Zynga Inc.

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

8/5/2021

spk11: Thank you for standing by and welcome to Zynga's second quarter 2021 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your touchtone telephone. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. Should you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Rebecca Lau. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you, Lateef, and welcome to Zynga's second quarter 2021 earnings call. On the call with me today are Frank Jabot, our Chief Executive Officer, and Jer Griffin, our Chief Financial Officer. Shortly, we will open up the call for live questions. During the course of today's call, we will make forward-looking statements related to our business plan and strategy, as well as expectations for our future performance. Actual results may differ materially from the results predicted. Please review the risk factors in our most recently filed Form 10-Q as well as elsewhere in our SEC filings for further clarification. In addition, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures. Our earnings letter, earnings slides, and when filed, our 10-Q will include reconciliations of our GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Please be sure to look at these reconciliations as the non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for or superior to our GAAP results. This conference call is being webcasted and will be available for audio replay on our investor relations website in a few hours. Now, I'll turn the call over to Frank for his opening remarks.
spk06: Thank you, Rebecca. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q2 earnings call. We delivered strong results this quarter ahead of guidance, including our best-ever Q2 revenue bookings and operating cash flow. This Q2 performance capped off a dynamic first half of the year for Zynga, and reflects our team's continued commitment to connect the world through games during these unprecedented times. Today, we are making several exciting announcements that demonstrate significant progress on our long-term growth strategy. While we will discuss each of these in more detail later on the call, I would like to start by officially welcoming the ChartBoost team to Zynga following the close of our acquisition just a day ago. In addition, we are also excited to announce our agreement to acquire Starlark, the makers of the hit franchise golf rival. We look forward to welcoming this talented team to Zynga later in Q4. Starting with our Q2 performance. In the quarter, we delivered our highest ever Q2 revenue of $720 million, up 59% year-over-year, and record Q2 bookings of $712 million, an increase of 37% year-over-year. Our top line performance combined with positive operating leverage generated our highest ever Q2 operating cash flow of $161 million. Our strong Q2 results were driven by our diverse portfolio of leading mobile franchises and our live services platform. By leveraging our best in class data science, product management, user acquisition, and advertising capabilities, our teams are able to release innovative bold beats to engage and attract players. For example, in Q2, the release of a new Disco Fever bold beat in Toon Blast and the introduction of a Teams feature in Toy Blast drove strong performances in both of these franchises as we approached Peak's first anniversary at Zynga. In Harry Potter's Puzzles and Spells, our release of a club-based magical mischief event also provided a new way for players to engage and compete between teams. Within our portfolio, Social Casino also continues to deliver incredible results. Social Slots achieved yet another all-time best revenue and bookings quarter, while Zynga Poker also delivered its best Q2 revenue and bookings performance in nine years. During the quarter, we also generated our all-time best advertising revenue and bookings performance. Words with Friends delivered its best Q2 revenue and bookings in the franchise's 12-year history, driven by its recent introductions of Rewards Pass and new solo challenge content. Rollick also delivered a record top-line quarter and was the fastest-growing hyper-casual game company in the world, measured by sequential growth in downloads. By leveraging its unique development process that incorporates key data insights and rigorous testing, Rollick is demonstrating its unique ability to repeatedly design and publish hit titles in this competitive category. For example, in April and May, Hair Challenge reached the number one top free downloaded game position in the US App Store and Google Play, while Queen Bee reached number one on top free downloaded game position in the US App Store and Google Play in June. Overall, we are pleased with our performance in the first half of 2021, and are especially excited about the growth potential that lies ahead of us. In the short term, however, we are navigating market dynamics related to the great reopening and Apple's privacy changes that have created choppiness in our business. Toward the end of Q2, as communities began to reopen and reduce their COVID-19 restrictions, we saw softness in our bookings primarily driven by declines in player cohorts who installed our games in the early part of 2021. At the same time, the adoption of Apple's privacy changes resulted in a higher cost to acquire new players. In response, we scaled back our UA spend to maintain targeted returns, resulting in fewer players installing our games during this period. We believe these trends are short-term in nature. We are already seeing improvements in user acquisition yields, and within our core audience that accounts for the vast majority of our bookings, we continue to see strong engagement and monetization. As we progress through the second half of the year, we are also increasing the number of bold beats across our live services to further engage and monetize our player base. Given these short-term market dynamics, we are adjusting our live services outlook for the remainder of 2021, as well as moving the launch of FarmVille 3 from Q3 to Q4. While we are revising our top line expectations for the full year, we are maintaining our profitability guidance for 2021, which Jer will tell you more about shortly on this call. As we look ahead, we are incredibly excited by our positioning within the dynamic and fast-growing interactive entertainment sector and the multiple catalysts that we have in place to deliver strong top line growth and margin expansion in the years ahead. Execution of our multi-year growth strategy enables Zynga to drive recurring organic growth from our expanding live services portfolio and new game pipeline. In addition, we are investing in hyper-casual games, cross-platform play, international expansion, and advertising technologies, all of which have the ability to meaningfully increase Zynga's total addressable market and