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spk00: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RF Industries third quarter fiscal 2021 financial results conference call. All lines have been placed on a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions and comments following the presentation. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Todd Curley of MKR Investor Relations. Sir, the floor is yours.
spk03: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to RF Industries' third quarter fiscal 2021 financial results conference call. With me on today's call are RF Industries President and CEO Rob Dawson and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Peter Yen. Before I turn the call over to Rob and Peter, I'd like to cover a few quick items. This afternoon, RF Industries issued a press release announcing its third quarter fiscal 2021 financial results. That release is available on the company's website at RFIndustries.com. This call is being broadcast live over the Internet for all interested parties, and the webcast will be archived on the investor relations page of the company's website. I want to remind everyone that during today's call, management will make forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Please note that except for the historical statements, Statements on this call today may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. When used, the words anticipate, believe, expect, intend, future, and other similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect management's current views with respect to future events and financial performance. and are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from outcomes contained in any forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these forward-looking statements to differ from actual results include delays in development, marketing or sales of products, and other risks and uncertainties discussed in the company's periodic reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. RF Industries undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Additionally, throughout this call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. Today's earnings release and the related current report form 8K describe the differences between our GAAP and non-GAAP reporting and present the reconciliation between the two for the periods reported in the release. I'll now turn the conference over to Rob Dawson, President and Chief Executive Officer. Rob?
spk01: Thank you, Todd. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. I'd like to start with a brief review of our third quarter results, then discuss what we're seeing now and what we expect going forward, before turning the call over to Peter to give more commentary on the financials. We're pleased to report strong revenue growth that exceeded our expectations for the third quarter, with increases both sequentially and year over year. Sales for the quarter came in just above $15 million, a sequential increase of 38% over the second quarter and up 60% from the same quarter last year. We continued to see signs of recovery in all markets and especially in the spend from the wireless carrier ecosystem, as evidenced by the two multi-million dollar orders that helped bring our backlog to $31.5 million at quarter end, the highest backlog in company history. These two sizable orders for our OptiFlex hybrid fiber cable solution were the latest follow-on orders from our new Tier 1 wireless carrier customer. These orders highlight the increasing demand for our product offerings as wireless carriers accelerate their network build-outs. As I mentioned on our last call, We'd never done direct business with this specific Tier 1 customer prior to last quarter, so I'd like to give kudos to our sales team, specifically our custom cable team at Cables Unlimited in Long Island, for breaking through and getting this moving. Our ability to deliver significant product to this customer is also opening up new opportunities with them and in the market overall. Looking at our total revenue for the third quarter, it's worth highlighting that only a few million dollars came from these recent Tier 1 carrier orders. reflecting a healthy recovery in our entire business. As I've said several times before, significant project wins like this layered on top of our higher sales run rate through both our core OEM customers and our strong distribution partners give us confidence that our combined product platform is a springboard for future revenue growth. Across the overall company, we've made an investment in our sales and business development organization over the past year, and we're pleased with the momentum that we're gaining. We're doing business on one product or another or multiple products with every one of the companies in the wireless tier one ecosystem. Some of this is direct and much of it runs through our distribution channels and related paths to market. We now have products of various types actively shipping into every wireless tier one carrier's network, as well as many of the largest tower and neutral host companies. While not all of these are meaningful dollars yet, We're talking to just about everybody in the carrier ecosystem at many levels as a result of our increased investment in sales. Looking at some of our product areas and market segments, our core distribution business remains healthy and diverse and continues to grow. Our RF coaxial cable and connector products and RC Enterprises fast-turn fiber products together make up our primary offer sold through distribution. As I've noted before, during the past few years, we have successfully strengthened and increased the diversity of our distribution channels, and this business continues to provide a solid, increasing baseline of sales. In our OEM and industrial markets, which are primarily serviced out of our Northeast facilities, we saw sales grow in the quarter and continue to see a return to more normalized levels. As a reminder, this business is another part of that increasing baseline of core revenue, that we can build on top of with large, long-term project wins. Turning to our small cell and DAC thermal cooling offerings, these are still huge opportunities that we expect will increase sales in the remainder of the year and beyond. Our ShropTech business, where these products reside, saw improved sales during the third