8/27/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one a second time. Thank you. Parmeet Ahuja, you may begin the conference.

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Parmeet Ahuja
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, and welcome everyone to Agilent's conference call for the third quarter of fiscal year 2025. With me are Porek McDonald, Agilent President and CEO, and Rodney Gonzalez, Agilent Vice President and Interim CFO. Joining the Q&A will be Simon May, President of the Life Sciences and Diagnostics Markets Group, Angelica Ryman, President of the Agilent Cross Lab Group, and Mike Zhang, President of the Applied Markets Group. This presentation is being webcast live. The press release for our third quarter financial results, investor presentation, and information to supplement today's discussion. along with a recording of this webcast, are available on our website at investor.agilent.com. Today's comments will refer to non-GAAP financial measures. You will find the most directly comparable GAAP financial metrics and reconciliations on our website. Unless otherwise noted, all references to increases or decreases in financial metrics are year-over-year, and references to revenue growth are on a core basis. Core revenue growth is adjusted for the impact of currency exchange rates and any acquisitions and divestitures completed within the past 12 months. Guidance is based on forecasted exchange rates. As a reminder, beginning in the first quarter of fiscal 2025, we implemented certain changes to our reporting structure related to the reorganization of our three business segments. We have recast our historical segment information to reflect these changes and have provided the financial details on our website. These changes have no impact on our company's consolidated financial statements. During this call, we will also make forward-looking statements about the financial performance of the company. These statements are subject to risk and uncertainty and are only valid as of today. The company assumes no obligation to update them. Please look at the company's recent SEC filings for a more complete picture of our risk and other factors. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Porek.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. Agilent delivered outstanding results of $1.74 billion in revenue in the third quarter, exceeding our guidance while continuing to transform our enterprise operating model in a highly dynamic environment. We also delivered $1.37 earnings per share in the quarter. Thank you to the Agilent team who has remained laser focused on our customers and committed to our mission of advancing the quality of life. Our fiscal 2025 third quarter marks our fifth consecutive quarter of sequential core revenue acceleration, a testament to how we've evolved our enterprise strategy to be market first and then realigned our businesses to our markets. For this fiscal year, we've gone from 1.2% in Q1 to 5.3% in Q2 and now 6.1% in Q3. Just as important, our two-year growth stack also is improving, showing that this is a durable momentum, not just a short-term bounce. The two-year stack is a summation of our growth over two consecutive years, providing a clear view of sustained performance by smoothing out short-term quarterly fluctuations. Given this strength, we are raising our fiscal 2025 full-year revenue guidance to the range of $6.91 to $6.93 billion, representing a core growth of 4.5% at the midpoint. This is a $150 million increase from our prior range at the midpoint and 1.5 percentage points of additional core growth, a clear step up in our growth outlook heading into Q4. This upgrade reflects our confidence in delivering another step up of revenue into Q4, even as we absorb the impact of tariffs this year. Our momentum is broad-based and led by our two largest end markets, pharma and chemicals and advanced materials. In Q3, both grew 9% and 10% respectively. In pharma, small molecule grew double digits, fueled by demand in downstream QAQC and strong adoption of our Infinity Tree LC platform. GLP-1s also continue to drive demand, both for our leading analytical lab solutions and the unique capabilities we bring with BioVectra. In chemical and advanced materials, demand rebounded across all major geographies. This was supported by new investments in the semiconductor and chemical sector, with robust uptake in our GC and GC-MS platforms. We also saw healthy contributions from our food and diagnostics and clinical end markets. And the academia and government end market returned to modest growth despite continued funding pressures in the US. Environmental forensics was the only market to decline as changes in the US EPA led to some cautiousness on new capital spending. Despite this temporary headwind, our market leading PFAS business grew low double digits globally during the quarter. Against the tough compare of nearly 50% growth last year. Demand outside the Americas continue to be excellent, with broad-based growth in the low 30s. PFAS remains an excellent opportunity with strong, long-term demand drivers intact globally. Powering the strength of our execution is our Ignite enterprise operating model. This year, a value-driven approach to pricing delivered results that were twice the impact of last year. At the same time, we streamlined the enterprise by reducing management layers by more than 15%. That didn't just remove cost, it gave us speed. We're making decisions faster and empowering our teams to be agile. We're also taking a consistent enterprise-wide approach to manufacturing and procurement. These efforts already are delivering double-digit savings in key cost categories, and we see even greater opportunities ahead as we scale these practices globally. Our Ignite Tariff Task Force has shown the power of the model in action. In a highly dynamic environment, we reorganized supply chains, shifted production across our global footprint, and implemented targeted pricing actions, giving us confidence we can fully mitigate the impact of tariffs in 2026 at current rates. Ignite continues to be a differentiating goal driver for Agilent. It is proving that by embedding new tools, enhanced capabilities, and smarter ways of operating across the company, we unlock the full scale of our enterprise. That means stronger performance today and resilience and growth for tomorrow. Innovation also continues to be a major driver. Our Infinity Tree LC platform delivered mid-teens growth, with area adopters coming back for a larger follow-on purchase based on a superior performance and productivity gains. And the ProIQ LCMS system is tracking well ahead of our launch forecast, winning key accounts and major pharma customers. The new systems performance benchmarks open new application possibilities across pharma and biopharma, and are resonating strongly with customers, as evidenced by strong funnel growth during the quarter. Also, the newly launched Daco-Ombus family brings our gold standard, fully automated pathology platform to a broader range of lab sizes, capturing a new market segment and strengthening our diagnostics portfolio. Together, these platforms are not just driving near-term revenue, they're continuing to build a foundation for sustained growth into FY26 and beyond. This growth is supported by a strong funnel and accelerating customer adoption across our portfolio, demonstrated by an instrument book to build above one for the last six quarters. Importantly, we expect Q4 to be our largest revenue quarter of the year. with core growth of 5.4% and revenue of nearly $100 million higher than Q3 at the midpoint of our guidance. Our sequential momentum and two-year growth stack remain solid, and combined performance of the second half provides a sound foundation as we look into FY26. The growth we expect in Q4 is underpinned by healthy demand for key platforms, strong funnel conversion, and broad-based strength across our end markets. The latest industry data is evidence of a continued superior commercial execution with market share gains across