8/8/2023

speaker
Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Jessica and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Rapid7 second quarter earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Sunil Shah, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

speaker
spk17

Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to discuss Rapid7's second quarter 2023 financial and operating results, in addition to our financial outlook for the third quarter and full fiscal year 2023. With me on the call today are Corey Thomas, our CEO, and Tim Adams, our CFO. We have distributed our earnings press release over the wire and it is now posted on our website at investors.rapid7.com along with the updated company presentation and financial metrics file. This call is being broadcast live via webcast and following the call, an audio replay will be available at investors.rapid7.com. During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are considered forward-looking under federal securities laws. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and include statements related to the company's positioning, strategy, business plans, restructuring plan, financial guidance for the third quarter and full year 2023, financial goals for full year 2024, and the assumptions underlying such goals and guidance. These forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs and on information currently available to us. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from the future results expressed or implied in these statements due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those contained in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed on May 10, 2023. and in the subsequent reports that we file with the SEC. The information provided on this conference call should be considered in light of such risks. Actual results and the timing of certain events may differ materially from the results or timing predicted or implied by such forward-looking statements, and reported results should not be considered as an indication of future performance. Rapid7 does not assume any obligation to update the information presented on this conference call, except to the extent required by applicable law. Our commentary today will primarily be in non-GAAP terms, and reconciliations between our historical GAAP and non-GAAP results can be found in today's earnings press release and on our website at investors.rapid7.com. At times in our prepared remarks and in response to your questions, we may offer incremental metrics to provide greater insight into the dynamics of our business or our quarterly results. Please be advised that this additional detail may be one time in nature, and we may or may not update these metrics in the future. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Corey Thomas.

