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10/22/2024
and welcome to Atlantic Union Bank Shares' third quarter 2024 earnings call and Sandy Spring Bank acquisition announcement. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Bill Cimino, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Michelle, and good morning, everyone. I have Atlantic Union Bank Shares President and CEO John Asbury and Executive Vice President and CFO Rob Gorman with me today. We also have Sandy Spring Bank Corp Chairman, President, and CEO Dan Schreider on the call, who will join us in discussing our merger announced earlier today. Other members of our executive management team will be here for the question and answer period. Please note that today's releases and the accompanying slide presentations are available to download on our investor website, investors.AtlanticUnionBank.com. During today's call, we will comment on our financial performance using both GAAP metrics and non-GAAP financial measures. Important information about these non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures, is included in the appendix to our slide presentation and in our earnings release for the third quarter of 2024. We will make forward looking statements on today's call which are not statements of historical fact and are subject to risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that any actual performance will not differ materially from any future expectations or results expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. We undertake no obligation to publicly revise or update any forward looking statement. Please refer to our earnings release and our other SEC filings for further discussion of the company's risk factors and other important information regarding our forward-looking statements, including factors that could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in a forward-looking statement. All comments made during today's call are subject to that safe harbor statement. At the end of the call, we will take questions from the research analyst community, and now I'll turn the call over to John. Thank you, Bill. Good morning, everyone. Today we're excited to announce the merger of Atlantic Union Bank shares with Olney, Maryland-based Sandy Spring Bank Corp. Sandy Spring is a $14.4 billion asset bank with an exceptional 156-year history and an impeccable asset quality track record in attractive, contiguous markets. This is a highly respected Maryland bank and, in our view, a historic franchise. Among the oldest in America, it has grown from a Maryland community bank to the largest independent bank in Maryland. This is exactly what Atlantic Union Bank has done in Virginia. We believe it's a hand-in-glove fit for two great neighboring franchises that have been on similar paths with similar cultures and a similar customer and community focus. We are eager to share our thoughts on this announcement and why we believe it improves each company's shareholder value proposition and ability to serve our customers and communities. I will do so after Rob and I provide abbreviated comments on Q3 results for Atlantic Union. It was a good quarter for Atlantic Union with less noise than the prior quarter, which makes for an easier and shorter conversation about our results. So let's begin. As you recall, during the second quarter, we closed our acquisition of Danville, Virginia-based American National Bank and completed our systems conversion over Memorial Day weekend. We did not have the second quarter's merger-related items impacting our results during the third quarter, and we believe our post-merger core earnings power is now on full display. On a linked quarter annualized basis, our deposit base grew 6.1% and averaged up 2.8%. Linked quarter annualized loan growth in the seasonally slow third quarter was relatively flat, ending down 0.2%, though averaged up 3.6%. Loan growth was impacted by clients waiting for the well-telegraphed Federal Reserve rate cuts to begin in September, and we also experienced a pickup in commercial real estate payoffs. We had lower line utilization during the quarter as some larger commercial clients paid down. Overall, we were pleased to stay relatively flat in loan balances at quarter end despite these headwinds. Increased commercial real estate payoffs were something we expected following the dip in treasury bond yields during the quarter and were a combination of institutional non-recourse refinances and property sales. This indicates there's liquidity in the commercial real estate markets, which is encouraging. Also, as a reminder, we're continuing to wind down our indirect auto portfolio, which reduced our loan balances by approximately $42 million during the quarter. Our commercial banking pipelines are healthy, leading us to believe that we will be in a moderate growth mode for the rest of 2024. Having said that, we believe there is a backlog of commercial real estate payoffs coming, and that may mute what might otherwise be even stronger loan growth. Credit was again a good story as we recorded annualized net charge-offs of one basis point for the third quarter, down from four basis points in the second quarter. This is now my eighth year anniversary at the company, and for eight years each quarter, I have said we have yet to see any sign of a systemic inflection point in our asset quality metrics, which remain benign. And I'll say that again today. While we continue to expect a normalization in asset quality at some point following a long run of minimal net charge-offs, we remain confident in and are pleased with our asset quality. As always, we are focused on delivering top-tier financial performance, and you can see improvements in our adjusted return on tangible common equity, return on assets, and efficiency ratio. The quarter-over-quarter improvements show the earnings power we envisioned when we announced the acquisition of American National. We had good expense management, modest core net interest margin compression, and continued impressive asset quality trends. We believe all of this serves as proof points. that our franchise remains strong and focused on generating positive operating leverage. We continue to see our performance as confirmation of our long-term strategy of being a diversified, traditional, full-service bank that makes a positive difference in our markets with a strong brand and deep client relationships. We provide economically beneficial services and financing to help people and help businesses and help our communities. It's a straightforward business model. It works and has withstood the test of time over our 122-year history. This is why soundness, profitability, and growth in that order of priority remain our mantra and informs how we run the company. In sum, it was a good quarter for Atlantic Union. We have completed the integration of American National and are excited about our increased presence in Central, Western, and Southern Virginia and our promising new North Carolina markets, which offer long-term growth and expansion potential. We reiterate that we believe we will achieve our planned cost savings from the American National acquisition and are positioned well to deliver top quartile results in the fourth quarter on an adjusted operating basis. I'll now turn the call over to Chief Financial Officer Rob Gorman to cover the financial results for the quarter before we get into the details of the transaction. Rob?
