Archer-Daniels-Midland Company

Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call

4/25/2023

spk05: Good morning and welcome to the ADM first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on a listen-only mode to prevent background noise. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's call, Megan Britt, Vice President, Investor Relations for ADM. Ms. Britt, you may begin.
spk01: Thank you, Bailey. Hello and welcome to the first quarter earnings webcast for ADM. Starting tomorrow, a replay of this webcast will be available on our investor relations website. Please turn to slide two. Some of our comments and materials may constitute forward-looking statements that reflect management's current views and estimates of future economic circumstances, industry conditions, company performance, and financial results. These statements and materials are based on many assumptions and factors that are subject to risk and uncertainties. ADM has provided additional information in its reports on file with the SEC concerning assumptions and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in this presentation. To the extent permitted under applicable law, ADM assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events. On today's webcast, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Juan Luciano, will discuss our first quarter results provide ADM's perspective on the current market backdrop, and share progress highlights on our strategic priorities for the year. Our Chief Financial Officer, Vikram Luther, will review the drivers of our financial performance at the segment level and review our cash generation and capital allocation results. Juan will have some closing remarks, and then he and Vikram will take your questions. Please turn to slide three. I'll now turn the call over to Juan.
spk06: Thank you, Megan, and thanks to all those joining us for the call today. This morning, ADM reported strong first quarter adjusted earnings per share of $2.09, with an adjusted segment operating profit of $1.7 billion, and a trailing four-quarter average adjusted ROIC of 14%. Our performance demonstrates once again the advantage of ADM's uniquely integrated value chain and broad portfolio. along with the team's ability to respond nimbly to opportunities aligned to the three enduring trends of food security, health and well-being, and sustainability. All of this was achieved in a fluid economic environment where ripple effects are being felt from both inflationary and recessionary pressures, shifts in global demand and trade activity, and the ongoing war in Ukraine. Our team continues to find ways to rise above these challenges and meet our customers' needs for consistency, quality, and innovation at every turn across our business units. We have wrapped up Q1 with a strong balance sheet, healthy cash flows, and we are on track for our 2023 and long-term strategic growth plans. And we continue to pursue growth opportunities and increase shareholder returns in alignment with our disciplined capital allocation framework. This quarter, we also announced several exciting milestones in our continued growth and innovation strategy, including the opening of the world's first probiotic and postbiotic production facility in Valencia, Spain, which increases our global production capacity by a factor of five. agreements with ADM Ventures partners, Brightseed and Believer Meats to advance innovations in gut microbiome and cell-based meat, respectively, and our definitive agreement with Tallgrass to pave the way for carbon capture from ADM's Columbus, Nebraska complex, furthering our decarbonization agenda. Beyond the financial highlights of the quarter, we are proud to be named one of Fortune's most admired companies for the 15th year running, and to receive our fourth consecutive Ethisphere Award as one of the world's most ethical companies. It's an honor to be recognized externally, and it continues to demonstrate that ADM's culture and people are the engine behind our operational and financial success. As we look back on the quarter, I'd like to review it in the context of the 2023 framing we discussed in Q4's call and provide a few brief updates. Slide four, please. In January, we reviewed several factors that underpinned our confident outlook for 2023, and these same factors will continue to shape our performance throughout the year. The supply and demand situation remains fundamentally solid, with some normalization of supply alongside shifts in both the product driving demand and the origins providing supply. Supply and transportation constraints in the Black Sea region, severe drought in Argentina, the record Brazilian crop, and a resurgence of demand in China post-lockdown have allowed our team to take full advantage of our global footprint. Growth-based food demand remains resilient across key geographies, and with it we are seeing solid volumes and strong operating margins across vegetable oils, flavors, sweeteners, starches, and wheat milling. Demand for biodiesel and renewable green diesel is robust, driving continued strong growth crush margins. The strong biofuels demand and continued expectation for growth supports our investment in new crash capacity, like the additional 150,000 bushels per day from our Spiritwood North Dakota facility, scheduled to come online in time for the 2023 harvest. Nutrition's growth trajectory for the year remains on course. with a double-digit increase in our human nutrition pipeline compared to this point in 2022. As noted, we expect this growth to be significantly weighted to the back half of the year as we manage through some destocking impacts in beverage, lower margins in amino acids, and the broader demand fulfillment challenges we discussed in the last quarter. It's important to recognize that our team delivered strong Q1 results despite constantly evolving microeconomic conditions. ADM's ability to remain agile and apply the principles of productivity