speaker
Rapid7

Corey? Thank you, Sunil, and welcome to everyone joining us on today's second quarter 2023 earnings call. I would like to start by acknowledging the plan we announced today to restructure and optimize our organization by reducing Rapid7's employee base by roughly 18%. While it was an extremely difficult decision, we believe this step is critical to build on the momentum we're seeing in security operations and to position us to be a more profitable growth company in 2024 and beyond. I will discuss more details about the strategic rationale behind this decision and the associated financial impacts later on today's call. Let's start with our second quarter results. I'm pleased to report that Rapid7 ended the second quarter with $751 million in ARR, growing 14% over the prior year, and delivered revenue and operating income above our guidance ranges, alongside better-than-expected free cash flow. During the second quarter, we continue to see strong and improving traction with our consolidation offerings. Customers are gravitating towards our holistic security operations stack. particularly threat-complete, which unifies risk and threat management into a single integrated offering. The performance of our packages once again exceeded our expectations, as over one-third of new AR in the second quarter was driven by either a threat or cloud risk-complete deal, as customers looked to increase the effectiveness and efficiency of their security programs by consolidating their vendor footprint. A great example of this consolidation was a six-figure ARR deal in the second quarter with an existing Insight VM customer that was looking to replace a legacy SIEM solution managed by an MSSP. Building on our established VM relationship, Rapid7 was uniquely able to provide the customer a comprehensive security solution. And our best-in-class technology, coupled with the expertise of our SOC analysts, was amplified by the value proposition from our managed threat complete offering. We competed against many large players in the extended detection response space, and the customer chose Rapid7 based on the strength of our automation capabilities, our security and incident response expertise, and our predictable pricing model. This customer is indicative of the current environment where customers are upgrading and consolidating providers while looking for better quality services and experiences. Customer spending dynamics in the second quarter were broadly in line with our expectations, with ongoing macro sensitivity influencing customer budgets. We've optimized our sales efforts around this new normal by leaning into customers' needs for more cohesive, efficient solutions that are aligned with their resource constraints. Our strategic focus around SecOps consolidation continues to gain momentum, and we are driving focused innovation across our core products and capabilities to accelerate customer value. We are particularly focused on integrating a frictionless cloud security experience into risk management programs for mainstream buyers. A great proof point is our recently introduced executive risk view, a new capability that gives security practitioners unified visibility to risk across all combinations of on-premise, cloud, and hybrid environments. Executive RiskView's ability to holistically assess risk and track security program effectiveness is a complete differentiator for us across VM and cloud security. It's also an example of our unique ability to add value for customers by leveraging the breadth of our insight platform. Our expertise in helping customers secure their cloud and hybrid environment is illustrated by a six-figure competitive win in the second quarter with an enterprise manufacturing company. As an existing customer, they had built out a strong risk management program for their traditional environment with Rapid7's vulnerability management and AppSec solutions. Despite a flat budget this year, the CISO security teams needed to extend risk visibility and management into their growing cloud footprint. After an extensive POC, Rapid7's cloud security capabilities set us apart from other well-known players for multiple reasons. Our ability to provide unified visibility to risk across the full environment, the integration and ease of use of our platform, and our ability to offer extensive automation, including automated remediation. Ultimately, these product differentiators combine with the budget predictability and value proposition from our cloud risk-complete offering led the customer to consolidate this part of their SecOps stack on the Rapid7 Insight platform. Turning now to our strategic areas of focus as we enter the second half of 2023 and look forward. We remain anchored on our core customer mission to make the best security operations technologies accessible to all. Let me share with you how we're optimizing to execute against this mission through our focus on the modern stock. With the industry undergoing a customer-driven shift to consolidated security platforms, the early success around our integrated SecOps strategy is evident, as our consolidation offerings track ahead of expectations. Looking ahead, we see an evolving set of critical customer dynamics in this space. First, we have noticed a customer shift from cloud security as a specialized function to cloud security as an integrated capability within security and SecOps teams. We view this as a massive demand driver for integrated SecOps and think that we have a significant opportunity to be the leader in delivering integrated risk and threat management across on-prem, cloud, and external attack services. As the threat landscape continues to grow in complexity, customers are showing more demand than ever for integrated expertise to support them in effectively managing their security technologies. The convergence of these key trends, security consolidation, integrated cloud security, and expertise-driven outcomes are the foundation of what we view as the new modern SOC. Rapid7's focus is to be a leading provider of integrated security solutions for the modern SOC by providing risk and threat management within the context of overall security delivered as a service alongside expertise tailored to the needs of each customer. Let me walk you through three distinct opportunities for Rapid7 to support the modern SOC and why we believe that we are optimally positioned to win. One, customers continue to upgrade from legacy log-centric detection to cloud native detection and response programs. With over $300 million of our ARR and detection response, with growth at over 25%, it is clear that customer demand is strong and we have to establish both the scale and product leadership to win this opportunity. Two, customers can no longer treat their risk and threat functions as distinct. The modern SOC manages threats as a function of risk and vice versa. With our integrated best of breed capabilities across risk management and threat detection in both cloud and traditional environments, we are uniquely positioned to deliver this integrated experience to mainstream buyers. And three, customers are increasingly reliant upon both greater levels of automation and integrated expertise alongside their technology. Having built best in class service augmentation with our global stock presence, we see massive potential to drive high margin managed services, both through existing offerings and investing in accelerating our strategic managed service partnerships. With that context, let's talk about the strategic decision we announced today to restructure our organization and reorient our cost structure and how that positions us to better execute against our strategy. We recently completed a deep analysis of our cost structure through the lens of accelerating our investments to deliver the most comprehensive modern stock offering for our customers. Earlier today, we announced plans to reduce our global workforce by approximately 18% and to consolidate our global facility footprint. There are two clear outcomes from this reorientation. First, it is clear that we have an opportunity to run leaner as a business. About half of our plan changes are efficiency-related cuts that we expect to flow directly to the bottom line. These include streamlining management layers, reduction of role overlap, and optimizing our own and offshore talent mix. Second, we have a compelling opportunity to strategically reallocate investment to key areas that we believe will drive the most long-term value for customers. With a vast amount of our product expansion now behind us, we can reallocate and accelerate investment in capabilities and services that customers are purchasing around the modern stock, including our managed service partnerships. We expect these changes will meaningfully optimize our cost structure while enhancing future product capabilities and delivering a higher quality customer experience. Ultimately, these changes position us to drive strong and more profitable growth over time by aligning our investments, with our customers' long-term SecOps needs, while at the same time establishing a strong free cash flow support for our business. Tim will guide you through more specific financial details later on the call. But at a high level, net of the investments we're making in strategic focus areas, we expect these measures to substantially expand our profitability profile while driving significant progress towards our mid-term Rule of 40 objectives. Looking ahead to 2024, we believe these actions position us to deliver at least $160 million in free cash flow in 2024, doubling from our current 2023 guidance of $80 million. Given the investment leverage in our business, we have confidence in our ability to scale free cash flow in 2024. While it's premature to set any revenue, or ARR growth targets for 2024, this free cash flow expectation does not assume improvement in the macroeconomic environment, and we're confident we can execute to this target even if our top-line growth were to be sustained at this year's levels. Shifting our focus back to 2023, I'm pleased with the progress our team has made during the first half of 2023, laying the groundwork for us to drive ongoing customer impact with our integrated SecOps strategy, including executing to our first half growth targets. Looking to the back half of 2023, we continue to see line of sight to our original four-year ARR guidance range. With that said, we believe it is prudent to establish a high-confidence expectation range that accounts for a modest degree of disruption over the next three to six months as we implement the strategic realignment. As a result, we're reducing our four-year ARR guidance by approximately 2% at the midpoint to account for potential disruption. This is coupled with a significant ramp in our operating margin expectations, which we will now expect to improve by approximately 700 basis points over the prior year. Tim will share more specifics on this in his comments. In summary, we continue to focus on the highest value, most impactful areas of our business on behalf of customers. While the changes we announced today are difficult We have a compelling opportunity to position ourselves to deliver stronger, more profitable growth, and we remain committed as ever to our enduring goals. Help customers securely transition to the cloud, expand the capabilities and value of our Insight platform, and balance strategic investments and durable growth with expanding profitability. Thank you all for joining us today. I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Tim Adams, to share additional detail on our financial results and outlook. Tim?

