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spk00: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Altice USA Q4 2020 results presentation. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Nick Brown. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.
spk13: Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining. In a moment, I'll hand you over to LTCUSA's CEO, Dexter Goey, and our CFO, Mike Rohr, who will take you through the presentation, and then we'll move to Q&A. As today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements, please read the disclaimer on page two. Dexter, please go ahead.
spk14: Hello, everyone. Before we begin, I once again want to thank and take the opportunity to thank the LTCUSA team, extremely proud of its ongoing commitment displayed by our employees in navigating the pandemic, together delivering superb results for 2020, including very strong financials and record customer growth. Starting with slide three, we grew reported revenue 1.4% for the full year, or 2.6% adjusted for the impact of RSN and storm credits. In the fourth quarter, we grew reported revenue by 2.5%, and 3.6% adjusted for RSN and storm credits. We grew adjusted EBITDA 3.5% on a reported basis for the full year, or 4.8% excluding mobile and storm costs. Q4 saw an acceleration in EBITDA growth to 6.1% year over year on a reported basis, or 6.6% ex-mobile and storms. The pandemic highlighted the importance of connectivity for both homes and businesses, And we set a record for both customer and broadband net additions. And we continue to see very strong demand for higher broadband speeds. We added 81,000 residential customers, more than five times the 15,000 customers we gained in 2019, and 142,000 broadband customers, about double that of 2019. We also delivered our highest ever free cash flow of $1.9 billion for the full year. In 2020, we also took advantage of market volatility and demonstrated our commitment to delivering attractive shareholder returns, delivering a record $4.8 billion in share of purchases, including a $2.3 billion tender offer we completed in December. We successfully completed a sale of a minority stake in our light bath business to Morgan Stanley Infrastructure Partners in Q4 and acquired Service Electric of New Jersey earlier in the year. We also continue to proactively manage and strengthen our balance sheet, refinancing $4.4 billion in debt, achieving our lowest ever average cost of debt at 4.7%. All of this positions us incredibly well for 2021. Michael, providing more color on the outlook, I just want to say that while we face the ongoing uncertainty around the resolution of the pandemic, we remain very confident in our ability to continue to deliver revenue and EBITDA growth as we have done in 2020. We can expect CapEx, in the $1.3 to $1.4 billion range as we re-accelerate our fiber build and expect leverage to fall below 5.3% at CST Holdings, even with a target of $1.5 billion in share purchases for the year. Turning to slide four, we just want to take a moment to highlight some of the corporate commitments we've made as a company to support our customers, our employees, and the broader community, as well as opportunities for us on a go-forward basis. We provided free student broadband to customers during the pandemic, participated in the FCC Keep Americans Connected pledge, and provided many connectivity solutions for the broader community. We created a $10 million community relief program and have partnered with numerous philanthropic organizations like DonorsChoose and the Boys and Girls in Club of America. We also implemented numerous measures to keep our employees and customers safe. In addition to the pandemic, 2020 was also a year of significant social unrest and environmental disruption. On both fronts, we are extremely committed to doing our part. We remain committed to diversity and inclusion, including our recent recognition with a perfect 100 score for the third year in a row on the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index, where we were also named the best place to work for LGBTQ equality. Separately, we continue to focus on environmental stewardship and have numerous renewable energy projects in our pipeline that will reduce emissions and will also drive down cost savings. Turning to slide five, you can see our underlying revenue growth remains strong in this environment, again demonstrating the strength of our business. Total revenue grew 2.5% year-over-year in the fourth quarter and 1.4% in the full year. We booked $19 million in RSN revenue credits this quarter and $97 million in the full year due to fewer games being delivered during the MLB shortened season. As a reminder, these RSN credits do not impact reported EBITDA or cash flow since they are passed through. In addition to the RSN credits, we issued storm credits for affected customers totaling about $10 million this quarter and $27 million for the full year. Excluding both RSN and storm credits, total revenue growth would have been 3.6% this quarter and 2.6% for the full year, a very strong result given the pandemic. Residential revenue grew 2.2% in the quarter and 1.6% for the full year, excluding both RSN and storm credits. Business services grew 0.6% in the quarter and 2.3% in the full year, excluding RSN and storm credits. We're extremely pleased with the recovery in news and advertising, where revenue grew 29.7% year-over-year in the quarter and 9.1% for the full year. Even without political, news and advertising revenues only declined by about 3% in 2020 and grew 3.5% in Q4, a very strong result given the broader backdrop. Turning to slide six, we want to highlight the record-breaking customer and broadband growth we had in 2020. The best way to describe our momentum is through a full year 2020 lens. On a reported basis, we gained 81,000 residential customers organically, more than five times 2019 net additions, 415,000 including service electric, compared to only 15,000 customer net additions in 2019. Remember, in the fall, we were impacted by a combination of three hurricanes, Delta, Flora, and Isaias. We had about 11,000 disconnects from the storms and still have about 9,000 customers in our customer accounts that we're hoping to retain whose bills are currently past due 90 days. On an adjusted basis, excluding non-current customers affected by storms that we normally would have disconnected, we still gained 72,000 customers organically, 83,000 customers excluding the impact of storm-related disconnects, 