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spk06: Greetings and welcome to the Expel, Inc. second quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode and a question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the call, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mr. John Nesbitt of IMF Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
spk03: Good morning and welcome to our conference call to discuss Expel's financial results for the second quarter of 2023. On the call today, Ryan Pape, Expel's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Barry Wood, Expel's Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will provide an overview of the business operations and review the company's financial results. Immediately after the prepared comments, we will take questions from call participants. I'd like to take a moment to read the Safe Harbor Statement. During the course of this call, we'll make certain forward-looking statements regarding Expel Inc. and its business, which may include but are not limited to anticipated use of proceeds from capital transactions, expansion into new markets, and execution of the company's growth strategy. Such statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions, which are subject to known and unknown risk factors and uncertainties that could cause actual results to material differently from those expressed in these statements. Some of these factors are discussed in detail in our most recent Form 10-K, including under Item 1-A, Risk Factors, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. ExBell undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Okay, with that, I will now turn the call over to Ryan Pitt. Go ahead, Ryan.
spk07: Thank you, John. And likewise, good morning, everyone. Welcome to the second quarter 2023 call. Clearly and obviously Q2 is another great quarter for us, record revenue, gross profit, EBITDA, net income. Revenue for the quarter grew 21.9% to $102.2 million. This is our first ever quarter where we exceeded $100 million in revenue, which is a great symbolic milestone for us, especially for those of us who were here when we had a quarter with $3 million in revenue, so great quarter. The U.S. region had another solid quarter, revenue growing 20.3% compared to Q2 2022 to $59.1 million. That was up sequentially just under 16% and about 15% over our previous high quarter for the region, which was Q3 of last year. New car inventories have continued to improve, benefiting our dealership services business, And OEM production has improved with the OEMs that we're attached to, so that's helped the OEM business. And then new car sales overall have performed well in spite of interest rates, which is good for the business overall and good for the aftermarket and probably illustrates some elements of pent-up demand from the past few years, which many had expected. July was another good month for new car sales, so we see that momentum continuing. I think it's fair to say that we're probably off the fever pitch from a year ago in the aftermarket, but it's really not showing in the results. So all that to say that if we were one year ago, I think you would see even better results than we see today, but hard to pick apart what's happening in the business. So we're very happy with it. All of our regions, really excluding China, had record or near record quarters in the case of Latin America. In most cases, these record revenues significantly exceeded their previous high. For example, the continental Europe finished at 9.7 million for the quarter, which was just under 22% higher than the region's previous high. China performed consistent to our expectations for the quarter. As we've talked about, I think in the last call, revenue was up 2.5% over Q2 2022. We thought maybe it'd be down a single digit, so a little bit better than that, but not significant. But obviously that was an easy comp. for China as we were in the throes of the challenges in the prior year. So that's all to be expected. Sequentially, China was up 22% to 8.1 million, which like I said, is where we expected. The macro news out of China hasn't really changed much. I think it's still mixed for those of you sort of following it. And so our outlook for the region for the rest of the year hasn't changed in that we expect sequential quarterly increases in Q3 and Q4, with total revenue for the year relatively flat to last year, but that improving performance as we go through the year and in the back half of the year, like we've been talking about now for a few quarters. As I mentioned previously, we're in the process of putting our corporate team in China for better visibility to assist the distributor and also for more Asia-focused uh, positioning in general, uh, to give the whole region more, more focused, but inclusive of China and demonstrating, you know, what we think we can grow in China by doing that in China. Um, timing of the China orders versus deliveries will be important in terms of how the final two quarters of the year shake out. Um, you know, that's a continuing dynamic for us where we have larger deliveries that can shift from one period to another as part of a sell in versus sell through dynamic that we don't have elsewhere in the world. Expectations for new car sales seem to be mixed for the rest of the year, really, when talking about the U.S. market. If we take a rather conservative view of that, which we haven't seen in the results, but some are talking about it, along with uncertainty in terms of China deliveries, our expectations for Q3 revenue will be right around or slightly above Q2. However, if business remains more robust, like the first half of the year, and or the timing of the China deliveries are favorable, then