all major geographies. The combination of strong top line performance and stable operating margin means we have successfully delivered to our bottom line commitments throughout the year. However, we did have higher expectations for margin improvement in the quarter. The increasing revenue growth also comes with additional tariff expenses and higher variable pay. We've invested in our commercial capabilities to support our growth now and into the future. For the fourth quarter, we expect to deliver significant sequential margin improvement, as increasing revenue combined with additional Ignite benefits will result in accelerated profit leverage. Rodney will provide some additional details in his remarks. Now, let me tell you more about why our Q3 was so strong. Starting in our largest end market, Pharma, we grew 9% during the quarter and continue to see steady improvements we referenced for several quarters now. This quarter, we saw positive momentum in funnel conversion as lab managers are increasingly able to access and spend our available capital budgets. There is reduced dependence on executive level approvals that have slowed or stopped spending in the recent past. Our long-time lab-wide enterprise service relationships with large pharma enable us to capitalize on these improving conditions with deeper visibility into customer needs. This ensures we are in the right place at the right time with the right solution when lab managers are looking to replace aging instruments and expand capacity. In our second largest end market, chemical and advanced materials, we deliver 10% growth with broad strength globally. Growth was balanced between two sub-markets, We saw increased capital investment from chemical customers and robust demand in advanced material space and investments in new semiconductor fab facilities globally continue to progress. Our market leadership and key product platforms for these markets position as well to capture this significant instrument replacement opportunity in a market that has seen several years of underinvestment. All our business segments delivered revenue growth that exceeded guidance for the quarter. The life science and diagnostics market grew 7% core Growth was led by excellent low double-digit performance for LC and LC-MS instruments, leveraging our recent Infinity Tree launch and focused LC-MS solutions for key applications across both pharma and the applied markets. LDG also saw another strong quarter for our CDMO business, NASD and BioVectra. NASD grew in the high 20s as we see continued growing demand for siRNA modalities in clinical and commercial programs. BioVector also delivered on expectations while executing a planned facility shutdown to work with a key customer to transition to a higher throughput process. In the applied markets group, growth of 5% was also ahead of expectations. Breaking down the performance, our market-leading platforms GC, GCMS, and Spectroscopy delivered strong growth in Q3 with encouraging momentum in the chemicals and advanced materials, food, and pharma markets. Geographically, all regions deliver growth led by Asia ex-China and EMEA. The geographic growth in AMG was driven by investment from supply chain reshoring, greenfield opportunities, capacity expansion, and replacement from our large install base. Also, our recent launch new products, including the 8850GC, continue to ramp up ahead of expectations as customers are attracted by their exceptional performance superior lab productivity gains, and leading sustainability benefits. The Agilent CrossLab Group delivered 5% growth in Q3, better than we had guided. The CrossLab team drove mid-single-digit consumables, supported by our focus on e-commerce and digital. This was a strong result despite the $50 million tariff-driven pull-forward of sales into Q2 that we mentioned during our last call. The services business grew mid-single-digits, led by strengths in the applied markets in Europe. Agilent Service continues to delight our customers, achieving greater than 90% customer satisfaction and meeting our vision of our customers to feel confident, valued and inspired. Lab activity remains strong, giving us confidence in the fundamental strength of this business. Plus, the increasing pace of instrument sales for replacement of aging fleets and labs where capital budgets have been reduced or withheld Expansion for new capacity and growing demand for automation bodes well for cross lab business into the future. It provides a cycle to generate customer lifetime value through connections of high quality consumables, software services and automation to maximize instrument utilization and overall lab productivity. Turning now to our geographic results, we saw broad base growth with all regions growing at least mid single digits during the quarter. Our business in Asia ex-China continues to capitalize on opportunities from reshoring of supply chains, growing 10%. And we saw increasing safety regulations across the region drive an excellent mid-20s percent growth for our food markets. Within the region, India continued to lead the way with broad strength across our end markets, resulting in 20% overall growth. We are seeing great success with the Infinity Tree as existing and new customers in pharma QAQC environments look to benefit from its productivity improvements. As the country invests to build domestic semiconductor and EV manufacturing capabilities, we are seeing increased demand for our solutions in these markets. India is a strategic growth market for Agilent. As part of our increasing investments there, I visited India in July to open Agilent's Biopharma Experience Centre in Hyderabad. This centre will bring together advanced lab technologies, expert training and regulatory-ready workflows to help researchers, scientists and companies develop high-quality, life-saving medicines faster and more efficiently. In Europe, growth of 7% was also broad-based, with double-digit growth in pharma and food and high single-digit results in chemical and advanced materials and academia and government. In China, results continued to be stable as expected, growing 4% during Q3, We saw some government funding flow to some of our academia and government customers during the quarter. Based on our interactions with customers and local officials, we continue to expect a more meaningful stimulus impact towards the end of this calendar year, primarily in our applied markets. In the US, the challenging conditions for biopharma spending and in academia and government space persisted. Outside of those areas, we saw nice low double digit growth in small molecule pharma and chemicals and advanced materials. Improved capital spending has driven instrument placements leading to a 5% growth in the Americas in the quarter. We continue to meet the challenge presented by the dynamic environment for global trade. Tariff expenses were higher than our prior expectations as we saw a meaningful increase in shipment volumes and increased inventory to support Q4 growth. We continue to leverage our unique Ignite enterprise operating model to optimize our use of global production networks, manage our diversified supply chain to optimize materials costs, And where required, make pricing adjustments to offset added costs. Leveraging Ignite, we still expect that we will fully mitigate the impact of tariffs either through avoidance or other offsetting opportunities in FY26. And before I hand it over, I want to take a moment to introduce Rodney. Some of you might know him from a period where he led Agilent's investor relations team. For those who do not, Rodney has been an integral part of the finance leadership team at Agilent for many years. He's been a principal accounting officer for the last 10 years. We're also leading our FP&A team. I am delighted at how he's been able to seamlessly step in and lead our finance organization while we conduct a thorough search for our next CFO. Rodney will share further details about our Q3 results and guidance for Q4 and the full year.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

