This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.
spk02: Good morning and welcome to the Allegiant second quarter 2021 earnings call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star then zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please ask one question and one follow-up. And after that, you're welcome to enter the queue. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tom Martineau. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thank you, Andrew. Good morning. Welcome and thank you for joining us for Allegiant's second quarter 2021 earnings call. With me today are Dave Petratis, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Patrick Shannon, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Allegiant. Our earnings release, which was issued earlier this morning, and the presentation, which we will refer to in today's call, are available on our website at investor.allegiant.com. This call will be recorded and archived on our website. Please go to slides two and three. Statements made in today's call that are not historical facts are considered forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities law. Please see our most recent SEC filings for description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from our projections. The company assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Today's presentation and commentary include non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the reconciliation in the financial tables of our press release for further details. Dave and Patrick will now discuss our second quarter 2021 results, which will be followed by a Q&A session. Please, for the Q&A, we would like to ask each caller to limit themselves to one question and one short follow-up, and then re-enter the queue. We would like to give everyone an opportunity, given the time allotted. Please go to slide four, and I'll turn the call over to Dave.
spk06: Thanks, Tom. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Allegiant delivered a very strong quarter, and I would like to thank the employees of Allegiant for their contributions and efforts. Our employees are the greatest strength of Allegiant. Their dedication to safety and customer excellence is outstanding, and our teams have moved quickly to adapt to opportunities in a dynamic market. Before I jump into the financials, I want to give you a high-level update on recovery trends and the business overall. The pandemic has changed our world and created volatility throughout the last 18 months, both in terms of the economic contraction last year and the current economic rebound we are seeing. Starting in Q1 and accelerating in Q2, demand surged faster and stronger than expected. This is a positive sign and provides confidence in the sustainable economic recovery. In fact, Allegiant is already returning to pre-pandemic demand levels. At the same time, the robust demand is constraining the global supply chain's ability to fully meet the pull for labor and materials, especially electronic components. Allegiant has built a record non-residential backlog in 2021, which is a healthy sign of strong demand. And we believe Allegiant will be well positioned for the remainder of this year and for 2022. And another positive sign of recovery are America's electronics grew more than 20% in the second quarter. There was strong demand for electronic residential products. and in the non-residential retrofit, repair, and small project opportunities. Allegiant is not immune to inflation and the supply chain constraints impacting industrial markets. Allegiant navigated well during Q2, but these industry-wide constraints will persist for the remainder of the year and put pressure on margins for the short term. We will leverage the strength of our supply chain management capabilities as well as price to mitigate these impacts. During the pandemic, we were also able to restructure the business and make it leaner while keeping our front-facing and strategic investments. Allegiant is stronger exiting the pandemic than when we entered it. Now let's turn to the second quarter of performance for more details. Please go to slide five. I'm pleased with the company's second quarter results. We delivered strong performance in all areas. Revenue for the second quarter was $746.9 million, an increase of 26.7% or 23.8% organically. The organic revenue increase was driven by the favorable comparable created by last year's shutdowns, solid price realization from the price increase announced earlier this year, and the increased market demand, which returned to pre-pandemic levels. Currency tailwinds provided a boost to total revenue and more than offset the impact of divestitures. Adjusted operating margin increased by 70 basis points in the second quarter. The restructuring and cost management actions taken during 2020, along with volume leverage, have offset the accelerated inflation. We are also seeing costs creep back from reductions experienced last year during the pandemic. Mix is also a margin headwind due to our strong residential growth. Adjusted earnings per share of $1.32 increased 40 cents or 43.5% versus the prior year. The increase was driven largely by the expanded operating income, with some benefits also coming from a favorable tax rate and share count. Year-to-date available cash flow came in at $249.6 million, an increase of $146 million versus the prior year. The increased cash flow was driven by higher net earnings, along with improvements in networking capital and reduced capital expenditures. Please go to slide six. Last quarter, I shared with you Allegiant's build, borrow, buy approach to accelerating seamless access. Today, I want to briefly focus on the borrow innovation engine and our strategic pillar to be the partner of choice. Allegiant participates in recognized, secure, industry-leading platforms. We expand our reach through strategic relationships with recognized experts and tech innovators. And we leverage open standards. By doing this, we not only set up Allegiant as the partner of choice and a continued leader in the IoT marketplace, we also ensure Allegiant has its choice of strategic partners as well. Allegiant has a growing breadth of strategic partners. Megatex, software and product integrators, our venture portfolio, and technology alliance and industry consortiums. We are executing on our partnership strategic pillar, and here are a few recent examples. Allegiant was showcased at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference. We are expanding our innovation with Apple in both the residential and commercial marketplaces. In the smart home space, Schlage will soon be growing its connected portfolio with a new device that allows people to easily and securely unlock their doors with just a tap using home keys for the iPhone or the Apple Watch. At the same time, we are extending our work with student ID in the Apple Wallet to offer more access control options to universities and colleges, enterprises, and their students plus employees. Allegiant renewed our engagement with the Matter Workgroup, a mega tech consortium. Through this partnership, we're working to establish a secure connectivity standard for the future of the smart home that will ultimately allow more seamless connections between more IoT devices. We announced Allegiant Venture Investments in both MinHouse and MAPT, Two startups driving new value in a post-COVID world through revolutionary experiences and technology. And we completed a brand new cloud-to-cloud integration with OpenPath, leveraging our engaged technology and Schlage NDE and the LE mobile-enabled smart locks. Through these partnerships, we're investing in promising innovation. We're leveraging developer-friendly APIs and open standards. Allegiant is building strategic, commercial, and technical relationships. We are collaborating with recognized experts who also understand and embrace how Allegiant creates value by securing people and assets with seamless access wherever they reside, work, and thrive. Patrick will now take you through the financial results, and I'll be back to discuss our revised 21 outlook and to wrap up.