further enhance our competitive advantage and growth potential within the interactive entertainment industry. Since our last update, we have made notable progress across the following key aspects of our growth strategy. First, our upcoming new game launches will be meaningful organic drivers for Zynga in 2022. We are in the final stages of soft launch for Farmville 3, a brand new mobile experience designed to captivate the imagination of players who have enjoyed Farmville over the past decade, as well as the enthusiasms for a new generation of gamers. We now expect to launch Farmville 3 to players worldwide in Q4. In addition, Star Wars Hunters has been hitting key production milestones in development and will soon enter soft launch on mobile in select test markets in Q4. The title's multiplayer, action-oriented, cross-platform gameplay is generating exceptionally positive initial feedback, and we are building on this momentum by creating new features and modes within the game. Our global studios are also making strong progress on our exciting new game pipeline, and we expect to test market more new titles in 2022. Second, Rollick's hyper-casual games portfolio recently surpassed 1 billion total downloads worldwide. This tremendous milestone further establishes Rollick as one of the largest hyper-casual publishers in the world, with 15 games that have reached the number one or number two top free downloaded games position in the US App Store, as well as three titles, Hair Challenge, High Heels, and Tanglemaster 3D, which have each generated over 100 million downloads worldwide. As this style of gaming continues to evolve, we see the potential for some of Rolex's most popular games to scale into sustainable live service franchises and we are investing in features to further engage and entertain these audiences. For example, in June, High Heels featured a first-of-its-kind partnership with Kenneth Cole, debuting the iconic designer's Pride 2021 collection in-game to celebrate diversity and raise awareness for the Mental Health Coalition. In Hair Challenge, Rollick has also released its first major bold beat, Leaderboards, which drove an immediate lift in player engagement. Third, with the close of our acquisition of ChartBoost, we are meaningfully expanding our advertising and monetization platform. ChartBoost enables Zynga to reach a new level of audience scale and meaningfully enhances our competitive advantage in the mobile ecosystem. Together, Zynga and ChartBoost possess all the elements of a complete next-generation platform. High-quality content, direct player relationships, massive reach, and full-stack advertising technology that can be applied across Zynga's game portfolio and chart-boost advertising partners. Fourth, today we are announcing our agreement to acquire Starlark, the China-based development team of Golf Rival, the fast-growing and second-largest mobile golf game in the world. This acquisition brings to Zynga a talented team with proven ability to create a global casual hit with additional new products and early developments. Starlark also expands Zynga's international presence by establishing a China-based studio with access to the region's creative talent base. Together, Zynga and Starlark are well-positioned to grow golf rival faster together following the expected close of the acquisition in Q4. In summary, we remain incredibly excited by the ongoing growth trends within interactive entertainment, as well as Zynga's unique position as one of the leading mobile game developers and publishers in the world. Our investments to date have added meaningful scale to Zynga's portfolio, while also expanding our studios, enhancing our platform capabilities, and amplifying our collaborative culture. While we are navigating some short-term market dynamics, we remain confident that ongoing execution of our multi-year growth strategy will position us for continued top-line growth and improved operating leverage in the coming years. This, in turn, will generate more long-term value for our players, teams, and shareholders. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Jer to discuss our Q2 results and forward outlook in more detail.
spk14: Thank you, Frank. We capped off a great first half performance with strong Q2 results ahead of our guidance delivering our best Q2 revenue and bookings in Zynga history. We've also made great progress in key aspects of our multi-year growth strategy. On the talent front, I would like to echo Frank and welcome the ChartBoost team to Zynga and look forward to unlocking the growth and synergy opportunities within our advertising platform in 2022 and beyond. Today, we were also pleased to announce that we've entered into an agreement to acquire China-based Starlark, developer of Gulf Rifle. Later in this call, I will outline some more details of this acquisition. While we are pleased with our performance to date and our overall business fundamentals, we are adjusting our live service outlook for the remainder of 2021, as well as that from new games to reflect two market dynamics, namely communities reopening with the easing of COVID-19 restrictions and the rollout of Apple's privacy changes. While we are revising our top line expectations for the full year, we are maintaining our previously communicated profitability guidance for 2021. but more on guidance later. Let's discuss Q2 results. Revenue was $720 million, comprised of bookings of $712 million and a net release in deferred revenue of $8 million. Revenue was $45 million ahead of our guidance, driven by a $2 million booking speed and a $43 million lower than expected net change in deferred revenue. Life Services drove our record Q2 top line results. with better-than-expected delivery from Rolex's hypercasual portfolio, Words with Friends, and Zynga Poker, partially offset by lower-than-expected user pay across our portfolio towards the end of the quarter. Revenue was up $268 million or 59% year-over-year, driven by a bookings growth of $194 million or 37% year-over-year and $75 million swing in the net change in deferred revenue. We generated user pay revenue of $587 million, up 51% year-over-year, and user pay bookings of $579 million, up 27% year-over-year. This was driven primarily by our mobile life services, including full quarter contributions from Toon Blast, Toy Blast, Harry Potter Puzzles and Spell, partially offset by declines primarily in Merge Dragons, Empires and Puzzles, and Merge Magic, as we lapped heightened levels of engagement and monetization we experienced in Q2 2020. Advertising revenue and bookings were both a record $133 million, up 110% and 111% year-over-year, respectively, primarily driven by the year-over-year addition of an ongoing momentum in Rolex's hyper-casual portfolio, as well as year-over-year strength in advertising yields. The net release and deferred revenue of $8 million