11/5/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Root's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Matt LaMalva, Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Thank you, and you may begin.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Thank you for joining us. Root is hosting this call to discuss its third quarter 2025 earnings results. Participating on today's call is Alex Timm, co-founder and chief executive officer. Megan Binkley, our chief financial officer, will be unable to join us this afternoon due to a family medical matter. In her absence, I will be providing our financial results and will also be available for Q&A. Earlier today, Root issued a shareholder letter announcing its financial results. While this call will reflect items discussed within that document, for more complete information about our financial performance, we also encourage you to read our third quarter 2025 Form 10Q, which was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission earlier today. Before we begin, I want to remind you that matters discussed on today's call will include forward-looking statements related to our operating performance, financial goals, and business outlook, which are based on management's current beliefs and assumptions. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinions as of the date of this call, and we are not obligated to revise this information as a result of new developments that may occur. Forward-looking statements are subject to various risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expected and described today. For a more detailed description of our risk factors, please review our most recent 10-K, 10-Q, and shareholder letter. A replay of this conference call will be available on our website under the investor relations section. I would also like to remind you that during the call, we will discuss some non-GAAP measures while talking about Roots performance. You can find reconciliations of these historical measures to the nearest comparable GAAP measures in our financial disclosures, all of which are posted on our website at ir.joinroot.com. I will now turn the call over to Alex Tim, Roots co-founder and CEO.

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Matt. The third quarter was another very strong quarter for Root, and we're excited by the momentum we are building. It was a record quarter for policies in force and revenue, driven by accelerating growth in both direct and partnership distribution channels. We achieved this growth while maintaining our exceptional loss ratio performance. As a technology company, we believe we have a structural and durable competitive advantage. This DNA is evident in everything we do, from our customer obsession, to our pricing technology, to the people we hire. It is what makes us special. And you saw that come through in the quarter across our pricing algorithm innovations, our partnership platform expansion, and our direct marketing machine, all combining to generate exceptional performance. As one example, we deployed our newest pricing algorithm in the quarter, which is improving customer LTVs by 20% on average. This model allowed us to accelerate growth across all channels, and we aren't stopping there. In the quarter, we also launched our new UBI model, which we estimate has improved predictive power by 10%. We believe this speed of innovation is unmatched in the industry, and we have no plans of slowing down. Also in the quarter, you saw our growth strategy at work, more than doubling new writings in our partnership channel, launching Washington State, and launching several experiments in new marketing channels. In our partnerships channel, we are extending our competitive advantage that provides seamless, easy purchase experiences with great prices to customers no matter how or where they shop. This represents a vast growth opportunity. Today, Root is only active in a very small fraction of distribution points in the insurance shopping ecosystem. This opportunity was on display in the quarter as we more than tripled our new writing year over year from independent agents. which now represents 50% of our partnership distribution. This channel alone is over $100 billion in premium nationally. And although we have made great strides, we are still active in less than 10% of agents, giving us a long and natural runway to rapidly expand our presence in this space. In our direct channel, new writings increase sequentially by high single digits despite increased competition. Combined with our new pricing model, we continue to invest in new real-time bidding algorithms that allow us to optimize for anticipated long-term economics. This machine continues to detect trends and changes in the marketplace and dynamically deploys our investments. We have also begun to see green shoots in a handful of new marketing channels, the focus of our R&D efforts. We plan to continue to accelerate our investments in these channels given our recent successes. and react appropriately as the data emerges. Our success makes us excited and confident to invest further into the business to accelerate our pricing advantage, increase our distribution presence across channels and geographies, and continue to create experiences customers love through product innovation. With a healthy capital position, excellent underwriting results, and a culture of discipline and excellence, we are ideally positioned to accelerate our growth trajectory. Our goal remains to build the largest, most profitable personal lines insurance carrier in the United States, and this quarter represents marked progress toward that goal. I'll now turn the call back over to Matt for more details on the quarter.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Thanks, Alex. For the third quarter, we recorded a net loss of $5 million, operating income of $300,000, and adjusted EBITDA of $34 million. As previously communicated, our net loss in the quarter was primarily driven by a $17 million non-cash expense related to our warrant structure with Carvana. Of this $17 million, $15.5 million reflects a cumulative expense catch-up. This expense ultimately reflects the success of our partnership as the vesting of warrants depends on achieving policy origination milestones. Even with this expense taken into account, we have generated $35 million of net income on a year-to-date basis. In the third quarter, we accelerated growth while continuing to achieve our target unit economics. Year over year, we delivered double-digit percentage increases in policies in force, written premium, and earned premium, while achieving a 59% gross accident period loss ratio. These strong results were driven by the deployment of our latest pricing model, advancements in our real-time bidding algorithm, and expanded partner integrations. Our capital position remains strong, with unencumbered capital of $309 million at the end of the third quarter. Given our exceptional underwriting performance, we also continue to be in a position of excess capital across our insurance subsidiaries. This allows us to optimize our operating structure and deploy growth capital to the highest profit-yielding opportunities. We continue to take a disciplined and opportunistic approach to direct marketing investment, adjusting quarter by quarter based on prevailing competitive dynamics. On the partnership side, we are still early in scaling this channel, and we expect it to continue to increase as a percentage of our overall book over the long term. Looking ahead, we expect continued acceleration of policies and force growth, and are excited to support that growth by increasing our investment in direct R&D marketing by roughly $5 million in the fourth quarter. Further, we anticipate a headwind to our loss ratio from typical seasonality in the fourth quarter, which is driven by elevated animal collisions and bad weather. Last year, the impact of the seasonality was roughly five percentage points of the accident period loss ratio, and we expect a similar impact this year. As we close out 2025 with exceptional underwriting performance, a healthy capital position, and a strong culture, we are now focused on accelerating growth at our target unit economics. Put simply, we are optimistic that our superior technology will drive growth despite an increasingly competitive environment. We are just getting started.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