417,000 inclusive of service electric. In residential broadband, we gained a record 142,000 organic net additions in 2020, close to double what we achieved in 2019. Adjusted to exclude the 9,000 noncurrent storm-affected customers, we still added a record 133,000 broadband customers organically, or 144,000 excluding the impact of storm disconnects. Including service electric, we added a total of 172,000 residential broadband customers on a reported basis. overall this extraordinary customer growth sets us up very well for 2021. turning to slide seven in the fourth quarter we saw reported net customer loss of 15 000 residential customers which includes customers associated with the fcc pledge and new jersey executive order as you may recall we ended q3 with about 22 000 pledge and new jersey customers who were late under payments by more than 90 days all of those customers have been brought current in the fourth quarter through a combination of balance forgiveness, payment plans, or cash payments. So far, we are seeing positive trends, payment trends in that cohort in early 2021. Recall that the pledge, the FCC pledge, ended in June. A significantly amended New Jersey order has been extended through March 2021, but we don't anticipate there to be any additional risk to our customer base from that extension. Adjusted for the retention of these subscribers, as well as excluding non-current subscribers affected by the storms, Q4 residential customer losses were minus 2,000 on an adjusted basis. Further adjusted for storm-related disconnects in Q4, residential customers would have shown a net gain of 3,000, better than the minus 5,000 customer loss in Q4 2019. Residential broadband net additions were a positive 9,000 in Q4 2020, adjusted for the retention of past two subscribers formerly covered by the FCC pledge and the New Jersey executive order. And excluding the non-current customers affected by the storms, broadband net additions would have been 14,000, further adjusted to exclude the 5,000 additional storm disconnects, which would have been double the levels of Q4 2019 when we reported 7,000 broadband net additions. For 2021, we think the appropriate benchmark for broadband customer growth is 2019, and expect to be at least in line or better with this level as we continue to return to more normalized levels. Once we get past any residual noise from the storms in New Jersey order in the first half, we expect more of a tailwind to customer growth in the second half of the year, especially as we see more of a benefit from our accelerated pace of edged-out build-outs. Again, we remain very well positioned for 2021 with a much bigger base of customers than we had anticipated acquiring a year ago, a rapidly expanding and upgraded network and with broadband penetration at only 48%. Turning to slide eight, we continue to see our network performing very well even with heavier usage during the pandemic. Our broadband speed upgrades remain elevated up 70% year over year. These higher upgrade volumes continue to reflect enhanced connectivity needs from the switch to work from home and remote learning. Average monthly data usage per customer was up 40% year-over-year, averaging approximately 468 gigabits per customer per month in Q4. And our broadband-only customers used nearly 600 gigabits of data per month. 41% of our gross additions took one gig broadband speeds in areas where it was available, up from 29% in third quarter. And we remain very optimistic about the one gig opportunity. Following the commercial launch of our Fiverr double and triple play offerings in third quarter, I'm very pleased to say our Fiverr selling rates are already at 58%, up from 44% in the third quarter, ending the year with just under 26,000 customers and representing an enormous growth and cost-saving opportunity. Additionally, two-thirds of our Fiverr gross ads are taking the one gig product, which is higher than the proportion of customers taking one gig on our HFC plans, representing a great opportunity to differentiate our fiber offering and increase our revenue. To summarize, we are very pleased with our network performance and remain focused on continuously monitoring and upgrading our network to support demand. Turning to slide nine, the completion of one gig availability across 100% of the optimal footprint earlier in 2020 increased our opportunity to continue to upsell customers to higher broadband speed tiers. Our one big customer penetration increased to 7.8% in Q4, up from 5.7% in Q3. Our average download speeds have more than doubled in the past three years to 283 megabits. We ended the year with over 55% of our base still only taking broadband speeds of 200 megabits or less, which represents a meaningful opportunity for us to continue to deliver faster speeds to our customers. Turning to slide 10, we wanted to remind you once more of our long-term network strategy. In 2020, we were able to meaningfully accelerate our organic homes past growth to the highest ever level and bolted on additional homes with the acquisition of Service Electric. We are extremely committed to expanding our footprint organically and or inorganically on a go-forward basis as a key growth driver. Our build plans include a combination of accelerating our new build deployment, particularly around the edges of the Sunling footprint, and fill-ins in the Optimum footprint, with the goal being over 150,000 new homes constructed in 2021, and with further acceleration from there. Remember, we hit approximately 40% penetration within 12 months of arriving in a new market, a very positive result. We are also continuing to upgrade about 400,000 homes in the Sunling footprint through full upgrades of RF equipment, including new amplifiers and additional node splits to be up to one gig capable. Finally, we continue to advance our fiber to the home plan ending 2020 with about 1 million homes passed ready for service. Compared to our average one gig selling of 41%, two thirds of our fiber customers are taking one gig. We are confident that accelerating fiber deployment gives us many opportunities to deliver not only CapEx and OpEx efficiencies, but drive long-term top line growth as well. On slide 11, turning to business services, we saw resilience in both our SMB and light path businesses during this time, and still achieved full year and fourth quarter adjusted revenue growth. Business services revenue grew 2.3% year over year in 2020, excluding RSN installed credits, or up plus 1.8% on a reported basis. In the