Well, thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Please note that for the most part, my commentary will focus on Atlantic Union's third quarter financial results on a non-GAAP adjusted operating basis, which excludes $1.4 million in pre-tax merger-related costs recorded in the third quarter. And the third quarter reported net income available to common shareholders was $73.4 million, and earnings per common share were 82 cents. Adjusted operating earnings available to common shareholders were $74.5 million, or 83 cents per common share for the third quarter, which was an increase of 18.2 million, or 32.3% from the second quarter of 2024, and up $14.7 million, or 24.7% from the third quarter of 2023. The adjusted operating return on tangible common equity was 19.2% in the third quarter. The adjusted operating return on assets was 1.25% in third quarter. And on an adjusted operating basis, the efficiency ratio was relatively flat with the second quarter at 52.2%. As of the end of the third quarter, the total allowance for credit losses was $177.6 million, which represented 97 basis points as a percentage of total loans. The provision for credit losses of $2.6 million in the third quarter was down from the prior quarter's $21.8 million provision for credit losses, primarily driven by the prior quarter's inclusion of the initial provision for credit losses on non-PCD loans and unfunded commitments acquired from American National of $14.6 million, as well as by lower net charge-offs and lower loan growth in the third quarter. That charge-off decreased to approximately $700,000, or one basis point annualized in the third quarter from 1.7 million or four basis points annualized in the second quarter. The year-to-date net charge-off ratio was six basis points on an annualized basis. Now turning to pre-tax, pre-provision components of the income statement for the third quarter, tax equivalent net interest income was $186.8 million, which was down approximately $1.5 million or less than 1% from the second quarter, primarily due to the hike Higher interest expense on interest-bearing deposits partially offset by increased interest income on loans held for investment and lower borrowing costs. Interest expense on interest-bearing deposits increased as a result of $299 million in higher average balances through primarily the growth in customer time deposits. Interest income on loans held for investment increased as a result of $165.54 million in higher average loan balances during the quarter and increased loan yields partially offset by lower loan accretion income of $1.7 million. Borrowing costs were lower during the third quarter as a result of decreased wholesale funding usage due to customer deposit growth. The third quarter's tax equivalent net interest margin was 3.38%, a net decrease of eight basis points from the previous quarter, which was due to a four basis point impact from lower fair value accretion on acquired loans a two basis point net increase on the core earnings assets yield, and a six basis point increase in the cost of funds. The six basis point increase in third quarters cost of funds to 2.56% was due to the net impact of higher deposit costs and lower borrowing costs. Deposit costs increased as a result of growth and mixed shift into higher yielding deposit products, which had a negative 11 basis point impact on the cost of funds. The cost of funds was positively impacted by five basis points due to lower borrowing costs as a result of decreased wholesale funding usage. The two basis point decline in the third quarter earning asset yield was primarily due to lower yields on securities and loan increase in income partially offset by the positive impact of loan growth and an increase in core loan portfolio yields. There was a five basis point negative impact on the securities portfolio and earnings asset mix due to lower balances and the impact of lower unrealized losses on AFS securities yields from the decline in market rates during the third quarter. The loan portfolio yield increased to 6.35% in the third quarter from 6.34% in the second quarter, which is due to the net impact of new loans originated at higher than current portfolio rates, partially offset by the impacts of the decrease in average short-term interest rates during the quarter and the impact of lower fair value accretion on acquired loans, which had a four basis point negative impact on the loan yield. Non-interest income increased $10.5 million to $34.3 million for the third quarter of 2024, primarily due to the $6.5 million pre-tax loss on the sale of available for sale securities in the prior quarter. Adjusted operating non-interest income, which excludes losses and gains on a sale of securities, increased $4 million to $34.3 million for the third quarter from $30.3 million in the prior quarter, primarily driven by a $1.9 million increase in other operating income, due to an increase in equity method investment income, a $1.2 million increase in bank-owned life insurance income, primarily driven by death benefits received in the third quarter, and a $706,000 seasonal increase in service charges on deposits. Non-insurance expenses decreased $27.4 million to $122.6 million for the third quarter. Adjusted operating non-insurance expenses excludes merger-related costs of $1.4 million in the third quarter and $29.2 $8 million in the second quarter, and amortization of intangible assets of $5.8 million in the third quarter and $6 million in the second quarter increased $1.2 million to $115.4 million for the third quarter from $114.2 million from the prior quarter, primarily driven by a $923,000 increase in salaries and benefits due to increases in variable incentive compensation expenses and full-time equivalent employees. as well as a $607,000 increase in FDIC assessment premiums triggered by an increase in our assessment base as a result of the American National Acquisition. These increases were partially offset by a $537,000 decline in technology and data processing expenses. At period end, loans held for investments totaled $18.3 billion, which was a decrease of approximately $10 million or 20 basis points annualized from the prior quarter. Construction and land development loans increased $134 million as ongoing construction projects continued to fund up, but commercial industrial loans decreased by $145 million as a result of loan pay downs and lower revolving credit line usage. At the end of September, total loss deposits stood at $20.3 million And that's an increase of $304 million, or approximately 6.1% annualized from the prior quarter, which is primarily due to increases in interest-bearing customer deposits and broker deposits, partially offset by declines in demand deposits. At the end of the third quarter, non-interest-bearing demand deposits accounted for 22% of