speaker
Corey

Thank you, Corey, and good afternoon to everyone on today's call. Thank you for joining us. Before I turn to the results, a quick reminder that except for revenue, all financial results we will discuss today are non-GAAP financial measures, unless otherwise stated. Additionally, reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results can be found in our earnings press release. Rapid7 ended second quarter of 2023 with $751 million in ARR, consistent with our expectations and growing 14% over the prior year, reflecting continued demand for our Insight platform with the strongest growth contribution coming from the high priority areas of detection and response and cloud security. We continue to see threat and cloud risk complete offerings tracking ahead of our expectations, at over one-third of new ARR in the second quarter, with the benefit coming from both landing new customers and driving upgrades and expansion within our base. We also saw balanced contributions from new and existing customers in our overall business during the quarter, with ARR per customer that grew 7% year over year to $66,500, as existing customers leverage more capabilities on our platform. We saw a nice improvement in total net customer ads, ending the second quarter with nearly 11,300 customers, representing growth of 6% year over year. Second quarter revenue of $190 million grew 14% over the prior year and exceeded the high end of our guidance range. Product revenue grew 14 percent year-over-year to $182 million and was better than expected on favorable linearity in the quarter. International revenue grew 17 percent over the prior year and represented 21 percent of total revenue, while North America revenue grew 13 percent year-over-year. Now turning to our operating and profitability measures for the quarter. Product gross margin was 76% in the second quarter, and overall gross margin was 74%, both in line with our expectations. Sales and marketing expenses represented 39% of revenue in the quarter, down from 41% in the prior year. R&D expenses were 21% of revenue unchanged from the prior year, and G&A expenses were 7% of revenue compared to 8% in the prior year. Higher revenue combined with slower hiring in the quarter drove stronger than anticipated operating income of $13 million in the second quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was $19 million in the quarter, and diluted net income per share was 18 cents, better than our guided range on higher operating income. There are two additional items from the second quarter I want to mention that are non-cash and do not affect our non-GAAP results. First, our GAAP net income reflects a $13 million non-cash charge related to a capped call transaction from our 2023 convertible bonds. These bonds were retired as part of a refinancing nearly two years ago, but the associated capped calls require us to record a mark-to-market adjustment at the end of the second quarter. This cap call transaction was settled in early August, resulting in a cash receipt of slightly over $17 million. Second, as part of the restructuring plan, we will be consolidating our global real estate footprint. As a result, we incurred a non-cash charge of $27 million in the second quarter related to real estate assets that we determine are not necessary to support our strategic growth objectives. Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statement. We ended the second quarter with cash, cash equivalents and investments of $296 million. This is before the $17 million we collected in August related to the cap call transaction on our 2023 convertible bonds. Operating cash flow was $31 million, and we generated $26 million of free cash flow in the second quarter, driven by stronger profitability and more favorable collection trends. Now, turning to our outlook for the remainder of the year. The restructuring plan we announced today is a focused effort to align our organization and our investments around the areas of business that are driving the most value for our customers. This was not a decision we made lightly, and we believe these actions will enable stronger and more profitable growth as we invest to meet customer demand for consolidated SecOps solutions. We expect to incur charges of approximately $24 to $32 million related to the restructuring plan throughout the third and fourth quarters of 2023, of which the majority are expected to be cash expenditures and weight it towards the third quarter. We also expect to incur $3 to $4 million in non-cash impairment charges from the consolidation of our real estate footprint throughout the second half of 2023. These restructuring charges will be excluded from our non-GAAP operating income and non-GAAP net income results, though the cash expenditures will be reflected in our operating cash flow and free cash flow. As such, the cash benefit of reduced headcount will be offset by the associated severance-related cash charges. As a result, we are maintaining our expectation of approximately $80 million in free cash flow for the full year. As Corey mentioned, we are updating our full-year ARR outlook range to $800 to $805 million, or approximately 12% to 13% in growth, over the prior year. This is roughly a 2% reduction in year-over-year growth at the midpoint, which despite healthy year-to-date momentum in our business, we believe is appropriate to account for modest disruption risk in the business as we make these important strategic changes. We are adjusting our total revenue guidance for the full year to $771 to $775 million or roughly 13% growth. The $3 million reduction at the midpoint is wholly driven by lower professional services revenue tied specifically to our restructuring cost actions, which we now expect should be approximately flat compared to last year. We are raising our full-year operating income guidance to a range of $86 to $90 million. which represents approximately 700 basis points of operating margin expansion over the prior year. We expect full year net income per share to be in the range of $1.23 to $1.29, based on an estimated 67.5 million diluted weighted average shares outstanding. Turning to quarterly guidance. For the third quarter of 2023, we expect revenue in the range of $196 to $198 million, which represents growth of roughly 12% year over year. We expect operating income for the third quarter in the range of $29 to $31 million and non-GAAP net income per share of 41 cents to 44 cents, which is based on 71.7 million diluted weighted average shares outstanding. As we look out at next year, we expect to generate at least $160 million in free cash flow in 2024, doubling from our current 2023 guidance of $80 million. We feel good about our results year to date and about our ability to pursue the strategic opportunities ahead of us as a leaner, more agile company. Thank you for taking the time to join us on the call today. And with that, we will now open the call for questions. Operator?

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Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. And we'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Please note, we will limit each caller to one question. If you would like to ask an additional question, please press star one again to rejoin the queue. Our first question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC. Matt, go ahead.

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Matt Hedberg

Great. Great, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So just one. Let's see. So, you know, I just wanted to maybe get a better perspective on the full year guide. I mean, obviously, the Q2 results were good. I just want to be clear. Is the full year reduction just a function of the restructuring process? Or is it that you're seeing macro trends deteriorate? Just maybe a little finer point on sort of the assumptions on the 2% reduction would be super helpful.

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Rob Owens

Thank you.

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Rapid7

No, very reasonable question, Matt. So the first thing is that we were really focused on looking at our cost structure both this year, but more importantly as we went into 24. And we decided that if we were going to have the right cost structure going into 24, this was the right time to actually make these changes. Now, a secondary impact is we have to really assess is what's the risk of these changes in the business. As you know, we had a back-end loaded year. What I would say is foundationally, we were trending well towards what we had set out. But when we think about the amount of change that we're doing with the 18% reduction in a back-end loaded year, we want to make sure that we actually gave a guidance range that was a very high confidence guidance range. So that was a primary driver of the change in the guidance.

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Operator

Great, thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Saket Khalia with Barclays. Saket, go ahead.