spk07: Thanks, Dave, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining today's call. Please go to slide number seven. This slide reflects our earnings per share reconciliation for the second quarter. For the second quarter 2020, reported earnings per share was 80 cents. Adjusting 12 cents for charges related to restructuring expenses, the 2020 adjusted earnings per share was 92 cents. Operational results increased earnings per share by 36 cents, driven by volume leverage, along with continued benefits from cost control measures and restructuring actions taken in 2020. Unfavorable price and currency also contributed to the increase. The combination of these items offset headwinds from inflation, bounce-back variable costs related to reduced volume from the COVID-19 pandemic, and unfavorable mix. Favorable tax rate drove a 6-cent increase in earnings per share. Divestitures had a positive 1-cent per share impact and offset the impact of other income and interest expense. Investment spend increased during the quarter and reduced earnings per share by 5 cents. As a reminder, the incremental investment spend is predominantly related to R&D, technology, and market investments to accelerate future growth. This results in adjusted second quarter 2021 earnings per share of $1.32, an increase of 40 cents or 43.5% compared to the prior year. Lastly, we had a one cent per share reduction related to restructuring charges and acquisition and integration expenses. After giving effect to these items, you arrive at the second quarter 2021 reported earnings per share of $1.31. Please go to slide number eight. This slide depicts the components of our revenue performance for the second quarter. I'll focus on the total Allegiant results and cover the regions on their respective slides. As indicated, we experienced organic revenue growth of 23.8 percent in the second quarter as higher demand and a favorable comparable drove significant volume increases versus the prior year. We also experienced solid price performance coming in over 2 percent, which is up sequentially. Currency continued to be a tailwind to total growth and more than offset the impact of divestitures. In total, reported revenue came in at 26.7% growth. Please go to slide number nine. Second quarter revenues for the Allegiant Americas segment were $549.4 million, up 23.7% on a reported basis and 22.9% organically. While the strong growth reflects the impact of COVID-related shutdowns last year, it is also the result of accelerated market demand. The region continued to deliver good price realization. On volume, America's non-residential experienced high single-digit growth driven by retrofit, repair, and small projects. America's residential was outstanding again, experiencing growth of more than 70%. The significant growth from the prior year was primarily due to facility closures in 2020. However, we continue to see strength in retail point of sale and new home construction. Electronics revenue was up high 20%. We experienced electronics growth in both the non-residential and residential businesses. Electronics and touchless solutions will continue to be long-term growth drivers. The accelerated demand, coupled with labor and parts shortages, especially in electronic components, is resulting in elevated backlogs as we enter the third quarter, particularly in non-residential. The timing of when we see the revenue could shift as the industry works through the supply chain constraints. America's adjusted operating income of $150.5 million increased 21.3% versus the prior year period, and adjusted operating margin for the quarter was down 50 basis points. The decrease was driven by headwinds related to inflation, bounce-back costs, and unfavorable mix, more than offsetting the volume leverage. While the price productivity inflation dynamic was slightly positive on a dollar basis, it did have a 60 basis point dilutive impact on adjusted margins, as did the incremental investment spend. Please go to slide number 10. Second quarter revenues for the Allegiant international segment were 197.5 million, up 36%, and up 26.6% on an organic basis. The organic growth was driven predominantly by strength across all European countries and businesses as markets continue to rebound. Part of the year-over-year growth was due to the comparative impact of COVID-related shutdowns in the prior year. Favorable currency impacts also contributed to total revenue growth and were slightly offset by divestiture impacts. International adjusted operating income of $18.5 million increased more than $18 million versus the prior year period. Adjusted operating margin for the quarter increased by 920 basis points. The margin increase was driven primarily by solid volume leverage benefits from lower operating costs due to restructuring and cost control actions taken during 2020, as well as favorable currency impacts. All of these offset the higher inflation and bounce-back costs, which had a 150 basis point impact, and incremental investments, which were a 20 basis point headwind. Please go to slide number 11. Year-to-date available cash flow for the second quarter 2021 came in at $249.6 million, which is an increase of $146 million compared to the prior year period. The increase was driven by higher earnings, improvements in net working capital, and reduced capital expenditures. Our cash flow generation continues to be a strong asset for the company. Looking at the chart to the right, it shows working capital as a percent of revenues decreased based on a four-point quarter average. This was driven by improved asset turnover in both receivables and inventory. The business continues to generate strong cash flow and is well positioned to deliver $500 million in available cash flow for the year. I will now hand it back over to Dave for an update for our full year 2021 outlook. Thank you, Patrick.