total deposits, down slightly from 23% in the prior quarter. At the end of the third quarter, Atlantic Union Bank shares and Atlantic Union Bank's regulatory capitals were well above well-capitalized levels. In addition, on a pro forma basis, we remain well-capitalized if you include the negative impact of AOCI and held to maturity securities unrealized losses in the calculation of the regulatory capital ratios. As noted on slide 13, we've updated our full year 2024 and fourth quarter financial outlook to the following. We expect loan balances to end the year between $18.5 billion and $19 billion, while year-end deposits balances are projected to be between $20 billion and $20.5 billion. Fully taxable equivalent net interest income for the full year is projected to come in between $720 million and $725 million. And we are targeting the fourth quarter fully taxed equivalent net interest income run rate to fall between $190 and $195 million. As a result, we are projecting that the full year fully taxable equivalent net interest margin will fall in the range between 3.35% 3.40 percent for the full year and we are targeting between 3.4 percent and 3.45 percent in the fourth quarter driven by our baseline assumption that the fed reserve bank will cut the fed funds rate by 25 basis points in november and december in addition the fully taxable equivalent net interest margin projection and target ranges include the impact of our estimate of net increasing income from american national which are volatile and subject to change the lower level of net interest income and net interest margin from the previous guidance provided during our second quarter earnings call is primarily due to the more aggressive 50 basis point decline in the Fed funds rate in September. We had assumed a reduction of 25 basis points. Also, significantly lower term rates, which impacts fixed rate new and renewed loan yields, as well as a reduction in the amount of accretion interest income projected in the fourth quarter. On a four-year basis, adjusted operating non-interest income expected to fall between $120 and $125 million, and we are targeting the fourth quarter adjusted operating non-interest income run rate to fall between $30 and $35 million. Adjusted operating non-interest expenses for the full year are estimated to fall in the range of $445 to $450 million, while the fourth quarter adjusted operating non-interest expense run rate we are targeting is expected to be between $115 and $120 million. In summary, Atlantic Union delivered strong financial results in the third quarter of 2024. As a result, we believe we are well positioned to continue to generate sustainable, profitable growth and to build long-term value for our shareholders in 2024 and beyond. We're now excited to turn our attention to provide you with the details of our merger announcement with Sandy Spring Bank Group. Thank you, Rob.
Now that we both hit the high points for the quarter, let's talk about the big news today, and that's our exciting partnership with Sandy Spring Bank. As noted on slide two, the forward-looking statements Bill covered at the beginning of this call still apply, and we'd like to note additional risks listed on the slide. As you can see on slides three and four, the merger will be addressed in a joint proxy statement of Sandy Spring and Atlantic Union and a prospectus of Atlantic Union to be filed with the SEC. We urge you to read it when it becomes available because it will contain important information. Information regarding the persons who may, under the rules of the SEC, be considered participants in the solicitation of Sandy Spring and Atlantic Union shareholders in connection with the proposed merger will be set forth in the proxy statement prospectus when it is filed with the SEC. Now, let me begin by saying we are thrilled. We are thrilled to partner with Sandy Spring. We've long admired the company and its team, and being neighbors, we know them well and have watched as Dan Schreider and his team have transformed a Maryland community bank into Maryland's bank. This is a strategy we recognize as we've done exactly the same here in Virginia. We admire Sandy Springs people, culture, customer focus, impeccable asset quality track record, and the important role they have played in their communities over their long 156-year history. We also respect their number one regional bank depository market share and in Maryland and the density of their franchise, which in our view means they are highly relevant to their markets. We share a common legacy with our own 122-year history and our highly compatible people-oriented culture. They are Maryland's bank, and we are Virginia's bank. Together, we are the Greater Washington Region's bank and, more broadly, the Lower Mid-Atlantic's bank. We both operate traditional banking models that have withstood the test of time. We each provide economically beneficial financing and services to help people, help businesses, and help our communities. I've said many times before that Atlantic Union strategy is intentional and not opportunistic. We'll now make the case for why this is so with this combination. You can see the resulting dense, compact franchise that at $39 billion becomes the largest regional bank in the Mid-Atlantic in assets with compelling financial returns that should position us firmly in the top quartile of pure banks. It's a formidable franchise that, in my opinion, will eclipse anything we've ever seen in this region. From our position as the preeminent regional bank of the lower Mid-Atlantic, our Virginia franchise will now become a linchpin that connects the powerful Mid-Atlantic franchise to the Southeast, where we plan to invest in and grow our presence in the Carolinas over time. I would argue this combined franchise cannot be replicated and holds enormous scarcity value. If you recall our shareholder value proposition, you will see why we believe this transaction delivers on every one of our points. We have worked hard in our company to build a leading regional presence in Virginia, just like Sandy Spring has done in Maryland. We believe this partnership will further that objective by increasing the density, convenience, and capabilities of our banking network and our brand power and scarcity value in the Mid-Atlantic region. This is an investment in Sandy Spring Bank by Atlantic Union Bank. It is one that will enhance our financial strength through increased profitability, enhanced growth potential and scale, allowing us to better invest in our company and the communities we serve. We have chosen to take proactive actions to better position and de-risk the pro forma balance sheet so that we are poised for future growth with substantial capital, liquidity, and no CRE concentration constraints. We plan to enhance our growth potential by deploying