Viridian Therapeutics, Inc.

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

3/8/2023

spk10: Welcome to the Viridian Therapeutics fourth quarter and full year 2022 conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the floor over to Ms. Louisa Stone, Manager of Investor Relations at Viridian. Please go ahead.
spk00: Thank you and welcome everyone to our fourth quarter and full year 2022 conference call. The press release reporting our financial results is available on the investors page of our corporate website at www.viridiantherapeutics.com. Joining me on the call this morning are Scott Myers, our President and Chief Executive Officer, Christian Humer, our Chief Financial and Business Officer, Dr. Deepa Rajagopalan, our Chief Product and Strategy Officer, and Todd James, Senior Vice President, Corporate Affairs and Investor Relations. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call and webcast will contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial outlook in addition to regulatory, product development, and commercialization plans and research activities. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ from those forecasted. A description of these risks can be found in our most recent Form 10Q and 10K on file with the SEC. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Myers, our President and CEO.
spk02: Thank you, Elisa. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. This is my first quarterly conference call since joining Viridian about a month ago. For those of you who are not familiar with my background, I've spent over 30 years in the pharmaceutical and medical technology space. Earlier in my career, I held senior commercial roles in the U.S. and abroad for Johnson & Johnson and UCB. Most recently, I've served as the CEO at four companies, AMAG, Rainier, Cascadian, and Aircrime. I also have board member and chairman experience from the boards of a few public and private biopharmaceutical companies. Over the past month, since my appointment as CEO at Viridian, I have met with many new colleagues. I have spent time diving deeper into our data and development plans in TED and learning more about our exciting preclinical research, all of which have further strengthened my excitement and resolve for our company. I look forward to building on the company's previous plans and looking for ways to improve our processes and execution. We have a significant opportunity in front of us to bring potential best-in-class IV and subcutaneous administered medicines to patients with TED and expand our research and development efforts beyond TED. Our team has been growing rapidly in key areas to support our late-stage development efforts. We are focused on adding the right resources to support operational execution across the organization. I'm excited to lead and support our teams as we work together to achieve our vision of building Viridian into a fully integrated biopharmaceutical company. Now I'll review the important progress that Viridian made in 2022. Christian Humer, our CFO, will discuss our financial results, and then we look forward to taking your questions. 2022 was an impactful year across our TED programs, especially for our lead program, VRDN001, in the IV form, a humanized monoclonal antibody believed to act as a full antagonist of insulin-like growth factor 1 receptor, or IGF-1R. Over the past several quarters, we have announced a steady stream of positive top-line clinical data from three dose cohorts of the ongoing Phase I and II clinical trial evaluating the safety and efficacy of BRDN001 in patients with active TED. In early January of this year, we reported top-line data from the third low-dose cohort, showing that after just two infusions of BRDN001, 3 mg per kg, patients showed significant and rapid improvements in both signs and symptoms of TET. This data, combined with the prior 10 and 20 mg per kg results we reported in early 2022, reinforce our belief that BRDN001 may offer a differentiated efficacy and similar safety profile relative to tefritumumab. marketed under the brand name of Tepeza, which is the only FDA-approved drug to treat patients with TED. The next set of data that we will provide regarding the VRDN001 IV program will be the initial results from the proof-of-concept study evaluating VRDN001 in patients with chronic TED. We expect to report these results in the second quarter of this year. Now moving to our ongoing and planned phase 3 trials. The positive data from the phase 2 trials support our ongoing global phase 3 Thrive trial, which we initiated in December of 2022 to evaluate the efficacy and safety of VRDN001 in patients with active TED. We were proud to announce the first patient was enrolled in the study, a major milestone for Viridian and a meaningful step toward providing a new and potentially improved treatment option for patients with TED. The trial remains on track, with top-line results expected in the middle of 2024. Following the upcoming Phase 2 data in patients with chronic TED, we plan to start a second Phase 3 trial, known as Thrive 2, in the middle of 2023, with top-line results expected at the end of 2024. I'll turn now to our subcutaneous programs, which include VRDN001, VRDN002, and VRDN003. All three candidates have the potential to be developed into a convenient, patient-friendly, subcutaneous, self-administered