quarter. The pipeline continues to build, and we have a strong backlog of orders. We have product actively shipping to several small cell players, as well as ongoing discussions regarding future deployments with others. We're starting field trials with a few large customers, and some smaller projects are also moving forward. But we still haven't seen the significant upside with this business that we expect will come. We continue to believe that a significant increase in spend around 5G infrastructure is not a matter of if, but rather a matter of when. And with both our offers, and our customer relationships were more strongly positioned now for long-term growth once the widespread rollout does occur. In addition, we continue to see a significant opportunity for our DAC thermal cooling offering, which plays in both traditional wireline and wireless carriers, as well as in market segments like cable operators and mobile edge computing providers. Our thermal cooling solutions enable us to offer a definitive value proposition centered on a better design and clear cost and energy savings, and is allowing us to initiate a different kind of sales conversation with a new set of customers. In addition to our current offerings, we've also been driving development of a full line of next-generation products for the small cell and DAC markets. Some of these new products are already in lab trials or field trials with multiple customers, and we expect to bring them to market more broadly in the next few quarters. Turning to M&A, as I've said before, we remain committed to M&A this year, and our plan is to make an acquisition of a much more meaningful size. While I have no specific update to share today, we continue to add to a growing pipeline of potential candidates and remain extremely active in our conversations. In summary, our core distribution business is healthy, diverse, and growing. Our core industrial and OEM segments are returning to growth with existing customers while also adding some nice new opportunities to the mix. We're seeing increased spend from the wireless carrier ecosystem, as evidenced by the multimillion-dollar orders for OptiFlex hybrid fiber solutions we received during the quarter and our increasing pipeline of opportunities. We're actively engaged with a majority of the Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 companies in the carrier ecosystem as a result of the investments in our go-to-market capabilities. We have the right products and a growing opportunity to expand further into this market with our enhanced product offerings. All of this has resulted in a record backlog, which gives us a nice tailwind in coming quarters. And we have a terrific balance sheet. So with our large backlog and continued sales momentum, we anticipate a strong finish to the fiscal year, with fourth quarter sales expected to come in higher than the third quarter and clearly exceeding our previous expectations. As a matter of fact, at this point in our current fiscal fourth quarter, with half the quarter to go, our year-to-date 2021 revenue already exceeds our full fiscal 2020 total revenue, which is great news. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Peter for a review and discussion of the financial results for the quarter. Peter?
spk02: Thank you, Rob, and good afternoon, everyone. As Rob mentioned, in Q3, we saw increased demand and positive momentum as business activity in our markets continued to improve. Sales in the third quarter at $15.3 million were up 38% sequentially and up 60% year over year. The increase in our third quarter revenue reflects improvement in all our product areas, including core distribution business, OEM business, and our project revenue from wireless carrier customers. As we noted in our earnings press release, Our third quarter financial results include the impact of approximately $800,000 in employee retention credits that we recognized. The majority of these employee retention credits positively impacted our cost of goods sold as they related to our production workers. Gross profit margin was 33%, which includes the impact of the ERC received during the quarter, excluding the impact of ERC. Gross profit margin was 28%. up from 27% in the preceding second quarter. While this represents a sequential improvement, we believe there is room to further increase our gross margins from improved product mix of our higher margin small-cell and DAC offerings. The pipeline for these particular products continues to grow, though, as we mentioned previously, we have not yet seen the expected revenue increases. Operating income was $1.2 million. which excludes the impact of the ERC. With the increase in sales that we experienced during the quarter, comparisons to the prior quarter were all favorable, whether looking at net income, EPS, or adjusted EBITDA, once we removed the impact of the ERC and PPP. Our balance sheet remained strong and included cash and cash equivalents of $12.6 million and working capital of $30.6 million at the end of the quarter. Although cash was down from the preceding quarter by $2.2 million, this is primarily due to the timing of accounts receivable collections as we saw our balance increase by $4.2 million. As well, the cash balance here does not yet include a portion of the ERC credit that we received. The receivable related to the ERC is included as part of our other current assets, which is approximately $2.8 million. We continue to see momentum build around new business as evidenced by our improved bookings and growth in our backlog in the quarter. At the end of Q3, backlog was a company record $31.5 million on third quarter bookings of $31.2 million. This is up from $15.6 million in backlog last quarter. Since quarter end, our backlog remains strong and currently stands at $27.2 million. We expect a strong finish to the fiscal year with fourth quarter sales above the third quarter and exceeding our previous expectations. That concludes my discussion. Operator, we're ready to take our first question.
spk00: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad at this time. If you're using a speakerphone, we ask that while posing your question, you pick up your handset to provide the best sound quality. Again, it is star one for any questions or comments at this time. We'll take our first question from Josh Nichols with B. Reilly. Your line is open, sir. Please go ahead.
