Ashland Inc.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Ashland's first quarter fiscal 2021 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants' lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Seth Morozek, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Phyllis. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Ashland's first quarter fiscal year 2021 earnings conference call and webcast. My name is Seth Morozek, Director, Ashland Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are Guillermo Novo, Ashland's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Willis, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We released preliminary results for the quarter ended December 31, 2020, at approximately 5 p.m. Eastern Time yesterday, February 3. This news release issued last night was furnished to the SEC in a Form 8-K. During this morning's call, we will reference slides that are currently being webcast on our website, Ashland.com, under the investor relations section. The slides can also be found on the investor relations section of our website. We encourage you to follow along during the webcast during the call. Please turn to slide two. As a reminder, during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements on several matters, including our outlook for fiscal year 2021. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause future results or events to differ materially from today's projections. We believe any such statements are based on reasonable assumptions but cannot assure that such expectations will be achieved. Please refer to slide two of the presentation for a more complete explanation of those risks and uncertainties and the limits applicable to forward-looking statements. Please also note that we will be referring to certain actual and projected financial metrics of Ashland on an adjusted basis, which are non-GAAP financial measures. We will refer to these measures as adjusted and present them in order to supplement your understanding and assessment of the financial performance of our ongoing business. Non-GAAP measures should not be considered a substitute for or superior to financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP. The most directly comparable gap measures as well as reconciliations of the non-gap measures to those gap measures are available on our website and in the appendix of today's slide presentation. Please turn to slide three. Guillermo will begin the call this morning with an overview of Ashland's results in the first fiscal quarter. Next, Kevin will provide a more detailed review of financial results for the quarter. Finally, Guillermo will close with key priorities and planning in the current economic environment in addition to providing his thoughts on important next steps. We will then open the line for questions. Now, please turn to slide five, and I will turn the call over to Guillermo for his opening comments. Guillermo?

Guillermo Diaz- Thank you, Seth, and good morning to everyone. Before I begin, I'd like to thank you for your participation this morning. First and foremost, this quarter's results demonstrates the overall business conditions are improving and we are successfully executing our strategy. We continue to operate safely with a clear focus on the safety and well-being of all our employees as we manage through this difficult pandemic. As we execute our strategy, our business priorities remain unchanged, demonstrating organic growth, expanding margins, and improving free cash flow. During the quarter, our team successfully delivered on each of these priorities. Ashland sales grew 4%, inclusive of favorable currency. Most of the consumer end markets continued to demonstrate resilient demand, with life science delivering strong growth during the quarter. However, the global pandemic is still impacting some businesses linked to consumer behaviors. We have not seen demand improve in hairstyling, sun care, and other businesses linked to grooming activities impacted by changes in social and recreational dynamics. We also began the process of exiting lower margin product lines. We commented on our last call. We saw continued recovery of industrial demand, as well as reduced seasonality. This demand improvement was broad-based across multiple end markets, and our industrial businesses executed well during the quarter. Consistent with our strategy, higher volumes, improved mix, lower SARD, and lower operating expenses led to growth in EBITDA and EBITDA margins. Our focus on earnings growth and disciplined working capital control delivered significant growth in free cash flow. Lastly, in line with our goal of leveraging bolt-on M&A opportunities to support our strategy, we announced the agreement to acquire Shulkin-Meyer's personal care preservative business. I'm very pleased with the progress made by the Ashland team to deliver improving momentum in what continues to be an uncertain global marketplace. I will discuss how this improving momentum impacts our outlook for fiscal year 21 following Kevin's review of the Q1 results. Kevin?