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spk02

Okay, great. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question here. I'll keep it to one as well. Corey, maybe for you, you know, you talked about using this restructuring as a way to also reallocate resources. I mean, clearly there's a profitability benefit, but also as a way to reallocate resources. to the areas where customers are seeing the most value. I was wondering if you could just go one level deeper into that. What product areas do you think are maybe going to get a little bit of increased investment? Where do you think you can get a little bit more profitability? Tell us how you thought about that.

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Rapid7

That's a good question. In fact, one of the things that we actually saw is we were seeing extraordinarily strong, healthy performance conversion rates in certain parts of our business, a We saw with the package strategy that we actually laid out. We had to make sure that our entire organization was aligned around that. And frankly, it just wasn't. And this gives us an opportunity to actually get the alignment right. The area specifically, Socket, to your very good question, is really, I think, about three core areas that we're really going to focus on. One is what we think about as the modern SOC, is customers are looking to upgrade their SOC to drive efficiency. They need both great technology. Yes, it's also consolidation play, but they also need expertise on demand. And so if you look at the investments that we're making, we're really bringing the modern stock together, which people have to actually monitor their traditional environments. But they also have to really monitor the cloud environments and they have to both manage risk and threats. We've seen increasing demand and traction with that strategy. Frankly, the packages are actually going ahead of what we actually laid out. But there's an opportunity to actually build a deeper, more integrated solution and to fully take that to market in a very compelling way. And I would say we're seeing some of the benefits of that, but we plan to accelerate the benefits. The second thing, which I actually alluded to in the previous statement, was the accelerating our investments and continuing in cloud. Cloud is at its early evolution. It's early innings. The most important thing now is it's actually going from a niche thing where you actually have separate things and as more customers focus on complex integrated environments, it needs to be a mainstream thing. Our goal is to be a leader in mainstream security operations where people are able to actually both monitor risk and threats across their traditional environments and their cloud environments and that to be a seamless experience. We have great traction and great progress. But look, it's a competitive market. We're not wrestling our laurels. And we actually are reallocating and refocusing our investment area. And then the last area, I would just say, is more than anything a realignment-focused area, is that as we've actually executed our strategy quite well and broadened our product portfolio, we've just actually had different experiences for different buyers of different products and services. And so we're streamlining and aligning that. That, frankly, is both an efficiency benefit, but it's a better customer experience for our customers. So those are the areas of major focus that we have. And thank you for the question, Simon.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Eric He with KeyBank Capital Market. Eric, go ahead.

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Eric He

Hey, great. Thank you. I'll ask two questions, if I may. Just first, I mean, Corey, can you help us just give us an understanding on kind of the type of growth profile you're setting yourself up for in 24 following this restructuring plan? And then one follow-up, if I may.

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Rapid7

Yeah, no. So I can answer that one pretty quickly. So it's way too premature to actually talk about the growth profile you were for. Mostly because I am not at all qualified to talk about what the economy is going to be like in 24. And so we'll update you on that later. I think the important thing to think about when thinking about the performance profile is we knew we wanted to actually strengthen our free cash flow. We want to establish a strong foundation there. And so what we did was really pressure tested the growth profile to make sure that it was going to be resilient. I mean, the free cash flow, that it would actually hit our free cash flow aspirations and targets in a range of different scenarios. So we have a lot of confidence in free cash flow. What I will tell you, too, is that we're making investments in some of the business such that as the economy normalizes, whenever that happens, we should actually see growth accelerate from where we expect it to be this year. But again, it's too early to actually talk about what's going to happen in the economy. But we're definitely making the investments to actually, yes, get more free cash on efficiency. But we plan to be a competitive grower in the market. And as the economy normalizes, our absolute focus is making sure that we're actually growing stronger than what we're seeing at this level today.

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Eric He

Okay, thanks. And then just on your comments about cloud, could you just maybe be a little bit more specific on where you'd like to invest in cloud security? Does this mean more kind of aggressively in the CNAP space? Is that how I should think about it? And then just if you had any color on kind of how big the cloud security business is at the moment, that'd be great color as well.

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Rapid7

Yeah, so we see attraction in cloud. We didn't release the specific numbers on it. What I would just say as a high level for cloud is we're actually seeing great traction. In fact, the traction has accelerated, which is part of our confidence in investing in it. There's two different areas that I think we actually have core capabilities and strength and cloud vulnerability management. Cloud vulnerability assessment and CSPM and cloud automation today. And we have a good position in other areas. There's two things I would say. One, it's a continuing investment in overall cloud security to make sure that we have the leadership position there. And so there's some aspects of CNAP absolutely will be invested in. But the other one is that cloud is still early stages. It's not, you know, like, how do you think about securing AI in the cloud? And so it's also a non-static, it's a highly dynamic market. And we also want to make sure we have the investment capacity to make sure that we actually are leaning into the investment. Because with cloud, you actually have to be leaning into the investment to stay relevant. The last thing I'd say is that we do see a big advantage in the traction that we've seen is customers are looking to manage cloud in the context of other things that they're doing in their environment. So I would say we see a major differentiator in integrated security operations management that includes cloud in the context of the traditional environment and allows people to manage their overall security footprint cost effectively. And we think that as the market goes mainstream, that's a massive opportunity. And that will be one of our drivers to your previous question that actually helps us continue to actually accelerate growth as the economy normalizes. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Matt Saltzman with Morgan Stanley. Matt, go ahead.