we would expect Q3 to be higher than Q2 revenue by several million dollars. So I think there's some uncertainty as to the timing of that still for the rest of the year, but should be solid either way. And our estimated total annual growth for the year right now is around 22%. So we're still in that 20 to 25% range. And the difference plus or minus to that is probably going to be The timing in terms of China's I just mentioned so still set up to have a really good year Now our international expansion remains the top priority and a priority for reinvesting our cash that we're generating We've had tremendous wins in Australia since acquiring our distributor The business is now two to three times larger than it was obviously off of a small base But in under a year and we plan to take our labor programs to Australia within the next year so you kind of see a all facets of our business we think are, for the most part, equally applicable in all regions of the world. So while labor has really kind of dominated the U.S. and Canada, we see no reason to limit it in that way. Other points in Asia, Latin America, India also, these are priority markets for us for deeper investment and engagement using everything we've learned in the other markets where we've gone direct and in China. as a particularly interesting comparison, especially when looking at the strategy for a market like India. So this is an area of tremendous work for us, and we actually expect to reorganize the company in a substantial way around these priority markets sort of in the next half a year. So we see tremendous opportunity in these. And in a lot of these markets, there's a core business that if we're present, the business comes to us. And then obviously we have to work much harder after that core, but that core exists and it's a very healthy thesis for why we should invest and be direct in many markets in the world. We had a nice gross margin performance in the quarter, gross margin coming in at 43%. I mean, very pleased with the gross margin initiatives that we've had and the results. We continue to see reductions in bill material costs for some of our products, which is one of the biggest contributing factors to this gross margin expansion along with channel mix where we're growing in more profitable channels and then product mix where some of our new products are higher gross margin. We've also been a good partner to our suppliers and that's benefited us in the gross margin line in terms of negotiating discounts and other concessions as the global supply chain continues to recalibrate and we sort of get out of the position that everyone's been in over the past two years. So that's a contributing factor as well. It remains possible that we'll finish the year a bit higher than our forecast of 42%. But we're still holding to that view, not necessarily expecting to end at 43%, although it's possible. We do have expectations of driving gross margin incrementally higher from that 42% in the next years. And this is in part based on the future revenue mix. We've got an increasingly complicated mix of revenue, each with their own drivers. and that's going to be a driver of what that sort of terminal gross margin can be, but we do see it going higher than where it is kind of over the next 24 months, I would say. We continue to see great leverage in the business during the quarter, EBITDA growing 30.5% to $22.4 million, that income growing 32.3% to $15.7 million. These are both records for the company. EPS was $0.15 a share for the quarter, and as Barry will mention later, Excluding costs related to our dealer conference, which was very expensive but also very amazing in the quarter, which without a period compared to the prior year, EPS would have been $0.61 for Q2, so a really good number there. This year, we've really been investing heavily in our team, specifically software, technology, product, and marketing, really in the sort of SG&A line items. And this is to deliver new products and new services over the coming years. So I think you're seeing the overall growth of that cost structure, but we're more than offsetting it with gross margin improvement. And some of that SG&A growth is actually benefiting the gross margin profile of the business as we operate better. But some of it is just net investment that's just offset by the incremental gross margins we're generating. Either way, we found this could be an important year to double down on our investment in these key areas to set us up for the future. And we've not altered any of those plans that we had coming into the year, looking at the macro or anything else. So you're really seeing sort of the full level of investment for us. Some of it is probably shifted towards the back half of the year, second quarter on, just with timing of new hires and things. I think we talked about that on the first quarter call. But that just reflects just the the timing of scaling the headcount and scaling those positions more than it does a lack of desire or a change in decision to make those investments. Barry will talk more about later. We generated almost $27 million in operating cash for the quarter. Inventory levels are not growing like they were. Days on hands are reducing modestly through the year. And then some of the just timing issues, timing items with the other elements of working capital we saw in the first quarter sort of reversed. I think that, you know, this has been a big question over the past few years as we've seen these inventory levels ramp and a question of, well, you know, did they keep growing or how much did they come down? And, you know, we've said that we'd be very happy if they stayed flat or came down modestly so long as we saw some reduction in days on hand. And