Thank you, Guillermo, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide seven. Total Ashland sales in the quarter were $552 million, up 4% versus prior year. These results reflect continued resilience in our consumer businesses and strong improvement in our industrial businesses. Favorable currency contributed 2% to growth during the quarter. Excluding key items, SG&A and R&D costs again declined in the quarter as we realized the positive impact of our cost reduction programs. In total, Ashland's adjusted EBITDA was $124 million, a 41% increase over the prior year quarter. Note that the prior year included $12 million of cost for an extended plant turnaround within intermediates and solvents. Ashland's adjusted EBITDA margin was 22.5%, a 600 basis point improvement over last year. Adjusted EPS, excluding acquisition amortization, was 94 cents per share, up 129% from the prior year. Now let's review the results of each of our three business groups. Please turn to slide eight. I'll begin with consumer specialties. Sales were $296 million, up 1% from the prior year quarter. Currency favorably impacted sales by 2%. Within life sciences, pharma continued to perform well, up double digits in the quarter, driven by strong demand for pharma excipients. While nutraceutical sales were down modestly, primarily due to supply chain and labor constraints, Gross profit was up, and we continue to be pleased with the progress the team is making. Sales to nutrition and other end markets were up mid-single digits. In total, life sciences sales increased by 10% during the quarter. Sales to personal care end markets were down during the quarter due to several factors, while EBITDA growth was strong at 13% versus the prior year quarter due to favorable mix and cost improvements. As previously discussed, we began to exit some lower margin product lines, which accounted for about half of the year-over-year sales decline, but favorably impacted both mix and margins. We also continue to work through the previously communicated challenges at Evoca. While the team is making progress on the Scarilide product line, there is more work to be done. And the COVID-19 pandemic continues to impact certain consumer behaviors related to areas such as hairstyling and sun care. Each of these are well understood and previously committed issues that are being actively addressed by the personal care team. In total, personal care and household sales declined by 8% during the quarter. The exit of lower margin products and challenges with Avoca accounted for the entirety of the decline. For all of consumer specialties, favorable mix and lower SAR expenses led to improved earnings and margins. Adjusted EBITDA margin in life sciences improved to 26%, while in personal care and household, adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 27%. In total, consumer specialties adjusted EBITDA improved to $79 million, up 18% versus prior year, at a margin of 26.7%, a 380 basis point improvement. Please turn to slide 9. Turning to industrial specialties, sales were $231 million, up 8% from the prior year quarter. we saw broad-based growth across industrial end markets consistent with industrial demand recovery. Currency favorably impacted sales by 2%. Our coatings business was up double digits during the quarter, reflecting strong global demand for architectural paints, particularly in the DIY applications. And while we saw modest growth in construction products, our energy business continues to be down significantly. reflecting lower drilling activity around the globe. In total, specialty additive sales increased by 6% during the quarter. We generated double-digit growth in performance adhesives, which did include some modest volume increases from certain customers preparing for Brexit. Structural adhesive sales were up, demonstrating strong improvement in demand for automotive and building applications. and their laminated and coatings adhesives business grew due to strong demand for food packaging. In total, performance adhesive sales increased by 14% during the quarter. For all of industrial specialties, favorable mix and lower SAR expenses led to improved earnings and margins. Adjusted EBITDA and specialty additives improved to 22%, while in performance adhesives, adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 27%. In total, industrial specialties adjusted EBITDA improved to $55 million, an EBITDA margin of 23.8%, a 360 basis point improvement over prior year. Please turn to slide 10. Turning to intermediate consultants, sales were up $33 million, up 18% from the year-ago period. The majority of the sales increase was driven by higher intercompany sales versus the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA of $5 million for INS was up from negative $9 million in the prior year period, which included the impact of an extended turnaround at the Lima, Ohio facility. Please turn to slide 11. Before I turn the call back over to Guillermo, I'd like to spend a few minutes talking about free cash flow in the quarter. Total free cash flow was $76 million. a $139 million improvement compared to last year's deficit. The $76 million included $14 million of cash restructuring payments related to our ongoing COGS and SARD cost reduction programs. This is an excellent result driven by earnings growth and disciplined working capital management across the business units. It's also a great example of Ashland's free cash flow generation capability. For fiscal 21, we expect to convert EBITDA to free cash flow at a rate north of 50 percent, inclusive of cash restructuring costs, which we expect to be around $35 million for the year. And we are focused on and expect to continue improving our cash conversion rate. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Guillermo to address our priorities, outlook, and strategic focus. Guillermo?