Atlantic Union Bank's commercial and industrial banking capabilities into Sandy Springs markets by adding significant wealth management capabilities from Sandy Spring. By keeping substantial liquidity and capital levels, we will be well positioned for organic growth opportunities in some of the most attractive markets in America. And as we are today in Virginia, we believe we'll be the challenger and the alternative to the large institutions that dominate market share in the lower mid-Atlantic while maintaining the responsiveness and flexibility to compete with the smaller banks, too. We wanted to show you how the pro forma company stacks up against our shareholder value proposition. With the capital we'll generate until the merger closes, the forward sell equity raise we announced this morning, and our intention to sell up to $2 billion in acquired commercial real estate loans, we believe we will increase our pro forma capital levels at close and have ample liquidity to continue to grow. By going forward, we expect to generate significant capital from poor retained earnings and interest rate market accretion. Rob will have more details, but you can see our return on tangible common equity, return on assets, and efficiency ratio should be in the top tier of our peers. And we have a short tangible book value earn back period with strong earnings per share accretion and an internal rate of return above our hurdle rate. In short, this acquisition checks all the boxes for M&A, just as we said we do and as we've always done. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Sandy Spring, we wanted to highlight some of the key characteristics which make them an attractive partner for us. I'd like to introduce now their chairman, president, and chief executive officer, Dan Schreider. Dan, could you speak to why you decided to partner with us?
Thank you, John. I really do appreciate being a part of this morning's call and would like to share a bit about Sandy Spring, talk about this partnership we've announced, and what this will mean for our clients and our communities. For those who are unfamiliar with Sandy Spring Bank, we've served families and businesses in the Washington metro area for over 156 years. With assets of $14.4 billion and over 50 locations in Maryland, D.C., and Virginia, we provide a wide range of products and services, including consumer banking, commercial banking, treasury management, and a robust wealth management and trust business. And as John noted, today's announcement brings together two very strong organizations, and I'm really excited about what we're creating together. Atlantic Union Bank and Sandy Spring Bank share the same values and commitment. Both of us share a people-first approach to doing business and serving our communities, and together we'll add even greater value to those that we serve. This combination for us will deliver enhanced scale and capabilities and capacity for our clients. and will provide greater opportunities for our employees to grow within a larger organization. And once this merger is complete, our collective footprint will include D.C., Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina. If there are any specific questions regarding Sandy Spring Bank, I'm happy to answer those during the Q&A session. And I'll turn it back to John.
Thank you so much, Dan. Slide 9 shows combined market share and some market highlights. We're excited to create the number one regional bank in the mid-Atlantic region and separately the number one regional bank in Virginia, the number one regional bank in Maryland, too. To my knowledge, this has never been done before, and I do not believe it can be done again. This is an enormously powerful franchise. The pro forma entity will be situated in some of the wealthiest counties of the country. Our pro forma franchise will be in the 95th percentile of counties by median household income. In fact, six of those are in the top 12 in the United States. We're excited by the positioning and some of the largest population and wealth centers on the East Coast with Washington DC and Maryland. This should allow us to have enhanced growth opportunities for our expanded wealth management capabilities, potential future loan and deposit growth, and our ability to drive customer growth and gain market share. Before I turn it over to Rob, I wanted to offer perspective on why it should come as no surprise that we were interested in this combination. As mentioned earlier, I've been at Atlantic Union Bank now for eight years. During that time, we have worked hard to build a reputation for doing what we say we will do. And what we achieve with this partnership is one of those things. At our 2018 Investor Day six years ago, I outlined what our future M&A strategies would look like. And you can see that on slide 10 of today's merger presentation. Since we outlined those options six years ago, with this announcement, at different times, we've now done them all. We've had periods of organic-only growth, particularly while we ensured that we built a scalable talent and scalable operational technology and risk management infrastructure to support the midsize bank we had become. We also used those periods to improve our products and services, to better serve our customers and deliver more complete product offerings that match up well against the super regional and large national banks for the customer segments we choose to serve. We've consolidated Virginia, and we've become Virginia's bank, and today, We've announced a combination that will substantially complete the Golden Crescent strategy, meaning completing the arc that runs from Baltimore through Greater Washington, down through Richmond, and on to coastal Virginia. We have evolved into a mid-Atlantic regional bank and a primary challenger that can compete head-to-head with the largest banks that dominate market share in these areas, while remaining agile and responsive enough to compete against the smaller banks, too. We are ever mindful of our humble roots and community bank heritage that are the essence of our DMA, but now we are more capable than a community bank. Our strategy has been a combination of organic growth and carefully cultivated partnerships with other banks who share our vision. The result builds value for our shareholders and provides more convenience and capabilities to our customers and enables us to continue to invest in the communities we serve. It's also a terrific organic growth platform with unmatched scarcity value in these markets. And most exciting for me, this will create new career opportunities for our people, paying it forward for those who came before us and our predecessors, such as Union Bank and Trust, American National Bank, and now Sandy Spring Bank, among others. I'll now turn it over to Rob for more details.
