Renasant Corporation

Good morning and welcome to the Renaissance Corporation 2024 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star then zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kelly Hutchison, Chief Accounting Officer with Renaissance Corporation. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Renaissance Corporation's 2024 Quarterly Webcast and Conference Call. Participating in this call today are members of Renaissance Executive Management Team. Before we begin, please note that many of our comments during this call will be forward-looking statements, which involve risk and uncertainty. There are many factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the anticipated results or other expectations expressed in the forward-looking statements. Such factors include, but are not limited to, changes in the mix and cost of our funding sources, interest rate fluctuation, regulatory changes, portfolio performance, and other factors discussed in our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our recently filed earnings release, which has been posted to our corporate site, www.renaissance.com at the Press Releases link under the News and Market Data tab. We undertake no obligation and we specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events, or changes to future operating results over time. In addition, some of the financial measures that we may discuss this morning are non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release. And now, I will turn the call over to our Executive Vice Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mitch Waycaster.

Thank you, Kelly. Results for the quarter showed solid progress. The balance sheet remained strong, led by growth in traditional deposits that funded an increase in loans. Asset quality metrics continue to reflect our strong credit culture, and credit reserves remain at historically high levels. The income statement reflects ongoing work on expense control and margin stabilization. After the quarter, we announced the sale of Renasant Insurance. Renasant Insurance has been a valued part of the company for a long time. While we felt market conditions made this an attractive move for our shareholders, we look forward to maintaining a relationship with our former colleagues going forward. The financial impact of the sale will be reflected in third quarter results. I will now turn the call over to Kevin.

Thank you, Mitch. Looking at our second quarter results, our earnings were $38.9 million, or 69 cents per diluted share. Recall in the first quarter, we sold a portion of our mortgage servicing rights asset for a gain of $3.5 million, and we recognized a $56,000 gain on the extinguishment of debt. Excluding these items, our earnings per share in the second quarter increased 5 cents on a linked quarter basis. Loan yields increased 11 basis points quarter over quarter, which when coupled with solid loan growth, drove an increase of $6 million in loan interest income during the second quarter from the first quarter. Deposits continue to perform well. Traditional retail deposits increased just over $200 million from the first quarter, which afforded us the opportunity to allow $184 million in broker deposits to mature. Included in that retail deposit growth was $23 million in growth in non-intra-sparing deposits. Our business model is built on relationship banking, and our team has done a tremendous job executing on this strategy with a goal of funding loan growth with core deposit growth. Pricing for deposits remains competitive throughout our footprint, and although deposit interest expense has continued to increase, the pace of increase slowed this quarter, with total deposit costs increasing 12 basis points during the quarter. The continued hard work in managing our deposit base was especially rewarded in the second quarter as non-interest income increased on a linked quarter basis for the first time since Q1 of 23. Reported non-interest income declined $2.6 million from the first quarter, excluding the aforementioned gains on the sale of MSR assets and the extinguishment of debt in the first quarter. Adjusted non-interest income increased $900,000 quarter over quarter. Income from our mortgage division, excluding the MSR gain in the first quarter, increased $1.8 million on a linked quarter basis, which was driven by an increase in interest rate lock volume of $116 million, offset to some degree by a decline in gain on sale margin of nine basis points. Reported non-interest expense decreased $1 million from the first quarter, In the first quarter of 24, we recorded expense of $700,000 related to the FDIC special assessment, and we also made contributions totaling $1.1 million to certain charitable organizations which qualify as tax credits. After adjusting for these items, non-interest expense increased approximately $800,000 from the first quarter. The increase in mortgage volumes resulted in higher levels of expense in that division, which were somewhat offset by savings in other areas. I will now turn the call over to Jim.

