5/9/2024

speaker
Chach
Moderator

Hello and welcome to the Royal Gold 2024 First Quarter Conference. My name is Chach and I'll be your moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I'd now like to pass the conference over to your host, Alistair Baker, to begin. Alistair, please go ahead.

speaker
Alistair Baker
Host

Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to our discussion of Royal Gold's first quarter 2024 results. This event is being webcast live and a replay of this call will be available on our website. Speaking on the call today are Bill Heisenbuttel, President and CEO, Martin Raffield, Senior Vice President of Operations, and Paul Lindner, Senior Vice President and CFO. Randy Shuffman, Senior Vice President and General Counsel, and Dan Brees, Senior Vice President Corporate Development of RGAG, are also available for questions. During today's call, we will make four looking statements, including statements about our projections and expectations for the future. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in yesterday's press release and our filings with the SEC. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted net income, adjusted net income per share, and adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations of these measures to the most direct and comparable gap measures are available in yesterday's press release, which can be found on our website. Bill will start with an overview of the quarter. Martin will give some commentary on the portfolio, and Paul will provide a financial update. After the formal remarks, we'll open the lines for a Q&A session. I'll now turn the call over to Bill.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Good morning, and thank you for joining the call. I'll begin on slide four. We had a good start to the year with revenue of $149 million, operating cash flow of $138 million, and earnings of $47 million, or 72 cents per share. After adjustments, earnings were 91 cents per share. Revenue was 75% gold and 88% precious metals as we continued to focus our business development efforts on these metals, and we generated 53% of revenue from the U.S., Canada, and Australia. Our adjusted EBITDA margin remained strong and steady at 79% for the quarter. And with the record high gold price providing a strong tailwind, we were able to significantly reduce our debt and increase available liquidity. We repaid $100 million outstanding on a revolving credit facility and ended the quarter with almost a billion dollars of total liquidity. As previously disclosed, during the quarter, we entered into an additional agreement with Sentara to provide long-term cost support at Mount Milligan in return for near-term cash and future gold consideration and a future free cash flow royalty. This allowed an immediate two-year extension to the mine life to 2035 and provides the incentive for Sentara to continue to invest in the long-term future and maximize the value of the large mineral endowment around the mine. Sentara is working on a PEA to evaluate opportunities to extend the mine life beyond 2035 and we look forward to the results when it is completed in the first half of 2025. We also have a new operating partner at ComiCow with the completion of the acquisition of ComiCow by MMG in March. Recall that we provided a $25 million loan facility to the previous owner during the development of ComiCow that accrued in capitalized interest at a rate of LIBOR plus 11%. This facility was repayable upon a change of control and we received total proceeds of $37 million, including principal and capitalized interest. With these proceeds, the upfront cash payment from Sentara on the Milligan transaction, and continued strong cash flow, we have made additional revolver repayments of $75 million since the end of the quarter, bringing our outstanding revolver balance down to $75 million. We are well positioned to repay the remainder of the balance during the third quarter, absent new investment opportunities. Maintaining a strong balance sheet is one of our core strategic objectives as it allows us to act quickly when attractive business development opportunities arise. We paid our quarterly dividend of 40 cents per share, a 7% increase over the previous quarter, marking the start of a 23rd straight year of paying an increased dividend. And finally, we issued our first asset handbook shortly after quarter end. And by the end of the week, we expect to publish our investment stewardship report which is our reimagined publication that covers ESG risks and a separate climate report. All of these documents are currently or will be available on our website. These publications take an enormous effort from a staff that is limited in size, and I want to thank them for their efforts in preparing these reports. I hope you find them helpful in your review of our company. I'll now turn the call over to Martin to provide some comments on the portfolio.

