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10/28/2025
Good day and welcome to the third quarter 2025 CEPRA Technologies Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Steele, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Good morning and welcome to Zebra's third quarter earnings conference call. This presentation is being simulcast on our website at investors.zebra.com and will be archived there for at least one year. Our forward-looking statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially and we refer you to the factors discussed in our SEC filings. During this call, we will reference non-GAAP financial measures as we describe our business performance. You can find reconciliations at the end of this slide presentation and in today's earnings press release. Throughout this presentation, unless otherwise indicated, our references to sales performance are year-on-year on a constant currency basis and exclude results from recently acquired businesses for 12 months. This presentation will include prepared remarks from Bill Burns, our Chief Executive Officer, and Nathan Winters, our Chief Financial Officer. Bill will begin with the discussion of our third quarter results. Nathan will then provide additional detail and discuss our outlook. Bill will conclude with progress on advancing our strategic priorities. Following the prepared remarks, Bill and Nathan will take your questions. Now let's turn to slide four as I hand it over to Bill. Thank you, Mike.
Good morning and thank you for joining us. Our team executed well in the third quarter, delivering results above our outlook, driven by solid demand, lower than expected tariffs, and strong operating expense leverage. For the quarter, we realized sales of $1.3 billion, a 5% increase from the prior year, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.6%, a 20 basis point improvement, and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share, at $3.88, which was 11% higher than the prior year. We realized solid growth in our Asia Pacific, Latin America, and North America regions and had relative outperformance in printing, mobile computing, and RFID. Our retail and e-commerce end market was a bright spot. Healthcare cycled a strong compare and manufacturing remained relatively soft. We achieved double-digit earnings growth by driving operational efficiencies as they continue to invest in our leading portfolio of solutions. While we see growth across most of our business, our customers continue to navigate in a certain macro environment, resulting in uneven demand across some geographies and vertical markets. As we look at our broader business prospects, we're excited about our profitable growth opportunities, including our recent acquisition of Elo Touch Solutions, which enables us to accelerate our vision for the connected frontline. Our strong balance sheet and free cashflow profile also enables us to commit $500 million to share repurchases over the next 12 months as we drive long-term value for our shareholders. I will now turn the call over to Nathan to review our Q3 financial results and Q4 outlook.
Thank you, Bill. Let's start with the P&L on slide six. In Q3, Total company sales increased approximately 5%, with growth across most product categories and services and software recurring revenue business grew modestly in the quarter. Our enterprise visibility and mobility segment grew 2%, led by mobile computing. And our asset intelligence and tracking segment grew 11%, led by RFID and printing. As we disclosed in our earnings press release this morning, Please note that effective in the fourth quarter, we were reporting under two new segments, Connected Frontline and Asset Visibility and Automation. Bill will cover how this view aligns to our strategy and how we manage the business. Historical results have been recast in the appendix. We realized strong sales growth across most our regions. In North America, sales grew 6% with double-digit growth in mobile computing and RFID offsetting weakness in Canada. Asia Pacific sales increased 23%, led by Australia, New Zealand, and India. Sales increased 8% in Latin America, with broad-based growth across the region. In EMEA, sales declined 3%. Regional performance was mixed, with softness in Germany balanced with relative strength in Northern Europe. Adjusted gross margin declined 90 basis points to 48.2%, primarily due to higher U.S. import tariffs. Adjusted operating expenses as a percent of sales improved by 110 basis points. This resulted in second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.6%, a 20 basis point year-on-year improvement. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were $3.88, an 11% year-over-year increase and above the high end of our outlook. Turning now to the balance sheet and cash flow on slide seven. Year-to-date, we generated $504 million of free cash flow. As of the end of Q3, we held more than $1 billion of cash with a modest debt leverage ratio of 1 and $1.5 billion credit capacity. We have been deploying capital consistent with our allocation priorities. Through October year-to-date, we have repurchased more than $300 million of stock and acquired 3D machine vision company Photoneo and Elo Touch solutions with cash on hand in our existing credit facility. We continue to maintain excellent financial flexibility for investment in the business and return of capital to shareholders. And, as Bill highlighted, we are planning $500 million of share repurchases through the third quarter of 2026. On slide eight, we provide an update on the anticipated impact from tariffs on our products imported to the United States and our progress on mitigation. For the full year 2025, we're now assuming approximately $24 million for gross profit impact after mitigation, with a $6 million net impact expected in Q4, which is an improvement from our prior guide. Our forecast assumes the current effective rates and exemptions remain in place. We have a track record of successfully navigating supply chain challenges, including tariffs, and expect to substantially mitigate the current U.S. import tariffs entering 2026 as a result of actions taken by our team, including previously announced pricing adjustments yielding about one point of sales growth, reducing U.S. imports from China to less than 20%, rationalizing our product portfolio, and strong progress on driving overall supply chain efficiency and resilience. Let's now turn to our outlook. We anticipate between 8% and 11% sales growth in the fourth quarter, including approximately 850 basis points of contribution from our ELO and photo NEO acquisitions and favorable effects. Our second half demand assumptions have not changed from our prior business update. Our fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be approximately 22%, which assumes a $6 million net impact from U.S. import tariffs. The non-GAAP diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $4.20 to $4.40. Our fourth quarter outlook translates to full-year sales growth of approximately 8%. Our full-year adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be approximately 21.5%. And non-GAAP diluted earnings per share is expected to be approximately $15.80, based on our Q4 guide, a 17% year-on-year increase. Please reference additional modeling assumptions shown on slide 9. With that, I will turn the call back to Bill.
