7/26/2023

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Operator

Hello all and welcome to the Virtue Financial 2023 Quarterly Results Conference Call. My name is Harry and I'll be your operator today. If you would like to enter the key for questions, you may do so by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. It is now my pleasure to hand you over to Andrew Smith, Head of Investor Relations for Virtue Financial to begin. Andrew, please go ahead when you're ready.

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Harry

Thank you Harry and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us. Our second quarter results were released this morning and are available on our website. With us today on this morning's call, we have Mr. Douglas Sisu, our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Joseph Maluso, our Co-President and Co-Chief Operating Officer, Ms. Cindy Lee, our Deputy Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Sean Galvin, our Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with prepared remarks and then take your questions. First, a few reminders. Today's call may include forward-looking statements which represent Virtue's current beliefs regarding future events and are therefore subject to risks, assumptions, and uncertainties, which may be outside the company's control. Please note that our actual results and financial conditions may differ materially from what is included in these forward-looking statements. It is important to note that any forward-looking statements made on this call are based on information presently available to the company, and we do not undertake to update or revise any forward-looking statements as new information becomes available. We refer you to disclaimers in our press release and encourage you to review the description of risk factors contained in our annual report, Form 10-K, and other public violence. During today's call, in addition to GAAP measures, we may refer to certain non-GAAP measures, including adjusted net trading income, adjusted net income, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA margins. These non-GAAP measures should be considered as supplemental to, and not as superior to, financial measures as reported in accordance with GAAP. We direct listeners to consult the investor portion of our website, where you'll find additional supplemental information referred to on this call, as well as a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the equivalent GAAP term in the earnings materials, with an explanation of why it's we deem this information to be meaningful, as well as how management uses these measures. And with all that, I'd like to turn the call over to Doug.

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Harry

Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning. In my remarks today, I will focus on Virtu's second quarter 2023 financial and business performance and strategic initiatives. Following my remarks, Joe and Cindy will provide additional details on our performance. Looking at our year-to-date and second quarter results, which are summarized on slide two, of the supplemental material, we generated $4.5 million of adjusted trading net income per day in the quarter and normalized adjusted EPS of 37 cents. Slide three highlights that our market-making segment earned an average of $3.1 million per day of adjusted net trading income, outperforming the public market metrics for the quarter, and our execution services businesses delivered $1.4 million per day. In the second quarter, Our customer market making saw decreased opportunity as the overall bid offer spread and retail participation levels declined relative to the prior quarter. Although these factors led to decreased opportunity for our customer market making business, we performed in line with our own internal performance projections. As we've said previously, market making share alone is limited as a gauge of performance, but it's worth noting that our market share in the wholesale market making business remains within historic ranges. Our non-customer market-making business, which provides liquidity across asset classes globally, performed well in the quarter, although its opportunity was also impacted by the muted volumes and volatility environment. Our organic growth initiatives, including our expansion into options market-making, continue to perform well and make meaningful progress. We remain excited and optimistic about our growing abilities to address the global opportunities that await, especially in options ETF lock, and fixed income. On the execution services side, our adjusted net trading income averaged $1.4 million per day in the second quarter. Much like the last two quarters, institutional activity remained muted as our clients continued to look for more clarity from the macroeconomic environment. Most pronounced pan-European volumes were 16% lighter in the second quarter, with institutionally sized large and scale volumes down over 20%. Despite these challenging markets, VES performed in line with its opportunity quarter over quarter, as well as year to year. Our multi-year focus on efficiency and new business development has yielded a scale, multi-asset class global business that is laser focused on our clients. As I've mentioned in the past, we are particularly excited about the expansion to new asset classes. We're seeing increased uptake of our automation analytics, especially in fixed income markets, which continues to drive new opportunities for growth and enhances our current business. While the overall environment in the second quarter was softer, especially characterized by a very slow start in April, we were encouraged by improving performance in the latter part of the quarter. In these very early days of the third quarter, we are seeing some modest enhanced opportunity in particular in our customer market making business. While we are generally pleased with how we performed against the adjustable opportunities in the second quarter, and how we continue to deploy these new businesses, we continue to focus on ways to improve in any environment and seek out new opportunities. It is important to note that we continue to invest in recruiting talent in any market environment. While Virtu's headcount has remained relatively stable after years of ups and downs due to integration, the steady headcount total matched the significant investments that we have made in people and talent in strategic areas of focus. Since January 2021, we have hired almost 300 full-time employees, including quants and developers in options, ETF blocks, fixed income, our at-the-money market business, and other growth areas. We have also invested in hiring the right team of client-facing folks to continue to grow our VES business. Most recently, we hired Keith Casuccio, a respected industry veteran, to lead client engagement and product efforts within VES. As always, we remain relentlessly focused on cost and realized a 44% adjusted EBITDA margin during the period. Coming off a record 2023, our options business has performed well against declining opportunities set in the corner. We continue to expand across venues and geographies. However, in the U.S., market-wide customer index options volumes were down 11% in Q2, impacting results in the quarter. We've continued to build out our block ETF desk by improving our competitive edge and expanding our offering to cover more products in more regions, including fixed income, both in credit and rates. The operating scale we enjoy from our standardized global technology platform allows multi-tool players to immediately contribute to the growing business in any region or asset class as we reallocate personnel to focus on the biggest opportunities. However, this quarter we're slower in ETF lock, as you may have seen from other announcements from our competitors recently. I will now turn it over to Joe, who will provide additional details about the quarter. Joseph?