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Matt Saltzman

Hey, team. Thanks for taking the question. Corey, just a star quick one for you. When you think about the competitive landscape for Rapid7, I would assume things have certainly shifted, particularly as you brought in the product portfolio and really honed in on these bundled Go to market motion. So I'm curious in the RFP process if you're seeing a broadening of the vendors that you're competing with and just kind of any commentary that you can give around win rates. I know it's still relatively early in terms of the bundles being in the market, but anything you can give us around win rates against kind of new competitors would be really helpful.

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Rapid7

Yeah, no, it's a good one. So look, I think the biggest nuke where we have the most at-bats is going to be clearly in the modern stock space. That's the evolution of the SEM market, where we also have a consolidation play. And you see a range of different competitors. You see the traditional SIM players. You see some of the MDR players. You have a range of competitors. What I would say is that we're actually having a lot of traction and momentum. That's part of why we're continuing to double down in that business, in that space. The conversion rates are high. The growth rates are good. It's an at-scale business. It's extraordinarily healthy. We're seeing lots of ability to attach around that business. And so part of what we're doing is really oriented around that modern stock. So that's the first thing. And so our win rates are actually consistent and growing and high. We feel very good. We're actually having with managed direct complete, I would just say record conversion rates and that offering, which is a proxy for win rates, although we haven't publicly disclosed the win rates. The second thing I would just highlight is, you know, there's two ways to think about the cloud space is the integrated cloud. Our strategy right now, because this cloud space is both competitive and expensive, is we knock it off the ballpark if we actually do an effective job of upgrading our vulnerability management install base, which is a central base in Sticky. That's the motion that we really got focused on this year, and that's the purpose of CRC. And we're doing an extraordinary job right now with a very recent start and actually starting to upgrade that CRC base. It's early. We have that vulnerability management base. But we are not going out specifically trying to actually land lots of net new cloud customers because this is not the most efficient motion for us right now. We see our early momentum over the next couple of years is really upselling and upgrading our vulnerability management install base. to cloud risk complete. You start to see evidence of that. I think I talked about one story. The pipeline building is there. The conversion rates are there. We're managing to do that. But that's the strategy and focus areas that we actually have there. Now, inevitably, I think as you're alluding to, as we continue to actually build on that cloud momentum, we'll absolutely see more cloud competitors and it's a hyper-competitive market. And we'll tackle that as that comes. But to be clear, is that you talk about accelerating growth. We knock it off the ballpark by just upgrading our vulnerability management install base. And that's what we're sort of currently putting the focus. Thank you.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Reback with FIFO. Brad, go ahead.

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Brad Reback

Great. Thanks very much. Corey, 18% is a really large number. So as you manage the business going forward, how do you prevent, I'll call it morale breakage, and then How do we think about how long it'll take to reinvest those savings back into the business? Thanks.

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Rapid7

Well, one, you're quite right. 18% is large. Of course, we don't do this lightly. So let me just talk about how we actually thought about this. So the first thing is that from our employees, the things that we're able to say to our employees today is while we don't control it, incrementalism is not helpful to anyone. There's lots of companies that have had to do this multiple times. And so we actually just had a bias about, hey, let's go deeper and actually do this once if we're going to have to do it. So that's one thing that we actually focus on. The second thing is that we definitely, like all companies, have inefficiencies. We start by tackling inefficiencies. The inefficiencies are absolutely a smaller number. But part of what we actually saw in the momentum is we actually have parts of our business that are actually growing quite healthily, have incredible stickiness, are showing great signs of the expansion and anchoring ability. And we did not have all of our team and resources aligned around that for obvious reasons, if you think about the legacy of the business. And so when you think about you're going to do something like a RIF or restructuring, you could just tackle the efficiencies. You can go shallow. which actually causes more pain to employees over the longer term frame. You could actually go a little bit different in an effort to actually do it once. We think that's the best for employees so they actually have some visibility and confidence as we go forward. The thing that gives me the most confidence and the thing that I've heard from most of our employees that they're excited about is that second part of actually making the hard decision to do some of the realignment that allows us to focus on the areas that people see the momentum. Because our employees see where we actually have momentum. And us putting a line in the sand and saying we will actually be investing behind these opportunities is a confidence builder for lots of our employees who are actually looking at the opportunity in the market. So that's our decision. Make sure that for employees, we actually do this once with everything that we actually know is possible. Making sure that they're investing in tackling the big opportunities that we're already getting progress on. And that's the type of thing that we think actually motivates and excites the employees that are actually moving forward with us.

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Corey

Corey, just on the second part of Brad's question about the timeliness of the reinvestment, we're going to be very thoughtful and very deliberate in terms of what we do. But Brad, you would expect to see some of that happening in the back half of this year and certainly carrying into next year. But again, we're very confident with that improvement in free cash flow doubling year over year to the $160 million that Corey mentioned earlier for next year.

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Rapid7

Thank you for the question.

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Operator

Thank you. Great. Thank you so much. Your next question comes from the line of Joel Fishbein with Truist Securities. Joel, go ahead.

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Joel Fishbein

Thanks. Just a quick follow-up on Brad's question and then one about acquisitions. You guys are reaching a point where you have easier comps going forward, and I just If you've thought about how this may impact, you know, in terms of go-to-market or talk about any impact to your go-to-market, you know, feet on the street salespeople that the restructuring might have. I know that's not focused there. And then also just as a follow-up to that, how the restructuring or focus on free cash flow might impact your acquisition strategy going forward. Thanks.