Thanks, Porag, and good afternoon, everyone. In my comments today, I will provide additional details on revenue in the quarter, as well as walk through the income statement and cover other key financial metrics. I'll then cover our updated full year and fourth quarter guidance. Q3 revenue was $1.74 billion above the high end of our guidance. On a core basis, we posted growth of 6.1%, while reported growth was 10.1%. Currency had a favorable impact of 2.1%, which was a point and a half better than what we estimated as part of our guidance. M&A contributed 1.9%, in line with our expectations. Growth margins in Q3 came in at 53.1%, down year on year driven by currency, tariffs, and the impact of downtime to expand capacity of BioVectra, as Porg mentioned earlier. Operating margin was 25.1% in Q3 and has been consistent across the year in increasingly challenging conditions. IGNITE is enabling us to translate top-line growth into bottom-line results while we continue to invest in innovation and growth. As Poreg indicated, margins were below expectations. We've seen roughly equal impact from three areas. First, our higher revenue volume drove up net tariff costs as we shipped additional products and backfill logistics centers to support Q4 growth, even while full tariff mitigation is still on track for FY26. Next, we increased variable pay expectations with higher awards driven by stronger business performance consistent with our pay for performance culture. Finally, we invested incremental commercial spin required to support short and long-term revenue growth, including for critical product launches and improving our geographical coverage. For Q4, we are targeting a sequential operating margin improvement of approximately 230 basis points. We expect most of this improvement to come from leveraging our fixed costs as we drive another sequential increase in volume. We are also getting meaningful contribution from both excellent margin conversion on the significant step up in CDMO revenue in Q4 and delivering another step up in IGNITE benefits with a partial offset due to higher tariff costs. Now moving below the line, we had $6 million of income while our tax rate of 12% was as expected. And we had 285 million diluted shares outstanding in the quarter. Putting it all together, Q3 earnings per share were $1.37. That was at the high end of our expectations and grew 4% from a year ago. Now let me turn to cash flow and the balance sheet. Operating cash was $362 million in the quarter, down versus last year as working capital was up on volume growth and tariff-related inventory build. We also incurred severance costs related to our organizational efficiency efforts. Additionally, we invested $103 million in capital expenditures. We purchased 85 million shares and paid out $71 million in dividends during the quarter. And we ended the quarter with a net leverage ratio of 0.9, so we continue to have a very strong balance sheet. Now let's move on to the outlook for the fourth quarter. We expect Q4 revenue to be in the range of $1.82 to $1.84 billion. This represents an increase of 4.8 to 6% on a core basis and 7.1 to 8.3% on a reported basis. Currency and M&A are expected to be 0.2% and 2.1% tailwinds respectively. also to help you with your models i want to provide you with additional details on expectations for growth in our end marks during the fourth quarter in pharma we're expecting mid to high single digit growth with stable to improving conditions in chemical and advanced materials we're guiding high single digit growth with another quarter of healthy capital investment expected in diagnostics and clinical as well as ensued, we expect mid-single-digit growth. Finally, we expect very low single-digit growth in environmental and forensics and mid-single-digit decline in academia and government as those markets face a difficult compare for U.S. federal spending at the end of the fiscal year. Fourth quarter non-GAAP earnings per share are expected to be between $1.57 and $1.60. representing leveraged earnings growth of 7.5% to 9.6%. We expect a 12% tax rate, $9 million in other income, and 284 million diluted shares outstanding. Turning to the full year, as Porig mentioned earlier, we are raising our revenue outlook. We now expect our full year reported revenue to be in the range of $6.91 to $6.93 billion, This represents an increase of 4.3 to 4.6% on a core basis and 6.2 to 6.5% on a reported basis. Currency is now expected to represent a small headwind for the year while we expect a 2% revenue impact from M&A. Our full year EPS guidance is now $5.56 to $5.59 unchanged at the midpoint versus our prior guidance, and we continue to offset additional tariff costs across the second half. This represents a year-on-year increase of 5.1 to 5.7%. For clarity, let me briefly summarize the updated tariff assumptions that we incorporated in our FY25 guidance. Based on the rates currently in place, we are now anticipating $20 million net costs for the year, up from the minimal impact we guided in May. This increase is due to our better than expected revenue performance across the second half, as well as the 50% tariff increase on imports from Europe announced at the beginning of the month. Strong demand for our LC products that are currently produced in Europe until US-based production begins to scale later this quarter also amplifies the impact of the recent European tariff increase. Finally, for your modeling, we are now projecting an increase of other income and expense to $26 million in income, along with a 12% tax rate for the year and 285 million diluted shares outstanding. Now, I'd like to turn the call back to Poreg for closing comments. Poreg?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Thanks, Rodney. These strong results are a testament to the progress we've made as a company over the past year. We are encouraged by the growth momentum we have created and look forward to building on that success next quarter and into the future. Thank you for your attention. I'll hand over now to Parmeet to kick off our Q&A. Parmeet?