and innovation continues to position us well in a dynamic external environment. Let me take a moment to dig deeper into examples of how we are applying our productivity playbook across the organization and how decarbonization is helping us find paths for both innovation and growth. Slide five, please. From a productivity perspective, we have continued to focus attention on automation within many of our key operations facilities. Automation not only accelerates the modernization of our manufacturing footprint, it is helping us deliver significant savings at the enterprise level. Whether we are reducing chemicals usage, delivering yield improvements, or supporting operational reliability, Our automation program now has a plan to scale cost improvements across our most critical operational assets over the next several years. Eight of our plans are currently underway, and we expect that most of these will complete their automation implementation by year-end. And we're seeing operational and financial impacts immediately following implementation. Our most recent implementation in Cedar Rapids is already generating millions of dollars in efficiencies in just the first few months, confirming the double-digit returns we expect to see from this project. As a whole, the impact on operating profit is significant, with a target run rate of approximately $200 million per year when implementations are complete, at more than 70 facilities over the next seven years. This is only one example of productivity measures we're undertaking to ensure ADM maintains agility given the levels of uncertainty in the external environment. Each of our businesses and functions is identifying opportunities to drive efficiency at scale while maintaining a focus on growth. Our decarbonization journey continues to move at a rapid pace and is allowing us to showcase innovation in action. Our advantaged position in alternative fuels production has prepared us for the demand cycle that continues to rise across biodiesel and renewable diesel. We continue to explore strategic options to convert ethanol into sustainable aviation fuel. The multi-billion dollar addressable opportunity represented by SAF alone highlights the criticality of access to low carbon feedstocks at a scale exponentially higher than what is available today. This is why we are prioritizing the decarbonization of our Decatur complex as the first critical step in unlocking significant value. Last year, we announced one of the world's First, ultra-low emissions power plants would be built adjacent to our Decatur processing complex, supplying ADM with low-emission steam and electricity. This leverages our world-class facility that has been successfully sequestered in CO2 for more than a decade. ADM is a pioneer in carbon capture and sequestration, and we are extending that expertise with a plan to triple the number of CCS wells in the Decatur area and sequester up to 7 million metric tons of CO2 per year. This positions ADM as a clear leader in the ability to supply customers with low carbon feedstocks and accelerate the decarbonization of their own value chains. And we think this is just the beginning. I'll speak more about how we are defining that next phase as we wrap up. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Vikram to talk about our business performance. Vikram?
spk10: Thank you, Juan. Please turn to slide six. The Ag Services and Oilseeds team had an outstanding start to 2023 with significantly higher year-over-year results in Q1. Ag Services results were much higher than the first quarter of 2022. In South American origination, excellent risk management and higher export demand Due to the record, Brazilian soybean crop drove significantly higher year-over-year results. In North America, origination results were also higher, driven by stronger soybean exports. In global trade, solid margins and efficient execution led to strong results. Crushing results were in line with the first quarter last year. In North America, the team executed well, capitalizing on historically strong soybean and soft seed crush margins, that was supported by robust demand for renewable fuels. In EMEA, crush margins were lower year over year as trade flows adjusted from the dislocations caused last year by the war in Ukraine. Additionally, there were approximately $240 million of positive timing effects during the quarter, which included both expected reversals of prior timing losses as we executed the business, as well as a positive impact of about $100 million pulled forward from future periods as crush margins declined at the end of the quarter. Refined products and other results were substantially higher than the prior year period. North America biodiesel results were higher with record volumes and strong margins supported by favorable blend economics and tight diesel stocks. In EMEA, domestic demand for food oil and export demand for biodiesel drove strong margins. Equity earnings from Wilmar were lower versus the first quarter of 2022. Looking ahead for the second quarter, we expect RPO to continue its strong performance. Crushing is expected to be strong, but lower than the prior year based on current crush margins. We do not expect last year's significant volatility that impacted energy and grain trade flows to re-occur in ag services. Slide seven, please. Carbohydrate solutions delivered solid results in Q1, though lower than the very strong first quarter of the prior year. The starches and sweeteners subsegment capitalized on solid demand in the quarter. North America's starches and sweeteners delivered strong volumes and margins. Ethanol margins pressured by high industry stock levels were down relative to the same quarter last year. In EMEA, the team effectively managed margins in a dynamic operating environment to deliver improved results. The global wheat milling business posted much higher margins driven by robust customer demand. BioSolutions continued on its