TaskUs, Inc.

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

2/27/2023

spk08: Good morning and welcome to the Task Us Investor Call. My name is Paul and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, all lines will be placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce Alan Katz, Vice President of Investor Relations. Alan, you may begin.
spk05: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for the Task Us fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Bryce Maddock, co-founder and chief executive officer of Task Us, and Balaji Sekhar, our chief financial officer. Full details of our results and additional management commentary are available in our earnings release, which can be found on the investor relations section of our website at ir.taskus.com. Please note that this call will be simultaneously webcast on the investor relations section of the company's corporate website. Before we start, I would like to remind you that the following discussion contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including, but not limited to, statements regarding our future financial results and management's expectations and plans for the business. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees and involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed here. You should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ from those forward-looking statements can be found in our annual report on Form 10-K, which was filed with the SEC on March 9, 2022. This filing is accessible on the SEC's website and on our website at ir.tasks.com and may be supplemented with subsequent periodic reports you file with the SEC. We expect our 2022 10-K to be filed with the SEC in the coming week. Any forward-looking statements made on today's conference call, including responses to questions, are based on current expectations as of today and TASCUS assumes no obligation to update or revise them, whether as a result of new developments or otherwise, except as required by law. The following discussion contains non-GAAP financial measures. For reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures, the most directly comparable GAAP metric, please see our earnings press release, which is available in the IR section of our website. Now, I will turn the call over to Bryce Maddock, co-founder and chief executive officer of TASCUS. Bryce?
spk12: Thank you, Alan. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We had a strong end to 2022 with both revenue and adjusted EBITDA coming in above our guidance ranges. I am so proud of our global team that worked tirelessly throughout this year to advance our strategic goals. We completed our first acquisition of HALU, which expanded our European delivery footprint and finished the year ahead of planned. We expanded our operations into new geographies, such as Malaysia and Japan, and launched new service offerings, such as the financial crimes work led by our risk and response team and training and development solutions led by our learning experience organization. We also officially launched our Taskverse platform, delivering scaled AI annotation and e-commerce data projects to both existing and new Taskus clients. We signed contracts with three of the largest global tech companies in the world and added and expanded our business with large enterprise clients. Lastly, we continue to maintain what we believe is the strongest corporate culture in the industry and have brought 42% of our teammates back to the office as of the end of the year. Overall, sales activity remains strong throughout the year as we continue to strengthen and diversify our revenue base. we ended 2022 with 86 clients billing $1 million or more on an annual basis and 21 clients billing $10 million or more annually, up from 72 and 16 the year prior. We also made significant progress on our efficiency and cost efforts. As a result, we increased our adjusted EBITDA margins in Q4 and ended the year well above both our most recent guidance range and our initial outlook that we provided at the start of the year. These are just a few of the incredible accomplishments of our team in a very challenging environment. In 2022, our clients shifted their focus from growth to efficiency amidst increasing economic uncertainty. This has increased demand for our efficient offshore delivery and automation solutions from both new and existing clients. As we discussed on the last call, over the next few quarters, we expect to continue to see a volatile macro environment as well as a challenging set of comps from the first half of 2022. However, I remain confident in our ability to drive profitable organic revenue growth in 2023 and exit the year in an even stronger position. I'm going to move on to a quick recap of the fourth quarter and full year results, Then I'll discuss the impact that we expect from the current macro environment and what that means for our 2023 outlook. And lastly, I'll discuss our strategy to improve profitability and drive growth in the back half of this year into 2024 and beyond. Let's start with financials. Q4 was another strong quarter of both top line and bottom line growth. Revenue grew by 6.8% year-on-year to $242.2 million above the top end of our guidance range of $233 million. Adjusted EBITDA grew by 3.2% year-on-year to $57.9 million for an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23.9%, also above our guidance of 23.2%. For the full year 2022, we achieved $960.5 million in revenue and $223.2 million in adjusted EBITDA for an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23.2%, again, above the top end of our guidance ranges. We ended the year with top line growth of over 26% while maintaining margins that we believe to be among the highest in the industry. Moving on to signings and growth with our current clients, in Q4 revenue from our top 20 clients increased 1% year over year. This growth rate continued to be materially impacted by the transition of work offshore at our largest client and the declines in volume at our largest crypto and equity trading clients. If we exclude the impact from those three clients, our largest 17 clients grew over 27% year over year. And revenue from clients outside the top 20 grew at approximately 25% year on year. We expect to see our clients outside of our top 20 grow at a faster rate than our largest clients in 2023 as we improve the diversity and resilience of our client base. Looking at our service offerings, digital customer experience revenue grew by 7.3% compared with Q4 of 2021, as a result of expansion