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Rapid7

Yeah, no, two very good questions. So the first is that we made every effort to make sure that we actually minimize customer impact in the short term. And in the midterm, it's very positive to actually customer impact. We're actually rotating more people to be frontline, customer-facing, and engaged. One simple way to think about the restructuring is that it's very mild impact on our quota-carrying people our frontline support people in terms of the number of net people in the organizations that are doing customer facing stuff. There is a lot of impact in some of the overhead that's built up in lines, the management layers, the efficiency. And so that is an impact. To your point, I think part of what we actually had to look at is we have a lot of positive signals. I mean, the momentum in the business is good. We had a good Q2. We built good pipe. We've seen great conversion rates. But what we really wanted to balance that with is making sure that we actually take proper care to actually manage the risks that comes from a change of this order of magnitude and size. And so part of that is making sure that we're deeply focused on making sure we try to minimize customer risk. any customer friction that can come along with this have good communication part of this is also why we actually reduced the guidance range to actually make sure that our team is focused on building a long-term healthy business but again there's some unknowns in there as you actually go through a change in a relatively tight window so that's the setup that we actually have around that i think that we're quite set up well to actually manage our customers engage in the short term but in the mid term we actually think it'll be quite uh successful And then you had a second question. It was on the M&A side. Free cash flow. On the M&A side, I think there's two obvious points. One, generating more free cash flow gives us a more range of flexibilities of options about how to do that. Of course, we'll actually look at what's the best benefit for long-term shareholders. And so that's going to be a flex area. It just gives us a lot more flexibility and a lot more options that we manage the business, which is why I had a really, really big focus with Tim and the rest of our leadership team on establishing a much stronger foundation of free cash flow as we're going forward because it allows us a lot more options. When we do M&A, I mean, look, I can never say we'd never do anything. We have a significant bias for tech and team things that are strategically aligned and oriented. That tends to be where we actually like to play and where we actually like to focus on in M&A. But I would think about the free cash flow as just giving us a lot more capacity and options about how do we actually generate value in the business.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Srenik Patari with Robert Baird. Srenik, go ahead.

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Srenik Patari

Hey, thanks for taking my question. So yeah, Corey, it's good to see that your threat and cloud risk complete offerings are tracking ahead of your expectations and it's head over one third of your new ARR and overall better than expected kind of favorable linearity in the quarter. From an international revenue standpoint, it seems like it, again, grew quite strongly, about 13%. Can you provide some geographical color around both the favorable linearity as well as the overall retention rates sequentially from last quarter? I really appreciate it.

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Rapid7

Yeah, I'll tag team that with Tim. So, you know, the first thing I would just say is we're seeing, you know, last year was pressured in the international, especially the media. Tim talked about retention last year. I would say we've seen a very healthy stabilization and a good place to actually continue growth and health from here. And so we feel very good about what's happening in international teams. We feel very good about the execution and leadership. And we think we're set up well as we actually go forward. But a lot of that is just it's improvements over last year, which we had a rough 20. We had a rough 22 when it came to international. And so you saw stabilization. And now you're starting to see some improvements of the fundamentals going forward.

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Corey

So, Tim. No, I would just add, Corey, certainly a big opportunity still internationally. The growth rate has been massive. you know better higher than what we've seen in north america still a huge tam over there a big opportunity and to your point just on retention rates something we pay a lot of attention to and the team does a lot of work there and they've remained stable thank you for the question thank you your next question comes in the line of jonathan ho with william blair jonathan go ahead

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Tim

Hi there. Good afternoon. I wanted to see if I could get a little bit of additional detail on the MSP opportunity that you referenced. Why is the MSP opportunity a little bit more attractive than in prior periods? How does the restructuring maybe impact that as well? Thank you.

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Rapid7

No, it's a great question. So we've been talking a little bit for a while about partnership, the partnership focus, but also the big opportunity around MSSPs. Look, the way that we see it, customers overwhelmingly need both technology and services. As people try to tackle a very complex security environment, there's just not enough talent, enough expertise. We have to scale with a strategy of both technology that's great, well-integrated, and a good service experience. Rapid7 does some of this, but we have no aspirations to actually do all of it. Two, we actually think MSPs are great partners. And so part of what we're doing in the efficiency and the streamlining is not just internally aligning our teams. We're actually leaning heavily into a partner strategy that actually for partners that actually provide value to customers to be investing more in those partners, co-selling more with those partners, investing in integrated technology solutions and support services with those partners. But we are rotating our orientation to be Look, partners have actually grown well with our business. We have key partners that are actually doing quite well. But you'll see even more of that in the future. We have some great demand with some very key and strategic partners that we've already shown momentum with this year. And we see a lot of opportunity to actually partner with key folks in the ecosystem going forward. And so that's a big focus. But at the end of the day, customers need great technology. Yes, they need to be integrated, but they also need service augmentation. And our strategy is to actually do that, not just ourselves, but heavily in conjunction with our partners. Thank you, Jonathan.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Greg Moskovitz. Greg, go ahead.

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Greg Moskovitz

Yeah. Hey guys, this is Mike on for Greg here. Just two quick ones. So firstly, I'm just wondering, were there any changes this quarter in average sales cycles, average deal sizes or duration as compared with the Q1? And just second, what sort of ASP uplift did you see for threat complete and cloud risk complete this quarter? Thanks.

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Rapid7

Yeah, I would say no change from Q1. If you think about Q4, Q1, Q2, it's been what we've seen. It's a pressured economic environment. Things take a little bit longer. But it's a stable trend is what I would actually see. Again, I just want to be clear. Our demand outlook is healthy and stable. It's just you have the... You have a environment where customers are under a little bit of pressure, and we have to be thoughtful about how that pressure manifests it. But we're also seeing things convert. We're seeing lots of health. So we feel very good about the stableness of the demand environment so far. Things can always change, but we feel very good about what we actually saw in Q2 and what that portends for as we actually move forward. Your second question is that the uplift that we saw on the packages was still double. It's roughly 2x. We feel good about that. We do have to get, we have to do a job of managing, you know, more deals that could have, that have higher ASPs in there. And that's also a balance in consideration when we think about guidance and other things. But again, it's roughly 2X and that's been a positive trend in the business.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with ETIG. Gray, go ahead.