Thank you, Kevin. As we walk through the quarter's results, I will reference slides from the earnings deck. Total footings grew $164 million. Loan growth in the second quarter was $104 million and represents an annual growth rate of 3.5%. We experienced another quarter of strong core deposit growth, which allowed us to continue to shift away from non-core funding sources. As you can see on slides 6 and 7, the company's core deposit base and overall liquidity position remain strong. The deposit base is diverse and granular. And with the strong core deposit growth, our loans-to-deposit ratio remains steady at 88%. Referencing slide 8, all regulatory capital ratios are in excess of required minimums to be considered well capitalized, and each of these ratios improved from the prior quarter. Turning to asset quality, we recorded a credit loss provision of $3.3 million. Net charge-offs were $5.5 million, which was primarily comprised of a single credit, and the ACL as a percentage of total loans declined two basis points to 1.59%. Asset quality metrics are presented on page 9. Our criticized loans declined quarter over quarter, while non-performing assets ticked up. We remain vigilant in monitoring credit risk. Our strategy is to identify potential losses early and work quickly towards resolution in order to mitigate loss. Our profitability metrics are presented on slides 10 and 11. Excluding one-time items, adjusted pre-provision net revenue increased $3.6 million on a linked quarter basis, driving an increase in all other profitability metrics as well. Turning to slide 12, adjusted net interest margin, which excludes purchase accounting accretion and interest recoveries, was 3.29%, which represents an increase of one basis point from the first quarter. Core deposit growth coupled with diligent loan pricing drove the increase in both net interest income and net interest margin quarter over quarter. We continue to focus on growing our core deposit funding base and being diligent in pricing on both the asset and liability sides of the balance sheet. Kevin commented on the highlights within non-interest income and expense. While the sale of the insurance agency will impact these categories beginning in the third quarter, we don't expect a material impact at the bottom line. I will now turn the call back over to Mitch.

Thank you, Jim. Results through the first six months form a good foundation to build upon. We are excited about the future and believe opportunities to add relationships, market share, and scale in southeastern markets will enable us to grow shareholder value in the years ahead. I will now turn the call over to the operator.

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Steven Skelton with Pepper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good morning. Thanks, everyone. I guess maybe I'm curious first from a capital perspective kind of if there's any specific plans with the incremental capital from the insurance sale and kind of what your overall capital priorities might be today, whether that's organic growth, you know, new hires, things of that nature, or maybe even potentially M&A.

Good morning, Stephen. This is Jim. Yes, we're going to book in Q3 about a $36 million gain from the sale of the insurance company. A couple of points I'd want to make about that before I go to your question. I would say, of course, it was an important part of the company, but in terms of dollars, it's obviously not as big as what we've seen elsewhere in the industry. The impact of that sale will be very slightly different negative to EPS for the second half of the year. Again, very slightly, but mostly negative to EPS. The other thing I want to point out is the tax rate in Q3 that you'll see because of that gain will be slightly elevated from what it historically is. So, something around 23% versus, say, a normal rate of 22%. So, not much difference, but you'll see a slight difference there. As it relates to the use of those, to the capital gain, I think our priorities remain the same. First and foremost, we want to target that capital or any incremental capital through retained earnings or a sale like this to capitalize organic growth, and that's priority number one. And as you said, whether that's lift-outs or organic growth, that's priority number one. I'd say priority number two would be M&A. You know, we don't know when or if that's going to return, but if it does, we'd certainly like to participate And that would be a good use of that capital as well. We don't envision near-term, you know, going the route of buybacks. We don't take that off the table, but don't envision that in near-term.

Okay. Very helpful. And then maybe just thinking about the NIM trends from here, still obviously don't know exactly what the Fed's going to do and what the curve's going to look like, but Do you still kind of think if we get the first couple rate cuts that the margin can kind of remain stable, especially based on the relative stability you're seeing on the deposit cost side of things this quarter?

I think, I mean, we, you know, I guess since the start of the year, we've assumed sort of a flat rate environment. And that's still how we're, you know, managing and thinking about the balance sheet. But if we get that, let's say we get a 25 basis point cut in September, I don't In terms of EPS, I don't see it impacting Q3. And again, maybe very modestly impacting Q4, but it would be slightly negative, Stephen. In terms of the margin, I would say that our outlook would be, again, in a flat right environment, our outlook for the margin is roughly flat for the balance of the year.

Okay, great. And maybe just lastly for me, I mean, credit metrics ticked up a little bit, but still remain stable. and your reserve is obviously strong. I think when we spoke at Gulf South earlier this year, you guys noted that you really weren't all that concerned about maybe some of the CRE exposure, but your internal team was maybe a little more focused on RESI exposure. Is there anything to note there around RESI or anything? Is that just on a relative basis for you, or is there anything to note there that gives you any concern?