with existing clients and new client signings. We're seeing strong signing activity from existing clients in the health tech, high tech, travel and on-demand transportation spaces, as well as with non-crypto fintech clients. This service offering returned to sequential quarterly revenue growth this quarter, as the lower volumes from clients in the crypto and equity trading spaces were more than offset by clients looking to leverage our global footprint to drive efficiency. As I discussed last quarter, our large clients have continued to turn to us to absorb volumes after announcing internal staff reductions. In terms of our crypto and equity trading clients, as expected, they represented 4% of our Q4 revenue, or $10.5 million. While we continue to be the preferred partner of the largest players in this space, we expect revenues from these clients to continue to decline throughout 2023. Moving on to some of the signings for the quarter. In Q4, we signed a digital CX contract with a leading provider of global money transfers and multi-currency management. We will be supporting email, chat, text, and calls for this client's multinational operations, and are driving a digital transformation process, enabling cost savings and efficiency gains. We'll be servicing their end users in Europe, North America, and Latin America. In Q4, we also started a DCX engagement with a healthcare data and analytics provider. This company turned to Taskus to provide data validation for health plan participation and appointment information. Poor data poses a significant risk to the healthcare industry's ability to close gaps in care and drive better patient outcomes. By solving this problem, we are protecting patients and providers while improving our clients' operating efficiency. We also expanded our DCX relationship with a telehealth provider in the quarter, supporting a large expansion of their business. Both of these clients are being served out of our U.S. operations. We've seen strong demand for our U.S. delivery among healthcare customers due to the regulatory requirements and the highly sensitive nature of their work. This type of work is a great example of U.S.-based services that we believe will remain onshore regardless of the economic environment. We see the U.S. as a key geography for delivering highly specialized services, particularly to healthcare clients. Moving on to trust and safety, which we previously called content security, revenues in this service offering declined 5.1% compared with Q4 of 2021, driven by the impact of our largest client moving work to our locations in the Philippines and India. If we excluded the impact from our largest client, this quarter's trust and safety revenues would have grown by 8% compared with Q4 of 2021. At our largest client, we continued to see volume increases and take share from our competitors in Q4. The number of teammates supporting this client increased by 29% from the start of 2022 to the end of the year. With scaled offshore operations in both the Philippines and India, we're well positioned to continue to grow volumes at our largest client in 2023. As I discussed on the Q3 call, we continue to transition roles from the U.S. to offshore geographies. This transition will now be complete at the end of Q1, at which time, effectively, all of our U.S.-based revenue with this client will have shifted offshore. Looking at our other client findings in the trust and safety offering, we expanded our relationship with one of the country's largest dating apps, to provide both content moderation support as well as DCX services. This client has grown from a small pilot in 2021, and today we support them across 10 business lines, leveraging both in-office teammates and task-based gig workers. Our expertise in automation and process engineering has led to multiple expansion opportunities, which we believe will continue in the current environment. We also expanded our trust and safety work with a social engagement platform that maintains online communities for large digital publishers. This platform enables publishers to bring conversations back from social networks to the publisher's own site. As such, it is vital to ensure that all of the user-generated content follows the publisher's moderation policies. We've helped this client to craft their product and policies to protect these diverse virtual communities. Recognizing our expertise, this quarter our client transitioned content moderation for one of the world's largest publications to task us. They've turned to us for our expertise on trust and safety research, proactive and reactive classification, flagging of disinformation trends, and policy enforcement. AI services revenues grew 20.1% in Q4 compared with Q4 of 2021, driven primarily by expansions with existing clients in the autonomous vehicle, social media, and travel and transportation spaces. Last quarter, I highlighted an exciting new engagement with the leading provider of generative AI technology. Their user base has grown exponentially since our last call. and we've supported this growth and expanded the scope of services that we provide to them. They continue to leverage our AI services to train and develop their algorithm. In Q4, we began to provide content moderation services to ensure their technology responds to user questions in accordance with policy guidelines. We're doing the complex, sensitive, in-center work that requires the clinician-led wellness support that Taskus pioneered for this industry. This serves as another great example of Taskus discovering new industries and developing the specialized services those industries need to scale. We also expanded the scope of our crowdsource data collection and data annotation business using the Taskverse, our global gig worker platform, which we brought to market at the start of 2022. We now have approximately 115,000 Taskers signed up for gig work in approximately 80 countries covering over 90 languages. In its first year, the Taskverse supported some of the largest technology companies in the world. For one of our e-commerce clients, our Tasker community performed more than 1.2 million annotations over the period of just a few weeks. For one of our big tech clients, we collected and annotated tens of thousands of videos from taskers, supporting the development of our client's most advanced and inclusive machine learning-based products. While this is a small service offering from a revenue perspective, we expect growth of revenues from the taskers to significantly outpace every other part of our business for the next