Accenture PLC

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

3/18/2021

spk05: investor relations section of our website at Accenture.com. As always, Accenture assumes no obligation to update the information presented on this conference call. Now let me turn the call over to Julie.
spk06: Thank you, Angie, and thank you everyone for joining us. Today we are proud to announce outstanding financial results for the second quarter of fiscal 21 and our return to pre-COVID level financial results a quarter earlier than we expected and with a tough compare. Let's first go back 12 months ago on March 19th, only eight days after the pandemic was declared when we were all together to announce our outstanding fiscal year 20 Q2 financial results. Results you may not remember because at the time we were all focused on the go forward potential impact of the pandemic. In Q2 of fiscal year 20, we had 8% revenue growth in local currency, our then highest bookings ever of $14.2 billion and strong underlying profitability and free cash flow. We also announced that 18 clients that quarter had bookings over $100 million. With this backdrop of fiscal year 20 Q2, the significance of this Q2's results in fiscal year 21 becomes even more clear. We have delivered 5.4% revenue growth in local currency, which includes a reduction of two percentage points from a decline in revenue from reimbursable travel costs, meaning apples to apples, 5.4% is in the zone of fiscal year 20 Q2 revenue when you exclude the travel costs related revenue. We have delivered bookings of $16 billion, beating our previous record set in Q2 last year by $1.8 billion and we have delivered strong profitability and free cash flow. This quarter, 18 clients had bookings over $100 million and we continue to take market share faster than pre-COVID. In H1, we have accelerated our investment in B&A with approximately $1.1 billion of capital deployed and we are increasing our programmatic B&A investment to at least $2 billion for FY21 from the $1.7 billion we previously communicated. And for the last 12 months, we have remained consistent. We gave guidance every quarter which we met or beat. We deliberately invested in our people and preserved our talent to continue to serve our clients as demand came back. And we continue to significantly invest in our business and our communities. And throughout, we have lived our core values, including maintaining without pause our commitment to make more progress on diversity and inclusion and sustainability. These financial results reflect these choices, the strength of our core values and the power of our laser focus on creating client value and being a trusted partner, as well as our incredibly talented people, strong ecosystem relationships and the resilience of our growth strategy, as well as the substantial investments we have made year in and year out since we set out to be the leader in digital cloud and security and continuous innovation. They also reflect the operational rigor and discipline that long has been a hallmark of our success. I want to thank our people for their hard work and continued dedication to to our clients, and for delivering on our commitments. Casey, over to you.
spk08: Thank you, Julie, and thanks to all of you for taking the time to join us on today's call. We were very pleased with our overall results in the second quarter, which exceeded our expectations and reflects strong momentum across our business. We are particularly pleased with our record new bookings and strong revenue growth, which demonstrate our leading position in the market as a trusted partner to deliver value for our clients. Based on the strength of our second quarter results and the confidence in the second half of the fiscal year, we are increasing all elements of our full year outlook, which I will cover in more detail later in our call. Now, let me begin by summarizing a few of the highlights for the quarter. Revenues grew 5.4% in local currency and continue to include a reduction of approximately two percentage points from a decline in revenues from reimbursable travel costs. Q2 revenues were nearly $140 million above our guided range, driven by broad-based over-delivery across all dimensions, markets, services, and industries, as our business built back even faster than anticipated. We also continued to extend our leadership position with growth significantly above the market. We saw broad improvement in industry trends. Approximately 50% of our revenues came from seven industries that were less impacted by the pandemic, which in aggregate accelerated this quarter to low double-digit growth. At the same time, we saw continued improvement from clients in highly impacted industries, which collectively represents over 20% of our revenues and declined mid-single digits. Operating margin was 13.7%, an increase of 30 basis points for the quarter and 40 basis points year-to-date, reflecting strong underlying profitability as we continue to invest in our business and our people, including the one-time bonus we just announced. We continued to benefit from lower spend on travel, meeting, and events. And we delivered very strong EPS of $2.03, up 10% over fiscal 20, after adjusting both years for gains in investment. And finally, we generated significant free cash flow of $2.4 billion in the quarter and $4 billion year-to-date. We continue to execute on our strategic capital allocation objective with roughly $3.1 billion returned to shareholders via dividends and share repurchases year to date. We've made investments of $1.1 billion in acquisitions, primarily attributed to 19 transactions in the first half of the year. And we expect to invest at least $2 billion in acquisitions this fiscal year. With that, let me turn to some of the details starting with new bookings. New bookings were a record at $16 billion, representing a 13% growth in US dollar over previous records in Q2 of last year. We had a very strong