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7/30/2025
Greetings and welcome to Regency Center's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Kristy McValry. Thank you, you may begin.
Good morning and welcome to Regency Center's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer, Mike Moss, Chief Financial Officer, Alan Roth, East Region President and Chief Operating Officer, and Nick Wibbenmeyer, West Region President and Chief Investment Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on management's current beliefs and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It's possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by these forward-looking statements we may make. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our most recent form 10-K and 10-Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials, which are posted to our investor relations website. Please note that we also have posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including disclosures related to forward earnings guidance. Our caution on forward-looking statements also applies to these presentation materials. As a reminder, given the number of participants we have on the call today, we respectfully ask that you limit your questions to one and then rejoin the queue with any additional follow-up questions. Lisa?
Thank you, Kristi. Good morning, everyone. We are pleased to deliver another quarter of excellent results driven by both internal and external growth. And this is highlighted by the strength of our operating fundamentals and our accretive capital allocation. On the operating side, we're having a phenomenal year. We continue to outperform on all metrics, demonstrated by strong same property NOI growth and total NOI growth. In the second quarter, we had great success commencing rents for tenants in our S&O pipeline, achieved record low shop move-outs, and sustained robust leasing activity with strong rent growth. Our investments team is also firing on all cylinders, sourcing high-quality opportunities, and deploying more than $600 million of capital year to date. Most recently, we were excited to announce the acquisition of five outstanding shopping centers located in a premier community in South Orange County, California. We are also launching a new quarter of our corporate responsibility strategy. Strategically, this transaction checks all of our boxes to create earnings, quality, and growth while enhancing our presence in this supply-constrained Southern California market. During the second quarter, we also released our annual corporate responsibility report, highlighting our progress and future strategic direction. Our ongoing commitment to corporate responsibility in support of our business objectives remains a foundational strategy for Regency, and the many achievements noted in the report reflect the dedication and efforts of our entire team. Given the strength in our results, substantial progress in leasing, and opportunistic capital allocation, along with greater visibility for the remainder of the year, we are raising our $1.5 billion in the next four years to build a full-year growth outlook for same property NOI, core operating earnings, and narrate FFO. Regency's distinct strategic advantages continue to differentiate our company and position us favorably for future growth. Our high-quality grocery-anchored shopping centers located in desirable suburban trade areas provide essential retail offerings focused on necessity, service, convenience, and value. Our well-established national development platform allows us to drive substantial value creation, and our strong balance sheet with low leverage and dependable access to low-cost capital enables our team to continue to pursue and successfully execute on strategic growth opportunities. We are only halfway through 2025, and I am so proud of our team's accomplishments so far. I look forward to building on this success for the remainder of this year, into 2026, and beyond. Allen?
Thank you, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. Our team achieved outstanding second-quarter operating results, highlighted by same property NOI growth exceeding 7%, with base rent being the largest contributor at 4.5%. As discussed on last quarter's call, we had anticipated above-trend growth in the second quarter, and we delivered even better results, which were driven by a multitude of positive factors, including robust leasing activity, record-low shop move-outs, favorable bankruptcy outcomes, accelerated rent commencement timing on a few key anchor tenants, and meaningful improvement in our expense recovery rates. We maintained our same property lease rate and continued to grow shop occupancy as our high-quality properties are commanding strong tenant demand from a wide range of categories, including grocers, restaurants, health and wellness, off-price, and personal services. Our team is seizing every opportunity to enhance merchandising, as leading retailers recognize that high-quality, well-located space is in short supply, and it is in centers like ours where these -in-class retailers are achieving exceptional results. We continue to commence tenants within our S&O pipeline at a rapid pace, driving our commenced occupancy rate higher by another 40 basis points -over-quarter. At the same time, we are also continuing to backfill the pipeline with new leases. Our lease to commenced occupancy spread was 260 basis points at quarter-end, representing an S&O pipeline of $38 million of incremental base rent. We continued to drive rent growth higher in the quarter for both new and renewal leasing, achieving cash rent spreads of 10% and gap rent spreads of nearly 20%. Our gap spreads demonstrate our ability to not only drive -to-market rent increases when signing new and renewal leases, but also reflect our continued success embedding meaningful contractual rent steps in the majority of our leases. In summary, I am really proud of our results, and I am even more proud of the work of our incredible team to achieve them. We are capitalizing on persistent demand for our -in-class shopping centers and the phenomenal operating trends that exist in our sector as we upgrade our merchandising and drive NOI higher. With current year lease commencements largely derisked, we are full speed ahead on continuing to build our future lease pipeline as we drive momentum and sustain growth opportunities well into 2026. Nick?
