4/29/2021

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the BrightSphere Investment Group earnings conference call and webcast for the first quarter 2021. During the call, all participants will be in listen-only mode. After the presentation, we will conduct the question and answer session. To be added to the queue, please press star followed by one at any time during the call. If you need to reach an operator, please press star followed by zero. Please note that this call is being recorded today, Thursday, April 29, 2021, at 11 o'clock a.m. Eastern Time. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Ellie Sugarman, Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Ellie. Thank you.

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Ellie Sugarman
Head of Corporate Development and Investor Relations

Good morning and welcome to Brightstreet's conference call to discuss our results for the first quarter ended March 31st, 2021. Before we get started, please note that we may make forward-looking statements about our business and financial performance. Each forward-looking statement is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results different materially from those projected. Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears in our SEC filings, including the form 8K5 today, containing the earnings release in our 2020 Form 10-K. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update them as a result of new information for future events. We may also reference certain non-GAAP financial metrics. Information about any non-GAAP measures referenced, including a reconciliation of those measures to GAAP measures, can be found on our website along with the slides that we will use as part of today's discussion. Finally, nothing herein shall be deemed to be an offer or solicitation to buy any investment products. Surin Rana, our President and Chief Executive Officer, will lead the call. Now, I'm pleased to turn it over to Surin. Surin?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ali. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us this morning. As usual, I'll focus my initial remarks on the key highlights in the quarter, that we summarize here on slide five of the deck, and then we can switch to Q&A. So let me start with refreshing the context and remind everyone that we announced the sale of our affiliate landmark in March this year, and we're expecting that transaction to close near the end of the current quarter. The valuation we received for our stake was quite attractive at 16.4x EV to adjusted EBITDA multiple. and with total proceeds from the payout to us of $724 million pre-tax and $630 million after-tax. So, this transaction unlocked and crystallizes significant value for our shareholders. Given the announced sales, effective 1-2-21, Landmark has been moved into discontinued operations. So now, we essentially have two primary affiliates, our largest business, Akabian, which comprises our quantum solutions segment, and TSW, which comprises our liquid alpha segment. Both Acadian and TSW are very well-positioned, differentiated businesses, and we will continue to follow our approach of full affiliate autonomy in managing and growing our business, while continuing to be lean and maintaining expense discipline at our focus centers. So, with Landmark now included in discontinued operations, we don't have the alternative segment any longer. Campbell Global, our earliest focus on forest resources, which used to be included in the alternative segment along with Landmark, has now been moved to the other segment. Now, moving to our financial results for the quarter, we reported ENI per share of 34 cents for the first quarter of this year. compared to $0.30 for the first quarter of last year. Again, to be clear, E&I for both periods is excluding landmarks. If landmark was included, it would have contributed $0.11 to our EPS for 1-21 and $0.10 for 1-20. So if you're trying to compare to our prior reporting, the EPS for 1-21 would be $0.45 if you add landmarks. The increase in reported EPS to $0.34 per share compared to the $0.30 a year ago primarily was driven by the market recovery since then, the cost savings that we achieved from restructuring our corporate center, and finally our share repurchase activity last year. These three factors helped us to more than offset the absence of earnings from barrel hand leads. which was reflected in our 1 through 20 results, but not in 1 through 21, since we already closed that transaction in the fourth quarter of 2020. The EPS of 34 cents in the quarter is relatively flat compared to 35 cents for the fourth quarter of 2020. And this reflects the benefit of continued market appreciation, which was just about offset by the disposition of their AMREs. Because in 4-20, we had earnings from Better Hanley for about half the quarter until the closing of that sale in the middle of that quarter. But in 1-21, we obviously had no earnings from Better Hanley. Our net fine cash flows in the quarter were negative $2.4 billion compared to negative $1.5 billion in 4-20. Again, to be clear, both numbers exclude landmarks. In 1.221, in the liquid alpha segment, we had positive net client cash flows of 1.2 billion, but we had net outflows of 3.6 billion in quantum solutions. And the outflows in quantum solutions were primarily driven by some reallocations from one or two strategies by select clients. So there was a lot of lumpiness in the flows, which we don't see as recurring. For example, in the second quarter so far, we're seeing positive flows in the segment. The investment performance of both of our key affiliates, Acadian and TSW, continues to be strong. Acadian's long-term performance strengthened further in the quarter with 57%, 84%, and 91% of strategies by revenue now beating their benchmarks over the prior three, five, and 10-year periods. compared to 43%, 50% and 90% in Q4 2020. Turning to capital management, in 1.2.21, we fully terminated our culture devolving facility at the parent company level and assigned it to Acadian with a reduced maximum size of 125 million. So, this facility is now available only to Acadian for their general needs and not to VC parents. As we've discussed a few times previously, Acadian has seasonal needs in the first quarter, given the timing of the annual bonuses. So, Acadian drew $81 million on the facility in 1-2-21 for the seasonal need and they expect to fully pay it down within the year. Our total consolidated debt at the end of the quarter, including the seasonal Acadian draw on the revolver, stood at $475 million. Compared to this, the cash on our balance sheet at the end of the quarter was $450 million. Closing the landmark sale later in the second quarter would provide us another $630 million after tax. So that provides us ample capacity to be leveraged substantially, as well as return capital to our shareholders. Now, let me turn the call back to the operator, and I'm happy to answer questions at this point.