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Gray Powell

Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question. So yeah, maybe just one on my side. I want to make sure I had a stat right. I think you called out detection and response at over 300 million in ARR with 25% growth. That's great to hear. I know you're not disclosing vulnerability management revenue anymore, but is it safe to say that that's still growing in line or maybe better than the overall VM market? How should we think about that next? Thanks.

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Rapid7

Yeah, so one, I'll answer two questions. One, at the heart of it, when you think about competitiveness from a usage and adoption, we believe, and we're seeing healthy traction in usage and adoption of vulnerability management and new customer adoption of vulnerability management solutions. It gets a bit apples and oranges because this is the challenge when you actually have allocations as you do more platform sales, more solution sales, more packages. And so then you're actually attributing. And what I would just say there is that it really doesn't make sense to actually do the allocation base because, again, it's just more of an allocation base from a revenue perspective. So the way that we actually are really measuring this is. Well, this year, which, again, is sort of start off a bit more challenge, but we're seeing the right ramp and the right trends and the right trajectory. But as we actually go forward, is that we expect us to grow better than the overall vulnerability management market in the long term, because we actually have a better overall growth profile and opportunity. Yes, we have to actually get through these near term changes. Yes, the economy is in some ways, but we think we have a very healthy setup for that. And that's the main thing versus actually talking about, like, how do you actually allocate dollars to specific line items? Thanks for the question.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Roger Boyd with UBS. Roger, go ahead.

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Roger Boyd

Great. Thanks for taking the question. Corey, I'd love to go back on MSSPs for a second. A lot of your competitors in VM, cloud, SIEM, et cetera, are also emphasizing the growth opportunities they see in this channel. I wonder if you could just talk about the competitive environment there with MSPs and what makes Rapid7 a better partner versus some of your competitors? That'd be great, thanks.

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Rapid7

Yeah, I think there's one, I appreciate the opportunity to answer the question. So the first thing is when you think about MSPs, let's just talk about what they need as a side. Not all people will be successful at MSSPs. You're seeing a lot of movement in the market where almost every, I would say, channel partner, tech company, VAR, even lots of tech companies are doing more managed services. And just to be clear, that's because customers need it. So let's just understand that this is an area of core customer need. Now let's talk about why Rapid7 is ideally positioned and why we're having lots of momentum and, in fact, why we're putting even more investment in this area. We're not interested in commodity low value managed services that do a poor job of security for customers. We wanna have world-class services that are good. We're also not interested in low margin businesses. And so what we've actually had to really focus on over time in Rapid7 is how do you actually build an integrated platform? So the first thing I'll say on differentiation is very few people in the market actually offer an integrated solution that spans all security operations. which is what lots of these partners are looking for. So if you think about our solution, it gives them a compelling solution that allows them to compete in detection and response, the overall cloud security space, the traditional vulnerability management space, the risk and compliance space, and even now with some of our partnerships and some of our enhancements with Minerva, the endpoint space. It gives them the ability to go to customers with a holistic solution. That's critical, and that's what actually our partners look for. The second thing that partners need, though, is they don't want poor margins. And so what we've actually built in is heavy automation for ourselves. Again, we looked at ourselves as a Lighthouse customer. We have... highly competitive, highly attractive managed service and MDR solutions that have a high win rate, but also run at very, very high gross margins. And so when you think about competitive positions, we have a comprehensive solution with a lot of automation intelligence that can be run at high gross margins. And we set ourselves up to actually partner well with those service providers to do that. This is why we actually have lots of the brand. This is why we actually have a competitive advantage. And that's also why we're accelerating our investments in those partnerships. Because, yes, it's a little bit disruptive in the short term, but it gives us long term scale in the business. And that's incredibly important to us.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Alex Henderson with Needham. Alex, your line is open.

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Alex Henderson

Great. Just start off with a clarification. You said your demand trends are stable. and you were comfortable, but I was hoping you could just tell us, is your pipeline as robust coming out of the June quarter as it was, say, coming out of the first quarter or out of the end of the year, so that there's no change in that trajectory as we go into the restructuring. So the change in revenue is only a function of the destabilization, not a pipeline issue. And could you talk a little bit about the linearity during the quarter? Was there any fall off in orders or closure rates late in the quarter that we should be aware of? Thanks.

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Rapid7

No, super fair quality questions, Alex, considering the amount of things that we announced today. So the first thing I would just say is our overall pipeline is actually stable to up and our conversion rates are improved coming out of the quarter. So we actually feel very good about the conversion rates. We feel good about the pipeline coming out. So, again, the trends in the business are healthy from that perspective. Just to put a fine point on it, because I think the fair question you're asking is like a how much of the guy down is the structural changes in risk management? And how much of the guy down is sort of like just trends that you actually saw? And so just to be very specific about that is that it is about the structural risk management. And look, here's what it comes down to is we actually have a good opportunity. The year was already back in loaded. We saw good trends. we actually don't want to be overly precise about an 18% cut and what the implications of that are. And so the question that we actually exited after we decided sort of like how to set up 2024, how to set up a free cash flow, is what's inappropriate from a guidance perspective? knowing that we're actually going to be going through changes. I would say, Alex, there's no precision that you can actually do to say, like, take a million off, take a million two off. We said, listen, we want to actually give a number that even with the changes, with a range of outcomes, and knowing, by the way, that in every quarter, I'll answer your other questions. Let me just answer your other question. Your other question was, what was the linearity? We saw great and consistent conversion rates throughout the quarter. Nothing fell off in the last week. In fact, we have had another consistent period of very strong closes on the thing. That said, is some things actually close, some things push. And that's what we expected. But in a year that's already back in loaded where you can actually have things push and still close. What we didn't want to do was be over precise about what the impact of a change of this magnitude was. And so we actually asked the opposite question. It's all right. what's the range of outcomes if actually some things go well, some things don't, some things take longer, some things push, and we actually want to have a high confidence guidance range. That was a primary driver of guidance that we actually saw. Did I answer all that?