pen device, which could significantly reduce the burden of care for patients suffering from TED. The recent low-dose data of BRDN001 support its potential as a subcutaneous program candidate. We are now planning a Phase I trial in Healthy Volunteers with results expected in the fourth quarter of this year. VRDN002 is our novel monoclonal antibody believed to act as a partial antagonist of IGF-1R. This antibody incorporates half-life extension technology, which led to a half-life of up to 43 days in our Phase 1 trial in healthy volunteers, compared to 10 to 11 days for VRDN001 and tepritumumab. Our team is currently planning a proof-of-concept trial to evaluate VRDN002 in patients with active TED with data expected by the end of this year. VRDN003 is an anti-IGF 1R monoclonal antibody with the same amino acid sequence as VRDN001, except for the addition of the half-life extension technology that is incorporated in VRDN002. We are advancing VRDN003 quickly towards an investigational new drug application in the second quarter of 2023, with Phase 1 results in healthy volunteers expected in the fourth quarter of 2023. Following the clinical data, we ultimately plan to select one of the candidates as our lead subcutaneous program before the end of 2023. The selected lead program pivotal trial is planned for the middle of 2024. We look forward to our upcoming presentations on both BRDN001 and BRDN002 at this year's annual meeting of the North American Neuro-Optimology Society, or NANOS, that's being held next week in Orlando, Florida. The team is targeting medical congresses throughout the year where we hope to present our data and further engage with the medical community, allowing us to generate awareness about Viridian and our data in TED amongst the physician and patient communities. As you can see, we have made significant progress in our research and development activities throughout our TED programs. If approved, we believe our intravenous and subcutaneous programs would represent the most complete commercial offering available for treating physicians and patients with TED. As differentiated new entrants with potentially simpler, more convenient dosing regimens, we would expect these therapies to be highly competitive in the new start market. Finally, with respect to our early stage preclinical pipeline, we intend to expand beyond TED in the coming years into rare and autoimmune diseases. The company is currently advancing multiple preclinical programs, including VRDN 004, 005, and 006. Please stay tuned as we plan to provide additional information on at least one of these programs later this year. With that, I will turn the call over to Christian, who will provide a financial review for the fourth quarter and full year ending 2022. Christian?
spk04: Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to refer you to our press release issued earlier today for a detailed summary of our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2022 and take this opportunity to review a few items. We ended the fourth quarter and full year with approximately $424.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments, compared with $431.3 million as of September 30, 2022. We believe that our current cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments, excluding our $75 million credit facility, will be sufficient to fund our operations into the second half of 2025. Research and development expenses were $39.3 million during the fourth quarter of 2022, compared with $22.4 million for the same period last year. The increase in research and development expenses was primarily driven by an increase in CMC expenses, preclinical costs, expenses related to milestones and upfront payments, as well as personnel costs. Research and development expenses were $100.9 million during the 12 months ended December 31st, 2022, compared with $56.9 million for the same period last year. The increase in research and development expenses was primarily driven by clinical trial and preclinical costs, expenses related to milestones and upfront payments, and CMC expenses. As of March 1st, 2023, Meridian had approximately 57.7 million shares of common stock outstanding on a last converted basis, which included 42.8 million shares of common stock outstanding and an aggregate of approximately 14.9 million shares of common stock issuable upon the conversion of 172,435 and 51,210 shares of Series A and Series B preferred stock, respectively. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator?
spk10: Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad at this time. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. We do ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up, but you may re-queue for any additional questions. Once again, that is star 1 to register a question at this time. The first question today is coming from Gavin Clark-Gentner of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
spk06: Hey, welcome, Scott, and thanks for taking the questions. I'm just wondering what the reason to test 001 sub-Q in healthy volunteers is. Is this just a backup in case that three doesn't work out for some reason? And then for the 002 subcutaneous proof of concept trial, can you give us any more details on what this might look like in terms of how many patients and what time the endpoint may be measured at? Thank you.
