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spk05: Good morning and welcome to Wave Life Sciences' fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. As a reminder, this call is being recorded in webcast. I'll now turn the call over to Kate Roush, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you, Operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our recent business progress and review Wave's fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results. Joining me today with prepared remarks are Dr. Paul Bono, President and Chief Executive Officer, Kyle Moran, Chief Financial Officer, and Anne-Marie Lee-Kwai Chung, Chief Development Officer. The press release issued this morning is available on the Investor section of our website, www.wavelifesciences.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that discussions during this conference call will include forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements. The factors that could cause actual results to differ are discussed in the press release issued today and in our SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement for any reason. I'd now like to turn the call over to Paul.
spk08: Thanks, Kate. Good morning, and thank you all for joining us on today's call. I will open with comments on our recent progress and continued execution on our strategy. Next, Anne-Marie will provide an update on our three ongoing clinical trials. Before opening up the call for questions, Kyle will review our financials. Chandra and Ginny will also be available for questions. 2023 was a year of execution and tremendous progress for WAVE. Our achievements demonstrate the far-reaching potential of our multimodal platform to reimagine what's possible for human health and pioneer medicines that truly change people's lives. We are leading the field in multiple areas, We are innovating in obesity with our INHIB and E program, and today are announcing that we've accelerated development to initiate our INHIB and E clinical trial in the first quarter of 2025. We are also leading the field in RNA editing, having brought the first-ever RNA editing candidate into human trials last year. In DMD, our novel chemistries have dramatically improved pharmacology of exon-skipping oligonucleotides, translating to best-in-class muscle distribution and skipping with WVE and 531. In HD, we've pioneered allele-selective silencing, another first for the field, and an approach that has the potential to overcome issues experienced by pan-silencing approaches. We expect meaningful catalysts throughout this year for all of these programs, setting 2024 up to be a significant year for WAVE. I'll start with our ongoing clinical program of WVE-006 for alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency, or AATD. Our restoration clinical program for WVE-006 is well underway, and we have a pipeline of RNA editing programs being advanced behind it. We are pioneering these first-in-class medicines across protein restoration targets such as AATB, as well as mRNA upregulation targets, which I'll discuss further in a moment. WVE-006 is the industry's first-ever clinical RNA editing candidate. which aims to correct the AATD-causing Z mutation to increase circulating levels of wild-type AAT protein and reduce mutant AAT protein aggregation in the liver. 006 addresses the root cause of AATD to provide a solution to patients with lung disease, liver disease, or both. The current standard of care is weekly IV augmentation therapy and limited to treating lung disease, while siRNA treatments in development are confined to treating liver disease. with potential to exacerbate lung injury. By targeting RNA, OO6 differs from DNA editing technologies that rely on hyperactive, exogenously delivered artificial enzymes that can result in irreversible collateral bystander edits in indels. In fact, in preclinical studies, the majority of edits observed using DNA-based editing were bystander edits that yielded isoforms of AAT protein with lower functional activity, while indels have the potential to create loss-of-function variants. our unique fully chemically modified oligonucleotides are able to effectively recruit endogenous ADAR enzymes. OO6 has demonstrated potent and durable editing in preclinical studies, resulting in AAT protein levels of up to 30 micromolar, exceeding the thresholds for both MZ and healthy MM populations. And we confirm the functionality of this protein with neutrophil elastase inhibition assay. Additionally, we saw decreases of lobular inflammation and reduction of liver aggregates. WVE-006 also prevents an increase in mitoses or turnover of hepatocytes, indicating improved hepatic survival. OO6 contains a galnet conjugate, which is highly specific and an elegant delivery tool that is well-validated with multiple approved silencing therapeutics on the market. When compared to other approaches that rely on lipid nanoparticles and IV deliveries, WVE-006 offers the ease and convenience of subcutaneous dosing without sacrificing potency and durability. As Anne-Marie will speak to in further detail shortly, dose escalation is currently ongoing in Healthy Volunteers, and I'm happy to report that safety, tolerability, and PK are translating as expected. We remain on track to deliver proof-of-mechanism data from restoration to inpatients with AATD later this year. Success for 006 would not only meaningfully de-risk our AATD program, but would also serve as proof of concept for our growing pipeline of fully-owned editing candidates, which are designed to either correct or upregulate mRNA. We shared in vivo data for several of these targets across a range of both rare and prevalent diseases last year, and we expect to share new preclinical data on our advancing RNA editing programs during 2024. GSK was early to recognize the potential of RNA editing and our multimodal platform more broadly. Their leadership in respiratory medicine development and commercialization makes them an ideal partner for 006, and they continue to bring substantial value to WAVE through their significant investments in deep genetic insights. With the advancement into the clinic of 006, we achieved the first milestone payment for our collaboration. Additionally, we continue to advance our GSK research collaboration program. For these programs, Wave is eligible for potential milestone payments of up to $2.8 billion, as well as royalties on net sales. As