strong growth trajectory with revenues increasing by over 20% year over year. Vantage corn processors results were significantly lower due to weaker ethanol margins. Looking ahead for the second quarter, we expect resilient demand and strong margins for our starches and sweeteners products. Ethanol margins, while improving, are expected to remain below last year. Of note, we also recognize a $50 million benefit from a biofuel producer tax credit in the prior year quarter that will not repeat. On slide eight, Nutrition results were significantly lower year over year versus the record prior year quarter. Human nutrition results were in line with the first quarter of 2022, as the business continued to manage demand fulfillment challenges and destocking in certain categories. Flavors results were slightly lower than the prior year, as strong results in EMEA were offset by lower results in North America. Specialty ingredients results were higher year over year, driven by healthy margins. Health and wellness was lower year over year. In animal nutrition, results were significantly lower compared to the same quarter last year, primarily due to much lower margins in amino acids. The animal nutrition business, excluding PET, is expected to face challenging demand conditions over the course of the year, and we are taking actions to mitigate the impact. These actions include targeted cost reductions, refining our go-to-market strategy with a more customer-centric approach, optimizing our production footprint, particularly in EMEA, and refocusing resources on our strongest growth categories. Looking ahead for the second quarter, we expect year-over-year profit growth at human nutrition, while animal nutrition will still be lapping the higher amino acid margins from the prior year. For the full year, we expect to achieve 10% plus constant currency operating profit growth in nutrition, led by human nutrition. And with continued recovery in demand fulfillment and reduced destocking effects, we remain optimistic about our human nutrition sales pipeline and growth opportunities. As we noted before, operating profit growth will be heavily weighted to the second half of the year. Slide nine, please. Other business results were significantly higher than the prior year quarter due to improved ADM Investor Services earnings on higher interest income. Captive insurance results were in line with the prior year. In corporate, unallocated corporate costs of $248 million were higher year over year due primarily to higher financing and centers of excellence costs. Other corporate was unfavorable versus the prior year due to the absence of an ADM Ventures investment revaluation gain, partially offset by higher contributions from foreign currency hedges. We still project corporate costs to be approximately $1.5 billion for the year. Net interest expense for the quarter increased $27 million year over year, due primarily to higher short-term interest rates. The effective tax rate for the first quarter of 2023 was approximately 16%, in line with the prior year. For the full year, we still expect our effective tax rate to be between 16 and 19%. Next slide, please. In the first quarter, we had strong operating cash flows before working capital of $1.3 billion. We allocated $325 million to capital expenditures, as well as returned $600 million to shareholders through share repurchases and dividends. We continue to have ample liquidity. with nearly $10 billion of cash and available credit, and our adjusted net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of 1.2 is well below our 2.5 threshold. Our strong balance sheet and single A credit rating provide a stable financial footing for ADM to pursue our strategic growth initiatives while also returning capital to shareholders. In 2023, we still anticipate $1.3 billion of capital expenditures and $1 billion of opportunistic buybacks subject to other strategic uses of capital. Juan?
spk06: Thank you, Vikram. Before we wrap up today, I wanted to share some insights into how we're thinking about the remainder of 2023 and how we are positioning the company to take on the next phase of opportunities. We are confident that ADM will be able to deliver on our plans for 2023, despite some pockets of soft demand. Supply and demand shifts are allowing ADM to flex our integrated value chain in support of another strong year of results. We continue to advance partnership agreements with major players across multiple industries. from regenerative agriculture to alternative proteins to sustainable fuels to plant-based industrial and personal care products. All of these partnerships are supporting ADM as we evolve at pace with the external environment to capture new growth opportunities. We see accelerated upsides emerging from product areas like biosolutions, expected to grow at double-digit rates again this year. We have significant production capacity coming online within the year across our three businesses to support continued demand growth. And we're driving forward the broad-based decarbonization agenda in our Decatur complex, which is unlocking both near-term and long-range value for our customers across multiple industries. With the combination of solid business performance in the core business, along with strong growth opportunities across our value chain, we expect that we will be able to deliver between $6 to $7 in earnings per share in 2023. And based on the strength of our balance sheet and cash position, we continue to pursue opportunities to deliver both near-term value to shareholders while positioning ADM for its next phase of growth. We're anticipating an in-depth review of the opportunities we see and the path ahead with the investment community in the fourth quarter. We'll share more details on this event in the coming months. Thank you for your time today. Vikram and I look forward to answering any questions you may have. With that, Bailey, please open the line for questions.