spk06: Please go to slide number 12. At the end of Q2, leading indicators continue to be positive. I'm increasingly optimistic on the economic recovery. The America's residential business continues to be hot. On the non-residential side of it, America's demand accelerated for retrofit repair and small projects and is recovering in new construction. However, labor and part charges are proving to be challenging, and we are building a strong backlog that will benefit us in the future. With these parameters in place, we are raising our outlook for total revenue in the Americas to be at 4.5% to 5%, and organic revenue to be up 4% to 4.5% in 2021. In the Allegiant International segments, markets continue to recover, led by our Germanic and global portable security businesses. Currency tailwinds more than offset the divestiture of our QMI door business and contribute to total growth. For that region, we are raising our outlook for total revenue growth to 13.5% to 14.5% with organic growth of 8.5% to 9.5%. All in for Total Allegiant, we are now projecting total revenue to be up 7% to 7.5% and organic revenue to increase to 5.5% to 6%. We are also raising our earnings per share outlook with reported EPS at a range of $5.15 to $5.30 and adjusted EPS to be between $5.25 and $5.40. This guide incorporates pricing actions to mitigate the expected impact of direct material inflation. We anticipate these inflationary challenges will persist for the balance of the year, and we will continue to monitor and adapt to changing market conditions. Our outlook for available cash flow is also being raised and is now projected to be 490 to 510 million. The outlook assumes investment spend of approximately 20 cents per share. The full adjusted effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 12%. The outlook for outstanding diluted shares continues to be approximately 91 million shares. Please go to slide 13. Allegiant continued its great start in 2021. We have managed the business extremely well, and leading indicators and specific market indices related to our business continue to be positive. Looking forward, we are prepared to navigate the pressures related to accelerated inflation and labor and part shortages. We are encouraged by the positive resiliency of our supply chain, and we will continue to manage these challenges for the balance of the year. Thank you. Now Patrick and I will be happy to take your questions.
spk02: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Again, please ask one question and one brief follow-up. After that, you are welcome to rejoin the queue. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Josh with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hi, good morning, guys. Morning, Josh. So I guess first question on the margin front. Obviously, there's kind of the tyranny of the math on on price costs, even though you're positive on the dollar basis. And I would imagine a little bit of a mixed headwind on the resi side as well. But if you just kind of take a giant step back and put some of the mechanical items aside, do you feel like getting price or managing inflation and logistics and all the other kind of inflationary headwind labor? is any different than it has been normally, or has that gotten a little bit more challenging? It's sort of hard to parse through some of the different moving pieces there.
spk07: Yeah, I would characterize it this way, and you're right, there's a lot of tyranny in the math. But what we've seen is an acceleration of inflation, predominantly in commodity costs, material components, freight packaging, et cetera, it's continued to be a headwind. You know, as you know, we're pretty aggressive, you know, moving on price. And we're taking similar actions, you know, in the back half of this year. We've went ahead and announced a price increase that will take effect at the beginning of Q4. So there's going to be some margin pressure, I would say, you know, given the acceleration inflation, particularly in Q3. I expect price to offset material inflation. The issue is really in some of the other components as it relates to packaging, freight, those type of things. We'll drive productivity to help mitigate those type of things like we have previously, but it's going to be a challenge. There'll be some margin pressure in the back half of the year, but I feel very confident relative to margin improvement as we go into 2022, predominantly because of the carryover price, and we'll continue to take pricing actions next year. We'll have an improved mix profile as it relates to the non-residential business growing faster and accelerating more so than the residential business. And we're not going to have these bounce-back costs, which were an issue for us in Q2 and will kind of linger during Q3, Q4 this year. So I think, you know, to answer your question, Joss, we'll continue to manage the business. We'll get through some of these supply chain challenges. That in of itself will also put a little bit of margin pressure because of some of the inefficiencies at the factories. But, you know, we'll manage through it. Margins sequentially will improve in the second half relative to the first half. Still down year over year. But then in 2020, expect margin improvement to accelerate.