Guillermo Diaz- Thank you, Kevin. Please turn to slide 13. With the first quarter of fiscal year 21 complete, our priorities remain very clear. Drive margin expansion and enhance free cash flow conversion, continue to demonstrate business and operating resilience, and accelerate profitable growth. To achieve these objectives, we have clear levers that we plan to act on with the same discipline we showed in 2020. Capitalize, finalize and capitalize on the $50 million SARD cost savings commitment, most of which was completed in 2020, and accelerate the implementation and capture of the $50 million in COGS reductions we have identified. Drive productivity and mix improvement from innovation, focus on more profitable strategic segment, and exit of lower end market lines we feel we cannot improve. and align our capital allocation priorities for CapEx and working capital consistent with our strategic priorities. During fiscal year 2020, we had the opportunity to demonstrate the underlying resilience of our business as well as our improved operating discipline. We will remain focused on driving the continuous improvement of our business-centric model and this operating discipline. Our focus continues to be shifting to accelerating profitable growth drivers, both organic and inorganic. Please turn to slide 14. A few weeks back, we announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire the personal care business from Shulk & Meyer. We're incredibly excited about this opportunity as it broadens the breadth of specialty additive solutions we can bring to our customers in personal care and markets. Our combined business will give us a meaningful presence in the personal care preservative market. We'll expand our biotechnology and microbiology technical capabilities and will help us advance our ESG agenda for personal care and household applications. This will enable us to participate in important growth trends for both our customers and global consumers. Silkenmeier has a talented and experienced team that will be at the center of driving this business, and we will create a center of excellence to drive our preservative business out of Hamburg. We look forward to welcoming this team to the Ashland family. Given this acquisition is focused on a very specific market and technology area, we are very sensitive to sharing specific competitive details about the preservative business. Although we will not be sharing specific financial information on transaction, We can comment that we remain focused on our capital allocation discipline and the transaction valuation was in line with the profile of other transactions in this space. Upon close, the business will be immediately acquitted to growth, earnings, and margins as it firmly aligns with our strategic growth and profitability improvement objectives. We expect to close the acquisition at the end of the June quarter of this year And as I also indicated, we look forward to welcoming the Schopenhauer personal care team to Ashland. Please turn to slide 15. As we've done for each of the last quarters, I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing what we see as the key performance drivers for the remainder of the fiscal year. First, as we stated before, mix improvement is key to strengthening our business. We will drive this improvement by focusing on higher priority businesses, expanding our innovation pipeline, and leveraging bolt-on M&A. As we saw this quarter, we expect that favorable product mix will continue to drive earnings growth. Second, we are working to accelerate our self-help actions. We believe we can deliver incremental savings from what we indicated in our last call. While COVID uncertainties persist, we anticipate continued improvement in global industrial demand. Improving industrial demand and expected favorable foreign currency will be positive tailwinds. On the other hand, there continue to be challenges that we must manage. The COVID pandemic still persists and we're seeing the challenges in both the evolution of the virus as well as the complexities of the vaccination rollout. This uncertainty will probably continue to impact the rate of recovery in specific segments of our business linked to consumer behaviors which have been impacted by the pandemic. While these changes in consumer behavior may be temporary, it's too early to forecast the recovery of some of these segments. Hairstyling, sun care, and other such segments. Given the seasonality of some segments, the timing of the recovery is important for our fiscal year performance. The growth in the hand sanitizer business in 2020 was a significant positive offset to the weakness in demand in some of the consumer behavior-driven end markets impacted by COVID. Although all indications are that this will continue to be a growth business over the coming years, we have seen some near-term industry adjustments as demand normalizes and customers adjust production and inventory levels after the aggressive supply push we saw in 2020. We expect to see lower demand in Q2 and then more normalized demand in the second half of our fiscal year. Our prior expectations were that this normalization would happen as other consumer segments recovered, but given current developments, we may see a bit of a disconnect in the next quarter or two. As we stated at the beginning of the COVID pandemic, we view supply chain risk as one of the greatest uncertainties. We expect availability of shipping and labor to continue to provide challenges, and we will continue to manage these issues. Although we're not expecting any significant impact on our business, nonetheless, uncertainty still exists. Finally, while raw material volatility is very manageable for Ashland as a whole, we do expect to see some enhanced volatility within the performance adhesive segment, which has a greater exposure to petrochem-derived raw materials. The adhesive team has an excellent track record of managing through periods of raw material volatility, and I'm confident in the strategy that they're pursuing. Please turn to slide 16. Regardless of the continued COVID uncertainty, we continue to be confident on our strategic and performance trajectory. Although we will not be giving specific guidance for fiscal year 21, let me update some of our forward-looking insights. From the sales growth side, we expect 3 to 5 percent growth for the year. This is based on continued recovery of the industrial businesses, a mix of resilience, and a bit more prolonged recovery in some different consumer end markets, and favorable foreign exchange. This does not include the impact of our ongoing M&A activities. Although we do expect stronger volumes will have a favorable impact on our cost absorption, they are expected to be offset by negative cost absorption impact from the labor strike at our plant in Belgium. The plant is back online and in full operation but was shut down for part of December and most of January. Given the continued high level of COVID uncertainty, we're focused on accelerating the impact of our self-help actions. These are not COVID-related actions, but rather strategic changes that will strengthen our businesses and the company for the long term. We believe we can increase the net impact of these actions to 25 or 30 million in our fiscal year 21. Our path has not changed. We're focused on driving the actions we control and building resilience and agility in our business to capitalize on the market developments for the factors we do not control. Please turn to slide 18. In closing, I want once again to thank the Ashland team for their leadership and proactive participation in an uncertain environment. We are fortunate to be a premier specialty materials company with high-quality businesses that have leadership positions in defensive markets. I'm pleased with the resilience demonstrated by our people and businesses and look forward to the opportunities that lie ahead. Thank you. Operator, let's move to Q&A.

As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of John Roberts with UBS.

Thank you. Caramel, last quarter you talked about pivoting to growth, and it looks like you've done a good acquisition here. Could you talk a little bit about the fit and synergies, you know, customer overlap and product overlap? And do you have anything else in the pipeline?

