3/2/2021

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Operator
Conference Operator

Greetings and welcome to the TG Therapeutics fourth quarter and year-end 2020 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. In order to ask a question, please dial in and press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Jenna Bosco, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.

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Jenna Bosco
Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications

Thank you. Welcome, everyone, and thanks for joining us this morning. I'm Jenna Bosco, and with me today to discuss the fourth quarter and year-end 2020 financial results and provide a business update are Sean Power, our Chief Financial Officer, Michael Weiss, our Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Adam Waldman, our Chief Commercialization Officer. Following our Safe Harbor statement, Sean Power will provide a brief overview of our financial results and then turn the call over to Michael Weiss, who will provide an overview of our recent corporate developments as well as an update on our current pivotal programs and key goals for 2021. Adam Waldman will then provide an update on our commercialization efforts before handing the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that various remarks that we make about our future expectations, plans, and prospects constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. EG cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those indicated. Factors that may affect EG Therapeutics operations include various risk factors that can be found in our most recent Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2020, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, any forward-looking statements made on this call represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. This conference call is being recorded for audio rebroadcast on TG's website, www.tgtherapeutics.com, where it will be available for the next 30 days. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Sean Power, our CFO.

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Sean Power
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Jenna, and thanks, everyone, for joining us. As you may be aware, our financial results were released this morning and can be viewed on the Investors in Media section of our website. I'll kick things off with our cash position. We are happy to have substantially strengthened our balance sheet over the course of 2020, allowing us to end the year with more than $600 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investment securities. Turning for a moment to the financial results. Excluding non-cash items, our net loss for the fourth quarter of 2020 was approximately $54.7 million compared to $34 million in the fourth quarter of 2019. The increase we've seen in net loss as compared to the 2019 quarter is primarily related to increased G&A expenses associated with our preparations for the commercialization and launch of EUCONIC, which occurred in the first quarter of 2021. Our GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter of 2020, inclusive of non-cash items, was 88.2 million, or 71 cents per share, compared to a net loss of 39.6 million, or 44 cents per share, during the comparable quarter in 2019. Our net loss for the year ended December 31st, 2020, excluding non-cash items, was approximately 199.1 million compared to 161.4 million for the 2019 year end. The year-over-year increase in net loss is primarily driven by an increase in commercialization costs, as previously discussed. On the R&D front, we incurred approximately 21 million in licensing milestones during 2020, which was partially offset by a decrease in manufacturing and CNC expenses as compared to the prior period. The GAAP net loss for the 2020 year end, inclusive of non-cash items, was $279.4 million, or $2.42 per share, compared to a net loss of $172.9 million, or $1.96 per share, for the year ended December 31, 2019. terms of what we expect moving forward i think approximately 50 million per quarter for 2021 similar to 2020 is probably in line with our expectations we expect to see decreases in r d over the next few quarters as some of our large trials wind down however this will likely be offset by an increase in commercialization expenses over those seen in 2020 looking out further r d expenses should pick back up in Q4 and through 2022 as we hit peak enrollment in our next generation of pivotal trials, including our MZL and FL confirmation study and our triple therapy trials in CLL. Similarly, in 2022, we will see further growth of SG&A with our potential launches in CLL and MS. Taken together, without accounting for revenues, we believe our current cash will take us out into 2023. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Mike Weiss, our Executive Chairman and CEO.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thank you, Sean, and thank you, Jen, and thanks to all of you for joining us this morning. 