spk04: Got it. That's helpful. And then I guess just to follow up on the comment, Dave, you made on record backlog, you know, maybe if you could unpack that a little, because I would imagine some of that is resi where you probably don't really want a lot of backlog there. And it's more indicative of, you know, lead times and supply chain stuff than it is necessarily like a long cycle business. So maybe break down the components of that of, How much is non-resi as a market getting better and reopening and retrofit versus, you know, we're just carrying more backlog in resi because, you know, the whole supply chain's lengthened? Thanks.
spk06: So I want to be clear, the backlog issue is not a residential problem. Our residential backlog, slightly above what we'd normally run. The backlog creation has been on the commercial side of the business and The rapid build has really happened over the last 60 to 90 days. The commercial backlog, predominantly on the Americas business, is double normal. It was really driven by the acceleration of order demand that we started seeing in April. You know, I'll give you some backdrop here. You go back December, January, February, March, and we would have talked about this in the Q1 call. Commercial institutional demand in the Americas business was down low double digits, and it's like someone turned on a light. And it's extremely pleased with that, you know, demand acceleration. We're doing a good job of, I think, processing that through, but there's supply constraints, and it's resulted in a record backlog that I think we'll continue to see. There's been analysts out there that have said we've done a better job of managing this, and I believe that to be true. Our supply chain is strong, and we're going to benefit from that trend. I'd also share one other comment. The macroeconomic forecast on what I'd say, the commercial break fix was not particularly clear. In fact, I've got economic reports that would suggest that the repair replacement would have been soft even today. That switch came back on. We've gained that opportunity. You know, so why couldn't we have seen it? When you shut off access to college campuses, hospitals, and commercial buildings for 400 days, you get pent-up demand. And that's what we're seeing reacting positively in the marketplace.
spk04: Got it. Very helpful. Thanks, guys. Thank you.
spk02: The next question comes from Chris Snyder with UBS. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you. Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you. And I kind of want to follow up on the margin commentary, but maybe from a bit of a different angle. So, you know, guidance implies a pretty material ramp in margins into the back half of 2021. You know, my back of the envelope math puts, you know, maybe margins in the low 21% range versus, you know, low to mid 19s in the first half. Can you just kind of help unpack the drivers of this step higher? Because guidance is not implying much volume leverage into the back half. So is this more price catching up to cost, freight normalizing, mix normalizing? Any color on that step higher into the back half would be appreciated.
spk07: Yeah, so that trend is not uncharacteristic. From a seasonality perspective, margins, if you kind of look at it over a historical time period, stronger, you know, back half of the year. So, that's not unusual. I think, you know, as we characterized sequentially, margins are expected to increase. It's the year-over-year comparisons that we would expect some, you know, degradation, just kind of given some of the things we outlined relative to inflation.
spk10: Male Speaker 1 I appreciate that. And then I guess following up also on the record backlogs, it sounds like revenue on some level was constrained just by the supply chain issues that everyone is feeling. And it also sounds like the back half or the full year growth guidance is also reflecting uncertainty as to when these backlogs will be released, whether it's the back half of 21 or into 22. You know, could you provide any color on, you know, maybe how much or how significant, you know, revenues were maybe constrained in the quarter just because of those supply chain issues? And then, you know, how we should – you know, what level of maybe supply chain conservatism is baked into the fully organic growth guidance?
spk07: You know, so we – when we look at the – demand relative to what we could ship. I mean, there is going to be a disconnect there, just kind of given the supply chain constraints. And I think you're aware, Chris, you know, we normally carry a light backlog, you know, highly specified engineered product, quick turnover in our manufacturing facilities to the customer. That has been elevated, you know, kind of given some of the constraints. But to answer your question specifically, You know, it could be one, one and a half percent, you know, kind of total revenue, a legion that's constrained that will get the revenue. So it's not a question of if, it's just a question of timing. So we look at it as a timing kind of transitory issue. And if the supply chain constraints persist, we'll get that in 2022, which means revenue in 22 would be you know, accelerated more so than the overall market demand.
spk10: I would add... Thank you for that.
spk06: I would add a couple other comments. Clearly, supply constraints and the rapid acceleration of demand that we saw helped build backlog. I would say... We will, you know, over this entire pandemic and downturn, the resiliency of the Allegiant supply chain, I believe, was stronger than the competition. And, you know, we're going to come out of this better. So, you know, feel good about that. I think the other thing you've got to think about, we're not alone in this. You know, in the retrofit community and new construction, you know, the entire project is affected by this, and we've just got to navigate in that environment.
spk10: I appreciate that. Thank you.
spk02: The next question comes from Brian Ruttenberg of Imperial Capital. Please go ahead.
spk14: Yes, thank you very much. So I have two questions. Can you talk about the commercial office performance in the quarter? How much was this sector down year over year? How much did commercial office represent in terms of revenue in the quarter? I'm just trying to get a data point where you are.