Thanks, John. So your question is very, very critical to us. This acquisition just is a perfect fit into, you know, our strategy focusing on additives and more specifically on the consumer side of our portfolio. Schilkemeyer, and I've known them for many years from my history, even Roman Haas, they were a big customer. They have a very strong position in personal care added preservatives. They've shifted their portfolio to more what you would call soft buy-asides, so more friendly, a lot of this clean beauty software. So it really enhances the portfolio that we have more towards the ESG-driven drivers. So it's going to be a very good fit for us. Between their business and ours, we'll have a pretty significant position in the market. This will become probably one of the larger segments within our personal care portfolio. So it's a really nice acquisition. We see synergies in the manufacturing. We'll be moving some of the manufacturing into our own sites. They have a very strong team. We want to keep that team. They're going to be a central part of the activities here. They have a very good, not just experience, but proven track record. So we're going to be keeping the team in Hamburg and enhancing those capabilities. I think what we can bring is scale, global scale, leveraging our labs around the world to support the business. We have a lot of things in the pipeline that we're working on on new actives, new products we want to bring in, and I think they'll be able to help us accelerate the commercialization, developing new formulations. And I'll say they have a very strong reputation with customers, so that's all very positive for us.

I guess I had forgotten you had experience with the K-Thon business at Roman Haas that's now part of DuPont, and now at New IFF, I guess.

Yeah. Well, finally, this is a business I've always liked, so finally I've been able to get it.

Secondly, Avoca sales actually had turned up last quarter because you had anniversary at, I think, the beginning of the decline that they had. It sounds like you've had a relapse there, at least your comments about challenging. Maybe you could elaborate a little bit more on that.

Yeah, you know, I think, you know, the big message we have, I wouldn't say so much a relapse is, I mean, it's the continuation. We're working through the issues. When we talk about Avoca, we have different product lines. The challenge from the legacy side was the sclerolide business. That was the fragrance carrier business. We had one of our customers that developed an alternative technology and that sort of disrupted the market. And we communicated that when I came into Ashland that was already going on. So the business is stabilizing. We're not seeing the improvement level was a little bit slower than we expected, but it's getting stable. The focus that we have is developing new business, using the capabilities that Avoca has. This is more biotech capability, extraction, fermentation, purification, to develop new applications. And that's coming, so we're doing a lot of purification, developing of new products for other companies. And we're getting the business, but the scale-up has been a little bit longer, so it's just more of a ramp-up time. As we said before, it has been an issue, but the Evoca side of it, we see a path forward, and it's just about executing, and we've had just some timing issues. But I'm confident that that will overcome. I would say the other message I would say is, look, you know, there hasn't really been much of a change. If you hear just the commentary on the markets in the personal care, obviously I would expect a lot of the questions on the growth there. And it's really just the market hasn't changed that much. You know, the consumer, you know, COVID is impacting, so the strong segments remain strong. The softer segments stay. haven't recovered, people aren't going to salons, cut hair, styling, going out, socializing. So it's more about that consumer habit. So it's about when the recovery will happen, and we'll be ready when that happens. The other question you had, do we have more in the pipeline in our M&A? And as I said in the last call, we're making that a priority, and we are working. We do see the opportunity for bolt-on M&A opportunities as we move forward.

Great. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Parkinson with Credit Suisse.

Great. Thank you. Just kind of a corollary of what you were just discussing. Just within the PPC portfolio, you're clearly making a concerted effort to bring the portfolio away from some lower-margin businesses. You've also made the strides you were just discussing in terms of, you know, avenues into additional natural ingredients via acquisition. In addition to your legacy platform, you know, Zeta Fraction, et cetera. As it stands today, you know, when you think about your current and future positioning in core skin and hair care, you know, how should we be thinking about the actual normalized growth algo and also just the ESG components, which, you know, appear to be becoming all the more incremental to your, you know, growth trajectory? Thank you.