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Martin Raffield
Senior Vice President of Operations

Thanks, Bill. Turning to slide five, I'll give some comments on first quarter revenue. Overall revenue for the quarter was $149 million with volume of 71,900 GEOs. Our royalty segment contributed $46 million, about 31% of the total revenue for the quarter. Royalty revenue was down about 16% from the prior year quarter, mostly due to a lower contribution from the quarter's legacy zone, as expected, partially offset by higher contributions from the Cortez CC zone than Penasquito. Revenue from our stream segment was $103 million, down by about 11% from last year. Lower contributions from Mount Milligan and Pueblo Viejo were partially offset by higher revenue from Zaventina and Wasa. I'll turn to slide six and give some comments on notable developments at our principal properties. At Mount Milligan, as Bill mentioned, the PEA is underway to evaluate opportunities to extend the mine life beyond 2035. This includes a review of tailings expansion options, exploration drilling on a number of targets near the existing pit, and a site optimization program that began late last year. Sentera believes the large mineral endowment at Mount Milligan has the potential to provide significant extensions to the mine life. At Pueblo Viejo, Barrick reported last week that the plant expansion construction is complete and that the all stockpile feed conveyor reconstruction was completed in April. They are now working on increasing production from the crashing and milling circuits and improving operational stability and recovery in the flotation circuits. An additional 123,000 ounces of silver was deferred during the quarter due to low recoveries. We expect the focus on the flotation circuit performance will improve silver recovery, but we also expect this work will take some time and that the delivery of our deferred silver ounces will depend on the outcome. At Cortez, Barrick announced the official opening of the new gold rush mine. Barrick expects to ramp up production from 130,000 ounces this year to reach commercial production in 2026. Barrick is targeting a 24-year mine life and average annual production of about 400,000 ounces by 2028. Barrick also reported last week that production at Cortez was on plan for the first quarter, and they maintain their total Cortez production guidance of 620 to 680,000 ounces for 2024. We expect about a third of this will come from the Crossroads area, where we have an effective growth royalty rate of approximately 9.4%, with a remainder coming from areas where our effective growth royalty rate is approximately 1.6%, including Gold Rush. Last year, those percentages were more heavily weighted towards our legacy zone and the higher royalty rate. Turning to slide seven, at Andakoya, Tech has reported that drought conditions are continuing to cause water restrictions. Tech is assessing steps to mitigate these water restriction risks and expects a solution to be in place in 2025. Gold production guidance for 2024 is between 18,000 and 24,000 recovered ounces. Apenasquito operations have returned to normal after last year's labour strike. Newmont reported that stripping of the Pinyasco pit was delayed due to the strike, but it expects all production from Pinasco to increase later this year and into next year. As a result, gold production is expected to be weighted 60% to the second half of the year with continued strong silver, lead, and zinc production from the Chile, Colorado pit. At ComiCal, the ownership transition to MMG is now complete. MMG is a publicly listed company, so we expect public disclosure of developments will be significantly improved. Kamikawa is expecting payable silver production of 1.2 to 1.4 million ounces for 2024. This is lower than the life of mine average silver production of 1.8 to 2 million ounces per year, but it is in line with the mine plan, which has a top-down mining sequence with lower grades in the upper portion of the deposit. And finally, first gold was poured in the first quarter at Mara Rosa in Brazil and Cote Gold in Ontario, which are our newest producing properties. We also saw continued progress towards full production at King of the Hills and Bellevue Mines in Western Australia, and we expect to see first production from Manchow in Alaska early in the third quarter of the year. I'll now turn the call over to Paul for a review of our financial results.

