TrustCo Bank Corp NY

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

7/25/2023

spk00: Good day and welcome to Trust Code Get Bankrupt Earnings call and broadcast. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal your commerce specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero on your keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one. To draw your questions, you may press star and two. Before proceeding, we would like to mention that this presentation may contain forward-looking information about Trust Code Bancroft, New York. It is intended to be covered by the Safe Harbor for forward-looking statements provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results, performance, or achievements could differ materially from those expressed in or implied by such statements due to various risks, uncertainties, and other factors. More detailed information about this and other risk factors can be found in our press release that preceded this call and in the risk factors and forward-looking statements session of our annual report on Form 10-K and as updated by our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The forward-looking statements made on this call are valid only as of the date hereof, and the company disclaims any obligation to update this information to reflect events or developments after the date of this call, except as may be required by applicable law. During today's call, we will discuss certain financial measures derived from our financial statements that are not determined in accordance with U.S. GAAP. The consideration of such long gap financial measures to the most comparable gap figures are included in our earnings press release, which is available under the investor relation tabs of our website at trustcobank.com. Please also note that today's event is being recorded. A replay of the call will be available for 30 days, and an audio webcast will be available for one year, as described in our earnings press release. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Robert J. McCormick, Chairman, President, and CEO. Please go ahead.
spk03: Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining the call. I'm Rob McCormick, the President of Trustco Bank. With me, as usual, are Mike Ozemek and Scott Salvador. We'll follow our regular format for the call. I will provide highlights. Mike Garcia-Paul will provide a detailed review of the numbers, and Scott will cover the loan portfolio, leaving time for questions at the end. Our industry as a whole and specifically the regional banking sector has faced many challenges so far this year. The numbers we are reporting today, however, are very strong, building on the results from the first quarter and reinforcing our long-term profitability. Net income was roughly $16.4 million for the quarter. This is slightly down, but still a very solid number. It's also worth mentioning that it follows several record quarters. Our loan growth was 7.5% during the quarter compared to the same time last year. with our residential, commercial, and home equity credit lines all steadily increasing to set a new record high in the loan portfolio of 4.9 billion. We continue to demonstrate stability with our deposit portfolio, which is up 66 million, or about 1.25% from the beginning of the year, and up 46 million since the first quarter of 23. Reflected the current interest rate environment, our time deposits are up 162.7 million, almost 13% for the quarter. We recognize this current shift toward time deposits and are proud of our team for strengthening relationships across our customer base. Instead of fleeing to non-bank investment products, we've seen our customers remain loyal and continue to enhance their relationships with us. Our strategy of maintaining a very healthy and liquid balance sheet during the historically aggressive rising interest rate environment is bearing fruit. The ability to maintain flexibility on pricing deposits to provide the maximum benefit to our shareholders. coupled with consistent loan growth and cultivating our customer base to grow deposits has helped keep our net interest income steady, which was 44.1 million for the second quarter, a 2.3% increase over the second quarter in 22. Our net interest margin was 2.98%, which is up from the same quarter last year. Asset quality remains strong and our loan loss reserves are consistent over last year. Our allowance for credit loss on loans to total loans was 0.96%, essentially flat from 1% this time last year. We saw another quarter in net recoveries, marking the sixth consecutive quarter for this. Our ROE and ROE were 1.09 and 10.61% respectively for the second quarter of 23. We are pleased to report our book value has increased to $32.66 a share, up a solid 5.2% from the second quarter of 22. Capital levels continue to remain strong, standing at 10.23% in the second quarter, up over 7% from the 9.54% this time last year. Now, Mike will give us a lot of detail on the numbers. Scott will give color on the loan portfolio. Then we can take your questions. Mike.