few years. Looking at our overall signings activities, Our engagements this quarter were again driven largely by growth from existing clients, which accounted for over 75% of the total new business signings in Q4. We ended the year with an annual net revenue retention rate of 114%, and our current pipeline is the largest it has ever been, including opportunities for expansion with existing clients, new client engagements, and large transformational deals. Turning to revenue growth within our industry verticals, we're seeing particular strength from clients in the retail and e-commerce space, the high-tech space, which we will begin to call just technology, and with on-demand travel and transportation clients. Each of these verticals grew by approximately 40% this quarter compared with Q4 of 2021. We also saw approximately 30% growth from clients in the entertainment and gaming space this quarter, In Q4, we delivered excellent results for three of the world's largest technology firms that we began working with earlier in the year. We now have plans to expand all three relationships in 2023. We see the potential for even more significant growth across these clients, but view this as upside to the 2023 outlook that we're providing today. I'll spend a few minutes discussing our teammates and the environment for talent before I move on to our outlook for 2023. In Q4, we added 800 net new teammates to task us, bringing our global headcount to 49,500. We continue to see year-over-year increases in the size of our teammate populations in every country except Ireland and the United States. In the back half of 2022, we saw a significant improvement in employee retention And in Q4, we had the best employee retention numbers of the entire year. Overall, 2022 employee attrition was higher than in 2020 and 2021, but lower than in 2019, which is the last full year where we had all of our teammates in the office. Taskus teammates rated us 4.6 stars on Glassdoor as of the end of the quarter. Now let's move on to our outlook for 2023. In our press release issued this afternoon, we indicated revenue of $965 million at the midpoint of our guidance range, an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23%, and free cash flow generation of at least $100 million, excluding the earn-out payment associated with the HALU acquisition that we completed in the second quarter of 2022. Like our clients, we are laser focused on improving the efficiency of our business. This year, our goal is to improve both our adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow year over year, regardless of what happens in the macroeconomic environment. Bology will provide more details on what will drive these results later in the call. Let me spend a few minutes on our guidance and how the current macroeconomic environment plays into our outlook. We worked closely with each of our clients as part of their 2023 budgeting processes. On the Q3 call, I noted two trends across our client base that emerged from these conversations. First, clients are looking to reduce costs by leveraging our global delivery model, shifting expensive in-house resources to our efficient offshore teams. We continue to see this as a large driver of signings in the past quarter. We're doing more complex work and taking on more sensitive and critical processes. At the same time, a number of our clients continue to reduce the size of our teams supporting them from the U.S. To size this impact, in Q1 of 2022, 33% of our revenues came from U.S. delivery. By Q4 of 2022, this number had dropped to 21% of total revenues. The midpoint of the guidance provided today contemplates the scenario in which the number drops to just 15% of total revenues for the back half of this year. The U.S. is a key geography for us and will always play a vital role in our global delivery model. A majority of the work that remains in the U.S. must stay in the U.S. for regulatory reasons, process compliance, or because of strong client preferences. We continue to win exciting new clients for our U.S. operations, like the two healthcare clients that I mentioned earlier, who rely on our US teams for sensitive and regulated processes. But it's clear that the growth engine of our business in years to come will be our efficient offshore operations in the Philippines and India, nearshore operations in Colombia and Mexico, and our digital automation capabilities. Given these trends and the uncertain macroeconomic environment, we've decided to take a cautious approach by setting a wider guidance range for 2023. As we near a floor on our U.S. revenue declines and accelerate the growth of our global delivery locations, we expect to return to growth in the back half of this year. We are focused on three initiatives to accelerate revenue growth over the course of 2023. First, we see meaningful opportunity to expand with the large global technology and traditional enterprise clients that we signed in 2022. Given our stellar performance in 2022, these clients focus on cost and our ability to deliver efficiencies, we're confident we're going to see meaningful growth here. Second, we've seen a significant increase in demand for our specialized services from industries where we have a distinct competitive advantage. We have exciting opportunities in the health tech and autonomous transportation spaces. I'm personally very excited about the services we're providing to the generative AI industry. Here again, we are well ahead of the competition, supporting the leader in the space and developing a set of specialized services that hundreds of startups in this space will need to develop and maintain their own models. Lastly, we're expanding our go-to-market efforts globally, in particular in Europe and Asia. As we grew in Europe in 2022, our HALU acquisition helped to cement our reputation there as a top service provider. In 2022, we supported approximately 40 clients that are based in Europe, tripling our European client base in just a single year. From our sites in Malaysia, Taiwan, and Japan, we're now providing services for the Asia operations of several of our largest global clients, positioning us well to compete for business in the region. global go-to-market expansion represents a vast opportunity area for us. By executing on these three initiatives, I believe that we will grow profitably in 2023 while increasing our adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. With that, I'll hand it over to Balaji to go through the Q4 financials in a bit more detail and provide our outlook for Q1 and the year ahead.