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Parmeet Ahuja
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks, Poreg. Operator, if you could please provide instructions for Q&A now.

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Operator
Conference Operator

At this time, I'd like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question will come from the line of Dan Brennan with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

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Dan Brennan
Analyst, TD Cowan

Great. Thank you. Thanks for the questions. Maybe just the first one on the margins, since obviously top line really strong with the margins. We're light as you kind of spoke to them. Can you just unpack the three variables you kind of highlighted earlier? how much are you spending? How much are you buying more inventory for yourselves? How much was that a factor? And question, the topic number two and three, variable pay and incremental spend. I'm just wondering what the return on that is as we think about the 4Q guide and we think about jumping off into 26. Do some of those investments benefit you in 26? So any help on unpacking those?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

And then I have a follow-up. Yeah, thanks, Dan. So first of all, really committed to our long-term commitment goals around margins. And You know, as tariffs along with related logistics costs were the biggest single impact that we had in 25. And I want to kind of be clear that the headwind will peak in Q4 and the net impact in dollars will trend downwards at the start of 26 and will fully mitigate tariffs in 26. But to your question about the area, so it's higher tariffs driven by higher than expected volumes. incremental commercial investment and higher variable pay in equal measure. Let me talk a little bit about the commercial investments and why we're doing it. So you see the demand and the revenues demand for replacement cycles and our markets are going up. We've, of course, did a lot of work on our commercial org over the years and making it effective. But now is the time to invest for this demand that's going to go into 26 to make sure we can capture it and increase our market share, which we're already doing on it. So I don't know, Rodney, if you want to give any more color on that, but that's how it breaks out.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

No, I think, Corey, those are very good points in terms of why we were below our expectation for the quarter. When we look at it from a year-on-year basis, we were down about 230 basis points. Again, the big thing was tariffs and logistics-related costs associated with those tariffs. And that totaled to be about 200 basis points on a year-on-year basis. It was pretty significant. On top of that, we saw unfavorable – we saw the effects of currency and also the effects of the biovector shutdown. So when you look at all those pieces together, that's why we saw our operating margins decline about 230 basis points year-on-year.

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Dan Brennan
Analyst, TD Cowan

Got it. Okay. I know there'll be a bunch of more questions there, but maybe just a second one just on pharma. Super strong. I think I heard NASD growing kind of north of 20%. So can you just unpack a little bit on, you know, what the outlook calls for to NASD kind of in the back half of the year and as we look ahead? And then I know you gave some color on, you know, large pharma being strong, but sounds like there's still some headwinds with biologics. Maybe just some more color underneath the hood, what you're seeing in pharma and kind of how we think about, you know, the pharma outlook from here.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

No problem, Dan. I'll kick it off and I'll hand over to Simon about NASD. So pharma, you know, it's our largest end market, grew 9% overall. Small molecule grew double digits. And that was really fueled by demand for downstream QAQC, strong adoption and an increasing replacement cycle of the infinity tree, which is now mid-teens in terms of growth. And what we're seeing from the infinity tree is actually early adopters coming back for larger purchases, which is really positive. On the biopharma side, we saw high single digits overall, you know, ex NASD were flat. And that's really around U.S. biopharma spending continues to be muted, which was expected. But what we're seeing really in the market is we're not seeing any concerns translate into negative impact around MFN or tariffs at all, but we have early indications of a standard year end in terms of customer spend in pharma. So customer budgets are really starting to normalize and customers are asking for larger quotes to spend by the year end. And if you think about the three major drivers in pharma, really you're seeing three big areas. Global redistribution of small molecule supply chain, which is a net Tailwind for us, which is really important on downstream. Manufacturing capacity investments, we're seeing that in America's, Asia and Europe, driven by blockbuster success and GOP ones, et cetera, but also macroeconomic conditions. And you do see capital budgets in biopharma remain conservative with venture capital funding. But we do think over time as interest rates come down, that will be released steadily over time. But on the NASD part, I'm going to hand it over to Simon.

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Simon May
President, Life Sciences and Diagnostics Markets Group

Yeah, thanks, Parikh. I'd say for NASD, we were very happy with the quarter overall, and we continue to be very happy with the momentum we see for NASD, both as we move towards the end of the year and into 2026. As I think we mentioned in the script, we saw really robust revenue growth well into the 20s for NASD. It was also another really solid quarter with orders. And as we look at some of the macros that we're seeing out in the field as well, it was a very notable quarter in terms of some approvals and label expansions that we saw out in the marketplace, which really just emphasized the confidence that we have. in this therapeutic modality and also our capabilities to capitalize therein. So as we put it all together, we're happy with the momentum that we have coming into the end of the year. I think we've said previously for the full year, we're looking at high single digit, nudging double digit. I'd say we're increasingly confident now where the double digit full year outlook is concerned. A bit too early to call FY26. but i'd say we're also tentatively confident about the momentum carrying forward there and stay tuned for more over the coming weeks terrific thank you our next question comes from the line of tyco peterson with jeffries please go ahead hey thanks um i want to probe a little more on the pharma comments just kind of reduce dependency on sign-offs that that you noted i'm just curious

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Tyco Peterson
Analyst, Jefferies

How widespread is that? Is that globally? Is it CDMOs, just large pharma? And how much pent-up demand, I guess, do you think there is that could come through with this change in sign-off dependency?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, no, we've really noted that across all geographies, actually, within, you know, particularly within small molecule, but in large pharma, of course, small to medium biopharma is slightly different in that regard. But what we're seeing is Tyco is really that replacement cycle that we've talked about. We've always talked about it being gradual, moving ahead, and people are releasing budgets for it. I would say the velocity has improved in that. And we're releasing larger quotes for the end of the year. the end of the year. And when you have approvals not going to executive or even higher levels in the company that's given into the hands of lab managers or site managers, that makes a big difference in momentum.

