Silver Spike Investment Corp.

Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call

5/10/2024

spk00: Order 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Umesh Mahajan, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
spk07: Good morning. This is Umesh Mahajan, CFO of Silver Spike Investment Corp. With me here today is Scott Gordon, CEO of Silver Spike Investment Corp. Welcome to Silver Spike's earnings conference call and live webcast for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024. Silver Spike's financial results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024 were released yesterday and can be accessed from our website at SSIC.SilverSpikeCap.com. A replay of the call will also be available on our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements that are not based on historical facts made during this call, including any statements related to financial guidance, may be deemed forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. Because these forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, there are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. We encourage you to refer to our most recent SEC filings for information on some of these risk factors. Silver Spike assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward-looking statements. Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 10, 2024. Therefore, we are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay or transcript reading. So good morning again and thank you all for joining. We released our results yesterday along with our 10Q and there is a management presentation deck attached to the 8K that was filed and made available this morning. Those who have joined us on this earnings webcast should also see a link to the slides that we will use for our discussion today. We may refer to the slides by numbers for your reference. I'll cover the presentation slides and then turn it over to Scott Gordon for his thoughts and remarks. Before we get to the financial highlights for the quarter ended March 31, 2024, a quick recap about the loan portfolio acquisition that we announced in this quarter. On February 20, 2024, the company announced it that it entered into a definitive agreement to purchase from Chicago Atlantic Loan Portfolio LLC a portfolio of loans in exchange for newly issued shares of the company's common stock, subject to certain customary closing conditions. On April 15, 2024, the company filed a registration statement on Form N-14 in connection with this loan portfolio acquisition With the Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, we are currently anticipating this transaction to close in mid-2024. With that, turning to page three of the presentation for financial highlights for the first quarter of 2024. The gross investment income for this quarter was $2.8 million. compared to $2.5 million in the first quarter last year. Expenses of approximately $0.8 million, excluding the expenses related specifically to the loan portfolio acquisition. Results in investment income, excluding transaction expenses of $2 million compared to $1.4 million last year. We have incurred transaction-related expenses of $2.1 million in the quarter as the definitive agreements were signed in this quarter. Net investment income of negative $0.1 million. Net assets of $84.5 million, down from last year due to the payment of dividends and the transaction expenses. On a per share basis, the investment income, excluding the transaction expenses, was $0.33 per share compared to $0.22 per share last year. The net investment income was negative $0.01 per share, and net asset value at the end of the period, as of March 31, 2024, was $13.60. Also, the Board declared a regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.25 per share. This dividend will be payable on June 28 to stockholders of record on June 20. We will not really go through the subsequent few slides in the slide deck in detail as we have covered them in the past and most investors are already familiar with our story. Turning to page 9 to talk about our origination efforts, our deal pipeline remains strong. In general, since last quarter of 2023, many of the potential borrowers in the industry have not rushed into borrowing money as they were watching the interest rate movements in the credit markets, as well as the developments on the rescheduling of cannabis to Schedule III. We've used that time period towards due diligence and underwriting of over 25 borrowers as a part of our loan portfolio acquisition that we announced. And at this point, as the industry continues to grow, good operators in the industry have started revisiting their growth and expansion plans and have started thinking about raising more capital to support their plans. We have an active dialogue with many of the best operators in the industry and have an active pipeline of over 425 million. On page 11, we show our portfolio summary as of March 31. There were no new investments in this quarter. As you can see at the top of the page, we have over 54 million, almost 55 million invested with an average yield to maturity of about 18%. A few points we'd like to reiterate about this portfolio. First, all of our positions are for sling loans or secured bonds. None of these loans or bonds are in on a cool status. Over 90% of our invested portfolio is in floating rate loans, and our gross portfolio yield of 18% compares favorably to the broader listed BDC universe. With that, let me pass it on to Scott Gordon for a few remarks.
