production. And next week, we're demonstrating a new concept in solar protection for a major OEM on one of their new electric vehicles. As noted, we expect revenues from these new automotive programs to start coming in perhaps as early as the next year, which start a production of these vehicles in Q3 and Q4 of 2022, and the Cadillac Celestique in 2020. Also, Vision Systems had a major project win with SPD Smart EDWs being used on the Airbus ACJ220, as well as the EPIC and other aircraft, and trains using large amounts of SPD Smart Glass are transporting passengers on the rails, and new higher-volume train projects were started this year internationally. Now, Z-Display announced a new transparent OLED technology that, thanks to SPD, turns a clear window into a high-definition TV. And in architectural, it remains to be seen whether companies like Crown will overcome the financial scale-up and other technical challenges they currently face, whether the economics of the electrochromic business will ever make sense for the architectural industry, or whether companies like VIEW will even survive the year. My estimate, they have between nine and 11 months' worth of cash, so if I was Raoul Malpoury, as indeed my advice, He's probably out there capital now, which is why they probably haven't filed their financials in over a year. But it's all well because they help promote the idea of smart windows to the market. Their sales teams are helping us in our licensees businesses by building awareness of the benefits of dynamic variable tint windows. And their performance also makes our SPD technology look good. So architectural projects using SPD smart glass have now begun to ship. because Gauzy can coat wide film on their dedicated SPD film production line outside of Stuttgart, Germany. And they also expanded this year the SPD emulsion production capacity in Tel Aviv. And, in fact, our licensees have expanded production capacity in all areas of the supply chain, from the chemistry production to the film coating to the fabrication of end products for all industries, including the artificial automotive, aircraft, marine production, transit, and consumer electronics businesses. And the merger between our licensees, Galzy and Vision Systems, created a powerhouse with growth on our SPD technology. And unlike competitors View, Sage, and Crown in the architectural space, we have a worldwide coverage and much better economics and logistics and certainly better performance. So the seeds of success and growth have been planted and are beginning to sprout. Future looks bright. We all enter 2022 with strength and a strong position to grow and prosper. I thank all of our loyal investors for their continued support and trust, and I thank you for participating on today's call.
spk01: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for attending.
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