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spk08: Welcome to Workday's Fiscal 2024 Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session towards the end of the call. During the Q&A, please limit your questions to one. I will now hand it over to Justin Furby, Vice President of Investment Relations.
spk17: Thank you, Operator. Welcome to Workday's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. On the call, we have Carl Eschenbach, our CEO, Anil Bushri, our Executive Chair, Zane Rowe, our CFO, and Doug Robinson, our Co-President. Following prepared remarks, we will take questions. Our press release was issued after close of market and is posted on our website, where this call is being simultaneously webcast. Before we get started, we want to emphasize that some of our statements on this call, particularly our guidance, are based on the information we have as of today and include forward-looking statements regarding our financial results, applications, customer demand, operations, and other matters. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to the press release and the risk factors in documents we file with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our fiscal 2023 annual report on Form 10-K, and our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q for additional information on risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in such statements. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of workday's performance. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP results. You can find additional disclosures regarding these non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations with comparable GAAP results, in our earnings press release, in our investor presentation, and on the investor relations page of our website. The webcast replay of this call will be available for the next 90 days on our company website under the investor relations link. Additionally, our quarterly investor presentation will be posted on our investor relations website following this call. Also, the customers page of our website includes a list of selected customers and is updated monthly. Our first quarter fiscal 2025 quiet period begins on April 15, 2024. Unless otherwise stated, all financial comparisons in this call will be to our results for the comparable period of our fiscal 2023. With that, I'll hand the call over to Carl.
spk03: Thank you, Justin, and thank you everyone for joining us today. I'm pleased to share that Workday delivered a solid Q4, achieving 18% subscription revenue growth in a non-GAAP operating margin of 24%. These results were driven by momentum across the business and capped off a year of strong execution by our nearly 19,000 workmates across the globe. Over the course of the last year, we've made key investments across our leadership team, go-to-market and partner ecosystem, and our platform, positioning us to drive enduring growth in FY25 and beyond. I couldn't be prouder of what we've accomplished over the last year, particularly in an environment where deal scrutiny remains high. I'd like to thank our customers, partners, and especially my fellow workmates, for making these results possible. My belief in the opportunity ahead for Workday and our value proposition has only gotten stronger in the 14 months since I've joined. With the emergence of AI, shifting talent landscape, and pressure to realize operational efficiencies, leaders are turning to Workday as their trusted platform to manage their most critical assets, their people and their money. Customers have come to trust us with helping them navigate these huge transformations from the cloud to AI. In fact, the theme of building trust took center stage at the World Economic Forum annual meeting in Davos last month. Throughout my conversations, it was clear to me that leaders see the business benefits of implementing AI, but they also recognize building trust is key. Workday stands apart in our commitment to the responsible development of AI technologies, its responsible deployment within our own company, and our advocacy for its regulation. We've been delivering AI capabilities to our customers for nearly a decade, building AI into the core of our platform, and we're making significant investments to further enhance our leadership in this area. Workday Skills Cloud, for example, uses AI to gain insights into an organization's current skills and identify skills needed for the future, allowing for smarter decisions about talent across the company. In our upcoming R1 release, many of the generative AI use cases we showcase at Rising will be put into the hands of early adopters, including job descriptions and knowledge articles. To further accelerate our AI roadmap, today we're excited to announce our planned acquisition of Hired Score, which provides AI-powered talent orchestration solutions. Hired Score's technology delivers data-driven insights to help improve recruiting and internal mobility processes. The combination of our data set and Workday Skills Cloud with Hired Score's solution will provide customers with a transparent, AI-powered talent acquisition and internal mobility offering. Not only is the technology compelling, but Hired Score and Workday share a commitment to responsible AI development, including a focus on explainability and transparency. We are absolutely thrilled about the potential of what we can do together. Now let's move into the performance from the quarter. which reflects the diversity and durability of Workday's business. As we shared at our Financial Analyst Day, our net new business is driven by a balanced mix of new customer wins and expansions within our install base, which speaks to the significant opportunity that we have ahead. From a net new customer perspective, we once again saw strength in full platform deals. We welcome customers like Australian Stock Exchange, Boyd Gaming Corporation, HHS, Ronstadt, UHS of Delaware, and VXI Global Solutions as full platform HCM and financials customers. And new HCM customers this quarter included Crane Company, El Corte Ingles, Hitachi Astimo, Hungry Jacks, Kohler Co., Onse, and Swisscom. Alongside healthy net new customer activity, our customer-based team again delivered in Q4. We had several strategic expansions and renewals in the quarter, including BJ's, Goodyear, and Graystar Global Enterprise. And we had a number of core