spk08: Thanks so much. Just wanted to take a minute and talk about the big industry news of late, which has been the apparent approval by the DEA of the HHS's recommendation to reschedule cannabis. This has been a widely anticipated move since the HHS announcement last year. The process timeline, however, is uncertain and could take up to several years to complete if met with challenges seeking judicial review and or administrative hearings. The change, however, would have a major impact on company cash flows through the elimination of the 280E tax effect. While we view the news as positive, like all legislative initiatives in the cannabis realm, the devil remains in the detail around both timing and implementation. Given the myriad of ambiguities with respect to that, we believe that the current dynamic of capital constraints in the industry will be largely unchanged. Nor do we extrapolate anything further on the regulatory front because of the rescheduling process. Safer Act and other pending pieces of reform will muddle as usual and continue to be subject to all of the same vagaries and obstacles that have been present for some time. As such, we take a mildly optimistic view of the news and maintain some hope that perhaps this time is different. On balance, it's clearly a step in the right direction. With that, I'll pass it back to Amesh.
spk07: Thank you, Scott. That's all we had in terms of prepared remarks. We can take questions if there are any. Gigi?
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler.
spk09: Thank you. Good morning. Good morning, Michael.
spk02: Regarding the transaction, can you just touch on how it's progressing and maybe if there's any regulatory review updates or just your sense of what we should expect as far as that moves along?
spk07: Yeah, sure. So we have submitted a N-14 statement to the SEC for the review on April 15th. That N-14 is a document that would be used as a proxy as well as providing information on the transaction. We are expecting that process to take another month or two. It is difficult to estimate the exact time it will take for the completion of the review. But following that review, we will be taking the shareholder vote. So everything is, in terms of the ongoing process for approval, everything is going as we had anticipated. We think we should get comments from SEC on the document in short order so people know exactly when. And we still think that we should be expecting a close on this transaction sometime this summer.
spk02: Okay, great. That's helpful. And just as far as rescheduling has been, you know, sort of in the spotlight in the industry in recent days. Can you give a sense of what the implications would be expected to be for you guys in particular and just how the ramifications of that might look for you?
spk07: Yeah, I mean, as Scott mentioned, in his remarks, there is clearly the implication of the 280E on the cannabis operators and it's an extremely positive one. So the first impact really from our perspective is that our portfolio companies, both the companies that we have in our portfolio right now as well as the companies that are, or the borrowers that are in the anticipated portfolio acquisition, are going to have much better cash flows and the credit metrics are going to look different. So that's a positive. In terms of overall dynamic, the competitive dynamic for the lending industry which we operate in, we do not think that just the announcement and even the ultimate passing of 280E is really going to change the dynamic from a supply and demand for capital for the cannabis operators. We do not expect the floodgates for capital to open up with this announcement or even with the passing of 280E. And as a result, at least over the next couple of years, we do not anticipate a significant change in either the yields or the overall competitive dynamics And we do think that the news has led most of the cannabis operators to rethink their growth plans. The industry continues to grow pretty rapidly and the operators, the good operators are definitely rethinking, revisiting their plans and they're going to need the capital and we will be there to support them. So from our perspective, we think it's a positive for our credit metrics of our borrower companies. We think the dynamics, the competitive dynamics doesn't change for us in the near term or definitely over the next year or two. And it's positive in the sense that the operators are getting better and are going to start talking about their growth plans in much more earnest. Okay, great. Thank you so much.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes in the line of Pablo Zuanek from Zuanek and Associates. Hey, Pablo. Good morning.
spk06: Good morning. Thank you. Look, two quick questions. One, a follow-up to the prior question. You know, of course, the 280E news and rescheduling is all positive, right? But does that mean that a lot of operators maybe go on a wait-and-hold pattern for now and don't engage until there's more clarity on when that's implemented and on the 280E benefits? I realize that in some states, right, they may go reg, so they may need to expand, although some of them may already have capacity there. So I'm just wondering whether we have a period, maybe almost one year, where the demand side, you know, it's weakened temporarily. I don't know if you want to comment on that. And then the second, well, let's start with that first. Thanks.