Right. Yeah, so a great question. I think if you look at the personal care space, again, the growth dynamics, we're going to have to look at, you know, the core market demand growth, and obviously, you know, the recovery from COVID will impact that. And then what are the actions that we're taking so that we can ride that growth better? I would say on the demand side, you know, skin continues to be very strong for us. Hair care, you know, I think is the one that's been impacted on just consumer behaviors. So that we will wait to see just a broader base recovery. I think what is driving everything in this space is about ESG and the portfolio of technology. So the work we're doing, our approach has been, look, let's use our first two years, 2020 and 2021, to get our house in order, to do all the self-help actions. We can deliver significant EBITDA growth, improve the profitability of the business, change our strategy, change our innovation portfolio, and use this time. The growth drivers for the future are going to be innovation and some of these bolt-on activities that we want to do. On the innovation part, they both take time to do. So we want to use these first two years to really reposition so that as we come out of this, we're going to have a better portfolio of new technologies. So one of the things that we're doing in the innovation side is obviously expanding our natural-based products or naturally derived products. We have a lot of capabilities. and hopefully with some of these bolt-ons we can bring in more. Biodegradability is going to be a big area, so in a lot of our areas we already have a pretty strong portfolio there, given the nature of cellulosics and other parts of our portfolio, but we're putting a lot more emphasis there. So, you know, as we end this year, what we hope is that we can start rolling out commercialization of a much stronger portfolio. And some of that will happen. We're doing that this year itself, but I think a lot of the revenue impact will start more in the next year. So then you can look at market growth, and then in those segments where you're bringing greener, more ESG-driven technologies, you can expect those segments to grow more. And I think a good example of that is our biofunctional segments that have been growing in the teens even in the last few years. So We want to make sure that we're clearly positioned to capture that higher growth in those specific segments.

That's a very helpful assessment. For the second question, it does appear that you've made a very solid leap on the free cash flow per share front during this quarter, which most wouldn't have expected during the timeframe. Can you speak to your current and future conversion targets as a percent of EBITDA? You know, we saw, obviously, just 50% of the PowerPoint, and just how this tree should be forecasting free cash flow growth over the intermediate to long term. And, Kevin, I just want to make sure I heard you correctly. Did it sound like the current estimate still includes $35 million of restructuring? Thank you.

All right. So let me make a quick comment, and then, Kevin, I'll let you give more details. But obviously, free cash flow conversion has been a priority for us. We've been talking about it a lot, and I think you've seen the discipline. I think in last year and in this year, the self-help actions we're taking impacting EBITDA is clearly very critical for us. It's the core cash generation. And then, you know, changing... our capital allocation perspective, aligning everything to our strategy. We know where we want to invest in, which segments. Frankly, a lot of the improvements that we're doing are not just that we want to increase margin and reduce costs. We're looking at specific segments, businesses, production areas that are not you know, giving the return or justify continued investment and taking the opportunity really to turn them around. And we believe we can improve a lot of them and they make, you know, they'll be core parts of our long-term growth. If we can't, we'll exit them. So both the self-help action and the capital discipline, very critical for us. And then, you know, obviously then growth, profitable growth will be the bigger driver longer term. while we keep that discipline going forward. So getting our pre-cash flow above, you know, the 50%, and we're really targeting higher over time to get it into the above 60, you know, that's really the objective and the targets we have. But, Kevin, I'll pass it on to you if you want to give some better color.

Sure, sure. I mean, in the quarter, I really point to several things. I mean, obviously, you know, EBITDA was – was well above prior year, so that was a major contributor. Working capital discipline was huge in the quarter. We ended the quarter with about the same inventory level that we ended the September quarter, grew up just a little bit maybe. To put that in perspective, if you look at 1231 of 2020 versus 1231 of 19, inventory was about $100 million lower, so the discipline was continued in the quarter. We also saw a nice contribution to free cash flow from accounts receivable. We talked about this a bit on the last call. We're really focused on working the accounts receivable side of the equation. Our collections are fine. Percent current is fine. We're really working on the overall cash cycle and we're looking at all the components of the cash cycle and continuing to manage that. So Those were all good, solid contributors during the quarter and obviously made a huge difference versus the prior year. To echo Guillermo's comments, that 50% threshold is, I would say, the bare minimum that we're looking for, and clearly internally we're looking to push that much higher than 50%. Yes, as we look at the full fiscal year, Current expectation is around $35 million of cash restructuring costs. That could be plus or minus $3 million or $4 million, either direction perhaps, depending on the timing of certain things. But generally speaking, that's going to be a good number to use. And just as a reminder, $14 million of that did occur in the December quarter.

Thank you very much. Sure.

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Global Securities.

Hi, good morning. Well, thank you, Guillermo. Looking at some of the new guidance puts and takes, it looks like you increased the net cost self-help action number by about $5 million at the the midpoint. You increased the sales number by a percentage point. But now we have this issue in Belgium. So I guess given those puts and takes, was your intention to increase the full year guidance by kind of a $10 million type of EBITDA number? Is it more like $5 million? Maybe just talk about some of those puts and takes.

I think, Mike, your math is the right one. The two positives, you know, increased revenue. You know, you can calculate the normal gross profit and EBITDA margin and the increased self-help. I think, you know, the absorption would have been higher. I think it already impacted. Actually, we could have had a higher, a better quarter even in Q1. But, you know, that has been an impact. It's behind us, so it'll be more of a Q, you know, part Q1, part Q2 impact. But, you know, I did want to make sure on the last call, you know, there was a lot of focus on absorption and the volume impact. It is there. I think for 2022, it'll, you know, it'll roll over. But there will be an impact in the high, I would say probably another high single digits in the strike impact we'll have on offsetting that improved absorption. But it is there and it will flow into next year if we don't have obviously this offset that we had this year.