spk07: Yeah, so we don't really provide revenue by vertical market. But, you know, I would just say in terms of market demand, you know, i.e. order intake activity, what we're seeing, specification, et cetera, commercial office space is lagging institutional segment. And, you know, a lot of that is just not kind of keeping pace with what we're seeing in terms of the rebound and repair retrofit and new construction. So, you know, hopefully that provides you with ample color there.
spk06: I'd maybe give you a little bit more. Again, we don't split out, you know, that commercial segment as a standalone, but the strength, that we saw in the first half was really driven by strong wholesale, uh, uh, small project and, and, uh, retrofit business. Um, you know, where that, that business ends up, you know, we don't have precise data on, but there's, you know, the snapback of that volume would say, you know, even in the commercial office space, there's, there's, uh, investment going in there to repurpose, to reposition. And I like the opportunity for Allegiant as we move through there from an electronic standpoint. You go back six months ago, I was concerned about the return to office. And, you know, we're going to have a lot of vacancies out there. Capital will go in and redefine that space, and it's going to be good for our industry.
spk14: Great. Well, thank you. The second question I have, just coming off of ISC West and meeting with a lot of companies, private and public, we see a lot of competition coming at access control with a total solution. And one of the trends I'm seeing is white labeling of hardware at a discount and integrating software. So it's all about delivering a total solution. The hardware maybe name doesn't mean as much. That's what I'm hearing at least. So some of these companies that are investing large sums of money in this total access control solution, that's what we're seeing. Can you address what you're seeing in the industry and how you're addressing this threat?
spk06: I think, you know, in today's presentation, we tried to emphasize, you know, our build, borrow, buy emphasis and our partnerships with the, you know, the megatechs. I certainly see this, you know, private labeling, white labeling phenomena. I would just suggest the core part of our business has a level of complexity and connectivity that I'll bet on over the long haul. When you get into a complex business or a complex – event space like you were at at ISC West, it's easy to look at this and say, okay, I can have a small offering of white label products, but when you start adding code requirements, master key systems, the connectivity with an Apple, a Google, a Linnell, the game gets a lot tougher.
spk14: Great. Well, thank you very much for addressing those. I really appreciate it. Have a good day. You're welcome.
spk02: The next question comes from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk00: Hi, good morning. Just wanted to circle back to the America's Revenue Guide for the year. You know, you're embedding, I think, maybe very low single-digit growth year on year in the second half in the America's. Just trying to understand what's embedded in that for residential versus non-residential and what sort of pace of slowdown of residential growth you're assuming.
spk07: Yeah. So, Julian, you know, just as a reminder, last year as we were coming out of the pandemic and demand started to surge, you know, for replacement demand on residential products, Backlog accelerated. Channel inventories were depleted. And so a lot of the revenue growth last year was channel fill. You know, big box, retail, e-commerce, et cetera. And so you're getting a tough comp, particularly in the second half as it relates to the residential business. And so that's going to impact the comparability, particularly when you're looking at overall Allegiant America's business. You know, as we indicated, non-residential business, you know, starting to show good demand, a little bit constrained relative to the, you know, supply chain issues, but we'll start seeing some growth, you know, kind of year over year. So it's really that the guide you have to take into account last year had a higher growth component associated with channel fill related to the residential business.
spk00: Sure, but I guess I'm trying to understand, are you assuming that residential revenues are down year on year in the second half?
spk07: No, they're still increasing.
spk00: Okay, got it. That's just what I wanted to check. Thank you. And then on the margin front, you know, looking at, yeah, we keep attacking it different ways, but let's look at it sort of second half margin year on year because I think that makes more sense in terms of the information you provide in the 10Q and so on. So it looks like your second half operating margins from wide may be down something like 100, 200 bps year on year in the second half. Is the way to think about that, it's about 200 bps headwind from inflation, net of price, productivity, and then maybe another 100 bps headwind from investment spend. Are those roughly the right orders of magnitude?
spk07: Yes. And, you know, I would just a little bit more color on the price productivity inflation dynamic. Included in that guide would include some of the effect of these bounce back costs, you know, that we've been highlighting. It was much more pronounced in Q2, but you've got kind of some of those costs that continue in Q3, Q4. So that's some of the pressure as well year over year.
spk00: Perfect.
spk02: Thank you. The next question comes from David McGregor with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.
spk11: Hi, this is Joe Nolan. I'm for David McGregor. Good morning, Joe. Good morning. I was just wondering, could you talk about field inventory levels in both the residential and commercial business? And then just how you expect the timing of the channel restock to play out?