spk10: Thank you, Bryce, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to focus my remarks primarily on our fourth quarter, but will reference a few key full-year metrics. Please note that some of these items are non-GAAP measures, and the relevant reconciliations are attached to the press release we issued earlier today. In the fourth quarter, we earned total revenues of $242.2 million, an increase of 6.8% over the prior year. leading to total revenues for the year of $960.5 million and growth of 26.3%, higher than the top end of our guidance range. The strong revenue performance in the fourth quarter compared with guidance was primarily driven by two factors. First, the timing of offshoring for our largest client, which shifted from Q4 to Q1 resulting in higher revenues from this client in the quarter. Second, we also saw stronger seasonality with our consumer-exposed clients than we had expected as of the last earnings call, and some of the volume risks that we expected did not materialize. This was particularly true for clients in the e-commerce, food delivery, and on-demand transportation spaces. Our offshore delivery model presents an attractive way to drive efficiency into their businesses. Hence, as these clients had shifted their focus to cost this past holiday season, we were able to grow volumes with them. Moving on to our service offerings. We saw year-over-year growth in two of our three specialized service offerings. In the fourth quarter, our digital customer experience offering generated $159 million for a year-over-year growth rate of 7.3%. Our trust and safety business declined 5.1% compared to Q4 of 2021, resulting in $42.3 million of revenues, driven by the offshoring of volumes from our largest client. And our AI services business grew 20.1% year-over-year for revenues of $40.9 million. In Q4, we continue to see the diversification of our revenue base. Our revenue concentration with our largest client was 22%, consistent with Q3, and down from 25% in Q4 of 2021, while our second largest client comprised less than 10% of our revenue, consistent with Q3, and down from 11% in 2021. We showed sequential and year-over-year revenue growth with this client in both Q3 and Q4 of 2022. In Q4 of 2022, our top 10 and top 20 clients accounted for 58% and 71% of our revenue, respectively, compared to 60% and 75% in the prior year as our trend of revenue diversification continues. In the fourth quarter, we generated 54% of our revenues in the Philippines, 21% of our revenues in the United States, 12% of our revenues from India, and 13% of our revenues from the rest of the world, mainly driven by our operations in Europe and Asia. You'll note that we began reporting India as a standalone geography. Given our tremendous growth there over the past several years and the potential for India in the future to be as large as the Philippines, we felt that this increased disclosure was important. In terms of our cost of service, as a percentage of revenue, it was 57.5% in the fourth quarter compared to 56.2% in the prior year. The year-over-year increase was driven by wage inflation, expenses associated with our return to the office, and the transition costs associated with shifting work offshore. This was primarily offset by the strong U.S. dollar and the geographic mix of revenue. In the fourth quarter, our SG&E expenses were $64.5 million, or 26.6% of revenue. This compares with SG&E in Q4 2021 of $65.7 million, or 29% of revenue. We continue to invest in sales, automation, and the task force platform while taking significant actions to drive efficiency into the corporate functions. Stock compensation expenses in the quarter with $13.3 million relating to equity grants compared to $20.4 million in Q4 2021. Stock composition expense reductions in Q4 2022 were primarily offset by $4.8 million associated with the earn-out consideration accrual from our acquisition of Hello. We earned adjusted EBITDA of $57.9 million and a 23.9% margin in Q4 compared to $56.2 million at 24.8% margin in the fourth quarter last year. Our revenue growth, the strong U.S. dollar, and our geographic mix of revenue was partially offset by increased costs due to return to office, wage inflation, and expenses associated with transitioning work offshore. For the full year, we achieved $223.2 million in adjusted EBITDA and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23.2% above our guidance range. As our clients have shifted their focus to driving efficiencies into their businesses, so have we. In 2022, we kicked off a multi-year effort to improve the efficiency of our global operating model, leveraging automation and shared services, resulting in millions of dollars of savings last year. In 2023, we will continue these efforts, further optimizing our global operations and support and administrative functions through the use of technology and process design. This multi-year program will lead to approximately $20 million of in-year savings in 2023. This efficiency effort, combined with the growth of our higher margin offshore business, would allow us to continue to invest in strategic growth areas. It will also help offset wage inflation and other cost items and drive improvement in our adjusted EBITDA margins in the back half of 2023 and beyond. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $33.3 million and adjusted earnings per share was 33 cents, impacted by increased financing expenses and higher taxes in the quarter. By comparison, in the prior year period, we earned adjusted net income of $37.1 million and adjusted EPS of 34 cents. For the full year, Adjusted net income was $142.8 million and adjusted earnings per share was $1.39. Compared with $129.4 million in adjusted net income and $1.26 of adjusted earnings per share in 2021. Now moving on to our cash flow and balance sheet. Free cash flow was $24.9 million in Q4 and $103.3 million for the full year 2022, above our guidance of $100 million. This represents a conversion rate of 46.3% of adjusted EBITDA for the full year, in line with our medium-term target of being between 40% to 50%. Cash and cash equivalents were $134 million as of December 31st, 2022, compared with the September 30th balance of $122.5 million. Our DSO in the quarter remained flat at 66 days compared with Q3. Our capital expenditure decreased in the fourth quarter to $7.7 million, or 3% of revenues, compared to $20.8 million, or 9% of revenue, in Q4 of 2021. For the full year, CapEx was $43.8 million, or 5% of revenue, compared with $59 million in 2021, or 8% of revenue. This decrease was driven largely by better utilization of technology assets as employees returned back to the office. We expect that, over time, our build-out capex could trend lower as we leverage a more balanced work-from-home model, improving free cash flow conversion. In terms of use of cash, we maintained our disciplined capital allocation program, and this year, we allocated $100 million towards our buyback program. In the quarter, we bought 900,000 shares for $17.3 million. For the year, we had repurchased 1.6 million shares for $31 million. We will continue to allocate capital to our buyback program opportunistically. We continue to deliver the balance sheet and ended the year at 0.6 times net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio. Our priority remains investing for growth. Given the strength of our balance sheet, we have ample capacity to take action on any M&A opportunity that meet our investment criteria and to continue to return capital in the form of repurchases. At this point, I will outline our financial outlook for the full year and first quarter of 2023. We anticipate full year 2023 total revenue to be in the range of $940 to $990 million. We expect to earn a full year 2022 adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 23%. And we are confident we will achieve over $100 million in free cash flow in 2023, excluding the EARNOUT payment associated with the HELLO acquisition. This adjusted EBITDA margin guidance for the full year is based on current Forex rates, so any change to currency rates would impact our margins. As a reminder, the majority of our revenue is built and collected in U.S. dollars, so we do not see the impact from U.S. dollar fluctuation on our revenues. Our profitability will also be impacted by the typical wage inflation that we see on an annual basis. partially offset by higher gross margins achieved in our offshore geographies and the reduced G&A spending our team achieved in the back half of 2022. Looking at the more immediate term, our outlook for Q1 is unchanged from our expectations as of the time of the Q3 call. We will see the reduction from our Q4 seasonal volumes and we will realize the impact of the transition of work offshore for our largest client. As a result, we anticipate revenues to be in the range of $231 to $233 million, and we expect to earn an adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 21%. The adjusted EBITDA margin for Q1 will be impacted by lower revenues while we execute on our next phase of cost saving initiatives. We expect these to begin flowing through in Q2 and more significantly impact our reported margins in the back half of the year as we start growing again. I will now hand it back to Bryce before we take your questions. Thank you.