And then in terms of the raw material picture, you recently announced a cellulosics price increase. Maybe talk a little bit about how you're expecting raw materials versus pricing to play out on both the cellulosic and the acetylenic side of the business.

Right. You know, I think on the additive side, both, you know, the raw materials are an issue. We're managing it. We're moving to pricing. We see, you know, other increases in in freight. And so it's not just raw materials, just this activity is given the tightness of some of the markets and we're managing through that. I don't think that is going to be the biggest headwind for us. I think where we're seeing a little bit more of the, you know, the, the, the changes going on in the market is more of the pet chem derived raw materials. And, you know, that's more for our adhesive business. That's not a new thing. We've ridden through those changes over the years, and the team is very well positioned. But propylene-based chemistries, acrylic, polyurethane are the big ones that we use. We are seeing some changes. And the issue that we have there is more, you know, timing of some of these things and how, you know, they will proceed. Because part of it is, you know, the supply has been impacted across the chain as the The demand has increased across multiple markets. It's gotten tighter. Prices are going up. But you'll see some more capacity going on. So I think over the next few months and quarters, we'll just see a little bit of volatility there, and our team will manage through that. That's the biggest area on the raw materials side.

All right. And just quickly, maybe a question for Kevin. What's the capital project that you guys took an impairment charge on during the quarter?

It was HEC-related. We had done some work two, three years ago and was kind of ongoing. It's primarily engineering-related activities around a big HEC project. And we've really just gone another direction with our HEC strategy. And rather than keep all that on the shelf at the value that it was, we decided to go ahead and write that off. The work is still valid and could potentially be valuable in the future, but just using conservative accounting principles, we felt it was the right thing to do just to go ahead and write that off.

Understood. All right. Thanks very much. Sure.

Your next question comes from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank.

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. This is Catherine Griffin on for David. So first, just on the exiting the lower margin businesses, thanks for quantifying the impact in fiscal Q1, but just wondering how we should think about that impact going forward and maybe just how that plays into your expectations for 3% to 5% sales growth. Is that kind of the right run rate or just how should we be thinking about that going into the next quarter and then for the full year?

Yeah, the 3% to 5% includes already factors in the exit of that business, so that's already baked in. We'll be managing the exit on some of that part of the lower margin business through this year and probably into next year. By the end of next year, we'll be out of it. We're managing through it, obviously exiting the, you know, the least profitable businesses. We have contracts. So it's just the process by which we're going to manage it through. But I think the bigger message is, look, we're focused on the strategic segments. This is not just about selling anything. We want to sell the right materials, and that is the areas that we see sustainable differentiation, ESG differentiation, where we think we can get better returns and continue to invest in our future. And that's really the priority areas for us.

Okay, great. And then just curious if you could talk about the flow through of any, you know, the temporary cost savings from 2020, just how those flow through in the second half and then how that relates to your expectations for cash flow.

So, you know, the value that we are going to get, we've identified. I mean, most of the first phase, the SARD phase is done. We have a few laggards. I'll let maybe Kevin comment a little bit on the timing on some of those. But it's just related to activities that we've communicated. People know what's going to happen. It's just an issue of timing because we're finishing off work in specific areas. So that's pretty well defined. On the COG side, we're doing the same thing. Obviously, we need to work through that. Different regions are moving at different paces. And we're engaging people, explaining what we're doing. I mean, obviously, we had a strike in Belgium, and it's part of the changes that we're doing. I think the part that we're working with everybody is making it clear, just like we're doing with our investors, we're doing it with our employees, with our customers, being very transparent on, you know, this is our strategy, this is what we need to do for our future, explain the changes so that everybody understands them. And I think even as we saw with the Dole situation, there were questions on cost reductions and things like that. I think we've been very clear of, you know, we need to do this or some of these operations are not sustainable in the long term. I think everybody realizes that and we're back to operations. But it's a process, and it's really the timing of going through that. But, Kevin, do you want to comment a little bit more on the timing side of things?