2021 is certainly off to an exciting start with the recent accelerated approval of our first medicine, umbralisib, now called Uconic, for the treatment of relapsed or refractory marginal zone and follicular lymphoma. This was an incredible achievement for the team, and we are thankful to everyone who helped along the way to reach this exciting milestone. With UConn approval, our company has transformed into a fully integrated commercial organization, and we are incredibly proud of the progress already made under the leadership of Adam Waldman, our Chief Commercialization Officer, who will join us shortly to provide some color around the early commercialization efforts. Before I hand it over to Adam, I want to highlight some of the important accomplishments for 2020 that have positioned us for an exciting 21 and beyond. I want to give special thanks to the TG team for working tirelessly to achieve these important milestones. With that, let's review some of these significant developments over the past 12 months or so. First and foremost, I mentioned at the outset of these prepared remarks, we received the exciting news early last month that the FDA granted accelerated approval of Uconic for the treatment of adult patients with relapsed or refractory marginal zone lymphoma who have received at least one prior anti-CD20-based regimen, and adults with relapsed or refractory follicular lymphoma, who have received at least three prior lines of systemic therapy. On the data front, December was about as good as it gets for us at TG. At ASH, we presented pivotal results from both our UNITY NHL trial as well as our UNITY CLL trial. For the UNITY NHL study, the data showed that umbilicit monotherapy demonstrated an overall response rate of 49.3% in patients with a relapsed or refractory marginal zone lymphoma and 45.3% overall response rate in patients with a relapsed or refractory follicular lymphoma. For UNITY CLL, we presented data demonstrating that U2 achieved the primary endpoint of improving progression-free survival over standard of care chemoimmunotherapy, and those results were consistent for patients with treatment-naive CLL as well as relapsed or refractory CLL. In addition, there was a significant improvement in overall response rate, a secondary endpoint. Finally, at ASH, we also presented data from the triple combination of U2 plus venetoclax in patients with a relapsed or refractory CLL and also triple combo data from U2 plus TG1701 in patients with relapsed refractory CLL or other B-cell lymphomas. I do encourage investors to carefully review both of those presentations. In the U2 Venn study, in the 19 patients who completed 12 cycles of treatment, essentially 12 months of treatment, we reported 100% overall response rate, with 96% of the patients achieving undetectable MRD in the peripheral blood, and 77% of those patients achieving undetectable MRD in the bone marrow. Also, folks should take another look at the 1701 data, our BTK inhibitor. In addition to the U2 plus 1701 combination data, which looked very promising, I would note that the single agent overall response was 95% in the 20 CLL patients treated at the 200 milligram once daily dose level. So clearly a very active agent. I would also encourage folks to look at the safety and tolerability of that same 200 milligram dose and compare that to the tolerability and tox profile of the best BTK inhibitors, both covalent and non-covalent. I think you'll find it pretty interesting and potentially could be a differentiator. Also in December, Just a few days after the ASH conference where we presented all that exciting B-cell cancer data, we were excited to announce the much-anticipated top-line results of our two Phase III studies of lubotoxinib and relapsing forms of multiple sclerosis, our ultimate one and two studies. Both trials met their primary endpoint of significantly reducing annualized relapse rate with a p-value of less than 0.005 in each study. Of particular interest was that an annualized relapse rate of less than 0.10 was achieved in both studies in the ublituximab arms, something that has been described by the KOLs as breaking an important barrier, one that has not been achieved before in any previous MS Phase III trials. As you can imagine, we are very excited about these top-line results, and we're working hard to finalize the full data for presentation, including safety and secondary analysis, which is targeted for the first half of this year and will be used to support an OOBLI RMS BLA submission, which is targeted for mid-year. As noted, the initial feedback from the KOL community has been very positive and supports our confidence that MS is an important opportunity for TG. Finally, also in December, based on the positive unity CLL data, we announced that we commenced the rolling BLA submission for ibatuximab in combination with UKI, so that's our U2 combination, for patients with CLL, for which we are targeting completion of this submission in the first half of this year. 2020 was also a year where TG's drugs were recognized by a number of high-impact medical journals for publication. including the final Phase II results of ubituximab in multiple sclerosis in the multiple sclerosis journal, the final Phase II data evaluating umbralisib in patients with CLL who are intolerant to prior BTK or PI3K inhibitors in the journal Blood, the final results from the Phase III genuine trial evaluating ubituximab plus abrutinib in patients with relapsed or refractory high-risk CLL was published in the Lancet Hematology. And finally, on the preclinical side, data describing the unique immunomodulatory effects of Armbolicib was published in Blood Advances, a journal of the American side of hematology. And last but certainly not least, in 2020, we strengthened our cash position And as Sean mentioned, we were able to end the year with approximately $600 million in cash. And we also strengthened our team with the addition of approximately 140 new full-time TG team members dedicated to our long-term vision of developing and commercializing novel treatment options for patients with B-cell diseases. As you can see, 2020 was a data-rich, regulatory-driven year, where we grew our organization and paved the way for impactful milestones to be achieved in 2021, starting with the approval last month of Uconic in both relapsed or refractory marginal zone and follicular lymphoma. With that as a segue, I'm excited to turn the call over to our Chief Commercialization Officer, Adam Waldman, to share some thoughts on the launch of Uconic, following which the operator will begin the Q&A session. Adam?