spk06: On the residential side, you know, big box, our ResPro partners, I think the restocking of that supply chain is essentially complete. There is pressure on any type of electronic-related product, again, which we're navigating well, but, you know, that will be a problem that moves through in the next four quarters. On the commercial wholesale side, as I talked about the bounce back in demand, I think part of that is wholesalers seeing the confidence in the marketplace and restocking, but I think much of it's going straight through because of the availability or really green light on small projects that were delayed over a continued period. I would suggest that the restocking of the wholesale and contract supply chain will be completed over the next two to three quarters.
spk11: Okay, thanks for that. And then also just on your education business, given the year-ago pull forward in the timing of seasonal maintenance into 2Q20, Was that a growth headwind that you experienced in 2Q21 this year, and do you think that becomes a tailwind here in 3Q?
spk06: State your question again. You broke up.
spk11: Oh, sorry. Just on the education business, given the year-ago pull forward and the timing of seasonal maintenance into 2Q20, was that a growth headwind this year in 2Q21, and does that become a tailwind here in the third quarter?
spk06: Yeah. I would look at the opportunity in K through 12 as part of the bounce back, but more a positive as we move into 22 and 23. America is going to continue to invest in its K through 12 infrastructure from a variety of reasons, age, increased security, more automation, and Allegiant will benefit from that. It's clearly a positive.
spk11: Okay. Thanks.
spk02: The next question comes from Andrew Obin with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk06: Hey, guys. Good morning. Good morning, Andrew.
spk09: For a while, I thought I would have to use the word unpack in my question. I was wondering if there was a memo that went out, you know, to use the term unpack.
spk05: I thought you were going to remind me that you had it right on this bounce back.
spk09: Oh, well, I'll take that too. Thank you. I guess the question is on pricing. Historically, your pricing has been fairly close to that of your large competitor in North America. This quarter, they seem to be ahead of you. And I was just wondering, is there a difference in approach to channel? between the two of you, or it's just a matter of timing, as I said, because the industry seems to sort of move in lockstep?
spk06: I wouldn't say they're ahead of us. My words to our leaders worldwide is use all tools required to address the extraordinary inflationary forces. We were out with a normal... you know, Q1 price increase. We've added surcharges on certain products and we've announced a end of Q3 price increase, you know, two price increases in a year. And the other tools that we're using to mitigate price, I think the industry has been disciplined and, you know, our stewardship of making sure that we respond to the incredible inflationary forces will work for us.
spk09: Gotcha. Thank you. Then the second question, as you and I, I think I've asked this question a couple of times, but as you face supply chain constraints, are you rethinking, you know, either your approach to your internal supply chain, i.e., you know, sort of more automation, or are you sort of rethinking, you know, sourcing, you know, any long-term impact from sort of current disruption in the channel, or you think, you know, once we sort of get rid of the bullwhip effect, things go back to normal fairly fast?
spk06: I think the illegal supply chain is always a strategic item as we think about positioning the business, one. Number two, I'd point to our decrementals during the downturn. Our decrementals on a top-line basis were softer than any of the competition, meaning, you know, as the markets collapsed, our revenues were stronger on those decrementals, and I would point to supply chain. Third is, I think, clearly a lot of work going on, I'd say, managing the complexity of what we do. It's everything from boards to grommets to casting. Part of what the Allegiant franchise is built on is managing this complexity. Our supply chain does an important part of, plays a critical part of that, but it's rethinking those partnerships, making sure that we've got the availability of any type of part to be able to move it You know, we've made some pretty significant industrial investments in automation. Those will continue. I think as we go through this, labor availability is going to be in scarcity on a worldwide basis. And so automation investment, investing with strong suppliers, and producing in region are key drivers for Allegiant, Andrew.
spk09: Well, Dave, thank you so much, and I appreciate the compliments. I don't get those often. Thank you.
spk06: I'm going to, I should have read that twice. I did read it twice.
spk02: The next question comes from Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk12: Thanks. Good morning, guys, and no need to fish for compliments on this one. Just a quick, quick, quick question here on the margins. If I take a look at the America's margins and your commentary around pricing for 4Q, I guess when we think about the sequential change in margins in the Americas, is there kind of like embedded in your expectations that sequentially margins potentially step down in 3Q because of these inflationary pressures and then back up in 4Q? Just trying to understand the cadence a little bit better.
spk07: Yeah, so you got it right. Q3... margin decrease year over year much more pronounced than Q4. Q4, because of the price increase and some further actions, still down, but improving. Not as far down as Q3. Okay.
spk12: All right. That's super helpful. And then I guess maybe just one broader question. I know that you guys consistently get compared to your you know, your European peer in the U.S. But if we took a step back and just thought about the industry as a whole and the potential consolidation in the LOX market in the U.S., do you guys view the market as being, you know, fairly well concentrated today? Are there opportunities to continue to expand either via M&A? You know, within the market, do you see future consolidation? Just curious around your broader thoughts there.