Thank you, Alan, and good morning, everyone. We have maintained a robust pace of investment activity with more than $600 million of a creative capital deployment so far this year. Our investments platform is unequaled by our ability to acquire, redevelop, and importantly, develop ground-up -in-class shopping centers. As Lisa mentioned, we recently had a tremendous opportunity to lean into acquiring. Last week, we closed on a five-asset portfolio within the Rancho Mission Viejo Master Plan community in Orange County, California, for $357 million. The RMB portfolio, as we refer to it, is 97% leased and includes more than 600,000 square feet of high-quality retail GLA and one of Southern California's most sought-after suburban submarkets. These shopping centers are right down the middle of Regency's Fairway, strategically positioned at primary intersections with strong trade area demographics and anchored by high-performing grocers. The transaction is well aligned with Regency's capital allocation strategy, a creative to our growth, earnings, and overall portfolio quality, as well as leverage-neutral to our balance sheet. Furthermore, our upreach structure provided us a competitive advantage in the transaction, offering tax-planning optionality to the seller, as well as an opportunity to participate in our future success through the ownership of our operating partnership units. We also assumed $150 million of below-market debt with an average term to maturity of about 12 years. In addition to the acquisition of these exceptional assets, we continue to successfully execute on our $500 million in-process development and redevelopment pipeline. Consistent with the fundamental strength that exists throughout our operating portfolio, leasing activity for these projects is robust, and blended project returns exceed 9%. Importantly, our team is completing projects on time and on budget. We are also making significant progress sourcing incremental opportunities, especially in our ground-up development program. While overall supply growth in our sector remains limited, we continue to find more than our fair share of attractive projects as the leading national developer of high-quality open-air shopping centers. We have started nearly $50 million of new projects this year, and after two consecutive years of $250 million or more of starts, we continue to have visibility to at least that level in 2025, with the majority of the investment in ground-up development. Leading grocers and retailers across the country are demonstrating a strong commitment to expand in our markets and partner with us on the high-quality centers we are developing. In closing, our team is energized and is taking advantage of the flywheel momentum we built within our investments platform to source new opportunities. As a result, we continue to see substantial activity across the board in acquisitions, redevelopment, and ground-up development, fueled by our -in-class team, sector-leading balance sheet, substantial free cash flow, and access to capital. We look forward to announcing additional exciting investments in the near future. Mike?
Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. As you've heard from Lisa, Alan, and Nick, Regency delivered exceptional results again this quarter. Our same property, NOI, and earnings growth surpassed our expectations, and we are grateful for our team's hard work in delivering these results. Following this strong first-half performance, combined with greater conviction on our outlook for the remainder of the year, we are raising our current year earnings guidance. I'll refer you to pages 5 and 6 in our earnings presentation while I highlight some key guidance changes. We raised our same property, NOI growth range to 4.5 to 5%, up 115 basis points at the midpoint. We raised our NAIRD FFO range by 6 cents per share at the midpoint, now representing full year growth of more than 7%, and we raised our core operating earnings per share by 5 cents at the midpoint, representing growth north of 6%. The increase to same property, NOI guidance was fundamentally driven by higher average commenced occupancy from higher shop retention rates, combined with strong lease commencement activity. Additionally, and to the follow-on impact of the elevated occupancy, together with the completion of our annual reconciliation process, we are benefiting from higher expense recovery rates, further amplifying NOI growth. Lastly, with greater clarity on the outcomes related to some of the more high-profile bankruptcies this year, we are also narrowing our credit loss guidance to 75 to 85 basis points. While the increase to same property, NOI, was the largest contributor to our overall earnings guidance range, our accretive investment activity is also moving the earnings needle even higher, including the accretion expected to be generated by our recently announced RMB portfolio acquisition. We've also substantially de-risked our capital raising plan for the year, following the successful execution of our $400 million bond offering in May. We issued 7-year notes at a 5% coupon, allowing us to pre-fund our November unsecured bond maturity, and resolve our remaining corporate-level financing needs. This issuance demonstrates our clear cost of capital advantage as we remain the only shopping center REIT with an A credit rating from both Moody's and S&P. Our leverage is comfortably within our target range of 5 to 5.5 times, and will remain so even taking into consideration the portfolio acquisition, which was funded on an effective leverage-neutral basis. We continue to generate significant levels of free cash flow, have nearly full availability on our $1.5 billion credit facility, and still have $100 million of unsettled equity from our forward ATM issuance late last year, which we will settle in the second half of this year. With our sector-leading financial and balance sheet position, we will continue to play offense and execute on strategic investment opportunities for defined ongoing earnings growth. With that, we welcome your questions.
