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spk03: Good afternoon. Thank you for attending the SGH first quarter fiscal 2023 earnings call. My name is Matt and I'll be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Suzanne Schmidt. Suzanne, please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on today's earnings conference call and webcast to discuss SGH's first quarter fiscal 2023 results. On the call today are Mark Adams, Chief Executive Officer, Jack Pacheco, Chief Operating Officer, and Ken Risby, Chief Financial Officer. You can find the accompanying slide presentation and press release for this call on the investor relations section of our website. We encourage you to go to the site throughout the quarter for the most current information on the company. I would also like to remind everybody to read the use of forward-looking statements note that is included in the press release in the earnings call presentation. Please note that certain of the statements made today may constitute forward-looking statements and that these statements are the company's present expectations and that actual events or results may differ materially. We will also discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for, or superior to our GAAP results. We encourage you to consider all measures when analyzing our performance. A reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's press release. And with that, let me turn the call over to Mark Adams CEO, Mark.
spk09: Thanks, Suzanne. And thank you all for joining us today. I hope you all had a nice holiday. Over the past two plus years, we have been on a journey to transform SGH from a memory module company into a more diversified set of specialty businesses spanning compute, LED lighting, and memory. While each line of business is unique, SGH benefits from what they all have in common. First, they all develop advanced technology solutions at the system or subsystem level in order to address specific customer requirements. And second, they are all built on SGH's core competencies in engineering, design, and world-class manufacturing. SGH's diversified business model has driven higher quality revenue with more attractive gross margins. Our diversity has helped us perform steadily in a challenging macroeconomic environment. For example, in our Q1 earnings, our enterprise related businesses were able to offset declines in our more consumer facing businesses. In the first quarter of our fiscal 2023, revenues totaled $465 million. which exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range. We also achieved record non-GAAP gross margins of 27.8% and non-GAAP earnings per share of 79 cents, both of which came in above the high end of our guidance range. I also want to highlight that with the integration of Stratus Technologies into Intelligent Platform Solutions, or IPS, the services portion of our Q1 business now represents approximately 16% of overall SGH revenues and 32% of IPS revenues, a record achievement and a clear demonstration of the increasing value we are providing our customers. Now let me turn to a brief review of each of our businesses, starting with IPS. Our IPS group designs and delivers complete hardware, software, and services for high-performance computing, or HPC, and artificial intelligence, or AI, applications from the data center to the cloud and at the edge. In Q1, IPS brands Penguin Computing and Stratis Technologies performed well, and IPS revenue came in at a record $211 million for the first quarter, up 46% sequentially and up 78% compared to our Q1 fiscal 22. IPS represented 45% of total SGH revenue, the largest component of our business in Q1. As we've indicated on previous calls, we see the IPS business stronger in the first half of fiscal 2023, driven by large customer hardware installations. In particular, heading into our second fiscal quarter ending in February, We are seeing strong continued demand driven primarily by installations at some of our hyperscale and federal customers. As you have been hearing from other technology companies of late though, overall visibility for demand out into calendar 2023 remains uncertain. In November, Penguin Solutions participated in the Super Compute 2022 show, the annual international supercomputing conference. where we demonstrated our strength in HPC and AI-enabled solutions. We made several key announcements, including the launch of Penguin's new skilled cloud central control plane, which provides management and orchestration across an organization's on-premise and cloud-based resources to create flexible hybrid HPC and AI environments. A partnership with Google Cloud that gives our customers more choices for rapid cluster deployments with Penguin Services, a pay-as-you-go model, and point-and-click integration with dozens of common HPC and AI applications, tools, and libraries. And the acquisition of Colorado Codecraft, a small private company specializing in safeguarded remote work and collaboration software solutions. The addition of Colorado Codecraft solutions is expected to enhance Penguin's Virtual Desktop Infrastructure, or VDI, capabilities and expand our IP portfolio. The integration of Stratus technologies into IPS remains on track. With the addition of Stratus, IPS has a comprehensive portfolio of edge, HPCAI, and cloud solutions and services to meet the end-to-end needs of an even broader customer base. Penguin and Stratus are now actively working together to identify new business opportunities and revenue synergies. In addition, one of our top priorities is to increase our recurring services businesses as a larger component of