Thank you, Nathan. As we turn to slide 11, Zebra remains well positioned to benefit from secular trends to digitize and automate workflows with our portfolio of innovative solutions, including purpose-built hardware, software, and services. Our solutions intelligently connect people, assets, and data to assist our customers with business-critical decisions. I would like to spend a minute on our new reporting segments. Zebra operates in a greater than $35 billion served addressable market encompassing the connected frontline and asset visibility and automation. Each segment has a 5% to 7% organic growth profile over a cycle supported by megatrends, including artificial intelligence, mobile and cloud computing, and the on-demand economy. The connected frontline is about equipping the frontline of business with tools and digital touchpoints necessary to drive efficiency, optimize collaboration, and improve the consumer experience. Our solutions portfolio includes enterprise mobile computing, rugged tablets, frontline software, and AI agents. Our acquisition of ELO adds key capabilities in self-service and point of sale, increasing our addressable market in this segment to greater than $20 billion. Asset visibility and automation is primarily focused on digitizing environments and automating operations across the supply chain through advanced data capture, printing, machine vision, RFID, and other solutions. These are complementary and synergistic segments that digitize and automate operations and solve our customers' biggest challenge. Turning to slide 12, Zebra solutions enable our customers across a broad range of end markets to drive productivity and efficiency and improve service to their customers, shoppers, and patients. I would like to highlight RFID, which has been a consistent bright spot in our portfolio, growing double digits over the past several years. As a market leader, we're encouraged by the continued momentum we are realizing. Our largest customers in retail and e-commerce, as well as transportation logistics and manufacturing, have been expanding their adoption of Zebra's RFID solutions to additional workflows and categories due to the improved business outcomes they are achieving. Supply chain visibility, inventory accuracy, increased productivity, improved profitability, and reduced waste are key outcomes that are driving increased adoption of the technology deeper into all end markets. Our FAD continues to be an important area of growth for us, enhancing our broader set of solutions offerings and demonstrating how our evolving portfolio enables us to solve increasingly complex challenges. Turning to slide 13, our industry leadership puts us in a unique position to be the supplier of choice of AI solutions for the frontline. We can deliver an entirely new experience for frontline workers through mobile computing, coupled with wearable solutions and the cognitive capabilities of AI. Imagine handheld and wearable solutions that can see, hear, and understand the environment while interacting with the frontline worker in a conversational way. This is direction AI for the Frontline is headed, and we are starting this journey with our Zebra Companion offerings. We're excited by the opportunity to transform the way work gets done as we collaborate with our strategic partners across the AI ecosystem. Last month, more than 100 senior leaders of companies representing a variety of industries attended our inaugural Frontline AI Summit. During the event, we presented our AI vision and the benefits Zebra can bring to our customers to accelerate AI adoption and impact across their frontline operations. We have active pilots with our customers validating the benefits of our new AI solution. A specialty retailer is actively utilizing an advanced pilot of our AI companion agents to provide assistance with product recommendations resulting in better sales conversions and upsells, faster employee onboarding, and an elevated shopping experience. We believe that our AI agents will be attractive to any customer who strives to improve the productivity and effectiveness of their frontline associates. A large transportation logistics company is digitizing and accelerating proof of delivery with immediate feedback and enhanced compliance powered by our on-device AI suite. A digitized environment leveraging AI is fundamental to transforming workflows across a multitude of industries. These are early examples of the significant benefits our AI solutions can deliver to our customers and elevate Zebra as a leading AI solutions provider for the front line of business. We're looking forward to demonstrating our solutions at the National Retail Federation Trade Show in January. Turning to slide 14, we are excited about the opportunity to enhance the connected frontline experience with our recent acquisition of ELO Touch solution. Our combined capabilities enable us to offer more ways to digitize operations across more touchpoints and drive increased business with our enterprise customers. ELO is a pioneer in touchscreen technology and a leading provider of point of sale solutions, self-serve kiosks, interactive displays, and industry tailored offerings. ELO's modular solutions deliver cross-generational compatibility and their enterprise-ready platform and software tools seamlessly integrate into customers' existing ecosystem. Together, we can deliver better customer experiences through the intersection of frontline mobility and self-serve technology. This acquisition further elevates our strategic positioning across retail, hospitality, picture restaurants, healthcare, and manufacturing, through the breadth and depth of our complimentary portfolio of solutions. Over time, Zebra will offer a common platform across mobile and fixed digital touchpoints that improve frontline efficiency. Together with ELO, we are better positioned to deliver complete solutions and leverage AI to empower associates and elevate consumer experience. In closing, our confidence in sustainable long-term growth is underpinned by several themes that drive demand for our solutions, including labor and resource constraints, track and trace requirements, increased consumer expectations, advancements in artificial intelligence, and the need for intelligent operations. We are well positioned to address these critical requirements in our customers' operations with our leading portfolio solution. As we move forward, we remain focused on advancing our industry leadership with our innovative solutions that digitize and automate our customers' workflows and driving profitable growth. I will now hand it back to Mike.