fourth quarter, Reported business services revenue was flat or up 0.6% adjusted for RSN and storm credits. As we previously flagged, the lower customer growth in the earlier part of 2020 following the lockdown did lead to a slowdown in revenue growth from our usual 4% to 5% range and is likely to remain at this lower level for 2021 as sales and install activity remain relatively subdued before re-accelerating into 2022. However, we are seeing some unique growth opportunities during this time from corporations rethinking their real estate needs and upgrading connectivity at their corporate headquarters to increase demand for remote learning. In Q4, we also completed the sale of a minority stake in a LightPath fiber enterprise business to Morgan Stanley Infrastructure Partners and are excited to have appointed a new dedicated management team to accelerate LightPath's growth. In the SMB space, although we are seeing vacancies and some ongoing uncertainty regarding the pandemic, we are seeing strong activity through our call center and e-commerce channels, as well as ongoing demand for higher-speed tiers. Turning to our news and advertising business on slide 12, we are extremely pleased to report full-year revenue growth up 9.1% year-over-year and down only 3.3%, excluding political. In Q4, we posted revenue growth of up 29.7% year-over-year in Q4, or up 3.5% excluding political, compared to a decline of 6.6% in Q3, a clear improvement sequentially. In addition to the boost from political, which was peaked in October, we saw continued recovery in local advertising for the pandemic-related trough in Q2, including after the November elections when linear spot inventory became more readily available. We continue to benefit from positive viewership trends with a 90% increase in Shutter website traffic year-over-year and 112% increase in users year-over-year. News 12 TV viewership is up 6% on a year-over-year basis. While there was some negative impact in shifting collegiate sports schedules, sports and ancillary sectors recovered in the fourth quarter as did autos and programmer tune in spend with new season launches we anticipate this recovery to continue into 2021 and remain cautiously optimistic about our news and advertising business turning to our mobile business on slide 13 we remain pleased with our performance after our full year of service we see ongoing momentum with our new tiered data plans of two-thirds of our gross ads now taking our one gig and three gig plans at the end of 2020. The top priority for our mobile business is an ongoing focus on profitability, and we continue to refine our plans based on that target and broader market environment. We are also pleased to announce that as of the end of January, approximately 90% of our devices have been migrated to the new T-Mobile network, delivering a premium network experience. We have already seen a reduction in drop calls of about 15% since prior to the migration, an encouraging trend. This is another step towards our greater goal of continuing to improve customer service and broadening our product offerings, including the expansion of our handset lineup and launching our 5G service. About 40% of our retail stores remain closed, which continues to impact our volumes. However, we still managed to reach 3.6% penetration as a percentage of our total unique residential customer base. To summarize, we remain excited about the opportunity for further growth and churn reduction from bundling with our cable offerings. And with that, I'll turn this over to Mike to discuss the financials in more detail.
spk12: Mike Pazin- Thank you, Dexter, and good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for joining us. We certainly hope everyone's doing well. I'd like to start by spending a minute highlighting our EBITDA growth trajectory on slide 14. In Q4, we grew adjusted EBITDA 6.1 percent year over year, or 5.8 percent year over year, excluding mobile, since we lapped the launch of this business just over a year ago. a very strong result to cap off an unusual year. In the quarter, we had an additional impact of approximately $9 million to adjusted EBITDA due to the hurricanes. Excluding mobile and excluding storms, we grew EBITDA 6.6% year-over-year. We continue to benefit from a combination of strong customer growth and cost efficiencies and remain very confident in our ability to continue to grow EBITDA in 2021. We also feel very good about our opportunity to continue to drive further margin expansion in our business, which I'll turn to now on slide 15. On slide 15, you can see we posted an adjusted EBITDA margin of 45.4 percent in Q4, up 150 basis points year-over-year. Some of this margin improvement in the quarter was driven by the pass-through adjustment from the decrease in revenue and the commensurate decrease in programming costs for RSN credits due to expected rebates from sports programmers. Excluding those RSN credits, adjusted EBITDA margins would have been 45.1%, still up 120 basis points year-over-year. Excluding mobile EBITDA losses, our 4Q EBITDA margin was 46.5% or 46.3% further adjusted for RSN credits, compared to 45.0% a year ago for a 130 basis point improvement year-over-year. NEQ-4 Our EBITDA-less CapEx operating free cash flow margin of 31.8% was up 100 basis points year-over-year due to a combination of EBITDA margin growth and lighter CapEx due to some delays in fiber permits. Turning to slide 16, we underspent on CapEx this year relative to prior years with full year spending under $1.1 billion. Our capital intensity was 10.9% for the full year, But without fiber and new home build growth investment, this would have been 8.7 percent. As I referenced earlier, we were impacted by permitting delays due to the pandemic, but are focused on re-accelerating all of our network initiatives. We will continue to invest in our network, anticipating that we will see permanent changes in consumption behaviors across much of our customer base. We did have some one-time capital outlays in the third and fourth quarters to repair storm-related damages. including replacing a fiber ring in the Gulf Coast region, but this is now completed. For the next few years, as we build out fiber and optimum, we continue to think that we can comfortably operate in the $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion cash capex envelope and complete our various network upgrade and edge-out initiatives. Longer term, we think there remains significant opportunity for reduction in capital spending to below $1 billion annually, particularly once we are completed with our fiber upgrade in the optimal footprint. In summary, we continue to feel very good about the long-term potential of our network and deliver superior connectivity solutions to our customers at a reasonable cost. Slide 17 highlights the strength of our free cash flow generation in 2020, which grew 59 percent, or about $800 million year-over-year, to a total of $1.9 billion. This is our highest-ever level of annual free cash flow and almost double the level of 2017 when we IPO'd the business. The combination of higher free cash flow on a shrinking share base due to buybacks has enabled us to more than double free cash flow per share to $3.27 in 2020, up from $1.53 in 2017. We achieved this record free cash flow through a combination of top-line growth and disciplined cost management, as well as lighter-than-anticipated capex from the temporary slowdown in our Fiber bill due to permitting delays during the pandemic. In 2020, we paid just over $80 million in cash taxes. As I've mentioned in the past, we expect to become close to a full federal cash taxpayer this year in 2021, which should bring our total cash tax payments to about $400 million in 21. Although we expect higher taxes and CapEx to step up as we re-accelerate the Fiber bills in 2021, We also expect growth in EBITDA and savings from refinancing activity to partially offset the impact of free cash flow year-over-year. Turning to slide 18, Q4 was also a very strong quarter of free cash flow performance and contributed to the full-year strength that I just discussed. We generated $447 million in free cash flow in the third quarter, up 12.5% year-over-year. Our cash flows from financing activities include a $3 billion outlay related to our share repurchase program partially offset by proceeds from the LifePath transaction. On slide 19, we highlight our consistent track record of attractive capital returns to shareholders since Altice USA's IPO, cumulatively having delivered $9.3 billion in combined share repurchases and dividends. This past year, to take advantage of what we found to be a significantly undervalued share price, we repurchased a record $4.8 billion in shares, including a $2.3 billion tender offer we completed in December. Our share repurchases have allowed us to reduce our total shares outstanding by 35 percent since the IPO. Going forward, our capital allocation objectives remain unchanged. We remain opportunistic and plan to take advantage of the difference between our free cash flow yield and the low cost of debt to further repurchase additional shares given the current market conditions. We also remain interested in potential M&A opportunities to further expand our cable footprint. On slide 20, we provide an update on our interest rate savings initiatives. In 2020, our cash interest expense was just under what we spent in 2019, but we would have reported significantly more in year-over-year savings, except for double coupon payments in 2020 from the timing of some of our refinancing activities. However, our current run rate implies that we expect to realize nearly $200 million in additional cash interest savings relative to 2019. And zooming out, we're very happy to illustrate that since 2017, we have realized approximately $550 million in cumulative annual interest savings. In 2020, we refinanced $4.4 billion in debt. In June, we refinanced $1.1 billion of guaranteed 5.38% notes to 4.18% guaranteed notes, and $625 million of 7.75% unsecured notes to new 4.58% 10-year unsecured notes. And in August, we refinanced $1.7 billion of 10.78% notes via an add-out offering to our 4.58% unsecured notes priced in June for an effective yield of 4.16%. Also in August, we refinanced $1 billion of 6 and 5 eighth percent senior guaranteed notes into a new 10 and a half year note and achieved a record low coupon of 3 and 3 eighths percent. We achieved a 4.3 percent cost of debt by financing an additional $1.46 billion for the LifePath transaction. And this further lowered our total cost of borrowing to 4.7 percent, down from 5.9 percent last year. As of year-end 2020, our total company leverage on an L2QA basis was 5.4 times, and leverage for the CSC holdings debt silo was 5.3 times on the same basis. In 2021, we have additional opportunities to refinance at least another $2.5 billion in debt, which we plan to do opportunistically based on market conditions. The strength of our balance sheet can also be demonstrated by reference to our maturity schedule. We have no annual bond maturities greater than $1 billion before 2025, all of which could be covered by either free cash flow generation or our revolver. As further evidence of the strength of our balance sheet, Standard & Poor's announced last night that they have placed their rating on Altice USA on credit watch positive for a potential upgrade to our credit ratings. We will continue to proactively manage our liabilities in the same way going forward, and we remain extremely comfortable with the strength and resilience of our balance sheet. In 2020, despite market volatility and throughout the whole pandemic, we have still been able to refinance debt at advantageous rates to secure future savings with short payback periods. Finally, on slide 21, we provide our financial outlook for 2021. But before doing so, I want to recap that in 2020, we delivered against all the financial guidance targets that we set. managing to grow revenue 2.6% adjusted for storms and RSN credits, and we grew EBITDA by 4.1% adjusted for storms. We ended 2020 with cash capex of just $1.1 billion, lower than expected due to fiber permitting delays. After share repurchases of $4.8 billion, we ended the year with leverage of 5.3 times net debt to last two quarters annualized EBITDA at CSE Holdings LLC. For 2021, We continue to expect to grow both revenue and EBITDA. We acknowledge ongoing uncertainty from the pandemic, but also feel confident that we can continue to deliver solid top and bottom line growth, as we demonstrated during a very strong 2020. We expect cash capex to step back into the $1.3 to $1.4 billion envelope, which we have long discussed spending annually during our FIRA bills. We expect to naturally delever through EBITDA growth and repurchase $1.5 billion in shares this year. To conclude, I do want to echo Dexter's remarks and take a moment to thank the LTC USA team for a fantastic 2020 and reiterate that we are incredibly well positioned for 2021. And with that, we will now take any questions.