financial management expansions across our HCM customer base, including Ally Financial, Huntington Bank, Intermountain Health, in store title guarantee. Our create and close motion also had another great quarter, and it's becoming an important driver of our customer-based sales team's growth. From a solutions perspective, we saw healthy uptake across our portfolio, including Xtend, where new ACV doubled year over year in Q4. We now have more than 850 Xtend customers, And I'm pleased to share that roughly one-third of our extend new ACVs signed in Q4 was from our new professional SKU, which includes AI Gateway, as well as Workday Developer Co-Pilot, launching later this year. Beyond the winds, we celebrate when our customers go live on our platform, and I'm pleased to share that in FY24, over 95% of our deployments went live on time. In Q4, we had several strategic HCM deployments, including AT&T, Northern Trust, and Whataburger, alongside notable financial management go-lives, including American University, Sigility Operations, and UMass Memorial Healthcare. To propel our land and expand business, we continue to invest in several growth areas. I'll share a few highlights from those areas now, starting with international. Today, international represents over half of our addressable opportunity, yet is a quarter of our revenues. We're working to change that, and we're seeing early signs of progress. In EMEA, our leadership additions continue to drive improved and more consistent results. I spent a couple weeks visiting our teams in Europe this past quarter, And I have to tell you, I am fired up by the momentum we're building. In Q4, our teams once again delivered healthy new ACV growth across key markets, such as the UK, Spain, and France. We also closed our first deal in EMEA with our Alight co-sell partnership, and we continue to build pipeline with important partnerships alongside ADP and Alight, in addition to our broader referral and co-sell ecosystem. In the Asia-Pacific region, Australia delivered once again, and I'm pleased to share that Japan, which is a key investment priority, drove strong new ACV growth in Q4. While it's still early days for us in this market, we're focused on growing it. To help lead the way, I'm delighted to welcome Chikara Perucci as our new leader of the Japanese market to help us win in one of the world's largest economies. Chikara brings over 25 years of experience in both SaaS security and cloud services from across Japan and APAC. He reports directly to Patrick Blair, our president of global sales. Moving to financials, we're seeing continued proof that our go-to-market and platform investments are paying off with healthy growth in core financials customers and new ACV in a robust pipeline looking forward. We drove a record number of new full platform wins in both Q4 and FY24, and our industry approach is a clear driver of this momentum. Healthcare, for example, again grew new ACV over 50% in Q4, capping off a fantastic FY24. Our innovation in key areas such as supply chain is differentiating us in the market and is driving industry awards such as the recent recognition in best of class in enterprise resource planning for the seventh year in a row. We're also pleased to share that Gartner named Workday a leader in the 2023 Gartner Magic Quadrant for financial planning software for the second time since the category's inception last year. Our education and government teams also drove continued success in FY24, and higher ed was a standout in Q4 with a number of full platform wins including Oregon State University, Portland Community College, and the College of William and Mary. And to help accelerate our trajectory in the U.S. federal business, I'm delighted to welcome Lynn Martin as our new federal leader. Lynn has more than 30 years' experience in the public sector, most recently running Google's U.S. federal business, and before that, running VMware's public sector team for close to a decade. Supporting our progress around many of these investment areas is our partner ecosystem, where our focus is delivering customer outcomes, growing our business through referrals and co-selling, and building differentiated solutions. During Q4, we announced a strategic partnership with Insperity that delivers on all three of these priorities. Through this partnership, Workday will become the platform powering Insperity's PEO service for SMB organizations, effectively opening up a new market opportunity for us. It's a terrific example of how we're innovating our go-to-market strategy to drive growth. Another great example is the Spark and Grow offering, which we launched with Kainos. It helps our emerging and medium enterprise customers to go live on Workday in less than four weeks. We've seen incredible demand for this offering and we're just getting started. These are two great examples of momentum that is building across our ecosystem, which I'm pleased to share now includes more than 200 partners that have been onboarded to refer new sales leads and co-sell with us. We launched this pilot program last May and we've seen momentum building throughout the year with a nice uptick in Q4 partner-driven pipeline generation. In closing, I'm incredibly proud of our team's strong execution throughout FY24, all while navigating a dynamic environment and embracing important changes we've rolled out across the business. We enter FY25 with a strong foundation and a clear strategy to support durable growth while at the same time continuing to drive efficiencies across the business. As I said on my first Workday earnings call one year ago, we have the opportunity to be one of the largest, most enduring, and profitable software businesses of our time. I've never been more convinced in that belief. Before I turn the call over, I'd like to take a minute to acknowledge Anil, who recently moved into a new role as executive chair. Anil, it has been an incredible 14 months, and I'm truly grateful for your partnership and the trust you put in me to lead what you and Dave started nearly 19 years ago. Your technology vision and your commitment to work a special culture and values have put this company in an incredible position. I am excited for what we'll achieve together next. Thank you for continuing to be in my corner, not just in guiding the applications and platform development, but also as a friend. Anil, over to you.