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. As a reminder, Regency respectfully ask that you limit yourself to one question, and if necessary, please re-queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please,
while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Samir Canal with
Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, everybody. I guess, Mike, as you alluded, very strong print for SameStor in the quarter. Certainly a big contributor was the base rent, but also saw some positive contributions from recoveries, other income and percentage rent. So walk us through how you're thinking about the contribution from the various components into the second half as we think about the SameStor NOI cadence.
Thanks. Sure. Hey, Samir. Good morning. Yeah, so last quarter we spent a little bit of time talking about the known deceleration and the growth rate that we were seeing in the numbers, and that hasn't changed. And, however, what I would add to that is the second quarter was exceptional on a couple other line-on, which has kind of just raised the entire sea level, but that bias to the second half of the year being a little lower than the midpoint still exists. So what's going on here? As you said, base rent will continue to – has been and will continue to be the largest contributor. But some of the credit loss elements are where that bias is happening in the back half of the year. As we know, we have now more certainty and we know that the BK move-outs from Party City, from Joanne, from Rite Aid, these will be back half of the year elements. We also have uncollectible lease income. The first half of the year has been incredibly low, well below our historical averages. We are planning for a slightly higher level of ULI in the back half of the year. I will share that we're planning for still below historic levels, but higher than the first half, which is putting a little pressure on that growth rate. Lastly, there's a comp in the prior year from an uncollectible lease income perspective. Again, very low in the back half of last year, so comping to a little bit higher this year in our expectations. And in the second quarter uniquely, there is some percentage rent that shifted into the quarter from the first quarter. There's other income, which by definition is a bit of an uneven line item, and we had a little bit of froth in the second quarter. And then lastly, tried to color it up in the prepared remarks, but our reconciliations. Again, this is a testament to the team and just rent paying occupancy being higher, and it exceeded our expectations on our ability to not only collect rent on a prior basis, but also to continue to collect recoveries, I should say, on a prior basis and collect recoveries going forward, which has increased our eye level there. I hope that helps on the growth rate and the trajectory, but I also hope it doesn't take away from the fact that we've had an incredible first half of the year,
and
we're looking forward
to continuing that momentum. Thanks a lot.
Thanks, Mayor.
Our
next
question comes
from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Questions just about the state property and a wide growth algorithm. You have a wonderful chart in your presentation that outlines the different drivers, which is driving the 7% plus state property and wide growth during the quarter. As we think about it going forward, occupancy, you're kind of at peak, least occupancy, maybe still a little bit of room on the commence, but can you just talk about kind of the shift away from occupancy into some of the other components of the same property and a wide growth algorithm to kind of make up for that? I know Alan mentioned in his comments just that continued meaningful contractual event steps in a majority of releases, if you could touch on that as well. Thank you.
Yeah, let me just start from, hey, Michael, it's Mike. From the algorithm perspective, I'll let Alan provide some color if he thinks it's necessary. One, I appreciate you recognizing the disclosure. Pretty proud of it. The team does a great job sharing that. On a perspective basis, you're right. We continue to see continued runway on a commenced occupancy perspective. While we are at peak levels of percent least, we have not reached peak levels of commence. That gives us confidence as we move to the second half of this year and into 2026 that we have a continued what I would call above trend growth profile or opportunity ahead of Regency, and we're excited for that. I'll let Alan speak to the SNO pipeline in a few seconds, but we should see that continue to compress in a very positive way. And then lastly, from an algorithm standpoint, let me share that redevelopments have been and we are expecting them to continue to be quite positive to our same property and a wide growth metric. We've talked about in the past 25 will have north of 100 basis points positive impact to our same property growth rate. And actually, as we sit here today, I think that may replicate into 2026. We've done an exceptional job starting and delivering and working on our redevelopment business and the prospects for that to continue to be positive to analyze growth. I think we'll continue in the next year.
Yeah, Michael, I'll just color up the SNO piece. And, you know, I would just say our team is continuing to make really great progress bringing rent online, as I mentioned in the opening remarks, but I'm even more proud of continuing to backfill that pipeline with additional Sign leases. The process is working just in terms of getting our tenants to start plans early proactively fitting out our spaces to make them more marketable ordering equipment in advance, all leading to some accelerated rent commencement date from a normalized run rate. I think we've mentioned we expect that at a stabilized basis. And I'll be at about a hundred and seventy five basis points, but the compression we had this quarter, it's a great thing, particularly when it's in conjunction with percent commence going up, which it did 40 basis points. So teams clicking on all cylinders on that front. And I hope that that number continues to compress certainly over time.