spk05: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask a little bit. You kind of hit on gross margins. up quarter of a quarter even after you moved the ERC credit. Could you kind of, at a high level, talk about some of the gross margin differences between some of the product lines and what has to happen to kind of get gross margins back to, say, like 30-plus percent if we think over the next, like, quarter or two? And is something like that achievable?
spk01: Yeah. Hey, Josh, it's Rob. Thanks for the question. Yeah, so I think, you know, as a group, we – We look at that 30% margin as something that is not just let's get to that as a goal and get above it, but it's attainable as well. Really what it comes down to for us is product mix can have a meaningful impact. And I think when you look at the large dollar amount that's now shipping into the Tier 1 space, the margin profile of those products are more kind of consistent with our overall blended margins as a company. And the other thing that we generally look at is we have some higher margin items in our offer. The dollar amount, you know, sales-wise impact of those is lower than what we anticipated being to drag the blended margin up. So I think as we start to see things like our DAC offer and our small cell offer increase, Even some of the other product areas that we have that are slightly lower dollar amounts in total, as those start to improve and increase, it has the opportunity to drag our margins up. When we get into a large relationship, it could be the product mix, even within the hybrid fiber that we're shipping, different lengths, different breakouts of number of fibers and number of pieces of copper. Each of those has a different margin profile overall, so it can be even the mix within that product area. can have an impact. But I think our expectation is as we more consistently have higher sales, we think there's room to drive that up from a product mix perspective up to that 30% and above.
spk05: Great. And then, um, I just want to hit on a little bit about SG&A. I know you mentioned that you're investing a little bit more there. It looks like $3.5 million for the quarter. How should we think about that line item going forward? And I guess what investments have you made? What's pushing that number up?
spk01: Yeah, so the number this quarter in particular, you've got some stock comp in there that shouldn't be in there every quarter. So you've got a few hundred thousand dollars of stock comp in there that we had during the quarter, and then also just increased sales and reward comp around the higher sales number, both from a commission perspective but also on an annual accrual perspective. We're performing better, so setting some money aside for that as well. So I think you're not going to see a number as high as this typically, but it's really driven up just by the increased performance of the business and the related accruals and dollars that come with that. The only other thing is that a couple hundred thousand in stock comp in the quarter.
spk05: Thanks. And then just to touch on it, I mean, you've been looking at doing some M&A. You did a couple, right, I think a year or so ago, but not too much recent. Is there any type of timeline? Did you say that you'd look to to do a larger deal and expect that you're kind of far enough along to potentially get that completed by the end of say like this calendar year, or is it still too hard to put a timeline on that?
spk01: Yeah, I think that's the hope. It's hard to nail it down perfectly, but we got a lot of conversations going on. So I'm optimistic that something can still happen this calendar year. Timing doesn't always go exactly as you want, but I think that's the, that's certainly the hope and we're, we're extremely active. And, and I think that the, the quality of the deal flow is way up from where it's been, you know, over the last several months as well. So I feel good about it. It's hard to nail that timing exactly.
spk05: Thanks, Arha. Back in the queue.
spk01: Thanks, Josh.
spk00: Again, ladies and gentlemen, it was star one if you had a question or comment. We'll move next to Hal Granger at Great Quarter Research. Your line is open, sir. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you. Thank you for taking my question. Congratulations on your strong revenue growth in the quarter and also for a record backlog at the end of the quarter.
spk01: Thanks, Al.
spk04: Appreciate it. I wanted to ask a few questions about kind of the current conditions that you're finding in business that, for example, a big issue these days is supply chains and sourcing. How are you finding issues there, and how are you dealing with that?
spk01: Yeah, thanks, Al. That's a big topic, one that we watch very closely. And so far, we've managed it pretty well. I think the team's done a good job of keeping the supply chain rolling. We did, you know, going back to January of 20, I think we saw the future a little bit and tried to pre-buy some things that needed to come in from overseas to make sure we were ahead of that. And we've kind of stayed a step ahead on our purchase levels and And I wouldn't say it's given us a massive increase in inventory, but we're up a little bit partially because we've been buying earlier than we normally would to try to take the craziness out of that supply chain potential challenges. Now, with that said, a huge amount of our supply chain is U.S.-based, where we're buying from other U.S. providers locally. Uh, we've done a good job there as well. Obviously the increase in the hybrid fiber, uh, you've got copper prices, you've got, you know, supply on that, which our team has done a really good job of managing as well. So it's certainly out there. And I think we, you know, day to day, we have to watch it. We we've managed to work through it pretty well so far, but, um, I wouldn't say we're out of the woods. I think this is a, you know, every day and every week we kind of have to decide, is there something we need to stay ahead of? But, um, For the most part, with the passive materials that we're working with, we've managed to stay ahead of it and do okay.