spk05: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, please press star followed by one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question, and please do remember to unmute locally. Our first question today comes from the line of Tom Palmer from JP Morgan. Please go ahead, Tom. Your line is now open.
spk04: Good morning, and thank you for the question. Morning, Doug. I wanted to ask on Maybe ask how you're thinking about earnings cadence this year in the crushing sub-segment. So your earnings presentation notes soybean crush margins have dipped lately in several regions of the world. But we also can see, right, the U.S. futures curve points to stronger margins in the second half of the year. So maybe just should we be looking at the second quarter coming in below the first quarter and then a potential bounce for the second half of the year? Or is the second quarter perhaps looking a bit better for you than industry curves might suggest?
spk06: I think you're right in your assessment that maybe second quarter will come a little bit lower and then crash margins will rise for the second part of the year. In the coming quarter, crash is expected to remain strong, but lower than the prior year period, as you said. based on current crash margins, as well as impacts from market to market that pull profits into Q1. Remember those 100 million that Vikram mentioned before. Soy margins will remain solid, but again, lower probably than the prior year, while canola crash margins look to be improved in the upside. If you think about the whole year, crash is positioned for another extremely strong year in 2023. the fundamentals of the business remain strong and the structural changes are driving increased demand for both vegetable oil and meal. In 2022, remember, Tom, we have significant dislocations around the world. Likewise, 2023 will be influenced by any new dislocations which may or may not happen. Remember that While Argentina and South America is crushing hard now, Argentina will probably run out of beans given their small crop later in the year. And at that point in time, certainly the market will have to cover for that lack of meal being exported from Argentina. We think that's where the U.S. crush margins will pick up and that's what the curves are showing. So I think with record world soybean production, we expect soybean milk will gain in the inclusions in global feed rations. And we're going to have also on our own side, we're going to have a spirit wood coming in at the end of Q3. And also we're going to have Paraguay coming back online at that point and Ukraine also. So when you think about these operational improvements and higher refining volumes and strong refining margins, We are due for a very, very strong year in XR visits and all seats in 2023. Bailey, any other questions?
spk05: Hello? Hi, thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Adam Samuelson from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk11: Yes, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Morning to you, Adam. Hi. I was hoping to talk a little bit more on nutrition and maybe get a little bit more color on kind of the confidence of the recovery and profits as you see it through the year. It sounds like that's pretty heavily skewed towards the human side and I guess I'm just trying to make sure I understand kind of how much of that is a function of the comps getting easy and lapping some of the price cost and supply chain challenges late last year, actual market growth, benefits from some of the new capacity and the volume that you can bring to bear, and then as well help us think about on the animal side kind of the growth in pet versus the pressures you're seeing on the amino acids and some of the legacy Neovia businesses.
spk10: Yeah, Adam. So this is no different from what we signaled in the Q4 call. We have clearly indicated that the first half for nutrition is going to be weak and the strength is going to come in the second half. So let's break it down in human nutrition. As we mentioned, we've got a strong pipeline and actually customers are looking for more and more innovation and that plays to our strengths. given our broad capabilities and our suite of ingredients. So we see a very robust pipeline, double digit increase in pipeline and increasing win rates. So that's point number one. Point number two is that these talking effects should neutralize. We expect inventory levels to come back to regular levels. And then the third is also you relate the demand fulfillment challenges, which we experienced mainly in the back half of last year. We're working through that when you expect most of the issues to be resolved in the second half of this year. So a combination of a very strong pipeline. Let's be stalking as well as less demand fulfillment challenges gives us confidence for back half loaded growth and human nutrition. We'll still have growth in the 2nd quarter. We expect maybe. mid single digit growth in the second quarter so you can see the progress roughly flat in q1 mid single digit growth in q2 and the back half should be significantly higher versus the back half of last year which was challenged by demand fulfillment then on animal nutrition on the pet side we still have double digit growth in pipeline so we see that category continue to be strong if you remember we signal demand fulfillment challenges also in pets We expect also that to be addressed over the course of this year, mainly in the second half. We're expecting some new capacity also to come online in the second half for PET. So we feel pretty good about PET. On the animal nutrition side, that's been challenged because we had significant contribution from amino acids in Q1, Q2, and also Q3 of last year. So we are lapping those margins. So it's going to take time, and that's why it's going to be back half loaded. We also see weakness generally in feed demand as feed customers are looking at reformulation and consumers are going from higher value protein to lower value protein. But we are taking actions. While volume is anticipated to be flat to slightly lower, we are working to improve margins by very, very targeted cost actions and as well as go-to-market actions that I referenced. So we feel good about the back half on animal nutrition from a turnaround perspective. So that's the reason why nutrition is shaping up to be a second half story for the reasons I cited, but we feel strong and good about the 10% plus constant currency OP growth in nutrition for 2023.