was primarily driven by Merge Dragons and Empress and Puzzles, partially offset by the recently launched Harry Potter Puzzles and Spells and Puzzle Combat. We ended Q2 with a deferred revenue balance of $775 million versus $523 million a year ago. Turning to Q2 operating expenses. GAAP operating expenses were 392 million, down 10 million or 2% year-over-year, while non-GAAP operating expenses were 350 million, up 128 million or 57% year-over-year. Year-over-year, GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses increased due to the step-up driven by the incremental expenses from our acquisitions in 2020 and Q1 2021. In particular, The increase was primarily attributable to development and marketing expenses for Toon Blast and Toy Blast, as well as Relic's hyper-casual portfolio. Outside of this step up for acquisitions, other drivers were the increase in growth marketing on Harry Potter Puzzles and Spells, Puzzle Combat, and a slight ramp in R&D investment in our new game pipeline, including cross-platform play projects in development. On a gap basis, the increases These increases were more than offset by the year-over-year decrease in contingent consideration, with gap operating expenses significantly down to 54% of revenue from 89% in the prior year. Non-gap operating expenses increased to 49% of bookings from 43%, with greater operating leverage in R&D and G&A largely offset by higher marketing investments year-over-year. We reported net income of $28 million, $58 million better than our guidance, and an improvement of $178 million versus our net loss of $150 million a year ago. The variance to guidance was primarily driven by the impact of the net change in deferred revenue, lower contingent consideration expense, and our stronger operating performance, partially offset by higher income taxes and net other income expense. The variance the prior year was primarily driven by lower contingent consideration expense, the impact of the net change in deferred revenue, and our stronger operating performance, partially offset by higher amortization of acquired intangibles, stock-based compensation, and net other income and expense. Our adjusted EBITDA was 174 million, 59 million better than our guidance, and an increase of 104 million euro per year. The variance to guidance and prior year was primarily driven by the net change in deferred revenue and our stronger operating performance. We generated record Q2 operating cash flow of $161 million, up 11% year-over-year. As of June 30th, we have approximately $1.5 billion of cash and investments, which we expect to use primarily to fund acquisitions, including the recent close of ChartBoost, the future close of Starlark, as well as payment of existing contingent consideration obligations. In Q2, we executed an amended purchase agreement for Rollick, which eliminates the existing earn-out mechanism and accelerated the purchase by Zynga of the remaining 20% of Rollick. Rollick is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Zynga, which allows us to fully integrate the business and gives us greater latitude to invest and gain future growth opportunities. The total agreed cash consideration is $60 million, with $20 million paid in July 2021 and the remaining $40 million to be paid in February 2022. In July 2021, we also executed the final earn-out payment of $75 million related to the acquisition of Grand Games. Effective August 4th, we closed the acquisition of ChartBoost for a total purchase price of approximately $250 million in cash. We also have $425 million available under our credit facility, which had no amounts outstanding as of June 30th. Now I would like to outline some additional points related to our acquisition of Starlark, developer of the hit franchise, Golf Rival. This acquisition brings to Zynga a talented China-based mobile game studio and a hit global franchise. Golf Rifle has rapidly grown to become the second largest mobile casual golf game in the world, with approximately 6 million downloads in 2021 alone. The purchase consideration is $525 million, comprising approximately $350 million of cash and approximately $210 million of Zenga common stock, issued at approximately $10.50 per share, being the average closing price per share over the 30-day trading period ended August 2nd. The final closing consideration will also include customary closing adjustments, and we expect the transaction to close in the fourth quarter of 2021. There is no earn-out associated with this acquisition. We estimate that the purchase price represents a mid- to high-teens EBITDA multiple based on initial financial estimates for the business for 2021 and 2022. Given that the transaction is not closed, our updated 2021 guidance, which I will outline shortly, does not assume any contribution or benefits from this acquisition. Once integrated, we expect this acquisition will be immediately accretive to Zynga's top line. Now to guidance. Our Q3 and full year 21 guidance has been developed based on the information available to us today, August 5th, 2021, and on similar methodology to prior quarters. Given the level of continued volatility and uncertainty around the COVID-19 pandemic and Apple's privacy changes, there is the potential for a wider range of outcomes, both positive and negative, as it relates to our ultimate business results. In the context of our latest guidance, given the short-term market dynamics noted by Frank, we are adjusting our live services and new game revenues and bookings outlook for the remainder of 2021. While we are revising our full year top line expectations, we are maintaining our profitability guidance for 2021. Now let's discuss Q3 and 2021 guidance. Our Q3 guidance is as follows. Revenue of 665 million up 162 million or 32% year over year. Net increase in deferred revenue of 5 million. Bookings of $660 million, up $32 million, or 5% year-over-year. And net loss of $110 million versus $122 million in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA of $150 million versus $38 million in the prior year quarter. Some factors to consider in assessing our Q3 guidance include our top-line performance will be driven by our live services. While we will bill it, Benefit from positive year-over-year additions of Rolex's hypercasual portfolio, as well as a full quarter contribution from Harry Potter Puzzles and Spells, we anticipate this will be partially offset by declines in Merge Dragons, Merge Magic, as well as older mobile and web titles. Outside of hypercasual game launches, our top line guidance does not assume the launch of any other titles in Q3. From an advertising perspective, given the broader adoption of Apple's privacy changes, which occurred at the end of June, we expect short-term pressure on advertising revenue and bookings to be more pronounced in Q3 than in Q2. We expect gross margins to be significantly up year over