a reminder, GSK pays 100% of the costs related to target validation of these partner programs. This collaboration is also expanding Wave's pipeline, as we are able to leverage GSK's genetically validated targets to advance fully-owned Wave programs. Inhibine E was the first target that we selected, and we have the opportunity to advance two additional programs. As with Inhibine E, we are focused on high-impact targets that are based on strong clinical genetics, novel biology, with meaningful, measurable biomarkers, and with first or best-in-class potential. Moving on to Inhibine E, we are rapidly advancing this program for the treatment of obesity and are excited to announce today that we have selected our lead clinical candidate well ahead of our prior expectations. This accomplishment clearly demonstrates the speed and translational power of our siRNA capability. Our candidate is a GalNec siRNA that utilizes WAVE's next generation siRNA format and is designed to silence the inhibiting gene through RNA knockdown. This approach would induce weight loss, preserve muscle, and restore and maintain a healthy metabolic profile. There is strong human genetic evidence supporting this target. Inhibited loss of function heterozygous carriers identified in large genetic databases have a favorable cardiometabolic profile, including reduced abdominal obesity and reduced odds of type 2 diabetes and coronary artery disease. Our program is designed to recapitulate this protective phenotype, which would fill a large unmet need in obesity. Currently, there are more than 174 million people in the U.S. and Europe alone with obesity and other metabolic disorders. While GLP-1s are rapidly becoming the standard of care for weight loss, these therapies come with several limitations, namely loss of muscle mass, poor tolerability, and discontinuation rates as high as 68%. Our Inhibit E program has the potential to provide an optimal therapeutic approach for obesity without the limitations of GLP-1s. as well as to work complementary with this GLP-1 class. At our R&D day last year, we presented the industry's first in vivo data supporting preclinical proof of concepts for this target. With our first generation siRNA format, we showed that silencing inhibity in the DIO mouse model led to significantly lower body weight, substantial reduction of visceral fat as compared to control. We also shared data on our next generation siRNA formats which led to significantly more potent and durable knockdown in preclinical studies. Today, we are announcing the selection of our lead clinical candidate, which utilizes this next-generation siRNA format. Our inhibiny program demonstrated highly potent silencing with an ED50 of less than 1 mg per kg in the DIO mouse model, and durable silencing followed one low single-digit dose which supports the potential for subcutaneous dosing intervals of every six months or annually. We also observed weight loss and reductions in fat mass with a preferential effect on visceral fat, and importantly, these reductions in fat and visceral fat came with no loss of muscle mass. These data reinforced the potential both for inducing healthy weight loss as well as the potential for long-term maintenance use. Compared with current standard of care, GLP-1s, which require weekly dosing, a therapeutic agent that is dosed once or twice a year and induces fat loss with muscle sparing, would transform the treatment paradigm for obesity. As the inhibiting mechanism of action is distinct from GLP-1s, there is an opportunity to use inhibiting the siRNA both in combination as well as to transition patients off of GLP-1s to maintain weight loss. With the selection of our candidate, we now expect to submit a CTA for this program as early as the end of 2024 and expect to initiate our clinical trial in the first quarter of 2025. We believe clinical proof of concept can be achieved with a single dose of inhibin-e siRNA due to its potency and long duration of effect. We expect to share more preclinical data on our inhibin-e program later this year. Turning to DMD and HD, we are on track to deliver clinical data from both programs this year. In DMD, we are advancing our potentially registrational FORWARD53 clinical trial of WVEN531 in boys with DMD. Our goal in FORWARD53 is to demonstrate that we can deliver endogenous functional or Becker-like dystrophin and thus provide a meaningful clinical benefit for patients amenable to exon 53 skipping. There remain significant scientific gaps on the functional benefit of micro or mini dystrophin. There is an urgent need to deliver more therapeutic options to patients, including achieving better access to heart and diaphragm, two areas where we have seen substantial distribution in our preclinical studies, including NHPs. Clinical data thus far for N531 positions it as potentially best in class, including industry-leading exon skipping of 53%, muscle tissue concentrations of 42,000 nanograms per gram, and a half-life that supports the potential for monthly dosing. We are also the first to show evidence of uptake in myogenic stem cells, which Anne-Marie will discuss further. We remain on track to deliver 24-week dystrophin protein expression data in the third quarter of this year. In HD, we are advancing WVE003, our first-in-class allele selective therapeutic. OO3 is designed to reduce mutant Huntington protein while also sparing healthy wild-type Huntington protein, which is critical to the health and function of neurons. Having the ability to preserve this important protein is a clear advantage over pan-silencing approaches that non-selectively lower mutant and wild-type protein, especially as HD patients already start with a lower wild-type reserve. We have demonstrated the successful translation of our compelling preclinical data to the clinic with reduction of mutant Huntington and preservation of wild type after a single dose in humans. We anticipate building on this data with the first multi-dose data from our SelectHD clinical trial, which is on track for the second quarter. And so, with Inhibit E program advancing towards the clinic, data readouts from DMD and HD expected in the coming quarters, and RNA editing proof of mechanism data for AATB expected this year, 2024 will be a breakout year for WAVE. Now to discuss the progress that we've made on our clinical programs and our expectations for data this year, I'd like to turn the call over to Anne-Marie.
