SOPHiA GENETICS SA

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/8/2023

spk05: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining Sophia Genetics' second quarter 2023 earnings call. Our host for today is Catherine Bailon, head of investor relations. Ms. Bailon, you may begin.
spk00: Good morning, and thank you for joining us on Sophia Genetics' second quarter fiscal 2023 earnings call. My name is Catherine Bailon, and I am the head of investor relations at Sophia Genetics. Joining me today are Dr. Yurgi Kambla, our co-founder and chief executive officer, and Ross Mugen, our chief financial officer and chief operating officer. Before we get started, I'd like to remind you that the management team will make statements during this call that are forward-looking within the meaning of United States federal securities laws. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated. Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears in the section entitled Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking Statements in the form 6-K for the second quarter earnings release on file with the SEC. Except as required by law, SOFIA genetics disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any financial or product pipeline projections or other forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. This conference call contains time-sensitive information and is accurate only as of its broadcast, August 8, 2023. This presentation includes non-IFRS financial measures. These measures are calculated by management and do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS. These non-IFRS measures supplement IFRS measures but should not be viewed as substitutes for IFRS measures. We have included a reconciliation of IFRS measures to non-IFRS measures in our press release issued this morning, which is available on our website. Please note, both the replay of this call and the earnings release will be available on our website in the investor relations section. And with that, now I'll turn it over to Jordi.
spk01: Thank you, Catherine, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on our call today. I am pleased to share that our second quarter results came in strong with total revenue for the second quarter going 30% year-over-year on a constant currency basis after adjusting for COVID-19-related revenues. We delivered this growth while maintaining our fiscal discipline, resulting in meaningful expense reductions from the prior year period, and so I am equally pleased to tell you that our operating loss on an adjusted basis was $14.6 million, an improvement of 5 million or 25% from the second quarter of 2022 and an improvement of 1.6 million from the prior quarter. On today's call, I will start by reviewing our progress in the second quarter as it relates to our strong business execution and the continued customer adoption of our market-leading platform. I will then turn it over to Ross McCann, our Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer, to share our financial results for the period in more detail, followed by our outlook for the remainder of 2023, and we will end by taking your questions. Let me start with a review of the second quarter highlights. We added 16 new logos in the second quarter. Of our more than 750 customers, 434 are Core Genomics customers that utilize our platform regularly, through our dry lab bundle and integrated access modes. Our strong Q2 performance is also demonstrated by robust usage numbers across the board. For the second quarter of 2023, analysis volume across our core genomics customers across proxy for patients was 78,146, an all-time high up 18% year-over-year. When excluded COVID-related volumes, platform analysis volumes were 77,125 for the second quarter of 2023, up 27% year-over-year. I will now highlight some logo wins during the quarter across our geographies. In EMEA, we announced a new central lab in Italy that went live, Cupo Centro Servici Medici, CSM, one of Italy's largest. CSM is a consortium that brings together numerous laboratories throughout Sicily. It offers roughly 1,500 distinct types of tests to best serve the population. The use of SOFIA DDM will support CSM's expansion of next-generation sequencing offerings in hereditary cancers and allow them to materially improve turnaround time. In France, we added a new logo at the Centre Hospitalier de Bastia, a general hospital located in Corsica. They went live using SOFIA-DDM for myeloid malignancies. Also, in Nimiye, Ankara Ethnic City Hospital, the largest hospital in the capital city of Turkey, went live during the quarter. The hospital, which opened its doors in September 2022 and serves about 15,000 patients daily, will utilize multiple SOFIA-DDM applications to streamline genomics testing, especially associated with hereditary disorders. In the APAC Asia-Pacific region, which saw above company average growth in analysis volume in the quarter, I would like to share with you our excitement about the Peter MacCullum Cancer Center, otherwise known as Peter Mac, that goes live on Sophia DDM. Peter Mac is a world-leading cancer research, education, and treatment center based in Melbourne, Australia. They will be using SOFIA DDM to aid with testing that determines