spk00: Thank you, Carl, and to everyone joining today's call. As Carl highlighted, we're continuing to see solid momentum across the business, fueled in large part by our ability to deliver the innovation our customers need to thrive in today's fast-paced and dynamic environment. There is no doubt that more and more organizations, spanning mid-size to large enterprises, are seeing the increasing value in building their businesses upon the Workday platform with AI at its core. Earlier this month, we officially named Carl Cilcia of Workday while I assumed the role of Executive Chair. As I've said before, there is no better person than Carl to lead Workday through this next chapter of growth. He has already made a tremendous impact on the business from day one, and thanks to his leadership, we're already successfully executing on several key growth initiatives and strategies that he put in place. Furthermore, and most importantly, Carl perfectly aligns with our values-driven approach, and I can't wait to see what the future holds for us with him at the helm. As Executive Chair, I'll remain actively involved, but with an emphasis on my true passion as a technologist. Together with our co-president, Cheyenne Chakraborty, and the rest of our amazing product and technology organization, I will focus on guiding the future direction of Workday's applications and technology platform, while staying close to our workmates and our customers. How we evolve and expand the Workday platform in the coming years will be critical to our continued growth and scale. To help us do that, we have identified several core elements of our innovation strategy and that we plan on building out over the next 12 to 18 months. The first is a continued focus on evolving our financial management and HCM applications so that we can further empower the offices of finance and HR to optimize their two most important assets, their people and their money. Next is AI. Fueled by our 10-year head start and unique approach to building AI directly into the core, we will continue to responsibly deliver new ML models that solve real business problems for our customers and enable their employees. We'll also incorporate high-value generative AI capabilities to enhance search, understand historical context, make recommendations, and create content. Additionally, I'm incredibly excited about bringing higher score into the fold and how we'll further strengthen our overall AI capabilities. A third is industry, with an emphasis on deepening our offerings in retail and hospitality, education and government, along with financial services, healthcare, professional services, and tech and media. Extensibility is another important focus area so that we can enable IT teams to build and maintain integrations between Workday and third-party systems, ultimately extending the value of our platform. Our new Xtend AI Gateway, which we announced at Rising last year, is a perfect example of the type of work we are focused on here. Fifth is experiences. Delivering persona-tailored experiences empowers high-performing employees and teams for maximum productivity. Manager Insights Hub and Flex Teams, which we also unveiled at Rising, are just a few of the ways we've already been delivering enhanced experiences for managers. The final area of investment is security and resiliency, which is foundational to everything we do. With more than 10,000 organizations depending on Workday, to help run their businesses, it's essential that we design to protect the resilience and performance of critical processes, safeguard against the growing number of global cybersecurity threats, and increase our investment in public cloud offerings to drive greater performance, scalability, and security for our customers. We're also investing in our long-term innovation strategy by continuing to strengthen our product and technology leadership team. I'm pleased to share that David Summers has been appointed as our new Chief Product Officer and will lead development across our full suite of products. David, who will continue to report into Cheyenne, has been instrumental in leading our HR product strategy and development the last few years, and I'm excited that he will be helping to lead our efforts to build out the capabilities of Workday's full product portfolio. As I think back to our early days, it's incredible to see the growth and scale we've been able to achieve. When our customers first went live in 2007, we offered a few different products. Today, we offer a full platform that helps our customers transform how they manage their people and their money. Additionally, we now have more than 5,400 core HCM and finance customers, more than 65 million users under contract, and process over 800 billion transactions per year. I'm proud of the company we've built and the continued value and impact that we deliver for our customers. In closing, I want to extend my deepest thanks to our nearly 19,000 workmates around the world for finishing our fiscal year 2024 in such a strong fashion. Workday's future is incredibly bright, and I'm energized to work alongside them, Carl, and the rest of our leadership team to help drive Workday forward. With that, I'll hand it over to Zane. Over to you, Zane.
spk02: Thanks, Anil, and thank you to everyone for joining today's call. As Colin and Neil mentioned, Q4 marked a solid close to FY24, with momentum building across our key investment initiatives. We enter FY25 well-positioned to deliver another year of durable subscription revenue growth, coupled with expanding margins. Turning to results, subscription revenue in Q4 was $1.76 billion, up 18%. and full-year FY24 subscription revenue was $6.6 billion, growing 19%. Professional services revenue was $162 million in the quarter and $656 million for the year. Total revenue in Q4 was $1.92 billion, and for the full year was $7.26 billion, both growing 17%. U.S. revenue in Q4 totaled $1.44 billion, up 16%. and international revenue totaled $478 million, growth of 21%. For the year, U.S. revenue was $5.46 billion, and international revenue was $1.8 billion, both growing 17%. As we have highlighted, we see significant long-term international market opportunities, which we expect over time will become a more meaningful driver of our growth. Twelve-month subscription revenue backlog, or CRPO, was $6.62 billion at the end of Q4, representing growth of 20%, with the outperformance driven by higher-than-anticipated early renewals. Gross and net revenue retention rates remain over 95% and over 100%, respectively. Total subscription revenue backlog at the end of the quarter was $20.92 billion, up 27%. Our non-GAAP operating income for the fourth quarter was $461 million, resulting in a non-GAAP operating margin of 23.9%. Full-year non-GAAP operating income was $1.74 billion, reflecting