spk06: I think over the last decade, this is an industry that's consolidated. I would suggest that that's not moved at the pace that other industries have. There's opportunities, half-step adjacencies. I think the brightest growth aspect for Allegiant is in the seamless access technologies. Part of the corporate spend this year is We're investing to try and better understand the future of seamless access and where it could be five to ten years out because of our unique position. My message here, the industry is going to continue to consolidate it, but I believe through innovation of our unique position on the door, electronics, your edge device, that it will continue to drive nice growth for Allegiant.
spk12: Okay, that's helpful, Dave. Thanks, guys.
spk02: The next question comes from Tim Weiss with Baird. Please go ahead.
spk13: Hey, guys. Good morning. Good morning to you. So first question is on investments, and I guess it's two parts. So I guess first, Could you just elaborate a little more on where you're making the actual incremental investments this year? And then secondly, could you just talk about the pipeline build for future investments and how the paybacks on those are kind of prospectively versus history? Are they the kind of same, better or worse? Just kind of curious there.
spk07: Yeah, Tim. So the majority of the incremental investments would be centered around R&D technology type of investments centered around driving electronics revenue growth and market segmentation, i.e., where are the opportunities where we can expand our business and leverage our franchise globally? And so, you know, think about that in relation to some of the things Dave talked about in terms of enhancing our partnerships to have broader connectivity into electronic seamless access ecosystems and solutions. very important for the business going forward. So we're putting monies in those that I think will position us extremely well for growth going forward and will help us continue to grow faster than the broader market is the plan there. Your question on ROIC, it's always been a really good payback, not only on investment, but on a cash-on-cash basis. And you know, good things to do that will position us in the marketplace for further growth. And, you know, historically, you've kind of seen our revenue kind of trend probably a little bit north of our peer set and would expect that to kind of continue given the level of investments that we're making to position our franchise going forward.
spk06: I'd build on that a bit, Tim, to say, you know, We've had, you know, take out the pandemic, we've had, you know, five, six years of double-digit electronics growth, and clearly the market moving that way. We've got, over the next 24 months, a nice pipeline of connected products, you know, coming out that will enhance. Specific investments in software capabilities, what I call software stacks, that enhance the partnerships that we talked about today. You have to have the APIs, SDKs that allow our locks to work in our own ecosystems and work in the complex ecosystems that may be present at a hospital, a college campus. We believe this differentiates us versus, you know, one horse ponies that, you know, come in with a solution and an important part of our future growth. I'd add one other is segmenting the market and understanding, you know, the future five, 10 years out in multifamily, K through 12, college campuses and hospitals. We think we have an important role to play in And our installed base in this connected environment will leverage Allegiance growth.
spk07: You know, I just, you know, Tim, also just think about the movement in technology, how fast things are changing and being part of a broader ecosystem where we can, our products can seamlessly plug and play into, you know, a broader set of solutions, very important. And so, you know, investments, incremental investments will continue. I mean, it's part of our DNA in terms of how we think about accelerating growth. And, you know, things are moving quickly, and we want to be a market leader in that segment.
spk06: In the debt, partnerships with the megatechs, which are important, partnerships with the integrators like L&M. Our venture arm, I think you saw the announcement on Open Path, the sale to Motorola Solutions, an excellent example of how we're playing that game and then continue investments in the digital players that help drive our growth.
spk13: Okay, great. No, I really appreciate it. It all makes sense. I guess the second question just on maybe, you know, bigger picture, Could you just frame for us how you're thinking about a recovery and maybe revenue contribution from the specification business? So you're obviously seeing, you know, an uptick on the specification side. But when do you think you could start to see that be a meaningful revenue contributor? Is that a four-year benefit next year or is it skewed towards the second half?
spk06: I think you'll see that, you know, really gaining some speed Q2 of next year and through the traditional construction season. ABI has been up for three, four consecutive months at really records high, 60. I think we were there for a peak. Takes about 12 to 18 months based on the scope of those projects for us to really start seeing the momentum.
spk13: Okay. Okay, great. Well, good luck. Thanks for the time, guys. Thank you.
spk02: The next question comes from John Walsh with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, good morning. Good morning. Maybe just two follow-ups here. One, you had a little bit of a discussion there on PK through 12. You talked about the age, the security, more automation, but You know, one thing you didn't mention was stimulus. And just curious, we're hearing that there's a lot of stimulus already been approved for that vertical, a lot of focus on HVAC, but there is a big demand on the infrastructure side for access control. Are you seeing any of that benefit yet? Or is that what you're kind of talking about might come through in 22 and beyond?
spk06: As we try and unpack the stimulus package, we certainly see access control, school security as a part of that. Again, it's dominated, I think, by modernization, things that you talked about, HVAC. We're going to benefit as a result of that stimulus. I would also say there will continue to be a drive in the K-12 sector to modernize. The average K-12 structure is 40 years old. Security threats persist, and access into schools is becoming more sophisticated because of people's edge device, electronic locks, and Allegiant is going to benefit from that.