positive HRD status and will be focused on samples from women newly diagnosed with advanced ovarian cancer. Through our AI-enabled algorithms, Peter Mark oncologists will be able to know the HRD status of their patients' tumor, aiding in the determination of which of their stage 4 ovarian cancer patients are likely to benefit from treatment plans that include PARP inhibitors, a relatively new alternative to chemotherapy in the treatment of ovarian cancer. And also in APAC, I would like to highlight a customer expansion example with SOFIVA Genomics, a Taiwanese genomics reference lab that originally adopted SOFIA-DDM in Q1 2022, and that is now launching the SOFIVA Genomics HRD status test leveraging on SOFIA-DDM platform, best-in-class AI-based algorithms, to maximize the accuracy in defining the HRD status for ovarian cancer samples. In the LATAM region, which is also growing above company average, I would highlight for you NOMAD Genetics, an innovative reference lab specializing in genomics testing that is headquartered in Mexico City and Santiago de Chile. NOMAD Genetics will also be using SOFIA DDM for determining the HRD status of patients. Next, turning to the NORAM, North America region, I would like to highlight Tulane University School of Medicine, a new logo in Louisiana. Tulane was upgrading their sequencing platform and selected SOFIA DDM because we could enable quick rollout of hematological testing. With SOFIA DDM, Tulane can quickly sort and analyze NGS data, identify key biomarkers, and perform stratification, so that researchers can share data-driven recommendations with clinical researchers who are fighting over 100 types of blood cancers that are quickly progressing. Another NORAM win during the second quarter was Natural States Laboratories, a regional lab based in Little Rock, Arkansas. They chose Sophia DDM to help them expand their cancer testing capabilities, especially using it to launch in-house testing for hereditary cancers. Looking at the second quarter from the standpoint of genomics applications available on SOFIA DDM for oncology and rare inherited disorders, we saw both categories with data volumes growth approximately at the company average year-over-year. In oncology applications, newer subsegments like HRD and liquid biopsy exhibited volume growth in the triple digits, while comprehensive genomics profiling grew several times above the company average. Within the rare and inherited disorders category, exome-based beta was the fastest growth subsegment, a testament that science has quickly evolved and laboratories are more comfortable going beyond medium-large gene panels. While we are very excited about the increase of the SOFIA network and the increase on SOFIA DDM usage, I would like to take a step back and explain to you why this is important. When Sophia Genetics was founded, we intentionally began by servicing the clinical market through advanced cloud-based genomics data analytics in a decentralized setting. To date, using this unique approach, we have established a global network of over 750 healthcare institutions that have collectively used our Sophia DDM platform to analyze over 1.4 million genomic profiles. Another construct of our original idea was to be cloud-based. And to that end, we have been unwaiving to this commitment. We knew that the power of data could not be achieved if silos were tolerated. Artificial intelligence techniques such as deep learning, machine learning, pattern recognition, and statistical inference are being used for over 10 years to build our algorithms. Then, each analysis we do for our customers further trains our algorithms. The SOFIA DDM platform has demonstrated the superiority of non-siloed data in its use to decipher the best treatment considerations in oncology. Our analytical capabilities have been critical to successfully onboard world-leading partners, such as Memorians on Catherine, who, while not yet computing their data on SOFIA DDM, trusted our vision, our experience, and our capabilities to share their most precious data assets with us. Indeed, MSK choose to democratize their patient data set of over 75,000 profiles across data modalities, including genomic, clinical, treatment, and outcomes data by sharing them into the SOFIA DLM platform. The vision that we share with MSK is one in which academic institutions come together from across the world, powered by a decentralized cloud-based technology provider such as SOFIA, to share their data and knowledge. This will enable participating institutions to conduct collaborative research on bigger and more diverse datasets, accelerating the discovery of new insights. Additionally, this will enable biopharma companies to partner with these institutions to leverage their data and expertise in the pursuit of truly personalized diagnostics and treatments. The third element, which we see on the near horizon, is creating a data lake of a select group of world's leading cancer institutions, a consortium of the highest tier participants where they can have a safe sharing environment to further their science. These select leading centers, such as MSK, will contribute certain aspects of their data into the consortium. We're excited to serve as a trusted host of this