Thanks, Michael.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from, excuse me, our next question comes from Greg McInnis with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.
Oh, this is Victor Fadibon with Greg McInnis. I'd like to dig into this so-called acquisition to better understand transaction markets through this lens. So who are you competing with for the asset and from your perspective, what gave you a competitive edge into successful executing the deal?
Morning, Greg. This is Nick. Appreciate the question. You know, this is one of those opportunities that I can, I can really sort of pound our chest that it was truly off market. And so the seller is a family that's owned these properties literally since the 1800s. They've owned tens of thousands of acres throughout Southern California that they've been master planning, master plan developing now for generations. And they chose us and they came to us really for three primary reasons in our discussions with them. First and foremost, the quality of currency matters. And so the up-retransaction was really important to them from a tax optionality standpoint moving forward on their side. And the quality of the currency they were getting in return was really critical given they are now a large shareholder of Regency Centers. And so we appreciate their commitment to our platform and their ownership now in our company. So beyond the quality of our currency, the quality of our operations matters. Again, they have a very vested interest in this community now and what they've done to develop it to date. But there's future development on the horizon residential to the east of these projects and they live and shop in these communities. They're very, very proud of these shopping centers. And so the quality of the operator taking over these shopping centers to make sure they are best in class moving forward was critical to them. And then last but not least, there are future development opportunities within the future phases of their master plan development. And so the opportunity to partner with them on future developments mattered. And so really when they prioritized those three items, the only company they felt like checked all three of those boxes was us. And so we're very proud to have engaged with them, came up with a quality transaction for all parties involved.
I just need to come come over top just for a second and just say I'm really proud of the team because it took many throughout our organization to make this happen. It certainly didn't happen overnight, as you can imagine. And just ditto everything Nick said in terms of why the sellers were comfortable and wanted to transact with Regency. And that goes to the people and to our strategy and to the company that we've built. So grateful, grateful to the whole team, grateful to the sellers.
Thanks, Victor. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Steve Sacqua with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Could you maybe expound on the development opportunities? You know, it seems like development yields are quite high for you guys, the acquisition yields. And I'm just curious if there's, you know, incremental discussions you're having with the national retailers about new developments.
Appreciate the question, Steve, against Nick. Yeah, as we've been articulating, I think now for quite quite a few quarters, we continue to see demand from best in class grocers growing their physical presence in the markets that we do business. And so we continue to have very active conversations with those key grocers about partnering with them to help them build their program out. And so we, as I've articulated in the prepared remarks, we're bullish on our ability to find those opportunities. They are very difficult. I'll reinforce that. It is challenging to find these deals. But we are best in class, given our relationships, our expertise and our capital. Our teams just continue to do a tremendous job coast to coast partnering with these grocers and putting these deals together. And so we're bullish. As we've talked about, we delivered, we started $250 million the last two years. And as I said in the prepared remarks, we expect to start that much this year or even maybe beyond that. And we do expect the majority of that to be in roundup developments, given the success our team has had. And in terms of yield, as you've seen, we're in that 7% range, 7% plus. And I would expect us to maintain that that yield. I cited for the time being.
Thank you.
Our next question comes from Craig Malmon with city. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks. It's Nick here with Craig. You touched on the better expense recovery rates in the quarter and net op ex dropped meaningfully quarter over quarter. So how sustainable is that going forward? Or do you expect a reversal?
There's a it'll it'll it'll decelerate from a recovery rate perspective going forward again because of the one there is a one time element to the second quarter being that we completed our our annual reconciliation process. So not to get too much in the weeds there, but that results in a little bit of prior recognition that exceeded our estimates that we booked at the end of last year. The rough number there's maybe a million dollars of kind of one time baked into the second quarter. I do. We do anticipate that this recovery rate basically will fall maybe by 100 basis points. If you're using Q2 as a run rate going forward, but that. Again, the the the average in place occupancy is really what's driving this higher rate of recovery for us and that average in place occupancy last quarter. We were talking about that potentially moving by 75 basis points or more in 2025. Now, as we see here today, given the success we had in the second quarter, we're seeing that move by north of 100 basis points in 2025. That significant change in average commence occupancy is what's driving the fundamental increase
in our expense recoveries.
Thanks, Nick.
Our next question comes from a Todd Thomas with KeyBank Capital Markets.
Please proceed with your question.