spk02: Yeah, so thanks for the question. On the first one, I think we have the benefit of having several compounds we can look at. And now that we know a lot more about 001 and the 3 mg per kg cohort, we have the opportunity to test it in healthy volunteers to look at immunogenicity and bioavailability, just like we're looking at 003. And it just gives us more information to make a decision at the end of the year.
spk16: On the second one, we haven't spoken anymore about that particular program. Got it. Thanks. You're welcome. Thanks for the question.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Thomas Smith of SVP Securities. Please go ahead.
spk14: Yeah. Hi, everyone. This is Mike on for Tom. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you just discuss your expectations for the results from your own chronic TED proof of concept study? and how do you expect the efficacy to look versus active TED? And then just as a follow-up, how could competitor data expected in chronic TED help shape your thinking about your clinical development strategy in these patients?
spk02: So I'll unpack those several questions. On the first one, given in chronic, we're only giving two doses. We certainly like to see some impact on proptosis, but at two doses, it may be in the... level of negative one millimeters or so. We don't want to overshoot that. We expect Horizon's data to come out about mid-year, and they're using a full course of therapy, so theirs might be higher. If you look back at the case reports in chronic patients that have been looked at, I think there's about 57 of them out there, and were retreated with Depesa, they actually got some pretty good results, so... You know, in all, we want the data all to be compelling so all of us can use that when we get a final approval and we can go make a lot of noise with the insurance companies so we can get that covered and people can get access to it. And if you could repeat the second and third question, that would be helpful.
spk14: Sure. Just in terms of, you know, first of all, how you expect efficacy to look versus active said, I know you kind of just walked through it a little bit. and then how the competitor data that you mentioned in chronic TAD patients could help shape your thinking about your clinical development strategy in these patients?
spk02: Yeah, definitely. You know, if chronic, when they level out in the plateau phase of the disease, as we know it's a biphasic disease, the numbers are usually not quite as high. And so seeing the total effect like you would see in active patients, probably won't happen. You start off with lower CAS potentially and you start off with lower proptosis. So you may not see the magnitude of active. What we like to talk about is we see a rapid onset to relief and the proptosis reduced quicker. And then we'll have to look at the totality of all the scores, whether it's CAS, diplopia, and proptosis. And with regard to the competition, I We'll have to see what their data looks like, and that's going to help guide us. Hopefully, they will release their information before us, but we're going to look at our own data and their data and make some decisions on the schema of the study going forward.
spk16: Great. Thanks very much. You're welcome. Thank you for the question.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Kambiz Yazdi of Jefferies. Please go ahead.
spk17: Hi, Kane. Good morning. discuss the rationale for dose selection for the second chronic TED cohort at three milligrams. And then how will you select between your subcutaneous assets given that you'll have some, you know, kind of phase two results for 002 while like for 003 you'll have healthy volunteer data by the end of the year?
spk02: Thank you. Yeah, on the first one, I mean, we've done some dose ranging in all the cohorts. We're testing both 10 mg per kg and 3 mg per kg. We saw such good results in January in our 3 mg per kg cohort that we wanted to try it again in this setting. These patients tend to be at a steady state, as the previous question asked. So, to see if a lower dose could work, it's always better to understand that. And it also continues to inform our subcutaneous programs, because we didn't see such good data at such low dosage. And we're going to use a multitude of data to make our selection on the sub-Q program. Obviously, the health, as I mentioned, I think, in an earlier question, the healthy volunteer data will definitely guide us on bioavailability, excuse me. as well as immunogenicity, and then we see when we can get all that data lined up at once, it'll really give us a better choice to make.
spk17: Excellent. Maybe as one follow-up, what are kind of some attractive markets for your non-TED assets? Are you going to follow the same roadmap that you did for 001 in pursuing the kind of a rare disease market with limited competition where you could do some antibody optimization, or is there maybe some more creative options out there too? Thank you.