the solutions we offer our customers. Now turning to our LED solutions group, which produces application optimized LEDs for products like specialty lighting, video screens, gaming displays, outdoor and architectural lighting. Cree LED faced continued headwinds in China with COVID related policies contributing to supply chain constraints and impacting demand for the entire industry. In addition to continuing softening in China, we are also seeing demand weakness in the US and in Europe. For the first quarter of fiscal 2023, LED solutions revenues totaled $63 million. In Q2, we expect revenue to be lower driven by declining demand and further channel inventory reductions. Given this challenging macroeconomic environment for the LED business, we have been proactively containing costs and adjusting our ongoing operating expenses accordingly. While optimizing our business for the current environment, we continue to invest in developing innovative technologies for Cree LED's key target markets of specialty, high-value applications, including entertainment and horticulture, premium video applications such as fine-pitch outdoor lighting designs, and high-performance general lighting applications such as architectural and street lighting. During the first quarter, the team launched spectrum-optimized photo-fill LEDs across high- and mid-power platforms for horticultural applications and introduced a new X-Lamp CMB product family with higher power, higher performance COB or chip-on-board devices. Cree LED remains a technology and brand leader with strong intellectual property, and we remain confident in the long-term operating performance of the LED business once macroeconomic headwinds recede. In our memory solutions group, revenue came in at $192 million, or 41% of total SGH sales. As expected, sales declined from Q4 fiscal 22 levels primarily due to a reduction in the worldwide memory pricing and softening demand. Our core specialty memory business, which is focused on enterprise and markets, remains relatively stable. Demand remains solid in the networking and telecom segments. On the technology front, we continue to see growing interest in Smart's new family of DuraFlash, PCIe, NVMe and SATA products across various form factors. Longer term, we remain focused on expanding our memory business into enterprise compute applications to meet the growing demand within the data center and in the cloud for AI and machine learning capabilities. Customer interest in our Compute Express Link or CXL products continues to grow as we have multiple designs underway in order to support memory expansion, and acceleration for data center and cloud service provider applications. We also expanded our DDR5 module lineup for blade storage and computing applications and recently introduced a new family of data center SSDs for hyperscaler, hyperconverged enterprise and edge computing data center applications. The global weakness in PCs and mobile phones impacted our business in Brazil. Looking into Q2, we expect further softening, which is historically also a seasonally lower demand quarter. As one of the largest memory companies in Brazil, we continue to invest for the long term. Our Manaus factory has completed a number of key product certifications, and we see ongoing demand in Brazil for locally produced SSDs, with customers preparing to move to the latest Gen 4 products in calendar year 2023. We are also seeing initial shipments of memory for 5G mobile phones with the expectation of increasing market adoption in calendar year 2023. I'll stop here and hand it over to Ken for a more detailed review of our Q1 financial performance and our guidance for next quarter. Ken?
spk06: Thanks, Mark. I will focus my remarks on our non-GAAP results, which are reconciled to GAAP in our earnings release tables. Now let me turn to our first quarter fiscal 23 results. Despite the macroeconomic headwinds, we reported a strong quarter in fiscal Q1, helped by the diversification of our business, strong execution, and the strength of our IPS segment, which includes our recent acquisition of Stratus. Net sales were $465 million, and non-GAAP gross margin came in at a record 27.8%. above the high end of our guidance. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were 79 cents for the first quarter, also above the high end of our guidance. In addition, beginning in the first quarter of 2023, we will be disclosing our overall SGH revenue and cost of sales by product and services. Our services revenue includes longer-term services as well as point-in-time services such as logistics and implementation services. With the addition of Stratus in the first quarter of 2023, our overall service revenues reached $75 million, up from the $33 million in the year-ago quarter. First quarter revenue by product and services were as follows. Product revenues were $390 million, and service revenues were $75 million. First quarter revenue by business unit was as follows. IPS had a record $211 million, LED $63 million, and memory $192 million. This translates into a sales mix of approximately 45% IPS, 13% LED, and 41% memory. Non-GAAP gross margin for SGH in the first quarter of 2023 was a record 27.8%, up from 27% in the year-ago quarter, helped by the inclusion of Stratus within IPS, but offset by lower sales from LED. Non-GAAP operating expenses for the first quarter were $74.4 million, up from $61.