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Andrew

Okay, quickly turning to expenses and capital, we focus on cash op-ex. We ended the first half of the year with cash operating expenses that were $322 million, about 3% ahead of where we ended the full year 2022 annualized. We continue to manage expenses aggressively, especially in the soft environment and inflationary times. Our cash comp ratio is at 25% for the first half of the year, which is at the upper end of a historical range. So consistent with Virtue's history, we will manage the discretionary compensation and headcount to drive profitability for our shareholders while retaining and recruiting world-class talent, as Doug mentioned. So other expenses were up slightly in line with our expectations. Communications and data processing expenses were essentially flat versus the prior year and up 2% year over year, owing to some investment in building out new businesses in the global inflationary environment. And other expenses on an annualized basis are up a bit due to some favorable FX adjustments in the prior year and some increased professional fees. In terms of guidance for 2023 we would expect our cash operating expenses to come in on an annualized basis equal to the first half of 2023 on capital and debt you can see our trading capital remained relatively constant throughout the year on slide six of the supplemental material we've maintained our public 96 cent annual dividend which we have now paid steadily since we've been public for eight years And you can see there that our payout has remained steady despite our variable results over the long term. This consistency demonstrates our commitment to returning capital to shareholders and our ability to generate robust results over the long term. In addition, we repurchased 2.3 million shares this quarter for approximately $42 million. Our period end share count is now 167.9 million shares, and we have repurchased net of compensation-related new issuances almost 15% of our company in the two-plus years since beginning our share repurchase program. Since the inception of our share repurchase program, we have repurchased a total of 38.5 million shares for a little over a billion dollars. Again, please refer to the outcomes at various performance levels on slide eight to see that our year-to-date share repurchases of 118 million are ahead of the guidance on an annualized basis. And with that, I will turn it over to Cindy Lee to review the financial details before we turn over the call to questions.