overall book-to-bill of 1.3 and a quarter and 1.2 year-to-date. Consulting bookings were $8 billion, a record high with a book-to-bill of 1.2. Outsourcing bookings were also a record at $8 billion with a book to bill of 1.4. Similar to last quarter, our bookings were driven by both technology services and operations. We were pleased with the strength of our bookings in strategy and consulting with a book to bill of 1.2. Turning now to revenues. Revenues for the quarter were $12.1 billion, an 8% increase in U.S. dollars and 5.4% in local currency, including a reduction of approximately 2% from a decline in revenues from reimbursable travel costs. Consulting revenues for the quarter were $6.4 billion, of 4% U.S. dollars and up 1% local currency, including a reduction of approximately 3% from a decline in revenues from reimbursable travel costs. Outsourcing revenues were $5.6 billion of 14% in U.S. dollars and 11% in local currency. Taking a closer look at our service dimensions, both operations and technology services grew double digits. As expected, strategy and consulting services declined high single digits, and we expect strategy and consulting to return to growth in Q3. Turning to our geographic markets, the industry dynamics that I mentioned earlier continue to play out in a similar manner across all three markets. In North America, revenue growth was 7% in local currency. In Europe, revenues grew 3% in local currency, driven by mid-single-digit growth in Italy and the UK. In growth markets, we delivered 6% revenue growth in local currency, driven by double-digit growth in Japan. Moving down the income statement, Gross margin for the quarter was 29.7% compared with 30.2% for the same period last year. Sales and marketing expense for the quarter was 9.4% compared with 10.4% for the second quarter last year. General and administrative expenses was 6.6% compared to 6.4% for the same quarter last year. Operating income was $1.7 billion in the second quarter, reflecting a 13.7% operating margin, up 30 basis points compared with Q2 last year. Before I continue, as a reminder, in Q2 last year, we recognized an investment gain which impacted our tax rate and increased EPS by 7 cents. This quarter, we again recognized an investment gain which impacted our tax rate and increased EPS by 21 cents. The following comparisons exclude these impacts and reflect adjusted results. Our adjusted effective tax rate for the quarter was 17.5% compared with the adjusted effective tax rate of 17.1% for the second quarter last year. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $2.03 compared with an adjusted EPS of $1.84 in the second quarter last year. This reflects a 10% year-over-year increase. Days service outstanding were 34 days compared to 38 days last quarter and 39 days in the second quarter of last year. Free cash flow for the quarter was $2.4 billion. resulting from cash generated by operating activities of $2.5 billion, net of property and equipment additions of $93 million. Our cash balance of February 28th was $9.2 billion, compared with $8.4 billion at August 31st. With regards to our ongoing objective to return cash to shareholders, in the second quarter, we were purchased or redeemed 4.6 million shares for $1.2 billion, and an average price of $2.5 $155.29 per share. As of February 28th, we had approximately $5 billion of share repurchase authority remaining. Also in February, we paid a quarterly cash dividend of 88 cents per share for a total of $561 million. This represented a 10% increase over last year. And our board of directors declare a quarterly cash dividend of 88 cents per share to be paid on May 14th a 10% increase over last year. So at the halfway point of fiscal 21, we feel really good about our results to date and our positioning for the remainder of the year, realizing that the pace of recovery is hard to accurately predict. Now, let me turn it back to Julie.
spk06: Thank you, Casey. Let me start with the environment. We continue to see compressed transformations where companies have to simultaneously transform multiple parts of their enterprise and reskill their people in what previously would have been sequential programs. They're doing so to replatform their businesses in the cloud, address cost pressures, build resilience and security, adjust their operations and customer experiences, and find new sources of growth. COVID has hit a giant fast-forward button to the future. And we believe the demand to innovate at unprecedented speed and scale with rapid adoption of cloud AI and other disruptive technologies is accelerating. For digital leaders, we see them no longer strictly competing for market share, but to build their vision of the future faster than the competition. And for digital laggards, they are determined to not simply catch up, but to leapfrog. Well, COVID has accelerated the demand The reality is that the extent of transformation ahead is enormous. The move from approximately 20% to 80% in the cloud alone is a huge undertaking, and it is just the start as companies will then continue to invest to grow and innovate on their new cloud foundations, which leads me to the role we are playing. In Q2, our engines of growth across Accenture have roared to life to meet these needs of our clients, and we see strong momentum going into Q3. I will share some color and examples. We called the once in a digital era replatforming of businesses into the cloud in September 2020 when we created Accenture Cloud First to bring industry, cloud, and state-of-the-art change management and transformation together. We saw this quarter's strong double-digit growth in cloud overall, as well as the subset of Accenture Cloud First, which growth was even higher. Intelligent platform services, which is essential to building the digital core of our clients, is back to high single-digit growth as companies resume this critical aspect of their transformation. Applied intelligence with our