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Operator

If you would like to ask an audio question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, that's star 1 to ask an audio question. Your first question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler with Credit Suisse.

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Craig Siegenthaler
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Good morning, Soren. Hope all is well.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

Hi, Craig.

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Craig Siegenthaler
Analyst, Credit Suisse

So, Soren, how should we think about your capital return priorities this year between share repurchases dividends, and maybe even a special dividend?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Greg. We're still thinking through it. As I said earlier, we're expecting another $630 million near the end of the quarter. So once that capital is fully in the bag, it'll be easier to have a holistic view and a position at that point rather than trenching it and doing a little bit now without having the second part fully executed. But in terms of priorities, those are the uses, essentially, the leveraging and returning capital to the shareholders, and then the mechanisms by which we do it, we're still working through it. Essentially, the second shooter drop is closing on that landmark sale, which we have near certainty on, but it's always good to have it fully in the bag.

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Craig Siegenthaler
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you, Soren. That was it for me.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Glenn Shore with Evercore ISI.

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Glenn Shore
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hi, Soren. I appreciate the color on the quarter and not recurring flows on the quant side, but I'm still curious to hear a little bit more. about the asset reallocations that happened during the quarter. What kind of conversations do you have to know that it's just a reallocation? And is it out of equities? Because equity markets did well. You mentioned the rising market environment. That blew me a little bit. I'm just curious for a little more color. Thanks.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Glenn. Yeah, sometimes what happens is when markets are doing well and our strategies are doing well, some clients will do some profit-taking, if you will, and move it to other areas that maybe haven't done so well. So we saw that factor play a little bit. There are also some idiosyncratic things that have been given the institutional business, and that's what I alluded to, the lumpiness. For example, a larger outflow was related to a client reallocating because of a regulatory concern around not having too much exposure to one manager. So these kind of idiosyncratic things do happen. Of course, some regular way outflows and inflows are related to people just looking at what strategies would do best. So, for example, we touched on that in a rising environment, managed low volatility type of strategy isn't necessarily on everyone's mind right now. So, you know, there are things that happen in select strategies like that, but it's a very diversified business. And so there are other strategies, regional strategies, and have strategies with different objectives that see influence. So, it's a combination of all of those, but definitely some ideas from Chris that you had mentioned.

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Glenn Shore
Analyst, Evercore ISI

I appreciate that. Maybe I just could follow up on that because my other question was on you commented about continuing on the product innovation side. I wondered if you could just expand that thought a little bit for both on the Quanta and Liquid Alpha side. That would be great. Thanks.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

yeah so we continue to support our affiliates with uh with capital uh particularly in terms of seeing new strategies uh and that's where that's where we can help best but uh but the efforts themselves are really driven by the affiliate teams based on the feedback from clients in terms of what the clients are looking for them to uh to do uh into to provide But we continue to provide and we encourage our affiliates to continue to develop products that they can feed. So it's essentially a recurring R&D effort, if you will.

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Glenn Shore
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Thanks, Sam. Appreciate it. Thanks, Glenn.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Carrier with Bank of America.

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Mike Carrier
Analyst, Bank of America

The question is, So just on the M&A front, given active conversations that you've had with buyers, you know, which led to successful sales of Barrel Hanley and Landmark, how have conversations been, you know, for the overall franchise, you know, during those conversations? And any restrictions, you know, or headwinds in the way for further demand?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, the M&A environment over the last year and a half has been very constructive, and definitely industry participants are looking for capabilities, are looking for scale. There are a variety of factors at play. And as we said to the market and our shareholders, that our primary focus is fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value. And we have a good client in our affiliates are strong businesses and that generate really good cash flow. So we don't necessarily have to do anything, but we do, as a result of our public stance, that we are open-minded and have a fiduciary duty to maximize value. We do get inquiries from time to time, and we review them along with – And if there's anything that you can add, anything of interest, we discuss further. So that's generally how we've been approaching things.

