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Ulta Beauty, Inc.
12/5/2024
Good afternoon and welcome to Ulta Beauty's conference call to discuss results for the Ulta Beauty third quarter 2024 earnings results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and then re-enter the queue for any additional questions. If you should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Ms. Kylie Rollins, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Rollins, you may proceed.
Thank you, Julian. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for a discussion of Ulta Beauty's results for the third quarter of fiscal 2024. Hosting our call today are Dave Kimball, Chief Executive Officer, and Paula Olivo, Chief Financial Officer. Keisha Steelman, President and Chief Operating Officer, will join us for the Q&A session. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you of the company's safe harbor language. Many of our remarks today will contain forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today, December 5, 2024. We refer you to our earnings release and SEC filings, where you will find a number of factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. We'll begin this afternoon with prepared remarks from Dave and Paula. Following our prepared comments, we'll open the call for questions. As always, the IR team will be available for any follow-up questions after the call. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Dave. Dave?
Thank you, Kylie, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate your interest in Ulta Beauty. Our team delivered improved performance for this quarter with better than expected sales and profitability. For the quarter, net sales increased 1.7% to $2.5 billion, and comparable sales increased 0.6%. Diluted EPS increased 1.4% to $5.14 per share. As we shared on our last call, we are navigating a number of headwinds, including the normalization of the U.S. beauty category, a dynamic consumer environment, and elevated competition, particularly in prestige beauty. we are starting to see benefit from actions we are taking to reinforce our market position and improve our performance. And while the headwinds have not abated, we are making progress. In the third quarter, our prestige market share trends improved, resulting in flat market share this quarter based on Circana data for the 13 weeks into November 2nd, 2024. The trend was driven primarily by improvements in makeup and hair, and we continue to see strength in fragrance and skincare. Our share performance in mass beauty was consistent with the second quarter. Comp growth improved from the second quarter trend, driven by stronger transaction trends across both stores and e-commerce channels. We continue to expand our loyalty program, ending the quarter with 44.4 million active members, 5% more than last year. We continued to convert new members, we reactivated more lapsed members, and we improved existing member retention. Our marketing strategies to support our tentpole events and drive relevance and buzz delivered double-digit growth in earned media value and stronger sentiment. And we made progress to optimize our new ERP system and help our teams adapt to new processes, balance inventories across the network, and deliver a better guest experience. Our teams are working hard to strengthen our market position, and I want to thank all of our associates for continuing to deliver great guest experiences while working collaboratively to drive improved performance in a dynamic operating environment. Turning to performance by category, fragrance was our strongest category, delivering high single-digit comp growth driven by men's fragrance, gender-neutral fragrances, and new products, including new fall and holiday gift sets. The growth of men's fragrance was fueled primarily by newness from Armani and YSL and the appeal of established franchises from Jean-Paul Gaultier and Volatino. Consumer interest in gender-neutral scents is increasing, and our assortment, including Billie Eilish and Noise, an exclusive fragrance launched this summer, is driving guest engagement. New women's brands, Kylie Jenner and Oribella, both exclusive to Ulta Beauty, and new women's fragrances from Valentino, YSL, and Nest also contributed to overall category growth. The skincare category delivered mid-single-digit comp growth this quarter as strong growth in body care was partially offset by a decline in prestige skincare. Mass skincare was flat. The strong performance of body care was driven in large part by newer brand Sol de Janeiro, which continues to engage guests with exciting innovation and exclusivity, and Touchland, which introduced compelling newness. In prestige skincare, newness from brands Ole Hendrickson, Chasseux, Dime Beauty, and others resonated with guests, while engagement from Naturium, Bubble, and La Roche-Posay delivered growth in the mass skincare category. Comp sales in the makeup category decreased in the low single-digit range, driven primarily by softness and mass makeup. Strong growth from recently relaunched Ulta Beauty Collection was offset by certain brands lapping space expansion, strong innovation, or social media engagement last year. Prestige makeup was flat. New prestige brands Charlotte Tilbury, Ilia Beauty, and Dibs Beauty resonated with guests in compelling product newness Combined with in-store investments delivered growth for established brands, MAC and Clinique. Promotional events during the quarter, including 21 Days of Beauty and Fall Haul performed well, driving growth for several makeup brands, while our engaging Wicked collaboration was well received, highlighted by exclusive brand REM Beauty. Comp sales for the hair care category also decreased in the low single digit range. Exciting newness from Matrix, Way, Divi, and Odell delivered growth for the category, while Redken continued to drive healthy guest engagement with their hero product lines. In hair tools, new products from Shark Beauty and Dyson resonated with guests. This growth was offset by softness in key brands with expanded distribution and limited newness this year. Our services business delivered low single-digit comp growth, primarily driven by engagement in core services, including color, styling, and hair treatments. Ear piercing and makeup services also performed well. And our salon back bar takeovers, which get stylists an opportunity to introduce brands to guests, continued