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2022, and from $57.9 million in the year-ago quarter. Operating expenses were up primarily due to the inclusion of Stratus, which accounted for $18.7 million of operating expenses in the first quarter. Operating expenses also benefited in the first quarter of 2023 from $2.6 million in financial credits in Brazil, which was up from $2 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 22, but down from $5.9 million in the year-ago quarters. This credit is expected to provide approximately $1 to $2 million of benefit in our second quarter of fiscal 2023. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share for the first quarter of 2023 was 79 cents per share, compared with $1.08 per share in the year-ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of 2023 was $63 million, or 14% of sales, compared to $77 million, or 16% of sales in the year-ago quarter. And now, turning to working capital. Our net accounts receivables totaled $306 million, compared with $410 million last quarter. Day sales outstanding came in at 33 days, down from 14 days last quarter, primarily due to the timing of collections, or IPS. Inventory totaled $416 million at the end of the first quarter, up from $323 million at the end of the prior quarter. This increase outlined during our last earnings call was driven primarily by inventory required to support our IPS revenue in the second quarter. We would expect inventory to come down significantly by the end of the second quarter. Inventory turns were seven times in the first quarter versus 8.5 times in the prior quarter. And consistent with past practice, net accounts receivables, days outstanding, and inventory turnover are calculated on a gross sales and cost of goods sold basis, which were $843 million and $725 million, respectively, for the first quarter. And as a reminder, the difference between gross revenue and net sales is related to our logistics services, which is accounted for on an agent basis, meaning that we only recognize the net profit on logistics services as net sales. Cash and cash equivalents total $325 million at the end of the first quarter, compared with $363 million at the end of the prior quarter. First quarter cash flow used in operations totaled $74 million compared with cash provided by operations of $20.9 million in the prior quarter. The primary reason for this was the prepayment of the $101.8 million earn out note from the CREE LED acquisition. We accounted for a majority of this prepayment in our operating cash flow given it was a contingent consideration. In addition, in the first quarter, we increased overall inventories to support expected demand for IPS in the second quarter of fiscal 2023. In the first quarter, we repurchased 182,000 shares, spending $2.8 million during the quarter. In aggregate, we have spent approximately $53 million under our $75 million share repurchase authorization through the first quarter, repurchasing approximately 2.8 million shares. For those of you tracking capital expenditures and depreciation, capital expenditures were 11.6 million in the first quarter and depreciation was $8.9 million. In the first quarter of 2023, in conjunction with the acquisition of Stratus, we also expanded our existing term loan credit facilities by $300 million. We used the net proceeds to retire the 101.8 million outstanding pre-LED earn-out note, and along with cash on hand, paid for the $225 million purchase of Stratus. The term loan aid facility bears an interest at SOFR plus 2.25% based on a total leverage grid. For the second quarter, we would expect our total cash net interest expense to be approximately $8 million based on current SOFR rate. Turning to our second quarter 2023 guidance. We expect the net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2023 will range from approximately $410 million to $460 million or approximately $435 million at the midpoint. Our guidance for this next quarter incorporates the continued strong demand in our IPS business offset by lower demand in our memory and LED businesses. Our gap gross margin for the second quarter is expected to be approximately 25 to 27%. Non-gap gross margin for the second quarter is expected to be approximately 26 to 28%. Our non-gap operating expenses for the second quarter are expected to be approximately $75 million, plus or minus $3 million, and up slightly from the first quarter in part due to the timing of non-recurring engineering costs to support our IPS business. GAAP diluted earnings per share for the second quarter is expected to be approximately 13 cents, plus or minus 15 cents. And on a non-GAAP basis, excluding share-based compensation expense, intangible asset amortization expense, debt discount, and other adjustments, we expect diluted earnings per share will be approximately 60 cents plus or minus 15 cents. This also includes the benefit of approximately $3 million from an asset sale accounted for in non-operating income. Our GAAP and non-GAAP diluted share count for the second quarter is expected to be approximately 50 million shares based on our current stock price. Cash capital expenditures for the second quarter are expected to be in the range of $12 to $15 million in part due to expenditures to migrate Cree LED into its own U.S. facility. We continue to manage our operations in a prudent manner as we navigate a challenging environment while also continuing to invest in our long-term growth. Our forecast for the second quarter of fiscal 2023 is based on the current environment, which contemplates the global macroeconomic headwinds and continued supply chain constraints. Please refer to our non-GAAP financial information section and reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures tables in our earnings release for further details. Now, let me turn it over to Mark for a few remarks prior to Q&A.