I think you're seeing that now. And so you're seeing this trend of consuming massive amounts of cash in the inventory reverse to where we're generating lots of cash, even without reducing inventory in a dramatic way. There's one thing we know that we don't want to do in this business is to run out of inventory because the wheels fall off the wagon quickly if that happens. So couldn't be happier about that. We do expect that to continue going forward. Our acquisition pipeline is full. We remain very active on this. And as we get asked, we do expect to be able to utilize all this cash to reinvest in the business and primarily on these acquisitions and to a lesser, much lesser extent on some additional CapEx that we think could drive further gross margin performance. But given the small scale of the acquisitions that make up most of what we consider, which limits the sort of existential risk to the company, we're looking at these acquisitions on an equal footing to internal reinvestment in the business. Because from a practical and financial standpoint, there's little difference. an acquisition strategy predicated on much larger bets, we would have a different calculus because it would be a completely different game. So in any event, we do expect to be able to use this cash certainly out the next 18, 24 months without issue. Speaking of one area we've been investing in, our DAP Next, our new version of our DAP platform, would be completely migrated to the new platform by the end of Q3. And then all the new features that we're adding, which are related to business operations, pricing, marketing, these will all are only being released in this new platform, obviously. Customer response has been great. And we really see this as an important tool to help our customers increase their profitability, to give them the confidence to grow and reinvest in their business as and then to allow us to serve them better. Part of what we're doing here is just setting ourselves up to success, to be the absolute best partner to them in addition to what we can do for their business. So really great quarter for us. Thanks to our whole team. Everyone pushes really hard here, and there's never a down moment, and we've delivered outstanding results, and I'm thankful that I'm thankful to all of you and to all of them for all of your contributions. So with that, we'll turn it over to Barry and then take questions. Barry, go ahead.
spk00: Thanks, Ryan, and good morning, everyone. Just a couple of comments to add on revenue. From a product line perspective, combined paint protection film and cut bank revenue grew 16.7% in the quarter and was up sequentially a little over 14%. Our window film product line revenue grew 28.7% quarter over quarter to 20.3 million, which represented 19.9% of our total revenue, which was a record for quarterly window film revenue, and just a little under 29% higher than our previous high. Included in our window film product line is our architectural window film product branded as Vision. Revenue for the Vision product grew a little under 52% to 2.4 million, which represented approximately 12% of total window film revenue and 2.4% of overall revenue. So really good performance there. Our OEM business had a nice quarter with revenue growing a little over 62% versus Q2 2022 to 4.3 million, which was up sequentially 22.5% versus Q1. Our fusion ceramic coating product revenue, which is included in our other revenue line, grew a little over 81% quarter over quarter to $1.8 million and represented just under 2% of total revenue for the quarter. And finally, our total installation revenue combining product and service grew 31.5% in the quarter and represented 16.9% of total revenue. And on a year-to-date basis, total revenue grew 20.8%. Our Q2 SG&A expense grew a little over 38%, 23.8 million, and it represented 23.3% of total revenue. And as Ryan alluded to, included in our Q2 SG&A was approximately 1.5 million in net costs for our annual dealer conference held in April, which was out of period for comparative purposes as our 2022 conference was held in Q1 2022. And if you normalize for that, SG&A would have grown approximately 29 percent for the quarter, representing approximately 22 percent of total revenue. And Ryan talked about the good leverage we saw in the quarter, and that was even with the dealer conference net cost factored in. EPS was 57 cents per the quarter, and on a year-to-date basis, EPS was 98 cents. And if you normalize for the dealer conference in the quarter, dealer conference costs, EBITDA would have grown 39% quarter over quarter, and net income would have grown approximately 42%. And on a year-to-date basis, EBITDA grew 36% to $39.5 million, and net income grew 37.9% to $27.2 million. Cash flow from ops for the quarter was $26.7 million, which was obviously a very solid cash flow performance. As we discussed on our last call, we expected positive impacts to our operating cash flows as our inventory levels normalized, and we certainly saw that in Q2. We saw a nice improvement in our cash conversion cycle for the quarter, owing mainly to our improved inventory days on hand, and we ended the quarter in a net debt zero position, which is a function of our strong cash flow in the quarter. And I should also mention here that we're certainly not opposed to some modest leverage, especially for deals with very favorable valuations like we've been able to do in the past. So we'll continue to optimize our capital structure as we go forward, and we're in a very strong financial position to continue to execute on our strategy. So another really good quarter for us, and we look forward to closing out the second half strong. And with that, operator, we're now open to call up for questions.