Thanks, John. Let me switch gears to outline the expected financial impact of the merger from the strategic aspects of the transaction. which as John just noted, we believe are very compelling. On slide 11, we recap the transaction structure in key terms of the transaction. In terms of the transaction itself, it's a 100% stock deal with a fixed exchange ratio of 0.90 shares of AUD common stock for each share of C&E Springs common stock. When factored in with the equity raised announced today, assuming full physical settlement of the common shares, This works out to approximately 29% pro forma ownership of the combined company by Sandy Springs shareholders. That translates into an aggregate transaction value of about $1.6 billion, or $34.93 per Sandy Springs share, based on the closing share price of Atlantic Union stock ending on Friday, October 18th. This represents a per share market premium to Sandy Springs shareholders of approximately 7% over Friday's closing stock price. The implied transaction metrics represent a 1.28 price to tangible book value multiple, a price to 2025 consensus earnings per share multiple of 13.5 times, and a core deposit premium of 3.3%. Upon closing the transaction, three members of Sandy Springs Board of Directors will join Atlantic Union's board, including CEO Dan Schreider. The transaction is expected to close by the end of the third quarter of 2025, subject to customary closing conditions and the receipt of required regulatory approvals and shareholder approval from both companies. In addition, we are targeting the first quarter of 2026 to complete the core systems conversions. On slide 12, we lay out the key transaction assumptions. From a cost savings and merger cost perspective, we are assuming we can achieve savings of approximately 27% of Sandy Springs annual operating expenses and expect to incur approximately $115 million in after-tax merger-related expense. The core deposit intangible is set at 2.75% of Sandy Springs core deposits, or approximately $213 million, and we expect the wealth management intangible to be approximately $66 million. The gross loan credit market is expected to be 1.50% of loan balances, or $179 million, with a 60% non-PCD, 40% PCD credit mark split. In the day two CECL reserve adjustment, a non-PCD loan is expected to be one times the non-PCD credit mark of $107 million for the so-called double count. We're also modeling a rate-related loan fair market value adjustment of 5%. For $575 million, a $400 million loan The $53 million interest rate mark of Sandy Springs held the maturity securities portfolio, a $5 million net benefit of subordinated debt and time deposits, and a $9 million write-up of real estate assets. We also announced today that we raised $350 million of common equity with a $52.5 million or 15% green shoe at a price of $35.50 per share, utilizing a forward settlement mechanism that provides flexibility around the settlement date when the equity would be funded, which is assumed to be at the M&A deal closing date. We also intend to sell up to $2 billion of Sandy Springs CRE, or commercial real estate portfolio, after the merger closes to reduce the combined company's CRE concentration ratio to below 300%. Proceeds from the sale will be used to de-lever the balance sheet and reduce the pro-former's company's loan-to-deposit ratio post-close. Turning the page, as John mentioned earlier, we have been very public about our discipline around mergers and acquisitions in terms of the key financial targets that we expect when we enter into any merger transaction. And I've summarized those here as a reminder. Immediate earnings accretion to EPS, an earned back of tangible book value dilution, if any, of three years or less, and an internal rate of return of at least 18%. As you can see, on a pro forma basis, this deal checks all the boxes on our M&A metrics 23% EPS accretion, a 2.0 year tangible book value earned back period, and a 20% internal rate of return. In addition, on the right side of the slide, you can see that on a pro forma capital ratio basis, we will have a strong capital ratio position and CRE concentration ratio. This slide illustrates the meaningful impact that the merger should have on our profitability profile, putting us firmly into the top quartile of our pro forma peers across return on assets, return on tangible common equity, and the efficiency ratio. As John noted, we put a lot of thought into this larger transaction and wanted to ensure that the pro forma entity should be positioned for success with strong CRE concentration levels, liquidity capacity, and capital levels. We are taking prudent actions to strengthen the positioning of the pro forma balance sheet, and provide capacity to organically grow the combined entity upon closing the transaction. We expect to accomplish these objectives in two ways. First, through the CRE loan sale, which should lower the commercial real estate to total risk-based capital concentration ratio and provide the liquidity to reduce the pro forma company's loan-to-deposit ratio. And second, by raising additional common equity, which should enhance our CET1 capital ratio to approximately 10%, at closing in addition using 2026 consensus street estimates and factoring in the expense saves expected from the transaction you can see the earnings power of the combined franchise and level of internally generated capital that we expect this deal to create which should support the organic growth potential of the pro forma company across its entire footprint additionally we expect our capital generation to be enhanced from the accretion of interest rate related fair value marks as those flow back through earnings and capital and represent locked-in gap earnings going forward. As you would expect, we went through a very comprehensive due diligence process, as we do in any merger transaction. Significant preliminary due diligence was undertaken ahead of the more formal due diligence exclusivity period to confirm the merger feasibility and to estimate preliminary impacts of any purchase accounting adjustments, as well as to determine our ability to raise equity and sell CRE loans as part of the transaction to ensure we could de-risk the proformer's company balance sheet. Upon positively confirming the feasibility of the merger, we formed a cross-functional due diligence team that reviewed all aspects of Sandy Springs' business over a four-week exclusivity period. In addition to our internal team, we engaged third-party expertise to review credit, interest rate, and real estate loan market valuations, as well as tax and legal matters in connection with the transaction. The credit due diligence of Sandy Spring was very thorough, as you can see from the magnitude of the review of Sandy Spring's loan portfolios noted here. Sandy Spring has historically been a very clean bank from a credit perspective, and results from our third party's review found that to be the case. In addition, the due diligence teams met with their counterparts in each of the areas you see listed on this slide and came away with a very strong understanding of the culture and business operations of Sandy Spring. which will allow us to plan for a smooth integration into the Atlantic Union franchise. Now I'll turn it back over to John to discuss our community benefits plan for the pro forma company.