year, primarily due to the year over year change in deferred revenue. We also expect our GAAP operating expenses as a percentage of revenue to significantly improve year over year, primarily due to the net change in deferred revenue and lower contingent consideration expense, partially offset by higher stock-based compensation and acquisition-related expenses. Given the ongoing evolution of our workplace model, we are taking the opportunity to optimize our footprint in the Bay Area to better fit our needs and enhance our operating leverage. As a result, we plan to exit and sublease our primary office space in San Francisco and expect to book a charge of approximately 82 million in Q3, which is primarily related to the impairment of our existing lease and related leasehold improvements. Outside of these factors, we expect that improvements in Euro-VR operating leverage in R&D and G&A will be more than offset by higher marketing expenses as we continue to invest against growth opportunities, including Rolex hyper-casual portfolio, international expansion of our live services, and new games. Our updated 2021 guidance is as follows. Revenue of $2.725 billion, up $750 million or 38% year-over-year, an increase of $25 million versus our prior guidance. A net increase in deferred revenue of $75 million, down $220 million or 75% year-over-year, and $125 million lower than our prior guidance. Bookings of $2.8 billion, up $530 million, or 23 percent year-over-year, and a decrease of $100 million versus our prior guidance. A net loss of $135 million versus a net loss of $429 million in the prior year, and in line with our prior guidance. Adjusted EBITDA of $575 million, up $309 million, or 116 percent year-over-year, and an increase of $125 million to our prior guidance. As I noted, we have updated our full year guidance to reflect our latest live services outlook and revised timing for new game launches. While we have revised our top line expectations for the year, we are maintaining our profitability outlook in line with our prior guidance. We expect live services to drive the vast majority of our top line performance. Key drivers of year-over-year growth will be full year contributions from Toon Blast, Toy Blast, Rolex hyper-casual portfolio, and Harry Potter puzzles and spells, partially offset primarily by Merge Dragons and Merge Magic, as well as declines in older mobile and web titles. Our revised guidance now assumes the worldwide launch of Farmville 3 in Q4. While our full-year guidance now includes ChartBoost, we do not expect it to be a material revenue or bookings contributor in 2021. We do expect ChartBoost to unlock more meaningful growth opportunities and margin expansion synergies in 2022 and beyond. Our full year guidance does not include any contributions from golf rival, given our announced acquisition of Starlok has not yet closed. We anticipate a modest increase in our gross margins due to a lower net change in deferred revenue, as well as a higher mix of advertising versus user pay. partially offset by higher amortization expense from acquired intangible assets. While we expect to deliver strong absolute year-on-year growth and profitability and expansion in GAAP operating margins, we anticipate moderate compression in non-GAAP operating margins as we continue to invest in our growth strategies. In particular, marketing of our new game launches and hyper-casual portfolio, as well as cross-platform play game development. We continue to expect improvements in operating leverage in R&D and G&A, which will be more than offset by higher marketing investments against growth opportunities. We expect to generate a net loss of $135 million in line with our prior guidance, but now including a charge of $84 million primarily related to the impairment of our existing San Francisco office lease and related leasehold improvements. In Q4, We expect to see sequential growth in our top line performance, primarily driven by stronger live services, advertising seasonality, and our launch of Farmville 3, as well as modest first quarter contributions from ChartBoost. This stronger top line performance combined with ongoing cost management is expected to deliver improved operating leverage and profitability in Q4. Our execution of our growth strategy in 2021 positions Zynga for continued growth in 22, where we expect low double-digit top-line organic growth from our live services and new game launches. Over the next several years, we expect to continue to progress towards achieving our longer-term operating margin goals while generating stronger operating cash flow. With that, we will now open the call for your questions.
spk11: As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your touch-tone telephone. Again, that's star 1 on your touch-tone telephone to ask a question. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. We ask that you restrict yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mike Ng of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
spk08: Hey, good afternoon. Thank you very much for the question. I was just wondering if you could expand a little bit more on what you're seeing today in terms of the cost to acquire players as it relates to the Apple privacy changes. You mentioned scaling back on sales and marketing towards the end of the second quarter. How are you approaching that now for 3Q and then the rest of the year? Thank you very much.
spk14: Hey, Mike. You know, obviously, there's a variety of channels that we operate in, given the diversity of our portfolio and the scale of our UA. But we are seeing, you know, obviously improvements in channels now versus what we were seeing as we were going through the latter half of Q2. You know, we have scaled back our UA because, you know, as you know, we're looking for opportunities to get returns and investment that are in line with our targeted returns. And so we continue to calibrate our investment against channels where we are seeing improvements. And over the coming quarter, we expect to see that trend continue. There are still channels out there that are not optimal for us, and we're obviously not going into those channels. We're operating in channels where we do see improvement and the right kind of returns.
spk08: Great. Thanks, Jeff.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Parker of KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, thanks for the question, guys. Just on the reopening commentary in the letter, talking about a decline in newer cohorts in late Q2, just curious if there's any more color you can provide on whether that's broadly across franchises or geographies or maybe it's more nuanced than that. And secondly, it sounds like your older cohorts are still relatively strong so far. So I guess how confident are you in the older cohorts retaining well and spending further into the reopening? Thanks. Hey, Tyler.