Thanks, Bill. We'll now open the call to Q&A. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to give everyone the chance to participate.
We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you were using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Andrew Biscaglia with BNP Paribus. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Morning. Um, so yes, the band trend seems strong and are relatively strong in Q3. Um, and I noticed, you know, Q4 guidance implies organic growth, you know, somewhat decelerating. Um, I know you're facing a tough comp, but I'm wondering if you can kind of walk through what you see, you know, demand wise and, and, um, just additional commentary by end market would be helpful.
Yeah, I would say that if we look at Q3, the team executed well, driving sales near the high end of our outlook. And that was backed up by kind of solid demand across the business. I would say the second half is really playing out as we expected with some customers that bought products early to deliver their peak season, a bit earlier than we had originally expected. I would say that if you look across the regions, we saw solid growth across North America, Asia-Pac, and Latin America. If we think of the vertical markets, really the quarter was led by retail and e-commerce from an end market perspective. And as we called out in Q2, weakness in EMEA continued through Q3. I would say from a product perspective, you know, relative strength in mobile computing and printing, and RFID a bright spot. But I would say overall, you know, second half is playing out as we expected, just the timing of those orders coming a little early into Q3.
I see. Helpful. And can you comment on, you know, EVM, the growth was rather modest in the quarter last What are you seeing specifically in that segment? And do we still expect that to grow exiting the year?
I would say, you know, EVM from a mobile computing perspective, we saw strong growth in Q3 with, you know, large deals in North America, Asia Pacific, and Latin America. you know, continue to be positioned for long-term growth and opportunities of across mobile computing, including, you know, device in the hands of more associates overall, next generation product deliverables around wearables and RFID technology. We continue, as we talked about, you know, in the prepared remarks, an opportunity, you know, mid to longer term inside, you know, AI, as we see opportunities there to leverage AI in the front line. I would say that from a data capture perspective, which is also the other element of, you know, EVM, you know, the largest, you know, the second largest element to that is, you know, we saw decline based on a difficult compare, I would say, and, you know, across the scanning portfolio. So, you know, I think that really was the story of EVM, a combination of strong mobile computing, but, you know, difficult compare from a scanning perspective, which then, you know, impacted, you know, overall EVM and Q3.
The next question comes from Piyush Abbasi with Citi. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Good morning. With the understanding that you're not providing 2026 guidance, but it would be helpful if you could provide some puts and dates on the construct itself, like how different or similar can 2026 be from your long-term financial targets? I know that visibility is somewhat limited and there is still some macro uncertainty, but based on your conversation with your clients, how would you characterize the demand outlook heading into 2026 across your different verticals?
Yeah, I'd say, you know, today, while our customers remain cautious, you know, in the near term, you know, and we're experiencing, you know, some uneven demand across different environments. Think, you know, EMEA and then, you know, overall places like Canada, you know, so we're seeing uneven demand manufacturing, you know, from a vertical market, you know, perspective across areas. you know, our different vertical markets, our solutions basically remain fundamental to our customers and they remain essential for digitizing and automating environments. So, you know, longer term AI represents an opportunity to continue to advance our solutions and, you know, we're well positioned to, you know, drive sustainable, profitable growth in the next year is what I'd say.
Got it. And, um, You guys mentioned digital AI features. Again, I understand it's very early, but how soon can these features become a catalyst for growth for the company? I think you have talked about a refresh cycle at some point. Do you get the sense that there is demand and appetite from your customers to invest in software, which means when the next refresh cycle comes, it translates to not only hardware upgrade, but also strong software? Any comments there?
Yeah, I would say from an AI perspective, we see, you know, two opportunities as you've called out. One is, you know, certainly the hardware environment with, you know, next generation handheld devices coupled with, you know, we're the leader today in wearable technology inside the enterprise. So we see that playing out as the, you know, the way AI is delivered to the front line. It starts with mobile devices and it's likely coupled with, wearable technology from a hardware perspective. We're in pilot now, as we talked about in our repair remarks, with our Zebra Companion and our, you know, AI suite overall in different applications with, you know, customers in retail and T&L, as we talked about. So that creates, you know, a software opportunity for us across our AI agents and early customer pilots, or they're seeing significant value to those. I would say, you know, first revenues likely in 26 and then, you know, ramping in 27 and beyond is where we'd see is we're, you know, want to get through the pilots, demonstrate the value to our customers ultimately, and then begin to drive revenue and scale those into our customers. But the opportunity, as you said, is in two areas, hardware, upgrade of those hardware, new hardware in the idea of wearable, and then ultimately in software as well.
The next question comes from Damian Karras with UBS. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, Damian. How are you? Doing well, thank you. I was wondering if you could maybe speak a little bit to the large project funnel, what you're seeing out there, what conversations you're having. You know, has there been any – obviously the fourth quarter, it doesn't appear you're expecting – much large project activity, but just in terms of the funnel, is there any increase in customer conversations and any hope that maybe you could see some of that stuff get awarded in the fourth quarter or are we likely going to be waiting some time longer?