spk00: As a reminder, to ask a question, you'll need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash key. Please stand by. We compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Phil Cusick from J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
spk04: Hey, guys. Thanks. Maybe start with some revenue drivers. Broadband ads you're guiding to, I think, still better than the 18-19 run rate. Help us understand the confidence there. And I know you talked about some of the build-out plans, but just take us through that again, please.
spk14: Sure. Hey, Phil. Listen, you know, we – 18 and 19 were in kind of that 70,000 to 80,000 broadband net ads. So we feel really good about those numbers and being able to do at least as well, if not better. You talked a little bit about our CapEx plans. We historically have been delivering about 100,000 to 125,000 over the last couple of years of new homes built. We expect that number to hit 150,000 and hopefully more this year as we ramp that up. And then that will accelerate to 2022 and 2023. On top of that, we've got 400,000 Suddenlink homes out of 750,000, 800,000 that we want to upgrade. The ones that we're first upgrading are very under-penetrated, where in many respects we're providing broadband speeds of less than 100 megabits in those areas. And so we're freeing up a lot of capacity to upgrade those, and those will get done probably throughout the year up until the Q3. So we expect to see some good activity on those subscribers. And then lastly, on the fiber to the home, we continue to see very, very good activity there. As you see, our selling rates are two-thirds, one gig. The fiber product is starting to get some good traction in terms of market share and will continue to accelerate that growth. I think the other thing to just take a step back is as we – spoke about in previous quarters, only about 25% of our activity in our footprint is in the Fios zones, right? So we have discovered a brand new zone, which is the non-Fios optimum zone, where we saw a tremendous amount of activity in the Q2, Q3, Q4 timeframe. And the suddenly footprint continues to be under-penetrated and showing very, very good growth on the broadband of that. So all of those things put together, a little bit of capex here, a little bit of upgrade there, a little bit of fiber there, some renewed zones where we're seeing a lot of increased activity, plus the continued outperformance of the suddenly footprint from a penetration standpoint really makes us feel good about 2021 and onwards on our broadband subscribers.
spk04: That's helpful. Thanks. If I can just dial out for one last quick one. I know the outlook is for growth in revenue and EBITDA this year. Do you think that the business can grow better than the 2.6 and 4.1 sort of normalized numbers in 2020?
spk14: It's, well, you know, we're cautious only because you just don't know what's going to happen in the advertising market, which, number one, we're going to lose about $60 million in of advertising revenue, 60, 70 million of political advertising revenue this year, given how big 2020 was on the political side, which was a lot bigger than historically it's been in political years. We expect the news and advertising business to be pretty much flat, which would be a fantastic result, which means we're taking up that 60 to 70 million of political revenue that we're losing, and we're getting it from somewhere else. So You know, I think we're just being cautious on that. Can we get back to, you know, 2.5% and 4% even down growth? I think we can, absolutely. I just think, I think from a guidance standpoint, Phil, we want to be cautious here on news and advertising. Also on the SMB side, as we just don't know how the next kind of, you know, few quarters are going to roll out on the SMB side. But on the residential side, we're seeing, you know, back to business, continued very good activity in January and February. So I think we feel good about the guidance, obviously, given it's conservative. But I just don't want to pinpoint ourselves at this point. Thanks, Pastor. That helps.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Craig Moffitt from Moffitt & Nathanson. Your line is open.
spk05: Hi. Let's turn to your buybacks for a minute. You made the, in I think it was October, you made the bid for Cogeco and Atlantic Broadband. And I presume you've been looking for other acquisition targets. I wonder if you could just talk about that search a little bit and what you're thinking is now with respect to potentially finding other targets. And is it appropriate to read the pace at which you were buying back shares as an acknowledgement that there just aren't willing sellers out there at the moment?