burgeoning collegial protected data lake. We could not be more excited about the prospect of further building this global, large-scale, multimodal collective intelligence to advance cancer research. This desire of a collective intelligence across hospitals has already been proven by our ongoing DeepLung4 flagship initiative. We have now onboarded 30 hospitals across the world in this multicentric international initiative to develop multimodal machine learning models that are able to predict response to immunotherapy in advanced lung cancer. In this context, we have recently onboarded Polyclinico Gemelli in Rome, Italy, a top cancer center in Europe. Additionally, we are very excited to have now activated five centers across the LATAM region, which will further increase the data diversity on which our algorithms are trained. The recruitment of the study is going strong, and we expect to reach the milestone of 2,000 patients enrolled soon. We will be communicating a pre-specified interim analysis in Q4 of this year, and at that time, we intend to give a first solid perspective on the performance of our models. We are very much looking forward to updating you as soon as those results will be available. Beyond the interest of hospitals for this collective intelligence, we're also making great progress with our biopharma partners. We are currently working on several advanced opportunities to deploy our multimodal capabilities in several oncology applications through biopharma collaborations. Indeed, beyond immunotherapy in lung cancer, we have demonstrated that our multimodal predictive models can similarly be applied to a variety of other oncology indications such as breast, kidney, or brain cancer, among others, as well as different therapeutic modalities, such as different classes of targeted therapies, chemotherapy, and combinations thereof. Just this past quarter, a top five oncology pharma company sent their phase three clinical trial data outside their organization for our teams to analyze for the purposes of multimodal algorithm build. This was a first for both organizations and demonstrates that same trust in SOFIA to be good stewards of highly sensitive patient information. Turning to key events, during the quarter, we attended ASCO, the Conference of the American Society of Clinical Oncology, where our collaborators at the Centre Léon Bérard in Lyon, France, provided an important update on the clinical validation of HRD using samples from the PAULA-1 study, which was a study supporting the approval of AstraZeneca's PARPinivisor, Olaparib, as a first-line treatment for ovarian cancer. With all this momentum, you can sense what makes us super excited about the investments we are making today and their potential in the future. So, to conclude my section, we're experiencing the cusp of our data flywheel effect. I feel quite thrilled to see each incremental adoption of our data cloud model by some of the most prominent global cancer participants. I believe this to be a leading indicator for future success for Sofia Didier. And so in closing, I feel as excited today as ever that Sofia Genetics has the elements in place that will enable us to accomplish what we set out to do 12 years ago, to harness data from the global community to generate actionable insights that contribute meaningfully to patient care and patient outcomes. And now, I will turn the call over to Ross to discuss our financial performance in more detail.
spk03: Thank you, Yurgi, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to share that we again delivered strong performance in the second quarter, continuing our commitment to sustainable growth, turning to the financials, Total revenue for the second quarter of 2023 was $15.1 million compared to $11.7 million for the second quarter of 2022, representing year-over-year growth of 29%. Constant currency revenue growth was 27%, and constant currency revenue growth excluding COVID-19-related revenue was 30%. Platform analysis volume, including volumes from our integrated access customers, was 78,146 for the second quarter of 2023, compared to 66,165 for the second quarter of 2022. The 18% year-over-year growth was attributable to the strength of our core platform analysis volume offset by expected continued decline of our COVID-19-related analysis volume. Excluding COVID-related volume, platform analysis grew a healthy 27% year-over-year at the period. Core genomic customers were 434 as of June 30, 2023, up from 426 in the prior year period. This includes 13 new routine customers in the quarter. Annualized revenue churn rate was 3% during the second quarter of 2023, in line with our expectations. Net dollar retention for the second quarter improved sequentially on a reported basis to 114%. Constant currency net dollar retention, excluding COVID-related revenue, was 118%. Strong net dollar retention and a healthy level of backlog continue to provide us with a high level of revenue visibility going forward. Gross profit for the second quarter of 2023 was $10 million, compared to gross profit of $7.6 million in the second quarter of 2022, representing year-over-year growth of 32%. Gross margin was 67% for the second quarter of 2023, compared with 65% for the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted gross profit was $10.5 million, an increase of 34% compared to adjusted gross profit of $7.9 million in the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted gross margin was 70% for the second quarter of 2023, compared to 67% for the second quarter of 2022. Overall, I remain highly encouraged by our progress on gross margin expansion, and I'm increasingly confident in our medium-term goal of sustaining adjusted gross margins in excess of 70% for a full fiscal year. Total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2023 were $30.1 million, compared to $31.7 million for the second quarter of 2022. Headcount our most significant expense was down versus the prior year and down modestly sequentially. We continue to make progress on containing our discretionary expenditures and remain hyper-focused on maximizing capital efficiency while sustaining targeted growth levels. Turning to operating loss for the second quarter of 2023, it was $20 million compared to $24.1 million in the second quarter of 2022. Adjusted operating loss for the second quarter of 2023 was $14.6 million compared to $19.6 million for the second quarter of 2022. I remain very encouraged by our consistent improvement in adjusted operating loss given the heightened focus on capital preservation, particularly in combination with sustained 30% core growth and gross margin expansion. Lastly, Total cash burned for the second quarter of 2023 was $13.3 million, compared to $26.9 million in the prior year quarter, down over 50%. We are quite proud of this achievement and remain committed to sustainable growth moving forward. Cash and cash equivalents were approximately $149 million as of June 30, 2023. Turning to our 2023 outlook. Based on our strong start to fiscal year 2023, we are reiterating all elements of our annual guidance with very slight changes to our underlying assumptions. We continue to expect reported revenue growth for the full year to be at or above 30% in 2023. Constant currency revenue growth, excluding COVID-19-related revenue for 2023, is expected to be between 30% and 35%. in line with our previously highlighted long-term expectations. Of note, we now expect a headwind to 2023 reported revenues of approximately $900,000 related to a ceasing of COVID-19-related contribution, which was minimal in the second quarter. This will equate to a headwind of approximately 16,000 analysis to reported volumes. This headwind is a slight improvement from our prior updates. Furthermore, we would note for the second half, at the moment, exchange rates suggest a modest tailwind to reported revenues and a slight headwind to costs since the Swiss franc and, to a lesser degree, the euro have appreciated noticeably, albeit continued excess volatility could change this. Additionally, following on strong cost performance exhibited in the first half of 2023, Sophia Genetics continues to expect 2023 operating losses to be below 2022 levels. Lastly, with respect to the anticipated revenue cadence for 2023, I would note a slightly increased bias to second half performance than previously communicated. This is due to a delayed start time for a small number of key contracts outside of our control. Originally, this work was slated to commence in late first quarter, but now the majority has already begun in late 2Q. Fortunately, we do not see any impact of full-year performance unless it is purely timing of recognition. With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Yurgi for the closing remarks before we take your questions.
spk01: Yurgi? Thank you, Ross. We're extremely proud of our performance, which we believe reflects our continued ability to execute on our vision and the opportunity ahead. Sophia's success stands on our ability to delight customers and continue driving more and more usage of our platform. I am encouraged and as confident as ever about the long-term path that we are on. We have a fantastic opportunity to drive compelling returns and shareholder value. And speaking of shareholder topics, I would like to update you on the resolutions made at our annual general meeting of shareholders of June 26 at our headquarters in Røde, Switzerland. In addition to approval of the board members who were up for re-election, Laila Tretikoff, a new board member, was appointed. Laila is Deputy Chief Technology Officer at Microsoft, where she previously served as Corporate Vice President in Artificial Intelligence. And before Microsoft, Laila Tretikoff was CEO at Terawatt and Wikipedia. We're excited to have added to our board such a tremendous leader from the artificial intelligence and technology world with robust experience in bringing companies to scale on a global level. In closing, thank you to our SOFIA colleagues, partners, customers, and investors for joining us in our journey. Without you, none of this would be possible. Please note, later this month, we are attending the UBS MedTech Tools and Genomics Summit in California. And in September, we will attend the Morgan Stanley Global Healthcare Conference in New York. I look forward to continuing to update you on Sophia's future success of democratizing data-driven medicine. And with that, operator, you may now open the line for questions.