spk03: Anne-Marie. Thank you, Paul. 2024 should certainly be an exciting year for WAVE, and I look forward to the many milestones we have on the horizon. I'll start with WAVE-006, our Gall-Nut Conjugated AMA, or RNA-Editing Oligonucleotide for AATD. We're advancing wave 006 in our ongoing restoration clinical program. The program is comprised of two interconnected portions, restoration one for healthy volunteers and restoration two in AATD for patients who have the homozygous PIZV mutation. In addition to generating P safety and PK data, restoration one is designed to rapidly establish a dose level and regimen that's expected to engage targets. In restoration two, we will be taking multiple assessments of serum MAAT through the low, medium, and high dose cohorts, which will enable us to quickly detect the potential presence of wild-type healthy MAAT protein in serum, representing achievement of proof of mechanism. Remember, these easy patients have never made MAAT protein. So the presence of any MAAT would demonstrate that wave 006 is successfully editing RNA. We are progressing well in restoration one. Dose escalation is ongoing. Pharmacokinetic data is as expected and blinded safety data has been encouraging. We're on track to initiate the restoration two study and deliver proof of mechanism data from restoration two in patients with AATD this year. Turning to DMD, this week our team attended the 2024 MDA Clinical and Scientific Conference, where we shared posters on our clinical data from Part A, including the first evidence of myogenic stem cell or satellite cell uptake. Myogenic stem cells are the progenitor cells for new myoblasts, and we're not aware of any other clinical data for exon skippers or gene therapy that have been able to demonstrate myogenic stem cell uptake. The DMD community is excited about these data and what they may mean for their boys. Our posters also highlighted our industry leading mean 53% exon skipping, which was driven by muscle tissue concentrations of 42 micrograms per gram or 42,000 nanograms per gram, which is thousands fold above what other exon skipping companies have reported. These data give us confidence in achieving best-in-class dystrophin protein expression in our ongoing, potentially registrational Phase II clinical trial, FORWARD53. FORWARD53 is an open-label trial which is currently evaluating 10-mg-mg doses of N531 administered every other week. The trial is powered to evaluate functional endogenous dystrophin expression after 24 and 48 weeks of treatment, which will be the trial's primary endpoints. The trial will also evaluate digital and functional endpoints, pharmacokinetics, and safety and tolerability. All three is fully enrolled with 11 boys and dosing continues. We remain on track to deliver potentially registrational 24-week dystrophin expression data in the third quarter, which, if positive, would support our plans to file for accelerated approval in the U.S. These data would also accelerate our clinical development plans to build a wholly owned multi-exon DMD franchise beyond exon 53. As you may recall, we've generated data on compounds that would together address up to 40% of the DMD population, all of which utilize RPN chemistry and have demonstrated high levels of skipping and protein restoration in vivo studies. Moving now to HD, WAVE003 is our first-in-class allele selective candidate for Huntington's disease, or HD. We believe WAVE003 offers an optimal treatment approach for HD, as it aims to reduce the toxic mucin Huntington protein while preserving the healthy wild-type Huntington protein, which is increasingly becoming an area of focus due to its critical role in neuronal function. Recently, a new manuscript by Dr. Jeff Carroll shared new preclinical data demonstrating that complete loss of Huntington in mice is associated with progressive subcortical calcification and neurodegeneration, which underlines the need for a cautious approach in pan-silencing studies. Just last week, we attended the annual CHDI HD Therapeutics Conference, And we heard firsthand from KOLs about their enthusiasm for WAVE-003 and its first-in-class allele-selective design. Another key theme was the growing support for shorter, more efficient development paths to registration, specifically those predicated on MRI imaging, for example, chordate volume loss. Imaging biomarkers such as these correlate well with clinical outcomes and are sensitive enough to enable highly efficient studies to allow us to establish the biological plausibility of the benefit of mutant hunting to knock down with wild-type sparing. We were excited by the energy in the HD community and discussions around how they can advocate for accelerated registrational paths if a sponsor demonstrates supportive data. Our ongoing select HD study is evaluating wave 003 in 24 HD patients that have received doses of 30 milligrams of 003 versus placebo every eight weeks. We are on track to report data from this multi-dose cohort with extended follow-up, along with all single-dose data in the second quarter. With multi-dosing, we're looking to replicate the promising single-dose data showing durable mutant Huntington knockdown of at least 20% with preservation of wild-type proteins. These data will form the basis of decision-making for advancement of this program, including supporting an opt-in package for data. We're actively planning the next steps that pending positive data would enable an efficient and accelerated path to bring wave 003 to patients. And with that, I'd like to turn the call to our CFO, Kyle Moran, to provide an update on our financials.