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Paul Lindner
Senior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Martin. I'll now turn to slide eight and get an overview of the financial results for the quarter. For this discussion, I'll be comparing the quarter ended March 31, 2024 to the prior year quarter. Revenue was down 13% to $149 million for the quarter. We had a strong first quarter of 2023. In fact, it was the second highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company. And as Martin mentioned in his remarks, lower contributions from Mount Milligan, Pueblo Viejo, and the Cortez Legacy Zone were the main drivers for the lower revenue in the current quarter. The lower contributions from these properties were partially offset by higher contributions from Wausau and Zaventina, as well as higher average gold and silver prices. Gold and silver were up 10% and 4% respectively, while copper was down 5% over the prior period. As Bill mentioned, gold continues to be the dominant revenue source, making up 75% of our total revenue for the quarter, followed by silver at 13% and copper at 9%. Royal Gold has the highest gold revenue percentage compared to our major peers in the royalty and streaming sector. Turning to slide nine, I'll provide a bit more detail on the specific line items for the quarter. G&A expense increased slightly to $11.4 million from $11 million in the prior year quarter. The slight increase was due to higher corporate costs and non-cash stock compensation expense. Although we did see a small increase over the prior year, our cash G&A costs remained low as an overall percentage of total revenue. Our D&A expense decreased to $39 million from $46 million in the prior year. On a unit basis, this expense was $539 per GEO for the quarter, compared to $514 per GEO in the prior year. The higher DNA per unit was mostly due to lower GEOs sold in the current period. The lower overall depletion expense, however, was due to a decrease in our Mount Milligan gold depletion rate from $425 to $371 per ounce, as well as a decrease in copper and gold sales from Mount Milligan and lower production from the Cortez legacy zones. Interest expense decreased nearly 50% to $4.6 million for the quarter. The decrease was primarily due to lower average amounts outstanding on the revolving credit facility. The all-in interest rate for outstanding borrowings on our credit facility was 6.5% at the end of March. Tax expense for the quarter was $27 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of 36.4%. This compares to tax expense of $15.9 million and an effective tax rate of 19.9% in the prior year. The higher tax expenses quarter was due to a one-time discrete tax expense of $13 million related to consideration received from the Mount Milligan cost support agreement. Excluding the discrete item, our effective tax rate for the quarter was approximately 19%, which is in line with the prior year period and our expectations for the full year. Net income for the quarter was down over the prior year to $47 million or 72 cents per share. The decrease in net income was due to lower revenue and the discrete tax item I just mentioned. After adjusting for the discrete tax item and a small change in the fair value of equity securities, net income for the quarter was $60 million or $0.91 per share. Our operating cash flow was a record this quarter at $138 million and up 27% over the prior year period. Operating cash flow for the current quarter included payments of $24.5 million as part of the Mount Milligan Cost Support Agreement and $12 million in capitalized interest received as part of the ComiCal loan facility repayment. And the strong cash flow does not even include the $25 million we received as repayment of principal on the ComiCal loan, which is recorded under cash from investing activities. I'd like to take a moment now to explain the accounting treatment of the Mount Milligan Cost Support Agreement. When we entered into the agreement, we received a cash payment, the commitment by Centera to deliver 50,000 ounces of gold in the future, and a free cash flow interest. With respect to the value of the cash consideration and the free cash flow interest, these have been recorded as a $25 million deferred support liability on the balance sheet. This amount will be amortized on units of production basis over the Mount Milligan mine life, beginning with the first cost support payment made, which we expect will be around 2030. With respect to the deferred gold consideration, when the gold is received, we will bring these ounces onto our balance sheet at fair market value. When the ounces are subsequently sold or upon receipt of the gold prior to any sell, we expect the value will also be recorded within the deferred support liability and amortized on a units of production basis as we provide future cost support over the mine life at Mount Milligan. It is important to note that when we subsequently sell the deferred gold ounces, the proceeds will be recognized within other operating income and not recognized as royalty or stream revenues. Upon delivery of the deferred gold ounces, we anticipate selling the gold over a few days to a week following delivery. Finally, proceeds from the sale of the deferred gold ounces will be recognized as operating cash flow. I will now turn to slide 10 and provide a summary of our financial position as of March 31st. During the quarter, we repaid $100 million on our revolving credit facility and reduced the amount drawn to $150 million, bringing our total available liquidity to $966 million as of March 31st. Further, using the cash received as part of the ComaCal loan repayment in late March, as well as our cash on hand, we made an additional revolver payment of $25 million on April 8th and another $50 million payment yesterday, leaving us with $75 million outstanding and $925 million undrawn and available. Absent significant business development activity, and as cash flow allows, we expect to fully repay our remaining revolver balance by sometime early in the third quarter. We have no material financial commitments outstanding. However, I will note that we made a small advance payment of $1.1 million to Arrow Copper as part of the success-based payment for resource additions at Zaventina. There are potentially up to $3.3 million of further success-based payments to Arrow that remain through the end of 2024. That concludes my comments on our financial position for the quarter, and I will now turn the call back to Bill for closing comments.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Thanks, Paul. Our first quarter was as expected, and I'm pleased to see our strong margins continue to produce solid cash flow so that we can reduce our outstanding revolver balance so quickly. Our balance sheet is in great shape, and we have excellent liquidity available to take advantage of business development opportunities that may present themselves. Before we wrap up, I want to highlight a change we made in our disclosure this quarter to improve transparency with respect to our performance compared to guidance. We've included a new table, Table 3, in our press release that shows our 2024 sales guidance and actual sales through the end of the quarter. This replaces a table that showed operator guidance and production for our principal properties, which is less helpful for a reader who is trying to track Royal Gold's performance. You can see that we're tracking well so far with respect to sales guidance for the year, and we'll update this table every quarter as we move through the year. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. I'll now open the line for questions.

speaker
Chach
Moderator

Thank you, Bill. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad now. If you change your mind, please press star followed by 2. When preparing to ask a question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. That's star 1 to ask a question. Our first question today comes from Cosmos Chu from CIBC. Please go ahead.