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Yep, thanks, Mike, and thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning. I'm excited to share some highlights on the progress of the Uconic launch. Because approval occurred after the close of the fourth quarter, we will not report any sales metrics today. Instead, I will highlight our accomplishments and provide some high-level qualitative insights into what we are seeing in the launch so far. As Mike mentioned, we were extremely pleased on February 5th to receive accelerated approval for Uconic in both relapse and refractory, marginal zone, and follicular lymphoma ahead of their PDUFA dates. And even with the earlier than anticipated approval, especially in follicular lymphoma, which happened more than four months before the PDUFA date, we were fully prepared to launch. Within hours of the approval, we launched Uconic.com, initiated distribution of our marketing materials and digital campaigns, And our TGA patient support program was up and running. Just as a reminder, TGA patient support is a comprehensive program designed to support patients through their treatment journey and the reimbursement process. Our field teams across sales, medical, marketing, and access were fully trained pre-approval and started engaging with customers on Uconnix Label on day one. We have since had very positive interactions with physicians, mid-levels, nurses, pharmacists, and administrators since launch. We have had good access to our target accounts and reception to Uconic has been overwhelmingly positive. Many are excited to have a new treatment option for patients with these diseases in which there is no standard of care after initial first-line treatment. Customers have been impressed with the safety and tolerability profile, a lack of a black box warning, low rates of discontinuations, the unique mechanism of action, simple dose modifications, and consistent efficacy across both marginal zone and follicular lymphoma. We have trained several expert speakers to help educate the community on Uconic and have already conducted multiple national and regional speaker programs within the key community oncology networks. We have also been working closely with our advocacy partners who are excited about the approval of Uconic and have been educating the marginal zone and follicular patient community about this new treatment option. We thank them for all they do for patients, and we remain committed to supporting the lymphoma community moving forward. Despite the unprecedented weather in the central and southern United States over the past month, Uconic left our 3PL facility within one week of approval. Drug is now fully available in the channel through our specialty pharmacy and specialty distributors, and prescriptions are being processed. Our market access team, along with the medical team, has been actively meeting with payers to ensure that Uconic is placed on formulary and available to patients. So far, our conversations with these payers have been very productive, and we remain confident we'll achieve broad coverage to our FDA label for Uconic. Within days of the approval, we were also pleased to see that the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, or the NCCN, added Uconic to its clinical practice guidelines and compendiums for both marginal zone and follicular lymphoma. This is a positive step forward and provides additional support for the adoption of the ACONIC. While we are in the very early days post-FDA approval, we believe the commercial launch thus far is off to a very strong start. And with that, thank you, everyone, for your time this morning, and I will turn the call over to the conference operator to begin the question-and-answer session.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Your first question comes from the line of Alethia Young with Cancer Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question.

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Alethia Young
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Hey, guys. Congrats on all the progress over 2020. It truly did play out the way you kind of said it, Mike. I have two questions. One, just maybe if you can talk a little bit more. I know it sounds like it's going quite well with the launch, but just talk a little bit more about, you know, how the market might have been a little bit hesitant of older PI3 kinases. And, you know, just kind of give us some flavor for, you know, is that evolving? Is it really because of the label or is it because of the totality? But do you sense that, you know, people are more open-minded around, you know, kind of the safety profile that Econics provides? And then the second question is just in multiple sclerosis or in that with the U2 combinations, how are you guys thinking about timelines around maybe starting other studies, maybe in like TTMS or in other indications there? Thanks.

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Hey, Mike, you want me to start with the first one? Yes, please. Sorry, I'm huge. Go ahead, Adam. Yeah, that's okay. Thanks, Alethea, for the question. Yeah, you know, obviously we knew that there was an overhang amongst the class, but what we're seeing so far is that Uconic is seen as differentiated both from a mechanism of action standpoint, being specific to the Delta and with CK1 epsilon inhibition, As well as the safety profile, it is distinctly different from what physicians are expecting with the class. So that's what we've seen so far, and the feedback from the physicians is very consistent with what we've seen in the market research as well.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

And on the MS and autoimmune front, I'd say we have not made a decision on how we want to address PPMS. but we are looking at study designs there. We're looking at study designs for switch studies from OkraVis to Ubley, and we're also continuing to evaluate some other indications. I'd say our target is to have at least one additional study open before year-end, and we'll keep you posted.