spk14: Listen, Craig, we definitely want to go out there and find attractive MVPDs to acquire, right? Just focusing on our residential business. I would say that there is a handful of smaller operators that are available to acquire um we we eliminate a lot of them given for other geographic reasons or for competitive reasons and uh narrow it down to to a couple that we find very attractive right so um you know the the bite size service electric uh type of acquisitions are very attractive uh for us so we'll continue to to do that hopefully we'll we'll be able to um to unlock one of those this year, if not more. But we'll continue to try to unlock as many of those as possible. But yes, in the absence of doing attractive M&A, the best use of our capital right now for us is to continue to buy back shares. We continue to see a high single-digit free cash flow yield this year. And we're financing our debt at the kind of 3%, 3.5% level. So We're still seeing a very good 500 to 600 base point spread. We are cognizant of taking down our leverage back down to the four and a half to five times. So that'll naturally occur with the EBITDA growth. But we'd like to redeploy our capital to the extent that we don't have M&A to buy to buying back shares. If something like an Atlantic broadband comes to sale or anything even of larger size than that, we definitely continue to believe that M&A is the best use of our capital if anything's available.
spk08: Thank you.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Doug Mitchelson from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
spk11: Oh, thanks so much. Question for Dexter. Sticking on the broadband theme from earlier, I just want to make sure we sort of fully flush this out any change in competitor behavior that you're seeing or responding to, any sort of commentary on churn and non-pay disconnect trends. And then lastly, the first quarter historically has been the biggest quarter for broadband net ads. And you mentioned in your formal remarks that it might be a little bit more back-end weighted this year because of the timing of the build-outs and growth initiatives that you talked about is Is this a year where we should expect 1Q isn't sort of seasonally the strongest quarter because of the dynamics we're talking about COVID trends flowing through? Or is it normal but still stronger in the back half of the year? Thanks.
spk14: Yeah, I think from a competitive standpoint, you know, we are always, it's seasonal, right? So that question I think we get asked pretty regularly. And the standard operating answer is we don't really see any change because they don't, you know, promotional, competitive promotional offers don't last for long periods of time. You know, specifically in our optimum Fios footprint, we did see, you know, very aggressive tactics from Fios as they were offsides for a little bit of time, given that they were not installing, I believe, in the second quarter of the year. But other than that, it was pretty normal across the board. We haven't seen anything substantive from a competitive standpoint. Same thing with the non-pay disconnects. Nothing out of the ordinary. The whole kind of, let's call it mess related to the pandemic situation with the FCC pledge, the New Jersey executive order, the new altered New Jersey executive order, and three storms that hit three different areas of our footprint creates a little bit of a mess from following seasonal trends and accounting and those types of things. But I don't think we see anything in particular out there that makes me anything concerned around our targets for 2021 in terms of broadband and ads We clearly expect to meet or beat our historical numbers pre-2020. And in terms of Q1, Q1 is pretty much going to be, for us, a pretty ordinary Q1. It is very much more back-ended, but we're not seeing anything abnormal in January and February to date relative to our historical numbers, obviously pre-COVID historical numbers, because March was a blowout last quarter in 2020. And we saw obviously renewed activity through Q2 and the beginning of Q3 that makes the comparisons very difficult. But yeah, we will see a little bit more back ended this year, given the build outs and the continued investment in the network. All right.
spk11: Thanks so much.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rowlands from Citi. Your line is open.
spk02: Thanks and good afternoon. Two questions if I could. First, just in terms of the guidance for adjusted EBITDA growth versus revenue growth, is there a spread that you would suggest that EBITDA growth could grow faster than revenue in 2021? And then, you know, secondly, just curious how you're approaching the video business with respect to the pricing strategy and what impact that can have on subscriber and video revenue performances as you think about 2021. Thanks.
spk14: Yeah, listen, on spread, I sure hope so there's a spread between revenue and EBITDA growth for sure. You know, we've been trending Historically, I don't know, 200 basis points maybe. It depends on the year, 200, 300 basis points difference between the two. I don't think there would be anything different. Obviously, with the mix shift that's occurring in the industry from video to broadband, it gets a little bit skewed in terms of some of the historical trends depending on what's happening on the video side. But by and large, I think that's a probably good rule of thumb with us, you know, 200 to 300 basis points spread, maybe more, maybe less, depending on the year. On the video strategy, listen, you know, we continue to be focused on profitability. The attachment rates, as you know, have fallen in the industry, and particularly with us, given that we had a very high penetration of video attachments in the opt-in footprint. So, you know, we're seeing attachment rates two years ago that were close to 60% in our bundles, and now it's closer to 40%, right? So we're losing unprofitable subscribers or not signing up unprofitable subscribers, which is great, but continuing to maintain a very keen focus on our very attractive and profitable subscribers that have been with us for more than three to five years. But in terms of pricing, you know, I think we continue to provide the bundle. We continue to focus very much on the broadband of ads. And we continue to focus on being profitable on the video business. So, you know, the gross ad video business is something that we are less excited about. And so we're not that much focused on that product as much through the bundle. And on trends, I think we lost about 7%-ish points in video subs this year in 2020. I suspect we're on the same rate in 2021. Thank you.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of John Hoduk from UBS. Your line is open.