spk09: Thanks, Ken. we remain very excited about the future of SGH. As we have mentioned, our fiscal 23 is front-end loaded with some large IPS installations. And like many technology companies, we have limited visibility into the demand environment in the second half of our fiscal 2023. With that in mind, I want to reiterate our commitment to our shareholders that we will remain vigilant in how we operate the company in the near term while investing for long-term success. I do want to highlight that this quarter, despite the macroeconomic headwinds, whether China's COVID environment, weakening consumer demand, or increasing interest rates, our team accomplished record non-GAAP gross margins. We credit our CapEx Lite model, our diverse set of businesses, and our continued focus on delivering value-added, differentiated products and services that enabled our solid operating performance in these challenging times. Operator, we are now ready for Q&A.
spk03: Absolutely. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by 2. Again, to ask a question, press star 1. As a reminder, if you're using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. We will pause here briefly as questions are registered. The first question is from the line of Brian Chin from Spiegel. Your line is now open.
spk04: Good afternoon. Thanks for letting us ask some questions, and congratulations on the results. Maybe first question, Mark. It looks like you expect NICS in the February quarter to be fairly consistent with the November quarter. And margins down a little bit. Is that just sort of like on service versus hardware mix with an IPS? Or is there another consideration there? And then I have a follow-up question.
spk09: Yeah, let me take the first part of the question, which is around just the relative performance of the business. As we go into our second quarter, obviously, we have a very consumer focused business, facing business in the Brazil mobile phone and PC business, which has historically been a little bit softer in the quarter anyway. And then the LED business is demonstrating very similar characteristics. So the overall trend line in the business from Q1 to Q2 is kind of on the same trajectory. Relative to mix and margins, I'll let Ken chime in.
spk05: Thanks for the call.
spk06: Yeah, if we look at the trajectory from Q1 to Q2, there's very little movement in the margin profile, but it says Mark highlighted that's a couple of factors, one being we're expecting the LED business to be down slightly Q1 to Q2, and margins will come down given the fixed costs on the back end. And then two, you hit it earlier, which is on the services piece. We have some of the services that are more one-time in nature. So we would expect services revenue overall for the company to be down slightly. And so those are both mixed related items based on the revenue profile.
spk04: Okay, thanks. That's helpful. And then for the follow-up, are you a little surprised or are you anticipating the softer memory prices and kind of your pass through your customers? Do you think that will become more of a headwind in either the February or May quarters? in the memory solutions business. And also, you know, I know you've alluded to consistently that the fiscal first half is stronger for IPS based on the way some of those projects are sort of setting up. I know it's kind of hard to make a firm commitment here, but do you think sort of that, you know, first half, second half mix could be something like a 55% revenue first half versus 45% second half? Just trying to get some idea of sort of how severe that first half, second half dynamic could be.
spk09: So I'll take the first part relative to the memory market. As you can see from the pure semi players in the memory space, the pricing environment is pretty challenging. And we see that in Brazil. We see it both in terms of the top line revenue and also the overall demand environment. from broader macro. So it's very challenging in a consumer-facing business like that. And the specialty business, actually, we have seen some of the pricing pressures you're referring to, but less so. More stability, not perfect, but more stability in the pricing and memory versus consumer when you look at specialty pricing. And our margins actually are pretty good in the specialty memory business. Gross margins are pretty good As it's our pricing, as the revenue kind of stabilizes, the gross margin contribution for our services that we provide, the value that we provide actually drive gross margins slightly up in that sense. And so I would say consumer pricing doesn't feel great right now in the memory space if I just listen to the larger semi people and their reports. but in our business, it's less impactful, and the specialty business has been more stable.
spk06: Yeah, Brian, in terms of the IPS breakout, you know, it's still a little bit too early to call the second half, but, you know, if you ask me today, it's probably in that 55-45 or 60-40 range as we see it today, but as I mentioned, you know, we don't have clear visibility as we look out two quarters. We had pretty good visibility into Q2 and pretty good visibility into Q3, and we're still building the backlog and the bookings as we head out into Q4 and 2024 as well.
spk04: I guess in terms of component availability, if you did have kind of quote-unquote turns business, you'd probably be in a better position to fulfill that now than six months ago.
spk06: Yeah, that's right. I would say if you looked at the supply chain today, the supply chain today is much better than it was six months ago. There's still some components out there and shortages within specific semiconductor and other parts, but definitely much better today than it was six months ago.
spk03: Great. Thank you. Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open.
spk07: Yes, thanks for taking my question. Congratulations on the great results. I'll stay on the IPS and visibility into the second half of the year. Can you give us a little more description of maybe what you're seeing as far as RFQs go from both the public and private sector? And then also, are there service contracts that are up for renewal as you go out into the second half of the year?