a non-GAAP operating margin of 24%. Q4 GAAP net income benefit from a one-time $1.1 billion valuation allowance release related to our U.S. deferred tax assets. Q4 operating cash flow was $996 million, with approximately $100 million of the outperformance driven by strong in-quarter collections and earlier than expected payments. Full year operating cash flow was $2.15 billion, growth of 30%. During Q4, we repurchased $136 million of our shares at an average price of $253.85 per share. In addition, our board of directors has authorized a new $500 million share repurchase program. We ended the quarter with $7.8 billion in cash and marketable securities. We continue to invest in growth areas of the business, and we ended January with over 18,800 workmates around the globe. Now turning to guidance. We are reiterating our full year FY25 subscription revenue guidance of $7.725 billion to $7.775 billion, representing growth of 17% to 18%, which aligns with the preliminary outlook we provided last quarter. This guidance reflects our Q4 performance and our expectation for current macro conditions to persist throughout FY25. We expect Q1 FY25 subscription revenue to be $1.81 billion, representing 18% growth. I will highlight that Q1 benefits from an extra day of revenue recognition given the leap year. Normalized for this, our guided subscription revenue growth in Q1 is approximately 17%. For Q2, we expect subscription revenue to increase approximately 5% sequentially reflecting typical seasonality in the business when considering the leap year impact of Q1. We anticipate FY25 professional services revenue of approximately $630 to $640 million as we further leverage our partner ecosystem. For Q1, we expect professional services revenue of $163 million. Turning to backlog, As we've highlighted, CRPO growth is influenced by quarter-to-quarter variability in renewal volume, which can impact its growth in any particular quarter. In FY25, we expect CRPO growth to come off the elevated levels we experienced in FY24 as we lack periods of strong scheduled and early renewals. Given this variability, we expect CRPO to increase between 17.5% and 18.5% in Q1. We expect FY25 non-gap operating margins of approximately 24.5%. Our outlook contemplates incremental investments across our key growth initiatives while delivering continued margin expansion as we scale and optimize the business. For Q1, we expect non-gap operating margin of 24.5%. Gap operating margins for the first quarter and full year are expected to be approximately 24 and 21 percentage points lower than the non-gap margins, respectively. The FY25 non-gap tax rate is 19%. We expect FY25 operating cash flow of $2.25 billion, which is impacted by the $100 million of Q4 collections I called out, as well as an extra payroll payment we expect to make in FY25, given the leap year. In addition, we expect FY25 capital expenditures of approximately $330 million. Our FY25 outlook takes into account the acquisition of hired score, which is expected to close later this quarter. We're pleased with our execution in FY24, thanks to the support of our customers, partners, and workmates. With momentum building across our strategic growth areas, we enter FY25 focused on continuing to invest to drive long-term growth while also expanding margins. Let me turn it back over to Neil before we begin Q&A.
spk00: Thanks, Zane. In my new role, this will be my last regularly scheduled earnings call as I fully hand over the reins to the great Carl and Zane. It's been a pleasure getting to know so many of you over the years, and I wanted to give a special thank you to Mark Murphy, Brent Thill, Pat Walravens, Kirk Maturne, and John DeFucci, who have all been covering Workday since our IPO in 2012. And also to Cash Rangan, who I'm sure wanted to cover us back then, but couldn't because his wife was a workmate at the time. Okay, with that, operator, let's go to the Q&A.
spk08: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Again, we ask you to please limit your questions to one.
spk09: One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Kash Ranjan with Goldman Sachs.
spk08: Please proceed with your question.
spk12: I am almost fighting tears in my eyes, Anil. I was glad to be part of the family, part of the extended family since my wife is no longer a workmate, but we're still here with you guys. One question for Carl and team, maybe. You gave guidance for next year back in September at Rising. the economic environment, the outlook has generally gotten better, right? We're seemingly out of the fear of a recession and you've got to slew up new products. You've got an expanded partnership strategy. You've got a reseller partnership strategy as well. So with all these new dimensions, what is getting the growth rate of the company? Because the guidance is roughly the same as it was. I'm just trying to understand the level of conservatism vis-a-vis the levers that you have today, macro and micro included, that are definitely putting the company in a better position. Thank you so much.
spk03: Hi, Cash. Thanks for the question. Before I answer it, I just want to start by thanking our workmates, partners, and customers around the world for delivering a solid Q4 and an outstanding full FY24 performance. I could not be prouder of our execution, especially given the uncertainties of the environment at the start of FY24, and while embracing important changes we put in place here at Workday. The value proposition of our Workday platform continues to grow, which is evident from our results. The durability and diversity of our business delivers consistent, solid growth while also driving operating leverage. I am grateful to Anil for this incredible partnership that we have, and we can't wait to see what we're going to do together with the rest of our workmates this year. We are just getting started. Cash, to answer your question, as you know, we have really put in place a number of strategic growth initiatives starting last year, and all of them are taken into account when we think about our guidance for this full year. When you think about what we announced at Financial Analyst Day, we announced a three-year growth strategy that maintained pretty consistent growth over the next three years as we got larger, and we continued to expand our operating margin. Then at the end of Q3, we delivered a preliminary guidance for FY25, which we reiterated here on this call today. Our growth initiatives are paying off. We have really solid growth. We continue to expand margins. and we will continue to lean into those growth initiatives as we think about the rest of this year. So we're pretty proud that we're maintaining the growth rate we have and still expanding margins, and it's because of those strategic initiatives that you mentioned that we are leaning into.