spk12: Thank you, Balaji. Before we open for questions, I want to share another Taskus teammate story. Earlier this month, I visited our team in Tijuana, Mexico. Our frontline first mantra means we invest in providing inspiring facilities and world-class benefits to attract and retain the best talent in the industry. In Mexico, we offer our teammates scholarships to take college courses part-time to advance their careers. Additionally, our teammates told me that we are the only BPO provider in the region to offer fully paid comprehensive health insurance. This program proved to be a critical investment for Marcos, our procurement manager at the Oasis location. Marcos joined Taskus from a manufacturing company, partially because we provided such good healthcare coverage. Marcos is a passionate motorcyclist, and earlier this year, he had a major fall while riding. Taskus Insurance paid for Marcos to go to a private hospital where he had emergency surgery and covered his salary during his recovery. In our conversation, Marcos remarked that joining Taskus might just have saved his life, and he ended the conversation by saying, I got my soul back when I joined Taskus. Listening to Marcos was a powerful reminder for me of the positive impact that Taskus has on the lives of our teammates across the globe. With that, I'll ask the operator to open our line for our question and answer session. Operator?
spk08: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. Your participant is using speaker equipment and may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question is from Maggie Nolan with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Hi, thank you. You had given some color on the pipeline, including some mention of large transformational deals. How quickly are you able to close deals of this nature, and would there be a resulting margin impact from these types of deals?
spk12: Yeah, thanks, Maggie, for the question. So I've talked before about shifting the way we bill our clients from hours to outcomes. We've done this in a number of cases in the past, but we're now seeing increased interest and larger deal size. The transformational deals in the pipeline today are in the tens of millions of dollars a year in revenue. And this shift is being driven by the increased focus on cost across our client base and the revolution that we're seeing in the generative AI space. So again, these transformational deals tend to have larger deal sizes and longer contract terms. They give us control over the levers that we need to drive margins, whether that's automation, process, or geographic delivery. And finally, we do expect that these deals will take somewhat longer to close than traditional deals. All that being said, I'm very excited about the prospect of these types of engagement to drive growth and margin expansion over time.
spk03: Okay, that's great to hear. And then, so it sounds like Maybe they materialize a little bit later in the year in terms of the revenue. And then, Balaji, you had mentioned some seasonality that drove revenue in the fourth quarter of 2022. What sort of expectations should we have for seasonality in 2023? Go ahead, Balaji.
spk10: Yeah, so Maggie, in terms of seasonality, what typically happens is that, especially with some of the consumer businesses, we do see seasonality pickup in Q4, and then we see that impacting in Q1. And then for the rest of the year, we typically don't see seasonality. We typically see a pickup again in Q4 of 2023 as we start gaining more seasonal work. But again, for the overall business, seasonality is not a big impact. It's a pretty small impact from a world revenue perspective for the year.
spk09: Okay, thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from Cassie Chan with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
spk00: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So first, I just wanted to ask, what are some of the assumptions that are baked into your 2023 outlook? So, you know, how much are you expecting for growth in your top client? You mentioned that in 4Q and 3Q, you grew your second largest client as well. You're in quarter over quarter. Are you expecting that trend to continue into 2023? And I think you gave a little bit of color on crypto as well. But I just wanted to make sure that I got that right in terms of you're expecting declines in crypto throughout 2023. Is that as a percentage of your total? Or is that in dollar terms of that 10.5 million you gave? Thank you.