Hi, thanks. I wanted to go back to the SoCal acquisition. Do you have any rights to participate in future developments or future acquisition opportunities with the sellers in SoCal within that master plan community? And then you highlighted that it's a creative to regencies core growth rate. Can you just provide some additional detail on the growth opportunity with within the portfolio, which is 97% lease? What's the upside related to? And is there any incremental capex or reinvestment capital anticipated in order to generate that that outsized growth?
Here, Todd, let me start with your second question. Yes, we're really excited about the future growth of that portfolio. As you articulated, it is 97% least. However, we do think there's upside in some of the rents that are in the near term, and there are some small redevelopment opportunities. There's currently a vacant ride aid in the Sandero marketplace that we anticipate redeveloping and is soon to be vacated CVS further north in the Bridge Park. And so small redevelopments within that portfolio. But again, exactly what we do every day in our core portfolio. And so we do expect that growth rate to be north of 3% moving forward. And so although that portfolio has been really well taken care of, really well operated, there's still opportunity for a growth within it, which is what we're excited about. In terms of your first question, I'll start with the acquisitions first. No, we don't have the ability to acquire more within that master plan community because the answer is simple. We bought all of their assets that currently exist. And so that's what we were so excited about within this acquisition. We own all of the retail servicing, these phenomenal master plan developments. And so knowing that we really do control that market is what we're excited about. And then in terms of future development, there are planned future development, especially on the residential side, again, which is just going to bring more demand to the existing assets. But we do anticipate the potential for future retail. And we have had discussions and very positive dialogue about participating and partnering to everybody's benefit on those projects in the future.
Thanks, Todd.
Our next question comes from
Handel St. Just with Mizzouho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Hey there. Good morning. You guys mentioned plans to settle the $100 million remaining forwards in the second half of the year. So I guess I was curious what your thoughts or plans were for that capital. I think most of us presume it's for development or redevelopment, but also was curious kind of what your appetite for more potential acquisitions could be in near term. Thank you.
Hey Handel, it's Mike. Yeah, to reiterate our plans, we were going to settle that in the second half of the year. We have to settle it contractually by end of November, early December, and we will do that. What we're seeing, it's all fungible from a use of proceeds perspective. We view it as just additional added capacity for us to continue to grow our development pipeline, to continue to find creative acquisition opportunities. So it goes into that bucket. I will say there does appear to be some momentum building on our ability to roll up down re-transactions, smaller joint ventures where we can take advantage of rolling up in our understanding of those assets and buying the unowned portions of those shopping centers. So that is maybe a near term direct use of that capital. But on
balance, I would just view it as that added capacity.
Thanks Handel.
Our next question comes from
Cooper Clark with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Thank you for taking the question. Could you provide thoughts on farther portfolio style deals from here and where you're seeing portfolio cap rates for single asset transactions as we think about the SoCal acquisition and the upward revision to acquisition cap rates and guidance?
Sure. Let me speak first, Cooper. Good morning. This is Nick, to what we're just seeing in the market in general. And then Mike may color up a little bit of just how to think of the cap rate related to RMV. And so we're still seeing overall a lot of demand in our sector. So no question, there's capital that's very interested in owning irreplaceable grocery anchored assets throughout the country. And so whether that's single assets or portfolio quality assets, seeing cap rates push down to low fives depending on the growth profile into the low sixes. And so there's some stability in that in the sense that it feels like that's the way it's been here over the last couple of quarters, given the capital flow and interest in our sector for all of the reasons you're hearing flow through our operating results. And so we continue to be competitive. And as we've always said, the really good news about our business plan is we don't have to buy things to meet our growth objectives, given our development and redevelopment program. But when those opportunities present themselves, where we feel like we can acquire assets that are equal or better than our quality and growth profile and that we can fund creatively, we are ready to move. And RMV is a perfect example of that.
Thanks, Cooper.
Our
next question comes
from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning. I'm hoping you talk a little bit about the tenant health on the small shop side. You said that the turnover was less than expected. I guess is that why do you attribute that to and how are tenants feeling about care, particularly on the small shop side where there I think there's less maybe ability to pass costs or to have negotiating leverage with suppliers?