spk09: Thanks, Anne-Marie. Our net loss was $16.3 million and $57.5 million for the fourth quarter and full year 2023 periods, respectively. Our net loss significantly improved over the prior year periods, primarily due to the substantial revenue earned from our collaboration partners. During the fourth quarter, we recognized revenue of $18.9 million under our collaboration with GSK, which became effective in January 2023. We also recognize revenue of $10.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 under our collaboration with Takeda, as compared to $1.2 million in the prior year quarter. Research and development expenses were $34.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, as compared to $31.1 million for the prior year quarter. This increase was primarily driven by increased external expenses related to our DMD and AATB programs, as well as increases in compensation in compensation-related costs. These increases were partially offset by the decreased spend on our discontinued C-9 program. Our G&A expenses were $13.7 million, essentially flat compared to the prior year quarter. We ended the fourth quarter with $200.4 million in cash and cash equivalents. Subsequent to year end, we also received $20 million in a milestone payment for TSK, and $14 million in net proceeds from the full exercise of the green shoe option for our December 2023 financing. We expect that our current cash and cash equivalents will be sufficient to fund operations into the fourth quarter of 2025. As a reminder, we do not include any future milestones or opt-in payments under our GSK or Takeda collaboration in our cash runway, but we do have the potential to receive meaningful near-term milestone payments in this year and beyond. I'll now turn the call back over to Paul for closing remarks.
spk08: Thank you, Kyle. As we look to the remainder of 2024, we are at a truly exciting inflection point with the opportunity to further validate our best-in-class platform in the clinic and unlock the broad potential of our pipeline. This year, we're on track to deliver three important clinical data readouts as well as advance our HIB&E program towards the clinic. And in summary, we plan to deliver the first-ever clinical proof of mechanism data for RNA editing with WBE006 this year and share new preclinical data on our advancing RNA editing programs. Submit a CTA for our inhibiting siRNA obesity program as early as the fourth quarter and initiate a clinical trial in the first quarter of 2025. Deliver data including dystrophin protein from our potentially registrational 453 clinical trial in the third quarter. and deliver HD data from the multi-dose select HD trial with extended follow-up along with all single-dose data in the second quarter. We look forward to sharing our progress with you along the way as we reimagine what's possible for patients and continue on our journey to building a leading RNA medicines company. And with that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Operator.
spk05: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered, you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press star one one again. We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster.
spk01: Our first question comes from Steve Seedhouse with Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk10: Hi, good morning. This is Timur Ivankov on for Steve. So we have a couple of questions for your AATD RNA editing. I think you mentioned you will be disclosing serum MAAT. So what level of MAAT are you targeting eventually since one of your competitors expects the target to achieve eventually healthy levels? Is that something you're looking at right now, or what is your expectation for the MAAT level? Thank you.
spk08: Henry, would you like to start? I don't know.
spk03: So I think the important point to recognize is that we're not delivering exogenous AAT replacement therapy. We're restoring wild-type healthy MAAT through RNA editing. And demonstration that that MAAT is functional is really the key. We're already in the ballpark of 11. We know that MZ patients have a lower normal limit of 11 with very low risk of clinical outcomes. And with the editing and restoring of the MAAT, we believe that patients will be able to respond in healthy patients.