Thank you, Rob. Atlantic Union and Sandy Spring are real banks for real people. As mentioned, our roots go back 122 years, while theirs go back 156 years. We wouldn't be here today without the support of our communities, and we have supported them too through the years. As you can see, we both spend a lot of time and money investing in our communities. We believe that this transaction will enable us to deliver even greater benefits to our communities. And to that end, we have developed a $9.5 billion community benefits plan whereby over the next five years, we will commit across our markets to provide approximately $8 billion in community benefit financing and approximately 1.5 billion in community investments and charitable contributions for the benefit of the communities we serve. We are also excited to announce that we will open three new branch locations in low to moderate income areas in Baltimore City, Maryland, Prince George's County, Maryland, and Prince William County, Virginia. We will provide residential mortgage assistance, additional support for small and medium-sized businesses, and make additional donations to community organizations. We win lots of awards because we do the right things for our teammates and the communities we serve. And the plan announced today reflects that long history and illustrates our continuing community support well into the future. As you can see, this transaction works on so many levels and positions us to deliver long-term shareholder value. It will solidify our status as the preeminent lower mid-Atlantic franchise that bridges into the southeast. As Rob mentioned, the significant earnings accretion will earn back the tangible book value dilution quickly. With our history of successful integrations and having just completed an acquisition and systems conversion, We've exercised these muscles recently, and we believe that this transaction has a lower execution risk as a result. Our customers will have greater convenience and will be able to offer greater capabilities in an expanded product set. And as previously mentioned, our teammates will benefit from expanded career and development opportunities in the soon to be larger organization. We have compatible cultures and great respect between our two companies, and we plan to do great things together for our shareholders, our teammates, our customers, and our communities. We are stronger together. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Bill Cimino to open it up for questions from our analysts. Bill? Thank you, John. Michelle, we're ready for our first question, please.
Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1-1. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, please press star 1-1 again. Our first question comes from Catherine Mueller with KBW. Your line is open.
Good morning, Catherine.
Good morning. Good morning and congrats on this acquisition. I want to start maybe just with the theory loan sale. Just curious if you can talk us through how you've prepared for that, you know, the logistics of how that works. And then I also saw in your in your presentation, you mentioned that the theory sale takes about 29 cents out of book value. So just kind of curious, you know, what kind of discount you're assuming within that within that number?
Thanks. Sure. I'll start with the process. We were represented on this transaction by Morgan Stanley. Due diligence took two phases. Phase one, Dan, and we refer to as preliminary due diligence, and we did several things at that period of time. We took the loan tape and we had it analyzed, both one to calculate the actual credit marks or interest rate marks, I should say, And importantly, we also had Morgan Stanley, who maintains an active commercial real estate capital markets group, assess the portfolio to identify the for sale portfolio, which we had estimated at $2 billion. Dan and I both referred to this phase of due diligence as the feasibility test. You know, does the merger make sense? Does the math work? And so it was important to not speculate, estimate, or frankly guess it with the interest rate marks. We actually calculated the interest rate marks using our third party. And at the same time, Morgan Stanley actually assessed the loan portfolio, identified the for sale notes and priced them. So we have a very, very good handle on what that will be. Catherine, I'll point out it's up to $2 billion. It's not necessarily $2 billion. We're solving for the known metrics of the targeted commercial real estate concentration ratio and the loan-to-deposit ratio. And so based on the modeling that we've done, it's up to $2 billion. We could find out that we do not need to sell all of that. But nevertheless... we were able to conclude with confidence that the potential transaction was feasible. We each agreed that if we're going to do this, we're going to position the company for growth, and we're not going to have a CRE concentration ratio to hold us back, and we're going to have ample liquidity in the loan to deposit ratio. So that's how that works in terms of the nature of it. By the way, we will be service retained. So the commercial real estate loans that are sold will be service retained. meaning it'll be the same experience for the client. Rob, do you want to speak to how we calculated the marks?
So, Catherine, in terms of the impact on charitable book value, as you noted, we're selling about $2 billion of CRE loans. Obviously, those are being marked for sale. So included in that mark, we've got a 1.5 credit mark. We've got a 5% interest rate mark on that portfolio. And then on top of that, additional discount related to the sale in the market. We're assuming a low 90s total mark in terms of what we're able to sell to. So we'll receive those proceeds on a discounted basis from PAR. And then we're reinvesting those proceeds in paying down federal home loan bank advances. Actually, I should point out that the The yield on the $2 billion we're talking about is about a 5.73% currently as we've modeled. And we're reinvesting that by paying down federal home loan bank and high-cost broker deposits, among other things. And those are rates paid on those that are in the $454.75 range. So we're taking a bit of a haircut on that from an earnings point of view. In addition, some of those proceeds will be invested in both loans and securities portfolio. So there's a haircut that we're taking on a yield basis related to those. And then there's also the aspect of we're not getting the accretion income. By selling these loans, we lose the ability on the accretion income aspect of that. So that's really how it's been calculated. We do know it's a headwind against the earnings as we go forward, but it's kind of a net, not the full gross number of the 5.73 yield on the portfolio.