spk12: Yeah, thanks, Cassie. So our current outlook for Q1 is consistent with the outlook that we provided on the Q3 call. In terms of Q2 and the back half of 2023, We're striking a cautious tone just due to macroeconomic uncertainty. And specifically, we're watching two things. The first is the speed of decision making. While our pipeline is larger than ever, we do anticipate some delayed decision making. And as I just said, those large transformational deals, we do expect those to take longer to close. The second is the economic environment continues to cause our clients to pursue cost savings, and this has increased the potential for further reductions and offshore shifts that impact our U.S. business. We do believe we're approaching a floor here, but at the midpoint of our guidance range, we contemplate a scenario in which U.S. revenues fall to just 15% of overall revenues in the back half of 2023, down from about a third of revenues in the first half of 2022. If we look at specific clients, at our largest client, we continue to have a very strategic relationship. Given our large offshore footprint, we do expect to see significant opportunities to help them save costs in 2023. As I said on the call, in 2022, our headcount supporting this client grew 29% year over year. With that being said, our largest client is very cost-focused this year, and that has meant they have looked for additional areas to cut costs in Q1. As an example, in addition to the reductions and offshore shifts that we discussed last quarter, this client has eliminated a line of business that we had expected to remain permanently in the U.S. during the first quarter, and this will have an impact on our year-over-year growth rates. As a result, the midpoint of our guidance contemplates a small year-on-year revenue decline while our volumes increase modestly at this client. Given our offshore footprint and the strong client relationship, we believe we're well positioned to continue to take share from our competitors and grow here over time. In terms of the crypto space, our guidance contemplates a slight reduction in run rate annual revenues from Q4. We continue to support the largest players in both the crypto and equity trading spaces, and I believe we're actually the largest provider for many of our clients in this space. But the volumes that some of these clients have been reduced by up to 95%, given the ongoing crypto winter that's being experienced.
spk00: Got it. Super helpful. And then just a follow up. So, you know, you guys obviously gave a guidance range for revenues, but, you know, gave a more of a specific number for margins for that 23%. You know, at the low end of the revenue range, how should we think about how much flexibility you have in terms of achieving that margin outlook?
spk10: Yeah, so Kathy, in terms of the guidance, we provided 23% guidance at the big point. And in terms of the low end of the range, we have demonstrated that in 2022 that we've been able to react to changes in revenues by adjusting our cost base and maintaining our EBITDA margin. So we beat our initial guidance that we provided for EBITDA and for free cash flows in 2022, despite some of the headwinds that we had from a revenue perspective. And also on the call, I spoke about an efficiency program that we started in 2022 and will continue through that in 2023, which will deliver full year savings of about $20 million. So we'll size this program appropriately based on our forecast and performance throughout the year. And also we'll be very thoughtful in this exercise to make sure that we continue to invest in all the appropriate areas that is required in the business to grow double digit and continue to invest in sales and technology.
spk09: Thanks, guys.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from Dan Perlin with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
spk11: Thanks. Good evening. I just wanted to follow up a little bit on the question around AI. I mean, it's obviously super topical. You guys are kind of talking about it like it's going to be a potentially large opportunity transformational. I think that's the way you described it with your clients. But I also want to understand maybe the flip side of that. I mean, do you see... You know, maybe the balance between the positive attributes and new client wins for you. But what about, you know, potential headwinds or risks that you foresee, you know, to your business? And maybe some of the things you've done in the past get a little bit more cannibalized if possible. Thanks.
spk12: Dan, thanks so much for the question. So we're incredibly excited about the revolution that's taking place in generative AI. And as you say, there are two important questions that we need to ask when considering the potential implications of this technology for Cascos. The first question is, in what ways can we support the creation of these generative AI technologies? As I mentioned on the call, we're working with the market leader in the space, providing them trust and safety and AI services. And since our last call, this industry has exploded with hundreds of new entrants and hundreds of millions of dollars in venture fundings. We're engaged with many of these companies on opportunities to provide them with our AI services and trust and safety support. As with past technology trends in social media and on-demand transportation and food delivery, we plan to become the industry leader for support services for the generative AI space. But the second question that we need to ask is, what will the impact of generative AI be on our digital CX business? Our digital automation team has been working with OpenAI's GPT-3 API for over a year. We've built a number of amazing prototypes and are actively engaged with clients to use this technology to improve the efficiency of their support process. In fact, in 2022, we launched a scaled support solution using generative AI technology for one of our large enterprise customers. The results are really exciting, but there are also challenges. Large language models have a well-documented tendency to hallucinate, in other words, make up an answer. And these models must also be integrated into our client's existing technology stack in order to be effective. So for the foreseeable future, generative AI is going to create a lot more work for service providers and system integrators than it will destroy or cannibalize. In the next few years, our belief is that most of the profits in this industry are going to accrue to picks and shovels providers like Task Us. But long term, the question is, what will the impact be? And at this point, I'd say anyone who claims to understand exactly what the impact is going to be from the technology would be speculating. So if I had to speculate, I'd say that I'm watching two trends that I think may emerge. The first is that There may be a reduced need for native language support as translation models improve. Support and moderation will be able to be performed in the lowest cost country. And here I think our operations in the Philippines and India are particularly well suited. And second, there's likely to be an increase for demand for white glove support. And this is because when simple support interactions are automated, one of the key ways companies will differentiate from one another will be based on the quality of support in those moments that matter. Here, our focus on premium support positioned us well to deliver. So it's early days, but we've been very excited about this space. I think we've seen solid progress, and we'll continue to stay on top of it in the quarters to come.
spk11: Yeah, that's a great answer. Thank you. Just a quick follow-up on gross margins. As you think about kind of the pivot to more offshore out of the United States and the pace of that change, is that cadence I mean, obviously it's positive for gross margins, but is that cadence, I guess, consistent with the trends that we would expect to see within EBITDA, or is there a timing difference between certain aspects of that? Thanks.