to drive product attachment and new guest acquisition for participating brands. We are seeing improvements in our business and we are focused on strengthening our market position and performance further. In October, we shared our refreshed strategic framework designed to lean into our existing strengths while also driving innovation to meet the evolving needs of beauty enthusiasts. As the beauty destination of a lifetime, we intend to drive profitable growth and market share leadership in beauty and wellness over the longer term through curating the best of all things beauty and wellness for all beauty enthusiasts, fostering authentic, empowering human connections that inspire, delight, and engage at every touchpoint, engaging our guests wherever they want to shop by expanding our reach through seamless and immersive omnichannel experiences, and building lifelong loyalty and brand love through member growth and personalization. We are confident our focus on these foundational areas will drive stronger revenue and earnings growth over the long term. In the near term, we are addressing key areas to reinforce our competitive position. Let me share some highlights of the progress made this quarter, starting with our efforts to strengthen our assortment. We are enhancing our brand portfolio to drive category growth. During the third quarter, we launched new makeup brands, Ilia Beauty, Dibs Beauty, and RMS Beauty, as well as emerging skincare brand, Oak Essentials. Additionally, we expanded our wellness offerings with emerging brands, The Honey Pot and Joy Locks. Looking ahead, we have an exciting pipeline of brand launches planned for the fourth quarter, including the recently announced prestige skincare brand, Tatcha, celebrated for balancing timeless Japanese botanicals with proven clinical ingredients. XO Chloe, an exclusive fragrance brand created by Khloe Kardashian, and Apothecary, an emerging wellness brand. In addition to new brands, we launched two exciting exclusive collaborations this quarter. First, as the exclusive beauty retail partner with NBC Universal Pictures for the movie Wicked, we worked with key brands to develop a limited edition collection of products across multiple price points and categories. The Wicked-inspired collection features products from leading brands including REM Beauty by Ariana Grande and Beekman 1802, both of which are exclusive to Ulta Beauty, as well as OPI and Skunchy, among others. With immersive in-store experiences and engaging displays, Wicked came to life in Ulta Beauty stores, through our digital channels, and through Ulta Beauty at Target. Second, we launched an exclusive and a disruptive beauty offering of the beloved Mini Brands, which offers miniature versions of popular consumer brands. This first-ever beauty mini-brands collection includes 68 tiny replicas of best-selling products from 13 brands, including e.l.f., NYX, Drybar, and Supergroup. Both of these unique collaborations are driving strong sales, awareness, traffic, and engagement, especially with Gen Z and millennial members. As we discussed at our recent Investor Day, engaging guest experiences drive differentiation, loyalty, and meaningful business value, and we are focused on creating authentic, personalized experiences across all our channels. In Q3, we hosted more than 13,000 in-store events, including unique celebrity and brand founder events, multi-branded events, and skincare-focused events. We also expanded our salon event, the workshop, to more stores and invited guests to learn how to create salon-worthy blowouts while receiving customized coaching and personalized recommendations from our talented in-store stylists. We are enhancing our digital experiences to drive traffic and sales. During the quarter, key online activations drove guest engagement, and our expanded sampling program delivered double-digit sales growth. Our digital merchandising strategies, including enhanced search, guided navigation, and enriched product pages drove conversion, and our site optimization efforts are improving the guest experience and delivering stronger conversion trends. Importantly, we continued to drive increased app adoption. In the third quarter, we saw double-digit growth in member engagement with the app, which accounted for about two-thirds of our e-commerce sales in Q3. up about 600 basis points from last year. We continue to introduce new digital experiences and resources to drive discovery and trial. This quarter we enhanced our suite of virtual try-on and AI enabled skin and hair analysis experiences with the launch of Glam Lab 2.0, which includes a new 3D engine to enhance precision and stability, shoppable makeup looks, and a new user interface that includes sharing capabilities. We also launched new digital buying guides that amplify search engine optimization while providing guests with educational content, beauty tips, and product recommendations. To deepen the meaningful connection we have with beauty enthusiasts, we launched UB Community, a welcoming, inclusive digital forum for guests to connect, learn, empower, and engage in the immersive world of beauty to foster authentic connections. Launched in October, our community amplifies the intersection of beauty, wellness, and joy, and our user count is already three times our initial target, confirming the meaningful role Ulta Beauty plays in our members' lives. With more than 44 million active members, Ulta Beauty Rewards is an unmatched strategic asset that provides us with unique consumer insights to drive sales. In Q3, we expanded personalization across digital channels with enhanced product recommendations, replenisher reminders, site experiences, and retargeted in social channels. Leaning into targeted lifecycle campaigns in both owned and paid channels, we reactivated members with greater efficiency. Additionally, we grew our Platinum and Diamond member base, leveraging unique incentives like exclusive and early access to key events and brand launches, gifting, and personalized offers that drive engagement. Platinum and Diamond members shop more frequently and spend more each visit and continue to retain at best-in-class rates. Increasingly, social relevance drives authentic customer connection and brand advocacy, especially in beauty, and we're evolving to position social at the center of our marketing strategies to accelerate browse and earned media value growth. During the third quarter, We