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Tyco Peterson
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. And then a follow-up on PFAS. Was that a little bit softer in the US? I know you talked about it being up 10% overall, but it seems to imply that US was maybe down or pretty soft in the quarter. I'm just curious if there's something going on there.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

Did you get that?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Sorry, maybe you can't hear me now, but I'll repeat that. So low double-digit growth overall in Q3, which is a solid result, 50% year-to-date growth. It remains a really strong opportunity. In Americas, we were down 20%, and that was really around the US EPA changes that drove impact. No policy change that impacts the volume of testing, but uncertainty around capex spend and increasing clarity around the EPA changes will mean there's a little bit of a question over Q4 and Q1. But overall, I would say PFAS is going extremely well around the globe.

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Tyco Peterson
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. Maybe just one last quick one. The commercial investments that you flagged, when did you decide to move forward with those and why weren't they baked into the guide?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, so look at it, you know, you deal with what's in front of you and where you see your momentum in terms of orders. And we had a, you know, we spent many years transforming our commercial organization into one centralized central area globally. We have a number of product launches that are coming out and we are way ahead of our ramp to volumes boat on the infinity tree. and for example on the pro iq lcms so so it was really a dynamic situation and having come from commercial and experience over many many years you need to get investment in early when the when the markets start to come back and you have opportunities because it's a very competitive place we want to gain share not only in our accounts but in competitor accounts and we want to continue to raise our ability to have technical expertise in the field to really help with that okay next

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Rachel Wadenstahl with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Rachel Wadenstahl
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Perfect. Good afternoon. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I just wanted to push on 2026 expectations here. If we look at your fourth quarter guide, the midpoint really implies around like a five and a half percent organic growth rate. at the midpoint, and it looks like consensus is right around that number for next year as well. So can you just walk us through the moving pieces on 2026? Is taking that fourth quarter number and rolling it into next year a reasonable starting point, or are there other things that we should be thinking of?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, I'll start off and I'll hand it over to Rodney. I think, you know, of course, it's too early to give out any detail on the guide for 26, but on the revenue side, let me talk about revenue and margins. In revenue, the second half of 25 was meaningfully stronger than the first quarter. And that provides a really positive indication of momentum into 26. And while, of course, we need to remain mindful of the broader economic environment and more challenging comps, we do see this as a solid foundation for growth. And on the margin side, we've addressed many of the challenges in 25 and tariffs being the largest. And we expect tariffs to be fully mitigated within the year, and that should provide a tailwind. And, of course, we have Ignite that's going to drive us forward on it. But, Rodney, I don't know if you want to give more color around 26.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

Yeah, Poreg, I think, you know, you mentioned some of the tailwinds that we saw, particularly on the margin side. Both as we continue to mitigate tariffs, we will see improvement from a margin perspective as we go into 26. I think the other thing is, as you mentioned, we'll continue to see savings associated with Ignite. One of the things we still need to be factoring in is what kind of cost increases we may be seeing from our suppliers. So that would be a bit of a tailwind that we're still looking at.

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Rachel Wadenstahl
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Great. And then just on my follow-up here, I wanted to ask around budget-slash-assumptions. Parag, you mentioned a little bit how pharma companies are putting in some larger orders before year-end and that they have some more visibility on budgets overall. So are you embedding any budget plus exceptions into that fourth quarter guide or would that be upside? Thank you.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, so I think what we're seeing is quotes actually at this stage, not orders for the end of the year. And the early indications that it's more of a standard year end in terms of of budget flush and i think uh it's been quite a few years before since we've seen that um and everybody knows the history in our markets but customers are starting to budget starting to normalize and seeing larger value quotes is is uh what we see in it so we're we're guiding with what we see at the moment our next question will come from the line of michael riskin with bank of america please go ahead

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Puneet Sutta
Analyst, Leerink Partners

Great.

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Michael Riskin
Analyst, Bank of America

Thanks for taking the question. I want to touch on chemicals and advanced materials. Really strong quarter there and kind of on it being pretty broad-based. We've had some more mixed data points there, so that was a little bit of a surprise. Could you just talk a little bit more about, you know, where you saw it geographically, sort of what gives you confidence that there was no pull forward and that's a little bit more sustainable going forward?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, thanks for the question. I think, you know, it's been fantastic in terms of growth, 10% growth in Q3, broad-based, 10% in chemicals and advanced materials. And, you know, our strong position and our leadership in our platforms is really important and our really strong connection with customers. But really driven by three areas, I would say, in Q3. I think capacity growth from supply chain regionalization is very true for that market. Greenfield Investments, by the way, in both broad chemicals and advanced materials, and actually replacement momentum we've often talked about this a lot that is not only LC replacement cycles that are important but we're now starting to see replacement investments as we go forward on it and it's driven I would say by you know the chemical sector continuing to lead by driving demand and downstream industries like semiconductor and of course energy growth in AFO, which is going to continue, and the Americas that's going to continue. So I think overall, I think we're really pleased with results. We see that continuing, and we see that continuing particularly in both of those areas as we go forward.