spk05: Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. I will now review Trusco's financial results for the second quarter of 2023. As we noted in the press release, the company saw a second quarter net income of $16.4 million. which yielded a return on average assets and average equity of 1.09% and 10.61% respectively. Capital remained strong. Consolidated equity to assets ratio is 10.23% for the second quarter of 23 compared to 9.55% in the second quarter of 22. Book value per share in June 30, 2023 was $32.66, up 5.2% compared to 31.06 a year earlier. Average loans for the quarter grew to 7.5% or $336 million to 4.8 billion from the second quarter of 2022. Loan growth was exceptional and occurred in all of our loan categories and leading the charge was the residential real estate portfolio, which increased 220 million or 5.4% in the second quarter of 23 over the same period in 22. Average commercial loans increased 50.1 million or 25.2% Home equity lines of credit increased 59.5 million or 24.4%, and installment loans increased 6.4 million or 6.8% over the same period in 2022. For the second quarter of 2023, the provision for credit losses was a benefit of $500,000. We have now been actively retaining deposits now for two quarters in a row. Total deposits as of June 30, 2023 increased $46 million $5.26 billion from March 31, 2023. As we move forward, our objective is to continue to offer competitive product offerings of the bank through aggressive marketing and product differentiation. We understood the big inflows of deposits during the pandemic are temporary, and that's why we did not invest that liquidity into our securities or loans, but retained that liquidity on the balance sheet for when our depositors would start to absorb the funds. core customers. Net interest income was $44.1 million for the second quarter of 23, an increase of $992 million, or 2.3% compared to the same period in 22, driven by solid liquidity, loan growth, and the recent increases in the Fed funds target rate. The net interest margin for the second quarter of 23 was 2.98%, up 15 basis points from the second quarter of 22. The yield on interest-earning assets increased to 3.8%, up 90 basis points from 2.9 in the second quarter of 22. The cost of interest-bearing liabilities increased to 1.06% in the second quarter of 23 from 10 basis points in the second quarter of 22. Our financial services division continues to be a significant recurring source of non-interest income. They have approximately 940 million of assets under management as of June 30, 23. Now on to non-interest expense. Total non-interest expense, net of ORE expense, came in at $27.2 million, which is consistent with the prior quarter. Horary expense came in at an expense of $148,000 for the quarter as compared to an expense of $225,000 in the prior quarter. Given the continued low level of horary expenses, we're going to continue to hold the anticipated level of expense not to exceed $250,000. We would expect the 2023's total recurring non-interest expense net of ORE expense to remain in the range of $26.9 to $27.4 million per quarter. Now Scott will review the loan portfolio and non-performing loans.
spk04: Thanks, Mike, and good morning to everyone. The bank continues to enjoy strong loan growth for the second quarter. Overall loans increased by a combined $87 billion in actual numbers. This equates to an increase of 1.8% on the quarter. Year over year, the increase was 346 million, or 7.6%. We were very pleased with the loan growth posted for both the quarter and year over year. This growth occurred in all our regions and across all loan categories, and was achieved in a time of fast-changing interest rates and economic conditions. On the quarter, residential loans increased by 81 million, with both first mortgages and home equity products posting increases. Commercial loans increased by 5 million. This continues a trend of solid growth in all these categories. We continue to benefit on the quarter from the large amount of home construction loans we have in our backlog, which are now being completed and booked. More recent market activity on the purchase side has been a bit slower due to increased rates and the shortage of existing home inventories and . However, overall demand for homes remains good, and we continue to focus our efforts on capturing a larger piece of the current market. Additionally, loan payoffs have dropped significantly this year due to the extremely slow refinance market. Interest rates have stabilized a bit, and we currently stand at 6.5% on our base 30-year fixed rate. Our loan backlog is solid, although down somewhat from the first quarter, reflecting both our recent loan closings and the overall market conditions. Asset quality at the bank remains strong. Non-performing assets totaled $20.8 million as of June versus $19.4 million a year ago, and non-performing loans totaled $19.4 million versus $18.7 million last year. Non-performing loans now stand at 0.40% of total loans versus 0.41% a year ago. Early-stage delinquencies also continue to be solid, and charge us for the quarter amounted to a net recovery of $229,000. The coverage ratio or allowance for credit losses to non-performing loans stood at 242% in June, unchanged from a year ago.
spk03: Thanks, Scott. I'd be happy to answer any questions anybody has.
spk00: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on a touch-tone phone. If you're using speakerphone, please pick up your headset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed, you would like to withdraw your questions, please press star and then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our rooster. Thank you. This concludes our – we have our first question. It comes from Ian Lappe from Gabriel Funds. Ian, your line is now open.
spk02: Hi. Good morning. Congratulations on a solid quarter. Good morning. A couple questions. On the residential mortgage loan portfolio, what is the average maturity? I know the K shows that $3.6 billion is more than 15 years. But do you have a number for sort of the whole thing?