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Cosmos Chu
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hi. Thanks, Bill and team. Maybe my first question is on, again, the discrete tax expense related to the cost support agreement tax. Paul, I think you confirmed that this is a one-time item, so we're not going to see a recurring item again later on in future quarters. My other question is, is there an actual cash impact to this expense? Maybe not today, but over time? Like, how should we look at this $12.98 million?

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Hey, Cosworth.

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Paul Lindner
Senior Vice President and CFO

Yeah. Thanks for the question, and good afternoon. Yeah. So, Cosworth, this was a unique transaction. whereby the book and the tax accounting differed. So under the U.S. income inclusion rules for tax purposes, the value of that consideration that we received when we entered into the transaction, it was immediately taxable, and that's that $13 million that was taxed at the guilty rate. That is a one-time, as you asked. So, again, that value of that consideration that we received during the transaction, again, for tax purposes, was roughly $125 million. So going forward, if when we receive the value, or when we see the gold in the future, the deferred ounces, if the value of that gold, you know, should increase significantly, then we would have some additional, you know, cash taxes that we tax that guilty rate in the future. But also having said that, if that value of the gold should go down, then we would also have a tax benefit potentially. Great.

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Cosmos Chu
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

And then maybe my other question is on the ComaCout. As you talked about, Bill, you know, there's a new operator in town now. Have you had a chance to meet the new operator? And what are your impressions so far?

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Yeah, Cosmos, we've had a chance to meet him a couple of times, both over the phone, but also in person. You know, look, I'm impressed by the folks that we've met. But, you know, the relationship is sort of in the earlier stages. And, you know, looking forward to further developing that relationship. So, I don't have any concerns, if that's your question, about MMG and the plans for the project and how they plan on treating us.

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Cosmos Chu
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks once again, Bill and team. Those are all the questions I have.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Thanks, Cosmos.

speaker
Chach
Moderator

The next question is from Tanya Jakuskanet from Scotchia Bank. Please go ahead.

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Tanya Jakuskanet
Analyst, Scotiabank

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I have two. I just wanted to start by saying a lot of your, you know, we had the investor day, so a lot of detail was provided in the investor day, but I thought maybe someone could walk us through the rest of the portfolio, your smaller royalties and and streams and others and kind of give us a little bit of a, you know, a lookout into how, you know, these could add in the next sort of, you know, five years or so. We have the big mines, so those ones we have a better idea, but there's a lot of smaller ones, and so it would be helpful to know what those could contribute.

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Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Thanks, Tanya. I might turn that over to Martin. I will say we don't spend a lot of time on some of the smaller ones, but Martin, I don't know if there are a few things you could share, particularly about maybe some of the newer ones like Cote and Mararosa.

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Martin Raffield
Senior Vice President of Operations

Yeah, thanks for the question, Tanya. You know, looking forward towards the end of this year, I think we are expecting things to strengthen as we go towards the end of 24 and 25. And, you know, we are expecting PV to ramp up. We're expecting Penn Mosquito to have improved gold production. We're expecting gold rush to ramp up. So those are key in our forward-looking side. But we do have some of our smaller operations that are also coming online. So Manchot. Ken Ross reported yesterday that that project is going well. They have started deal haulage over to the Fort Knox site. So we're looking to that to start up early in Q3 and to start receiving revenue there over the next few years. The Cote ramp up has started. They pulled first gold on March 31st. So that is moving ahead. They're looking to get to commercial production in Q3. And Mara Rosa, they produced their first gold on February the 21st and they're looking to ramp up to commercial production over the next few weeks. So they're looking in the longer term or in the short term in 2024, 83,000 to 93,000 ounces and then ramping up to 100,000 ounces over the first four years of operation. So those ones are going well. The other ones that I would mention are probably Bellevue. Very good exploration results out of Bellevue and good definition drilling results over the past quarter. So, we're expecting good things there over the next few years. So, those are the ones that jumped to mind, Tanya.