spk01: Great. Thanks. And then, you know, obviously you've lived through several inflationary cycles. You know, we could argue this one's a little bit different, but can you talk about your ability to hold price when you come out of these inflationary cycles? There's probably some regular pricing activity. I think you use the term surcharges for some things as well that Maybe those are a little bit more transitory and go away when inflation abates. But can you just talk about your historical experience there as we think about margin next year?
spk07: Yeah, sure, John. So historically, price increases announced that are permanent in nature stick going forward, okay, i.e. even in deflationary periods, prices remain the same. and, you know, fairly disciplined industry here. We did announce some surcharges on particular products that are more heavy in steel, you know, related components. And those, of course, you know, go away assuming, you know, the price of steel comes down. But the majority of our price increases are permanent price increase that we expect will stick going forward even when inflation comes down?
spk06: I would add to that the majority of my industrial career in the electrical industry and now security, we have, as a guiding management principle, as our input costs go up, I expect to capture that plus. We're very driven on the inputs as well as the pricing systems here. And it's part of our DNA. And it's never been more important as we face inflationary pressures.
spk01: Thanks. Appreciate you taking the questions.
spk02: The next question comes from Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Hey, maybe just a couple loose ends here, a lot of ground covered. First, maybe a little shout out to your international friends. Just wonder if you could give a little bit of color, you know, how you're thinking about the margins in the back half there, right? Usually we start fairly low in the first half and step up materially. I'm assuming from this, you know, kind of better run rate here in the first half, you're not expecting a, you know, the same magnitude of step-up, but I assume margins are going higher. Could you just elaborate on, you know, the trajectory there, the price-cost dynamics, you know, in those markets collectively, and what, if any, other restructuring benefits you have coming through?
spk07: Yeah, Jeff, so thanks for bringing that up. Outstanding performance by the international team, you know, particularly when you're looking at not only margin increase, but the top line growth. And that's been a key contributor to the margin expansion there as well. But you may recall, you know, if you kind of look at that segment in isolation, they were probably out in front of this pandemic quicker in terms of reducing costs, you know, managing that side of the equation, restructuring programs that kind of went through both in Europe and Asia Pacific. We also are seeing the benefit of the amalgamation of both the Asia Pacific and European segments, you know, coming together as Allegiant International. All that combined has really accelerated the margin improvement year over year. The restructuring actions, the benefits we saw in the first half kind of lap, if you will, beginning in Q3. So you're not going to see this step up in margin expansion year over year. Seasonally, you know this, Jeff, that the margins expand in Q4 for that segment in particular. We expect the same seasonal increase, but the year-over-year margin improvements, you're not going to see. There was some one-time benefits in Q4 that are non-recurring this year, bounce back in cost, higher inflation, these type of things. But, you know, the great performance first half, We would expect kind of this kind of continuous margin improvement going into next year or two. And so really like, you know, what the team has done there, how they're executing, driving top line growth, those type of things. Great performance.
spk03: Great. Now understood. And then just back to kind of the whole backlog top line calculus here. I mean, I guess your guide essentially, you know, kind of indicates revenues in Q3 and Q4 will, you know, be similar to Q2, which is, you know, not atypical for your business. But I guess I'm also hearing, though, that, you know, perhaps you're suggesting the top line is just governed here by the supply and other constraints. Is that really the message that they're, you know, kind of in normal circumstances, there would be more upside into the back half, just unlocking this backlog, but just the physical ability to get it out the door, whether it's your own factory or inputs from suppliers, just keeping a lid on what you can actually execute on in 2021.
spk06: You read that correctly. I think we've assessed, okay, what's possible here. We'll move that backlog through. I think we are mindful of the constraints on our supply base. We're also, I think... grounded that labor may be the tightest element in all of this, and it affects our customers and suppliers, so you've got to kind of take a stiff view at this. When are people going to come back to work and availability improve? We think that's a long-term problem. We think the culture of Allegiant, how we run our business, and the strength of our supply chain will do better in the competition than that battle. Great. Thanks for the follow-up. Thank you.
spk02: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dave Petratis for any closing remarks.
spk06: Thanks for joining today's call. Allegiant's future remains bright, and I'd like to leave you with some key highlights of our call. Market demand is robust and has returned to pre-pandemic levels faster and stronger than anticipated. This is extremely encouraging. Inflation has accelerated, and there are industry-wide supply chain pressures. These constraints are not unique to us, and we will actively manage both of these dynamics. The resulting backlogs we are building set this up well for the remainder of 21 and 22. Last, Allegiant is stronger, more structurally sound as we continue to invest during the pandemic As a result, we are positioned well for profitable growth and will continue to aggressively execute on our strategy of seamless access. Have a great day today. Thanks for your attendance.
spk02: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
Disclaimer