spk06: Certainly. The floor is now open for questions. If you would like to join the queue to ask a question at this time, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We do ask if listening on speakerphone this morning that you pick up your handset while asking your question to provide optimal sound quality. Once again, that will be star 1 on your telephone keypad at this time if you would like to join the queue to ask a question. Please hold a moment while we poll for questions. And the first question this morning is coming from Steve Dyer from Craig Hallam. Steve, your line is live. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you. Congrats, guys. Another very good quarter. Clearly, over the last couple of years, your ability or the desire from dealers to preload this on inventory, I'm talking primarily about paint protection film, but I suppose also window tint maybe in some instances, that was obviously a big driver. Are you seeing kind of with inventory sort of a little bit more normal? Are you still seeing the same appetite to do so or any changes there?
spk07: Yes, Steve. You know, we're really not. And if you look at paint protection film, the vast majority of that for us has not been preloaded. It's actually a relatively small percent owing to the level of aftermarket sales that drive that. The window tint business is slightly more preload focused in terms of what we've seen. But we've not seen that trend change. And in fact, we've seen an interest in preloading maybe continue or even accelerate in some cases as the market adjustments and sort of the freewheeling nature of the business over the past two years with the short inventory has become more challenged and the margins just aren't quite there like they were. So we haven't seen that change, but we're not, you know, overly exposed to it. And, you know, I think our approach in terms of working with dealerships and our whole aftermarket network working with dealerships is We really want to meet them where they are. And for some, a preload option is good. For some, that's not the right answer. And then they may want to sell it on the back end. And then in some cases, they want to do both. So I don't see that as a huge driver for us or a huge risk at this point.
spk01: Gotcha. That's great. Are you seeing just, I guess, over the last couple of years, COVID, inventory changes, etc., Are you seeing any change in how much of the vehicle clients or customers are wrapping? I know sometimes it's put into a certain package with front of the hood and front bumper and backs of the mirrors or something like that. But any sort of larger change in how much they're wrapping?
spk07: Well, there's no question that we've seen the average coverage as we would call it, continue to increase. The product for paint protection film, you know, even on a high-end vehicle, was once just part of the hood. And what that does is leaves a line that's not visible unless the car's dirty or there's some, you know, contrast to see it. But that's actually, you know, a common objection to the product. So over time, we've seen that coverage increase to, you know, covering the full hood and that type of thing. And so we're really trying to strike a balance between offering smaller coverage to get more people introduced to paint protection film at a lower price point while simultaneously trying to push for that increased coverage because we actually think it will increase customer adoption because you're taking away effectively the last objection to the product. You know, there wouldn't be price focused. So we're kind of doing both things at once, but in terms of our strategy. But the net effect is that that coverage and the amount of the vehicle covered has continued to increase, you know, on average over time. And we would expect that to continue.
spk01: Got it. Okay. And maybe I missed this. I don't think so. But any sort of update on your progress on the OEM front? Yeah, we had good growth in OEM.
spk07: I think they recovered, I think, like 60% 60-something percent growth over the prior year. This continues to be an area of interest. The programs we have have been growing. I would call them all successful at this point. And our approach to this is that this is a complementary piece to the rest of the market, one that's bringing new consumers into the fold for paint protection film. But we also want to see any of these programs that are done, that they're done successfully and that they're not too ambitious. And so we've been pretty good at managing that. So I would say everything that we've done has been successful. Most are in some type of discussion for expansion, which is what we want, start small and expand. And then we've got, I would say, a full pipeline of additional opportunities. You know, the sales cycle on these type of things is much longer than the rest of our business. So this is kind of looking out 6, 12, even 18 months. But we expect that to grow as a as a part of the business and ultimately be beneficial to driving the rest of the business. The attach rates are low enough and the awareness is still low enough that this is not an exercise in cannibalization of one segment of the market to the other. This is growing attach rates and then maybe more importantly growing awareness for future purchases of the channel.
spk01: That's great. That's a helpful explanation. That's all I have.
spk02: Thanks guys. Thanks, Steve.
spk06: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Jeff Van Sinderen from B. Reilly. Jeff, your line is live. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hi. Good morning, everyone. Just wanted to touch on gross margin for a minute, running really strong there, and just wondering if you could speak a little more about the long-term outlook for gross margin, the drivers you're seeing around that, maybe touch on what you're seeing with some of the new products that have higher margins And then also, a lot of, I apologize, a lot of questions in one question here. The new dealer software as part of that discussion and perhaps the, maybe also if you could just delve more into the service revenue component.