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Mike Carrier
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Okay. And then just on capital return, it sounds like, you know, post-landmark, you know, then you'll have an update on, you know, kind of the strategy. So before that, so in the second quarter, should we not assume, you know, much in terms of buybacks?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's really hard to peg. Like I said, we would prefer to not transit. So, essentially, we would like to actually have a holistic plan for the entire amount. So, if there's anything, it would be pretty close once we reach the closing. But we wouldn't do much in advance of getting to the closing.

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Mike Carrier
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it, all right, thanks a lot.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Kenneth Lee with RBC Capital Markets.

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Kenneth Lee
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Behind the motivations of assigning the corporate revolving facility to Acadian, just wondering if there's anything else You want to share with that? Thanks.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Again, I think we missed the first part of your question. So if I don't answer it, I can ask again. But I think I got it. What's the motivation to find the revolver to Acadian? And that really has to do with the leveraging. We had a large facility, $450 million originally, which we reduced because we had cash building up. So we didn't really have a need for that much credit. So we reduced it first. And then, as I mentioned, we do have a seasonal need every year at Acadian, which is not a long-term leverage need because there is a first quarter need to pay bonuses and then the revenues and earnings in subsequent quarters more than pay off for that. So it's a classic credit line need. And it's more needed at Acadian. So we basically moved it there because at the parent level, we don't really have any need for a credit given the excess capital we have. And it's also, from a leverage perspective, it's very low leverage relative to Acadian's EBITDA in the sense that 80 million draw is a fraction of their EBITDA. So it's a pretty robust facility that meets the needs.

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Kenneth Lee
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. That's helpful, and that answered my question. Just one follow-up, if I may. I wonder if you could just highlight any products or strategies that you've been seeing some good demand within the quarter. Thanks.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that kind of varies, you know, quarter to quarter. It's pretty diversified overall. So most strategies at Acadian are seeing demand. At TSW, we saw some good wins, as you saw in the good alpha flows on international equity side. And Acadian, I guess, you know, maybe once I touched on this earlier, one strategy is we didn't see a lot of demand in this kind of environment with low volatility managed volatility strategies but generally otherwise we did see pretty good demand across the board and we touched on this that some of these new strategies we're seeing While not big numbers yet, they continue to get traction. For example, the multi-effort class strategy, which goes beyond equities but leverages the same multi-factor approach and data and philosophy, we're seeing we continue to see good traction there.

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Kenneth Lee
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Great. That's very helpful. Thanks again.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Ken.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Cypress with Morgan Stanley.

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Michael Cypress
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just another on capital management. So it sounds like you're waiting until the landmark sale closes before, I guess, deciding on, you know, how much and how to sort of pursue that. If I hear you correctly, that means it would be the third quarter or, sorry, second quarter conference call in July is when we would expect to hear an update. Is that right? Or what's the scenario? where we could hear or see something any sooner than that. And maybe if you could just elaborate a little bit on why wait so long. I think last quarter or the quarter or two before you were suggesting we would be able to hear an update in the next couple of months, which some were suggesting thinking would be this quarter's conference call.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so on the first part, Mike, yeah, that's accurate, that we would probably have an update on our next earnings call. or right around then, it would definitely be around or after the closing of Landmark so that we know, so they definitely have the capital that we are looking to deploy. That's part one. And the second part, yes, in the last earnings call, we were probably expecting within a few months from then, but then we of course had a sizable development. in terms of sale of Landmark, which essentially obviously changes the magnitude of the capital we're looking to deploy and hence a reworking, if you will, of our approach.

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Michael Cypress
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Is it also fair that given you were in discussions to sell Landmark, you were prohibited from buying back stock earlier in the year because of those discussions and if that's correct and if you were theoretically in discussions today around selling something else would that also theoretically limit your ability to buy back stock over the next couple months if theoretically if you were in such discussions yeah we do have those type of constraints from time to time uh in terms of buyback in particular or any material repeat if we are in a blackout window

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

before earnings or if you're on conversations, real conversations on a material part of the business. Yes, so that would restrict us from time to time.