spk05: Our average life is somewhere in that eight to nine-year range. We primarily do 30-year mortgages. So they're going to attend the final state of maturity is going to go further out. So that's going to be closer to that. At this point, probably 25-year life. Okay.
spk02: Okay. So what are you seeing now? I think you've said both this quarter and last quarter that obviously prepayments are really low. I mean, based on what you're seeing now, how much is that average life? How much is that your sort of expectation for the average life extended?
spk05: I mean, you know, if you come through from the pandemic when we, you know, prior pre-pandemic when we a lot of refinances, that used to be in maybe that seven-year average life, and that's probably extended into that eight- to nine-year average life. So it's extended a little bit in the recent years.
spk02: Okay. And then what percent of your mortgage holder or customers use another Trusco product, whether it's deposit or financial services or commercial loans?
spk03: We don't have a specific percent on that, but we have pretty good core customers, Ian, so I think that's relatively high. That's also a target of a lot of our sales efforts over the years. We pull many inquiries with regard to people who have a mortgage and no checking account or a checking account and no mortgage on the opposite side.
spk02: Okay. So for some of the really low... you know, the mortgages that you underwrote during the pandemic when rates were really low, would you consider, you know, selling some of those if you didn't have an associated product with the customer? I mean, is that an opportunity to sort of de-risk the mortgage? Just in terms of duration and interest rate risk in case rates, you know, take another big leg up from here.
spk03: We've certainly evaluated that in the past, Ian, and would certainly consider it in the future, but at this point, probably not. It just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for us at this point to contemplate that.
spk02: Yeah. Okay. And then on the last quarter, Rob, you mentioned... Ian, if I could just add a little color to that.
spk03: A side benefit of... If there is a side benefit to lower mortgage rates has been the increased home equity credit activity Right. If there is a side benefit to it, that's been it.
spk02: OK. And Rob, you mentioned last quarter one of the two big issues was staffing. Has that improved? And is there an opportunity potentially to improve the efficiency ratio? at least offset some of the pressure you're facing in them?
spk03: Yeah, as we enter August, Ian, it's kind of funny because if you'd asked me that question a week and a half ago or a week ago, I probably would have said, yes, it's greatly improved, but we seem to have a lot of resignations as we enter August, and I guess the tail end of summer, people trying to take advantage of it. But I think overall, yes, it has improved, and I would think absolutely
spk02: closed that helps us out significantly with compensation okay and then lastly on the financial services I know you mentioned 940 million in AUM but the fees were down both you know fairly significantly both sequentially and year-over-year and anything going on to drive that should we see a rebound in the second half of the year?
spk03: I guess that's the pitfall of a traditional trust department, Ian, and you guys can chime in here if you want, which we've historically run a very traditional trust department so that if you do have customers can pass and change. Plus, in the first quarter, we do take our tax preparation payments. So that drives the income down in the second quarter.
spk02: Okay. Okay, that's it.
spk03: We're actually rebranding that into more wealth management, Ian. So I think that will be very positive for us as well, trying to capitalize on our branch network, especially branches in the state of Florida and opportunities within the state of Florida.
spk02: Okay, good. Okay, that's it for me. Thanks. And, again, tough environment and solid performance.
spk00: Thank you, Ian. Again, as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star then 1. Our next question comes from Nick from NR Management. Nick, your line is now open.
spk01: Good morning, fellas. Good job in a tough environment. On the last call, You alluded to potential share repurchase, and I'm just wondering from where you stand now, is that something you'd still be interested in? And just if you can comment on the dividend, what you can see going forward here. And that's it. Thank you so much.
spk03: I mean, timing is everything, Nick, as you can imagine in the community bank sector, capital preservation and liquidity preservation. have been first and foremost on people's minds for 2023. And that's why we haven't activated our share repurchase program, even though the book value was very attractive to consider something like that. As we approach the balance of the year, I think you could see us become more active in that area. And the dividend is always under review. I can't make a forward-looking statement about what we'll do with the dividend, but we always have that under review. And you know we're completely committed to a large cash dividend for our shareholders, we realize it's a large part of their return, and we're constantly evaluating and looking at that position.
spk01: Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back to Robert J. McCormick for any closing remarks.
spk03: Thank you for your interest in our company and hope you have a great day.
spk00: Thank you. The conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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