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Alethia Young
Analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald

Great. Thank you.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yep.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You got it. Your next question comes from the line of Roger Song with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

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Roger Song
Analyst at Jefferies

Great. Thank you. Congrats on the progress. Maybe one question for Adam is since this is early to the launch and certainly we see some pretty positive signal, but moving forward, like next few quarters, what kind of launch metrics for the are you connect for for their calendar marginal zone, you will expecting to update to us.

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. So, so in future calls, we'll obviously report on that revenue. In addition, we will, we'll plan on sharing both quantitative and qualitative insights and metrics to demonstrate our progress with our strategy and execution. and market performance where we see appropriate. I guess some examples maybe, and we're still working through exactly how we're going to do this, but examples may be qualitative customer insights and feedback like I just provided, but we'll look at customer engagement metrics, performance and targeted customer accounts, And of course, progress with payer coverage and reimbursement. That's the plan so far, but as I said, we continue to work on it. But hopefully that answers your question.

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Roger Song
Analyst at Jefferies

Yeah, that's helpful. Thank you. Okay, and the next question may be for Adam or Mike. We understand that all the hands just follow on the Alicia's question. for the PI3K class, but since you have seen this kind of differentiation and the positive feedback from doctors, and I'm just curious, your expectation for the sales ramp-up, you're expecting some quick ramp-up because the enthusiasm from the physician you have been talking with, because we know a lot of the community doc already used the Uconic during the Unity NHL or earlier clinical studies?

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'll jump in and you can add on top of that, Adam. I think we're still, from where I sit in my communications with the street, I think we want to take a tempered approach. The early engagement looks quite positive, but we're still dealing with relatively small patient populations with marginal zone and follicular. I don't want people to assume that, you know, this thing is going to ramp overnight so rapidly. I mean, it could. Adam may give you a different answer, but I think as a corporate answer, I think we want to be very cautious. You know, marginal and follicular are really great indications for us to start with, but obviously we're expecting the ramp to really start to go into play when we start launching it to scale well. Adam, you could add on top of that, but.

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Yeah, I agree. I mean, you know, we're enthusiastic about the reaction from physicians who are definitely seeing a differentiated profile on, as I mentioned, on MOA and safety. So that's good, but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. I think Mike mentioned these are relatively small patient populations. It also is an indolent disease, and I you know, we still are dealing with COVID and, you know, patient, there's just not as much urgency as with the acute diseases. Patients will come in and, you know, but it will be paced and we'll have to watch that and see how it goes. But I agree with what Mike said.

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Roger Song
Analyst at Jefferies

Got it. Yeah, that's understood. And yeah, so Yeah, good to have some color around the expectation. Thank you, Mike and Adam. That's it from me. Congrats again.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks, Roger.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Eric Joseph with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

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Rahul
Analyst at J.P. Morgan

Hi, good morning. This is Rahul on for Eric. Thanks for taking the question. This is Stu from us. Firstly, can you talk about how physicians view the comparative safety profile of Calkins versus Empruvica? And what's the anticipated competitive dynamic of U2 relative to calculus? And secondly, what should we think about the earliest data readouts from the Ultra V triad? Should we expect a top-lane readout with response rates or, you know, something more mature like a duration of response in PFS?