spk05: Thank you. At this time, I'd like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. And with that, your first question comes from the line of Tejas Savant from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Hi, guys.
spk06: This is Edmond on Fortejas. Thank you for the time. I was hoping to get some more color on spending trends. I was wondering if you guys could speak to the demand you saw in 2Q from the lab and biopharma side, and specifically on the biopharma side. How are you thinking about your push into biopharma in light of recent spending dynamics reported by others in the tool space?
spk01: Yes, thank you, and good morning, Edmond. So, as you know, we've been at ASCO in June, and actually this has been a very fruitful and successful event for us, where we've confirmed that patient stratification, biomarkers become more and more complex and nuanced, right? And for the pharma companies who are developing more and more combined therapies, this demonstrated, if you like, for us and on the basis of the discussions we've been having with many of the top 20 pharma companies, the importance of data diversity and smart algorithms. So while we appreciate that, you know, maybe the world has evolved over the last years, we still see the need from the biopharma customers on getting access to real-time and real-world data. One example is in the context of decentralized trials where there is more and more demand for local NGS testing in oncology. And so despite, you may have read that there are more constraints on the expenses on the pharma, on our side we do see more and more traction. And I think that's definitely the result of all the years we've spent in building the network, the platform, computing complex data, building smart algorithms, and as well attracting centers like MSK, Morense and Kettering, which, as you know, has been sharing with us over 75,000 clinical genomics profiles, of which many are of very important interest. for the pharma in the context of pre-approval efforts on the discovery phase. Aydan, Ross, if you want to add anything else.
spk04: Thanks, Yurgi. You know, you covered sort of where we are in the adoption curve. Obviously, we're a small entity, right, with relatively modest amount of spend at pharma. And so from that standpoint, I'm not sure we're the best read on kind of the macro. But I would say, you know, if I look at our pipeline growth and I look at our activity levels and meetings, and you know our our bookings trends which we obviously don't report i i feel quite good about uh how we're positioned and and and where we are and obviously again we're in a very early stage uh of adoption and there's quite a lot of interest currently on ai and machine learning and how that can be leveraged within all elements uh or all 3ds across the the pharmacon contacts and so obviously it's something we're monitoring We're looking for changes in buying behavior and so forth or interaction. But to date, it's not something we've seen. But obviously, we'll report to you if we see any change in the outlook or the underlying demand environment.
spk06: Got it. That's super helpful. And on that, I was wondering if you guys could provide some color on your OUS market performance in the quarter. Are you guys starting to see any signs of customer spending trends diverging across geographies?
spk01: Yes, Edmond. So as you know, this was one of the important questions when we were in public in 2021, right? So market was expecting that, of course, we deliver a growth, which we have been doing since now, July 2021, going over 30% on constant currency index COVID, for example, this quarter. Another demand was demonstrating that we could work with biopharma beyond the clinical market. And we've been public about it with AstraZeneca deal, as well as with a boundless bio. And then another expectation that you highlight now was to demonstrate that Sophia Genetics platform that supports a decentralized network was compatible as well with the U.S. market. So since the beginning of the year, just to highlight a few names, we've been demonstrating that indeed Sophia DDM could enhance both academic centers and private labs in the U.S. As private labs, we made public the deals we signed with Synergy, with Accutaze, in terms of academic centers, University of Arkansas, and Tulane University. As you know, as well, we've been partnering with MSK, which is, I think, a significant partnership, a significant testimonial of probably the most prominent cancer center that bets on Sophia DDM to create this world of collective intelligence, sharing their data with us. And just to throw you a number, Edmond, Q2 2023 versus Q2 2022 in the U.S. revenue has been growing up by 60%, so well above the average company growth.
spk06: Great, Yogi. Thank you for the time.
spk01: Welcome.
spk05: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan from TD Cowen. The line is open.
spk07: Great, thank you for taking the questions, guys. Congrats on the quarter. Maybe first one. So the guide for the year, 30%, 35% constant currency growth. I think you're close to 30% in the first half. So I guess the question is, is 35% for the full year still a possibility, which would entail a meaningful acceleration in the second half? Should we be thinking midpoint, most applicable? You know, kind of what drives the acceleration?