spk09: Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Mark Murphy with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
spk11: Thank you very much. First off, Anil, I wanted to thank you for everything over so many years and to let you know that I'm incredibly grateful. Carl, I wanted to ask you, it feels, you and or Anil, I should say, it feels like Workday has been quietly gaining a reputation as a lighthouse for AI and you're focusing on the safe handling of all this data and not overcharging. As you As you introduce these products in the upcoming release that you mentioned, what type of productivity boost are you expecting to achieve for an HR practitioner? And I'm just wondering, is it strongest in the talent areas of skills and hiring, which I think you're mentioning more, or do you think it's going to be more broadly applicable in other areas like budgeting and supply chain and so on and so forth? Thank you.
spk00: Maybe I'll just take the high level and I'll turn it over to Carl. You know, AI is going to be important across all those applications, but the first area that we've seen quite a bit of interest and traction has been on the talent management side, both through our talent optimization and skills cloud products and now through the acquisition of Hired Score. It's a natural area for AI to showcase. But as you think about an area like budgeting, hugely power to think about effectively a co-pilot driving smarter and smarter plans automatically for you, and being able to re-plan on almost an instantaneous basis. And the world is so dynamic right now, it's really what you need. So in terms of productivity, I'll let Carl talk about it.
spk03: Yeah, thanks. Mark, I do think the first place we're seeing true productivity gains is around what I would just describe as talent acquisition. And when you think about, you know, the addition of hired score that we just acquired, along with our recruiting platform, our talent optimization platform, and our candidate engagement platform, it gives us the ability to deliver a full suite for talent acquisition around how we identify talent, how we engage with them. how we source or recruit them, and then how we retain them for internal mobility. So I am really confident in our ability to deliver a strong ROI to the recruiting and talent organizations with us having what I think now is one of the best full platform suites for talent acquisition going forward.
spk09: Thank you very much. Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Keith Weiss with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your questions.
spk05: Excellent. Thank you guys for taking the question. And Neil, congratulations on the new responsibilities and great job on building a great company. My question is for Zane, actually. And it's, I think, more about sort of guidance. This quarter, subscription revenues was about $5 million ahead of your guidance. I think that's probably the smallest beat that we've ever seen from Workday in terms of subscription revenues. It seems like there's a lot of dynamics going on with early renewals and like how that impacts the RPO. Was there any impact on subscription revenues or anything that can help us understand sort of the skinnier than typical beat in terms of subscription revenues that we saw in the current quarter?
spk02: Sure, Keith. Yeah, I mean, subscription revenues came in, you know, obviously ahead of our guide. And, you know, as you point out, still ahead of where the street was. You know, I'll point out fourth quarter is a big quarter for us, and we had a really busy January. So some of that may have been reflected in the quarter as far as if you think about just linearity throughout the quarter. So there was, you know, some impact into the quarter. But, you know, as we look to FY25 and we think about the buildup heading into FY25, as you pointed out, we've seen good CRPO growth there. through all of last year and as i point out in my prepared remarks we don't actually anticipate that level of growth above the subscription revenue growth that we've seen just because of the renewal activity on both the scheduled side as well as the early renewal activity so There's some of that built into the guide. There's nothing that I would point out in the fourth quarter other than it was a solid fourth quarter. We feel really good about the momentum we have in the business. We feel good about the outlook. As Carl pointed out, it's consistent with the outlook and the guide that we gave a quarter ago. So we feel great about where we're sitting right now. I will also point out the aggregate level of CRPO. If you look at that versus the upcoming guide for the year, we're actually at a slightly higher level than where we were for the same time of the prior year, so the same time last year. So, again, we feel like we're very well positioned heading into the year. It was a good fourth quarter, and we're all ready to execute into FY25.
spk09: Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Kirk Materni with Evercore. Please proceed with your questions.
spk10: Yeah, thanks very much. And I'll echo my thanks and best wishes on your new role. Yeah, I think my questions for Carl, Carl, obviously, platform deals this year seems to seem to have been a pretty big lever for you all, especially in the mid market. Can you just talk about your confidence level in the pipeline around, you know, platform deals as we go into fiscal 25? And just sort of what that looks like? Thanks.
spk03: Yeah, sure. Thanks for the question, Kirk. As we've said for the last year, we are focusing on delivering a full platform solution to our customers, both HCM and financials. And we have seen a nice uptick in our selling motion there in the medium enterprise area. We're seeing a big uptick, so our full platform sales are going up, but we're also seeing in the upmarket as well in large enterprise. And then there are certain industries where we see it like state and local government. We see it in healthcare. Our healthcare business had a really big quarter at 50% growth year over year. So it is definitely a selling motion we're leaning into. And I think, quite frankly, we're just getting started. Our financials platform continues to gain momentum in the market. We're able to sell FINS back into our existing HCM customers, so they become full platform customers. In net new sales, a lot of them are full platform from day one. So the full platform approach we're taking is clearly paying dividends and driving our growth. We will also be starting next week. We'll be transitioning. In the past, we've talked about some pricing and packaging where we'll be selling more suites and bundles. That's something we'll be educating our field on next week. It's been in pilot. The pilot's gone well. And we're quite hopeful about how we're going to change pricing and packaging to encourage customers to have an easier way to buy a full platform from Workday.