Juan, good morning. I appreciate the question. Look, we're looking at foot traffic to our assets and it remains positive. Our ARs are at historic lows. Our sales are up for our retailers. And our pipeline, particularly on the new lease side, remains very strong. So your question about the health of the tenant, it's very strong in our portfolio and very proud of the discipline and intentional approach of how we're managing that. Retention rate was about 77%. It's a little bit higher than we typically see. And again, I think that's a little bit of the supply constraint that you're seeing out there coupled with productive stores for them. But, you know, for us, cycling through and enhancing merchandise has always been a key thing for us. So we're hearing nothing but really positive feedback from our existing tenant base. And as they think through your tariff question, you know, they're time-tested operators. They know how to operate and be agile through uncertain times. And, you know, I suspect if the time comes where they need to negotiate with suppliers, they will. If they need to consider sourcing goods elsewhere, they will. If it's passing through some expense to the consumer, they will. They're going to evaluate all the levers that need to be done. And I don't believe they're sitting back. They're evaluating those things now and many are making changes right now. So feedback is positive and pipeline that's coming behind it remains very positive.
I would just reiterate what we've been saying for many years. We are, if you think about our product type, no one really knows, there's no consensus on what the impact will be of policies. But what we do know is that we have a really high quality portfolio. You just mentioned we have the health of our tenants is really strong. And we are in good suburban trade areas. And with the focus on essential needs, value, convenience, daily necessities, we feel really good about the future opportunities and growth within our portfolio. The consumers not only are our tenants resilient, the consumer is also very resilient. And we continue to see that with all of the trends in our portfolio, foot traffic, tenant sales, et cetera, feel really good about it.
Thank you, Juan.
Our next question
comes from Rich Hightower with Barclays Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking the question. A lot of good questions so far. But I think just to maybe just to follow up on the tightening of the credit loss assumption for 2025. Obviously, that's a good sign. But any indications on maybe potentially troubled tenants for 26, even notwithstanding the comments just now about very strong tenant health, any sort of leading indicators there?
Hey, Rich, let me just speak to the guidance and the change a little bit and then Alan can jump in too from a tenant health perspective. I appreciate you helping us reiterate that we did kind of narrow and lessen our outlook for credit loss. And I would like to remind everyone when we speak of credit loss at Regency, it is a combination both of move outs from bankruptcies or lost base rent together with uncollectible lease income or traditionally bantam expense. I'd say both of those elements have declined in our outlook for the year. The BK outlook is what declined the most. And if you think about what's occurred over the last three months, it's just a lot of clarity. We've had a lot more clarity come to us through the outcomes of these bankruptcy proceedings. And we now know that which stores we will lose and which we won't and when. And the timing and that certainty is what's allowed us to lower our eye level there in a very positive way. As an example, we learned in May that CVS was taking four of the Rite Aid positions in our Pacific Northwest portfolio. So that is a change to our plan in allowing us to lower our eye level. I mean, I don't know if we have much more to add beyond what Alan already shared from an outlook perspective. Our tenants are extraordinarily healthy. The AR that we're looking at greater than 90 days is a historically low levels. We would continue to anticipate a retention rate roughly in the 75 to 80 basis point range. Tenants will move out. So that element of the business plan won't change. Active asset management will continue. We are always looking to upgrade our merchandising mix and ensure that we're providing the best product for our consumer. But at the same time, there's going to be bankruptcy filings. It is an element of our business. Tenants will fail. Regency does better than most in those outcomes. We retain in reorganizations, we retain a lot of our tenancies and when and those that we don't retain, we release pretty quickly and oftentimes
higher rents. Thanks. Thank you.
Our
next question comes
from West Gulliday with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Hello, everyone. I just want to talk about the earlier commitments of a few tenants. Were those primarily junior anchors and are they just looking to open a season earlier?
Oh, Wes, I'm assuming you're talking about earlier commencement of rent. Yes, it was a couple of anchor tenants that in fact we were just able to accelerate openings is really what it boils down to. And I think, again, that's a testament to driving as a very efficient process, being front and center, visible and partnering with our retailers to get them open.
Wes, did that answer your question?
Was it just the ability to get it open or were they kind of pushing to say, hey, we want to open instead of maybe fall, we want to get open for the summer? Was there anything like that going on?
No, there was no, again, I think it's always interest for our line. The sooner we can get it open, the quicker we can get our consumer in, the faster we can generate sales, which is a real win-win for all of us. I really just don't have much more to add to it than that, Wes. It was just a good partnership. And I think that is one thing that we pride ourselves on is working together with our customer, which is our retailer, our tenant, and doing everything we can to get them open sooner.
Okay, thank you. Our next question comes from Keebin Kim with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you. Just a couple of quick ones on leasing. The renewal spread this quarter, .2% on a gap basis. Can you remind me, does that include options or not, and what would that spread look like without options? And just second question, just over time, any lessons learned on how much you can stretch optimacy costs in your better quality assets? I realize it's probably higher for those assets, but has that elasticity changed at all over time? Thank you.