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So... I'll take a crack at the first question and a crack at the second one, and Adam, chime in. So, you know, Calquins versus Arbutinib, you know, again, it's sort of third-hand. We're talking about drugs that aren't ours. But my impression is that there are some folks who believe that Calquins has a marginally better toxicity and tolerability profile over Arbutinib. I think overall, ibrutinib will continue to be the market leader in CLL in terms of BTK inhibitors of choice. We've seen in ibrutinib patients who have grown intolerant that go on calquins, I think over 50% of them will continue to have the same issue that they had with ibrutinib. I'll double check those numbers, but We did an intolerance study that showed a much cleaner profile for patients coming off of ibrutinib, seeking another therapy in terms of patients that were intolerant. That data we mentioned was published in blood. So, you know, I think, you know, where does U2 fit in? Again, whatever issue is associated with ibrutinib is also associated with calquins, right? So they are not... Separate from the general toxicity profile, you're still going to see about half the patients with bleeding and bruising issues. You're still going to see several percentage of the patients with AFib and cardiovascular risk. And if the patient has preexisting cardiovascular conditions or they have some bleeding risks or they have drug-drug interactions that folks are worried about, particularly lots of patients need to be on antifungals, all of which are contraindicated with both Calquin's and Ibrutinib. So U2 really fits in nicely into patients who either have seen a BTK inhibitor and have come off for tolerability issues, or in patients who walk in the door and have some of the issues that I've mentioned, U2 really provides a nice, we believe, opportunity for patients to get a treatment option that doesn't have those issues. With respect to UltraV, The study is a single-arm trial, so the most important data is overall response and duration of response. That's typically how the single-arm studies work. Well, of course, over time, follow-up patients, not only for duration of response, but for question for survival and overall survival. But the endpoints for this trial, the primary endpoint, I believe, is ORR or CR, and we also, I think, are very important metrics for this study are rates of undetectable minimal residual disease, which continues to be remarkably high in the early data. So as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, 19 patients were presented from the U2 then phase one program who had completed 12 months of therapy. where we showed 100% overall response rate with a 96% undetectable MRD in the blood and 77% undetectable in the bone marrow. Relative to other therapies, I believe that in relapsed patients, those are the best undetectable MRD rates that have been reported to date. Again, it's only 19 patients thus far, so we've got room to grow that. We will have By the end of this year, we could have anywhere from 50 to 100 patients potentially to report on with those same metrics. But that's the plan. The next step in that program, to give folks a little look ahead, is once we complete the enrollment into the Phase II portion, the Phase III portion of that trial will open, and then we will be looking for a PFS endpoint that would be usable for full approval. Hopefully that helps, Ronald.

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Rahul
Analyst at J.P. Morgan

Thanks. Thanks. Yep.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ed White with HC Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

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Ed White
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. So just on the CLL, I think Sean had mentioned launches for CLL and MS in 2022. I'm just wondering if we can get your thoughts on a potential priority review, if that's possible, in an earlier launch of CLL in 2021. And then I also wanted to get your thoughts on YouTube pricing.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So we're hopeful that we'll receive priority review. We do have a fast track designation, which doesn't fully entitle one to priority review, but we do think that it puts us on the right track toward a priority review. So we'll be pushing forward and asking for a private review. And the second question in terms of YouTube pricing, I think we would anticipate that YouTube pricing would be competitive and strategically be able to be priced versus other potential doublets that are available. So right now, you know, we have a, we have a price for, for umbilicib. We'll, we'll soon at some point, uh, price with tuximab. Uh, but ideally when we put the two pieces together, uh, and using whatever discounts make sense, uh, we'll be able to put out a price that strategically, uh, puts us in a really nice competitive location versus, uh, some other doublets that are out there in CLL.

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Ed White
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Thanks, Mike. And, uh, Just a question on MS launch. Again, you know, thinking of pricing, so you're launching in MS and we'll launch in oncology as well. You know, how should we be thinking about pricing there? And, you know, also, where is it going to fit in the, you know, knowing the data that you know today, where is it going to fit in the changing treatment paradigm in MS?

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so... I'll start with the second part of that question and move back to the pricing after that. So, look, our belief and we think the belief of the other participants in the CD20 marketplace are that CD20s are going to be moved earlier and earlier in the treatment algorithm. We think that's, you know, we're kind of excited to see our metadata at some point. I haven't seen it yet, but You know, no evidence of disease activity is kind of this interesting measure and sort of gets people, you know, thinking about the halting of the progression of these diseases and the disease process. So assuming that, you know, that our data and data from the other CD20s continue to support the fact that if you get them on a CD20 early, you can really arrest the disease process. That's an exciting opportunity. And so, again, we think that we'll be moving earlier and earlier. And our positioning within the class of three CD20s, so we think CD20s will be the largest class of MS treatment options. And we believe that lubatoxamab has a very important position within that class of three. As we've noted previously, we think that the one-hour infusion every six months is is a very convenient and fits within the practice of MS physicians who like to see their patients at least every six months. Getting them in with a one-hour infusion is really quite convenient for both the patient and the physicians, and it's quite good for the infusion centers, the ability to move patients in and out and handle more capacity, which is always at a premium. We're also, you know, we continue now, I'll head into the pricing aspect. We've continued and we will continue to maintain that we believe that strategically pricing Lutuximab is a way for us to gain market share. And we do things that, as it stands right now, certainly based on the annualized relapse rate data that we have, certainly to date the best results are And, you know, we think that obviously will help the marketing team, but, you know, our goal is to bring every lever to the table to try to optimize our market share within what we believe is going to be the largest market opportunity for MS.