spk09: Thanks for the questions, Kevin. I think the way I would suggest is that the RFQ process is fairly stable. I wouldn't say it's increasing, but fairly stable. Where I think the visibility gets challenged both in federal and commercial is, you know, the implementation, the project schedules that we just can't see. We're just trying to be careful and cautious on a better understanding that three quarters out. And so we're giving you some guidance on Q2 here, but we're just trying to be careful in this environment, you know, to make sure that the deliveries that we have and we're looking at in the back half, will go off as planned, and so we're just monitoring that, you know, kind of week to week, month to month. That's the kind of game we're in right now. As it relates to the service piece of the business, a lot of the services we have, not all, but a lot of them are, you know, kind of on schedules. I'll let Ken talk to that in a second, but they're on schedules, and that's where we get a little bit more color and predictability. on the recurring nature of those services, and that's really a strength of the business that we're continuing to look to build.
spk06: Yeah, so, Kevin, thanks for the call. If we look at the services component and you look at those that have higher visibility, and I would exclude things like implementation services or logistics services that come in, but can come in in any period in a different size, it's probably in the neighborhood of I would say in that $50 million range, plus or minus, that are more on an annual recurring basis, or we have better visibility even looking out to a year. So I think that's one of the things that we've highlighted over the last year and a half here is trying to build a more recurring revenue base. And with Stratus, along with what the team at IPS and even within the memory business has been doing, we We have a lot more services, which hopefully provides more stickiness and more value and demonstrates the value we're providing to our customer base.
spk07: Okay, thanks for the call. Maybe turning to the specialty memory, there are two exciting things happening in the memory market with DDR5 and also a CXL. you're still staying as a custom solution for those products. Is that correct first? And then what do you see as activity for custom versions of the DDR5 and CSL?
spk09: Look, I think, Kevin, the long-term view of specialty memory for us is really, really pretty positive. Obviously, all of us have seen the cyclicality in the broader memory markets, and we're kind of in that place today where there's just a lot of oversupply, pretty much demand-driven, and then the capacity and the memory players are adjusting accordingly. In the short term, again, as we said, pricing will be a challenge, demand in the consumer space will be a challenge. But as you've noted, there's a number of trends that speak to a positive demand, you know, over, you know, over a longer term horizon, and that being 5G and mobile, that being enterprise and high performance, especially computing driven by AI machine learning, and then just broader need for high performance memory, high bandwidth memory, enabling compute, you know, the challenges that are out there in terms of even high-performance computing that we get pretty good exposure with in the Penguin business. We see the demands on memory, and as you're referring to, controller-based memory, compute express links, CXL-like applications. A lot of the, you know, DDR5, CXL, 5G, the demands are good. Automotive, all of those will be long-term tailwinds on the demand side. But right now, we're in a market that just is – you know, oversupplied and it's kind of, they're not able to call the turn, so to speak. And so we're going to be careful on how we see it in the short term. But we like the specialty business. We think it's, you know, performed much better over the last couple of years under Jack's leadership. And we're pretty positive about that in terms of the long-term prognosis. It's just the market conditions we're in are hard to call. Okay. Thanks. Yeah.
spk07: Thank you, Kevin.
spk03: Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of with Needham and Company. Your line is now open.
spk08: Yes, thank you, and congrats again, and Happy New Year. Just a question on the good progression in the services revenue. I think based on my numbers, the service revenue has really grown, almost probably doubled or tripled over the last several quarters. And now you're starting to break it out. Can you talk a little bit about how Stratus is helping contributing to that? And then, you know, can you mention, you know, kind of two components of the services, the long term service contracts, and then you have the point in time, I believe, is what you mentioned, can you maybe elaborate further and kind of what you're seeing within the mix of services and how you're kind of catering to business on a go forward basis?
spk09: Well, thanks for the question, Ravi. I'll answer the first part and let Ken talk to the back half of the question. You know, Stratus' business, the value add has been their ability to maintain, you know, high availability, fault-tolerant type availability. The industry calls it 5-9s, which is 99.59% of uptime, and they do that through a lot of remote monitoring, proactive system management capabilities that they have, and they also have a pretty good software platform for doing so. And so we are definitely evaluating how we can take advantage of that to scale beyond just their platform at Stratus into more IPS-specific customer environments. The combination of two has really put us in a really good position to drive continued value-added services. Relative to the nature of these agreements, I'll let Ken comment.