spk10: Okay, thanks. Yeah, just a quick question on the mobile strategy. Is this a good run rate in terms of the growth you're seeing there. And then could you give us an update on, you know, your expectations for profitability in that segment? Thanks.
spk14: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, we are, we're focused very much on a profitable mobile business. I think we've said that regularly. If you look at our EBITDA minus CapEx loss relative to our peers and adjusted for size, we're significantly more, we've lost a lot less money, let's call it, than our peers. And we're going to continue to try and lose a lot less money. We could obviously spend a lot of money on media spend and marketing to go out there and push the growth. I think we want to make sure that we continue to push profitable growth. And so as you look at our focus, our one gig and our three gig product is actually penetrating very well. right now. And so, you know, those are very profitable products. And so we're going to continue to push that. We're going to open up more retail stores. We're going to invest in more media. So we're going to do that cautiously and making sure that we're doing it and pushing profitable products all the time. which that gets down to when do we think we're EBITDA break-even. I think sometime towards the end of next year, we should be EBITDA break-even in terms of the business on a monthly basis.
spk10: Got it. Thanks, sir.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Brett Feldman from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
spk03: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Your optimism that you'll be able to deploy your full CapEx budget this year, are you actually at the point where you are seeing the permitting process back up to speed or is it ramping up to speed? And then if you are unable to deploy that full amount of capital this year because of the same logistical headwinds, What do you do to favor that excess money? Last year, obviously, buybacks was the next thing on the list. Is that still the next thing on the list, or are you going to be a little more balanced with maybe de-levering? Thank you.
spk14: Listen, I think we are on the CapEx deployment. We're full steam ahead on ramping up the fiber side, and, you know, that is focused on the Fios zones and some – some non-file zones, which are very wealthy areas. And that's trending very well. So we're not seeing the inability on the permit side in the optimum footprint. And on the edge outs as well, we're well on track to building up that steam on that. So I'm feeling good about the ability to deploy the capital today in this environment. and so um hopefully we are able to spend that one three to one four that we've been talking about if we don't spend it um i understand uh that leverage looks from a multiple standpoint you know a little bit above five um as something that people would like us to take down but we still believe our stock is still continues to be very very cheap And so I suspect that we'll redeploy that capital buyback stock as opposed to deleveraging. I think we'll take all of our free cash flow and buyback stock for the year, ex-M&A. Thank you.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Benjamin Swinburne from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk07: Thank you. Good afternoon. I guess, Dexter, does that mean you expect $1.5 billion of free cash flow in 2021? Just to follow up on your last comment. Guidance is conservative, Ben. Yeah, I guess the key point there, right, as you guys know, I just wanted to confirm have cash taxes in 21, right? I think you guys had talked about 400 or something million. I think that's right.
spk14: So we have probably about, let's call it 300 million more of taxes. We have a couple hundred million more of capex. Then you've got EBITDA growth and you've got interest savings of a couple hundred million, right? So You put that all in the mixer and you come up with your free cash flow number.
spk07: Cool. My questions were actually just around Thinking about the sort of cadence through the year, I just wanted to confirm, as you guys get into Q3 and Q4, you should be benefiting from lapping the RSN rebates and the storm credits. So we should see residential revenue growth. That should be pretty healthy and maybe your highest quarters of growth in the back half. So I wanted to make sure we had that right with obviously the natural programming cost offset on the RSN front.
spk14: Yeah, on a reported revenue basis year over year, we should start seeing in Q3 and Q4 just a natural accounting bump, right?
spk07: Yep. Okay. And then just one more, if I can. I think you guys historically have had a pretty nice political benefit from the New York mayor race, which is, I think, this year. Is that something that you think could be a source of potential upside as you think about just political spending and there's a lot of people running and maybe get you guys to grow that revenue line this year? Yeah. I mean, we didn't.
spk14: You raise a good point because there's a lot of money going into New York mayor race. You know, when we were budgeting this, that really hadn't kicked off. So maybe there is some upside there. You know, I'm hopeful Andrew Yang and all the money he has just comes and spends a ton of money. But, you know, the real mayor race happens in June during the primaries. So whoever wins the primary wins the mayor, the Democratic primary. So I believe it's in June. And for those of you who haven't registered, I believe you have to register for the Democratic primary by now, this weekend, I think, things like February 14th, something like that. If you're not registered as a Democratic voter in the New York primary, you're not voting in June. Important PSA, so thank you. Important PSA, exactly. I've been reminded by several candidates to tell people to go out there, get ready to vote, but, you know, that the real vote is in June. Right, right.
spk07: Great. Thank you very much.
spk00: Your next question comes from the line of Kenan Venkateshwar from Barclays. Your line is open.