spk06: Thanks for the question. The weakness that we saw starting to emerge in late May and in July and June was from cohorts that joined our network in 2021. So these were cohorts that were recently acquired. And as the COVID restrictions started to lift, we saw people starting to play less. I obviously had other things to do. The economies opened up. And that was an area where we started to see the weakness. That was compounded by the fact that IDFA was also hitting at the same time, so we weren't acquiring new players because we weren't seeing the paid returns. And so that's what dampened a little bit of that part of the business. Now, at the same time, players that had been with us before COVID hit, even early cohorts in COVID, they're playing as much, they're engaged as much, if not more, and also monetizing more. So For the vast majority of our revenue, that audience base is very resilient, very strong, and even through this period of weakness in these new cohorts, they've held in there. And that has been a very encouraging thing for us to see. And as we've moved through July and started moving to August and we're starting to see more networks respond to the changes in IDFA and starting to be able to demonstrate improving returns, that gives us encouragement for why we think these are short-term in nature. As we move into the holiday, as we move into the back half of the year, we've already started acquiring new players and starting to spend into some of our franchises. On a category basis, in this period of time, you know, social casino did really well. I think you see that in our numbers that we talked about towards the end of Q2. Poker had an amazing quarter. In that period, we saw those hanging in there very nicely. Hypercasual did well. Some of the areas where you saw weakness was in our merge titles, and that's where we saw audience drops that were probably most pronounced in terms of our portfolio.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Handler of MKM Partners. Your line is open.
spk04: Good afternoon, and thanks for the question. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about the merge games Is there anything you're seeing there that's causing some weakness? How's your rollout schedule for add-on content and what your plans are with those games?
spk06: Yeah, Eric, this is a category that Graham created, honestly. The Merge category really didn't exist until they launched Dragons and then followed it up with Merge Magic, and they saw... the opportunity to really grow those franchises without any competition. They really grew up in a wide-open marketplace. As competitors and others saw that this was a category that was emerging that was very popular, a lot of people dove into that category with new products, copycats, and the spending really drove the CPIs up in the category. And what we've seen with Graham is their growth slowed as a result of that very intense competitive response. And what we've been doing at Graham is really retooling our live services teams to get into position with new bold beats that are planned in Q3 and Q4 that starts to bring the games back to a degree of growth. They've really leveled out over these last few quarters, largely because of the competition that we've seen and the drive up of CPIs in the category. We remain very bullish on the mechanic. We think the Merge mechanic still has a lot of potential for innovation. The Merge Dragons franchise in particular has a very large audience base and is still the number one game in the category. So as we start to transition out of this period of intense competition, we've seen some of that start to fall away and we're doubling down our investment in the Bold Beats and get into position to grow Merge Dragons into the second half of this year and into 22.
spk14: The other thing I would add, sorry, the other thing I would add is if you look at our portfolio, One of the powers that Zynga has and capabilities is there can be times when live services are weaker than you would expect in a situation like Graham. We had the same situation with poker a few years ago, and we brought it back to some of its best results in the last quarter. So while it is something that we're focused on and we need to get after, what I will tell you is the project management teams we have at Zynga are more than capable of dealing with these kind of challenges.
spk04: Great. And then just as a follow-up, your mobile app DAO, a little over 18 cents in the quarter, was the lowest it's been in about two years. Can you talk about some of the dynamics that you're seeing there
spk06: Yeah, that's related to the hypercasual portfolio getting to scale. That vast, large amount has really made it cause a jump. If you pull out Rolick, it's much higher than that.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Doug Krutz of Cohen. Your line is open.
spk10: Thanks. Just looking at your guidance, you're guiding bookings down about 50 million sequentially. Can you give a sense of how that splits between online game bookings and ad bookings, given your comments about advertising being softer as well?
spk14: Yeah, I would. The larger element is in user pay for the factors that we experienced in the second half of our late in Q2. How I would characterize it is, broadly speaking, I would say it's roughly a third of it you could attribute to advertising with the balance to user pay.
spk10: Okay, and then just, this is just a real detail, but in the headlines that came out on Reuters, when your shareholder letter came out, there was a statement saying, company believes they're seeing initial indicators of bookings trends are beginning to stabilize. But I couldn't find that phrase anywhere in the actual shareholder letter. So, I mean, is that a statement that you are comfortable with?
spk14: I think, listen, we've got to, like, if you look across our portfolio, we are seeing improvement in some of our games. It's too early to, obviously, it's early indicators, but what I think is more interesting for us is we're seeing improvement in the CPIs and yields that we're achieving in user acquisition. Because, Doug, if you step back from it, when we look at our core cohorts, And these are cohorts that were with us pre-COVID, actually cohorts that joined us during COVID. Those cohorts are engaging and monetizing strongly. So the MO against those cohorts is to continue to drive engagement, drive both beats, and obviously monetization. The next phase is, okay, how do we bring new cohorts in? Now, we've calibrated our user acquisition spend this quarter and last quarter and into this quarter, given what we saw in terms of yields. As we see yields ease up, that means we'll be able to invest more against channels that are now performing, and that should enable us to drive, you know, obviously a stronger booking performance, which is essentially implied as we get into Q4. We are assuming some moderate improvement in our live service bookings into Q4.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Matthew Cost of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk12: Thanks for taking the question. So I guess between reopening and then the changes to the marketing ecosystem, can you break out sort of the magnitude of the impact of each of those elements in the decline in the 3Q Guide versus 2Q? And then just looking out from here, obviously reopening is a passing thing. The changes to the marketing ecosystem are permanent, but for both of them, What steps are you taking to work through those issues, particularly on the marketing side, and how confident are you in their ability to work and get your marketing efficacy back to where it's been historically?