leveraged our marketing and social capabilities to lean into emerging trends, amplify key growth brands, and activate new trend-focused events. We also engaged talent from our UB Collective, our affiliate program, and Ulta Beauties, our new associate ambassador program, as well as key brand founders to support key brand launches, exclusive collaborations, and tentpole events nationwide. in new and innovative ways across social channels to drive guest buzz and engagement. These efforts delivered accelerated EMV growth, increased impression, and expanded key brand health metrics. We continue to enhance our product capabilities to grow our retail media network, UV Media. We recently partnered with e-commerce tech company, Rocket, to introduce AI non-endemic ads for products and services outside the beauty category. And we are partnering with Roblox, the ultimate virtual universe, to create innovative advertising opportunities for our partners. Over the years, our Ultaverse has grown into one of the largest beauty games on Roblox, attracting over 11 million visits. With growing interest from beauty brands to participate in our Ultaverse, we're unlocking new possibilities at the intersection of gaming, innovation, and media, to bring those brands to life in exciting new ways through our UB media capabilities. Now leveraging lessons in the second quarter, we continue to evolve and tailor our promotional strategies to reiterate our value offering and drive sales and traffic. We began the quarter with a new hair event showcasing the glossy hair trend, replacing last year's Fall Gorgeous Hair Event, this event featured a strong promo offer, new and exclusive items from Dyson, and a spotlight on gloss and shine products. Especially strong in stores, the new event exceeded our expectations and drove strong results for participating brands. At the end of August, we brought back our beloved 21 Days of Beauty event. New beauty deals, member-only events, and bonus offers combined with robust marketing and social support 21 Days of Beauty delivered strong growth versus last year's event. We wrapped up the quarter with a successful Fall Haul event, which drove mass engagement and new member acquisition with compelling offers that surprised and delighted guests. In addition to strengthening and evolving our merchandising tentpole events, we optimized our loyalty offers, proactively planning the timing, type, and target audience of these offers. As a result, our promotional effectiveness improved from the first half trend. Shifting now to our plans and expectations for holiday. The formal holiday season is in full flight, and while we're encouraged by our performance through Cyber Monday, we have several significant holiday sales weeks still ahead. While consumers continue to spend, our insights suggest that economic concerns are driving a greater focus on value. With our diverse assortment of products and price points, compelling offers, and convenient Omden Channel touch points, we are well positioned to support our guests as they celebrate the season, and our teams are excited, engaged, and ready to help them deliver a joyful holiday. Our holiday campaign this year is Find Joy in the Present, a reminder of the joy that comes not only from gifts of beauty, but from the big and small moments that drive authentic emotional connections. With the goal of driving deeper emotional engagement, our campaign is supported with robust integrated activation across media, member marketing, PR, and social channels, as well as festive experiences in stores and on our digital platforms. We have strategies in place to fortify our competitive positioning and manage through the compressed holiday selling season. We are transforming our channels into a concierge for all things holidays. providing greater value to consumers with real-time beauty solutions, gift guides, and tips tailored to our guests' needs, and creating fun experiences that drive awareness and make Ulta Beauty the go-to destination for the holidays. Our merchandising team has created an exciting holiday assortment with a strong focus on newness and exclusives, balanced with value-driven holiday kits and core items that make great gifts. Whether guests want to gift others or treat themselves, we have thoughtfully curated options across every category and budget. Our corporate and supply chain teams have been working hard all year to ensure Ulta Beauty is ready to bring our guests joy this holiday season. And our store teams are ready to bring the holiday to life for our guests with new in-store events and demonstrations to build guest connection and drive sales and traffic. And with BOPUS, same-day delivery options, and new for this holiday, our participation in DoorDash and soon-to-be-launched Instacart marketplaces, it's never been easier or more convenient to shop at Ulta Beauty. With our engaging holiday messaging, incredible holiday assortment, knowledgeable associates ready to provide guidance and recommendations, new innovative digital tools, and multiple ways to shop, I am confident we are well positioned to deliver another successful holiday season. In summary, I am encouraged by the improving trends we are seeing in the business and optimistic about our holiday plans. We believe the beauty category will remain resilient, and we are confident the actions we are taking to deliver stronger performance, combined with our outstanding associates who are committed to offering guests authentic, inclusive experiences across all of our touchpoints, will enable us to reinforce our market position and drive long-term profitable growth. Now, before Paula discusses our financial results, I want to share that Monica Arnotto, Chief Merchandising Officer, has announced her plan to retire from Ulta Beauty in the spring of 2025. Since joining Ulta Beauty in 2017, Monica has built an outstanding team and elevated our assortment in ways that have helped us deliver remarkable sales and market share growth while furthering our mission to be our guest's most loved beauty destination. I want to thank Monica for everything she has contributed as a member of our executive team and for the impact she has had on our organization. While we work to identify Monica's successor, she is fully committed to supporting her team and Ulta Beauty with a successful transition. And now I will turn the call over to Paula for a discussion of the financial results. Paula?