spk10: Yeah, so I'll maybe just quickly talk about gross margins. While we do not guide on gross margins, but we expect it to be roughly flat compared to 2022. And the reason why we're seeing is that we are continuing to see the benefit from mixed shift, but it's been somewhat offset because of the impact of wage inflation. And then the second factor is what I spoke about earlier, is the depreciation in the US dollar. when compared to especially the second half of 2022 for the Filipino peso. So while majority of our revenues is built in US dollars, we do have exposure from a cost perspective when this happens. And then the last is the shift that we saw for the largest client from shifting from onshore to offshore getting into Q1. So that is what is happening from a gross margin perspective. And you kind of see some kind of a pretty good alignment between gross margins and EBITDA. One additional factor is that we will be optimizing our G&A spend, which I spoke about earlier, like capturing about $20 million of optimization in our G&A cost. So that will be additional benefit that we may not see at a gross margin level, but we'll start seeing more at an adjusted EBITDA level is what we see. Brett, anything else to add there?
spk12: Yeah, I would just add that while our expectations this year is for essentially flat gross margin, as we look at 2024 and more of a full year impact of those offshore shifts, also combined with the automation projects and large transformational deals that we're undertaking, we see a path to expanding gross margins over time.
spk11: Great. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from Puneet Jain with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
spk07: Yeah, hey, thanks for taking my question. Rice, I was glad to hear you talk about growth strategies. Can those strategies get you growing into double digits beyond this year? And if you can double-click on benefits you can expect from the large tech and enterprise clients this year and beyond, that'd be great.
spk12: Yeah, thanks so much for the question, Puneet. So on our last call, I said that we expected to return to double digit revenue growth in the back half of this year. As we start 2023, we see double digit revenue growth returning in Q4 in the top half of the guidance range that we're providing today. And as I said on the call, there are three growth initiatives that we're focused on to get us there. First, we need to continue to expand our relationships with those big tech and enterprise clients that we won in 2022. And as these clients ramp up their cost savings initiatives, there are meaningful opportunities ahead for us. There are also meaningful opportunities ahead across their subsidiary companies, which we're actively engaged with. Second, we need to take advantage of the significant opportunities that we're perfectly positioned for, just like those in that generative AI space that I just discussed. And finally, we're going to accelerate our go-to-market efforts in both Europe and Asia. So the combination of these three growth initiatives will bring us back to double-digit revenue growth and I believe put us on a trajectory to grow into double digits in 2024 and beyond.
spk07: Got it. And you also talked about the U.S. mix to revenue could decline to 15% in the back half of this year. How much of downside is left to that mix or how low that mix can go given there is some work that cannot move offshore? And how should we think about a gross margin benefit, if you can quantify the gross margin benefit of McShift?
spk12: Yeah, thanks, Puneet. I'll take the first question, and then I'll let Balaji answer the second. So clearly, the biggest headwinds to our business in 2022 and 2023 have come from the impacts we've seen in our U.S. delivery. As we've discussed before, this was driven by the large volume reductions at our large crypto and equity trading clients, as well as the shift offshore at our largest client. In addition to these impacts, we have seen some smaller movements of teams offshore which have created additional headwinds that we need to outgrow. To size this in dollar terms, if we compare our annual U.S. revenue run rate from Q1 of 2021 to Q1 of 2023, the forecast we have for the U.S., we've lost approximately $130 million of annual revenue from U.S. delivery. Given these trends, before we provided our guidance, we did a detailed review of our entire U.S. business, and we struck a cautious tone in today's guidance, taking the percentage of revenues coming from U.S. delivery in the back half of 2023 down to 15% of total revenues at the midpoint. At that stage, the majority of the work that remains in the U.S. must stay in the U.S. for regulatory reasons and process compliance. Additionally, we continue to win exciting new clients for our U.S. operations, just like the two healthcare firms that I mentioned earlier, who rely on us for sensitive and regulated operational processes. So with all that said, the U.S. is absolutely a key geography for us and will continue to play a vital role in our global delivery model.
spk10: And Preet, I'll touch upon your second question quickly. So offshore revenues generate lower revenues per head when compared to onshore. So it's, let's say, about 30% to 40% of onshore revenues. But from a margin perspective, it does tend to stay higher, which means about 70% to 80% higher margin. So while the profit dollars that you get offshore may not may not be flat in terms of what we are losing, but we do generate higher margin percentage. So that is going to be accretive to the model, especially as we start growing offshore in the second half of the year. So that is going to be helping us from a margin accretion perspective, getting to about 23% EBITDA for the whole year.
spk09: Got it. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from Ryan Potter with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: Hey, thanks for taking my question. On the call, you mentioned that some clients were turning you to support following headcount reductions on their side. So I was just wondering if this is a trend you're seeing in multiple instances. And I guess, could you remind us, as clients kind of pivot and shift their focus more to costs, what are the typical actions they take? Sir, do you have to help on the cost side or is there usually kind of a lag where you kind of think through their actions?