data and AI solutions and security, both sizable but still in the early stages of the scale we expect long-term, both had strong double-digit growth in Q2. Operations grew double digits as companies seek to digitize their enterprises, leveraging our deep industry and functional expertise in AI-driven Synapse platform. Interactive improved and grew high single digits as companies continue to shift to digital channels, need cost efficiencies around sales and marketing to invest in new capabilities, seek more data-driven marketing campaigns, and compete for customers and employees on the experience they provide. Industry X, which is helping diversify our sources of revenue in the enterprise, grew strong double digits, driven by the need for product and engineers to accelerate the time to market of smarter and more sustainable products, and the need to enhance the efficiency and flexibility of manufacturing facilities and the ability to interconnect machines and operate remotely. These engines of growth are multi-service, bringing the best of Accenture's strategy and consulting, interactive technology, and operations services together to create value. We are distinctive because no other competitor has our scale and breadth of services which allows us to seamlessly serve the different dimensions of compressed transformations. We also are able to give our clients speed and cost levers through our managed services to digitize using our assets and platforms and address cost pressures. Furthermore, our distinctive capabilities in industry, innovation, and investment are clear differentiators. Our strong strategy and consulting practitioners bring deep industry expertise to all functions of the enterprise, and help bring together our services to deliver to our clients, often informed by cross-industry insights, such as for payments and omnichannel engagement. Our ability and commitment to consistently invest in acquisitions, R&D, and our people is unmatched in our industry, and our clients know that that through our investments and focus on innovation, we will help future-proof them, such as our innovation in emerging technologies, like the work Accenture Labs is doing testing applications using neuromorphic computing, where circuits are modeled after systems in the human brain and nervous system to deliver new AI capabilities. And our 360-degree value strategy, which seeks to bring talent upskilling, diversity and inclusion, and sustainability to our work, is resonating with our clients as they seek to make progress as they transform. Two great examples of compressed transformation, strong leaders, and our 360-degree value strategy are AIG and Shiseido. We are partnering with AIG, a leading global insurance organization, to help them drive their AIG 200 program which is designed to achieve underwriting excellence, modernize their operating infrastructure, enhance user and customer experience, and become a more unified company. This quarter, we acquired AIG's shared services operations, which we will transform to serve AIG to create a modern digital shared services platform with end-to-end processes that will improve the user experience using our Synapse platform. And consistent with our 360-degree value strategy, we are investing in upskilling our new employees. We have entered into a strategic partnership with Shiseido, a leading global beauty company headquartered in Japan. Shiseido has launched a fundamental business transformation, aiming to become a global leader in premium skin beauty by 2030 under its new medium-to-long-term strategy, WIN 2023 and Beyond. We are partnering with Shiseido to accelerate digital transformation and create personalized and seamless customer experiences. Design, develop, and implement a cloud-based system that will help it adopt processes that enable continuous financial reporting, better forecasting accuracy, and more precise inventory management. We are helping them use AI analytics and automation to create new business value and helping their employees gain high-level digital skills. We are working with Specsavers, the UK-based leader in optometry, audiology, and other healthcare services to reimagine and transform their entire IT organization through our living systems approach. We are leveraging new ways of working and agile foundations to capture efficiencies and reduce costs while positioning the company for growth and diversification to drive business resilience. With our managed security services, we are helping a central bank in Asia strengthen their resilience against cyber threats and build in the flexibility to securely grow their payment transactions from millions to billions at speed and scale. Our Industry X team is helping Formula One relaunch its F1 TV Grand Prix racing product by using the cloud-based Accenture video solution live streams from 20 trackside and onboard cameras, and a growing range of connected devices, we are continuously innovating to embed intelligence in their platforms to deliver the best possible viewer experience. Now, let me turn to Accenture's greatest and undeniable competitive advantage. Our nearly 537,000 people, they are at the heart of our outstanding results. Fundamental to our core values is to care deeply for our people, and we place significant importance on providing a meaningful employee experience. For almost every person around the world, living and working during the pandemic has been challenging. To help our people succeed both professionally and personally during this time, we have put in place many programs. For example, we are partnering with Bright Horizons in the U.S. through development of an innovative program for school-aged children to receive proctoring for their virtual studies and homework. We have extended telemedicine to parents of our employees in India, and we are providing industry-leading mental wellness programs, including Thriving Minds, a holistic well-being program that teaches us