Thanks, Dave. And good afternoon, everyone. I want to echo Dave's sentiments and congratulate Monica. Monica has been a trusted leader and steadfast ambassador of our brand, and we are so grateful for all of her contributions. Now turning to our financials, I'll begin with a discussion of our third quarter financial results. and then provide more color on our fourth quarter and full year expectations. For the third quarter, we delivered better than expected performance across the P&L, reflecting stronger top-line growth, continued financial discipline and expense management, and favorable strength trends. Net sales for the quarter increased 1.7%, sales contribution from new stores, and a 0.6% increase in comp sales, was partially offset by lower other revenue. During the quarter, we opened 28 new stores, closed two stores, and remodeled 27 stores. The comp sales increase was driven by a 0.5% increase in transactions and a 0.1% increase in average ticket. Other revenue declined $5 million to $48 million primarily due to an increase in deferred revenue related to our loyalty program. driven by the expansion of our member engagement efforts, which were partially offset and increased in income from our credit card program. Looking at the cadence of sales throughout the quarter, comp sales in August decreased slightly, primarily due to a shift in timing of our semiannual 21 Days of Beauty event, which resulted in stronger comp performance in September. October trends were positive but softened compared to the previous period. From a channel perspective, our e-commerce channel delivered mid-single-digit sales growth. The sales trend in cop stores improved from the second quarter, decreasing modestly compared to last year. For the quarter, gross margin decreased 20 basis points to 39.7% compared to 39.9% last year. The decline was primarily due to deleverage of fixed costs and lower other revenues. which was partially offset by favorable channel mix due to lower e-commerce shipping costs and lower shrink. Lower revenue growth resulted in deleverage of store and supply chain fixed costs. Additionally, more new store openings and the expansion of our supply chain network pressured these areas. As a percentage of sales, inventory shrink was lower than last year. Our investments in secure fragrance fixtures combined with new inventory management processes and enhanced training for our field teams are helping us control inventory shrink. Year to date, shrink as a percentage of sales is roughly flat with last year and we continue to expect shrink will be flat for the full year. Merchandise margin was flat with lower inventory reserves primarily related to the relaunch of Ulta Beauty Collection. offset by unfavorable brand mix. Moving to expenses, SG&A increased 3.2% to $682 million. Overall, SG&A's spend was better than planned again this quarter, primarily due to focused expense management. As a percentage of sales, SG&A increased 40 basis points to 27% compared to 26.6% last year. reflecting lower top line growth, most expenses deleveraged this quarter. In addition, SG&A deleveraged primarily due to higher store payroll and benefits, primarily due to higher average wage rates, and higher corporate overhead, primarily due to strategic investments. These pressures were partially offset by lower incentive compensation, reflecting operational performance that was below our internal target. Depreciation was 67 million for the quarter compared to 61 million last year, primarily due to new store and supply chain investments. Operating profit decreased 2.7% to 318.5 million. As a percentage of sales, operating margin was 12.6% of sales. compared to 13.1% of sales last year. And diluted gap earnings per share increased 1.4% to $5.14 compared to $5.07 last year. Moving to the balance sheet and our capital allocation priorities. We ended the quarter with $178 million in cash and cash equivalents and $200 million in short-term debt. Similar to third quarter last year, we drew on our revolving credit facility during the quarter to support working capital needs and ongoing capital allocation priorities, including share repurchases and capital expenditures. Total inventory increased 1.9% to 2.4 billion compared to 2.3 billion last year. The increase was primarily due to the impact of 63 net new stores. Year to date, through the third quarter, we generated $302 million in operating cash flow. Capital expenditures were $114 million for the quarter, primarily reflecting investments in new and existing floors, IT investments, and merchandise fixtures. In the third quarter, we returned $267 million of capital to our shareholders through the repurchase of 731,000 shares. At the end of the quarter, we had $2.9 billion remaining under our $3 billion share repurchase program we announced at our investor meeting in October. Now turning to our outlook. We have refined our sales and EPS guidance for fiscal 2024 to reflect our third quarter results while continuing to take a cautious view of the consumer and operating environment. We expect net sales for the year will be between $11.1 and $11.2 billion, with comp sales growth between negative one and flat. For the year, we continue to plan to open approximately 60 to 65 net new stores and remodel or relocate 40 to 45 stores. We expect operating margins will be between 12.9 and 13.1% of net sales. would be leveraged to come from both gross margin and SG&A, reflecting our top line expectations. Reflecting these assumptions, we now expect diluted EPS for the year will be between $23.20 and $23.75. With one quarter left in the year, I want to share how we are thinking about Q4. While we are encouraged by our third quarter results and our performance quarter to date, We also acknowledge that the fourth quarter will likely be impacted by a compressed holiday season, a dynamic operating environment, and continued uncertainty around underlying consumer demand. For Q4 modeling purposes, we expect comp sales will decline in the low single-digit range, and operating margin will be between 11.6% and 12.4%. One final update. We have updated our capital expenditures expectations for the full year and now expect to spend between 400 and 425 million in CapEx in fiscal 2024, including approximately 230 million for new stores, remodels, and merchandise fixtures, 130 million for supply chain and IT, and about 50 million for store maintenance and others. In closing, We know it will take time to see the full benefits from our efforts, but we remain confident that our go-to-market strategies and investments, along with continued operational and financial discipline, will enable us to drive stronger sales and value creation over the long term. And now, I'll turn the call back over to our operator to moderate the Q&A session.
Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Confirmation stone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. As a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and then re-enter the queue for any additional questions. One moment while we poll. Our first question comes from Simeon the Segal, BMO Capital Markets.
Thanks. Hey, everyone. Nice job. And if I forget later, I hope you and your families all have a nice holiday season. Dave, any further color you can share in how you're thinking about the broader competitive and promotional landscape over holiday? And then just Paula, could you quantify any of those gross margin pressure points this quarter, how you're thinking about the next quarter and beyond? And then just as any of today's progress and the full year guide lift impact your initial margin views you had given us in October. Thank you.
Great. Thanks, Simeon. And happy holidays to you as well. I'll start with just the broader competitive and promotional landscape, and Paula, you can pick up on some of the margin-specific areas. So for the third quarter, as I mentioned in the remarks, we continue to see this is an intensely competitive quarter. timeframe, and we've been managing and discussing that throughout the year. We feel like our actions, the adjustments we made in the third quarter helped us improve our performance, strengthen our performance, but we also recognize we have more work ahead of us. The dynamics in the marketplace continue, particularly in this prestige space, but we're seeing progress, and our unique proposition is The aspects it only delivers through our servant, our loyalty program, our points of presence, the experience we deliver, you know, have always been key to our business and continue to be core drivers. Promotionally, what we experienced in the third quarter was continued normalization, you know, after some changes. reduce promotion coming right out of COVID. So we anticipated that coming into Q3. Coming into this year, we saw that in Q3. Our promotional rates in Q3 were lower than Q2, but still somewhat higher than last year. But as I mentioned in the remarks, our efforts to adjust our promotional strategy to lean in and amplify our tentpole events, made our overall efforts more effective, leveraging our CRM program and our personalization efforts are driving the business. As we look into the holiday, it is obviously a very promotional timeframe, the most promotional timeframe. That's certainly true this year. And as we then navigate through and share our fourth quarter results, we'll have reflections on on the overall dynamics, but we're anticipating continued promotional intensity, but not significantly outside of what we would expect so far this holiday. Paula, do you want to talk about that?
Sure. Hi. Good afternoon, Senia. Yeah, so we raised our full year operating margin in EPS, reflecting Q3 performance and also ongoing expense discipline. What I would say as we think about kind of Q4, generally for the full year, we continue to expect gross margin deleverage. And when we think about Q4, reflecting the top line expectations in a competitive environment, gross margin will continue to deleverage. And really the trends we've seen all year will continue. So headwinds are the least deleverage we expect to see. From a fixed cost perspective, merchandise margin pressure will continue given promotions and category mix. And then our 12 wins, lower transportation costs, which we've been speaking about all year, will continue to provide some offsets to that. I would say from an SG&A perspective, we're expecting growth from a full year in the mid-single-digit range. But Q4, expecting that to be in the low single-digit growth range. We still expect most of our expenses to be leveraged on the lower sales, but we'll continue to maintain financial discipline as we have in Q3.
Great. Thank you so much.
Best of luck and happy holidays.
Oh, yeah.
Okay. Thank you.
No, sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, all good. Thank you, Samia. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Kelly Crago, Citi.
Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to see if you could provide a little bit more context on the Prestige makeup. I believe it was flat in the quarter. How was it for the industry overall? And if you could just talk about the innovation pipeline and prestige. I'm sorry if I said prestige beauty before. I'm talking about prestige makeup. If you could talk about the innovation pipeline there. And then just secondly, any way to kind of quantify the drag you've seen from the competitive pressures, you know, specifically with those new points of distribution and sort of where we're at in the timeline for when you expect those headwinds to abate further. Thanks.