Keebin, good morning. So to answer your first question, yes, it does include options. And our negotiated renewal rates are absolutely higher when you're excluding the option rate from that metric. Your second question was on?
It was basically on our ability to push occupancy costs. I'm happy to take it. Because I've spoken about this on other calls and in most meetings, there's clearly, there's been limited supply. And so the supply demand equation we've talked about is in our favor today. It has to be win-win. Alan used that term as well. Our tenants need to be successful for us to be successful, but they know that there's limited supply. We know that there's limited supply. So they, again, they're better operators, they're time tested, and they continue to invest in their business and to really find other ways to eliminate costs in their business so that they can afford higher occupancy costs. So yes, we're absolutely pushing. It's why you continue to see the really strong contractual rent steps that the team is getting in our leases in addition to the rent spreads upon expiration. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Mike Muller with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah, hi. In the comments, you specifically mentioned working to source new developments. And looking at the SUP, it's about a 50-50 split today between ground up and redevelopment investment. Do you think that's about where the mix is going to stay for the next three to five years? And how deep is the redepth pipeline?
Sure. Mike, good morning. Appreciate the question. Look, the reality is, as I articulated a little bit ago, we continue to find success in the ground up program. And so I do think just given where our occupancy is going, redevelopments, we are always going to be a core part of our business. We're going to constantly be pruning for our portfolio for opportunities to invest capital creatively. And so I don't want to take away from those efforts. But when you talk about a spend rate and a start rate in the $250 million plus range, I do think as you look forward, the majority of that will start to come from ground up developments. And I think, again, this year, you'll see that flip in terms of our starts as we round the third and fourth quarter here. Thanks,
Mike. Our next question comes from Flores Van Dykem with Lidenberg Solomon. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, thanks for taking my question. So, Lisa, I mean, I've heard you talk about the favorable supply and demand and obviously one of the best operating environments in history or certainly recent history. Has your thinking changed on what your peak occupancy, both least and physical, can be? And how much more room do you think there is? And certainly some of your peers have been achieving higher occupancy levels, least occupancy than you guys, which historically you've led the sector. Has your thinking changed on how much more room you have to push occupancy levels higher?
Absolutely. And we are continuing to do that. And I feel good that we're already surpassing prior peaks. You know, Alan has often said records are made to be broken and we continue to break them. So our thinking has changed and we do believe that we can continue to push higher. And I do believe that the percent least is highly correlated with quality of a portfolio. Ours is very well-leased. But at the same time, you can't look at it in isolation. Nick just mentioned the focus on redevelopments and intense asset management. And when you do redevelop, often there will be strategic vacancy. And so that may cloud the numbers some. But there's no question that we believe that we can continue to surpass and hold higher levels of percent least than we have in past history.
There is no ceiling, Loris.
And
we
are very comfortable and absolutely committed to also taking space offline when it's a creative to do the redevelopments, as Lisa had mentioned. Good question.
Thank you, Floris.
Our next question comes from Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Great.
Thank you. Just following up on the second part of Cooper's question. So how do you think about the magnitude of potential for more larger scale OP unit deals? Sounds like this one took years to come together. It was pretty unique in terms of the scale and quality. So it would be helpful for you to frame how the transaction like this may be out there and how you balance taking the good with the bad in portfolio transactions. Thank you.
Yeah. Let me start, Nick. And you can maybe speak to the specifics of the deal. It's really, Jamie, it's really an M&A type of mindset when you come across these opportunities. I don't want to – I mean, they don't come around that often nor does large scale M&A. But the mindset is largely the same. We're partnering. There's a give and a get. We are selling our portfolio. They are selling their assets. We are buying their assets. They're buying our portfolio. We have – we bring to that a mindset of what is our value, what is our NAV. We balance that with what is our perception of their value, their cash flows. And you move from there. By the way, those cash flows would include, in this particular case, the value of the below market debt that they're bringing to the equation as well. And just to reiterate, that's .2% coupon for 12 years, which has value to it. And then I think to speak to the points that Nick made earlier, Regency can be a magnet and we are very attractive to a seller because anyone with a down reek and an up reek, sorry, can provide tax protection. But the ability to partner with us and see the value of the combined organization going forward and the growth potential of not only those assets but the balance of the portfolio, we think separates
Regency as we continue to look for more opportunities.