spk06: Yeah, so, Roger, I think you mentioned it. If we look back at the transcript, a year ago we had about $33 million of services, and in this quarter it's closer to $75 million. And within that, there are what I would say longer-term contracts. Those can be up to a year, sometimes even longer than that, where we're providing a variety of services for our customers, some of which Mark has mentioned just before. And that's the number I provided to Kevin just a few minutes ago. That's probably those longer-term services are probably in that $45 to $50 million range, a quarter. And then there are more kind of one-time or point-in-time type of services that can occur every quarter. And so that's a rough split of the services component. But it just shows or hopefully showcases the value that we continue to provide our customers. It's beyond the hardware. And those services really provide some stickiness with our customer base.
spk08: Yeah, I appreciate that. And for my follow-up, on the gross margins, the gross margins, I believe, have kind of hit close to a record, you know, given the strong mix of services at nearly 28%, and you've got to get to 27%. I know that the IPS segment is lumpy, and therefore the margins associated with that revenue stream are also lumpy. But when we go into the May and the August quarter and the November quarter, are there potential offsets to that IPS lumpiness? You talked about, obviously, more longer-term services revenue. Or should we be kind of modeling more seasonality in the margins in the second half, given kind of the drop-off in IPS? Just kind of curious how you think about the short-term and the long-term. Thank you. Sure.
spk06: So, Raj, I think as you look at The transition from Q1 to Q2, part of that is the mix that I mentioned around services overall. And we'd expect the overall services component to come down a bit, Q1 to Q2. And the other piece that we, I think, highlighted on the transcript was that the LED business is expected to be down a bit. And therefore, given some of the fixed costs we have on the back end side, even though we have no front end manufacturing, we have some fixed costs on the back end side. So we would expect margins for that business to come down as revenues come down into Q2. And that is what is driving the margin profile down a bit Q1 to Q2, but still If you look back even a couple years ago, this business was doing 19, 20% gross margins. And in Q2, we're guiding to 27% on an on-gap basis at the pit. So very healthy margins, much different business today than it has been in the past. As we look out in time, there will still be some lumpiness as it relates to IPS. I think we've talked about that on a number of our calls based on how much hardware we have, how much services we have, which can be point in time for that business as well. But, you know, I feel like we are hopefully at a much healthier state in terms of the margin profile, just based on what we're guiding to for Q2, which is, as I mentioned, 27% plus or minus a point.
spk08: got it and just if i could just squeeze one more and then i'll step back into the challenges in the brazil business it it looks like i know you don't break out the brazil business anymore with respect to specialty but it looks like brazil is coming down you know 40 50 something in that in that range and more pressure you know in the pc consumer um i'm curious you know you did then also talk about some you know trends in 5g and in other areas. So I'm curious how you're thinking about the Brazil market consumer. Do you think we're approaching a bottom? Is the inventory kind of cleared out there and then we're going to have a little bit of a rebuild and more of a secular push to 5G as Brazil catches up to the rest of the world? I'm curious how you're thinking about the Brazil business. Thanks again. Yeah, I think the way we look at it is
spk09: The consumer memory business is most aligned with the challenges in the broader memory supply and demand dynamics, just given the end markets and the amount of memory those markets consume in terms of the overall industry supply. And so we think that as we sit here today, you know, as the supply and demand balance hopefully normalizes, that business will recover in addition to we think we're pretty well positioned down there and yes, you know, you know, you've looked at the, the, the memory, uh, competitors or the suppliers of memory semiconductors and their revenues down, you know, uh, significantly, and you see that in our consumer business. Um, but the, the dynamics of us with 5g, uh, with SSDs coming on and announced and starting to, uh, to, to, to be able to build that business up as PCs and, and servers get back into, into a positive demand. It's kind of hard for us to say that this next quarter is the bottom, but coming through the holidays and to your point about inventory, I would just say we're hoping that we're bouncing around the bottom here and hoping that Q3 is where we start to see an uptick. But the visibility for us is as tough as it is for the pure memory guys.
spk00: Okay, thanks, Rajeev. Next question.
spk03: Thank you for your question. As a reminder, it is star 1 on your telephone keypad to ask a question. The next question is from the line of Sidney Ho with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.
spk02: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe start off with the collaboration one. How much does Stratus contribute to revenue in fiscal Q1 versus your expectation of 35 to 40? It looks like the organic business performed better than you expected, and I'll ask a few more questions about that.