spk08: I think just kind of stepping back as well, and as Anne-Marie said, the threshold that came out of 11 micromolar, because that was below the limit of the heterozygous patient, obviously the target of where you can get the correction. I think if we think about the range that we've already seen in preclinical studies, as we said earlier on the call, we're already achieving ranges that are both not only within the heterozygous, but also the healthy. And so I think we need to reframe how the RNA editing, and we should say the editing field thinks about protein levels versus, let's say, exogenous protein. So if you imagine exogenous protein, the concept of more and more was really born from that because you're putting an exogenous protein in, it's being depleted, and you're trying to stay at a threshold level for protection. If we're doing editing and already achieving the correction of the transcript at levels that would be equivalent to heterozygous patients or potentially healthy patients, then you've established a threshold for it. So 11 micromolar would establish at a lower limit, would establish a threshold of protection that's equivalent to these heterozygous patients with the knowledge that you've corrected the underlying genetics or you've corrected the transcript so that when these patients do need more proteins, they're able to produce more wild-type protein. And so it's a different dynamic at play in editing and correction than when one thinks about protein replacement. So I think there is still a lower limit of 11 micromolar. Our preclinical data has well surpassed that. As I said, it got to threshold levels of even healthy patients. But I think we need to shift from a more is more concept within editing once you've achieved those threshold levels. And then really it is about how to keep patients and save patients on these therapies. But we will be measuring both total AAT protein and an M-reset on the call, being able to look at M-AAT to look at that percentage of additive protein.
spk10: Okay, thank you very much for that. And we also have a question about the progress of the clinical study itself. Just in terms of what dose level have you completed in the healthy volunteers, and what dose do you actually need to complete before you can start dosing patients? And have you started screening AATD patients already?
spk03: Sure. Sorry, Paul. So, as you know, the Restoration 1 and Restoration 2 studies are interconnected. And in Restoration 1, in the healthy volunteers, we're progressing through the dosing as expected. with the aim of starting Restoration 2 at a therapeutically relevant level, and we're on track to do that with data from Restoration 2 for proof of mechanism expected this year.
spk08: I think what's important, and to add to that, as Anne-Marie said on the call earlier, I mean, it's important when you bring a new modality into the clinic, how is PK translated? And I think, as we said on prior calls and discussions that a key driver on that dose selection is going to be based on modeling. And I think what's encouraging is that modeling is sustaining in that healthy volunteer setting. So I think we're on track to deliver that.
spk10: Okay, great. Thank you very much.
spk01: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Salim Saeed with Mizuho.
spk05: Your line is open.
spk07: Hey, good morning, guys. Congrats on the progress, and enjoy the new website, Paul. I guess on Inhibine, Paul, I know you're not going to give us the full clinical trial design, but perhaps can you just guide us how you're sort of thinking about the initial trial design size? Would you be willing to use an active comparator, just given how quickly this space is moving, and just sort of what where your intentions are in terms of treatment, in the treatment landscape. Where do you really see this Inhibini product getting slotted? Thank you.
spk08: Thank you, and thanks for noticing the updated web design. Hopefully, it makes it easier to access information from all our constituents. As it relates to that, and I'm glad we're talking about clinical trial designs for inhibity, and there will be a lot more to come on that as we move throughout this year. I think the other update, to your point on the evolving landscape and how do inhibity silencers relate to other therapeutics, I think we've got a lot of opportunities throughout 2024 to continue to provide updates on thinking about these synergies. As it relates to the initial trial design, I think this is one of the advantages we have with a very potent and durable program. As we were saying, we think we're beyond potential twice a year dosing into thinking about annual. Let's just think creatively about designing healthy volunteer studies because we do have biomarkers, not just biomarkers of target engagement, but because in some of the genetic studies have shown that actually these patients have lower levels of triglycerides and LDL. They have higher HDL. There are a whole bunch of other biomarkers we wish to study. So I think as we think about running an overweight healthy volunteer study, it provides ample opportunity for us to build a profile, not just to establish dose and safety, but also to look at pharmacodynamic effects across the biomarkers. And then think about that to your point on how do we want to sequence that in on the treated population. So I think the initial study, we don't have to think about, you know, is this a run-in on whether it's GLPs or other therapies, I think the advantage we have in the healthy overweight volunteer study would be a clean population with which to exhibit the effects. But then would set us up to the ability to think about how we use this either in combination or sequenced as patients could transition off of GLP-1 as we think about subsequent clinical studies. But I think first and foremost, we're just very excited to see the speed with which we can translate our RNA platform from a target that we introduced last year into the clinic. And I think it just speaks not only to the discovery capability we have in RNAi, but also to the synergy we have with having our own internal manufacturing capability, where when we see an important high-impact program, we could rapidly translate that into the clinic. And so I think more to come on that over the course of the year.
spk01: Great. Thanks, Paul. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from June Lee with Truist. Your line is open.
spk06: Thanks for the update and for taking our questions. On the Inhibit E program in obesity, Can you elaborate a bit on the nature of the inhibiting mutation in the general population that confer protection against obesity? I understand that they are heterozygotes, but how penetrant are the heterozygotes phenotypes, and what are some potential genetic modifiers of the phenotype that could complicate your clinical assessments? And I have a quick follow-up.