And I just add from the question about the how do we balance portfolio, it's what we always say, I'll just reiterate it, whether it's a single asset, whether it's a portfolio of five properties or whether it's a company, is the transaction accretive to earnings? Is it neutral or accretive to our future growth rate? And is it neutral or accretive to the quality of the portfolio? And if it checks those boxes, we have the ability to execute and we do, successfully. Yeah, and just
to come back, because I want to get some points out there that hopefully are pretty clear through our disclosure. But we're getting a penny to this year's earnings, which again is only a half year's worth of ownership. So you double that. We're at two pennies accretion on a relatively small portfolio with respect to the quantum of Regency's assets. It just, again, speaks to the quality of this trade. I think it was a pretty special transaction. We're very proud to have our new unit holders. I know they're proud of the outcome that we've accomplished together. And
we're excited to see these properties grow.
Thanks, Amy.
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Good morning. I found it interesting that you intrigued your exposure to California, already your top state by ADR. Do you have any strategic plans to increase or reduce exposure to other US markets? Or should I think about future acquisitions and really almost like 100% driven by granular trade area and property considerations?
Paulina, let me try to address what I believe I heard with regards to really just portfolio diversification and exposure to markets. We really like the markets in which we operate. We really like the diversification, national exposure. We have talked about that there are potentially some markets that we would like to expand into to grow further, like our acquisition in Nashville earlier this year. And we will continue to invest incrementally in the markets that we like. Again, if it checks all of those boxes, if we are able to find compelling opportunities that are accretive to earnings, accretive to growth, accretive to quality. And again, we are confident and comfortable with our portfolio diversification. We don't have outsized exposure to any one MSA.
Thanks, Paulina.
Our
next question comes from Michael Gorman with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Understanding it's a smaller component, can we maybe just reverse the acquisition discussion and talk about the disposition guidance and how we think about that $75 million? And are those assets that are no longer accretive to Regency's growth profile or are these assets that have maybe moved out of the quality spectrum, whether it's demographics or geography or tenant base that's in those assets? How are you thinking about what's in that bucket and using that for a funding source going forward? Thanks.
Yeah, I appreciate it, Mike. So the guidance has unchanged. For the year we've been forecasting $75 million sales. We did drop the cap rate this quarter on those to five and a half now that we have some more clarity on the transaction. But frankly, it's largely one asset where we see a lower growth potential than the balance of the Regency portfolio. And by the way of the cap rate that we're disclosing, you can tell we're getting a pretty full value for that. So call it a flat-ish grocery anchor shopping center that we would be disposing of that we see. We just don't see the growth potential there any longer relative to Regency. But the other tidbits of the guidance would include smaller pieces of the portfolio that are just non-strategic. So we picked up some small office buildings in the UBP portfolio that we are moving to dispose of, given that they just don't align with our strategy.
And to reiterate what Nick said earlier about being in the position that we do not need to acquire anything to achieve our growth objectives, given our exceptional development platform. We also don't need to sell anything. But when we have an opportunity to dispose of something that, as Mike said, either non-strategic or the growth rate is not on par with what we expect for the whole portfolio and able to invest those funds accretively, we'll capitalize on that opportunity. We believe that it fortifies future NOI growth
and
always have believed that.
Thanks, Michael.
Our next question
comes from Ronald Camden with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Hey, this is just a quick follow-up just on the acquisition environment. You know, I see you guys have a large deal, a couple of your peers talked about activity. Just historically cap rates have been really tight. Is this just a one-off or is this sort of a notable shift where you think over the next couple of years there will be more sort of opportunities?
Thanks. Ron, good morning. I appreciate the question. This is Nick. Yeah, look, the reality is sellers come out when they see demand picking up. And so, as I articulated earlier, there is demand for core grocery and shopping centers from the investment community. And so I do think that is bringing some sellers out that are testing that market. And so as we look at what's on the market right now, I would say it's up from a year ago. And we're a little bit in that summer lull right now where people are going to wait until after Labor Day to call for offers. And I do think another group of assets will come out after Labor Day. And so I do think we are seeing a marginal pickup in velocity. But as we've articulated on this call several times, we're going to chase the ones that make sense for us and lean in on those. But the good news is we don't have to find those to make our earnings growth that we're projecting. To
be really clear, while we say we don't need to, we like to. And we've been very successful. And if you look at our track records for acquiring compelling, outstanding shopping centers that check all of those boxes, we have a cost of capital advantage. We have a platform advantage. And when we're able to find those opportunities, we've been able to execute successfully. And I expect that we'll continue to do so.
Thanks so
much.
We've reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Lisa Palmer for closing comments.
Thanks so much, Rob. Thank you all for your interest in Regency and have a great day. Thank you.
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