spk02: Yeah, it's a great question. Really, there's the hallmark of Viridian. We look for great markets that there's been an early entrant, maybe, and as we've seen with Tepratimumab, very good entrant, fixed a lot of unmet needs, but not a perfect drug because potentially if it's a partial antagonist, we're a full antagonist, and we believe that's going to be beneficial on maybe you can differentiate based on efficacy or safety or convenience of delivery. So we're going to use those type of analysis to pick a good market where there's limited competition. We feel like through our engineering, we can differentiate and then bring to bear rapid development to market. And by that point, we will also have completely built our commercialization efforts and market access and all those things. So it's, you know, our focus right now is TED, but we really look forward to unveiling at least one of the preclinical programs coming up this year.
spk16: Awesome. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you for the question.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Laura Chico of Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.
spk09: Good morning, guys. Thanks very much for taking the question. Scott, one for you. I would love to hear a little bit more about what you were most excited about with respect to the opportunity of Viridian and if there's perhaps one program that stands out to you as most compelling. And then a follow-up question for Christian. Just wondering if you could speak a little bit more to the cash runway guidance and just trying to think about the pace of operating expense spend in 23 relative to the rate we're seeing exiting in the fourth quarter. Thanks very much, guys.
spk02: Yeah, no, thanks for the question. So I did, but I was, you know, pitched the concept of becoming the leader of the company. I was really excited by multiple things, first and foremost. When you look at our pipeline chart, the number of programs we have going in both IV and sub-Q, and then a pipeline behind that, I think that's a bit rare in smaller companies, although I would not say we're necessarily smaller in market cap, but the company is just about 100 people with multiple clinical programs going on. My history has been at both J&J and UCB where we, I was part of the anti-TNF businesses a little less directly to J&J, but my countries in Europe were the first to launch Synxio, which is anti-TNF. And as you look at the analog of that market, where you go from an IV to a sub-Q and maybe even oral, there's a lot of similarities between that analog and what we're doing, and I think how the TED market could actually evolve over time. And then you look at, I met a lot of the team, was very impressed with their intellectual horsepower as well as their sort of commitment to the company and their commitment to these areas. And finally, it's a well-capitalized company. I mean, it's been a couple of rough years in biotech and to find companies that have late-stage assets, middle-stage assets, and even early, early-stage assets that you can move forward. And the willingness of our board and a lot of the investor executives, they want us to build an independent company. and be fully integrated, and that's what I do for a living. I've done it for about 12 years across four companies, and I'm really excited to be here. Thank you, Laura.
spk03: So, Laura, in terms of cash guidance, we had around $425 million in cash at the end of 2022. In terms of cash runways into the second half of 2025, On a program-by-program basis, it funds both Thrive and Thrive2 data readouts at the end of 2024 and a little bit into 2025. Our sub-Q programs are funded through to kind of what we call the bake-off decision point, where we select one of our sub-Q programs to move forward into a pivotal trial at the end of 2023. Pivotal Trial Prep is funded so that we can move swiftly from selecting the program to a pivotal trial. We will unveil, as Scott mentioned, one of our non-TED programs over the course of 2023. All of these programs are funded either through IMD filing or candidate selection, And once we unveil these programs, we'll let the market decide how those programs can be funded. In terms of operating expenses, you should assume as we move closer to commercialization that those expenses will increase as we kind of gear up to being ready for commercialization. And in terms of R&D expenses, that will also increase as we ramp up and move closer to a pivotal trial with our sub-Q program.
spk09: Very helpful, guys.
spk10: Thank you.
spk16: Cool. Thank you, Laura.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Jason Butler of JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
spk12: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. And, Scott, let me add my congrats on your joining. Wondering if you could give us an update on where you're at with the SubQ pen device and when you think you can incorporate a potential go-to-market device into the clinical program. Thanks.
spk02: Yeah, I'm actually, Deepa's here, and she's overseeing that effort. I'm going to pitch that one to her.
spk08: Thanks, Scott. Thanks for the question. So we are looking at a number of auto-injector devices to support our SETQ program. We're in early stages of assessing those options, and we'll look forward to selecting that device and integrating it into our program as we move into patient studies following the sub-Q bake-off later this year.