spk01: Yes, good morning, and thank you for the question, Dan. So as I like it right in today's disclosure by Ross, we had a little delay. We thought some of the former revenue would come a bit earlier. Despite that, as you see, we did 15.1 million in revenue going 30% year on year on a constant currency in ex-COVID. Ivan, Ross, if you want to give some more guidance to Dan on how H2 will be like.
spk04: Thanks, Yurgi. So, yeah, Dan, on a first half basis, if you think about what we did in the first quarter as well, we're kind of in the middle of the range at the moment. I think, you know, certainly, you know, for us, right, we have high visibility of revenue. The one thing we certainly can't always control is kind of new project or new customer starts. And so we did have a couple that we had expected to early in the first quarter, slip into mid to late second quarter. And so those are now going. So I would say on that end, we still feel quite good about our ability to perform this year and deliver on the growth. You know, as I mentioned in the commentary, a bit atypical for us, you will see a stronger second half this year than we saw last year or the year prior in terms of cadence. And to give you a bit of color on that, we do expect it to build in the second half. And 3Q, particularly relative to last year, I think will be notably stronger, as we had a very good 4Q last year as well. And so on that, the revenue that did move out of the second quarter will start to recognize in the third, and then we'll build upon that. So I still feel quite good about our visibility and our ability to deliver on strong numbers for the year.
spk07: Great. Thanks, Ross. Thanks, Sergey. Just on biopharma, I know you guys aren't really calling out the impact yet, given, I guess, its size, but when will we expect to get more visibility? You know, in the prepared remarks, obviously, you guys are excited about the demand trends within that segment, and it would just be interesting to find out, like, any color you could provide about the contribution and or kind of visibility for investors.
spk01: Yes, so indeed, we are very excited because what we build is pretty unique. than getting access to this data in a decentralized way, real time, real world. It's something that is very unique, very appreciated by the pharma companies to work with us on our 3D strategy from discovery to development and deployment. Now, when it comes to highlighting the revenue we do with the biopharma, Ross, what is your say on this one?
spk04: Thanks, Yurgi, and thanks, Dan. So I would say here, obviously, we're very happy with performance of the biopharma group. And, you know, for us, we're building some real momentum within this customer base. Revenue was obviously up materially, but as you said, off of the relatively low base. I think certainly, you know, we're constantly challenging ourselves to understand from a disclosure perspective, when is the best time to break out this segment? We have some thoughts in terms of critical mass, but certainly to the degree that it becomes more material. And obviously when we gave our long-term guidance, we gave you some framework of what that is likely to look like in terms of contribution. When it becomes more material to where, for your purposes, it will help with modeling and understanding of our trend, we'll break it out. So obviously some of that will depend on the size of new business wins and the cycling. And so hopefully we'll have more to update on that in the future. But ultimately, here it's still at a size where we feel comfortable reporting on the total revenue basis versus segment basis.
spk07: Got it. Okay. All right, Ross, Yorgi, thank you very much. Congrats. Thank you, Ben.
spk05: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Rachel Vanstone from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
spk02: Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking the questions, you guys. So first I just wanted to ask on pharma partnerships, I was wondering if you could give us a few more details on your latest expectations around boundless bile and AstraZeneca, and then how should we really think about those partnerships and the contribution heading into 2024?
spk01: Yes, thank you for the question, Rachel, and good morning. So as I like it by Ross, right? So you can expect that, uh, H2 will be, um, stronger, uh, versus other years, uh, because of this type of contract, we had announced the partnership with AstraZeneca now quite some time ago. And, uh, in February, 2023, uh, we had announced in this, that we had signed a new agreement on, uh, on the base of, uh, data that we gather in particular in the context of the diploma for study. With Boundless Bio, the project is, as well, progressing very nice. Just as a reminder, Boundless Bio is a very innovative biotech company that is developing drugs targeting specific types of cancers. About 20% of the cancers are what's called extra-chromosomal DNA, and so this could be a very holistic approach and universal approach to many cancers, so very excited. We're working with them on our side on the preclinical phases, enabling them to demonstrate that we can identify patients that could respond to this type of treatment. And so, as you can expect, revenue will start to be visible as of Q3, Q4, and then accelerate in Q4, in 2024. Ross, do you want to add any more color?