With that, Alex and I look forward to your questions. Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session.

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Operator
Conference Operator

If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation token will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Our first question comes from Andrew Anderson with Jefferies LLC. You may proceed with your question.

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Andrew Anderson
Analyst, Jefferies LLC

Good afternoon. Sounds like some opportunities in the direct channel this quarter with some new writings increasing sequentially, high single digits. Maybe you could just talk about how that opportunity came to be and just the overall level of competitiveness you're seeing on the direct channel.

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. Yeah, we are still seeing competition up in the quarter and in the channel. But really what has happened, and we've continued actually to see that even this quarter to date, a continued acceleration of new writings and growth in our direct channel, in our partnerships channel, and really every channel overall. And a big thing that's driving that is our price. Last quarter we detailed that we shipped a new pricing algorithm that improved customer LTVs by 20%. that unlocks a lot of opportunity for us to continue to grow. And as we do that and we continue to refine pricing, continue to collect more data, and continue to get better at it, you're going to continue to see us be able to grow despite increased competitive pressures. And that's exactly what you saw this quarter, and we're still seeing that quarter to date as well.

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Andrew Anderson
Analyst, Jefferies LLC

Thanks. And then on the severity number plus 9%, it seems to have ticked up a little bit after kind of some 6s and 7s in recent periods. Can you maybe just talk about the change that you saw in severity this quarter and if it requires any change to rate here?

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

We're not anticipating any major changes to rate. We're broadly rate adequate. There will be some maintenance rate that we take here and there. I think the increase that you saw in the quarter is well within sort of natural variation for those numbers. We did see a little bit more in our property damage line, so in vehicle collisions versus our medical coverages. But, you know, again, I think that it was well within the normal range of variation.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from Tommy McJoy with KBW. You may proceed with your question. Hey, guys.

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Tommy McJoy
Analyst, KBW

Can you hear me?

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Yeah, we can hear you.

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Tommy McJoy
Analyst, KBW

Awesome. Thank you so much.

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Tommy McJoy
Analyst, KBW

You mentioned being active with less than 10% of independent agents. Can you just give us some color on how that figure has trended over the last couple of years so we can get a sense of the trajectory of your penetration? And then what's the process to go live with more agents?

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

Absolutely. Independent agents has been one of the most attractive near-term growth levers we've actually seen in the business, and we just are getting started. You know, we really just launched a couple years ago significantly into independent agents. And, you know, last quarter I believe we had disclosed that we were in, you know, less than 4% of all agents nationally. And so it represents, you know, it's a third of the market still. It was a third of the market a decade ago. It was a third of the market 100 years ago. So, you know, we don't think the independent agents channel is going anywhere yet. And again, we're just barely dipping our toe in. And so as we continue to grow that, we grew it 3x year over year this quarter, and we're not seeing that slow down. So we are marketing to agents. We're actively onboarding more agents. We are continuing to improve the product for agents so that they have more servicing capabilities, better prices for their customers as well. So we're seeing that as a really attractive growth channel, and we don't have any plans to slow down on appointing agents.