spk08: Yeah, I mean, I think as we look at protective loss-of-function variants, I think it's always There are few and far between to find, and when you find them, you learn a lot of interesting things on the other side of them. So, I think the notion of us being able to find what happens in patients who are heterozygous. So, I think your question is, rather than looking at it as, let's say, a toxic gain of function that we need to knock down and correct, the opportunity here to see what is it about this population that is protective. So, I think the penetrance is probably like less than 0.1%, and this is because we probably as a species evolved actually for fat storage in another direction. When we go back to clinical genetics and see that actually this loss of function confers reduction of abdominal obesity, reduction in key measurements of bad cholesterol, so triglycerides, LDL, improvement in good cholesterol, HDL. And then importantly, as we think about kind of the byproducts of both of those, and I think that's what's unique about the human clinical genetic experience from the UK Biobank, as you follow these patients out, is you see this reduced odds rate of cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes. So it's a really protective loss of function. The question in all of these always comes out in our minds to your point of, you know, what happens if you were to induce that? Is this something you need from birth? Is this a correlative mutation, which case you just happen to see it? Or Do you need it from birth, you know, or is it inducible? And so when we really thought back, and this is why the data last year was so important, to have the first data really looking at the in vivo induction of a loss of function and to see that translation of whether or not that would confer the same phenotype, that's what we were excited about, right? That data we shared last year showed for the first time that it was inducible. So if you induced greater than 50% silencing, which we did, you could see that correlate with fat loss, and I say weight loss, but really we should be focusing on it was fat loss without muscle depletion, equivalent to semaglutide. And so I think that was really the first important notion that as we think about the population genetics, that we found a target that had the ability to be induced, so you didn't need it from birth. It didn't correlate, it delivered the phenotype and so as we continue to follow this and continue to run experiments now we are seeing that it's an inducible phenotype and i think the best example of this was within the fat loss concept it came at the expense of visceral fat white fat and we can measure that highly specifically and so collectively we need to continue to run these studies and biomarkers and then run i think the human experiment to really see can we continue to see these changes move forward
spk06: That's really helpful, Paul. Thank you. And, you know, with regards to the assessment, would it be as simple as weighing them, or is it more complicated given the beneficial impact potentially on muscle mass? I was curious your thoughts on how you're going to capture the overall clinical benefit.
spk08: So I think the opportunity, and just to make sure I'm getting questions, how do we see the benefit of fat loss in the clinic as opposed to, you know, corresponding with weight loss? Just want to make sure I get.
spk06: Yeah, you know, I mean... GLP-1 is pretty straightforward. You just weigh them, and then weight loss is an endpoint. In your drug, you lose weight from the fat. At the same time, you don't lose muscle mass. So, you know, how do you capture that benefit? Would you like to do a functional test, or is it just weighing them?
spk08: No, I mean, in reality, I mean, the beauty of the preclinical models is we have dissected that out, right? We can see reduction in weight, and we can measure fat, and that was the key in moving this program forward, right? So we're seeing weight loss coming at fat loss. And we measure muscle, lean muscle mass. And that's why we showed actually, as we selected, no loss of lean muscle mass, which I think is an important determinant. As we think about going into the clinic, you're right. We're also going to measure weight because that is an important feature, but we can do hip to weight ratio. If we think about the phenotype of loss of protective loss of function, those Those humans, I don't want to call them patients, those humans in the population that have this loss of function have low hip-to-weight ratio and BMI. So we can take measurements that correlate with that reduction of abdominal fat and reduction in weight and demonstrate that. There's also opportunities as well in the clinic for imaging to be able to specifically look at abdominal and visceral fat. So there are measurable biomarkers to really distinguish this program from other classes of obesity products. that really speak to on-target mechanisms.
spk10: Thank you. Looking forward to the progress there.
spk01: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Joseph Schwartz with Luric Partners.
spk05: Your line is open.
spk12: Hi. Thanks very much. I was wondering a couple of things on inhibi. Can you first talk about the key characteristics which you were able to achieve that encouraged you to elect your inhibitory clinical candidate ahead of expectations? What were you aiming for? How did it come together quicker than you planned? And what work remains to be done before you can move into humans?