Steven, good morning. This is David. In this quarter, our changes in asset quality mix wasn't a result of anything in our residential portfolio. That remains a heightened area of concern for us, just as far as watching it, just like all assets are banked. But the change in asset quality was not residential. It was what we saw as far as an increase in MPAs was 100% direct loans we had to our commercial customers that are out there that we've been working with those customers for a while. In large, we just felt like it was time to go ahead and move on those assets when you start to see concerns about valuation of some of the collateral underlying those loans. We figured it's best to go ahead and move on those assets, and whether it be a note sale or foreclosure, just to go ahead and try to remedy those and get them out of the way. But it was not due to residential for this quarter.

Yeah, very helpful. Thank you all for the time and the color this morning. Appreciate it.

Thank you, Stephen.

The next question comes from Michael Rose with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. How are you?

Good morning, Michael.

Good morning. Hey, Mitch, maybe we can just start, as you normally do, just kind of an update on the pipeline and, you know, sorry if I missed it, but, you know, what you guys are kind of contemplating for – for loan growth as we move here, both from a production standpoint and also if you would expect a decrease in paydowns as we move forward, particularly if, you know, rates don't come down. Thanks.

Sure. I'll begin with pipeline and then go to production, maybe a comment on payoffs. We experienced another good quarter, and we started the quarter with $130 million in the 30-day which continues to reflect the good, vibrant, resilient markets that we're operating in. That did yield this quarter 104 million growth, net growth in loans, roughly 3.5%. Both Kevin and Jim commented on the growth of both loans and deposits. So while I'm there, I want to point out as well, we had a very good relative to the balance sheet on both sides of it with our deposit growth as well. The production this quarter was roughly 390 million. That does compare to 418 million the prior quarter. So it was that 390 that resulted in the 104 net. That net compared to 150 million prior quarter, you mentioned payoffs. We did see, and as we've said in the past, payoffs many times as the governor on kind of where the net ends up. We saw payoffs bump up modestly this quarter. I wouldn't say anything unusual there out of the ordinary, just timing of payoffs. But just going back to production and looking forward, I mentioned our markets. All of our markets, our regions, our business lines continue to contribute well. They're reflective in our pipeline. in our production. And I'll break that down for you for that 390 million. This past quarter, 23% was in Tennessee, another 17% in Alabama, Florida panhandle, another 14% in Georgia and Central Florida, 22% in Mississippi, and 23% in our commercial corporate business line. So you can see both geographically and just how it distributes to throughout the business lines and the loan types. I'll touch on that. And I think, again, it speaks to the granularity that Jim and Kevin mentioned. This past quarter, if you take that production, about 20% was in one to four short duration type assets. And another area we usually do very well in, and really saw it this past quarter, 31% in small business type credits less than $2.5 million, and then an additional 32% in commercial credits, 2.5 and above, and that would be your traditional C&I owner-occupied type commercial real estate. and then the corporate commercial business lines rounded out that production at 18 percent this quarter. So, as we've seen in the past, and we consistently continue to hit on so many different cylinders, and that, I think, is the evidence of our ability to, I would say, prudently produce relative to pricing and underwriting credit. And I guess going ultimately to your question, just relatively looking forward, we remain optimistic about our ability to continue to produce and fund loan growth. And I would continue, as has been reflected throughout this year, somewhere in the mid-single-digit type of net growth going forward.

Robert Hopkinson- Mitch, very thorough answer, as usual. Maybe just as a follow-up, it was good to see NIB deposits kind of stabilized. Can you just talk about some of the push-pull there? I know there's several other banks that have referenced outsized competition from a few players in some of your markets. Just wanted to get some color there. And then when do you think we could actually begin to see a peak in deposit costs? Thanks.