about the science behind stress and how to recharge your brain's battery. We are proud that more than 160,000 of our people have completed the program with impressive results, including nearly 9 out of 10 participants reported feeling significantly better able to handle challenges in the workplace. Equally important is our focus on vibrant career paths. We have maintained pay increases, bonuses, and promotions, both in our normal December time period as well as an added round of promotions in February. enabling us to promote in total at the same level as the prior year. Additionally, we will expand our regular mid-year promotions this coming June to include managing directors, a first in our company's history, as one more way we continue to create new opportunities for our people. And today, we are announcing a special one-time bonus for all of our people below managing director, to recognize the contributions and dedication to our clients during this difficult year. Continuous learning also is a defining feature of Accenture. We continue to invest in our people and their market-leading skills with a 28% increase in training hours and 25% increase in hours per person just this quarter. And coming back to our ability to attract talent, We know that people want to work for companies that not only create value, but also lead with values. We are proud this quarter to have been named for the 14th consecutive year on Ethisphere's World's Most Ethical Companies list and for the 19th consecutive year on Fortune's World's Most Admired Companies. Our strategic decision to preserve our talent last year, including our recruiters, provided a strong base to meet the surge in demand we have experienced. Recruiting, hiring, and managing supply and demand has always been a core competency, and we are confident in our ability to attract talent and continue to meet the increased demand. We increased hiring approximately 50% both year over year and since last quarter, and we've onboarded over 100,000 people virtually over the last 12 months with new, innovative approaches. I would like to recognize the extraordinary leadership and efforts of our Chief Leadership and Human Resources Officer, Ellen Shook, and her outstanding team around the globe for how they have helped care for our people throughout the pandemic, guided us through health and safety of COVID, are ensuring that we are continuously reskilling our people, and have helped us manage and realize the incredible expansion of our talent to meet the needs of our clients. Over to you, Casey, for a look ahead.
spk08: Thanks, Julie. Let me now turn to our business outlook. For the third quarter of fiscal 21, we expect revenues to be in the range of 12.55 to 12.95 billion. This assumes the impact of FX will be about positive 4.5% compared to the third quarter of fiscal 20 and reflects an estimated 10 to 13% growth in local currency. For the full fiscal year 21, based upon how the rates have been trending over the last few weeks, we continue to expect the impact of FX on our results in U.S. dollars will be approximately positive 3% compared to fiscal 20. The full fiscal 21, we now expect our revenue to be in the range of 6.5% to 8.5% growth in local currency over fiscal 20, including approximately negative 1% from a decline in revenues from reimbursable travel based on a 2% reduction the first half of the year and no material impact in the second half of the year. For operating margin, we now expect fiscal year 21 to be 15 to 15.1% of 30 to 40 basis point expansion over fiscal 20 results. We continue to expect our annual adjusted effective tax rate to be in the range of 23 to 25%. This compares to an adjusted effective tax rate of 23.9% in fiscal 20. For earnings per share, We now expect full-year diluted EPS for fiscal 21 to be in the range of $8.67 to $8.85. We now expect adjusted full-year diluted EPS to be in the range of $8.32 to $8.50, or 12% to 14% growth over adjusted fiscal 20 results. For the full fiscal 21, we now expect operating cash flow to be in the range of 7.65 to 8.15 billion, property and equipment additions to be approximately 650 million, and free cash flow to be in the range of seven to seven and a half billion dollars. Our free cash flow guidance continues to reflect a very strong free cash flow to adjusted net income ratio of 1.3 to 1.4. Finally, we now expect to return at least $5.8 billion, an increase of $500 million, through dividends and shared repurchases as we remain committed to returning a substantial portion of cash to our shareholders. With that, let's open it up so that we can take your questions. Angie?
spk05: Thanks, Casey. I would ask that you each keep to one question and a follow-up to allow as many participants as possible to ask a question. Operator, would you provide instructions for those on the call?
spk10: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, please press 1 then 0 on your telephone keypad. You may withdraw your question at any time by repeating the 1, 0 command. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, please press 1 then 0 at this time. And one moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk00: Hey, thanks. Terrific results here. I can't remember. I was thinking the last time you guys raised your margin outlook, especially against such strong bookings and investments like Cloud First you talked about, plus this one-time bonus to employees, et cetera. So what's different this time to allow you to do that, to raise margins modestly against some good momentum here? And I'll ask my follow-up just together with this, which is, given the big bookings, thinking about contract execution, do you feel good about sort of the level of expectations you need to deliver here to keep this momentum going? Because I know you put a lot of hard work into driving up the bookings here, but I'm curious if there's anything different to consider here with contract execution. Looking ahead, thanks.