spk06: I think if you look at the two factors that we're dealing with in terms of the reopening with audience choppiness and then IDFA, You know, when we talked about IDFA before, we had said that it was going to be a short-term headwind that we would work through because of our advantages in scale in advertising and product management. We remain committed to that. What we're already seeing in improvement in early UA trends, really what had to happen was new tools, new ad products, the networks needed to retool. We needed to look at real data in terms of the supply and demand factors. And that's what, when iOS hit 80% in June... that June period and July is really working through that. And we've seen that improvement in late July and going into August where we feel very confident that IDFA is something that we're working our way through and has had an impact but is, again, a short-term nature type thing that we communicated in the long term. We don't see it as a negative. It's something that we just have to adjust for, and we've started to do that by, again, Looking at different networks, we've started to buy on networks that we weren't buying on before because they've done a good job improving their products. As an example, Unity is a network that has done a good job adjusting to IDFA. In addition to that, we've used some other techniques in terms of how do we value a player, what types of calculations we're doing in terms of looking at the spread between install and LTV. So it's a variety of different techniques that you experiment against. You see the results, you see if they're predictive, and then we start deploying those. So I'm very confident and feel very good that the IDFA issue is well in hand and operating within expectations. The softness in the cohorts that we acquired in 21, that choppiness has had more of an impact on the run rates. That has been where we've seen a little bit more of an adjustment that we've had to make with regards to how they were operating versus earlier cohorts in COVID. They seem to have been less committed to the games. They have been in the games for a less period of time. And as things reopened and they were able to go back outside or go do other things, we saw that tradeoff in time spent in games towards other things start to increase. So that's where we saw the impact mainly. And that, again, was something that started to happen in late May and carried forward Now, usually what you would do is you would spend money to acquire new users with good ROIs, and that would offset it. Unfortunately, with IDFA happening at the same time as that softening, that's where we hit this turbulence inside of our run rates against live services that's lasted from late May through July. And the thing that we're encouraged by is the cohorts outside of those late additions have been strong and they've been very engaged and they've been very lucrative and they've been very committed. And in addition to that, with IDFA starting to improve in terms of the UA trends improving, that's why we're confident that these are short-term factors and that we're moving through them. And as we look forward into our more long-term growth strategy in 22 and beyond, our business fundamentals are strong, our investments are sound, We've adjusted for market turbulence related to COVID, and we feel like we're working our way through that, and that was part of our adjustment today for the second half trend line inside of life services.
spk11: Great. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from David Konofsky of J.P. Morgan. Your question, please.
spk03: Thank you. Frank, maybe just ask a longer-term question on the impact of IDFA. Historically, your bookings have been more skewed towards iOS versus Android. Given the relative difference in the platforms around privacy and some of the challenges you're seeing, do you see a need or opportunity at all to optimize your games or new game launches maybe more towards Android?
spk06: It's an interesting question as we look at platform mix. I can tell you that we have been investing in Android as we've seen the dynamics unfold inside of iOS. Android has always been a parity platform for us. It is a strategic platform for us. We don't do anything necessarily special for Apple versus Android. So from that standpoint, I think we'll continue with that strategy. But for sure, we have been spending more money on Android platforms to acquire users there in the short term. And in particular, we've seen explosive growth of Rollic. Hypercasual on the Android platforms is very popular, and you see a mix more towards that. I think longer term, as we see the innovation in ad products start to offset the changes in the ecosystem, I think it'll start to come back around. We're leaving out as we get further into the year and into the start of 22. But right now, I think you're seeing a lot of people put money in Android right now, which obviously is driving prices up. But in general, that part of the ecosystem is functioning very much normally.
spk14: The other thing I would add, as you think to your point about thinking beyond 21 and into 22, once we get going, with the enhancements and the bringing together of ChartBoost and Zynga, we do see opportunities to obviously use that lever to improve our leverage and yield capabilities within user acquisition across all platforms. So when you look at the size of our audience and you look at the scale you know, the scale we have in our ad tech platform, I think that's going to be an important driver, too, as we think about, you know, user acquisition efficiency going forward.
spk03: Okay. And if I could ask one on Starlark, you know, your portfolio has largely stayed away from sports games to this point. So, you know, I guess why is now a good time for sports? And is this a genre where you want to expand your presence more either through new games or M&A? Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, when we looked at the opportunity to work with Starlark and we played Golf Rivals, it really is a highly social, casual PVP experience. And the fact that it's in the golf genre is important, but at the same time, it really appeals broadly. And it's a very fun, fantasy-based experience. So we're not really looking to enter the sports simulation category anymore. what we're entering in is the social PVP casual game category. And that is why we really were attracted to this design and also to this development team. And so for long term, if we look at their pipeline, I think what you can expect from us is highly engaging PVP experiences that are social in nature and with features and monetization that's optimized for that kind of growth and that type of player behavior. but it's not necessarily a hardcore sports simulations. If you play golf rival, it's definitely not a realistic simulation of golf. And so that's why we think of it more in that casual category, as opposed to we're starting to put down more investment in a, in a sport genre.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mario Lou of Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk00: Great. First question is on the games. So the, Now that IDSA is rolled out, does this open the door to implement advertising in both TOI and Toon Blast? I believe that was one of the low-hanging fruits once you acquired them, so any update there would be helpful.