Michael, this is Jim. So as you point out, I mean, it remains a very competitive environment. it does feel like the competition maybe isn't as fierce or, if you will, irrational as it was. I don't know if irrational is the right word, but it felt that way at times going back a couple of quarters. So, the pressures are still there. They just moderated some. And as you were asking the question, I was just looking at you. This might be, this doesn't speak just to NIB, but to deposits as a whole are, cost of deposits in the second quarter was 247. If you look at June, as just a data point, it was 249. So, I think that's just further evidence of that, of the increases in deposit costs moderating. I will also say that as we look at NIBs, I mean, internally, we're assuming or managing the balance sheet such that we anticipate, we budgeted for or mentally are prepared for some additional runoff on NIBs. I don't know that we'll see it. We were really pleased with what we saw in Q2, as Mitch referenced. But it is a competitive environment, and whether it's deposits across the board, but we're not seeing the same, I guess, level of, you know, competitive pricing that we saw a couple of quarters ago. And when that, you know, sort of, you know, stabilizes and bottoms out. I don't know, but we're certainly seeing some encouraging trends there.

Very helpful. And then maybe just finally for me, following up on Steven's question on M&A, you guys are about $17.5 billion in assets. You know, just describe kind of what, in theory, you would be looking for in a deal. Would you potentially do something larger? Would it be in-market? I know those are not necessarily in favor right now. Would you look to expand the footprint? you know, size, just any sort of color you can provide in terms of what you would be looking for, and maybe an asset size that, you know, we could think about both with organic and opportunistic M&A over the medium to long term. Thanks.

Sure, Michael. One thing I would just start answering that question is just our discipline around evaluating And certainly, we're focused on building scale and density within the markets that we operate in. We would certainly see that an opportunity. And, you know, I would say a sweet spot relative to size, probably something a billion, you know, or above. Like I say, focused on scale and density within the footprint. You know, as we think about being opportunistic, as Jim mentioned earlier, certainly we begin with that thought with organic growth, talent, and we had five additions this quarter, actually, on the talent front, just staying focused on organic-type opportunities. Also, I would say new markets relative to talent lift-outs, but just coming back to strategic partners, whether that be banks or non-banks, We continue to evaluate those opportunities. We always begin with culture and business model and risk appetite. I will say we do believe we're well positioned with a strong balance sheet. We have a capable team to take advantage of all of those opportunities.

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you. The next question comes from Catherine Miller with KVW. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. I just had one follow-up on the margin conversation. Your loan yields increased more this quarter than we've seen. Just wanted to see if you had updated thoughts on kind of the pace of loan yield increases that we should see for the back half of the year.

Good morning, Catherine. This is Jim.

Morning, Jim.

Good morning, Catherine. I would say, yes, we've been really pleased with, you know, the new and renewed rates we've been getting over the last couple of quarters. It does feel like, at least in the near term, the increases in that new and renewed could plateau. So we're definitely seeing some pressures there. And so as I As I think about new and renewed for the balance of the year, I think you could see some pressures in new and renewed yields.

Great. Okay.

And actually, I'll take it a step further, Catherine. If you look at it, it's one month, so a month doesn't make a trend. But our new and renewed for June were off a little bit from what we saw for the quarter. And again, it doesn't necessarily make a trend, but we're seeing some pressures there.

Would you say some of that's mix or just same kind of category of loans still have a lower incremental yield?

I wouldn't say that what we're seeing are expenses due to mix. It's just overall. I think there's a lot of competition for loan growth, and it feels like it's just showing up in pricing pressures.

Okay. That makes sense. Okay. And then maybe one on expenses. Your expenses have been flat for the past couple of quarters. Any update on your outlook for the back half of the year for the expense base?

Yeah, hey, Catherine. Good morning, Kevin. So, there's really not a whole lot of change there. I think we do have to adjust for insurance coming out, so that will affect the run rate. It'll bring it down about $2 million, but still, if you back that out off of what our run rate was in Q2, that's what we're thinking. That's what we're modeling for the back half of the year. continue to be mindful of expenses, work to reduce them where we can, and continue to find ways to improve profitability, whether that is more scale on the balance sheet that drives more revenue, the repricing, the opportunity of repricing of assets and liabilities, as Jim discussed, in the margin, or also looking at greater accountability measures to reduce our expenses. And that's been our focus. It will continue to be our focus.

Great. All right. Thank you.

Thank you, Kevin. The next question comes from Dave Bishop with Hubby Group. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, John.