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Michael Cypress
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Sorry, just one last one. If you were to sort of sell off maybe Acadian here, but then there's a lot of cash left in the public entity and a small business with Campbell and TSNW, how do you think about a small public company, a large cash position, but significantly smaller business, you know, what sort of scenario could such a thing play out?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we would generally not consider that specific kind of scenario. As I said, we very much are pleased with our businesses, right, as you saw with Liquid Alpha, we have flows. And with Acadian, it's a very strong business that's highly regarded and reputed around the world. But if some inquiries came in from the perspective of a little beauty, we do consider them. But, of course, you see even the landmark, which is a business we bought not so many years ago, there is some tax leakage. And the larger the value, the more the tax leakage. So that would also be a factor in considering something. So the scenario laid out that we sell our largest business and pay a big tax bill and have a smaller business is probably no likelihood. It would only be something that's so compelling that in spite of that, we don't have it. Got it. Thank you very much.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Lee with KBW.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

Good morning, Sharon. Thank you for taking my question. Just real quickly, two questions. First, just an actual modeling question. In the liquid output segment, is there anything, since I guess largely TSMW, we're only TSMW right now, is there anything that would be a $9 million of adjusted EBITDA that

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

That's a good runway, is there anything kind of seasonal maybe in that around comp or something as you're trying to think of the first clean quarter without Barrow, I guess.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

So just trying to get a handle if that's a good runway. That's the first question.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's mostly basically TSWs. Now we announced the sale of ICM in our 10K and that is to be closed. So, ICM results and flows are in there as well. So, that was essentially six. It's basically clean, but there is slight noise. No ICM, it's not, you know, it's another income. So, there's a flow into the full P&L. So, I would say next quarter would be a clean quarter, essentially. But you can consider it mostly PS7. Okay. another quick question on the uh the revolver that you've done circadian yes we of course they repeat about every eye that we've moved down there and stairs but there's no it's complete non-recourse to the whole company correct yeah that that is right and you know for the touchdown it was uh essentially the leveraging with the driver uh somebody moving into the stadium and having very low service ratios at Acadian it's non-recourse to v-safe so that while it's consolidated in our debt it is it is not apples to apples because it's non-recourse to v-safe that's right okay and you I guess you kind of addressed this in your prior comments about traffic leakage and security reasons there any noticeable or meaningful you know the contact that I said post the landmark deal that'll remain at the hotel is pretty much uh Yeah, we pretty much used up our deferred tax assets last year from the earnings that we had, as well as the sales that we had with Barrow and others. So with Landmark, actually, we didn't have much left to use. Right. Great. If you have any questions, thanks so much. Thank you, Rob.

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Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Justin Ziegler with Eaton Vance.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

Follow-up on the transfer of the revolver to Acadian. You just mentioned it's non-recourse. But in doing that, are you guys still beholden to the covenants or there are shifts in how those apply to debt payments? and leverage at the holding company? And what does this do in terms of cash flow up to the corporate center as well? And how does that kind of affect how, you know, bondholders might be, at least on the unsecured basis, that the holding company still have that kind of edict available to them?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thank you, Justin, for asking that question. It seems like it wasn't clear in the material, so I appreciate that. Yeah, so essentially that is the benefit that now at the parent level, we don't have any debt to EBITDA covenants because our bonds did not have such covenants. But we did have a debt to EBITDA covenant on our revolver. So by moving it out of the corporate structure, we don't have that covenant at a parent level. There is a debt to EBITDA covenant at a cadian level. uh on the facility uh in the area that uh uh if you look at the most recent quarters it's um you know close to two x multiple of of how much uh you know they they drew uh so uh so there is ample quotient at a cadian level given this is such a small uh portion of their There aren't any restrictions in terms of the distributions that come to us, of course, except in scenarios where, you know, if you have an extreme scenario where debt servicing was a problem and all our business went away, which, of course, is, you know, next to, you know, you wouldn't really think that's a scenario. It's a conceivable scenario. So it's a prudent scenario. approach essentially that's a very low leverage at a Canadian level, no restrictions on our distributions and no covenants at the current level.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

Okay. Thanks for that clarification. And as you think about the year coming forward by the end of 2021, you stated intention to delever. You've got the call coming up in June. But, you know, given you have like kind of two affiliates with maybe less overall, how do you think about leverage at the holding company going forward, and what's your target area for that?

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, generally, we would say basically one of the low two racks, you know, in terms of total leverage, and we do, of course, we have compared, for example, excluding the seasonal need, we have shy of $400 million on our bonds, you know, and our cash already is $450 million, and then we would have another $630 million coming from sale of landmarks. So we have essentially pretty low leverage on a net basis, but even in terms of EBITDA to down multiple, we would generally want to stay below two, if not lower. Okay.

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Robert Lee
Analyst, KBW Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Operator

There are no questions at this time.

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Surin Rana
President and Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. And we look forward to talking to everyone next quarter.

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