Great. Well, thanks Kelly. Yeah. Let's see. Starting with, um, uh, prestige makeup, obviously an important category, our largest category. Uh, and I'd start with saying overall, um, you know, we're, we're, we're pleased in the third quarter that, uh, uh, prestige makeup was, um, was flat for the quarter for us, which was improvement from some of the trends. The drivers behind that are our innovation that we continue, uh, to launch brands like Ilya coming into our portfolio. strong execution across our key programs like 21 Days of Beauty which is focused on prestige and makeup of course is the highlight of that and real emphasis on some of our core brands like Clinique and Mac and other strong performing brands that we've been working closely with to ensure we're delivering for our guests and our guests respond well to them and so We've been focused on this category for a long time to strengthen its performance, and we're really pleased that we were able to do that. Overall in the category, we saw the category, the total prestige makeup category, a bit more than us in low single digit. So we saw pressure in share, although our share performance, while still pressured, improved from the second quarter. So we're making headway and we're pleased with that. Overall, on the competitive environment, you asked about competitive openings. As we've been talking about throughout the year, that's certainly a meaningful dynamic as there's been more than 1,000 new points of distribution in Prestige Beauty over the last couple of years. And that has been a pressure. I shared in previous webinars discussions that 80% of our stores have experienced at least one competitive opening and more than half have had multiple competitive openings. And that continues to be a dynamic that's going on in the marketplace. Having said that, we're confident in the actions that we're taking. We know we've seen historically new store openings. We're able to absorb the a shorter term hit, but then turn our stores back into positive contributors to our business over the long term. This is a different dynamic given the scale, just the sheer number of new stores opening in a short period of time. But we're confident in our ability to do that. We did see improvements in Q3. That contributed to the stronger performance we had in Q3 in total versus Q2. So we feel like we saw some headway in that. But we're still in the midst of it. And so by no means are we claiming that we're through it. We've got more work to do. We're working through the dynamics. And our focus there is continue to do what we do best, lean into our strengths, in our stores and online and all of our experiences, that activity, those things that I highlighted earlier are what helped us make progress this quarter and are the things that are going to drive us into 2025 as we continue to strengthen our business.
Thanks. Best of luck and happy holidays.
Happy holidays. Thank you. Our next question comes from Corinne Wolfmeyer, Piper Sandler.
Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the quarter. I'd like to touch a little bit on the competitiveness on the mass piece of business. I feel like we talk a lot about prestige, but I do want to understand mass. A lot of the broader mass or larger mass retailers have been talking a little bit more positively about beauty. You've got dollar stores expanding more in beauty. So how is this impacting the competitive landscape, would you say, for that piece of business? And how are you thinking about the mask piece going forward and heading into 2025. Thank you.
Well, yes. Thanks, Corrine. We'll start with saying that beauty is a very attractive category. And so we've talked many times about the fact that anybody in beauty, whether in the mask side, prestige side, luxury, is emphasizing the category, investing in the category, and that's been going on. across all of our competitors. In the mass-specific business, the total mass business continues to perform in that mid-single-digit range for the quarter in total mass, and it's an important category for us. As you know, one of the key differentiators of our businesses, strength in mass and prestige and luxury. And so we continue to be focused on our mass business and the important role that it plays. And so that we're well aware of the dynamics. We have seen mass makeup as a category, across the category decelerate. Certainly there's brands that are stronger, but the total category has been more pressure, but we're seeing continued strength in mass skin, which is an important business for us. So we're focused on continuing to drive our mass business and make sure we're delivering the assortment that we know our guests love, the ability to engage with us across all price points and continue to be confident in our ability to excite them and engage them in our mass business.
Okay, thank you.
And our next question comes from Anthony Chikumba, Loop Capital Market.
Thank you so much for taking my question. Hopefully you can hear me okay, and I'll just keep it to one question. Obviously you had a very impressive sequential improvement in your performance, and you've touched on a few different things. But if you had to sort of almost like kind of stack rank what you thought drove the better performance, You know, would it be the, you know, more effective promotions? Would it be some of the merchandising changes? Would it be, you know, some of the partnerships you talked about, like with Wicked and I guess the mini brands or whatever? Like, yeah, if you could just give us, help us to understand, you know, what from a sequential perspective led to the improvement performance. Thank you.