spk08: Okay, thanks, Tenjin. So in terms of operating margins, Let me just cover with you what's the driver this year of our 30 to 40 basis points operating margin expansion. And you're right, it is unusual for us to expand our operating margin halfway through the year. And so, you know, implied in our guidance for the year is obviously continued healthy margin expansion in the back half. That's in addition to the 40 basis points that we've already done year-to-date, and as I mentioned, which does include the impact of the one-time bonus that we're doing for employees below managing director. And I'll just maybe highlight a few things in terms of drivers for the expansion this year. I mean, as always, you know, we first look to strong revenue growth, and we have that again this year. And that's coming along with Increased contract profitability. We do have increased contract profitability coming through in our gross margin in the first half of the year, and that's really the first lever that we always look at. Within this year uniquely are a couple of things. One is utilization. So we are getting some additional margin expansion this year based on our higher utilization rate. We talked about that last quarter, that we're looking to bring that down to more normal levels. It did go up this quarter, and we're still working on that. But clearly in the first half of the year and into the second half, there will be some benefit to operating margin expansion on that. And the second part is due to the lower travel events and meetings spent this year. So we are going to benefit from that overall for the full year. But that benefit really is in the first half of the year. As the baseline last year, in the back half, as you know, we really didn't have travel or have meetings. So it's not a benefit that we'll have in the back half of the year. And I think, you know, overall, the key thing, though, in operating margin is that we always look to drive strong underlying profitability. because we want to ensure that we're investing first in our business, because we want to drive long-term shareholder value. And so that's really the critical part that we're able to continue to invest in our business and in our people and in acquisitions, but while at the same time expanding operating margins significantly.
spk06: Yeah, and Tim, why don't I take the, I'll take the question about execution. We're very confident about our ability to execute. And let me just remind you that one of the things that's really benefiting us is just our absolute excellent performance when the pandemic started and we had to move all of our people from our centers while our clients were having to move remotely. As you'll recall, I shared that we closed the books for 70 public companies and we did so without missing a beat. that we, on average, pre-pandemic, have a new release every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day, on the technology, say, seven days a week, and we have continued with that execution. And, in fact, one of the things that we believe is driving our growth is that we enhanced our standing with our clients because of how we've been able to execute while at the same time we helped many of them move online. So we feel very good. Our centers and our people across the globe in terms of delivery are just amazing, and I should thank them because, you know, at the end of the day, that's what really matters for our people, and we really just have exceptional people.
spk09: Yeah, that's wonderful.
spk10: Your next question comes from the line of Lisa Ellis from Moffitt Nathanson. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hey, good morning. Nice results here. Julie, I wanted to kind of rewind the clock back to early 2020, which obviously feels like eons ago now, but when you reorganized Accenture to pivot to more focus on the geographies and geographic expansion, you know, now that we're a year plus in and the dust has settled a little bit, can you just kind of bring us back to that and reflect on what's working well with that pivot, what's working, you know, maybe less well or has been more challenging than you expected, and what's different about operating in growth markets, just realizing that those, you know, that the growth markets are an important part of the growth story for Accenture going forward. Thank you.
spk06: Sure. Great question. You know, one of the things that we look back on internally as a leadership team was that We actually were very bold in our ambition in my first year as CEO to actually put that new model in place only six months into the fiscal year and change our P&L in the middle of the fiscal year. And we look back and often use it as a lesson as to speed matters because as you think about our execution during the last 12 months, we did so with a new leadership team and a new way of working. And what it really demonstrated was we made the right strategic moves Driving the move from industry to geography were a few things. And remember, what we did was we also put digital everywhere. So we simplified because digital was now the core of our business. But the first thing is what we call the client proximity imperative. We had such scale in all of our markets. We wanted to put our leaders really closer to our clients while at the same time, you the ability to move innovation around the world. And we did that by massively simplifying. And so at the one hand, we made a geographic P&L, but on the other hand, we made critical changes to actually make it easier to move innovation around the world. And secondly, we felt as if the ability to simplify and then have teams come together across our services would really unlock value. And of course, we did that before we had COVID, but we've seen the acceleration of the need for that because our clients are really looking for the ability to bring outcomes. And so just think about the work that we are doing right now. Like I take BBVA, which you may know, it's a customer-centric global financial services company headquartered in Spain. And we have worked with them to move, they wanted to increase their digital sales, and that brings together operations, all of our interactive capabilities like paid media, search engine optimization, analytics, and marketing operations, plus our deep industry experience. And with our support over the last 12 months, they've grown their digital sales more than 50%, and they saw an increase in digital customers by more than 50%. the ability to bring those services together seamlessly to deliver those outcomes has really been enabled by that growth model that both simplified, recognize that the core of our business is now digital cloud and security, and enable us to really meet the needs of the client globally. In terms of growth markets, there's really nothing different there. I mean, the geographic model helps us both focus on the opportunity in each of the markets while at the same time really connecting the innovation and being able to serve global clients better.
spk07: Terrific. Thanks. Maybe my quick follow-up is maybe for Casey, a follow-up on Kinson's question. I know you said, yes, you're running a little hot on utilization right now, and you commented on that as well last quarter. I'm curious, though, with the shift to remote work, One, do you think that shift is going to remain more permanent, and will it allow you to actually maintain a higher level of utilization on a more permanent basis?