spk12: Yeah, thank you for the question, Ryan. So we're seeing this across industries and across geographies. I believe on our last call I talked about both a gaming customer who shipped out a large portion of their European support to our operations in Greece and a large e-commerce customer that shifted a large portion of their global support to our operations in the Philippines and India. And that trend continued into Q4 across clients in the social media, fintech, and gaming spaces. And sorry, the second question was?
spk06: Just typical actions clients take as they kind of pivot to costs.
spk12: Yeah, I think what we're seeing is really a consultative-led approach here. So our client service teams are having strategic conversations with our clients as they're contemplating these shifts. Those shifts has been factored into the 2023 budget conversations that we talked about earlier. And we do see that as a continued driver of growth this year.
spk06: Got it. And I guess off of that, are you also seeing increased instances of clients undergoing vendor consolidation exercises? And if so, have you typically fared in these? Have you continued to maintain or approve wallet share with the majority of your clients?
spk12: Yeah, so we have seen a few instances of vendor consolidation efforts brought on by our clients' increased focus on cost. Fortunately, we stirred very well in all of those exercises and have increased our share. As I discussed on the call, we've seen our share increase materially at our largest client. We try to size this by talking about the headcount increase that we saw in the year of about 29%. This has been consistent across our largest clients. We are a key part of their vendor strategy. They like to work with Taskus because of our agility and innovation. And our offshore delivery footprint in the Philippines and India positions us very well to help them save costs.
spk09: Great. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from Dave Coning with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Yeah. Hey, guys. Just a couple quick ones. I guess in the content business, I know this year obviously the drag has been and the back half has been just on offshore movement. is that a business do you expect that to grow are there any headwinds you know whether it's you know political ad review stuff or any any one-off type stuff into 2023 that kind of goes away in the future and just kind of how do we think that once we're steady state geographically you know is that a 10 plus business yeah thanks for for the question dave so
spk12: At a volume level, this business continues to grow well into the double digits. But obviously, at a revenue level, we face some headwinds as a result of those shifts at our largest client. As we lap those shifts this year, we do expect to return to meaningful revenue growth within the trust and safety space. And to elaborate here a little bit, we're seeing opportunities across clients in the social media space. dating and e-commerce space for our content moderation solutions. And we've also embedded most of the work we're doing in the risk and response space in our trust and safety numbers. And there we're continuing to see strong demand for all of our financial crimes and fraud work across our e-commerce and fintech customers.
spk02: Yeah, that makes sense. And then just for biology, just a couple of really quick ones. Tax rate kind of moved around this last year, but is it kind of mid-teens to high-teens, just like in 2022? And then debt rates, I would assume maybe interest growth goes up just a touch sequentially and then kind of holds in there the rest of the year?
spk10: Yeah, so from a tax rate perspective, again, 2022, effective tax rate was about 37%. compared to the 2021 effective tax rate of 4%. And the reason why 2021 was low is because we had the one-time fantastic stock sales. And from a gap, non-gap ETR, we were about 20%, 21 or 20% between 2022 and 2021. And then we expect 2023 ETR to be at about 36%, which is pretty much in line with 2022. And then from an interest cost perspective, again, we ended the year at about 6.6% interest rate, and we would expect that to continue getting into 2023.
spk02: Gotcha. All right. Hey, thanks, guys.
spk08: Thank you. Our next question is from James Fonstad with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Great. Thank you very much. I just want to go back to this point around offshoring. I think, Balaji, you mentioned that in the fourth quarter you'd expected to move some work offshore, and then that didn't happen, so that resulted in some better revenue. But, A, I want to make sure that I understood that correctly, and if you are expecting that to still go offshore in the future, but more importantly and more broadly, what are the conversations that you're having with, you know, beyond your existing customers where it sounds like you've
spk12: kind of did an analysis of what could happen there but with new customers are they looking to task us to amp up or ramp up what they can do offshore from a customer support perspective etc yeah I'll take that question James so to be clear here at our largest client last quarter we talked about the fact that we would be transitioning some additional work offshore in q4 and That shift got pushed from the end of Q4 to the start of Q1, thus the revenue impact. We saw an additional just reduction of work at that client, which brings the total permanent workforce supporting that client in the U.S. to just a handful of teammates. So effectively, all of the recurring revenue from that client is no longer going to be in the U.S., When we think about this trend more broadly, we've looked across our U.S. client base and really asked the question, which of these revenues must stay in the U.S. because of regulation or process compliance reasons? And we factored those risks into the guidance that we provided today, which at the midpoint contemplates U.S. revenues dropping to 15% in the back half of the year.
spk01: That's great. And then just quickly, sequential headcount growth looks somewhat muted in the quarter. How much of that is a function of the mixed shift offshore? And really what I'm trying to get at is how should we think about your pace of hiring in the calendar 23, especially as we think we're probably reaching some level of mixed stabilization here?
spk12: Yeah, it's a great question. So we added 800 net new teammates. in the fourth quarter, that number was lower than it would have been if we factored in all of the seasonal volumes. And the reason for that is that a lot of the seasonal hiring that we do happens in September, preparing us for the full quarter. As we look at this year, we will see a reduction in our global headcount in the first quarter as those seasonal volumes are removed. And we take into consideration some of the additional reductions in the U.S. business. But we expect to get back to sequential headcount growth in the second quarter of this year.
spk09: Thank you very much.
spk08: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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