Yeah, I'd say as we've talked about, I would say the demand trajectory has remained pretty consistent with our outlook from the prior quarter. And I would say Customers have generally maintained their capital spending for the most part, and projects continue to move forward. I would say some have, and I think we talked about this last quarter as well, some have spread projects and purchases over multiple quarters. Again, driven by caution that still remains out there is our customers are navigating the global macro uncertainty and specifically some of the ultimate ramifications to a certain trade policy that's in place today. I would say this is driven, this uneven demand across some verticals and geographies, but You know, we feel good about the business overall and continuing to extend our lead. You know, but the demand environment hasn't changed much. I think we saw some orders earlier in the year than we anticipated. We continue to monitor our customers in, you know, not only opportunities for a year end but you know um you know what's happening across emia you know the tariff situation government shutdown so there's a lot of things happening in q4 that you know we feel good about you know our guide being balanced you know for the quarter and you know overall that makes sense and bill on on your point about you know some of this pull forward demand um you know in the third quarter
Any particular reason why you think some orders might have come in earlier in the second half? You know, anything to do with tariffs or sort of price optimization on the part of your customers? Just curious why that might be.
Thanks. Yeah, no, I would say, again, the timing is always, you know, isn't always exact, right? And, you know, we anticipated... You know, Q3, we call the guide for that. We, you know, overachieve that guide really is some customers just need a product earlier to meet their peak demand. I think that's a good thing, right? We're seeing, you know, e-commerce demand, retail continue to be strong in Q3. And I think that drove some earlier orders. I wouldn't call it pull-in as much as just, you know, timing of the need for the product when they would have normally ordered a bit later. They said, hey, I'd like to have this product earlier to meet the Q3 demand for peak. And I think that's the balance between Q3 and Q4. It's just played out in a timing perspective. I think the demand is as we expected. I mean, I think we feel good about the year overall. We're going to deliver almost 6% organic revenue growth, 17% EPS growth. So the year is kind of playing out as we expected as well. So I think we feel good. It's just timing, not really pulling as much.
The next question comes from Tommy Mull Stevens. Please go ahead.
Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. Morning, Tommy. For the fourth quarter, I want to unpack the assumption around budget flush. So maybe we could take it in two parts. Can you quantify what you're assuming for ELO from a top-line perspective in Q4? And then if we back that out, what does the sequential quarter-over-quarter look like there? I think typically you see some year-end flush, but I just want to hear you talk about what you're assuming for this year. Thank you.
Yeah, Tommy, I'll take that. I think, as Bill mentioned, you know, I would say the first thing is holding the full-year organic growth rate consistent to what we had guided back in August, and we believe that provides a balanced view of the current environment that Bill had talked about relative and with some of the Some of those orders being realized a bit earlier ahead of the quarter. So if you look at our Q4 guide, nine and a half percent growth, as we said in the prepared remarks, about eight and a half points of that is just due to the ELO as well as Photo Neo and FX. ELO, we have in the guide of $100 million. So in line with what we had talked about last quarter in terms of their overall revenue profile. And we're getting about a point of price. which really leaves that organic demand flat, if you look at it from a year-on-year perspective. And I'd say the way to think about it is we see year-end spend just similar levels as we saw last year. As you recall, we had a nice year-end as we exited 2024, and we're seeing similar levels of spend and pipeline here as we go in towards the year-end. So that's obviously one we're paying close attention to, as well as, as Bill mentioned, monitoring what's going on within Europe, the government shutdown, and everything else that's going around the world. But I think that's the way to think about the Q4, which is excluding FX pricing and M&A, you really have kind of a flat demand really driven by that year-end project spend being at similar levels to last year.
Thank you, Nathan. I wanted to ask about RFID. You framed some of the recent success there. There's been a pretty high-profile announcement recently in the fresh category from one of the omni-channel leaders. I'm curious, are you able to comment if your business should benefit from that recent update? Or maybe if you're not, anything you can do to comment on forward visibility on RFID? Are there things in your pipeline that are continuing to suggest some of those elevated growth rates? Thank you.
Yeah, I'd say, Tommy, we clearly have seen, you know, strong double-digit growth rates, you know, on RFID over the past several years, and we continue to see a pipeline of opportunity across the entire supply chain, whether it's across retail or now T&L continues to to deploy projects across RFID manufacturing government. I would say in retail, we're seeing, you know, grocery, as you said, fresh opportunities. So, you know, in retail beyond general merchandise, opportunities into quick serve restaurants, into healthcare. So I would say the broader track and trace across supply chains, across multiple verticals, all know creates growth opportunities for us you know as you know we're the you know we have the broadest set of rfid solutions in the market today across fixed and handheld readers um across you know uh near you know um new releases of our mobile computing devices that have rfid integrated within them our printing portfolio the labels associated with that So all of that allows us to continue to be excited about RFID and moving forward. And yes, I think things like Fresh and Grocery and others just create more and more demand for our solutions. I think the customers that have deployed solutions to date continue to see value and continue to expand their the use cases that they've deployed already inside their environment. So RFID, I think, continues to be a growth driver for us, you know, moving forward.
The next question comes from Keith Husam with North Coast Reach Search. Please go ahead.
Great. Good morning, guys. Hey, Bill, I just want to unpack a little bit more your commentary regarding AI and the opportunity there, understanding that it's, you know, the long game here. It sounds like the opportunity from a hardware perspective is adding more wearable devices, but also perhaps an acceleration of the refresh cycle. I guess one, is that true? And then second, will these devices in the AI world, will they need a more higher-end device compared to what perhaps they're using today?