spk08: Yeah, you know, so thanks, Lisa, for the question. Yeah, I will just reiterate, we are trying to, you know, we are working to get it back, our utilization back into a more normal range. You know, they did tick up this quarter, and this really is tied to the increased demand that came back hotter than we expected. But we continue to believe that the right answer for our people is to lower it back into our more normal historical ranges. And in terms of the structural, is there a structural change? Our belief is no, that over time there's really not a structural change in utilization. There is probably some increase right now due to remote working, but we don't see, on a go forward, any long-term structural change in our utilization rate.
spk06: Yeah, and just remember, Lisa, we have a very important value proposition that includes being able to do continuous learning, but also the right level of time to do strategic thinking, for example, and to come together around important initiatives. And so that's why we believe that over time, we really should get back into kind of a more normal, regardless of where people are working from. Terrific. Thank you.
spk07: Thanks a lot.
spk10: Your next question comes from the line of Ashwin Srivakar from Citi. Please go ahead.
spk01: Thank you. Hi, Julia and Casey. Congratulations. These are tremendous results. I hate to keep bringing up margin again and again, but one thing I did not necessarily hear you explicitly call out was pricing, which one might expect given sort of a price for value component, given the pivot, the mix as you primarily do, you know, digital cloud and security. And also, you know, frankly, a shortage of resources, right? which was also going to be my follow-up question, is that your attrition has picked up, but still below historical levels. I see all the steps you took towards employee health, wellness, eventually controlling attrition. But as demand accelerates across the industry, do you expect attrition to return to historical, like mid, upper teens type levels?
spk08: Yeah, so, you know, thanks, Anne, Ashwin for the question. So I'll cover the pricing point. I'll hand it over to Julie to talk about attrition. So we're going to start with context overall and what we're seeing in the overall market and the business environment. So as we've been saying and we continue to see that the business environment does remain competitive. And in some areas, we experience pricing pressure, but we are seeing signs of stability. So that's probably the first key point In terms of the pricing that we have across our different markets or services, as you know, the pricing can vary depending on what it is that we're selling and in what markets that we're doing that commercial arrangement. But what is important and what stays the same is that we always look to make sure that we are doing a smart commercial arrangement that benefits both our clients and Accenture, and that's a key part of our 360 degree value. But as it relates to what we're actually delivering in terms of profitability, I do want to highlight that within our operating margin and within gross margin, we have expanded the delivery of client profitability and contract profitability, so that's a key part of our operating margin expansion for the year. And Julie, you want to talk about attrition?
spk06: Yeah, look, I think we would expect that we're going to go back to sort of industry norms on attrition, although we'll always work hard to not do that, right? And we do believe that we're benefiting right now from the way we have cared for our people and the decisions we made to preserve our talent and invest in keeping them through the lower demand era. But certainly... We're tuned as a company to be able to grow and recruit at this level and at the more normal levels, as you said, in the higher teams.
spk01: Thank you. Good results.
spk10: Your next question comes from the line of Brian Keene from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hi, guys, and congratulations from me as well. Just thinking, Julie, about this more structurally longer term, is this growth rate, the back half growth rate obviously being really strong and the back half double-digit growth implied for both the third and the fourth quarter. How has the pandemic changed things that this could be maybe more sustainable than just kind of a one-time pickup in growth and maybe the growth could be I know we've talked about in the past 5% to 8% constant currency growth. Just wondering if that formula has potentially changed in the future due to the pull forward of some of the digital transformation from the pandemic.
spk06: We knew someone was going to try to get us to look ahead for next year, but we're not going to. You got me. But we're not going to. But let me just – so instead of trying to look ahead to next year and thinking about – let's maybe just focus on how we – are looking at our business right now. So if you think about the last six years when we started digital, we rotated our business so that now the core of our business is digital cloud security and all of our services, meaning not just, you know, that's not from a technical perspective. And so think about what we have built our engines of growth as the core of our business, which is what we went through when you think about cloud Industry X, applied intelligence, operations, the things we went through in our script today. And so we have these engines of growth, which we continue to invest in. And I think what's really important, the way we think about our business is, for example, cloud, we already scaled. We told you last quarter it was $12 billion in FY20, but it's growing double digits because we're at the very early stages of it. And when you think about Accenture Cloud first, we brought together All of our services from strategy and consulting to experience to cloud, industry experience, because not only are companies having to migrate to the cloud, but they need to create value. Like we're working with an American entertainment company where we're helping them leverage the cloud to accelerate the time to market of new video services. So it's not about the migration, it's about the value. And so think about our business as having built these engines of growth, some of which already have massive scale and are continuing, and then others like Industry X. Industry X is a way that we're going to continue to diversify our revenue sources for resilience over the long term. We made two acquisitions this quarter, Assault Solutions and Myrtle, a consulting group to help build our manufacturing and supply chains. We're going to continue to invest there. We think about that as the next interactive, right, in terms of building this new area. And we're at, you know, this amazing tipping point right now where we're seeing an acceleration of digitization in manufacturing and in product engineering. And so we continue to think about how do we both make sure these growth engines are going, but never have to have another rotation because we're always investing. And I mean, the last point I would just say is our capacity to invest in acquisitions has been a huge differentiator in building the business we have today as being the core of our business is now these engines of growth. And we continue to execute on that you know, in all of our major strategic areas and the next scale plays. And, you know, I'd call out the two we made this quarter in cloud, for example, infinity works in Eden house.