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Ed White
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Great. Thanks for taking my questions, Mike.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Ed. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Kaplan with Lattenberg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.

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Matt Kaplan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Hi, good morning, guys, and thanks for taking the question. I guess more of a follow-up, I guess maybe for Adam. I guess given, you know, the lack of black box warning and the unique safety profile for Uconic, how are doctors, I guess, thinking about incorporating it into their treatment regimens and protocols for relapse-remitting patients? Sorry, not relapsed, I mean relapsed refractory follicular and marginal zone patients now.

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Yeah, I mean, you said it. I mean, the fact is in this patient population, tolerability, convenience play a critical role and is top of mind for physicians treating patients with indolent diseases such as follicular and marginal zone patients. You know, docs, at least initially, have been very, very impressed with the data in marginal zone and, you know, see it as being an option right after first-line therapy. In follicular, they like the profile. Obviously, there are a few other approved agents there, but they like the profile and, you know, see it as being used in the relapsed setting. you know, exactly where and in what order it still remains to be seen, and we're talking to physicians about that. But certainly in the approved indications, they think it's a very appropriate option, and that's what we continue to talk to physicians about.

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Matt Kaplan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, that's helpful. And, Mike, you went into some detail in terms of the current BTK inhibitors on the market, and you mentioned some data that was presented at ASH for 1701. What are you seeing so far in terms of the tolerability profile for 1701 that you think differentiates it from current BTK inhibitors available?

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so, you know, it is early data. But when you look across, you know, what I call the AESM interest for BTK inhibitors, they're remarkably low. with 1701 at the 200 milligram dose level thus far. Obviously, we need probably some more duration on there, but I think as a start, it looks quite good. To my knowledge, no patients have come off the drug for any drug-related toxicities. The bleeding and bruising risk is quite low thus far. I think we're in close to the 15% range versus 50% for the established agents. Again, I think the profile will emerge, and like I said, I do encourage folks to take a look. But right now, it's looking quite good, and we'll update that data as we get more. So I think there's an emerging profile with activity potentially as good, if not better, than what's out there, plus a safety profile that's looking quite attractive.

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Matt Kaplan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Okay, thanks. And last question. Don't want to leave Sean out. You mentioned that there were about 21 million in milestone payments in 2020. What are your anticipated milestone payments for 2021 that you see on the radar?

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Sean Power
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks for including me, Matt. Appreciate it. So we will obviously have... some milestones associated with the approval of umbilicib in the first quarter here, and potentially some associated with the approval of ubituximab later in the year. So we haven't fully disclosed what those look like, but qualitatively I would say in line with 2020. Great.

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Matt Kaplan
Analyst at Ladenburg Thalmann

Congrats on the progress, guys, and thanks for taking questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks, Matt. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. One moment, please, while we poll for more questions. Your next question comes from the line of Mayank Mamthani with B. Riley Security. Please proceed with your question.

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Mayank Mamthani
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Hi, good morning, Dean. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. So, Adam, on the MTCM category, which category have you been granted for umbrella SHIB? And then, you know, just taking a step back on the follicular label, you know, as you think about the risk-benefit assessment that, you know, FDA may have had that led to a little narrower label, How is that kind of different in the community? Like, are they kind of strictly abiding to the label? Or do you think, you know, just on the efficacy side, maybe less, but on the tolerability profile, maybe more superior? How do you think about the risk-benefit relative to what regulators may have looked at?