spk04: Thanks, Yurgi, and welcome, Rachel. You know, from our standpoint, as Yurgi mentioned, obviously, we're looking for the pharma business to continue to build in the second half. Obviously, it's a bit early to directly comment on 2024. But I think fundamentally for us, you know, we've taken a very, I would say, measured approach to growing this business. And we have a great leader there who's done a really nice job of helping us penetrate, obviously, the accounts you named as well as others we hope to be able to to talk about with you in the future. And so obviously the goal here is if we're able to deliver differentiated insights, and if we're able to deliver unique capabilities, our ability to scale up at these accounts continues to be very material. And as I've discussed before, obviously the land and expand model will work in pharma as it does, but to a greater dollar size degree than in the clinical market. We look forward to hopefully proving that out for everyone into the following years. But at the moment, we don't have any direct commentary on 24. Great.
spk02: And then I just wanted to ask on gross margins. You guys said 70% adjusted gross margins this quarter. I was just wondering about how should we think about that gross margin trending into the back half of the year? It looks like last year during 4Q, you had some one-timers on that gross margin line. So is there any seasonality that we should be aware of from a gross margin perspective on the pacing between 3Q and 4Q?
spk01: Thank you. Thank you, Rachel. So I will take the opportunity of your question to highlight our strong financial discipline, right, over the last year. As you've seen, our gross margins have been Constantly improving as well as being our cash burn. So, which is another dimension, which I think is very important to highlight the financial discipline growing 30% year on year, uh, not spending more money for TC. And that's something where Sophia genetics has been very, very strong, just as an highlight in Q2, 2023, our cash burn is a $13.3 million versus $26.9 million in 2022. Right. So on the gross margin, particularly, we have been very clear that we were expecting to have tech-like gross margins. And I think this is what we've been demonstrating over the last quarter. I don't know if, Ross, you want to give some more color beyond the Q2 and what could be expected in Q3 and Q4. Sure.
spk04: So on the gross margin side, obviously, this is the first quarter we've had in the last several that doesn't involve any sort of net benefits. So we're now sort of that, I would say, a clean number that we should be able to hopefully improve off of dependent on mix. I think, you know, as you look at the back half of the year, our goal is to sustain 70 plus. You know, it wasn't that long ago that we set 70 as sort of the bar of where we wanted to get to on a multi-year basis. So to get here this quickly, we're obviously very pleased with that outcome. And, you know, I think We're certainly working hard on the hosting and compute cost side with our partner, Microsoft. We're working on labor absorption. Mix tends to have some influence here. And so given what we've said about pharma in the second half, that should be a bit of a tailwind. But ultimately, here, I think we're pretty happy with our performance. And we're also choosing at times to reinvest back in our customers when it makes sense, if there's an opportunity to grow them materially. So we're going to be continually measured, but certainly happy with where we are and expect to deliver continued 70-plus percent in the back half.
spk02: Great. That's it for me. Thank you, you guys.
spk01: Thank you, Rachel. Have a good day.
spk05: Thank you. And before we proceed, I'd like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Now, the next question comes from the line of Mark Massaro from BTIG. Your line is open.
spk08: Hey, guys. This is Vivian on for Mark. Thanks for taking the question. So it looks like your revenue per analysis picked up this quarter. Could you just discuss what's driving that or any initiatives to improve further on this front? I think at your analyst day, you discussed land and expand driving more applications per customer over time. So just any comments you have on increased utilization. Thanks.