Great. Thanks, Anthony. Yeah. I, I mean, I, uh, I wouldn't point to once one, one thing, there was not one thing that, uh, ever really drives our business. Uh, and, uh, you know, we, we talked about coming out of the second quarter, um, you know, while, uh, you know, we were pleased with some aspects of our business, we were clear on areas that we needed to address and we leaned into several of the key factors. Assortment is always critical. Bringing in Nunes, some of the brands I highlighted, like Ilia, into the quarter played an important role. The collaborations that you mentioned also drove excitement and enthusiasm. Assortment is always a key driver and certainly was in the third quarter. Our promotional effectiveness, we had some learnings in the second quarter as we were faced with more pressure sales, how We adapted our promotional environment. We had learnings there that we built from into the third quarter, leaning in, strengthening our core 10 full events that our guests value from Ulta Beauty, 21 Days of Beauty, our hair event, and Fall Hall, as well as smart, purposeful, targeted, and effective complimentary promotions throughout the quarter in a very personalized. So that drove us. strong effectiveness. We worked hard throughout the quarter, our teams across the organization, store teams, for sure, supply chain, our IT teams, our digital teams, to make sure we were delivering a great experience to improve conversion. And we're pleased that we were able to do that both in store and strong performance online. And that took a holistic effort with making sure we had strong in-stock, strong engagement from our store associates, and strong execution online. And we also, last thing I'd mention is, you know, we highlighted in the second quarter some disruption from some of the system changes, and we made improvements in that space to make sure our products were where they needed to be. So multiple elements contributed. It was a really... holistic effort across the organization. And we're pleased. Having said that, you know, we know we've got more work to do. You know, while we're pleased with the sequential improvement, you know, we are focused on stronger improvement over time as we move both through the holiday period and into 2025 and beyond. So we'll continue to lean into all of those things and the broader strategies that we went through in a lot of detail at our investor day in October.
Very helpful. Thank you. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Christopher Horvitz, JP Morgan, Chase & Company.
Thanks. Good evening. So I'll throw a quick two-parter in there as well. So the first part is, are you positive quarter today? You mentioned encouraging. How do you think about the balance between the five fewer days, but at the same time, the very substantial gift card business and five fewer days would suggest, you know, a strong January follow through. And then following up on an earlier question, any further thoughts on how you think about 25? You talked about a floor of 11% long term, 12% plus. How did this quarter change that point of view, if at all? Thanks.
Hi, Chris. Hi, Chris. Thanks for the question. What I would say is, you know, we want us to thoroughly get into the details of specifically COMP quarter to date, but what I will say is that, you know, our holiday season is off to a solid start and our teams are executing well. We are encouraged by what we're seeing, but we also recognize that we have several important weeks ahead of us in the holiday season and operating environment is is dynamic. And so that is why we share that we're expecting Q4 comp sales to decline in the low single-digit range. So that's what we're thinking from a quarter perspective. And I would say, yeah, there is a component of the dynamic environment that is related to, you know, how consumers spend the fewer shopping days and things of that sort that we are obviously contemplating as we think about our expectations for Q4. As we think about, you know, 2025, again, still several important weeks left ahead of us, and we're focused on getting through holiday strong and closing out the fiscal year strong. And we will provide additional color on 2025 when we provide our guidance in March, consistent with what we typically do. Now, that being said, I would say the directional color that we provided at our investor day remains the same. You know, we expect 2024 and 2025 to be transitional periods as we to re-accelerate our growth, and we continue to expect to make investments in 2025 that will position us for a stronger long-term, but we will make decisions to ensure that we're delivering operating margin at least above 11%.
That's great. Thanks very much. Thank you. Our next question comes from Kate McShane, Goldman Sachs.
Hi, this is Emily Ghosh on for Kate. We were wondering on UB Media, how big of a competitive moat do you think it could be, especially considering what it does to help your relationship with vendor partners? And how much is UB Media contributing to the long-term operating margin outlook that you provided at the Investor Day?
Great. Thanks, Emily. Yeah, we think we're very... optimistic and excited about the role that AUB Media both is and will play on our business going forward. As you suggest, we have a real competitive opportunity because of the scale and the breadth of our business, the data that we have, the understanding of beauty engagement and transactions across really all beauty enthusiasts of all ages and all geographies is really unmatched. And so we've worked hard to deliver an experience for our brand partners that adds value, and most importantly, adds strong ROI in their media investments. And the growth that we've seen in that business reinforces that we're able to do that. As we did talk about it, our Investor Day continued investment in capabilities. I highlighted a couple of those capabilities today. on the call earlier today related to Roblox and other ways that we can further give our brands opportunities. But because of the brand relationships that we have and the role that we play in the category, we're confident that our opportunity to grow this business, continue to grow this business over time will be a positive impact on the business. Paula, do you want to talk about the financial impact?
Sure. What I would say is UV Media, Emily, is contributing positively to growth margin in a way. So think about it over time is that it plays an important role for us and it will help offset some of the merchandise margin pressure. We currently see and we have shared as we make certain investments in brand building and other things in 2025 and beyond that would serve to help offset some of those pressures.
Thank you. And our next question comes from Oliver Chen, TD Co.
Hi. Thanks, David and Keisha. On your thinking longer term, what will it take positive comp in terms of what categories perhaps you see as the biggest opportunities? And was the commentary on October being a bit softer? Was that surprising to you? It sounds like you may continue to expect to see a fair bit of volatility. And Keisha, on the health store sales, is it a mid-single digit to leverage occupancy? Anything we should know about that in terms of achieving fixed cost leverage based on the comp? Thank you.