Sure, sure. I mean, I would say on the SARD piece, we are right on target, right on schedule in terms of our initial plans. We're the vast majority of the way through that. We have some specific areas planned. that we'll be closing out as certain other things wind down within the business. That'll happen this fiscal year. I would say on the COG side, we're ahead of schedule, which is part of why we're increasing the midpoint of our range for net self-help benefit for the full year. And the team's done a really nice job with that and continues to execute well, and I'm confident we're going to we're going to do fine there. I think part of your question was around, let's call it cost savings or maybe cost avoidance that are pandemic related. And it's an interesting question and it's something we've been talking about a fair bit internally. And I think part of what it comes down to is I think a lot of companies were initially thinking, hey, when the pandemic is over and we're back to normal, whatever that means, then everybody's going to travel again and the budgets are going to reset back to normal, 2019 levels, etc. We don't think that's the case. We're thinking about that and talking about that very actively internally. I think a lot of that is going to be pretty permanent. Will there be resets? Yes, of course. There will be more travel because there's basically none right now. But I don't think we're going to see 2019 levels maybe ever again. And so I think a chunk of that's going to remain permanent in the P&L. We and many other companies are thinking about those sorts of things differently than perhaps we were at the beginning of the pandemic, partly because it's been such an extended period and looks like it's going to continue to be for a while. So I just wanted to put that part out there for you.

Great. Thank you so much.

Your next question comes from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.

Yeah, thanks for taking my question. So I guess, you know, I know you're not putting out a lot in terms of financials on the acquired business, but I guess could you give us, at least some thoughts on what the growth of that business has been, say, over the last three years or so, just so we can get maybe a better understanding of how to think about it.

Right. So, no, they've been having solid growth in the, you know, mid-single digits, I mean the high single digits, so over 5%. So, you know, they've really got a good traction. around some of these newer preservatives that the personal care industry is valuing more. So I think when we say it's accretive, it's accretive to growth. It's accretive to margins. It's accretive to our strategy, ESG. So a lot of the positives. This is a really nice fit for us.

Got it. Fair enough. And that definitely helps. And then I guess... Just when we think about the seasonality and sequencing of the margins, you know, normally your first quarter is noticeably lighter than everything else, and then, you know, you get whatever, another 300 to 400 basis points as you kind of go throughout the year. It sounds like that's largely on track other than maybe 2Q just given the strike, but is that the right way to think about it, or is the strong numbers that you put up this quarter, are they maybe a little bit of an unusual blip, if you will?

So let me give some comments, and Kevin, I'll ask you to also comment here. But if you look at the revenue side, I mean, you know, longer term, the seasonality is there, just, you know, vacations for, you know, sun care businesses or coatings, you know, those are well-established seasonality. We have seen less seasonality right now, and I think there's just pent-up projects and things that have moved a little bit more. So On the revenue side, I think it's probably been a little bit stronger than normal, so we'll see what happens next year, but clearly it's been a very positive thing, especially on the industrial side of the equation. If you look at an EBITDA side, the impact, the important part to recognize is self-help has been the major driver for us, and that is not seasonal. So the cost actions, The mix improvement actions, all these things are coming now because we've taken the action. So that, you know, I think the below, you know, the earning side of things, you're not going to see the seasonality. We will get it as we get it. And I think the revenue side is the one that, you know, is more of the seasonal impact. But it has been less. But Kevin, I don't know if you'd provide any other color.

I completely agree with your commentary. We're looking at a 400 basis point in terms of sales takeout from a cost perspective. Granted, there are some resets that come with that, but that's a real step change in the overall EBITDA margin profile of the business. Again, that's a permanent change. I think On top of that, the work that we're doing around mix improvement is definitely starting to show through, and it's by no means just about exiting lower margin product lines. That certainly helps, but it's really a focus across the portfolio to grow those parts of our business that do improve our mix and do improve our profitability and, in many cases, are more sustainable in the long term. And we're seeing that, and my expectation is that we're going to continue to see margin improvement as we continue to execute on self-help and as we continue to focus on these higher margin parts of all of our business units.

Got it. Thanks very much for the call. Sure.

Your next question is, comes from the line of Edlin Rodriguez with Jefferies.

Thank you. Good morning, guys. Quick question on personal care. I mean, some of the issues you've been having with the businesses that are being impacted by COVID, like what are you doing or what can you do to mitigate that risk? Like how are you managing that softness in the business?

Okay. Yeah, no, I think there's two things. I mean, the things we control and the things we don't control. So core demand, you know, has been softer. So there's not much we can do that until people start going out. You know, people aren't going to salons, aren't, you know, their social activities have changed. And obviously the personal care and grooming has a lot to do with people's activities. So the issue is using the time on the things we can control. And what is that? strengthening our position in the areas where we are seeing strong growth. I think in 2020, we saw that with hand sanitizers as an area, as an offset. Launching new products in the biofunctional areas, but in other areas. Repositioning a lot of our new offerings more environmentally friendly. We have a lot of new formulations for a variety of applications, including hand sanitizers, but it goes into other areas where you know, avoiding microplastics, using microplastics. We have a lot of, you know, formulation additives in the rheology space, for example, that can give solutions for our customers. So it's about positioning that ESG-driven side of the equation, and that can drive growth, both in the non-impacted areas, as we're seeing with biofunctionals and skin, but also as we introduce more ESG-driven alternatives to our customers, Even in the segments that have been impacted, you can achieve higher growth rates if you come with these products and technologies that can differentiate you. So a segment can grow at 2%, but you can have a product line that grows at 14, 15, 20%, as we saw with biofunctionals and skin, that you can get that growth. So that's part of the strategy, and I think the mix focus that Kevin was talking about, it's making sure that we're taking action on those areas. With new technology, it takes a little bit more time, so we want to use this time that we're getting some of the tailwinds of our self-help actions to position ourselves so as that part of the work levels off, we can kick in with the growth of new products and innovation. I think the M&A will be another area that will help us in that space.