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Tanya Jakuskanet
Analyst, Scotiabank

Yeah, it's just, you know, the operators are well covered. I was kind of thinking more of some of the smaller ones, but we could take it offline. And I knew a couple of years ago you had talked about some of these smaller ones contributing anywhere between 10 and 25,000 GEOs or thereabouts. Obviously, some of them are in here. I was just kind of wondering if there was, you know, some smaller ones beyond the ones you just mentioned now that we should be thinking about that would contribute above and beyond these ones.

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Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

We can take it offline. Yeah, we can take it offline. And if there are any specific assets you're looking at, we'd be happy to respond. Just want to hit the ones you're interested in. Yeah, specific ones.

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Tanya Jakuskanet
Analyst, Scotiabank

Yeah. Yeah, just because those ones we cover already from the operator, so we kind of well know those ones and those are already in our models. I'm just wondering maybe there are some smaller ones that, you know, we can get to. But we'll take it offline. Okay. My second question is just on the transaction environment, if I could. You know, every call I ask every company what they're seeing out there. I asked again, I know in the investor day, but I wanted to circle back because it's very dynamic. So I wanted to hear from you again today, you know, what are you seeing size-wise for deals? Hopefully by now new months have put and opened the data room for these Newcrest and other assets for sale. So just wanted to see, you know, size-wise, understand whether it's still, you know, mine bills, you know, financing, balance sheet repairs. And then I want to understand the structure of the deals, whether you're focused mainly on, you know, just wealthy streams, or would you also look at equity and or debt components? So that would be helpful. Thank you.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Sure. Lots to unpack there. I'm going to turn this over to Dan. The one comment I would say is we're not going to comment on anything specific that we might be looking at, but Dan can certainly give you a feel for what we're seeing.

speaker
Dan Brees
Senior Vice President, Corporate Development

Sure, Bill. Hi. Good morning, Sonia. Thanks for the question. And I think you've heard this from some of our peers probably already with their comments. The pipeline is pretty complex. robust at the moment. I think that's the best way to describe it. We're quite busy right now with reviews on a number of opportunities. And I think the higher commodity prices are really starting to settle in, Tanya, and I think that's moving projects forward. And I think we're seeing the equity markets really opening up and that source of capital is coming into the sector and that's helping projects move forward as well. And I think as we look at the debt markets, and thinking out and looking at where interest rates are and where they might remain elevated for a while, I think that's also going to keep counterparties interested with looking at other sources of capital like royalties and streams. So I always tell you that the size range, Tonya, is the $100 million to $300 million level. I think that's broadly fair still here. We are aware of a few larger opportunities in the markets. And I think it's fair to say that those opportunities are generally related to improving balance sheets and liquidity and so forth, mainly over base metal assets. So we would be looking at byproduct precious metals in those cases. But I'd also just mention, you know, you heard from Paul in his comments on our liquidity, and we have lots of internal liquidity with almost a billion dollars to to look at those kinds of transactions as well. So we feel pretty good about the market. On the smaller end, it's still very busy for us. I mentioned the equity opening up a little bit, but there are some interesting sub $100 million type opportunities, earlier stage projects and whatnot that we're looking at as well. So hopefully that gives you a little bit of flavor from our side with what we're seeing.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Yes, thank you for that. Yeah, and let me just complete the last part of your question, which was, you know, doing equity in debt. And I think we've been pretty consistent. We're relatively open to it. It's not our core business. We wouldn't earn, you know, our valuation premium on a debt investment or an equity investment. At the same time, if the prize is – the stream is a very large percentage of an overall financing package where we can provide all of those things. We're certainly open to it. You've seen us do debt at ComiCo and WASA. So, certainly wouldn't close the door on it and say we're not going to play in those markets, but the stream's got to be the prize. Okay.