spk05: The next question today comes from the line of Ben Theura from Barclays. Please go ahead, Ben. Your line is now open.
spk02: Perfect. Thank you very much. And Vikram, Juan, congrats on the results. Thank you, Ben. So my question is just coming back a little bit to the ag service and all seeds business. And I wanted to dig in a little more detail if you could share your outlook as it relates to the service piece of the equation, which obviously has been a very strong performer, and we continue to see the global disruption, but you're seeing signs of improvements. I just want to understand how you feel about the renewal of the Russia-Ukraine grain deal, but also in context with everything that's shaping up in the world, the demand versus the supply side, and where you see buckets of opportunity, maybe some market share gains, and what are the risks? particularly to your current outlook. Thank you.
spk06: Yeah. Thank you, Ben. A full question there. So, listen, ACT Services delivered another very, very strong quarter this year. You know, it was strong in South America. It was strong in North America. It was strong at the global trade through all our destination marketing facilities. When you look at the Q2, of course, in Q1, we were able to export a little bit more than maybe Brazil couldn't do it because of some of the rains and the delays. We think that in Q2, Brazil will probably take over being the large crop that they have and the cheapest origin. Destination marketing was still holding margins there. It is an important activity around the world. You described the risks associated. When we think about the year, the year hinges a lot in the recovery of demand in China post lockdowns. The ups and downs of the crops around the world, we still have to deal with an Argentine disaster in terms of crops and with the Brazil that has a very strong crop. that is creating changes in the trade flows. So all of a sudden, you know, we are sending beans from the US to Europe to transform into biodiesel and bringing the biodiesel back. But also Brazil is sending beans to Argentina. Brazil is maybe sending a little bit of boats of beans here. So there is a lot of changes in that. And that, you know, ADM normally takes advantage of our huge footprint. And normally our footprint and our ability to execute on those trade flows become an advantage. So you're going to see that in our services around the year. I said there are two pivoting things this year. One is, again, China demand coming out of lockdown. The second is the ability of Ukraine to continue to export as we have been doing since August last year. Of course, the corridor has been renewed. As ADN, we will always do our best to make sure that that continues as an export source for the Ukrainians. Remember that that part of the world owns 25% of all the black rich soil in the world, so it's a very important condition, a very important production area. So the corridor has been renewed. But of course, there are differences between Ukrainians view and Russian views at this point in time. And unfortunately, we have seen over the last weeks inspection of vessels being reduced to maybe a few days per week. So so we remain hopeful and we remain ready to help to do this. I think that what we need to think fundamentally, the corridor is all about the availability of bringing that production. What I worry – or the accessibility, better said – what I worry is about the availability of the crop. This prolonged conflict is hurting the Ukrainian farmers and it's hurting the Russian farmers. Both are dealing with issues. And I think that the expectation should be the conflict not resolved for production out of this area to come lower over the coming years, regardless of the export corridor. I think, again, short-term and accessibility issue, long-term or medium-term, I worry more about availability and creating pockets of tension again.
spk05: Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Andrew Strelzyk from BMO Capital Markets. Andrew, please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk12: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. My first one is on the refined products segment, which came in much, much stronger than we anticipated. And when I look at the dynamics that you called out on biodiesel and some of the other things, it seems like a lot of those are still very much in place. Is it possible that that is a more sustainable, you know, I guess not run rate, but more achievable again in the second quarter? Are there things that have changed that would prevent that from happening?