Good morning, Dave.

Hey, Jim or Kevin, just want to make sure to follow up Catherine's questions. I hear that the expense impact from the insurance sale is about $2 million per quarter. Did I hear that correct?

That's correct.

Got it. And then turning back on the credit side, I know you discussed some of the impact in terms of the increase in NPAs, but any granularity you can give us there in terms of, you know, segments with that, you know, C&I, commercial real estate, maybe any sort of granularity, if it was CRE, what sort of segments was driving that and some of the issues?

Thanks. Sure. More on this today, but It was all commercial-related increase in MPAs quarter over quarter, and it wasn't a broadly. It was really three credits that were impacted, and they were about 80%, 85% of those two larger credits were CRE and nature. One was a senior housing property, and another one was a relationship that's kind of an assortment of a little bit of retail, a little bit of office. Both of them are credits that we've had identified as classified assets for a long period of time. Assets we continue to work with the borrowers on, and we just felt like due to valuations in some of these asset types, particularly the office space and the senior housing space, where those assets where we have occupancy issues and the market is not necessarily favorable on those assets, where we see some valuation concerns, we thought it was just better off in our normal philosophy to be proactive go ahead and seek to resolve those loans, whether it be through a note sale or whether it be through foreclosure. I think, Dave, as you know, we typically like to identify the problem loan, which we did a while ago when we kind of get to the point where we think there's a long-term problem loan that we won't be able to work out of or some potential valuation concerns. We're going to go ahead and seek to remedy that in this case. We'll go ahead and put those loans on non-accrual, and we'll work to expedite the resolution of those loans as quickly as possible.

God, I appreciate the color.

Sure. The next question comes from Jordan Ghent with Stevens. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. I just had a quick question on the allowance. It looks like it's kind of been taken down for the last few quarters and just kind of wondering if you guys could give a little info around where you kind of see that going or if it's going to be stabilizing or continue to track lower.

Thanks. George, good morning. It's David. You know, so we've not changed our philosophy on our CECL model. We feel strong about our CECL model, the way it's worked. You know, we reserved and what told us to reserve a few years ago, and at this point it's required us to, you know, we've held steady based on where the model comes out. We set it based on a number of factors at the asset level and we kind of let our model guide us where we are. And so in Q2, That number reduced a little bit, largely driven by the one pay down, but the model had built in where we need to reserve a little bit. So the dollar amount came down, but that was really, you know, in part due to we reserve for new loan growth, but that portfolio de-risked a little bit, especially in the senior housing space. As we talked about that one senior housing loan that we put on NPA and we had to charge down related to that one asset, that de-risked that senior housing asset type and caused a little bit of a a reduction in the required reserve for that particular asset. But all in all, we continue to follow the model quarter over quarter, and I think we would continue to see that until we see some change in some of those factors that drive the model.

I'm sorry, George.

I was just going to add to what David said. I think implicit in your question, too, and I think David suggested this, We've talked for a couple of years. I mean, it feels like, again, things could always change, but it feels like that allowance will slowly drift down during the balance of the year. You know, conditions and circumstances will ultimately dictate that. But I think, you know, we built it for a reason. We hadn't seen the charge-offs, and they remain very low, but we sort of... built it for a reason and anticipate that, you know, that'll gravitate down towards the 150-ish range by year end if circumstances and conditions hold where they are.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. The next question comes from John Roditz with FIG Partners. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Jim, maybe just a quick question on the securities portfolio. It was down a little bit again this quarter. It's 11% of assets. How should we think about that going forward?

Good morning, John. Yeah, I think, you know, I think internally we sort of think about it's not a, you know, a bright line or a hard line, but we think about a level of around 10%, and we've got obviously plenty of, external sources of liquidity available to us. So it's something that we're comfortable where it is, but I generally wouldn't see it drifting much below, if at all, below 10%. So we'll sort of watch that between now and year end, but that's our philosophy on sort of how we manage that securities position. Okay. Makes sense. Thanks, guys. Thank you, John.

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitch Waycaster, Renaissance CEO, for any closing remarks.

Well, thank you, Drew. Thank you to each of you who joined this morning's call and your interest in Renaissance.

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.