spk08: Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Joe. So, I mean, the key characteristics were obviously started with the program last year, which we had already established, which is weight loss similar to other obesity products in the class. And importantly, and to June's last question, demonstration of differentiation to that, you know, on target, meaning this mechanism of loss of function wasn't just weight loss at the expense of muscle. So it wasn't induced anorexia. It was actually targeted loss of fat. And so we were able to demonstrate that consistently as part of the biology of the program. I think the drivers we thought about selecting the candidates, was really driven around dose and dose frequency. So recognizing that this is a large indication. Those two things, as we've learned from other products like Inclustrant, are important to be seeing, as we said, low single-digit dose. So very, you know, being able to use a low amount of drug, Gavisate and CalNet conjugated, SIRNA helps with that. And importantly, too, durability. We wanted a product that had a profile of, at the most, twice-a-year dosing and potentially less frequent, thinking annually. Those achievements were what helped us identify and lock in on our candidate. What's still to be done is the IND enabling studies. Those are underway. In terms of what enabled us to accelerate this, I think there were really two fundamental parameters. One is with the resources, as we said last year in the financing, it was really about accelerating the time to candidate year. We could run experiments in parallel to make sure that they were moving forward. Coupled that with I think, which is really nice, is the translation of the siRNA template. So with siRNA, we were able to move that template rapidly and to see that benefit. The second feature which enabled us to truly accelerate it was having in-house manufacturing, meaning we didn't have to go out to a CDMO to start trying to find a slot to make material, not just for our preclinical studies and toxicology studies, but getting ready for the clinic. So by having in-house manufacturing, we could deliver the data preclinically high-end enabling study material, and importantly, make our clinical trial material so that we could be best positioned to rapidly move to the clinic. So, I think the convergence of all of the things that we have been working on in WAVE over the last decade were really able to allow us to rapidly translate the insights from last year on the infinity target into a potential medicine that we'll bring into the clinic in early 2025. Okay.
spk12: That's helpful. Thank you, Paul. And then, Given there are so many different animal models for obesity, I was wondering which one or one should we focus on that best demonstrate the potential for a differentiated clinical profile of WVEO6 relative to the wide array of incretins in development, and which ones tend to translate the best both for weight loss effects as well as the potential metabolic benefits?
spk08: Yeah, I think we have chosen to focus on the diet-induced obesity mouse model in that there's other models of being overweight that require how you're fed and making sure that you can, as best possible, recapitulate what's seen in humans. I think these models, as we've seen and we've shared data before, are highly correlative. We can benchmark that against existing GLP-1s and the performance of those in weight loss. But I think what's also important in these models is it does allow us to do what we've done, which is discern fat loss from weight loss, being able to do lean muscle mass measurements to show that you don't lose muscle mass at the expense of weight loss. So really fat loss as a concept of what healthy weight loss is. And so the model just lets us do a lot in terms of measuring the biomarker, et cetera, to be able to best plan for dose, dose frequency, and moving to the clinic.
spk05: Thank you.
spk01: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Luca Issy with RBC Capital.
spk05: Your line is open.
spk00: Oh, great. Thanks so much for taking my question, and congrats on the progress. Maybe two quick ones here. Maybe on Huntington, can you just remind us the mechanics of the Takeda opt-in right here, and what do you think they need to see in Q2 in order to exercise that option? Again, any call there, much appreciated. And then maybe on GLIP1, if I capture it correctly, you mentioned that discontinuation rate for GLIP1 can be as high as 68%. That seems a little bit higher number versus what we've been hearing from docs. So just wondering if you can expand on where the number comes from and maybe give your picture why that matters and implications for your program. Thank you so much.