spk06: Yeah. I think we feel pretty good that we will execute very well in this segment and probably exceed last year's performance. We have good visibility given the book that we have. So demand continues to be there, strong, and we continue to execute well. We see the margins and they continue to be there with us. So there has been some comments about maybe a slower ramp up of some facilities. It's very difficult to predict the ramp up of specific facilities, but when you look at all the data, you see all that material coming. Soybean oil will continue to be a key feedstock for this. It's impossible to develop all this industry without the participation of soybean oil. Now we have a path for canola oil to get to that source. U.S. biodiesel production was up 8% in Q1. Renewable diesel production was up like 61% versus the previous year. We continue to flex our system to be able to bring biodiesel from Europe to benefit the U.S. industry. And as I said before, we expect a year that will be better than last year. And given the forward book that we have, we have visibility into that. So we feel very confident about this, Andrew.
spk05: Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Ben Bienvenu from Stevens. Please go ahead, Ben. Your line is now open.
spk13: Hey, thank you so much for taking the question. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Ben. I want to ask about the starches and sweeteners business. You called out strong core results, good volumes, and good margins. Obviously, the segment was weighed on by weaker ethanol results. Could you talk a little bit about the overall backdrop that you're seeing for the balance of the year? And would operating profit have been up in the first quarter, excluding the headwinds from ethanol?
spk10: Well, so on starches and sweeteners, you're right. Let's break it down. The liquid sweetener part of the portfolio, we see resilient demand and strong margins, given the good contracting we had last year. And we also see increased volumes from Mexico, which helps the business. The other thing that should help over the course of the year is higher sugar prices. While you know we don't have a lot of spot business, but to the extent we do, that should be supportive of margins in the liquid sweetener side of the portfolio. The specialty side, we're seeing strong margins, but some softness in the volumes. That's also part of sweeters and starches. In the bio solutions, when you think about the mix of the portfolio, we are moving more and more towards the bio solutions business. And that's had very strong performance consistently over the last few years. And again, in Q1 with 20 plus percent growth in revenue and anticipated to continue at that clip for the course of this year. So at a high level, sweeters and starches, Good volumes and robust margins. So it should give us confidence that we'll have a very good year again in 2023. Now, with respect to ethanol, that remains the most volatile part of our portfolio. Q1 was soft. We think Q2 is going to be a little better, although lower than Q2 of last year. We had the biofuel tax credit, which we referenced, which we will not repeat. But we also see some green shoots on the ethanol side. We are more constructive about the outlook of ethanol for the rest of the year. Why? For a few reasons. One is we see ethanol stock levels coming off their peaks from earlier in Q1. Two, we continue to see good export demand. Think about what's happening even in Japan and India. So our export demand should be in the 1.2, 1.4 billion gallons, which is consistent with what we saw last year. We also see higher blending rates. I think blend rates have trended slightly up. Gasoline demand continues to be strong, given the strong blend economics. So in short, while we think ethanol will likely be lower from an absolute margin perspective versus last year, we're still constructive generally for the rest of the year. So overall, we see a pretty strong year for carbohydrates solutions business.
spk05: Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Eric Larson from Seaport Global Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk03: Yeah, good morning, everybody, and congratulations on a good quarter. Thank you, Eric. Good morning. So this probably comes – I can't remember the last time I actually asked an ethanol question, but one of my questions today is on ethanol. the the outlook you know going into 24 actually looks better because we now have uh we now have uh you know you're potentially hopefully uh year-end or year-round e15 blending which um i know it's a disappointment it's in 24 not 20 starting in 23 but You know, that could consume another one and a half or two billion bushels of corn. You know, so I'll look for ethanol, you know, this year. I appreciate Vikram's comments, but wouldn't you expect maybe that your demand would be better starting in 24 and now you'll have some confidence that the retailers can put infrastructure in to put the pumps in? for E15, so is that too optimistic on my part?
spk06: Yeah, Eric, let me take you a little bit higher because the gyrations of ethanol up and down sometimes get confusing, but, you know, we invest for the long term here. So fundamentally, if you think about the last IPPC report, It strongly argues that it's going to be difficult for humanity to stay in the one and a half degree hitting that we should try to achieve based on the Paris Agreement. If you think about that, then adaptation is what all companies and all governments are thinking about. Biofuels and bioproducts like biomaterials or biosolutions are a key part of that adaptation. whether it's ethanol, whether it's ethanol getting in the pathway to SAF, whether it's renewable green diesel, whether it's biodiesel, that's going to be a big part of the future. And ADM's strong position in that and competitive advantage will shine through. We see the same thing as we position ourselves for biosolutions or biomaterials. Again, this is just You're going to see governments, you're going to see companies, you're going to see everybody having to work together to achieve this energy transition, if you will, and to be able to keep climate change to a level that is manageable. But you have to think biofuels will be an important part of the future. U.S. will be a key player in biofuel, and ADM will be absolutely in a strong position to deliver on that. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Manav Gupta from UBS. Please go ahead, Manav, your line is now open.