spk07: Sure, Jeff. Yeah. So, you know, what we've seen in terms of gross margin, it's really broken into a couple buckets. One is a channel mix. So, Like I mentioned, just as an anecdote, the business in Australia, it's now growing much faster than it was since we bought it and also at a much higher gross margin. So we're seeing growth in geographies and elements of the channel with higher gross margin. And then as we've added new products, some of our subproduct lines with paint protection film in terms of our ultimate fusion product or elements of our protection film line or coatings line and things like that, these products are accreted to gross margin. So as they become a larger percentage of revenue, we're benefiting from that. And then more broadly speaking, the service revenue tends to be accreted to gross margin as well. So you've got the channel mix and you've got the product mix. And then simultaneously, we've been working very hard on the supply chain elements across all of our products. in terms of the actual bill of material cost of the products, and then also the ancillary costs that go into gross margin that are related to making, buying, shipping, converting, whatever it might be, all of our products. And so all three of those things are driving it. The last item, in terms of managing the bill of material costs and other components of cost of goods, probably the most consequential at present, just because it supports
spk02: room to run as we get in next year and the year after.
spk07: Part of where what we don't know is, relatively speaking, what do we see in terms of growth and the different geographies and what do we see, relatively speaking, in the product lines. And so that makes it a little harder for us to pin that down. But I kind of think we've got three avenues to win in terms of continuing to increase the gross margin beyond fiscal year 23. We really only need two out of the three to work in order to be able to do that. So while we don't know exactly what that means, I think it sets us up pretty well to do that. And you asked about the software, the DAP software. Software for us years ago was not an inconsequential portion of our revenue, and obviously that's changed as the business has grown. One of our questions and objectives as we do continue to enhance the DAP platform. Can we get software revenue growing from that again? Is there a payments revenue or ancillary revenue we can get from that to where it's not only helping our customers and helping the business, but it's also another source of high gross margin revenue? I think a little bit premature to try and characterize that, but that's an obvious conclusion, an obvious question to draw from thinking about about what we're doing. So that will be a factor too. I think you had one last question, but I don't remember what it was, Jeff.
spk05: No, that's okay. I actually just wanted to follow up on the software. What kind of feedback are you getting from dealers on the benefits that they're seeing to their businesses?
spk07: Well, I think what the feedback we're getting now is, you know, wow, this is great. This is the largest investment, the largest set of changes we've ever seen Expel do, even if we've been a customer for a long time. So they're clearly noticing the change and they're noticing our investment in something that's very important to us. I think that's probably the extent of the feedback that we have. and it's probably going to take a little bit longer to get the feedback that says, hey, I used sort of the playbook that you guys have instituted here on how to run my business, and I've seen my business grow as a result. That's the outcome that we want, but I would probably check back in a year for that type of story to start to come through.
spk05: Okay, fair enough. And then one thing that we've noticed is that some dealers, we talk a lot about preloading PPF, but Notice that some dealers are preloading ceramic coating more. I'm just wondering what you're saying there.
spk07: Well, I think it's similar to the broader question on preloading. You know, you have some dealers that like that as a business model and some that don't. And then of those that do, they might like it for one type of product or another, ceramic coating being one or window tint being one or paint protection being one. could depend on their prior experience or their customer base or what, what lines they're carrying. Um, so, you know, that is an element of it. And I think the, a part of the broader, um, uh, push there is that, you know, these are real tangible products that we're selling that provide demonstrable value and they aren't predicated upon having warranty or insurance attached to them to be useful. And in many respects, in our view, that makes them better products than a lot of the other things that are sold or preloaded. So that's kind of the underlying thesis. And then obviously from the retail dealer standpoint, we've got to show them they can make an equal or greater amount of money doing this or get more consumer acceptance. But I think you're seeing that happen. And we expect that to be the case across the product line, everything we're doing and then anything we might add in the future.
spk05: Okay, great to hear. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll take the rest offline.
spk02: Thanks, Jeff.