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Yeah, Mike, thank you. Great question. And yes, so the first part is the NCCN category. It's a category 2A in both follicular and marginal zone. And it is largely to the label. So it's a category 2A to answer your question. And then as far as the risk-benefit profile, I mean, I think right now what we're hearing is physicians see this as a as a very effective and very well tolerated option for their patients in indolent lymphoma. And I think they see it as a really compelling option in both diseases. You know, as I mentioned, it's distinct from what they've seen from other PI3K inhibitors or what they would expect. The lack of the black box warning does pop up as something that's differentiating. And so I think they see a very good risk-benefit profile that fits very well into the treatment paradigm for these specific patients.

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Mayank Mamthani
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Great. And then switching to MS, have you guys done any – I know you guys are still processing the data, and it's a lot of volume, but – We are starting to see numbers emerge for Ocrevus and Kissanthi also on the number-negative treat. Do you have any early kind of qualitative perspective on what the number-negative treat could be for Oblutuximab from the MS data that you have?

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

Sorry, Mike, I didn't hear the – Mike, I don't know if you heard the question. I can't hear it.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think it's probably too early to say, Mayank. I think we're, yeah, I think the question, Adam, was, you know, we've seen some of the Cosimpton numbers, and I think you're asking, Mayank, what we see as projections for numbers of patients that we could expect to see on Ubutaximab?

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Mayank Mamthani
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Actually, sorry, the number needed to treat NMT for NMT across these different CD20s. I know there could be some analysis that you could do with the ARR rate you have reported and the relative risk reduction. Have you guys done that yet in comparing it to other CD20s? It's kind of important for reimbursement.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'm not aware that we did that yet, Adam. Has Jamie and her team looked at that at this point? Or maybe they're in the process of looking at that? No. Yeah, no, not yet.

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Adam Waldman
Chief Commercialization Officer

No, we're in the midst of doing that right now.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We'll keep you posted on that one, Mike.

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Mayank Mamthani
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Thank you. I believe one of these conferences could have some interesting analysis. And then, Mike, just a question on the earlier stage pipeline. Anything, any recent activity you've done on the IRAC for innovator? We've obviously not seen much about that in your recent pipeline updates, but anything you could provide there?

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so look, we're taking another look at that compound. Originally, we were concerned about the preclinical tox profile for the agent, but we have some new folks on board and we're in the process of looking at that right now and letting them evaluate it. We're doing some new, my understanding is we're going to do some new preclinical tests on the compound. Otherwise, it's It is near IND ready, so if the new team, including Dr. O'Connor, is taking a look at this right now with our other scientific folks on board. So they'll take a look with fresh eyes and some fresh data and make a determination of what they're thinking about with the compound. But it is reasonably close to IND ready, and if they feel comfortable moving forward, we can move it forward pretty quickly. Okay.

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Mayank Mamthani
Analyst at B. Riley Securities

Great. Thanks for taking my question, Tim. You got it.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. And I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Michael Weiss for closing remarks.

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Michael Weiss
Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thank you. And again, thanks everybody. So, I'd like to wrap up today's call once again, just reviewing the upcoming key goals and objectives. So at the top of the list, of course, is continue the execution of our commercialization of Uconic Umbrolizib in relapsed refractory module and follicular. We're going to work hard to complete the rolling biologics license application, the BLA submission of Lubutuximab in combination with Umbrolizib for the treatment of patients with CLO. That will be including both previously untreated, so treatment naive, and patients with a relaxed refractory So, we will be seeking a very simple label of the treatment of CLL with that application. We plan to present final results from the ultimate one and two phase three trials evaluating tuximab and RMS. And associated with that, we look forward to submitting a BLA for OOBLI in RMS targeted for the middle of this year. We're going to continue to advance our early pipeline candidates. 1501, 1701, 1801, and then, of course, we're looking at some of those preclinical compounds that were mentioned in the Q&A. And later in the year, we plan to present updated data from U2 plus monoclox. We've got our TG1701 BTK inhibitor that we're presenting some more data on during the course of the year. And, you know, hopefully, again, by year end, we'll potentially have our first data available on our AG1801, which is our CD47, CD19 bispecific antibody. So it could shape up to be an exciting year, both from the commercial launch perspective, but also from new registration filings, potential approvals, as well as follow-up compounds coming through the pipeline. So on behalf of all of us at TG, I'd like to thank our investigators and their patients, of course, who participate in our trials and trust us. as well as our employees and shareholders for their continued support. Thanks again, everyone, for joining us, and have a great day.

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Operator
Conference Operator

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