spk09: Got it. Got it. And just Casey, a quick follow-up, you know, we'll travel and reimbursables. Will that, will that go up back to, to the norms of, of previous paths? I'm just trying to figure out if, if some of that, obviously, some of that travel work doesn't have to continue, and so the model slightly changes on that front.
spk08: That's a great question, Brian. So let me just first tell you what we've assumed as it relates to kind of our revenue. So, you know, we do not have in our revenue guidance an increase in travel, revenue from travel-related expenses. Now obviously we're continuing to meet with our clients and engage with them as you can see from our record bookings and our really strong revenue growth. But we don't have that significantly embedded in our revenue. In terms of for the rest of the year, we'll continue to see where we are with the travel and events and meetings. As we go through throughout the rest of the year and into next year, it's really kind of too early to tell. Julie, I don't know if you want to add anything.
spk06: Yeah, I'd agree. I mean, look, I'm having lots of conversations with companies who are just trying to figure this out, right? Will travel, you know, will it actually explode once people feel safe because they need to reconnect? Will it structurally, you know, shift? And I would say that it's really, we think it's too early and, you know, companies are really kind of all over the map and Hopefully we'll have a lot better sense as we get through the next six months and we see vaccinations, variants, and, you know, how comfortable people are. But it's still pretty unclear.
spk09: Got it. Thanks for taking the questions.
spk10: Your next question comes from the line of Dave Corning from Baird. Please go ahead.
spk02: Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks. Nice job. And I guess my first question, outsourcing growth was the strongest, I think, in six years. And that's really not on an easy comp yet either. You had a pretty normal Q2 of last year in terms of growth. And I'm wondering, is there something within outsourcing that has kind of step function changed to just a better level than normal or, you know, something happened there that's really triggering growth in such a stable part of your business typically?
spk06: Well, you know, it's a great question and this really is, a big driver of how well we're doing now because in this, when you have compressed transformation where the companies need to do so much at the same time, there's a really sharp focus on what do I need to do? How do I source the talent? Right. And that, that, that conversation has absolutely gone faster, but also the, How can I digitize every part of the organization? And what Accenture has, which is very unique, is this investment we've been making for years in the Synapse platform, for example, in operations and in technology, things like My Wizard and My Concerto, which build in best-of-class AI, machine learning, rapid testing. And these are platforms that we continuously invest in. And so what's happening here is that we're helping them digitize. We're helping them focus on what do they really need to have in-house versus can leverage in order to go faster. But one thing I want to be really, really clear about is although our strategy and consulting business continued to have a high single-digit decline, it was better than we expected, strategy and consulting is huge. absolutely essential to all of these results including outsourcing because what we're bringing to them right it's not simply oh it's a lower cost it's you know increase is in um sales through our marketing operations like the bbva example i gave right it's manufacturing uh in at aig which i talked about it's insurance right as well as deep process skills it is helping them transform the ways they're working by being integrated with us where we're bringing, you know, modern ways of working and digital. And so this is what distinguishes us as a company for our clients. It's not, you know, for you guys, it's type of work, outsourcing versus consulting, which is basically managed services as project work. For our clients, It's our ability to bring all these services together, which is why I emphasize that each of the examples I gave in my script, and I gave you many more, really are pulling all of these things together for an outcome. And when you're going through compressed transformation, that's more important than ever.
spk02: Great. Thanks. That's great. And I guess my just quick follow-up. every vertical accelerated in the quarter except for resources. And so I'm just wondering on that vertical specifically, that got a little worse, but that hits really easy comps in the back half. Anything to kind of call out there on momentum kind of re-accelerating in the future?
spk08: Yeah, thanks, Dave. So resources, it came in in the zone that we expected it to. And I'll just point out a couple things. So we've talked about the industries more impacted by the pandemic, and resources clearly has one of those, which is the energy sector. and that continued to be under pressure. And I would also say that our clients in the chemicals industry also have been feeling some pressure as well. But we've seen stability in our utilities portfolio, which is good. And, you know, go forward. As we look into Q3, we do see an improvement in the resources growth rate.