spk16: Okay, thanks. Thank you, Jason.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Sam Slutsky of LifeSci Capital. Please go ahead.
spk15: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. This is Sam Ansarami. Just On the chronic TED study, can you just remind us of the inclusion criteria of patients being enrolled and then how that compares to the ongoing phase four study of TPEZA?
spk16: Yes, of course.
spk02: Yes, so in the chronic study, the inclusion criteria are a cast that ranges from zero to seven, proptosis, it's greater than or equal to three millimeters, and onset of TED, symptoms greater than 12 months. I believe the chronic study for Tepese is greater than 15 months, a cast of zero or one.
spk08: And inclusion of time since diagnosis from between two years to 10 years.
spk15: Gotcha. Okay. That's helpful. And I guess do you suspect any kind of differences just based on those baselines and so forth as we think about interpreting results?
spk16: Not particularly. I think we're going to have to see how our drug works.
spk02: And we expect probably lower CASAs. And because we're only using two doses, we'll have to see the magnitude of our effect. I think if we see any effect after two doses, that would be really good news. And we'll just have to see how their eight-dose regimen works.
spk16: Got it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Sam.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Kalpit Patel of B. Reilly Securities. Please go ahead.
spk11: Yeah. Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe one for 001. Can you give us a sense of the dosing frequency and the number of infusions you're planning to initially test with that sub-Q formulation of three milligram per kilogram? Is it going to be the same as the IV formulation? And then 14002 in the Plan Thrive 2 study, have you disclosed if that will include patients with all CAS scores?
spk16: Thank you. I don't believe we've identified what the sub-Q dosing regimens will be. So that's not been disclosed on 001 and on 002. Could you repeat the question?
spk11: For 002, the Thrive 2 study, have you disclosed if that will include all patients with all types of CAS scores?
spk05: 001 will be the molecule that goes ahead for Thrive 2, and though we would currently expect it to mirror the current proof-of-concept Phase 2 design within being inclusive of all CAS, albeit chronic patients tend to be 0, 1, 2s, and 3s relative to active patients being greater than or equal to 4. We'll have to wait to see our data to make a final protocol decision on that design and how inclusive it is on specific to CAS.
spk11: Okay, thank you. Yes, I meant for O01 for Thrive 2.
spk02: Okay. Thank you.
spk16: We were a little confused, Doug, because we weren't studying O2 in chronic. Thanks for clearing that up.
spk11: Yeah. I mixed that up.
spk16: Thanks, Kyle.
spk10: Thanks, Doug.
spk16: Thanks for the question.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Douglas Zhao of HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi. Good morning, and thanks for taking the question. Just curious, do you think there may be or have you contemplated sort of a strategic value of potentially advancing two different assets for chronic TED versus active TED, just from a pricing standpoint, some potential strategic advantages? Thank you.
spk02: I think putting two assets into the same marketplace would be very difficult, I think, because then there is no real way to know, other than looking retrospectively at which protocol was being used, I think. What you see in our active study, which is quite unique and could eventually be used there, is doing an eight-dose regimen and a five-dose and see if we can hit the same efficacy amounts because it would be a great benefit to patients, providers, and even the infusion centers to have a shorter course of therapy. So that's certainly a possibility. And then the sub-Q strategy in chronic, I think, is a marvelous way to go so that patients can take control of their own admission of the therapeutic at the home, not have to go to caregivers. And we think that's a real great idea moving forward, and that's why we're doing it.
spk16: Okay. Thanks. Thanks for the question.
spk10: Thank you. The next question is coming from Michael Higgins of Flattenberg Thalmann. Please go ahead.