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Virtue

Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone. On slide three of our supplemental materials, we're provided a summary of our quarterly performance. For the second quarter of 2023, our adjusted net trading income, or ANTI, which represents our trading gain net of direct trading expenses, totaled $279 million. or 4.5 million dollars per day. Market making adjusted net trading income was 193 million dollars or 3.1 million dollars per day. Execution services adjusted net trading income was 85 million dollars or 1.4 million dollars per day. Our second quarter 2023 normalized adjusted EPS was 37 cents Adjusted EBITDA was $122 million for the second quarter 2023, and the adjusted EBITDA margin was 44%. On slide 9, we provided a summary of our operating expense results. For the second quarter 2023, we reported $173 million adjusted operating expenses. We continue to maintain an efficient cost structure and disciplined expense management, which has helped us to control our operating expenses. during the inflationary environment. Financing interest expense was $25 million for the second quarter, with the benefit of the interest rate swap contract that we entered in the prior year. Our blended interest rate was around 5% for long-term debt in aggregate. Our capitalization remains adequate. We remain committed to our $0.24 per quarter dividend. The combination of the dividend payout and the share repurchase program demonstrate our to return capital to our shareholders. Now I would like to turn the call over to the operator for the Q&A.

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Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad now. If you change your mind, please press star followed by 2. And when preparing to ask your question, please ensure that your phone is unmuted locally. And for our first question, we will go to the line of Daniel Fannin of Jefferies. Daniel, your line is now open.

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Daniel Fannin

Thanks. Good morning. Doug, I appreciate the commentary on the environment. I was hoping you could expand a bit. It seems like April was kind of the low, and then you saw improvement throughout, and it appears to be continuing a bit in July. Maybe just bifurcate or expand a bit upon kind of what the asset classes or areas, geographies that maybe really have seen both kind of the more improvement and also kind of where the biggest levels of change have been.

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Harry

Yeah, good morning and thank you, Dan. You're under a lot of pressure because you've now replaced Rich Rapetto as the lead-off questioner. So we all miss Rich and thank him for all of his efforts over the years. But anyhow, getting back to your question. Yeah, April, just anecdotally in talking to competitors, particularly on the institutional side, was one of the slowest months that people have seen in over a decade. I think a lot of that had to do with macro investments had to do with some of the regional bank catastrophes, for lack of a better word, that were happening here in the United States. So it was just very, very slow. And the big banks saw that in April as well, and certainly we saw it on the market-making side. The performance then progressed throughout the quarter and picked up through and including June, obviously, and allowed us to report the quarter that we were reporting, and as I noted in my comments, we have seen an improvement, you know, it's only 15, 16, whatever, 17, 18 trading days in July, and that trend has continued, I would say, most particularly in U.S. equities, which is our largest asset class, and that's obviously, you know, drives a lot of our performance, certainly on the market-making side. I did highlight in my remarks that, you know, Europe in particular was very, very slow in The second quarter, there's a public company called Flow Traders, and they reported, and they obviously had a difficult second quarter, so you can kind of see what the metrics are in terms of Europe and whatnot. We've seen somewhat of an improvement of that in June and July as well. So I would say really U.S. equities in particular was very surprisingly slow in April, and we've seen an improvement.

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Daniel Fannin

Great. That's helpful. And you mentioned fixed income, you know, and I think in commentary around some of your data for the quarter, one of your domestic peers, you know, had an announcement this quarter about getting more, being more active within corporate fixed income on the market making side. Can you maybe talk about, you know, your presence in that market and how you're thinking about that opportunity going forward?

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Harry

Yeah, no, look, I mean, I think it was great news to be candid. I mean, obviously, they're a competitor and a great firm. You're referring to Citadel Securities. I think it validates our thesis that, you know, we've been active as a market maker in credit. You know, we're going on like our second kind of full year, if you will, doing all the virtu things in terms of onboarding counterparties, you know, developing, trading, expertise in mostly investment-grade debt, becoming a disclosed market maker on Market Access and partner with Market Access and TradeWeb and Bloomberg and all the other venues that allow us to have distribution. The good news is that we've improved our win rates, we've improved our credibility, if you will, and we think that we can be a credible source of liquidity as a liquidity provider either directly to buy-side counterparties or through distribution partners like Market Access, TradeWeb, et cetera. In addition, we have expanded our capability in rates, both on the run and off the run. We have over 50 firms that we are enabled for trading rates, again, using primarily Bloomberg and TradeWeb. We're agnostic as to the distribution mechanics. And so it's very early days. We're seeing maybe less than like 5% of the volume from, you know, 5% to 10% of the clients on these platforms. It's something that I'm personally engaged with because I think it's a marketplace where we can add value. Again, there's a lot of room and I think a lot of opportunity, and we've always done well competing in our part of the market and using our style. So these are two marketplaces, if you will, for credit companies. and rates where we think that we can add value and that announcement from Citadel just frankly validates the decisions that we made a couple years ago to reallocate some of our resources, capital and personnel into this area. Thank you. Thank you, Dan.