spk09: Quick question, guys. Help us understand just a little bit what caused the crush margins to come in so sharply. We entered this year thinking a lot of new RD capacity will start up and soybean prices will actually move up. They've actually moved down. Was it like too much pre-buying happening in 4Q? What caused this pullback in soybean oil prices? And then vegetables, as we look at the vegetable oil prices, refined product prices are still at a significant premium to unrefined, which technically benefits you a lot. So your outlook for the spread between refined and unrefined vegetable oil. Thank you.
spk10: Yeah, so on the crush margins, as Juan noted, Clearly, as you can also see in the curve right now, Q2 looks soft. And the reason is because of the expectation of certain delay in renewable green diesel capacity. Just to be clear, we remain confident that renewable green diesel capacity is going to increase by about a billion gallons in 2023. The timeline has just been pushed back to the second half of this year. So therefore, you see a little bit of softness in the nearby as a consequence of that. The other aspect is also related to what's happening in Argentina. In Argentina, there's more beans given what's happened with the soy dollar for at least part of Q2. There's more crush capacity, if you may, that's coming online. And that's also helping reduce a little bit of the nearby crush. What's going to happen in Argentina by May or June timeframe, they're going to run out of beans. So that export is not going to be available. So that should be supportive of crush margins. beyond Q2 and that's why you see the slight inverse in the curve in the nearby and then recovering in the back half of the year. So that's really all that happened. It was transitory, nothing that is more than that is the delay in renewable green diesel capacity as well as what's happening in Argentina. Thank you.
spk05: The next question today comes from the line of Stephen Haynes from Morgan Stanley. Stephen, please go ahead. Your line is now open.
spk14: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the carbon capture discussion earlier in the call and the plans to kind of triple, you know, the well capacity. Do you know kind of a timeline for when that might be completed and how much capital you're going to be putting behind that initiative?
spk06: Yes. At the moment, we operate one well. We're going to activate a second well and then bring five new wells. Each well, from a capital perspective, is not a big burden. It's something about $15 to $20 million per well, depending on the cost of metals and all that. We probably are in the high end of $20 million, in the low end of something like $12 to $15 million. The timeline, every time we need to have a well finished, is about three months. So it's relatively quickly. The issue is you need to go through regulatory approvals. And that's where we are working. Our government affairs team is working heavily with the indicator area and with some of the farmers in the area. So again, it could happen relatively quickly, probably within the next couple of years, if you will. Not a big burden from a capital perspective, but will significantly increase our ability to pump CO2 underground. As I said, if today we have about a million tons, give or take, per year, this will take us to seven million. And it will be a significant boost to the decarbonization of Decatur, and Decatur becoming a true supplier of low carbon intensity feedstocks for many industries.
spk05: Thank you. The next question today comes from the line of Ben Callow from Baird. Please go ahead, Ben. Your line is now open.
spk07: Hey, thank you guys for taking my question. Um, maybe can we touch just going back to renewable diesel and crush capacity coming online? Could you just remind us about the North Dakota facility? And if there's off takes there, or if we potentially get to a position when it comes online for the 23 harvest, where you're going to have, you know, excess. crush capacity out there with others coming online and if there's further delays. And then maybe could you touch on just RVO and any kind of expectations around timing there and thoughts around if anything would be revised. Thank you, guys. All right. Thank you, Ben. Thank you for the question.
spk06: Yeah, as you said, coming along with the development of the industry, ADM wants to be present bringing crush capacity. We're doing that, as you know, in a partnership with an oil company. So they have the ability to move that product to make it into the fuel market. We have the responsibility to move, of course, the meal for which we've been working on. The plant is coming, thankfully, on time and on schedule to be with us by the harvest. So about the Q3, as I said in my remarks, 150,000 tons, 1,000 bushels per day of crush capacity. We look at the industry, I always mention, or I mentioned before that we look at this plant and project for two years to make sure that capacity was coming on the stream prudently. We see now the industry, we see all the capacity that is coming. It's all needed to be able to supply this. I think the renewable diesel industry is still going to have an issue how to get feedstock for that. So that will be the issue for a while. I think that will make U.S. meal very competitive in the world markets and the U.S. is planning to take share. We are part of that plan as well. So we feel comfortable about the cadence at which the plans are coming. Maybe some of our renewable diesel plants are coming a little bit slower than expected. You know, every project has its issues. Thankfully, ours is not delayed. But if others are, I think it's going to facilitate a little bit the digestion of all this capacity that is coming, because we need to get the feedstock for that. I think Vikram will cover the second part of your question on RBOs.