spk08: Yeah, I'll take that, Pablo. Look, I think we've already seen that dynamic, you know, since the announcement, the initial announcement by HHS of the recommendation to switch to reschedule to Schedule 3. And so, you know, this has definitely been the backdrop of the market, you know, since that announcement, whatever it was, four or five months ago. And look, I think there's obviously some degree of hope and an expectation among the operators and our borrowers that, you know, this news will sort of drive down borrowing costs and, you know, kind of open the floodgate of capital into the market. You know, as Umesh just alluded to, we just don't see that. I think there are many impediments of the capital constraints in the marketplace. And, you know, 280E wasn't really sort of among the major factors. The federal illegality and just the nature of the complexity of the industry, I think, are the barriers of keeping capital from coming in, and that's unchanged. So I think, yeah, you're right that there might be some level of companies out there that might opt to take a more sort of patient wait-and-see approach. with the belief that better terms are sort of coming if they do that. But I also think a lot of the companies that we speak to sort of accept the sober reality of what has been the history of disappointment on many of the legislative things that have happened in the industry. And I think if capital is available to them, they'll take it. A mixed bag, but yeah, I could see on the margin where this might take another sort of three to six months of needing to play out for some folks who might want to stay on the sidelines. But we think ultimately you can't wait forever. And many of the operators have already been waiting for a fairly long time. So, you know, those that have real kind of expansion plans and need that growth capital, I think, you know, don't have a choice.
spk06: Understood. And then just on a separate subject, in terms of the transaction structure, maybe just to clarify, obviously Chicago Atlantic, it's a group, right? And your transaction is a group, the holding company. It has nothing to do with a REIT that's a public listed vehicle. but I'm just trying to understand in terms of what's public information, this idea that that becomes a bit of a sister company for you, that you work together, you coordinate, and I'm referring to the REIT, or that's just a totally separate organization and your transaction is really with the holding company?
spk07: The two are completely separate, Pablo. You're right. They're completely separate, and, yeah, they're separate. The REIT is a completely independent entity from the PDC. All right.
spk06: Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Umesh Mahajan for closing remarks.
spk07: Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us for this call. We look forward to keep giving you updates on the transaction and look forward to speaking with you again in the next call. Thank you very much.
spk00: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Silver Spike Investment Corporation first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Umesh Mahajan, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
spk07: Good morning. This is Umesh Mahajan, CFO of Silver Spike Investment Corp. With me here today is Scott Gordon, CEO of Silver Spike Investment Corp. Welcome to Silver Spike's earnings conference call and live webcast for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024. Silver Spike's financial results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024 were released yesterday and can be accessed from our website at SSIC.SilverSpikeCap.com. A replay of the call will also be available on our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements that are not based on historical facts made during this call, including any statements related to financial guidance, may be deemed forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. Because these forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, there are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. We encourage you to refer to our most recent SEC filings for information on some of these risk factors. Silver Spike assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward-looking statements. Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 10, 2024. Therefore, your advice that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay or transcript reading. So good morning again and thank you all for joining. We released our results yesterday along with our 10Q and there is a management presentation deck attached to the 8K that was filed and made available this morning. Those who have joined us on this earnings webcast should also see a link to the slides that we will use for our discussion today. We may refer to the slides by numbers for your reference. I'll cover the presentation slides and then turn it over to Scott Gordon for his thoughts and remarks. Before we get to the financial highlights for the quarter ended March 31, 2024, a quick recap about the loan portfolio acquisition that we announced in this quarter. On February 20, 2024, the company announced that it entered into a definitive agreement to purchase from Chicago Atlantic Loan Portfolio LLC, a portfolio of loans in exchange for newly issued shares of the company's common stock, subject to certain customary closing conditions. On April 15, 2024, the company filed a registration statement on form N-14 in connection with this loan portfolio acquisition with the Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, We are currently anticipating this transaction to close in mid-2024. With