Okay, that's great. And one quick one in terms of Yes, you've started to exit some of the lower margin product lines, which is great. So when you look at the current portfolio as it is right now, are there more business lines where you think that might be candidates for exit, even if you don't have to name names, but just to see?

You know, I think our self-help actions, as I said, this is not just about squeezing and trying to get costs out. we're being very purposeful on where we're going. And I think, especially if you look at some of the cost actions that we're taking in the COG side, we're going plant by plant, production unit by production units. We do have some units that are not giving the right returns. Frankly, some have lower margins than the businesses that we're exiting now. The difference is that we see that we can take actions and improve those businesses not just on cost, but process technology changes, growth, that we can increase loading. So there are things we can do. So we're identifying those lower margin segments. The issue is if we really feel we can't fix it, we'll exit it. But if we feel we can fix it, that's our first approach is to try to take action. And if we can't, then we'll follow up with other actions. And I think this, you know, the situation in our Belgian plant was a clear example. We had some significant production units that, look, we're not going to invest in it. We can't turn them around. I think we were very transparent about it. Everybody, you know, realized that that was really the driver, and we're grateful that all the team there, you know, recognized it, and they're working with us in getting that whole business not just back in production, but let's get it to a place that not only has a nice return, but that we can invest and drive growth. I mean, at the end of the day, we like some of these businesses, and I can say just from my past experience in the last company I was in, we exited plants, and then two years later, we reinvested, but we reinvested with different technology, a different approach that made it sustainable and more profitable, and I think that's the work that we're doing today. And that's the core part of the self-help. So it's an important message that self-help is not just about cost-cutting. It's about adapting our company to the business model that we have. Business-led, not all businesses are the same, so it's not one size fits all. Everybody has a different value proposition. It's about right-sizing ourselves to a smaller company. We're now a pure play $2.5 billion specialty materials company, so we have to have a structure for that, not carry forward a structure for a $5, $6 billion company. And then on specific businesses, make sure that we're doing the turnaround and that we're being purposeful because ultimately what we want is profitable growth.

Makes sense. Thank you very much.

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Sisson with Wells Fargo. Mike, your line is open.

Sorry, guys. Just one question on the Shulkin-Meyer acquisition, Guillermo. What's the annualized sales run rate for that business that will contribute? And then what are the overlapping sales energies between your business and their business, longer term?

Yeah, so Mike, thanks for the question. Like I said, we're not giving specifics of the business itself. What I would say is the combined business, the majority of which, will be the Shulker-Meyer part of it. It'll be probably our largest segment in personal care over, let's say, $125 to $140 million, just to give you a range. Very profitable in line with what our longer-term expectations are. They're selling to the same customers, same areas. So we see opportunities for synergy on the manufacturing side so that we can leverage a lot of our production. People, their talent is very important to us, so we want to make sure not only that we're keeping them, but that they become a core part of driving the business forward. They have a lot of experience with the faster-growing, more advanced, more ESG-aligned product offerings that we're interested in. So on that side, we're not looking for significant synergies there. And I think there's going to be a lot of growth synergies. I think globally the synergies that we have is we have a much bigger global footprint. We have labs in much more regions. This is a much smaller company, not just the personal care preservative business, but overall. So this really can give us a lot of more momentum, and it's really a plug and play for us. And in this case, we're going to plug in parts of our business into their areas, but then bring in allow them to leverage our overall infrastructure and capabilities to drive growth.

Got it. Thank you.

At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Guillermo Novo for closing remarks.

Thank you, Phyllis. Well, just wanted to say thank you to everybody for your interest. As I hope you're seeing, we're very excited about not just the performance that we've had, but more About the outlook, there is light at the end of the tunnel in terms of post-COVID, and it seems to be improving, and we're seeing that. There's some segments that maybe will take a little bit longer, but it's an issue of timing. It's about when, not if, these improvements will come. And I think in the meantime, we're taking actions on the things we control, and we're very happy with the progress we're making. And I think it's going to really position us well, not just for the rest of 2021, but even as we look at 2022 and beyond, it'll be a very exciting time for all of us. So thank you for your interest, and I look forward to talking to you in the near future. So thanks, everyone. Bye.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.