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Operator

Thank you. And in the interest of time, if you could please limit yourself to one question and one related follow-up if necessary. And for our next question, we will go to the line of Ken Worthington from JP Morgan. Ken, your line is now open.

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Ken Worthington

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. We'd love an update in terms of where you are in the single stock option market making rollout roadmap. Is the 605, 606 type of business still the end goal for you in options? And maybe how far along is Virtu in terms of being able to effectively participate in that single stock options business the way you do for equities for client business?

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Harry

Yeah, good question. It is definitely the end goal. I would say not that we've got distracted from it. I think the opportunity, frankly, in index market making both on the customer and non-customer side has frankly dwarfed that opportunity. I mean, you probably track all the metrics in terms of what the SPI and SPX volumes were relative to single options, and there has been a dramatic shift. I don't know if it was because of zero-date options or whatnot. I mean, that's for, you know, you can ask CBOE and some of the other smart people as to why that's happened. But they, I mean, I guess our decision to compete first in the index family has been validated because we've seen an enormous shift of interest on the institutional and frankly on the retail side because you can see what's a customer option and what's not a customer option in a lot of these venues to the index family. It is certainly in the roadmap, but it has descended in importance because the addressable market is so huge in the index family here in the United States. I would also point out that we do have an up and running index business in Asia, primarily in the Indian and Japanese markets. I don't want to put a date on it because every time I suggest we're going to be operational by so and such date, we keep pushing it out because there's such an opportunity in the index family that we continue to, and frankly, you know, with MEMEX and different options venues continue to come up, there's a lot more opportunity to improve our index market making capabilities in the United States.

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Ken Worthington

Great. Thank you. Thanks, Ken.

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Operator

Our next question today is from the line of Chris Allen of Citi. Chris, your line is now open if you'd like to proceed.

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Chris Allen

Yeah, morning, everyone. I wanted to follow up on Dan's questions on the rates. Historically, you've talked about market structure impediments to getting bigger in the rates business. What's the outlook there? There's a lot of talk around moving to centralized clearing, improvement on settlement times. And then in terms of your penetration level right now, let's say 5% of volume, is this just because you're kind of just getting up to speed right now, just starting to slowly build the business? What's the longer-term opportunities that you see there?