spk06: Sure. That revenue came in closer to that $45 million number for Q1. That did very well, and the margins were good.
spk09: And I would just also comment, Sidney, that we've got two parts of the business that we've talked about in the past. One is the data center, which is primarily service-driven, and there are some upgrades along the way. And then there's an edge business. And the growth that Ken just highlighted there in his response, the growth really came from upsides in their edge business, which is something more broadly we're really encouraged about as a long-term play in the fault-tolerant, high-availability edge products.
spk02: Great. Maybe just double-click on the entire IPS revenue, $211 million for Q1. Can you give us a rough breakdown by end market between federal spending versus hyperscale customers versus commercial? And are you seeing different trends between these end markets in terms of their ordering patterns?
spk09: I'd say we're not going to break out as you asked at that level, but we can give you the – The second part of your question, more on the trends, I think it goes back to what we're seeing as stable demand, you know, as far as we can see. But, you know, certainly we've given Ken's given guidance for Q2, and the kind of building of our funnel has been relatively stable. Again, my comment still holds from the earlier question. that, you know, in these types of market conditions, it's more around customer project management in terms of what they do in their budget process, and do they push things out, do they move things in, what have you. We see, you know, continued investment across the commercial enterprises, and not breaking those out in any particular format, and the government which had been somewhat muted a little bit during the COVID, the highest point of COVID over the last couple of years. We think this year will be positive in the first half, maybe in the Q3. But again, it's really hard to see what's going to happen. And it has to do with, you know, really our customer environments and how they're going to play their capital dollars and their investments.
spk02: Okay, that's helpful. Maybe switching gears to the LED business. You talk about the business being impacted by headwinds in China and maybe in the U.S. and Europe as well. How do you expect the reopening of China going to impact that business positively, I guess? Will you start seeing the benefit in the February quarter or more in the May quarter? And if you can touch on the profitability of the business, what are you doing to contain costs? That would be great.
spk09: Yeah, well, as we've talked about, we're not calling the bottom line. to show up here in February quarter. We've kind of guided it. This is actually because of the holidays and Chinese New Year's in the same quarter, given our fiscal quarters, we're not, you know, we're not seeing a bounce in this quarter. So I would be muted a little bit in terms of our calling the bottom here in the quarter. We'd like, we think that with distribution burning a fair amount of inventory in Q1 and still in the Q2, And as you said, China starting to open up a little bit. We could see some of that, you know, hopefully in our third quarter. And then, you know, as far as the things we're doing to manage our costs, you know, headcount, freeze, that type of thing, when we looked at the type of support we have in our back-end facilities and maybe we're optimizing around the number of lines we're running, The schedules we're running there, capital, looking at capital deployment and then how we can move that out in line with the market dynamics and just a number of things. And it's actually been a pretty meaningful number, but as you've highlighted and people highlighted in the call, the LED business has gotten hit very similarly to Brazil. So we're balancing out really good efforts on the cost containment with not trying to hurt the business for the long term. because we do think it will bounce back at some point here.
spk02: Okay, maybe one last one for me. Given the high interest rate, how should we think about interest expense going forward, and what portion of your debt is hedged at this point? Thank you.
spk06: Yeah, so I'll answer that. If you look at our net interest expense in the formal script, we'd expect that to be at about $8 million, so that's both the interest expense And interest income on a cash basis, about $8 million. And that's based on today's SOFR rates. So one of the things that we can't predict is where those rates will go. But what we have been doing a good job is with the cash on hand, getting better and better interest income over time. But for now, I would assume it's at that $8 million range of cash net interest expense per quarter. And that can fluctuate depending on what the Fed does. If you look at the kind of floating versus fixed on the debt, it's about 70% floating and 30% fixed. You know, the biggest piece of the fixed is that convertible note. That's at a fixed rate of 2.25%. And then our TLA, which is about $570 billion in size, that's at SOFR. plus two and a quarter percent. Okay, great. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you for your question. There are no additional questions waiting at this time, so I will pass the conference back to Mark Adams, CEO, for any closing remarks.
spk09: Well, again, thank you for joining us today. I'd like to thank all of our employees worldwide for a great first quarter, especially in these market conditions. I'd like to thank all of you for attending today and look forward to seeing you at various conferences. And for those of you who will see at CES, we'll see you then. Have a great day. Thank you.
spk03: That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.
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