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Michael Riskin
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. And then following up on Rachel's question just now and kind of taking it back to the margin topic, I think you quantified tariffs for third quarter Could you remind us what the tariff hit is on the margin line for all of fiscal year 25? And then when you talk about fully mitigating for next year, it's just making sure the simple math is we're just kind of assuming that at least that much is how much comes back next year on the gross margin line. Is that the right way to think about when you talk about being able to offset for next year?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, so I think you're thinking about it the right way. You know, I think we focus in three areas on the tariff side with mitigation, leveraging existing manufacturing footprint around the globe, working with suppliers to relocate manufacturing locations, minimize tariffs, and of course, targeted pricing changes. And we see the most critical activities implemented by Q4 and ramping through 26. But the key element of our mitigation, that it will be implemented by the end of fiscal 25 and will ramp through 26. So I think, Rodney, I don't know if you want to add any color to that, but that's how we see it.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

Yeah, I think the only other point, Porg, is that, yeah, we recognized about $35 million. We were originally looking at about $25 million in tariffs, tariff costs in the third quarter. That's up about $10 million. And we expect the same level in the fourth quarter. So 70 million for the second half. And again, we have a lot of our actions. Most of our plan mitigation actions will be implemented by the end of this quarter. And so we should start seeing the impact to our gross margins as we start moving into Q1 and through 26. Okay.

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Michael Riskin
Analyst, Bank of America

So 70 million for the year for 25. All right. Thanks. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Donnelly with Citi. Please go ahead.

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Patrick Donnelly
Analyst, Citi

Thank you for the questions. Maybe to stay on that same topic there that Mike was on, on the margin side. I guess given that tariff piece, given Ignite, you know, obviously some temporary costs in this quarter impacting the margin. You know, Porig, I know when we've talked in the past, you've always kind of said, hey, there's a reason we put the plus sign on the margin algorithm for the out years. I guess, is next year setting up that it has that potential to be an outsized margin year, given kind of the headwinds this year that will not recur next year? Just try to frame that. If you are able to grow, call it over 5%, it feels like it has that potential, but just want to see if that makes sense and see if you can throw some numbers around it.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, look, there's three really key tailwinds. I think Ignite continues to drive gains. We've delivered a lot of gains over it. tariff mitigations will be higher and will ramp through the year. And the volume should be really a helper on it. So overall, I think we're in good shape. Of course, it's too early to guide on it and to say what it's going to be. But Ignite is there for a reason. We put out 100 basis points plus for a reason, and we still feel very, very good about that as we go forward. I will say also, you know, if you look at Q4 margins, Patrick, it's something to be really clear about is that are expected to really increase versus Q3. We're expecting a 200 basis point sequential margin improvement from Q3 to Q4 when Q2 to Q3 was flat. And that's going to be driven by leverage on sequential uptick in revenue in Q4, which we have a good line of sight of. And I think while the increase, while revenue increased sequentially, you know, the full quarter tariffs along with currencies were headwinds that offset against it and the incremental Ignite savings. I think for next year, we're in good shape.

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Patrick Donnelly
Analyst, Citi

Okay, that's helpful. And then I guess maybe just in the quarter, what you saw on kind of the pricing side, it's definitely a question we get. I think people are just seeing the margins and wondering if pricing is a part of that. So if you could just talk about what you saw in pricing versus volume in the quarter and expectations going forward, that would be helpful. Thanks, Port.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, Rodney, you want to take this one?

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

Yeah, I'll take this one. Yeah, we're actually starting to see some more movement in our pricing. And for the quarter, we saw about 100 bps improvement in pricing.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Okay, thanks. Our next question comes from the line of Jack Meehan with Nefron Research. Please go ahead.

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Jack Meehan
Analyst, Nefron Research

Thank you. Good afternoon. I wanted to ask about how you think the trade tariff dynamics are influencing your customer buying behavior. Last quarter, you talked about the 15 million consumable pull forward, 15 million instrument push out. Did that play out as expected? And then just anything incremental that you saw in terms of stocking, destocking? Thank you.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, I mean, Jack, thanks for the question. On that side, nothing. You know, we did talk about that pull forward in consumables last quarter, which worked itself out very, very quickly. And maybe I'll ask Angelique to add more colour on this in a second. But we have seen no pull forwards. We've seen nothing in terms of stocking. We've monitored that quite closely. So nothing on that side. And I would say lab activity remains very, very strong. But Angelique, on the consumables side, maybe you can give some colour.

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Angelica Ryman
President, Agilent Cross Lab Group

Yeah, thanks, Poreg, and thanks, Jack, for the question. You know, as Poreg's already said, we had the pull-through in Q2, but we had mid-single-digit growth in Q3, which is no indication of any further pull-forwards. The lab activity we're seeing is continuing to support the demand here, no doubt about it. We had good growth across all of our end markets and across our regions. So we're continuing to see strong lab activity, driving strong recurring revenue demands. Great. And we expect that to continue.

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Jack Meehan
Analyst, Nefron Research

Okay. And then an unrelated question. Was curious about the China diagnostics market. Saw the reference to DACO, ex-China. Getting a lot of questions around VBP and DRG, just for the universe, broadly speaking. Do you mind just reminding us what your exposure is to China diagnostics and What, if any, you're seeing in regard to those topics?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, so I mean, our exposure is very low in China in terms of diagnostics. It's very stable business as we go forward on it. But Simon, you want to give some color on the China story with BBB? We're not really being impacted by it.