spk10: Yeah. As you know, Ben, in December, the RBO proposal that came out was largely constructive for the biofuels industry, and we appreciated the multi-year proposal as well as the strong support for conventional ethanol. We, however, did note in our testimony and written comments to the EPA the opportunity for improvement in the advanced category of biomass-based diesel. And it's important to note that does not in any way change our assessment of the strong renewable diesel capacity growth this year and beyond. And, you know, this is going to come out in June. We expect that the EPA is going to consider the feedback they've got from the industry. And we are constructive about what that outlook is going to look like. But nevertheless, we are confident about the growth of the renewable diesel capacity and the ongoing benefit and impact for crush margins going forward.
spk05: Thank you. Your final question today comes from the line of Salvador Tiano from Bank of America. Please go ahead, Salvador. Your line is now open.
spk08: Yes, thank you very much. I want to go back to the ag service segment and understand a couple of things. So firstly, when I go back to the transcript last quarter, your initial expectations were for earnings to be down versus last year, if I remember correctly, and instead they were up 35%. You mentioned a lot of dislocations, but I just want to understand what actually differed versus your January expectations, firstly, for Q1. And secondly, you made the comment that Q2 earnings for ag services will be lower year on year. And I think that's pretty much what everybody expected, given the situation with Ukraine last year. I just want to frame it a little bit with regard to Q1, where you made 350 million profit. How do you expect Q2 ag services to be versus Q1? And especially given that Brazil is still selling, you know, farmers have still sold far less soybeans than last year. Does this mean that you can see a very big boost in Q2 from these trade flows? Thank you very much.
spk06: Thank you Salvador for the question. So, as you said, Arc Services has a very, very good first quarter. This team continues to deliver and outperform sometimes on our own expectations. If you think about global trade and all the issues around the world sometimes are difficult to estimate, if you will, but our team with their ability to to connect, if you will, origins with destinations, and especially with the investment that we have made over the years on destination marketing, allow us to capture more volume at higher margins than maybe in the past. They have had also a very disciplined risk management and very effective one, which we expect from them, but sometimes it's not that easy to deliver in this volatile world. Great execution in Australia, great execution on the Black Sea Origination Program, And again, solid margins at destination. South America were probably another bright point for us. They capture higher volumes and margins. We were very well positioned on a crop that was very large and on a farmer that was undersold. So we position ourselves properly and we get the rewards from that. And North America benefited from strong risk management and strong bean export programs. Again, Brazil was a little bit delay with some of the rains and all that in terms of their harvest. So the U.S. extended the window a little bit more. Now, Brazil, we think, if you think about second quarter and why we're predicting it to be a little bit lower, is we're not going to have, if you think about second quarter last year, the same volatility that we have because of Ukraine at that point in time. And the war was starting and the world was a little bit stand on what do we do now. Now we know what do we do. We have channels to export. The product is flowing for the most part. As I warned in my previous question, I think we're more worried about the productivity of the farmers of Ukraine and Russia eventually later on. But I think for this year we have the ability to export that. We expect robust North American corn export until Brazil second corn crop is available. And then I think that, you know, North America will lap until, you know, Brazil run out of corn. So we have lower North American soy exports expected in the second quarter because Brazil will take that place. So it's a little bit this shift, if you will. And the degrees of that shift, to be honest, Salvador, sometimes are marked by the logistics issues. Brazil has a large corn crop and soybean crop, and it needs to be able to move that to the ports and being able to ship it. And then you have the Ukraine issue we discussed before. So those are the puts and takes. In general, as I said, the unit is performing very well, performed exceptionally well in the first quarter. We expect them to perform stronger in the second quarter, but maybe not as strong as the second quarter last year. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session, so I'd like to pass the conference over to Megan Britt for closing remarks.
spk01: Thank you for joining us today. Please feel free to follow up with me if you have any additional questions. Have a good day, and thanks for your time and interest in ADM.
spk05: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.
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