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Tommy McJoy
Analyst, KBW

Thank you so much. And then my second question is just that you give us the partnership as a percentage of new writings in the quarter. But if we wanted to think about partnership as a percentage of earned premium, could we take a trailing 12-month average?

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

So this quarter, you saw a roughly flat partnership percentage as an overall new writing, and that's because both of our channels grew very strongly. We're still continuing, as Alex mentioned, to see very strong growth in partnership driven by IA, but we have the pricing model that we launched last quarter, which tends to be the tide that lifts all ships. So we are seeing very strong growth there. But when we look over sort of the medium to longer term, we do expect partnership to continue to grow and to continue to be an increasing proportion of our book over time.

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

And as a matter of earned premium, you're probably going to see higher average premiums in the partnership channel. They're just larger policies that come through because there's more vehicles per household in that channel, particularly in the independent agency channel where a lot of preferred business shops And so I think you're going to see a little bit more. It'll be a little bit more skewed towards earned premium than sort of a trailing 12-month average.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Hristian Getzoff with Wells Fargo.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You may proceed with your question.

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Hristian Getzoff
Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Hi. Good afternoon. My first question is on the average premium per policy. It actually went down quarter over quarter and I was trying to get a sense of how much was that driven by that new pricing model. And then given you continue to trend well below the 60 to 65 target loss ratio, do you have more flexibility to maybe give up a little bit more on price to continue to win in this environment? Thank you.

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

First, on average premium, you saw us, I believe it was in June, take a fairly sizable rate decrease. It was a double-digit rate decrease in Florida. And Florida's a very big market. I think you saw that some folks had to do some refunds in Florida. We really wanted to make sure that we were giving the right prices to customers up front, and so we took that rate decrease proactively. And that's why you've seen sort of those average premiums come down, which has actually put us in a really good position for the end of the year. In terms of the ability to give more price back or to potentially lower prices, we're not in the position right now where we're broadly lowering rates, believing that we're overpriced, but we really do see, you know, a continued very healthy loss ratio. And what that's allowing us to do is to just continue to grow faster. And that's what we saw in this quarter. And again, we've seen that quarter to date as well.

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Hristian Getzoff
Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Got it. And then for my follow-up, any changes in the competitive landscape obviously remains elevated, but have you noticed anything, I guess, any recent changes? And then Do you have any color in how October PIF has trended versus the Q3?

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, October PIF growth has definitely accelerated versus what you saw in Q3. And again, we're not seeing that slow down. And so we feel good there. The competitive environment, it's still very competitive. You are seeing lower rate, lower pace of rate increases in the market right now. You're also seeing continued high levels of marketing advertising. And so On the direct channel specifically, you are seeing high degrees of competition. But again, we saw that in Q3, and I think now we've been able to show that we can even grow and we can execute through that cycle. And that's really driven by our technology and our new pricing models that are continuing to allow us to grow despite the fact that competition is about as hot as we've ever seen it.

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Hristian Getzoff
Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities

Got it. And if I can sneak one more in, obviously tariffs were a topic of discussion at the start of the year, and now it's kind of dwindled down, and I think people are maybe expecting less of an impact than they originally thought. I guess, have you guys seen any meaningful change in your data, and has your expectation for those impacts changed?

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Alex Timm
Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer

We have not. We've not seen that come through yet. Right now, it still looks Like our expectations are basically right in line with what we'd expect just from natural trend. And so we don't think that we're seeing any sort of impact to inflation in the numbers right now from tariffs. We do expect to see loss ratios generally increase in Q4. There's seasonality, and that's usually, you know, if you look at 2024, you can see that's usually three to five points. So we might see some temporary increases in loss ratios in the fourth quarter. But we don't think that's going to be driven by tariffs.

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Matt LaMalva
Head of Investor Relations and Corporate Development

Got it. Thank you so much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this now concludes our question and answer session and does conclude today's teleconference as well. Thank you for your participation. Please disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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