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Simon May
President, Life Sciences and Diagnostics Markets Group

I think the long story short is that we've seen minimal impact so far. As we look at our diagnostic tools in China, we do see some local vendors there. but where Agilent's product offering is concerned, we're really serving more advanced staining applications, and I think we've got a pretty esoteric product offering and menu there. So there's pressure, but I don't think we've really seen that trickle through in a meaningful way.

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Parmeet Ahuja
Vice President, Investor Relations

All right. Thank you, guys.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

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Vijay Kumar
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hi, Poreg. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a nice top-line print here. Maybe on the top-line question here. I think last quarter, in second quarter, there was some instrument impact, if memory serves me correct. Did CQ benefit from timing element here on instrument size? The sort of another related to that top-line question is you mentioned tariff rates. When you say pricing benefit, are you including surchargers as part of pricing? Could that explain part of what we're seeing here in margins? How much of this core beef was in a tariff for surcharger-related in the instrument catch-up from prior quarter?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, no, thanks, Vijay. Just a few points on the instrument side. Firstly, I think we've seen a steady improvement in replacements. Total instruments grew high single digits. and LCMS grew low double digits. And we're very, very pleased with LC and LCMS growth and the Infinity Tree, of course, where we're seeing on the replacement cycle of aging fleets and, of course, new sites. In terms of pricing and surcharges, that hasn't been realized yet. That takes a while to go through the system. We have a tariff task force that is second to none that's run through the Ignite program here where we look at data analytics. So we do it in a very structured way, but that takes time to go through. So we'll see those pricing in Q4 and 26 and beyond.

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Vijay Kumar
Analyst, Evercore ISI

That's helpful. And off of the topic on fiscal 26 commentary, I think one of you appeared, they sort of hinted at end market growth, perhaps being in the low single digit range, maybe with some share gains, perhaps pointing to like four plus. How, like, is that a reasonable framework on how we should think about Agilent? Or are there anything that's unique, whether it's your chemical exposure or China, anything that's, you know, that makes Agilent different versus, you know, how some of your peers have commented about fiscal 26?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, look, I think, you know, we feel very positive about 26 across all of our markets. You see the momentum this time through Applied and the pharma side. driven by the top line. We think we're going to see that continue over time. I think as you look at different areas, what makes us different, I think China is going to be a large stimulus order coming towards the end of the year. We've been highly successful in that in the past. We've kept very focused with our teams there. So we expect China to kind of continually improve through 2026. And, of course, that area is really important. And I think, as well, CDMO makes us very different. You know, 20% growth in NASD. BioVectra, we primed the pumps for 26. That's going to be a high-growing. Some of the indications are really, really great on it. So I think that's really important. And, you know, you see our results in our chemical and applied materials. You know, these are secular drivers where we have significantly high market share. And that's going to continue because of reshoring or FABs about where they're being built. Of course, battery investment and EVs technology. And that makes us, I would say, very differentiated as well. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Schengel with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.

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Doug Schengel

Hey, good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for taking my questions. I want to start on guidance philosophy. So on one hand, I know you guys know that it's particularly important to set financial targets at levels that are especially de-risked, given how difficult the last few years have been across the tool space. On the other hand, you clearly had a lot of strength in the quarter and you seemingly have really strong momentum heading into year end. How do you balance momentum and strength with the goal of maybe skewing the error bars around your guidance targets to the upside? maybe asked a different way, how would you describe your visibility on hitting these targets heading into year end?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

So heading into year end, we have very good visibility. I think particularly on the order book and what we put out on our guidebook on revenue and margins, I think 26, we don't give out guidance, no doggone it, but we do see that this positive momentum is is not going to just stop at the end of 25. We're going to continue to see it. Now, what that relates to guide, and of course, a lot can happen between now and the end of our fiscal year in the macro environment, tariffs, et cetera. So we will be giving guidance in the next half. But it is something we want to be, as usual in Agilent, we want to be very clear about what we're putting out at the end of the year. And it's clear and it's achievable and going forward on it. So we'll have more next quarter on that one.

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Doug Schengel

Thank you very much for that. The next topic I wanted to talk about is capital deployment. I think your net leverage ratio was 0.9 times just under one. How are you thinking about capital deployment? It seems like you're feeling better about what you can control and maybe even your ability to navigate some of the things that are outside of your control from a policy standpoint. If that's right, how does that impact your thoughts on M&A and or accelerating buybacks beyond dilution mitigation? And kind of related to that, how would you describe organizational readiness for something bigger, given how many changes have occurred in leadership over the past year? Thank you.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, so let me talk about the last one first, because I think it's a great point. If you see how Ignite is running inside and about how we're being able to execute inside, I think that has usages beyond Agilent if we do acquisitions in the future, whatever size they will be. So I think our readiness is extremely high on us. Our priorities are not overall changing, but we do expect M&A to be a more meaningful part of our capital deployment going forward. But I want to be clear on three things, Doug, is that it's going to be a disciplined approach that's going to be aligned to our pillars of our strategy, so you won't see any uh far distant areas that are not linked to the strategy we're going to be focusing on growth opportunities and of course value to shareholders so um so if you came into our our business development sections we have a small list of very high quality uh topics we're talking about but also internally we're investing back into business we've invested heavily in digital this year in a new crm system new online capabilities and we're investing back in commercials that goes along hand in hand with that so So, I think it's going to be a very disciplined approach, but we're ready as we go into 26. I don't know, Rodney, if... Okay, that's fine. Okay.

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Doug Schengel

Thank you again, Parag.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Thanks, Doug.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line at Puneet Sutta with Learing Partners. Please go ahead.