spk08: Thank you. So, Dexter, I guess I just wanted to hone in a little bit more on this revenue growth algorithm that you laid out, roughly in that 2.5% kind of a range. If you look at it over the last maybe four, five-year period, I think in the early part of that period, a bigger part of the growth came from residential. But more recently, when we look at the contribution of residential to growth, that's dropped off a little bit, and other segments have picked it up. When you look at that, I think historically you guys have done about 1.5% unit growth and 1.5% pricing growth to get to that roughly 2% to 3% kind of a growth algorithm in residential. So could you help us think through what that algorithm looks like specifically for residential as you look at this year as well as more of a medium-term outlook? Yeah.
spk14: I'm sure that my friends Nick and Mike can take you offline and walk you through this, but just from a high-level standpoint, the one thing that's difficult here is obviously the whole video side to it. You know, that algorithm was very easy on rate versus volume to do. Now the whole rate side is a little bit skewed because of how video is performing and where you're losing the revenue on video. So where we obviously see maybe a headline slowdown on B2C revenue, we're seeing unbelievable amount of increased profitability coming from B2C. So the algorithm is a little bit trickier that way to get your arms around. But today, assuming that the same kind of 2.5% number is what you're looking for, 2.5% to 3%, you know we're really starting to see um more of it we're expecting to come from volume than it is coming from rate uh historically before 2020 you would have seen a lot more of that three percent skew more like two percent rate two to two and a half percent rate and zero to zero and a half percent from volume and we're really looking going forward at a more equilibrium and a lot more volume waiting in there. Got it. Does that make any sense?
spk08: That's helpful. Thank you, Dexter.
spk00: The next question comes from the mind of Andrew Beale from Arate Research. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, you touched on some of the growth opportunities across the footprint, and I was just wondering if you could give us a bit more background on the broadband penetration levels and increases in penetration you're seeing in what I guess are the four main buckets, which are slow southern link versus fast southern link, if I can call it that, as well as non-fias optimum versus fias optimum, and then perhaps with the fias optimum areas, what difference do you find as you start actually marketing FTTH?
spk14: Yeah, I mean, Andrew, that's a great question. I mean, basically, if you take maybe a step back where we're seeing, let's call it broadband gross ads, right, and uncouple it that way, you're basically seeing about half-half between optimum and suddenly. But the key thing here is you're only seeing 25% of it in file zones in terms of our broadband gross ads. So 75% of it is coming from non-file zones. And where you historically would have seen it more like optimum was one-third of our volume and two-thirds coming from Sunlink, it's much more now equal because of the non-file zones on optimum are very, very active areas today when they have historically been a lot less active. And so that's kind of one of the backdrops that we're seeing. The second is, you know, the numbers in the Sunlink zones have skyrocketed in terms of net ads coming from there. I think it's relative to 2019, we probably have almost a 300% increase coming from the Sunlink footprint in net ads. um that should give you some some some backdrop in terms of what the activity is so less activity in the file zones and a lot more activities in non-file zones than historically and just in absolute explosion in the suddenly footprint okay no that's that's very helpful and and as you market ftth i mean can you make the difference in the files optimum zones Yeah, I think listen, you know, we we are we're a ping pong match between files and us over the last three, four years, it's, you know, plus or minus 10,000 every year. And that adds, and that really doesn't change. And what we what we love about the FTTH product is we're really starting to get great mindshare in those zones, we'll start marketing more aggressively as we start having bigger footprint there and start delivering a lot more homes. And we're starting to see, you know, people going straight up to symmetrical one gig, two-thirds selling, you know, when the network's already 10 gig ready effectively, right? So it's just a question of us pushing higher speeds if we want to. And with the overall backdrop of our entire footprint, 55% of our subscribers are still taking 200 megs or less, right? So we feel really good about about the fiber project. We've always talked about it as a cost and capex savings exercise. We're starting to see the real benefits, also early benefits of a revenue exercise as well. They're going to be very fruitful, we believe.
spk01: Okay, thank you. And can I just sneak one last one in on the, as you've migrated the mobile to T-Mobile? Are there any material differences in the MVNO agreement aside from the longer term that we should think about?
spk14: Not yet. Not yet. We're working on it with them. We clearly would like to do more with T-Mobile. So I think there's a lot of things that we're talking about. OK. Thank you.
spk00: Our last question comes from the line of Frank Luthain from Raymond James. Your line is open.
spk09: Yeah, just wanted to touch base on some of the regulatory issues. How would you view the return of Title II and possibly price regulation in terms of your capital budget? Would you adjust your capital budget if any regulation is brought back in that regard?
spk14: Yeah, I mean, I can't say for sure how we would react. I don't think anyone today sees the possibility of price regulation. I think everyone talks about potentially Title II being, you know, reclassified as Title II as a possibility. But, you know, to the extent that we are disincentivized to be spending money and getting the right capital returns on it, I suspect we may reallocate capital. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable equation. I just can't tell you that that's what we would do because... We don't know what it could look like.
spk09: All right, great. Thank you very much.
spk00: That's all the time we have for questions today. I'll turn the call back over to Nick Brown.
spk13: Thank you, everyone, for joining. Do let us know if you have any follow-up questions. Otherwise, we look forward to catching up with you in the next few weeks. Thank you for joining.
spk00: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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