It's a headwind, but the transactions looks great despite the headwind.
It's a headwind, but it allows you to grow as you move out. That's exactly right.
I also want to point out that there's sort of an embedded option here If you are of the mindset as we are that we're going to see an elevation in commercial real estate payoffs, if we find that we are sort of running below the planned level of commercial real estate, then we're able to easily fix that. We'll simply sell fewer loans, which will top off the targeted balances, and that will actually be quite lucrative because they will have been marked. Again, all we're really doing is solving a math equation. How much do we have to sell in order to hit our targeted commercial real estate concentration ratio and loan-to-deposit ratio? It's really as simple as that.
And what are those targeted ratios? I assume it's more than just below 300. Is it just like 272 is the targeted theory to capital that you're looking at?
Yeah, if you look at the model, I think what we reported is about 272 at the holding company level. It's probably a little over that at the bank level, 280. Yeah, you can see that on the slide here, 272 and 285. But yeah, below 300 for sure. That's the key in trying to bring that down even a bit lower than we're sitting right now. We're about 290 today.
And loan-to-deposit ratio will be in great shape. It'll actually be, you know, we're in good shape right now, but it'll be lower still, below 90%. I think the key message to the teams, particularly who will join from Sandy Springs, and to the markets in which they operate is we will be open for business, positioned to grow.
Great. That's really helpful. And then just on a standalone basis for Atlantic Union, it looks like the margin is coming down a little bit in the fourth quarter just as we added more rate cuts. Is there any way to kind of think about how that impacts the NIM at which we should start for 2025?
Yeah, Catherine, I think we won't provide official guidance until our fourth quarter earnings call in January, but you can expect that we should see some expansion of the margin coming out of the fourth quarter. Really, some of this is kind of temporary impacts in terms of we've lowered our accretion income estimates as pre-payments were coming in lower than we had originally forecast. And then you can see You know, lower fixed rates have impacted our lower market rates, term rates have impacted, you know, the yields that we're getting on new and renewing fixed rate loans. And then the other part of that is there's an extra 25 basis points of Fed funds rate cut that we hadn't originally projected in the fourth quarter. That will catch up as we're expecting more to come in 2025. So all that put together and being aggressive on deposit rate, bringing deposit rates down, we're assuming a mid-40s on the deposit beta down. That should allow us to stand the margin a bit in 2025, and we'll talk more about that in our next call.
Okay, very helpful. Thank you, and congrats.
Thank you, Catherine. Michelle, we're ready for our next caller, please.
Okay, our next question comes from Russell Gunther with Stevens Inc. Your line is open.
Hi, Russell. Hey, good morning, guys. Just to quickly follow up on Catherine's line of questions for the NIMS, could you give us a sense for where you'd expect the pro forma margin to shake out with steel clothes? And does the, I think the 364 million you referred to on slide 16, um, Does that include marks taken on the $2 billion, potential $2 billion of CRE sales or not? How should we be thinking about that number?
Yeah, that should include the impact of the CRE sale, both from an earnings perspective as well as the marks not accreting as much income.
Okay. The 364 contemplates the up to $2 billion of loans sold.
Yeah, exactly. And then in terms of the margin impact, I think we're suggesting upon closing, as we see accretion coming through, we're probably in the, call it the 375 to 385 range is what we'd be projecting with accretion income.
Got it. Thank you, Rob, for the clarity there. And then switching gears to loans and the loan growth outlook, I think Sandy Springs struggled a bit to grow CNI the way they would have liked. This is very much a core competency at Atlantic Union. So could you give us the playbook for overlay in the AUB model on Sandy Spring? And then how should we think about the overall pro forma loan growth rate going forward?
Dave Ring, who's our head of all commercial businesses, is here. Let me say that we have a playbook. We will continue to refine the playbook as we begin to spend more time with them. So, Dave, don't show your hand too much, but at least be directionally correct.
Yeah, I think the advantage going into this transaction really is they've already segmented their business lines. So they already have a Cree segment. like we do in the CNI segment like we do. Now it's an opportunity to really grow the fee-based businesses along the new client acquisition. Our playbook will probably remain very similar to what you've seen over time where 30% to 40% of production comes from new client acquisition.
Yes, and I would say that the Maryland markets are similar to what we see. So we definitely will use what we'll call the Virginia playbook We are better able, or I should, let me rephrase, we are better positioned to serve middle market companies. So Sandy is perhaps a bit more limited there. So we'll continue to go after certainly smaller business, but we can move into the pure middle market. We bring new capabilities to the table, be it equipment finance, asset-based lending, foreign exchange. a robust interest rate hedging program, additional treasury management services. By the way, they have some treasury management offerings that we don't currently offer that we intend to keep. So all that will come in time. I do believe there are revenue synergies here. The single largest revenue synergy is here. They'll not be constrained in any way, shape, or form in terms of the capacity to lend. But we bring new tools to the table. And I think that while we have modeled zero, they're going to be very real. So we're excited about it and what we can do together. As needed, I also think it will help us attract talent, too, you know, to the extent that the team finds that, you know, they have room to grow and add more talent. All right, great.