spk09: Thank you. Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Brent Phil with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: Anil, I'm glad you had that meal at the Truckee Diner. I'm sure you're thankful for that. Thanks again for everything. Carl, I think just back to Keith's question, when we see 22% backlog in Q3 going to 20% in Q4 and down to 18% in Q1 on the guides, I think everyone appreciates, you know, the steps and initiatives you're taking, but the growth numbers are kind of working in the wrong direction relative to, you know, the initiatives that you're taking and realize that perhaps this takes some time to play out. But I think everyone's trying to understand, you know, the environment's getting better, yet the backlog numbers seem to be declining quarter over quarter and then in Q1. So I'm just curious if you can help bridge what's going on.
spk02: Brent, I'll start. This is Zane. We're very pleased with the backlog build. As we pointed out, we focus primarily on subscription revenue build. Backlog is influenced by not only scheduled renewals, but also this early renewal activity, which we now lap. If you recall, we started talking about that a year ago. You know, again, the 20% backlog growth that we saw this quarter actually came in, if you recall, about a point higher than even our expectations. And a big contributor of that was the pull-in that we saw through this early renewal activity. We would expect backlog to have some variability on a quarter-to-quarter basis as you think about how you build backlog and how it's aligned with not only new ACV growth, but the scheduled renewal growth. So it's coming in, I'd say, very close to our expectation. As we point out and as I mentioned over the last number of calls, we don't expect to see in particular with CRPO the sustained growth level coming in higher than subscription revenue growth in perpetuity. And we feel really good about the aggregate. If you look at the aggregate CRPO level as a percent of the guide, you can see it's actually at a higher level than what it was last year. So we feel really good about the build. But as I caution, there will be some variability, as we expect, on a quarter-to-quarter basis.
spk03: Yeah, also, Zane, I just wanted to touch on the renewals dynamic. It's a conversation we've had now, I guess, for our fifth earnings call in a row here. But it is, again, early renewals is an output of customer demand. And when customers want to buy product from us and consolidate onto our best-of-breed platform, as opposed to having all these – or best-of-sweet platform versus all these best-of-breed solutions – it drives early renewals. So our teams don't get paid on early renewals. It's basically customer demand in early renewals is an output, right? It's not something we go out and focus on. So we're very pleased with the demand we see from customers, both net new and our customer base and selling back into them, which does drive early renewals. But that can vary, Zane, as you know, right, in any given quarter.
spk09: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brad Sills with Bank of America.
spk08: Please proceed with your question.
spk15: Oh, great. Thank you so much, and congratulations, Anil, on your new role here. I wanted to ask one on the verticals here. It's a big focus. You've been talking about this for a couple years now. I know government, higher ed, healthcare, those have been relatively strong for quite some time. Can you give us a sense for which one in the other list, retail, hospitality, financials, tech and media, where you see some of the fruits of the efforts that you've been making here to build on the product and go to market where we could see some incremental strength in any of those verticals. Thank you.
spk03: Yeah, maybe I'll start, Doug, and then you can add if you don't mind. I think the industry strategy or the vertical strategy we have here at Workday plays nicely with, if you will, our segment strategy. That's why we talk a lot about the diversity of our business. But to your point, healthcare continues to be a very large segment for us we talked about retail and hospitality last quarter was the second if you will vertical across a billion dollars in ARR we talked about the continued momentum all around higher ed in full platform sales there and then also around you know financial services we didn't call it out and specifically in the earnings call as a vertical but we had a number of very significant financial sales back into existing HCM customers around financial services So that was a great indicator that full platform is resonating around financial services as well. So our industry strategy is playing out, and we saw another really strong quarter across those key markets. Doug, I don't know, maybe you have some additional color you'd like to add.
spk16: Sure. Hi, Brad. Nice to speak with you. So in addition to the usual suspects of sort of those top industries that you excluded from the question, Two that stand out, professional services. I think we even highlighted the Randstad win, but we're seeing industries like professional services or business services where you bring people and money together are the perfect sort of scenario for a full platform opportunity for Workday. So we saw really good performance there in Q4. And then the second, which doesn't really sort of capture maybe the attention it deserves at times, which is medium enterprise platform deals. cuts across all of the industries you mentioned and includes the ones that, again, are the healthcare, FSI, public sector that you know well from us. So those are the two that I call out, Carl.
spk15: Yeah, thanks, Doug. Great. Thank you so much.
spk09: Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Zukin with Wolf Research. Please proceed with your question.