spk04: Okay, great. Similarly with employees, when you're looking for new employees, are you finding difficulty finding employees, or what is your outlook for that if there are any changes in the future?
spk01: Yeah, I think a lot like every other company, there's a lot of wage pressure right now, and it's not just regionalized. It's really everywhere. We want to reward our team. We want to give them the best that we possibly can, especially when we look at our production teams and kind of the related production support folks. Those wage expectations have certainly gone up. If we can find people, which depending on the location, there is some constraints around finding a skilled workforce that we can bring in. When we do find them, they're a little more expensive maybe than they've been historically, which again is fine. It just We want to make sure we're getting good, skilled people and giving them an opportunity to learn and develop and grow into other things. And so I think the kind of mass media press on that is exactly right. We're experiencing exactly what you're reading about in any article. Just can you find people, and if you do, the expense of that is going up.
spk04: Okay, thanks. And lastly... Can you talk about COVID restrictions and how that landscape might be changing? Are you finding you now have access to venues that you didn't have access before so you can go ahead with completing work that previously you weren't able to complete?
spk01: On the venue-based project work, it hasn't all come back yet. I think while access to venues is more readily available, the spend related to that and the timing of those large projects, some of the stadiums have come back, not all of them. If we look at the projects that we had on an expected timeframe back in March of 2020, About half of those have come back. Not all of them came back at the exact same dollar level that we were anticipating either. So I think they will. I don't think there's a risk of these things not happening, but I would certainly feel like people are still slow rolling a little bit on some of these deployments to make sure they're able to understand the overall impact of COVID on the landscape and, you know, it's nice to see people back in stadiums. That's a big driver of these kinds of venue buildouts. What we haven't seen are the large office buildings return. That was another major thing where, you know, adding capacity and coverage into large office buildings and kind of related campuses. That hasn't come back just yet where the stadiums and some of the related facilities like that have. So I think they will, but it's certainly not back to the level that it was, you know, pre-pandemic.
spk04: Okay, great. Thank you very much, Rob.
spk01: Thanks, Al.
spk00: We'll go next to John Fitchthorn at Dialect Capital. Your line is open, sir. Please go ahead.
spk06: Yeah, hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First, just on the backlog, you know, are you delivering based on customer demand, and that's why you're carrying more, or is it your own limitations based on supply chain? You discussed that a little bit before, but what's really – And what's kind of your target backlog number? Should investors be looking for backlog growth or backlog depletion and over what time frame? Just give us some color on how you see that shaking out.
spk01: Sure. Yeah, I appreciate the question. Thanks, John. The primary driver of our backlog being drawn down or the timing of things shipping against it is customer demand when the customer wants something. We haven't really had a major issue with supply chain. I mean, there's some of it, but I think our expectations with our larger customers are we set accurate timelines in the discussions really early on and try to be open and honest about what capacity is going to be there. So it's less about our capacity, though, and availability and more about just hitting customer milestones that matches their build plan. So I think from the size of our backlog, you should expect it to come down from where it was. I mean, keeping it up in the 30s is a is an unlikely place for us to be over the long term. So you should expect it to draw down. But I think the exact number where it sits at the end of a quarter is a weird function of timing. We had never had a backlog north of 20 million. That was back in 2018. And prior to that, it had never been anywhere close to that. So having something up above 30 million says we're going to see it draw down over the course of time. If another round of orders were to come in, it could certainly pop back up in coming quarters. But if we're staying up in the $12 million to $15 million from a backlog perspective, that's a really healthy place to be. You get above that, and that allows us to drive some more I'll say systemic numbers where we can talk about them a little more readily over what the next few quarters look like. You get down 10 or 12 million in backlog, which is what we saw over the last few years, or even a little lower than that. It's way harder to predict because things come and go in there. So I think our hope is that we can keep that number up, obviously, as high as possible, balancing that against customer demand and when they want things done. But if you see a number of 15 million or above, you're going to hear us feel pretty good about that as a place to be.
spk06: Super. And as we look forward over the next 12 months, just in terms of growth drivers, should we be looking for you to sign up another big tier one customer? Is it going to more be on looking for DAC and small cell to drive it with a more diversified customer base? Just give us an idea of what we should be expecting to kind of hear from the company over the over the coming year if you guys are hitting your targets and where you see the growth coming from?