Hi, Oliver. Let's see. So first on long-term growth, what's going to deliver positive comps? I'd I guess I would go back to what we talked about in detail at our investor day. We really see a combination of leaning in and reinforcing our established strengths as well as innovating across our entire ecosystem as key contributors to our performance. We talked about four key pillars or platforms, assortment, having the best assortment across beauty and wellness experience, delighting our guests in every touch point that we have access, continuing to expand our availability, both with stores, accelerated new store openings, as well as, uh, strong, uh, online, uh, expressions, uh, and then of course, loyalty and building brand love. Uh, you know, we're really, uh, you know, focused on, on driving innovation across, uh, across each of those. And, um, and making sure that we're, we're ready to, to, to do that. And, and what we, what, what I talked about in an earlier question that contributed to the third quarter, uh, improvement versus the second quarter, you know, it's the foundations, it's the fundamentals, it's the core things, Oliver, that you know about our business, having, uh, you know, tracked us for a long time, uh, when, when assortment is stronger and experience is right and our loyalty is working, uh, and, uh, and our, Touch points are thriving both in-store and online. You know, those are the things that will come together. So really all of it we just shared a couple months ago, those are the aspects that will drive our business going forward.
Yeah, and Oliver, this is Paula. Given you asked the question about October and whether or not we were surprised, what I would say is no. You know, as we thought, Dave mentioned, we talked about the timing and some of our tentpole events. And so that had a role to play in kind of the bi-period performance in Q3. And then I think you had a question about leverage points. I know, you know, we don't specifically disclose a specific point, but we've shared in the past one way to think about things is from a rent perspective, our rent expense is around 4%. As you think about comp and total growth, maybe think about it in that perspective.
Happy holidays. Thanks. Thanks, Oliver. Our next question comes from Christina Katai, Deutsche Bank.
Hi, good afternoon. Congrats on a nice quarter. So I just wanted to follow up on your early learnings from your market share reinforcing strategy. It obviously enables you to maintain flat market share in the third quarter, at least in Prestige. Where are you seeing some of the biggest gains in member engagement? I think, Dave, you talked about both Platinum and Diamond members are up in the program year over year. And then just as the competitive opening pressures abate, is it fair to say that maybe the worst is behind us? And is there a timeline for when you think maybe you could return to market share gains? Thank you.
Well, let's see. So on the where we've seen engagement, yeah, you highlighted an important part of our business, which is what we call our lead guests, our platinum and our diamond members and work. We're pleased that we continue to see strong performance from them, high engagement, high spend. They are obviously our best guests. But we're seeing that across the board, and it's something we've been focused on to continue to grow our business. Our loyalty program in total was up 5% for the quarter, and that was a combination of attracting new members. One of the things we talked about in October was – even though we've had a lot of growth in our loyalty program over time, we still see a lot of opportunity ahead and we're continuing to attract new members and bring them into our business and that, of course, is important fuel for future growth. We also had success reactivating LAPS members. A LAPS member is somebody that is part of the program but hasn't purchased with us at least once in the last 12 months and we have a very focused uh, CRM personalized program going after that group. And we continue to see success, uh, with that. And then our retention, um, is, is strong. You know, there is a, a, an intense competitive environment, but our guests continue to, uh, demonstrate that they, uh, like what Ulta is offering. And so retention remains healthy. And so those things come together. We're seeing it, uh, across, uh, all ages, all geographies, strength across, uh, all types of beauty enthusiasts, which is an important part of our business. Competitively, you asked about the dynamics there. And I continue to say something that we've shared in the past. It's difficult for us to exactly predict or lay out when we would see us completely moving through this because we've never experienced the scale of this in such a concentrated period of time. Having said that, I'll reiterate something I mentioned earlier, which is we have confidence. We've seen it in the data before. New store openings, our stores are able to recover and return to strong contributors. The data that we see now, stores that have not been impacted by competitive opening continue to perform better and positively, and we saw improved performance in Q3. But I would not take that fully as a, okay, We're 100% through it, and it's totally behind us. This is a meaningful disruption in the category. We're learning every period how the dynamics are evolving, but we did make progress in Q3, and so our focus continues to do that as we move into 2025. All right, so with that, thank you all. I will wrap up. Thank you for joining us today. So I want to close out by thanking our more than 55,000 Ulta Beauty associates working together in our stores, in our distribution centers, and across our entire corporate team. I sincerely appreciate their continued focus and commitment to delivering unique and memorable guest experiences across all our channels. So as we close, I want to wish you all a happy and healthy holiday season. There's still time to get out and shop at Ulta Beauty, so make sure you put that into your holiday shopping list. and we look forward to speaking to you again when we report results for fiscal 2024 on March 13th. Have a great evening. Thank you all.
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