that, turning to page three of the presentation for financial highlights for the first quarter of 2024. The gross investment income for this quarter was $2.8 million compared to $2.5 million in the first quarter last year. Expenses of approximately 0.8 million, excluding the expenses related specifically to the loan portfolio acquisition. Results in investment income, excluding transaction expenses of 2 million, compared to 1.4 million last year. We have incurred transaction-related expenses of 2.1 million in the quarter as the definitive agreements were signed in this quarter. Net investment income of negative 0.1 million, net assets of 84.5 million, down from last year due to the payment of dividends and the transaction expenses. On a per share basis, the investment income excluding the transaction expenses was 33 cents per share compared to 22 cents per share last year. The net investment income was negative 1 cent per share and net asset value at the end of the period, as of March 31, 2024, was $13.60. Also, the Board declared a regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.25 per share. This dividend will be payable on June 28 to stockholders of record on June 20. We will not really go through the subsequent few slides in the slide deck in detail as we have covered them in the past and most investors are already familiar with our story. But turning to page nine to talk about our origination efforts. Our deal pipeline remains strong. In general, since last quarter of 2023, many of the potential borrowers in the industry have not rushed into borrowing money as they were watching the interest rate movements in the credit markets, as well as the developments on the rescheduling of cannabis to Schedule III. We've used that time period towards due diligence and underwriting of over 25 borrowers as a part of our loan portfolio acquisition that we announced. And at this point, as the industry continues to grow, good operators in the industry have started revisiting their growth and expansion plans, and have started thinking about raising more capital to support their plans. We have an active dialogue with many of the best operators in the industry and have an active pipeline of over 425 million. On page 11, we show our portfolio summary as of March 31. There were no new investments in this quarter. As you can see at the top of the page, We have over 54 million, almost 55 million invested with an average yield to maturity of about 18%. A few points we'd like to reiterate about this portfolio. First, all of our positions are forced lien loans or secured bonds. None of these loans or bonds are in on a cool status. Over 90% of our invested portfolio is in floating rate loans, and our gross portfolio yield of 18 percent compares favorably to the broader listed BDC universe. With that, let me pass it on to Scott Gordon for a few remarks.
spk08: Scott Gordon Thanks so much. Just wanted to take a minute and talk about the big industry news of late, which has been the apparent approval by the DEA of the HHS's recommendation to reschedule cannabis. This has been a widely anticipated move since the HHS announcement last year. The process timeline, however, is uncertain and could take up to several years to complete if met with challenges seeking judicial review and or administrative hearings. The change, however, would have a major impact on company cash flows through the elimination of the 280E tax effect. While we view the news as positive, like all legislative initiatives in the cannabis realm, The devil remains in the detail around both timing and implementation. Given the myriad of ambiguities with respect to that, we believe that the current dynamic of capital constraints in the industry will be largely unchanged. Nor do we extrapolate anything further on the regulatory front because of the rescheduling process. Safer Act and other pending pieces of reform will muddle as usual and continue to be subject to all of the same vagaries and obstacles that have been present for some time. As such, we take a mildly optimistic view of the news and maintain some hope that perhaps this time is different. On balance, it's clearly a step in the right direction. With that, I'll pass back to Amash.
spk07: Thank you, Scott. That's all we had in terms of prepared remarks. We can take questions.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler.
spk09: Thank you, good morning. Good morning, Michael.
spk02: Regarding the transaction, can you just touch on how it's progressing and maybe if there's any, you know, regulatory review, you know, updates or just your sense of what we should expect as far as that moves along.
spk07: Yeah, sure. So we have submitted a N-14 statement to the SEC for the review on April 15th. that N14 is a document that would be used as a proxy as well as providing information on the transaction. We are expecting that process to take another month or two. It is difficult to estimate the exact time it will take for the completion of the review. But following that review, we will be taking the shareholder role. So everything is, in terms of the ongoing process for approval, everything is going as we had anticipated. We think we should get comments from SEC on the document in short order so people know exactly when. And we still think that we should be we should be expecting a close on this transaction sometime this summer.
spk02: Okay, great. That's helpful. And just as far as rescheduling has been sort of in the spotlight in the industry in recent days, can you give a sense of what the implications would be expected to be for you guys in particular and just how the ramifications of that might look for you.