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Harry

Yeah, I'm going to do something that you will never hear me say on an earnings call and compliment the chair of the SEC in terms of, you know, centralized clearing of treasury products and, you know, real-time reporting or relatively real-time reporting or trace for treasuries. All of those things are positives, I think, for the marketplace. And certainly those are initiatives that this SEC has undertaken. And we have been publicly and privately very supportive of those because I think it enhances competition. So I think what has changed in the marketplace is a little bit of that. I mean, it's the natural efficiency of the marketplace. I mean, 10 years ago, even five years ago, these were marketplaces that were largely dominated by the big dealers. I think the buy side has gotten smarter in terms of seeking alternative liquidity providers. There are dozens of those. And we now have credibility with the distributors of the products, i.e., the trade webs and the Bloombergs of the world, who are great business partners of ours. Market Access, obviously, bought Liquidity Edge, and so we work with them as well. using those partners to enable our distribution and to give us credibility. I mean, it's always a fight, Chris, to get into the wheel, if you will, on the buy side. So they can't enable 30 liquidity providers. It's no different than in equities and what we do in our business and alert, et cetera. So it's understanding who the key counterparties are. getting credibility with distribution channels, the trade reps, the Bloombergs, the market accesses of the world, and then providing good real-time pricing. I mean, just yesterday we were engaged on this with some senior folks at TradeWeb to understand who the main clients are, how we can get better, what they're looking for in terms of markouts and response times. It's the blocking and tackling of market making, which we're very, very good at, But it's a very competitive marketplace with dozens and dozens of competitors and hundreds and hundreds of counterparties. So sifting through all that to build out the right offering and provide value to the market is what we're doing. So we're in the top 20 on TradeWeb right now, which is great. But obviously we would like to be in the top 10 and ultimately in the top five, whether that's realistic or not, given the competitive nature of that market. but I think our scale gives us an advantage. And again, the fact that we're multi-asset class, so to the extent these rates products manifest themselves either as a future or an ETF, obviously those are marketplaces that we have access to as well. And we always pride ourselves in being the most efficient provider of the two-sided quote. That's a nice way of saying we manage our expenses. And so we can tighten up our prices in order to be competitive. So again, this is just you know kind of virtue 101 how to build a business this is clearly different than some of the other uh you know that than u.s equities but it's in a marketplace that we think is eminently addressable uh by our product offering cool thanks a lot guys thank you thank you and as a reminder to ask any further questions please press star fraud by one on your telephone keypad and our next question is from the line of michael cyprus of morgan stanley

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Operator

Michael, your line is open.

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Michael

Great. Thank you. Good morning. I want to circle back to your commentary on the index options volumes where you guys have been quite active. It sounds like you're excited about the opportunity set there. But I was hoping you might be able to maybe elaborate on what you're seeing across the marketplace that's driving the strength in index options and how sustainable do you think this activity is, particularly if we go into different types of market environments over the next year or two. And if you could maybe provide any sort of color on what sort of customers you're trading with on the other side. We hear a lot of it's retail, but how would you characterize that retail activity? And to what extent do you see or think institutions could start to come in?

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Harry

Yeah, that's a very good question, Michael. Look, I mean, I give credit, I guess, to the folks at the options exchanges that were deriving these products. But, like, you know, the daily exploration product, I think, you know, are – senses that it trades more because they're, I'll use the word, better and cheaper hedging instruments than other instruments that have been out there. So this drives volumes and drives, you know, interest from both professional traders and institutional traders. So we don't expect that, you know, these, I mean, obviously there'll be ebbs and flows with macro and market volumes, but we don't expect that this shift will change any time in the near future and, you know, hats off to you know, the folks at CBOE and other institutions that have done a great job, you know, creating a, a hedgeable instrument that is, that provides efficiency and scale. I mean, that's how markets work and that's what we're all about. And so we were excited about that. So we feel validated and I give a lot of credit to the folks that run our options business because they beat me over the head and said, no, this is where the, this is where the market's going to be going a couple of years ago. And they were right. And so the fact that we are, up and running and very, very competitive in those products has been very, very beneficial to our business. In terms of what, quote unquote, customer flow this is, whether it's mom and pop retail, I would imagine it's not because obviously there's suitability concerns. I think it's probably smaller trading firms and folks like that that are going through options aggregators And that's really where our focus has been in terms of customer engagement. It's not necessarily with the big retail firms, but more the options aggregator firms like Adash and firms like that that act as a front end and an aggregator for professional or smaller trading firm options flow. And I think that's where we have focused and will continue to focus our energies You know, it's been about 40% of the flow, you know, come from customer accounts in the SPX index complex, and that's meaningful. You know, it's tagged either as customer or non-customer, so you can kind of allocate your interest based on that. So, you know, that's significant. It's a very attractive, addressable market, and that's where we focus our energies.

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Operator

Great. Thank you. Our next question today is from the line of Patrick Moley of Piper Sandler. Patrick, your line is now open.