Yeah, so I think you hit it spot on. I think the opportunity is, you know, certainly with higher or premium devices, higher end devices, you know, which we'd look to drive higher ASPs. And over time, we would see that being a driver for the refresh cycle as, you know, new technology would be that. So, you know, think faster processor, more memory on mobile devices. We see that we're the global leader today in wearable technology for enterprise, and we see there's an opportunity there as well to pair Think body cam type devices, you know, with a mobile device, things that can sense the environment, see the environment. So we'll be leveraging the mobile device in certain applications, but also wearable technology could be, you know, almost watch-like technology that we've released recently as well. So different form factors and wearables, as we're seeing across the customer base today. So hardware clearly, mobile computing and wearable, and then software offerings. So, you know, I think if we kind of wind all the way back, Zebra's solutions of digitizing and automating the environment become kind of fundamental for AI collecting data on the front line that allows this sense-analyze act, right? Sense what's happening at the point of productivity so you can analyze it with AI and then take the next best action within your business. So our solutions fundamentally drive models in AI. That's what we do, provide data. So you got to start there. AI used throughout multiple solutions today across different applications of software, robotics, 3D quality inspection today. So traditional AI used across our portfolio. The revenue you talked about from mobile devices and wearables, and then software on top of that. So think of our Zebra companions and what we're doing in our AI suite that layers on top of software offerings on the mobile device to either manage those models for our customers. So think models on the device need to be managed or think of it actually applications that Zebra provides in the idea of AI agent all create opportunities for us. And as I said, likely first revenues in 26 and scaling from there. Great.
Thank you. I appreciate that detail. And just as a follow-up, is, you know, retail and e-commerce, you know, probably we're on a fifth or sixth quarter at least of, you know, contributing to the growth of the company. Is there a visibility to how long that's sustainable? And again, you're looking at historical information. Is it usually over the two-year period that these things go through a refresh cycle, then kind of another vertical is going to be expected to kind of take over and drive growth from there?
Yeah, not necessarily. I would say that we've seen strength in retail and e-commerce, but we've got to remember that e-commerce continues to grow. We talked about some of this product being used for peak. It really driven some of that by the e-commerce players as they continue to deploy devices to meet peak demand. I would say You know, this whole idea of refresh cycle, everyone's on a different time frame and cycle, whether that's retail or T&L or, you know, postal or others. And they're all on their own cycle, meaning that every retailer is on a different cycle and every e-commerce is more. They don't do that same type of refresh. They buy over time. But I would say T&L the same way. So I don't think it switches from one vertical to the other. I think, look, we'd like all geographies and all vertical markets to be up all at the same time. It just doesn't quite work that way. You know, today we're seeing strength in retail and e-commerce. You know, transportation logistics has gone to more normalized levels, and we're seeing growth there. Manufacturing, pretty flat. Tough comparing health care. So I think that while we'd like to see everything up and right all the time, I don't think there's a transition away from retail and e-commerce to something else. I think, you know, we'd like to see growth across all of them. And there's no reason why not. But I think things like manufacturing remains pretty challenging in the short term.
The next question comes from Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. I guess my first question, just the margin divergence between the two segments, asset intelligence and tracking, the margins seem to be doing better this year, whereas last year the two segments were flat. So just If you could sort of unpack that, is tariffs hitting one of those segments more than the other? And then I know you talked about being able to cover tariffs for the most part in 2026. Any nuances on how would it impact the segments? And I guess we can talk about it within the new segmentation, but any color on that for 2026 as well. Thanks.
Yeah, Jamie, I wouldn't say there's anything specific driving the gross margin difference between the two variables in terms of unique. I think just some of that is a bit of the mix within the portfolio. You see the strong growth in AIT, so you're getting nice volume leverage there across our printing portfolio. That's also where you have the RFID growth kind of coming through in terms of the higher margin profile. So I think so much is timing of mix between the portfolios. As Bill mentioned, data capture was down. in Q3 or in the EVM segment, which has, you know, again, nice operating or nice gross margin profile. So again, I think that more just mixed within the portfolio quarter to quarter versus a, let's say a fundamental shift between the two. Yeah. And I think, you know, as we mentioned, we expect to fully mitigate tariffs as we go into next year. So you'd expect maybe a modest amount in Q1, but fully mitigated as we go into the second quarter with some additional actions that team's been working. See, again, I think the, Primarily, that will be benefiting within the AIT segment. So that's, again, where we have across EVM, that's where we have the mobile computing exemption today. So most of that benefit you'll see in AIT as we cycle into next year with some of the additional actions we have planned later this year and early part of next.
Okay. I guess just my second question just on ELO. So I think you said for the fourth quarter that contributes $100 million in revenues, which is in line with the $400 million of annual sales that you talked about when you announced the acquisition last quarter. Any thoughts? I mean, I think that's a business that you've said has grown 5% to 7% through the cycle, similar to you guys. Any thoughts on ELO as you're thinking about 2026? Thanks.