spk07: Yeah, I mean, as Scott mentioned in his remarks, there is clearly the implication of the 280E on the cannabis operators, and it's an extremely positive one. So the first impact really from our perspective is that our portfolio companies both the companies that we have in our portfolio right now as well as the companies that are or the borrowers that are in the anticipated acquisition are going to have much better cash flows and the credit metrics are going to look different so that's a positive in terms of overall dynamic, the competitive dynamic for the lending industry which we operate in. We do not think that just the announcement and even the ultimate passing of 280E is really going to change the dynamic from a supply and demand for capital for the cannabis operators. We do not expect the floodgates for capital to open up with this announcement or even with the passing of 280E. And as a result, at least over the next couple of years, we do not anticipate a significant change in either the yields or the overall competitive dynamic. And we do think that the news has led most of the cannabis operators to rethink their growth plans. The industry continues to grow pretty rapidly and the operators, the good operators are definitely rethinking, revisiting their plans and they're going to need the capital and we will be there to support them. So from our perspective, we think it's a positive for our credit metrics of our borrower companies. We think the dynamics, the competitive dynamics doesn't change for us in the in the near term or definitely over the next year or two. And it's positive in the sense that the operators are getting better and are going to start talking about their growth plans in much more earnest. Okay, great. Thank you so much.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Pablo Zuanek from Zuanek and Associates. Hey, Pablo. Good morning.
spk06: Good morning. Thank you. Look, two quick questions. One, a follow-up to the prior question. You know, of course, the 280E news and rescheduling is all positive, right? But does that mean that a lot of operators maybe go on a wait-and-hold pattern for now and don't engage until there's more clarity on when that's implemented and on the 280E benefits? I realize that in some states, right, they may go reg, so they may need to expand, although some of them may already have capacity there. So I'm just wondering whether we have a period, maybe almost one year, where the demand side, you know, it's weakened temporarily. I don't know if you want to comment on that. And then the second, well, let's start with that first. Thanks.
spk08: Yeah, I'll take that, Pablo. Look, I think we've already seen that dynamic, you know, since the announcement, the initial announcement by HHS of the recommendation to switch to reschedule to Schedule 3. And so, you know, this has definitely been the backdrop of the market, you know, since that announcement, whatever it was, four or five months ago. And look, I think there's obviously some degree of hope and an expectation among the operators and our borrowers that this news will sort of drive down borrowing costs and kind of open the floodgate of capital into the market. As Umesh just alluded to, we just don't see that. I think there are many impediments. of the capital constraints in the marketplace. And, you know, 280E wasn't really sort of among the major factors. The federal illegality and just the nature of the complexity of the industry, I think, are the barriers of keeping capital from coming in, and that's unchanged. So I think, yeah, you're right, that, you know, there might be some, you know... some level of companies out there that, you know, might opt to take a more sort of patient wait and see approach with the belief that, you know, better terms are sort of coming if they do that. But I also think, you know, a lot of the companies that we speak to sort of accept the sober reality of what has been, you know, the history of disappointment on many of the legislative things that have happened in the industry. And I think if capital is available to them, they'll take it. So a mixed bag. But yeah, I could see on the margin where, you know, this might take another sort of three to six months of needing to play out for, you know, some folks who might want to stay on the sidelines. But, you know, we think ultimately, you can't wait forever. And, you know, And many of the operators have already been waiting for a fairly long time. So, you know, those that have real kind of expansion plans and need that growth capital, I think, you know, don't have a choice.
spk06: Understood. And then just on a separate subject, in terms of the transaction structure, maybe just to clarify, obviously, Chicago Atlantic, it's a group, right? And your transaction is a group, the holding company. It has nothing to do with a REIT that's a publicly listed vehicle, right? but I'm just trying to understand in terms of what's public information, this idea that that becomes a bit of a sister company for you, that you work together, you coordinate, and I'm referring to the REIT, or that's just a totally separate organization and your transaction is really with the holding company?
spk07: The two are completely separate, Pablo. You're right, they're completely separate, and yeah, they're separate. The REIT is a completely independent entity from the BDC. All right.
spk06: Okay, that's all I have. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Umesh Mahajan for closing remarks.
spk07: Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us for this call. We look forward to keep giving you updates on the transaction and look forward to speaking with you again in the next call. Thank you very much.
spk00: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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