spk06: Thank you. Your next question is coming from Tim Moore from EF Hutton. Tim, your line is live. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thanks, Ryan and Barry. Terrific continued execution and EBITDA margin expansion in the first half was amazing. Three of my questions were already asked, but I have two remaining ones. You know, your scale and operating leverage benefits I've been phenomenal over the past few years, and the gross margin expansion was very good this year. I just want to delve more into the gross margin potential beyond this year. And I know Ryan gave us a little bit sneak peek in the prepared remarks, but, you know, Barry, I'm just wondering, you know, was maybe half the gross margin expansion this year from purchasing power and scale? And, you know, is the other half maybe from the new products mix that Ryan was talking about? And, you know, you actually lapped a lot of those Rivian delayed startup costs in the first half of this year. There was a bit of a drag last year. So I guess I was really kind of wondering, should we think of 42% to 43% as the floor on gross margin, or do you think it could dip a bit if China's sell-through accelerates in the December quarter or early next year because the China margins are lower and a little bit diluted?
spk00: Yeah. Tim, how you doing? Yeah, I think that, you know, to answer your first question, the gross margin expansion thus far, obviously mix and product mix and that played a part in that. But it's been primarily, you know, the efforts we've made around the supply chain. So that's that continues to be the case. And I think that as we go forward, I don't know that we would expect gross margin to dip. You know, how high it can go remains to be seen, but certainly we don't we certainly don't think that 43 percent is the is the cap by any stretch. But, you know, there'll be a lot of factors. And as Ryan was alluded to, you know, we've there's there's we have we feel good about our prospects there. And it's hard to say at this point how high it will go.
spk07: And I think, Tim, I would add to that relative to China is the good news, bad news, but there was a point where China on a percent of revenue basis was much larger. And so, yes, it is a lower gross margin region for us, but as a percent of revenue with how the rest of the business has grown, it's just not as impactful now, even when we see that rebound relative to offset in a substantial way this other work that's done. So the risk of China fundamentally altering margins at this point is pretty low. And if that were to happen, which we don't think it would be a result of some spectacular performance out of China, which we would gladly take if that happened, but it doesn't seem likely that that's going to be the case.
spk04: Sure, that's helpful, Collar. Yeah, I remember it's been a couple of years. I mean, I think it was 18% of sales a couple of years ago before the lockdowns. You know, that's good. That's really helpful, Collar. And, you know, it seems like that is a permanent purchasing power and supply chain effort. I know you changed the suppliers a bit last year that really helped. And my second and last question is, you know, how are dealership services progressing? You know, I know you did that small acquisition a couple months ago. And just on a high level, Ryan and Barry, is the number one limiter to installation and distribution target acquisitions or dealership services your integration team? Because it's clearly not your cash and liquidity, but obviously you have to spend a lot of your time on the core business and don't want to get distracted. So I'm just wondering, are there any limitations on the integration side for pickup and acquisitions?
spk07: Well, I think that, you know, the limitations we have are probably less in that realm, are probably less related to actually integrating an acquisition and more if we're trying to, you know, ensure that everything we're already doing at the scale we're doing it, that we have the infrastructure to support it and to keep doubling down on that. You know, we've added a we've added our headcounts grown substantially as we've added various programs that are more human capital driven. And so as we do that in a decentralized way and add more countries, you know, you just need more infrastructure to do that. So I don't perceive the actual integration of acquisition as a limiting factor. And I think for us, you know, we want the right deals at the right price. And, you know, the downside upside of doing the small deals that we do that sometimes you can get great deals and sometimes you can run into just a wild pricing asymmetry, if you will, given the profile of the seller. And so we just have to be patient and flexible. And, you know, if we, if it doesn't work today, you know, we're still, we're still there tomorrow. But no, I don't think the integration is, is, is holding us up. And I, I just don't see an issue with deploying the cash we're going to generate. It's just, just a matter of the, the timing of when that occurs.
spk04: Great. And that Australia acquisition seems like a grand slam given how much you've already grown sales.
spk02: But thanks, and that's it for my question. Thank you, Tim. Thank you.
spk06: There are no further questions in queue at this time, and I would now like to turn the floor back to management for closing comments.
spk07: Thank you all for joining us and thanks to our team for a great quarter and a lot of hard work to deliver these results. We're very appreciative of it and look forward to another quarter. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.
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