Yeah, I would say that we continue to be excited about the acquisition. It certainly further positions us as a strategic partner to our customers across multiple vertical markets. And the breadth and depth of their portfolio married with ours gives us more strategic partnering opportunities with our customers overall. I would say that You know, as you said, similar growth profile to Zebra, similar value proposition as well. Purpose-built hardware, enterprise-ready, you know, platform just like our mobility DNA, software tools that seamlessly integrate into an enterprise environment. All those are the reasons why our customers buy mobile computing from us, and it's the same reason why, you know, customers buy, you You know, we closed in early Q4, I would say, you know, performing as expected in, you know, overall at the moment. And we don't see any change to that. We see opportunities into next year, including, you know, continued POS rollout or point of sale rollout solutions at a, you know, very large retailer. We continue to see new opportunities and new wins from their business in the, you know, self-serve kiosk and some of the largest stores. you know, quick serve restaurants around the world. We're continuing, we're working closely with them, our teams together and progressing, you know, our operational synergies, both in the revenue and the cost side. And those are early days, but progressing as we expected. So we feel good overall about their business, their growth profile, you know, as we enter Q4 or go through Q4 and then into 26th.
The next question comes from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Hi, this is Marianne from META. I have two questions for you. The first is on the pricing actions related to tariffs. So given the pricing actions that were taken to offset the tariff costs, what kind of impact are you seeing from these pricing actions on customer demand? And then my second question is on the OBBBA tax impacts. Can you walk us through how the OBBA is expected to impact your effective tax rate and cash taxes going forward? Thanks.
Yeah, so on the first one, I'm going to speak to the pricing impact. So we're seeing some nice benefit from the pricing actions we announced back earlier this year. So we increased from our prior guide the expected annual benefit, which now we expect to be around $60 million or a point of growth. on an annual basis from our prior guide of $40 million. So again, some nice momentum here as we work through the third quarter in terms of overall price realization. I'd say we haven't really seen that dramatic of an impact on demand. I mean, as Bill mentioned, the year pretty much played out as we expected, both from first half, second half. So we haven't seen a major shift or pullback in demand. And I think what we hear from our channel partners is that the pricing actions we take in our are in line with a lot of our competitors across the industry where tariffs have had an impact. So again, we feel good about the momentum there. And again, as we said, trying to, you know, fully mitigating the impact of the current tariffs as we go into next year. If you look at the impact on the new tax bill, as we said in the last guide, this year we expect about a $50, $60 million reduction in our cash taxes. due to the ability to amortize the current R&D deductible, or deduct R&D in the full amount of that. We expect about over $200 million over the next two years, a little over $200 million in the next two years of incremental cash benefit from the change in the tax bill. But it did result, if you notice in our guide, we increased our expected tax rate to 18%. Part of that is just reflecting the impact of the tax bill with some of the new permanent rate effects as well as just a shift in income. So a modest impact on the overall tax rate, but again, a bigger benefit on the lower cash taxes expected over the next two years.
The next question comes from Joe Giordano with TD Cohen. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning, Joe. So when you talked last year into the fourth quarter, I felt like you had guided in a way that took the market risk largely out, right? You were guiding to things that were in hand and backlogged and kind of volumes came in better than you expected and it was upside to your guide. Now, this quarter you're talking about flows similar to last year, but is that element of like we're not baking in much in terms of what we're not seeing directly in the market, is that still a fair way to categorize like the nature of how you're guiding? And just curious what the EPS accretion you have from from Elo when there is, and then I have a follow-up.
Maybe I'll start and hand to Nate. I would say that, Joe, overall, customers are generally moving ahead with planned projects. I would say they're hesitant to accelerate future projects based on macro uncertainty and the trade policy and the secondary impacts of the trade policy clearly on their business. Parcel slowing, for instance, in transportation logistics because of the trade policy is an example of that. So I think while they're generally moving ahead, we haven't seen an acceleration of projects or moving in projects based on this uncertainty. But I think the discussions with our partners and customers hasn't fundamentally changed. That's why we're saying the demand trajectory feels about the same as it did when we talked last quarter. And the need for our solutions certainly hasn't changed, as you saw some buying early in peak to be able to meet their demands of their customers. So we're still essential. A lot of it's about timing. So I think we saw above the, close to the high end of our guide for Q3, I think we see you know, Q4 playing out as we expected for the year. I mean, again, as I said earlier, nearly 6% organic revenue growth, 17% EPS growth for the year. But I think that overall, I think the macro environment and the trade policy uncertainty and the ramifications of their business is, you know, having customers hold back a little bit on, do I advance future projects?
Joe, maybe a little additional color. I think I characterize the guy we had last year, which was to your point, we assumed very little urine spend in terms of above and beyond what we kind of had, you know, clear line of sight too. And obviously that came in better than expected as we exited the year where, where this year we're assuming a similar level of urine spend as we did last year. So obviously some of that we have in hand, but the team has to go convert pipeline here, you know, over the next six weeks, six to eight weeks to close out the year. So I think characterize that's how I characterize the difference between this year's guide and next year's And last year is on terms of those expectations around year end. And then just your question on the ELO EPS impact, it's about $0.10. So if you look at the, you know, for the full year, we raised the guide about $0.30. Some of the better tariffs basically split a third, a third, a third between lower tariff, ELO, and a little bit of favorability on overall interest rates and share counts.
And then the follow-up, and we kind of talked about this a little bit, but as you think into next year, I'm not trying to pin you down, but like, as we're coming off here, you had a big COVID deployments and you had kind of a multi-year decline as we're kind of bouncing modestly off that, like what reasons, if any, would you kind of like talk us off of thinking that next year, at least from where we're sitting now, like shouldn't be at least in the range that you would see in a cycle?