spk14: Yeah, we're continuing to evaluate and plan to bring advertising to the games. It's more a function of timing and making sure that we deliver the kind of ad experiences that are player-positive for the Peak games. We have done testing with Peak and demonstrated that actually the advertising, when you tune it the right way, as we can, is actually a retentive mechanism. When you deliver ads to players where they actually receive value in return, those are very positive experiences. it is still in our roadmap to deliver. Obviously it's not something that's coming by the end of 2021, but it is something we're looking at into 22 and beyond.
spk00: Great. Thanks. And just a clarification on the Star Wars title. Um, so you guys said it's entering, well, we'll enter the test markets, uh, in 4Q. Um, does that mean there's still a possibility that the game launches, uh, in 2021 or, um, in that 2022 title as well. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, Hunters will go into test in Q4. It's more likely to release in the early part of 2022, so that's why we don't have Hunters in our forward look from a financial standpoint. The game is doing really well, but we'd like to get it into test and see what we hear and learn. We're adding a lot of new features because of the early response has been so positive on iOS, Android, and Switch. Got it. Thank you.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Martin Yang of Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
spk07: Hi, this is Angie Song speaking on behalf of Martin Yang. So for your recently launched Puzzle Combat, what is the initial audience reception of the game and what are some of the key learnings that you can apply to for future games or versions of the game? And what do you expect a game to achieve in around a year's time, given tougher-than-normal year-over-year comps?
spk06: Yeah, Angie, thanks for the question. Puzzle combat is off to a good start from the standpoint of player reception. The quality scores are very high. The cohorts that are in the game are highly engaged and enjoying it. Because of the reaction that we've seen in IDFA in terms of some of the tools, the scaling of the game is going a little bit slower right now. And so we're taking the time to really maintain an approach where we're looking at the telemetry from what the players are telling us, adding new features, tuning things. So it's scaling a little bit slower than we want because of the IDFA impact over the summer. But as we get into more normalized conditions, I expect that we'll be able to scale it more aggressively as we get into the fall. We're very excited about the game, the change of content from, you know, fantasy to more combat has been well received. We've added some new subsystems around collecting equipment. And we're adding new features like robots, mechs, that I think that is going to be very well received. So we're very excited about the title. We remain committed to making the title a hit product, and it will be a big contributor for us in 2022.
spk07: Great. Thank you.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Fitzgerald of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk02: Thanks, guys. Frank, maybe as a follow-up to some of your previous comments, when you think about cross-platform titles like Hunters, can you give us a sense of the difference in the development costs? Are they dramatically different? Do they hit at different cadences? Or maybe is the green light process or the soft light launch process different for those cross-platform titles? And then I have one follow-up on IDFA. Thanks.
spk06: In terms of development, early on the costs aren't incrementally that high. The issue is when you get to soft launch, you have to test the games differently because you have very different test marketing conditions. You can't really – it's hard to test launch a Switch game, for example, versus an Android or an iOS where you can really break it down by region or a specific country. So really where the differences start to get pronounced is in the test marketing and and also in the live services updates. You can go very, very fast with a mobile game. There's a lot more requirements to work with the first party and get it tested on the console side. It takes a little bit longer. Those are some of the things that we're mastering right now. You do not see a big increase in costs related to the engines because we're using common engines like Unreal or Unity. The art translates pretty nicely. There are a few extra things that we'll do with regards to resolution or a specific platform capability because the processors are slightly faster or you're on a big screen TV. But in general, those costs are not excessive. The depth of the games can be a little bit different. In mobile, you probably don't need the same degree of depth in some of the shooter mechanics, for example, but that's something that we're very focused on making sure that the experiences are high-quality games both on mobile and console, so that they're very playable together. We never want to release a game that isn't cross-play capable, like where there's a mobile version that can't talk to the Switch version. From the very beginning, we want these games to be fully interoperable, simultaneously playable, and at a quality level where one doesn't look like an afterthought. And so we're very excited by the reaction that we're seeing right now on Hunters from not only our first-party teams, but also from the consumer testing that we're doing. And it's going to be really interesting to see what the testing material tells us in Q4, but we're very excited to get those games out.
spk02: Awesome. And then the quick follow-up on IDFA was just, are you seeing any ROI differences by genre in any material way based on IDFA? Maybe no, but just curious.
spk06: Not material. You do see some subtleties in some categories like social casino. Some more broad-based casual stuff has held in there on the ROIs. The problem is that there's a lot of muddiness in the data, for example. So if you include organic attribution, it looks a lot better than if you pull it out, a more strict attribution. way to measure your returns is to take the organics out. And if you do that, the CPIs bounce around a little bit. That might be a little overly technical, but depending on how you count it, that's where the category differences can become very pronounced. But during IDFA, hypercasual, social casino have hung in there nicely. And again, some of the franchises that have more narrow arbitrages where you need more detail on who you're buying, those ones have suffered more, and that's where you've seen some of the weakness for us on games like Merge Dragons, for example.
spk11: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Hickey of The Benchmark. Please go ahead.
spk13: Hey, Frank and Jer. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. Just to clarify on the Merge tiles, do you sort of expect a sustained downturn here in And can you remind us sort of the size of those games and revenue? And have a quick follow-up.
spk06: Yeah, I think we've kind of hit bottom on the merge games in terms of their performance over these last couple of quarters. We believe that we're going to be in a position that they'll start to collectively grow as we head towards the holidays and and start to release some of the bold beats that we've been working on in the first half here. So as you know, Graham was a very successful acquisition for us and had explosive growth. They've leveled off a bit here, and now what we're doing is retooling and doubling down so that we can start growing them again, much like what we've done with other live service franchises, like whether it's been Words with Friends or Zynga Poker over the years.