spk06: Yeah, and by the way, this is where Industry X is going to be so critical because For example, we're working with North America, one of the largest oil integrators in the world, in reimagining their plans for both health and safety, security and efficiency perspective. I was just in our brand new OT security lab in Houston last week. Yes, I actually did go on a business trip. And a big focus of OT security is across all of our both process and discrete manufacturing areas. So, you know, they're obviously, as an industry, set of industries, they've been impacted. But if you think about where we're focused and how we're going to help them from efficiency and safety and security, it's great. We're well positioned.
spk02: Great. Thanks, guys.
spk10: Your next question comes from the line of James Fawcett from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk03: Great. Thank you very much, Anne. I wanted to go back to one of the comments you made in the prepared remarks in terms of increasing your programmatic DNA. And I'm wondering if you could just give us a little color of how we should think about contribution from that, specific areas of focus, durability, et cetera, just trying to understand how you're thinking about that initiative, which seems really important.
spk08: Yes, so thanks for the question. You're absolutely right. I mean, our ability to invest significantly in our business, and that includes V&A, is a key competitive advantage. And I would just say, you know, we've been at this for a long time, to your point. It's been a core part of our strategy since 2013. On average, we've done about 20% of our operating cash flow to V&A, and that's our updated guidance of about up to at least $2 billion puts us in that same zone. But it's not just being able to acquire its successful integration. And so you can see that that typically provides about 2% of inorganic contribution. And this year, it's going to be more in the 2.5% zone. So we really are very focused on that as a key part of our strategy. And we will look to continue to invest. And as we've said, we can always We can do more than the $2 billion if the opportunity presents itself, but it is a key part of our investment portfolio.
spk03: Thanks. And just turning operationally for my follow-up question, can you give some color on how much of the strong demand that you're seeing is driven by your partner network this year and where you're seeing most strength there, and I guess how you think about that part of the business generation evolving over the next few quarters and periods?
spk06: Our ecosystem partners are absolutely essential to our growth. I called them out in our script. We're really proud to be the number one or number two partner with all of the major ecosystem partners. And what we uniquely bring is because of the strength of our relationships, we can really bring integrated value propositions to our clients. And so those relationships are very high priority and important to our future growth.
spk03: Thanks for that, Julie. Thanks, Casey.
spk05: Thank you. Operator, we have time for one more question, and then Julie will wrap up the call.
spk10: Okay. That question comes from the line of Brian Bergen from Cohen. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hi. Good morning. Thank you. Question on the outsourcing and operation strength. So you highlighted the AIG shared services deal this quarter. Have you seen a pickup in captive acquisition opportunities that you've acted upon here over the last several quarters? And I'm curious how we should think about this mix contributing to your outperformance and the pipeline going forward.
spk06: Well, we've shared in prior calls that we do see more interest in captives. We're starting to see us execute on some of them, but I think it's too early to say whether that's going to be a big part of the mix or not. For the reasons I've talked about, you know, we can go in and help digitize. Casey, do you want to add anything?
spk08: Yeah, I would just say, you know, in terms of what we see in terms of the mix, you know, for H2, we still see, you know, double-digit growth in outsourcing. And for the full year, you know, I think they'll end up at high single to low double-digit positive growth to give you some sense of the mix.
spk04: Okay, I appreciate that. And then just on H&PS and financial services, so those both clearly had outsized performance in the quarter. Can you just talk about the key contributors underlying those two?
spk08: Yes. So, you know, we were really pleased with HMPS and financial services growth this quarter. HMPS, it continues to be, you know, growth that we've seen in public service and the work that we've been doing during, you know, not just only, but clearly led by a lot of the work that we're doing within the COVID space. And in financial services, We're pleased that, you know, we do have strength in our banking capital markets, and that's a statement globally as it relates to, you know, particularly and not only in our business in Europe, but all over, including North America. So, you know, very strong performance in both of those, and we, you know, expect that to continue.
spk06: Yeah. And it's, you know, it's the things that are, it's cloud, right? It's, you know, there's big movement to cloud. It's digital experience. It's more like the example I gave in BBVA. It's, you know, it's basically all the trends that we've talked about are playing out really across industry and financial services is, you know, one of the less, more moderate impacted industries and they're investing.
spk04: Thank you very much.
spk06: Okay, great. Well, Thank you again for joining today, and thank you again to all of our incredible people around the globe. And as always, I just want to end by thanking our shareholders for your continued trust in us. May everyone stay well and healthy.
spk10: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude your conference for today. Thank you for your participation and for using AT&T Teleconference. You may now disconnect.
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