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TechTarget, Inc.
11/12/2024
Good afternoon, thank you for attending today's tech target reports third quarter 2024 conference call and webcast my name is tamia and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad I would now like to pass the conference over to your host Charlie running general counsel, you may proceed.
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Great. Thank you, Charlie. We are encouraged to report modest year-over-year revenue growth for the second quarter in a row. We think it is clear that the worst of the downturn is behind us. We expect to continue to see similar revenue growth in Q4 and into the early part of 2025. We have several reasons to be optimistic, including a better interest rate environment, The certainty that comes with the election behind us and the expectation that there will be a new technology investment cycle around AI. We use our strong balance sheet to invest during the downturn to strengthen our leadership position. This strength will be increased with the proposed combination with Informa Tech's digital business. We expect this deal to close this quarter. I will now open the call to questions.
We will now begin the Q&A session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason at all you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, please press star one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. Our first question comes from Justin Patterson with KeyBank. You may proceed.
Thank you. Two, if I can. First, you've had a lot of product innovation this year. I'd love to hear just how customers are adopting some of these new products and what could be into the pipeline, the product pipeline for 2025. So that's the first question. And then secondly, Greg, I just wanted to come back to that point you talked about. There's going to be an AI investment cycle here. I know it's something we're all trying to work through the pace of. When you look at page views on your site, content being consumed, any signs that we're now closer to seeing some of that monetization come in? Thanks so much.
Great. Justin, this is Mike. In terms of the product innovation, we've been very aggressive in terms of the product innovation and what we're trying to build for the overall platform that we're bringing to the market. And at the end of Q2, we introduced one of the products, which is our account and 10 feeds. which is a subscription offering, and it's a module of the Priority Engine, but it's very focused on account-only first-party intent signals. And that was really important for us because if you know us historically, we are focused on prospect-level intelligence for sales activation and for marketing automation to reach individuals. At the account level, our customers have come to us and said they are craving for first-party account-specific intent feeds to help fuel different go-to-market strategies. For example, they look at account-level targeting for customers. They look at creating ABM lists. They look at account prioritization based on first-party insights, programmatic advertising, and account insights for sellers. So it's really important that we can provide our intent at the account level into our customers' workflows. We announced as part of that a partnership with Sixth Sense's revenue AI platform. So think about Sixth Sense and the platform helping customers have access to account insight feeds. But accounts don't get, vendors don't get access to the tech target intelligence unless they are a subscriber to our insights. So making sure that we have our account insights integrated seamlessly into the Sixth Sense platform, help our customers have a better experience, and to really help put that account intent insight into action around those use cases. The other launch that we did was Market Monitor, which is a real-time market dynamics data set to assist our clients in a lot of different areas. Think about content investments, marketing, and sales outreach. So what we're looking at are the types of accounts actively researched in a particular solution by industry or by vertical, the types of personas within those accounts. We're reporting on best performing content, what resonates, what doesn't resonate, as well as competitive insights, who's influencing or engaging within those accounts. And if you take a look at our product strategy, we're really focused on connecting the dots across all the different products that we have to offer, from content enablement and custom content strategy, so that we can help customers by identifying and providing them the insights on You need to invest in this type of content because this is what performs the best to go out and reach, engage, and influence buyers. That's going to help on our content strategy. All the way to brand, as I mentioned, content investment, all the way to putting the right assets in market for demand and intent that converts. So MarketMonitor was another release, and we're seeing success on that as well. The other product that we announced was our Priority Engine Demand. We've been talking about this throughout the year. Think about this as really tying a holistic approach and providing our customers insights on how all the products are doing and all the solutions that TechTarget is providing them. Each of our solutions is powered by permission-based and first-party intent insights. So we want to make sure that we're revolutionizing and evolving the demand gen strategy. And this, again, is a subscription-based offering where our customers will now have access to customized content ops. Not only will they have insights into that active, we'll call it, lead or prospect, but we will be able to deliver and provide insights into the buying groups and the buying teams within those accounts. We'll be leveraging our intent mail AI, which we launched early in the year, that was focused on prospect level to find group levels so we can scale and make sure that our customers are in the best position to reach and scale with efficiency and efficacy to the right buying groups. And it was part of that whole investment strategy to provide real-time analytics to show our customers how their content's doing, how their demand's doing, how ultimately their brand is doing, and tie it all together in a holistic view. These are really important investments as we get ready for the close and then the launch of a new company heading into 2025. So we've been pretty aggressive on that, and we're really happy where we stand on that. In terms of the AI investment cycle, what we see with customers is they're spending a lot of money in their research and development. A lot of the R&D is around AI enhancements to existing products as well as new products that they will launch. And the point of that is there'll come a point when that AI, those R&D investments, have to generate an ROI in terms of revenue growth and market penetration and market share. And as the recovery continues and we get through that R&D investment, you'll see, we expect to see, customers really feel growth around sales and marketing efforts and being able to clearly identify the value that their solutions are bringing versus the noise that's in the market. And what better place to do that is around an organization that actually covers this market pretty deeply, and technology buying teams and buying groups and organizations leverage on the data, the insight, the handles reports, and our editorial strength.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from Joshua Riley with Needham. You may proceed.
Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just starting off on the macro. I guess you guys have been running this business for a long time and have seen a lot of cycles. I guess, are you seeing any trends in how this cycle has developed relative to past cycles that can kind of give you confidence that spending will improve in a more material way next year? kind of in line with your commentary from the shareholder letter?