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Alex Henderson

That's great. Just one last question, if I could stick it in. The timing of these restructurings, given the announcement here is in August, is most of the cost improvement then going to start kicking in in the fourth quarter and into 24, or do you get some of it in the current quarter?

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Corey

Yeah, Alex, you'll get a little bit in the third quarter. The majority of the team, the 18% is happening right now this week. You'll have some folks that are transitioning through the balance of the year, but then you get the full quarter impact in Q4, and of course for next year as well, which you see in the free cash flow guide for next year. Thank you, Alex.

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Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Rob Owens with Piper Sandler. Rob, go ahead.

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Rob Owens

Hey, thanks for taking my question. This is Ethan on for Rob. I wanted to ask about net new customer additions. They looked pretty strong here, both on a sequential basis and a year-over-year basis. So I was kind of hoping you could add some more color there. Where did you see strength? Was it with the new packages, with the MDR services? just curious if there's anything to call out there and why there's such stark improvement. Thank you.

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Rapid7

Yeah, you know, it was a little bit surprising probably from what we had commented on about really rotating our focus on expanding the customer install base. What I would say, and I want to just remind you, is that we started with the focus first on the packages. And the follow-on motion in training and enabling was about how do we actually engage deeper and sell more into our install base. So that motion really got started in Q2. So I would expect the trend to change over time. but I probably was a little bit imprecise in the timing on the last call, um, because that motion was started. So I still expect us to see, in fact, we saw a little bit more, but I would expect to see a skew towards, um, expansion, uh, in the install base over the next year. But we did actually, that was a follow-on motion from the package motion that we actually did to start, um, the year. And then to answer your question, it was pretty broad base across regions, products, and territory. So I can't really localize it to one thing. Um, what I would just say is that the, um, Our sales team has a lot of confidence and a lot of momentum. I would say we're focusing heavy on expansion as we actually go forward, but that may rotate over at a slower pace is the way that I would take away from this quarter. Thank you for the question.

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Operator

All right. Thank you. Your final question comes from the line of Brian Essex with JP Morgan. Brian, go ahead.

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Brian Essex

Hey, Grace. Thanks for taking the question. And cory i just want to fall into that actually last topic um you know echo my my congrats on some healthy net new ads here from a customer perspective um just want to get a sense any anything you can provide us for you know attach rates within the install base um how much running room do you have to go to kind of you know upgrade existing customers uh with with adoption of packages and are you seeing anything in your pipeline that's yielding greater confidence in sales productivity from a selling the platform perspective.

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Rapid7

Yeah, so one, I actually think we have a massive amount of runway. Part of what we actually are sawing, and sometimes, you know, you use words like restructuring, you miss sort of like the realignment and optimization pieces. But a big opportunity that we actually see is that, look, for better or for worse, it actually worked. But we actually spent the last couple of years both doing innovation that made us relevant. We have relevant offerings today in areas. Yes, there's continuing work to do, but we actually set ourselves up for relevance to make sure that we're in growth markets as we actually go forward. And we had to actually do that by selling into areas that, frankly, vulnerability management did not buy us lots of tailwinds. When you think about the sale market, when you think about detection response, when you think about MBR, when you think about automation, when you think about cloud, there's a setup there, but we have to get traction. We have traction and we actually have momentum. A part of what we're doing in this restructuring is a lot of realignment. We have not honed our engine to actually really focus on expansion in the install base. And that's an opportunity that's in front of us. So a big part of what we actually did our baseline and we did our research when we look at best practices and benchmarks is we actually have a lot of ground that we can actually gain this relatively straightforward for a company of our size when it comes from the internal operationalization of how we actually expand and operationalize in our install base. And we're applying that. It's not rocket science, but it's applicable. But now is the right time to actually do that because we actually have established critical mass. Keep in mind, most companies when they add new product extensions never get critical mass. We actually have critical mass in growth areas. And this is a good place to really focus about how do we expand in the install base. And most of that opportunity is in front of us. Again, at over half a million dollars ARR per customer and still being sub 100K ARR per customer and having historically, frankly, immature processes around expansion, not a lot of focus. Focus, maturing our processes, focusing on our alignment, our pricing and packaging. Those are the areas that we're focusing on to drive that expansion in the install base. And that is a big part of the restructuring alignment.

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Corey

Yeah. Corey, and to your point, you see it in that ARR per customer continues to grow, which has been very healthy. But there's so much room to grow from the mid-60s into the 100,000 numbers. Yep, absolutely. A lot of headroom to go.

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Rapid7

But thank you for the question, Brian. All right, I think that that is all the questions that we actually have for today. Look, I know this was a lot to cover. I'm deeply appreciative of everyone's time and attention, and I hope all of you have a great evening.

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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