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Tanya Jakuskanet
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, thank you so much for taking my questions. I will let somebody else ask. Thank you so much.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Thanks, Tanya.

speaker
Chach
Moderator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press Start, followed by 1 on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Brian MacArthur from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Just back to Cosmos' question about the tax. So if I understand this right, you paid $13 million in tax on the $25 million cash payment from Centera. Is that all cash? And secondly, why is the tax rate so high on that? Paul, I'm going to hand that right back to you.

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Paul Lindner
Senior Vice President and CFO

Yeah, no, and it's a fair question. And again, this really goes back to that the accounting and the tax on this transaction, it was unique, and it was unique in the sense that that the treatments differed. So for U.S. income tax purposes, the U.S. income inclusion rules, the value of the consideration that we've received when we entered into the transaction, that was immediately taxable. And again, the consideration that we received was the $24.5 million, the value of the 50,000 deferred gold ounces, as well as the free cash flow interest. So when we took that entire value, which the majority of that was the the value of the deferred gold, which I think was roughly $2,000 an ounce when we entered into the transaction. That's about $100 million. So that's $125 million. So then you apply the guilty rate to that, which is that 13%, and that gets you roughly to that $13 million that we paid in taxes there in Q1.

speaker
Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

And that was all cash?

speaker
Paul Lindner
Senior Vice President and CFO

Correct.

speaker
Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Not deferred or anything, so you don't – okay. Correct, yeah.

speaker
Paul Lindner
Senior Vice President and CFO

Yeah. And then as I mentioned to Cosmos, you know, going into the future, again, that value of that deferred gold, it could go up. And if that happens, then at a future date when we receive the delivery of those gold ounces, we could pay that same cash tax, you know, the guilty rate of 13% in the future. But on the flip side, again, too, if that value should go down, then we could see a cash tax benefit come through.

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Okay, but we're talking all cash to this, not just book accounting. Correct. Okay. My second question, and maybe this is better offline, it talks about you've got to, you know, the cash consideration of, and then the cash flow interest received, the $25 million. You know, why is it $0.5 million for that free cash flow interest? I assume that's calculated on an NPV basis post-2030 or something. But on the offset of that, you might have to make cost component support payments. So, like, if it's too complicated, we'd take it offline. But, like, I just not quite sure I understand where those values came from. And the reason I ask is I'm still trying to figure out the value of the deal, right? Because there's, you know, if it's cash tax payments, it changes what the value of the deal is.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Yeah, Brian, let me just focus on the pre-cash flow royalty a little bit. Okay, that was, as I called it when I asked for it, it's idiot insurance, right? The metal prices go up so high, they didn't actually need our cost support. The mine would have been fine, and we didn't need to change anything. And so all we wanted was something that says if the metal prices go up really, really high, and this thing's making cash flow, is cash flowing, I want to share in it even to a small amount. And it's carried, we don't have to contribute to cost. It's not a joint venture interest, or anything like that. And I will say that, you know, when we were doing our calculation, at the time, and at the prices, the long term prices we were using, there just wasn't a lot of free cash flow that we thought might be there. And so we really heavily discounted it. And we just came up with a value of $500,000. Now, at today's price, you know, it's probably worth more. But it's pretty far in the future because you get to 2030, they've got to be thinking about expanding the tailoring storage facility. There are going to be costs that will be incurred that would get deducted from any free cash flow interest. So, you know, it was something I wanted just so we didn't look kind of dumb for giving up something today if we didn't need to five or six years from now.

speaker
Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

No, it makes sense to me. In fact, I was trying to think about it the other way, because if you extend the mine through the 2040 or 50 or 60, then doesn't that thing become quite valuable?

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

It could be. But all we've got right now is a two-year extension of reserves, and they're working on a PEA. So that might be a conversation to have when the PEA comes out.

speaker
Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Right. Okay. So that was kind of calculated in 2035, I guess. Okay. That helps a lot. Thanks very much, Bill. That clears it up. Thank you. Thanks, Brian.

speaker
Chach
Moderator

Thank you. As a final reminder, if you'd like to ask any questions, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad now. We currently have no further questions, so I'd like to hand back to Bill Heisenbottle to conclude.

speaker
Bill Heisenbuttel
President and CEO

Well, thanks, everyone, for taking the time to join us today. We certainly appreciate your interest in Royal Gold, and we look forward to updating you on our progress during the next quarterly call. Take care.

speaker
Chach
Moderator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your line.

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