spk01: Thank you, Vivian, and good morning. So indeed our strategy in the clinical market in particular as being a land and expand, right? Which is very, very typical for a cloud-native company. So we tend to land the customer on a specific application. So let's say on solitude more testing. And then as the customer starts using the platform and experience good returns, we see those volumes grow. And then what happens most of the time is that then the same customer will start adding a new menu in its lab, so let's say moving beyond solid tumor testing with IM-ONC testing or HRD testing or liquid biopsy testing, all in our platform, which is what is driving as well the growth of our customers year on year. In the past, we've been using the net dollar retention to give a sense of what is the growth like, and for this quarter, it has been again above 100%, which is really good. We were actually at 114%. And if I'm not mistaken, this is very consistent with the previous quarter. So you should expect our model to continue to grow in such a way. And that's why it's very important as well to land new customers because those customers that you land today are customers that are going to grow tomorrow. And while we are very happy with the 27% year-on-year growth, which was well distributed across regions, In terms of volume, we're very happy as well with the signing of 60 new logos, which enable us now to grow with these logos and be able, as we compute more patient data, to impact on more patients, but as well, generate more revenue. Ross, in terms of numbers, do you want to go further?
spk04: Thanks, Sergi. So, I would say, obviously, Mix has been favorable for us. Additionally, Currency, finally, is starting to no longer be a headwind, right? So that's helping as well and had been a drag. Additionally, as we burn off the COVID analysis, obviously those come at a much lower ASP, so it's going to help on the overall ASP performance. But I think, you know, holistically, you know, we're quite pleased with the application subsegments that had strong performance in the quarter. We continue to have very good price capture overall. And we look for this component of growth to continue to benefit us. But again, in any given quarter in a consumption model, you may see some changes in volume versus mix in price. But ultimately, it's all trending for us in the right direction.
spk08: Okay, perfect. Thanks, Ross. And just to follow up, could you share any color on the high growth areas or applications like HRD and liquid biopsy? I think you mentioned last quarter that these were growing in the triple digits. And maybe you could also refresh us on what applications are driving the bulk of volumes today. And that's it for me. Thanks.
spk01: Yes. Thank you, Vivian. So indeed, we're super happy with the traction we're having with HRD that we launched about a year and a half ago now. We are still growing triple digits. We have announced a number of customers that have been adopting our platform for HRD testing this quarter, including Peter Mack in Australia, but as well in other cases, a private reference lab in the UK and London called Synovi's. So we're very, very pleased with HRD testing. Today, HRD testing is being required for ovarian cancer, but as you may know, for other type of cancers like prostate cancer or breast cancer, there is something similar that needs to be performed called HRR, so homologous recombination repair deficiency. And so in that front, we are very happy with the growth we're seeing. Another one to call is liquid biopsy, which is newer to us. but where we are growing as well triple digit and where we expect eventually growth to accelerate sometime next year. As you remember, we have signed this agreement with Memorandum and Catherine, which not only gave us their data that we can leverage on the platform, so 75,000 clinical genomics cases, but as well two testing assets that are being highly published called MSK Access for liquid biopsy and MSK Impact for solid tumor testing. And so the liquid biopsy trend and growth should continue to be significant for SOFIA as we launch the MSK access solution in the market to decentralize and support many other customers as of H1, so end of first half of next year. On another note, we see strong growth in solid tumor, and in particular in comprehensive genomic profiling, where, as you may remember, we have signed an agreement as well with Agilent on their short-selected GP. And on that one, as we work together, we start to see as well good traction and good momentum in the market. And last, maybe the one I would highlight is on the rare and inherited disorders. we see a trend of more and more panels being basically grouped in terms of larger gene panels, which are exome-based now, and we've been growing as well year-on-year at 66%. Beyond that, we see demand on pharmacogenomics, a move towards possibly wall genome sequencing, and as well, we start seeing some demand on MRD. where we plan as well to launch some applications at least for amyloid sometime next year awesome thanks for giving the question thank you vivian thank you there are no further questions at this time i'd like to turn the call over to the presenters thank you thank you all today for attending our q2 earnings We are very proud of what has been the achievement of our Sophians in this quarter, growing significantly, being extremely disciplined financially, and being able as well to build technologies that will be launched early next year. With that, I encourage you following us, and in particular joining us soon for the next two investor conferences, the UBS MedTech and Genomic Conference in August and the Morgan Stanley Conference in New York in September. With that, thank you very much and have a good day.
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