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Puneet Sutta
Analyst, Leerink Partners

Yeah. Hi, Parag and team. Thanks for taking my questions. First one really on the momentum or a change in momentum. If you saw that between July and August, you are clearly pointing to a strong book to build for the last couple of quarters, but trying to get a sense of if there's an acceleration in the near term and obviously you're seeing a normal budget flush replacement cycle is working. So just want to get a sense of is there something you saw differently in August? And if you could double click on the pharma versus the cam side of the end markets where you're seeing more stronger pickup.

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Thank you. Yeah, so I think, you know, we definitely saw a pickup and it's reflected, of course, in the numbers that we've seen. We've seen a pickup in quoting activity. We saw a significant pickup in replacement cycle, although it's gradual over time. We did see that in July and August that people are replacing their systems, aging fleets. And then, of course, this new greenfield opportunity that you see in boat markets, pharma markets. and in chemical and advanced materials benefiting from that so I would say that overall really good our book to build is greater than one that continues on that side our win rates are extremely good our market share gain which is a little bit offset a few months ago we're gaining across the board in all platforms and geographies So it is positive. Now, of course, people have quotes for the end of the year and we wait those quotes in terms of what we expect to come in. And that's leading to more of a standard year-end CapEx area. And just to finish off, I would say, if you look at it pharma and chemical and applied or chemical advanced materials applied, it's actually the momentum in both of those major markets is pretty similar. You know, you've got a replacement cycle starting on the applied side, probably a bit later than the pharma side. And then you're well into the first innings of a replacement cycle on the LC side. So that's what we're seeing. But driven as well, you know, by adoption of our new platforms, you know, the new LCMS, the ProIQ and the Infinity Tree really making a difference in customer spending patterns.

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Puneet Sutta
Analyst, Leerink Partners

Got it. And then just follow up on China. Can you just elaborate a bit on what you're seeing in their quarter in China and third quarter? And, you know, you talked about stimulus coming through. Maybe just give us a sense of the, you know, is that driven by more from quoting activity? Is that what gives you that confidence and, you know, sort of the magnitude of it?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Thank you. Yeah, so I start off and I'm going to hand over to Mike on the stimulus topic because he's quite close to it. So two of the largest end markets, you know, led the results in the quarter. We saw a small molecule continues to grow. We grew about 6%. BioPharma grew mid single digits. And we saw that through particular focus on innovative BioPharma, right? So ADCs, oligos and GLP-1s. The cam market in China grew low teams, and that was led in two areas. Petrochemicals continue to benefit from lower crude oil prices, so that's very beneficial to us. And with advanced materials, China continues to build out their domestic semiconductor ecosystem, which is really important. There is a new development within China where there is unleashing what is called a new quality productive forces policy, which is around innovation and investing in innovation. And that's going to be launched by central government. That's going to increase the pace of innovation across many industries. And we're extremely well poised to benefit from that because we've invested in a solution center and a lab productivity center that really fits in that. And we've actually seen some of the orders or quotes for that going out. But overall, I think China's state We see that kind of improving as we go into 26 because of those drivers. But on the stimulus, Mike, do you want to talk a little bit about what you're seeing right now?

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Mike Zhang
President, Applied Markets Group

Yeah, Paul, first of all, we have a very strong relationship with customers, and we are working with customers very closely to continue to support a customer as they prepare for the investment. And we continue to build strong funnels. Obviously, you know, it takes time to materialize, but we're still very excited about the potential. And if you look at the track record, we have very strong and a high win rate. So we're very excited about that potential.

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Puneet Sutta
Analyst, Leerink Partners

Okay. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question comes from the line at Dan Leonard with UBS. Please go ahead.

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Dan Leonard
Analyst, UBS

Thank you. My first question is a clarification on the pricing front. Rodney, I think you said pricing was a 100 basis point year-over-year tailwind, but the PORG, you also mentioned that value-driven pricing was double the impact of the prior year. So can you help me reconcile those two comments? I thought pricing might have been a bit better a year ago.

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Rodney Gonzalez
Vice President and Interim CFO

This is Rodney. No, it was about 50 bits last year, year-on-year, and as I said earlier, about 100 bits this year.

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Dan Leonard
Analyst, UBS

Okay, that's square. Thank you. And then just my follow-up question here. I don't think I've heard you talk so much about the replacement opportunity in the chemical market since the launch of the Intuvo, and that was a very long time ago. So can you maybe help frame that replacement opportunity that you're alluding to, Jorge?

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Porek McDonald
President and CEO

Yeah, for sure. I'm going to bring in Mike here on the AMG side to talk about that. Yeah.

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Mike Zhang
President, Applied Markets Group

First of all, as Paul just highlighted, we have a very strong market share in this market, and we have a very large install base. Intuva certainly is a great innovation, but we continue to evolve innovation that we have created from Intuva. We continue to put that into the current platforms, and we are seeing a lot of momentum. As you can tell, because the customers continue to improve their productivities, they're embracing the new technologies. But I think what's more important, let me take the new GC we just launched as an example, like 8050 GC. It's a perfect replacement to advance the technologies and productivity, sustainability that customers are looking for from us. So overall, I think you have to remember our strong position in the market. Our very strong portfolios are continuous innovation. But what's more exciting that we have a strong pipeline of innovation to drive as this replacement cycle continues to accelerate.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Mr. Ahuja, I'll turn the call back over to you.

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Parmeet Ahuja
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks. Thanks, Regina. And thanks, everyone, for joining the call today. With that, we'd like to end the call. Have a good rest of the day, everyone.

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Operator
Conference Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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