Yeah, that's a good question. So, John, I'd say we've been in a two-year depressed technology cycle. And we've seen that. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when the debt will rebound. And I'll say, if you take a look at our target throughout 2024, if you look at our Q1 results, which we, you know, our expectations were we'd be down high single digits. relatively flat year over year, but we're up 1% in Q2, and then we saw 2% growth in Q3. And we're still seeing those, you know, we expect to see very similar trends, consistent trends with Q3 as we go into Q4 and into, you know, the first half of 2025. If you've taken a look at a lot of the other, you know, some of the companies that have reported actually saw a double-digit decline in the first half. You're seeing less of a decline in the second half. We feel like we're navigating a little bit better than a lot of our competition. But what I also look at is some of the things that we've talked about in these downturns, you're seeing a lot at the end of the tunnel. For example, we've seen two interest rate cuts. That always bodes well for the future for the technology market. We saw a presidential election, which we didn't know how that was going to go or if it was going to get contested. It seems like it's come and gone, and we're moving forward on that. So there are some signs out there that really will benefit, and we believe, the technology market and what we've seen historically in the long term. So I'd say in the short term, though, we'd like to see the consistent, you know, go from decline to growth, two consecutive quarters in growth, and being able to say we have a pattern now of seeing year-over-year growth at modest, low to mid-single-digit numbers. That's what gives us confidence in the long term. Our focus right now is to close this combination with Informatech. We announced the Informatech digital assets. We announced a special meeting date on November 26. We expect it to close shortly thereafter. And then our focus will be executing on the business, making sure that we have the integration done in a timely manner, and really navigate through the next couple of quarters and look at capturing the upside when the market does recover and when all these impacts come into play or these changes. And that's what we're really focused on right now.
Kyle Magyera- got it that's super helpful maybe just following up on that you know, in the last cycle, a major contributor of your growth was. Kyle Magyera- You know pretty big increase in the SMB customer account and then obviously we know they pulled back quite a bit, particularly when the Silicon Valley bank crisis hit in this next cycle coming next year. Kyle Magyera- Do you think that these SMB customers will come back or do you think that the growth will be driven more by the enterprise and. larger customer cohorts. Thanks.
Yeah, no problem. I think the first level of growth is going to be with our, you know, increased product and capability set at the large enterprises for teaching accounts. We now have an ability to go wider and deeper. When you take a look at what we have to offer on our own product, you know, roadmap and what we're watching, that's been really important for us to get ready for 2025. But when you take a look at the assets coming into TechTarget and combining with TechTarget, and you talk about industry dive and being able to get into the vertical markets, and you talk about the intelligence and advisory arm of Antia, and you look at, you know, IT, media markets, and brands, as well as the netline engine, we have a really good opportunity to land and expand within our existing accounts. And there will be a focus on that on the strategic accounts and the enterprise accounts, as well as getting into those verticals. I would say that you nailed it. I mean, if you take a look at even Gartner's most recent information that came out, it talked about some of the smaller tech companies that are really challenged with cost and really challenged managing their expenses and don't have access to finance and a capital that's really beneficial for them like it was, or favorable, I should say, like it was a few years ago. They may continue to be challenged a little bit, but we still see some opportunities for us in terms of, because of the depth and breadth of our product offerings, to be able to do a good job with those smaller accounts. But I would say the number one place where we're going to be able to grow and land and expand is on the enterprise and those strategic accounts.
Got it. Thanks, guys, and good luck with closing the deal. Thank you.
Thank you. As a quick reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. The following comes from Jason Cryer with Craig Hallam. You may proceed.
Great, thank you. This is Cal for Jason. So first question from us, can you just discuss how the pre-merger planning has gone so far and how do you feel like your position should the merger eventually go through here?
Yeah, so Cal, we've been working on this since the beginning of the year when we announced it in January 10th. We've worked together closely with the informant tech digital business units, working closely with Gary, with the business leaders, to really understand the operating model, how do we best set the new organization, set it up for success, the teams get along well, the operating model and the organizational structure, I would say it's been going very, very well across the board. I think everybody sees the opportunity and understands the opportunity that these two organizations coming together can really play in the long term as well as getting off the ground in the short term. We're focused on, you know, day one planning. We're going to day 180 planning all the way to day 365. I think the teams are a large step on this, and I would say that the planning and the pre-merger planning has gone well. I think that's your second question on that.
I think that was it for that one. But, you know, the second question that I just had here, you know, just kind of wanted to ask on the competitive environment, you know, You kind of talked about leaning on the balance sheet here, keeping your investments progressing. So, you know, how do you see those investments really differentiating yourself versus your competitors who may have had to pull back here during the down cycle?
I think companies like, you know, a lot of our competitors are private companies that we stay in touch with, and we also have some public companies. But we've built 25 years of a strong financial profile organization with a strong balance sheet. And we've always had in any downturn, be optimistic, always be careful on how you invest and understand how you invest, but be opportunistic because in a downturn, we have an opportunity to take market share and really put ourselves in the best position to capture the upside during when the recovery comes. And even when without a recovery, the investments that we make around our products, around our content and around our audiences, I believe, put us in a competitive advantage. There are not a lot of organizations that I will call own and operate the sites and communities that have access to permission-based audiences as well as first-party intent. And to me, that's the most accurate and most effective way to help sales and marketing when they're ready to invest in their growth capabilities for driving revenue and market share. So those investments are really important for us. We take a You have we understand we have 90 day quarters, but we take a look at the one to two to three years, and if we invest X on this because we think we can do it with our balance sheet. This will generate Y and Z in terms of return, so I think we're in an enviable position on that, because the model that we built over 25 years. we're very disciplined and we're effective when we make those investments in the right areas.
Perfect. Thank you. And I will echo good luck here closing the merger. Thank you.
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