spk08: Yeah, no, absolutely. So starting with the HD program, Obviously, as Anne-Marie pointed out, the key for us is delivering key biomarker data demonstrating that we can achieve, like we saw, and it's important to remember, in the single-dose data, 35% reduction versus placebo. So we've seen knockdown of the mutant protein. We've seen that we did that in a way that was wild-type sparing, so that was the early clinical data. at a single dose. I think what we've also subsequently and importantly received from Takeda as we reported in the fourth quarter was the $7 million milestone payment on achieving a distribution study showing that we could actually target at therapeutically relevant concentrations drug in the right region of the brain that should be targeted for HD. So as we put these data together, the key for us is to deliver now the multi-dose data demonstrating that package. And that's the package that's required to be submitted to DCADA. I think we're focused on doing what's best for the program. We're generating that data. We'll be working with them collaboratively. And just a reminder, so when that package gets submitted, it's our discretion to submit the package. DCADA then has an evaluation period with which to decide to opt-in. Opt-in comes with a payment. that would be a substantial payment on supporting our contributions to the clinic. And it then switches over to a 50-50 R&D split, profit split, with additional milestone payments along the progress of the program. So I think step one for us is deliver data that we think, you know, whether it's Decata, we want to deliver a package that we believe is the right package with which this program should move forward or not. And so I do think about this coming data set as an important decision point for the program so this will decide whether or not the program does have the data with which to support moving forward or not as it relates to your question on the discontinuation rate there was a and again there's as you said there's reported you know how do physicians and various surveys report out this was based on an analysis so a claims database of following how many patients are staying on it. And so with the prime therapeutic analysis with the claims database looking at patients staying on. So these things are always points in time. People use them in different ways and report different ways, but this was a, we tend less to use surveys and look at the published numbers. This is based on a published analysis. Got it. That's very helpful. I think it's important and I think it's, I mean, I think that's the fundamental question, whether it's 68, 70, as some people say, I think the ultimate question is, why are people dropping off of a medicine that has the effects that it does? And so I think we think about this oftentimes as shifting the narrative from what's weight loss versus what's healthy, sustainable fat loss. And so the opportunity we have in front of us is. to utilize human clinical genetics to induce a phenotype that is about healthy weight loss independently, or most importantly, as it was pointed out, I think earlier, one of the questions is thinking about how these will be used in common practice. And I think the real opportunity in front of all of us is people will use GLP-1s for induction weight loss. And I think the key is how to move people and migrate people from GLP-1s with a chronic therapy where they increase their risk by staying on it of complications and sarcopenia. So ultimately saying after that induction phase, how can you have sustainable maintenance fat loss in a way that's a once or twice a year sub-Q injection and provides all of this continued cardiovascular benefits and diabetes risk benefits that have been seen in the UK Biobank clinical data. I think that's why that data is important for us, is being able to see that there's a substantial opportunity, not just from the front end, but really on this top capability to transition patients to this therapy.
spk04: Got it. Thanks so much.
spk01: One moment for our next question.
spk05: Our next question comes from Ananda Ghosh with AC Rainwright. Your line is open.
spk11: Yeah, hi. Thank you. You know, I will focus on the DMD program. I was just wondering, you know, given the DMD landscape and the new data coming out from SRP 5051 or DINE 251, how do you see your DMD program differentiate from the current developments in the landscape? Thank you.
spk08: Great question. I mean, and obviously, this was something we focused on at the very beginning of our journey in DMD, which was we needed to see several things to bring this program forward into the clinic to begin with. And I think to your point on differentiation, first and foremost is the production of functional dystrophin, vector-like dystrophin as the core driver. So that's important, right? That was one, an important construct. Two, we wanted to see high levels of muscle concentration, meaning high levels of muscle concentration that then become productive, meaning they get to the right compartment of the cell. That's what we see with the highest level of exon skipping at 53% skip transcripts. I think that combination coupled with the data that we're going to have in Q3, which will be the 24-week data where we can now have over the same time as the commercial products within 53 landscape, will give us a benchmark of that translation, meaning strong functional dystrophin-like numbers that would support moving forward and potential registration. I think all of that also comes with another point of differentiation, which is not just on the number of dystrophin, but where dystrophin comes from. So what we've seen is both in the double knockout mouse, we saw it in the X mouse, we saw it in our non-human primate distribution, it's higher levels of skip drug in the heart and the diaphragm over skeletal muscles. So I think if we think about the progress with these boys, one of the key features that we focus on is respiratory and cardiac function. So the ability to get into tissues with exposures that help these boys is a key point of differentiation. I think as we think about the early development too, so young boys into maturation, is also this ability to get into the regenerative cells. So the update that we were sharing at NDA, which is really the ability to get into the satellite cells, the stem cells and muscles that are regenerating. also gives us a lot in improving the regenerative potential of muscle. So when we think about that capability, where we're distributing to, in addition to high productivity of dystrophin, we do think that there's a lot of points of differentiation, let alone just dosing frequency. So within exon 53, the current products are dosed on a weekly IV infusion. As we shared from our original data with the 25-day half-life, we do expect this to be a monthly dosed product. The benefit of that muscle exposure, so as we shared, thousands of folds higher than what's been seen before. We think that without a conjugate also gives us the differentiation as it relates to what's been seen with some of the other conjugate programs in terms of hypomagnesemia, hypokalemia, and some of the other concerns. So I think we can differentiate on a whole number of features, whether it's convenience, tolerability, and efficacy in the right regions. I think we're in a really good position, so long as, and I think that's the last key answered question in Q3, as we see that translate to dystrophin, and we are poised with a fully enrolled study to deliver those dystrophin numbers.
spk11: Great.
spk05: Thank you. Very helpful. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Dr. Paul Bonlo for any closing remarks.
spk08: Thank you all for joining the call this morning. We believe 2024 is going to be an exciting year for WAVE, and we look forward to keeping you all updated on our progress. Have a great day.
spk05: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.
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