Yeah. I mean, I, Again, we're not, you know, we're not guiding the 26 as you acknowledged. I think that today we're clearly seeing, you know, customers remain a bit caution in the near term is, and because of that, we're seeing, you know, some uneven demand environments overall. You know, EMEA example manufacturing, you know, across different vertical segments. Some cases it just tough compares in case of, you know, DCS, but I'd say, You know, we feel good about driving sustainable, profitable growth into next year across the business. And I think we've got to play out Q4 here and, you know, we'll provide more guidance come, you know, first quarter.
The next question comes from Rob Mason with Bayard. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys. Good morning. Bill, I just wanted to touch on, you know, thinking about demand as you go into next year or finish up fourth quarter. You know, a couple of your geographies, you've already talked about EMEA being softer. We saw some of that in the second quarter, and it continued on here. I'm just curious maybe what the month-to-month or quarterly trend looked like in that region as you entered the fourth quarter. And then also if you could address, you know, maybe conversely just AsiaPAC, that's been double digit now for, I guess, five quarters. Is that broadening out your customer base there? Is it kind of project specific? You know, I'm just kind of curious what's driving the strength and how you see AsiaPAC as you look forward as well.
Yeah, maybe cover all the geographies. I would say North America, you know, strength in mobile computing and printing, tough compare in DCS we talked about. Peak demand is we're already covered in retail and e-commerce, you know, in Q3, a bit of pull in there. Continued strength in RFID, you know, as we talked about the use cases there. Large and mid-tier customers and orders were up in in North America, I would say, again, as we talk about, you know, trade policy, Canada, you know, demand softer in Q3 in North America. EMEA, I would say about the same as we saw in Q2 when we called out. It's really mixed performance in EMEA. If I added color, I would say Northern Europe continues to do well in retail and transportation logistics, where places like Germany in manufacturing or France retail continues to be But I say, you know, mixed throughout EMEA, but ultimately down in Q3. Asia Pacific, you called it out, strong growth in Asia Pacific. You know, we talked about opportunities around the world and leveraging our go-to-market. And we talked about the investment in Japan. So Japan was a strength. You know, as we focused in that, focused there, new applications in the, you know, in the postal service in Japan, where we won early device wins for postal carriers, now we're deploying devices in post offices. So, again, speak to the strength of our go-to-market organization, shifting resources into places where we have lower market share, They want to drive growth. So that's a good example in Asia. Another is India. So we continue to see growth in the India market as others have called out as well. I think, you know, around the globe, stronger GDP in India. Australia and New Zealand continues to be a strength in Asia. So feel good there. We don't talk a lot about it, but Latin America, you know, record quarter in Latin America and broadband strength, you know, in the Latin America region. So we feel good about you know, Latin America, even though we don't talk a lot about it typically. So that's kind of the spread and the difference across the different geographies. That's helpful.
Just as a follow-up, obviously you talked about taking your or committed to share repurchases over the next 12 months. You did, you know, you have seen the stock comp tick up. Nathan, I was just curious if you could kind of address that, you know, how that will trend Any thoughts into 26 and kind of what's driving the increase in the stock comp?
Yeah, so I think two things. We talked earlier in the year with somewhat of just a change in the design of the plan that had us accelerate some of the expense within the P&L. So no change in the overall comp, but just from an accounting perspective, we had to accrue a bit more of it early in the year. So as you see that play out over the next couple of years, you'll see the offset. And then this quarter in particular was just a true up with coming out of our strap plan, truing up the performance and some of the performance shares and doing a, you know, kind of a accumulated catch up. So I think this year, this quarter was a bit of an anomaly and, in terms of the higher expense, and we'd expect that to normalize back out as we go into Q4, and then next year start to more normalize back to historical levels. Again, this year had some changes based on the accounting change as well as now just the true up on the performance shares.
The next question comes from Guy Hardwick with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good morning.
Morning. Morning.
A great job on the supply chain, navigating supply chain challenges. Obviously, it stands out that you intend to take China to below 20% of U.S. imports. Where do you think that goes to long term? And what do you think kind of the footprint of contract manufacturers will look like, say, a year from now?
Yeah, I can take that. I think, look, as you mentioned, I think the team's done a phenomenal job over the last two years. I really, you'd probably say six years, driving that from, you know, as you talked about, you know, over 80% concentration for North America in China now down to, you know, 20% and below that as we go into next year. Look, I think there'll be a certain portion that will remain for, you know, it's hard to see an exit, just particularly around some of the components that are, you know, really there's only one source for those and we still use those and need to import those for service or, you know, and those types of things. So, we're probably getting close into the teens where you start to get outside of some major shifts in component manufacturing, you kind of hit a baseline there. So again, I think what we've focused on is broader resilience, making sure we have multiple options, whether that's with our supply base, with our contract manufacturers, so that, again, whether it's tariffs or or any other natural disaster, what you might have is a resilient supply chain that we can mix and move production around the world to navigate those challenges. Because that's the one thing I think we've learned over the last five years is that there will be something and we need to have a resilient supply chain to manage through those. And again, I think the team's done a great job of balancing resilience with cost to get us to the footprint we have today.
And just as a follow-up, I know, Bill, you answered a couple of questions on this book. what point does technological obsolescence on the installed base and EMC actually force customers to drive, to upgrade if they really want to benefit from a Gentic AI, whether it's your products or whether it's Zebra products or other people's products?