spk01: Sure, yes. I think the diverse, a slightly more diverse customer base is what we would expect to show the more meaningful growth. We need to see some other product areas pick up as well with DAC and small cell being big drivers just because they're bigger ticket items. Per site, you're talking $3,000, $5,000 kinds of things. The only other product area that we have like that is our hybrid fiber so that those product areas are ones where you can get into some bigger ticket items per unit and larger purchase orders that go with that. Those are the kinds of things that you'll see us communicate press releases on when there's large dollar amounts where we can predict the timeframe under which those are going to ship and which will help drive some of that. I think the additional piece is we're hopeful that we're performing well enough on the hybrid fiber side that there's more opportunity there, both with our existing customer, and there may be some others as well. Not every carrier builds with a hybrid fiber design as the backbone of their tower design. Those that do are aware of us. I think we're certainly on the right radar and having the right conversations. So we feel like there's opportunity there as well. Those would be the big areas on top of just an increasing core baseline of, you know, We were in the 40-plus million on that base of business. That's coming up as well. So with that increasing and then layering in the multiple product areas that we just talked about from a higher ticket item, that's the stuff you're going to hear from us to put up a bigger number.
spk06: Great. And last question. You know, the revenue growth is great, great to see, and it's certainly part of the equation, and as is gross margin. But really, you know, as a shareholder, we care most about earnings per share here. And just talk to us about how you guys think about that going forward in terms of whether it's product mix or customers or operating margins or whatever. And then secondarily, that same question with regards to M&A and kind of what your hurdle rate and discipline is on the deals you're looking at in terms of driving accretion.
spk01: Sure. Yeah, I appreciate that. So I think from a margin perspective and just an improvement of the overall financials, we agree with you. We love the revenue growth. We know that we see that first for a company of our size trying to come up market and get back to some meaningful growth. Love to see profitable revenue growth. Love to see increases in revenue. Predictability by having a backlog makes it a lot easier to manage some of those expenses that are tougher when you go through a major ramp-up as we've gone through. So most of what goes on in our business happens at the gross profit line. Below that, there's not a ton going on. We talked about a couple things earlier that sort of impacted our SG&A this past quarter. I think that that number is generally stable. It's really getting the product mix better and then executing to fully absorb our labor, which is a big piece that happens above that gross profit line. If we can get that number, every percentage point that comes up, now you're dropping $150,000 or $200,000 more straight through the entire model. We feel good about that. We think there are some opportunities to take some costs out in a few places over the coming couple of quarters. just combining some operations and finding some ways to maybe spend a little better. So we still believe we can get that operating line up there closer to 10% or a little better. As our sales go up, we think that's going to be a big driver of it. And relating that to M&A, We're kind of looking for the same thing. We like higher margin products, and obviously as you look at some of the bigger revenue lines on some of the deals that we're reviewing, the synergies become more readily available as well. So that's another piece. We're not going to rush to buy something because we have to. I recognize we have a great balance sheet and a lot of cash, and I think we could certainly stand to take on some leverage to go do some bigger deals, which we're prepared to do. We also are patient and know generally what we're looking for and want to buy the things that make sense for us. The bigger the deal, now you get into some real synergies. And that's not something we've been able to really benefit from in the couple of deals we've done in the last few years. A smaller deal, there's not a lot of things that you can remove from a redundancy perspective. as we're doing now. So I think that the two big drivers for us are, you know, being patient and looking at good quality businesses. We like higher margin items. We also like companies that, you know, can make money. While we've proven we can turn around businesses that need some help to get moving, I think we're also at a point where you look at some of these bigger deals, we're not willing to take major risks around that either. Let's be diligent and smart and patient to deploy capital in the right way. And, you know, it's proven so far at least that we can make some good things happen from that in a normalized operating environment.
spk06: That's great. And if patient equals be disciplined on the price you pay, then I completely agree and appreciate all of those thoughts. And thank you very much. Good luck.
spk01: Thank you, John. I appreciate it. Thank you.
spk00: One final reminder, ladies and gentlemen, it is star 1 if you had a question or comment. Again, star 1 for any questions. And at this time, I do not have any other questions that have signaled. I will turn the conference back to management for any additional or closing comments.
spk01: Great. Thank you, Jess. And thanks, everyone, for joining our call today. We really appreciate your support of RF Industries. Peter and I look forward to reporting our fourth quarter and full year results in December. Thank you again, and have a great day.
spk00: Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude the RF Industries third quarter fiscal 2021 financial results conference call. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at this time, and have a great day.
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