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Patrick Moley

Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. So just, Doug, I had a question on internalization opportunities. I was wondering if you could maybe compare and contrast the opportunities you saw in the second quarter relative to the first quarter. And then just given, you know, the lower volatility environment we're in, maybe what that means for those opportunities going forward and maybe what that means for the for the norm-wise earnings power of the firm overall? Thanks.

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Harry

Yes, good question, and welcome to the call. As Rich's successor, you've got some very, very large shoes to fill. So good luck to you, and we look forward to working with you. So to answer your question, look, we don't disclose what our internalization rates are by our various groups, but it is, and I have mentioned it historically on calls, and it continues to be a key competitive advantage to this firm. you know, our rates were in line with what we thought opportunities were during the quarter. And so we were very, very pleased with what we're doing. I mean, the examples I've given before about options hedging and the ETF desk, you know, laying off risk on our single stock desk and, you know, et cetera, et cetera, down the line, you know, continues a pace. I think that is part and parcel of the culture and equally important, the technological setup of Virtu in the sense that a widget is a widget is a widget, and we don't really have depth per se, so we're very capable of doing that. One thing I will point out is that for our at-the-money offering business, Virtu Capital Markets, it's at least double what we think other competitors can do in terms of crossing with internal Virtu flow. So that's a key selling point. We obviously don't have research capital and calendar. What we offer in that business is real alacrity around execution capabilities, both on a technological side, but also being able to internalize an awful lot of the flow. And based on our understanding of what other desks do or other institutions do, we believe that our internalization rate, for example, in our ATM business is at least 2x what our competitors are offering, and that has resonated with clients and hopefully will resonate with more issuers in the future. We continue to be very excited about that business in particular, Patrick.

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Patrick Moley

All right, thanks a lot.

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Operator

Our next question today is from the line of Alex Blochstein of Goldman Stacks. Alex, your line is now open.

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Alex Blochstein

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the question. I was hoping we could spend a minute on balance sheet strategy from sort of two angles. I guess on the one hand, hear you on opportunities and fixed income. So to what extent do you think that might impact how much capital you need to run the business with and what that means for sort of capital return framework down the road? And then secondly, if we look at the balance sheet leverage, that's obviously been picking up with EBITDA coming down. So just maybe a reminder, what level of debt to EBITDA do you feel comfortable running with? And again, with higher leverage today, does that impact your capital return framework at all?

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Andrew

No. Hey, Alex, it's Joe. I'll take that. There's no change in that view. I mean, naturally, with a softer environment, and reduce profitability, our returns are gonna look lower on a trailing basis. But in terms of the amount of capital we need to run the firm, in terms of prudent buffers and meeting all our regulatory obligations, there's no change. And the fixed income business is kind of planned for within the amount of capital that we use today. And unsurprisingly, in a softer environment, we deploy less capital than we do in a more expansive environment. And so from slide six, when you look at those trailing invested capital numbers and our EBITDA and our return, I would say one, it includes planning for fixed income, which is a little more capital intensive. You know, we use, obviously, we use prime brokers. We don't self-clear there, but we are, you know, appropriately kind of, you know, planned for in the numbers that we deploy. That's kind of, that's point one. Point two, in terms of the overall leverage, look, the, you know, we were very fortunate, I think, both from a timing standpoint and from kind of a management of the leverage in terms of swaps and, you know, muting the impact of of the higher rates so we're very happy with the overall level of debt uh it allows us to buy back shares at the you know various points i've updated this slide in here this quarter uh and it allows us to um you know have the flexibility to keep our dividend uh so you know we are we we refinanced uh in early 22 uh in early 22 you know we got rid of most of the uh you know more punitive kind of required cash flow sweeps and amortizations. So we don't really look at it as whether it's two and a half times, it's three times. It's a volatile business. We're kind of right, focused more on the notional level of debt, and we're very, very comfortable where it is today.

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Harry

Okie dokes. Thank you.

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Andrew

Thanks. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. We have no further questions in the queue today. So this will conclude the Virtue Financial 2023 second quarter results conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines and please have a lovely rest.

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