Yeah, I think that if you're, you know, again, it creates an opportunity. AI clearly creates an opportunity for technology driven refresh on, you know, the mobile devices as you want to move to, faster processing speeds, and more memory if you want to run the models on the device, which we're seeing many of our customers want to do. We see a combination of leveraging AI on the device and leveraging AI in the cloud, depending on the specific application. But in both cases, we think this you know, leads and attributes to the refresh cycle, you know, upcoming. The number of mobile devices continues to, you know, grow in the marketplace since pre-pandemic. And, you know, we see that, you know, our customers all upgrade on different refresh cycles. And this will be another reason to go do that. Things like health of their device, longevity, how long it's been in the marketplace, devices just get broken down. They get older in others. Technology moves on. Cyber security is another driver. But from a technology perspective, AI is going to be one of those. I think we see the refresh cycle opportunity as being really, you know, multi-year and driven by, you know, driving sustainable growth for, you know, our growth profile as a company. And we don't see it, you know, the kind of pandemic-based, you know, compressed concentrated acceleration cycle. We see it more driving, you know, sustainable growth for us as a business. And there'll be lots of factors into that and AI will be one of them.
The next question comes from Brad Hewitt with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning guys. Good morning. So as it relates to the $500 million buyback that you expect to execute over the next four quarters, how dynamic is that number? Should we think of that as more of a minimum threshold? And then how do you think about cadence of deployment and why not execute this as an ASR? Thank you.
Yeah, so, again, I think right now we're just committed to the $500 million. You know, we'll see that. You know, I think the best way to think about that is spread out over the next four quarters and we'll be dynamic, you know, taking advantage of opportunities that we see in the volatility in the stock. But, you know, again, making sure we show more of that consistent return over the next several quarters and really wanting to, you know, commit to that given, you know, we've been kind of silent on the commitment as we move into future periods, but we felt like, you know, it was the right time to make that commitment given the overall profile we have and our debt leverage ratio here as we exit the year. And I think we just think that, you know, doing it through the open market right now provides, you know, more of a benefit. It lets us more manage, you know, the return and the timing of that versus, you know, uploading it, you know, upfronting that through an ASR.
Okay, that's helpful. And then, as we think about the key for outlook, it looks like the implied incremental margins are about 25%, both on a year by year basis and sequential basis, compared to typical, you know, 30% plus incrementals. So I guess curious, just is that margin outlook embedding a little bit of conservatism? Or is there anything that you would expect to limit the drop through and key for?
No, I think the only thing, typically in Q4, we see a little bit higher mix of large deals. So you see a little bit of mixed dynamic because we go from Q3 to Q4. But nothing unusual, I'd say, from a timing or margin profile within either one of the quarters to fall out.
The next question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks. Can you talk a little bit more about the machine vision business? And, you know, I know you talked about softness and manufacturing. How has that business been doing? And then kind of the bigger picture is, are there any of these other, you know, like RFID and other growth engine type businesses that you'd call out that are, you know, that are in that double digit growth range or high single digit range that are being the growth drivers that we want them to be?
Yeah, I would say that from a machine vision perspective, we saw growth in machine vision software as we've got leveraging our differentiation in our software across machine vision. I would say overall machine vision declined in the quarter for us, really pressured in the areas in which we compete. So we've seen now stabilization in kind of semiconductor manufacturing where we're embedded in those solutions. So that's a positive, you know, news moving forward, but certainly negative in the quarter. And then, you know, some new areas that we had, you know, the focus of the go-to-market teams has been diversification away from semiconductor manufacturing and into new markets. One of those markets was a lot of spend was happening in new bills of EV auto manufacturing, but that is now slowed. So another driver of the weak quarter. I would say that our focus is really on go-to-market initiatives to expand specific markets that are growing. and leverage our advanced technology into use cases where we're leveraging this strength of our software portfolio along with things like 3D vision to be able to win new opportunities and customers and to be able to then get a footprint in those customers and expand it from there. That's really the focus of our go-to-market teams. We're excited about this market, you know, longer term, clearly doing more in manufacturing from our perspective is important to us. And we think that, you know, continues to be an opportunity for us. We talked about RFID already. RFID facilities continues to be, you know, a strength for us across, you know, the vertical markets, I would say. Inside other segments, I think the tablet opportunity within our mobile computing is another opportunity for us. I think the next generation of task management in software is an area we've been focused. So, you know, we're a leader in task management software. We see next generation opportunities to that as we evolve task management into more communication, collaboration with our customers to drive software growth, you know, over time, leverage with our mobile devices.
The last question comes from Katie Flesher with KeyBank. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. I just had one question just to kind of go back to the margins for Q. Is there anything that we should think about for the segments that's different from this quarter, or is it fair to assume that those margins are pretty steady?
Yeah, they're pretty steady between the segments between Q3 and Q4, so I wouldn't see any major changes around the gross margin profile between the segments quarter to quarter.
This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bill Burns for any closing remarks.
Yeah, I'd like to thank our employees and our partners as they've, you know, delivered a strong Q3 results. And ultimately, you know, I would like to extend a warm welcome to the ELO team as, you know, we kick off our exciting journey together moving forward. Thank you.
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