spk07: thanks after congratulations scott on joining ridian as ceo a couple questions on near-term events for double a1 and chronic ted patients looks like you're planning to share initial approved concept results in q2 what should we be looking for there how many patients etc yeah sure so that's going to be 16 patients over two cohorts it's the 10 it's very similar to our other trial design it's 10 nicks per gig
spk02: Q3 times 2 and there'll be a placebo arm in both the 10 mgs per kg and the 3 mgs per kg. And I think we spoke about this earlier, but basically since we're only two doses versus Tepes' full course of eight doses, we expect to see, like to see an effect in proctosis. How high that'll be after two doses in this population, we can't really say, but we definitely like to see some effect there. And actually we're collecting all the other, the diplopia and the CAS scores as well. So we have a much broader CAS range in the inclusion criteria, zero to seven versus TPEZs, which is zeros and ones. So we'd hope to see an effect there, but those tend to be a little lower in the chronic population. But if you look in, as I mentioned, and there's a great series of case studies on patients that had chronic TED and were retreated with TPEZ, and they actually did see a pretty good effect after redosing. You know, we're hoping that works out for them. And in the sense of now with Amgen behind Horizon, if that deal closes, the ability to take that data and really go out and convince coverage decisions on Chronic, which will really broaden the market. And our whole strategy is to be the second entrant, and we can take full advantage of that.
spk07: Makes a lot of sense. Look forward to it. And then one follow-up here on Thrive, too. I believe the screening started in November, but we're seeing the start of the trial delayed from first half to mid-23. So, any feedback for us on what drove that? Thanks.
spk02: Yeah. So, actually, I think you said THRIVE 2 started. It's actually the THRIVE study that started late last year, and THRIVE 2 would start later this year.
spk16: So just to be clear, that's not – that Thrive 2 study has not started yet. And we're not providing any guidance on enrollment around Thrive. Hey, Michael, it's Tom.
spk05: On the Thrive 2 starting in the middle of this year, that will really be informed when we generate and see – the proof of concept chronic data here in the second quarter. And so that's just an operational execution thing, see the data, get some stakeholder feedback, finalize the protocol, and open the study. And so to get data in Q2 and have the phase three open in the middle of the year is actually pretty solid execution. So just a slight change there.
spk07: Okay. That makes a lot of sense. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Michael.
spk10: Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that is Star 1 if you would like to register a question at this time. The next question is coming from Serge Bellinger of Needham. Please go ahead.
spk13: Hi, good morning. Also wanted to congratulate and welcome Scott. Two questions for us. First one on the Phase 3 Thrive trial. Just where you are in terms of site openings, and I think you just mentioned you don't want to discuss enrollment, but maybe just talk about the the targeted mix between U.S. and ex-U.S. and whether you think the presence of the TASA could affect the moment. And the second question is, remind me again, should we expect week 12 data for any of the other two cohorts of the O1 proof of concept trial? Thank you.
spk02: Yes, on the first question, we're targeting 50 clinical sites in North America and Europe that would roll 120 patients. Currently, we have 31 sites open. Majority are in the U.S. and then smattering across a couple of the big five, the U.K. and a couple of mid-sized countries in Europe.
spk16: Could you repeat the second question, please?
spk13: The second question was whether we should expect week 12 data for the other two cohorts of the proof of concept to drop.
spk08: Yeah, great question. We are in the process of analyzing those data, and we'll look forward to sharing those data at a scientific conference soon. We want to make sure that we share the totality of that data and bring that to you in a scientific form. Thank you.
spk05: And hey, Serge, this is Todd. I'll just remind everybody that patients don't receive additional dosing after day zero and day 21 doses. And so really, when we look at data past week six, that longer time period, it's about, you know, follow-up safety and potential duration of that response that the patient gets from just the two doses, that the patients aren't being actively dosed longer. And so expectations for, you know, further efficacy should be, you know, pretty much zero.
spk16: Thank you. Thank you.
spk10: Thank you. At this time, we have reached the conclusion of the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Viridian's President and CEO, Scott Myers, for closing remarks.
spk02: Great. Thank you, Donna, and thanks to everyone for your time this morning. Our team looks forward to interacting with everyone at upcoming conferences this spring. Please feel free to reach out to Todd James or Louisa Stone if you have any follow-up questions, and we are happy to touch base with you. Thanks again, and have a wonderful day.
spk10: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating.
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