spk14: Mike, in terms of the overall size, obviously Merge Dragons is still a very strong and large franchise north of 200. Merge Magic is a smaller franchise, and it is south of 100 million.
spk13: Thank you. I guess on the hyper-casual side, Frank, I think I heard you talk about maybe transitioning some of those games into live services. Can you talk more about the opportunity there? I'm guessing you would also look to do M&A in that category. But that sounds interesting. And then within HyperCasual, what's the UA opportunity there for some of the other live services? Thank you.
spk06: Yeah, with what we're experimenting at Rollick is, you know, expanding the development community so that we can bring more games into the Rollick network because it is a combination of, small external teams and internal teams. And over the last few quarters, we've been acquiring small teams that have built some of the games that have been hits. So we've been adding to our internal capability by bringing in some of these IPs and teams. Recently, we launched in Hair Challenge the first time we put a bold beat inside of a hyper-casual game. And we saw a really nice pickup and engagement. And so you're going to see from us over these next couple of quarters where we're going to start adding bold beats, to some of the hypercasual games to elongate the engagement curves, which will increase the amount of monetization that we see. And that should attract more expansive or bigger scope games into that category, which is exciting to us. And we think that that will attract more developers into the Rolic network because of how successful they are in putting out hits. We put out a really great string of products that have driven audiences and the advertising dollars that were generated there have been a major contributor. In Q2, we were up 111% in advertising, and a lot of that had to do with Rolick.
spk14: Mike, the other thing I would add is we spent a lot of time with Borak, and one of the reasons we decided to accelerate the acquisition of the 20% was there was a lot of energy on both sides to really focus in on some of these longer-term opportunities. And as you can imagine, sometimes earnouts can become too short-term in nature for some of the shareholders. But as we think about Rollick, we're thinking about some of their games have the characteristics of being franchises where you can have a continued iteration of different smaller events or different smaller games coming out under the same banner, similar like Awards for Friends or CSR2, or any of our other franchises. The other interesting point, as you think about user acquisition and you think about cross-promoting into some of our other franchises, we're also looking at some of our larger franchises and saying, well, is there an opportunity to create smaller hyper-casual versions of those games that could actually sort of coalesce within a hyper-casual universe and sort of be a cross-filter? They could be games onto themselves. or they could actually be more promotion vehicles that bring players into other franchises.
spk11: Thank you. Our last question comes from Richard Greenfield of LightShed Partners. Your line is open.
spk09: Hi. A couple of questions. I don't want to beat this IDFA thing to death, but just, you know, Frank, you sort of seem to be alluding to things certainly getting better as sort of you exited July into August. If you could just sort of like on a, I don't know if it's a 1 to 10 scale, but like if in some way of gauging we were to think about where things were before the latest changes to where we are now, are we, you know, 30% of the way back, 60% of the way back? Like how much better or worse are we than before this all started. And then second, you know, it seems like, you know, your acquisition of ChartBoost seems to be transformative in terms of giving you first-party data and a lot more knowledge so that, you know, things like this won't impact you since they change again. Maybe if you could just comment on how quickly you can ramp that acquisition to sort of take advantage or leverage that data to improve UA as you look out, whether it may not be, I guess, the third quarter event, but as you look certainly into 22, How do you think it changes the UA acquisition side of the equation?
spk06: Yeah, thanks for the question, Rich. You know, giving it a rating scale is a little tough, but what I can tell you is we weren't spending in June and July at a high expense, and now we're starting to put money back to work. So, you know, I would say we've definitely started on the road to recovery, if you will. But, you know, Android, we've been spending all the whole way through. On iOS, we took a pause. And now we've started to see the yields improving on networks like Unity, for example, where we're starting to put the money to work. And we think that that trend will continue. And as we get into the holiday and early part of 2022, that, you know, short-term headwind that IDFA was will be in the rearview mirror and will be moving forward. So good progress and positive progress on that front. As it relates to ChartBoost, you know, they just got in the building, you know, as it were. on Tuesday, and they really can't get to work fast enough because that vertical integration to ad tech on the DSP side and starting to have more intel about what's happening in the ad markets is going to be vital for us in the second half and beyond as we start to even out-accelerate the normalized trends of getting back into UA here. So we're very excited about the impact that ChartBoost is going to have long-term on the company. They're going to start to ramp up here August through December, but the synergies case, the revenue case, the third-party ad business, the more information and intelligence that we'll gather through the systems, we'll make better decisions. I'm very excited about having that capability inside Zynga.
spk14: Yeah, Rich, I would just add to that. We're still tracking as it relates to the synergies we expect in 2022, though we communicated back in the last earnings call. So we still believe that Charpu's will be a meaningful deliverer of synergies in 2022 and beyond. So there's been no change in our expectations there. We're very happy to have them in the building now, but now it's let them get their legs under the table.
spk09: Thanks so much for filling us in. To us, it just seems like such an important part of the story to help you. I'm sure Apple may change things in the future, and so the bigger they get, the faster they get, the less this becomes an issue going forward.
spk11: Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Rebecca Lyle for closing remarks.
spk01: Thank you, Lateef. We want to thank everyone again for joining our earnings call today. We look forward to connecting with you over the coming weeks and hope everyone's continuing to stay safe and healthy during these times.
spk11: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating.
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