spk07: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to maybe ask just a question. First, maybe in terms of the quarter itself, the fourth quarter, if you kind of dissect the large enterprise fraction and activity versus kind of your fraction activity in the mid-market, how would you say this fourth quarter trended versus previous? And then maybe, Zane, on the guide, is there any way to dimensionalize how much higher source or higher score, sorry, revenue you're including for the full year, just given you're reiterating a prior guide now with Zane? with some prior revenue?
spk02: Sure. Yeah, I'll start on the inclusion. It's considered part of the prior guide. It's not a meaningful part of the total revenue guide. And we obviously include it in our cost base as well. So not meaningful when you think about the guide for this year, but obviously very strategic for us. And we're very excited about what it will contribute beyond FY25.
spk03: Yeah, and on the LE versus the medium enterprise, I'll let Doug start, and then I'll add some color.
spk16: So I'd say that Q4 was very similar to Q3 in terms of ME, LE both hitting really solid growth rates. And I draw the distinction between Q3 and Q4 where ME really snapped back. The first half of the year, I think we had even called this out in previous earnings calls, we saw certain industries within medium enterprise have some softness. But in Q3, and this held true in Q4 as well, medium enterprise, particularly medium enterprise net new, snapped back. So we saw really good growth dynamics in both ME and LE for Q4.
spk03: Yeah, and on the LE side, Doug, as we said in a pair of remarks and just, you know, we answered in the prior question, we had a really strong quarter again in healthcare, a good state and local government as well, and then higher ed. There are three strong categories, right, that actually fall into our large enterprise business that once again had really strong performance in the quarter.
spk09: Perfect. Thank you, Dean. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Turman with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
spk13: Hey, great. Thanks. I appreciate you taking the question. Maybe one for Zane on margin. You're up to 24% operating margin here, guiding for 24.5% as a starting point for next year. So within striking distance of the low end of that longer-term target range you framed out. I just would love to hear you spend some more time on how you're approaching the balance between growth and margin from here. And then on free cash flow, appreciate the Q4 commentary on the outperformance there. it looks like the initial fiscal 25 free cash flow outlook is relatively consistent with fiscal 2.4. So outside of that, for QCom, just anything else you can add on what might be the puts and takes on free cash flow is helpful. Thank you.
spk02: Sure, Michael. Happy to talk a bit about margin. You know, I'd say it's consistent with the uh... conversation we've had uh... you know candidly for all of f white twenty four bit as we outlined at our financial analyst a Carl and the team have really taken, I think, a thoughtful approach across those investment buckets that we've highlighted to everyone, including our international expansion, the focus on FINS, on AI, and leaning into partnerships. And obviously, as we've highlighted this quarter, also highlighting organic growth and M&A growth. And we've really balanced the investments that we're making and contemplated that with the outlook and the buildup for FY21, sorry, FY25, but also aligning for our longer-term outlook and continue to focus on not only investing in the right areas, but obviously that driving long-term growth and contributing to margin expansion over that period of time. So, It's a balance that we continue to focus on. The team here are looking at each of those investment areas and categories and thinking about how to adjust those dynamically where we see opportunities around the globe, quite frankly, and leaning in where we can. And at the same time, as you would expect us, we continue to focus on being more efficient as an organization and thinking about our global presence and focusing on those efficiencies so that we can not only scale the organization, but reinvest in some of these key areas. And that's I think, represented in the outlook that we have, both the top-line growth and then the margin expansion coming in nicely aligned with the midterm outlook that we provided at Financial Analyst Day. And I would say operating cash flow and then free cash flow aligns with that. I highlighted the fact that in FY24, we clearly benefited from some strong collections and early collections. We don't necessarily anticipate that reoccurring next year, and we factored that into the guide, into our OCF guide for FY25. So we're pleased with the growth there. If you adjust for The $100 million as well as the extra pay period that just so happens to align because of the leap year, you get back to OCF growth that I believe is in line with the business growth. So we feel really good about the cash growth in the business and obviously feel very good about the top-line growth and the margin expansion that we're seeing.
spk09: Thanks very much. Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Carl Kirstead with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
spk14: Okay, great. Maybe I'll direct this to Zane and Zane back on the CRPO. So a two-parter, for the 20% CRPO growth that you put up for the January quarter, are you able to disclose what the early renewal impact was? I think three months ago you had mentioned that it was a little bit more than a point. I'm curious what it was for January. And then when we look forward, just to clarify, is the guidance for 18% CRPO growth for April Have you now fully lapped this early renewal dynamic such that we should think about that being more of a normalized or clean compare, or does this dynamic still represent a headwind that maybe in a couple of quarters you work through and you get a bit of a recovery in the year-over-year growth? I'd love to understand that without obviously asking for specific guidance. Thank you.
spk02: Sure. Yeah, of course, Carl. Yeah, as you mentioned in the fourth quarter, the 20% included about a point and a half of early renewal activity, some of which we expected. But with the growth that we saw, you know, obviously just in ACV growth, as well as that early renewal activity, it came in ahead of our guide. You know, I mentioned it came in, I believe, a point ahead of our guide. So we were very pleased with the CRPO growth there. in the quarter, but also point out we're still focused on subscription revenue. We are lapping a period of higher than traditional growth tied to these early renewals. As I mentioned, I believe, at our Financial Analyst Day where I gave an example, at times, duration and the level of renewal activity, both scheduled and early, can have a fairly significant impact on that CRPO growth. So as we look at our scheduled renewals from FY24 to FY25, we actually continue to see nice growth. You know, if you look at it on an annualized basis, But I'll point out, you do get some variability on a quarter-to-quarter basis, which is why we're now actually even including a range into our expectation heading into Q1. So you lap some of that early renewal activity that we've clearly benefited from, but we don't initially anticipate that growth that we've seen in at least the prior number of quarters to continue at that rate. And candidly, we're thrilled with the increase that we see in CRPO. But again, that's not the only driver to our forecasted subscription revenue growth, which is the key area that we focus on. So netting it out, we feel good about our CRPO aggregate levels, and we would expect to see some variability, which is included in our first quarter guide. Got it. Thank you, Zane. Sure. Thank you.
spk09: Thank you.
spk08: We will now take two more questions. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: My question, Carl, you guys hired a lot of sales reps focused on selling core fins over the last few quarters. Can you just give us a sense of how you're feeling about ramp to productivity times, how we should be thinking about kind of where we are in year over year growth and fully ramped sales capacity into the new year and Just how you're thinking about sales hiring plans through fiscal 25.
spk03: Yeah, sure. Thanks for the question, Derek. So you are right. Last year at this time, we announced we were doubling down our efforts on the go-to-market side around financials. And that included hiring out a whole bunch of new sales reps, which we did. And that continued throughout Q4. And what we do is every quarter we look at our key metrics on how we're performing against that investment. We look at the pipeline. We look at new logo wins we said was up pretty significantly here in Q4. We look at our competitive win rates, which continue to pick up throughout the year on financials. We also take a look at new ACB, which we said was up year over year on financials. And then The drag effect on all of that is full platform sales, which were also up in Q4 on a year-over-year basis. So we are pleased with the investments we've made on the go-to-market side around financials, and we will continue to lean into that as these people become more and more productive. If you think about it, a lot of them have been on board only six or nine or even three months, so we haven't seen the impact of the full investment at this time. It's also important to note that we're investing in financials not just directly in our own sales force, but how we partner with our ecosystem, and also we continue to invest in the product side of the business around financials so that we have a much more global and localized platform you know, around the world because we see that as a big opportunity as well. So net-net, we're very happy with the investment. We'll continue to lean in. We think it's a huge market opportunity. We've said many a times only 20% or 25% of workloads have moved to the cloud. And then if you combine that with our competition, pushing customers to a new platform, it's a rich opportunity for us going forward.
spk09: Great. Thank you. Thank you.
spk08: And our last question comes from the line of Brent Graceland with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Thank you. Good afternoon. I get the noise here and renewal timing issues impacting CRPO. Wanted to double click into subscription revenue growth. We've seen six quarters of slowing growth in the subscription business. You're actually guiding to growth to accelerate for the first time here into Q1. What is driving the optimism around this reacceleration and subscription growth? And maybe you could provide a little color around the pipeline visibility this year versus going into last year. Thanks.
spk02: Sure. I'll start and then let Carl give a little more insight into the pipeline. I did point out that subscription revenue growth heading into Q1 does benefit from the additional day tied to the leap year. And as you would expect, heading into the next quarter, we have good visibility into the pipeline. We also have good visibility into the aggregate level of CRPO. So we feel good about what we've done. presented for not only the quarter, but also the subscription revenue guide that we've given for the year, which aligns with our overall midterm outlook. So, you know, we believe that between the pipeline and the CRPO, you know, we feel good about that revenue guide.
spk03: Yeah, and on us being, you know, cautiously optimistic on the year and why we provided the type of guidance we did for both Q1 and in the full year FY25, it's because the investments that we put in place last year are really coming to fruition for us, whether it's in the financials platform that I just articulated. The partners are really starting to bring us new opportunities, and we're leveraging them for co-innovation. Our international focus, we talked about it over the last year, and all the new talent we brought, we're seeing consistent and predictable results out of Europe. And we had a great quarter in APAC, and even Japan did a really nice performance for us. And then on AI, we think we've got the most compelling AI platform in our market, and we continue to organically innovate there, and we're doing inorganic innovation like we did with HiredScore. So all of that gives us cautious optimism as we think about both Q1 and FY25.
spk01: Helpful color.
spk09: Appreciate it. Thank you.
spk08: And ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation on today's conference. I'll now turn it over to Mr. Essenbach for final comments.
spk03: Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining today's call, and a special thanks to our workmates, customers, and partners around the globe that continue to fuel Workday's success. Q4 was another solid quarter, highlighted by the durable, mission-critical nature of our business and reinforcing the exciting growth opportunity we have ahead. We are well positioned and focused on getting off to a good start here in FY25. With that, I'll hand the call back over to the operator to close today's call, and I hope everyone has a great evening.
spk08: And this concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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