Thank you, guys. And then just last one for me would be a follow-up on the CRE loan sale. understand solving for a math equation in terms of loan and deposit ratio and concentration. But is there anything you could share in terms of the profile of the loans sold, whether it's asset classes like office or geographies? Just how did you kind of ring-fence the characteristics of the potential CRE to be sold?
Yes. Russell, we've actually identified the portfolio and priced it down to the individual notes. Just to give you some context, it's about 200 notes. I don't want you to think it's 2,000. And the two largest categories will be retail and multifamily. And then you get into some kind of miscellaneous other, which makes it up. Now, we don't have to sell those 200 notes to be clear, but that is the identified portfolio. We can move some things around, so to speak. But there's a very liquid market for those. To be exceptionally clear, we're talking about very good, high-quality performing loans. I wish we didn't have to sell any, but it is the right thing to do. So we have a very good line of sight into exactly what we're selling.
Thanks, John. And thank you guys for taking my questions. Thank you. Thanks, Russell. Michelle, we're ready for our next caller, please.
Okay. Our next question comes from Steve Moss. With Raymond James, your line is open.
Hi, Steve.
Good morning, guys.
Just following up on the commercial real estate loans you plan to sell here, just kind of curious, kind of what's the average life of the type of loans you're looking to sell versus the average life of the CRE loans you're looking to retain?
I think the average life or duration of the portfolio is about four years on the commercial real estate portfolio. And these loans are pretty much in line. They may be a little shorter, but pretty much in line with that duration.
That's the total portfolio, Robert, or just the part you're selling? I'm sorry.
No, the total portfolio is about a four-year duration, and the part we're selling is approximately in that part. Yeah, it's largely reflective. It's a little shorter than the four years, just from the market appetite for these sort of assets. But not significantly.
Okay. And then in terms of just the, you know, that mark that you guys are talking about, I think in the low 90s you guys said, that is not included in the $575 million interest rate mark, or is that included?
It is included in the total mark. And then if you look at it, we have a reconciling settlement in the back, I think, page 28. And then we back that out as part of the real estate deal. Kind of have it in two places, a negative and a positive. Okay.
Got you. And then in terms of just kind of, you know, Thinking about the market here today, it sounds like, you know, you guys saw loan yields came in during the quarter. Just kind of curious, I mean, you know, what kind of rate you guys are seeing on new originations here and how you guys are thinking about the, you know, the pro forma combined origination rate?
Yeah, in terms of the Atlantic Union, new loans are coming on around the $7. to 7.05 range in the third quarter. Now that's down from I think about a 7.25 in the prior quarter. Part of that is due to the significant decline in term rates that occurred in the second to third quarter. I think the five-year fell about almost 100 basis points. Now that's climbed back a little since the end of the quarter. So that's what we're putting on new and renewed loans. In terms of the overall portfolio, I mean, you can think about it kind of if you combine the two with the marks, you know, we're talking about pretty much in that ballpark if you mark Sandy's, which we will, Sandy's loan yield or portfolio. So, really, those are being put on at market in terms of the loan marks, so you would expect to see those rates kind of play through. Okay.
And I meant to ask before that question, just going back to the loans you're looking to sell, are you guys doing any hedging around the loans to lock in a price on loans you plan to sell? And also just curious, you know, since the five-year has moved up quite a bit here in the last couple of weeks, you know, is that reflective of the rate mark you're taking on the $2 billion portfolio, or is that kind of, you know, closer than the five-year was?
Yeah, it's reflective. I think the current market rates are reflective in the loan mark. But in terms of hedging, we've looked at various alternatives from a hedging point of view. And, you know, it's quite expensive. We'll continue to evaluate that. But at this point in time, we haven't locked into anything definitively on hedging that. We do have room if rates were to go up 100, call it 100 base points. We still think we're in good shape from all of the metrics that we were talking about here.
Okay. Got you. And then just curious here on, you know, deposit cost side, you know, it sounds like, you know, trends were a little bit ahead of what you guys were expecting for the quarter. You know, curious here with the 50 base point Fed cut, what you guys are seeing for deposit cost trends going forward?
Yeah, we're surely seeing them come down. We've been fairly aggressive in September post the Fed move in bringing down both our CD rates and money market rates. Actually consistent with what we're seeing from some of the large players in our market, the Truist Wells and B of A's, they've been aggressive. So we are being aggressive as well. As I mentioned, we are modeling that we would probably be in the mid 40s through the down cycle. from a deposit beta perspective, and we'll be very aggressive on the downside here.
Okay, great. Appreciate it, caller. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Steve. And Michelle, we're ready for our last caller, please.
Thank you. Our last question comes from David Bishop with Huff Group. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Hey, good morning. Hey, John, curious. Obviously, you get a lot bigger here following the transaction. Obviously, you guys are very strong community bank-oriented franchises, both you and Dan. Do you see the nature of the types of loan relationships changing materially post-close here? Do you move up market in terms of that upper-middle market? Just curious how you think the business model may change.
The way we would Think about it is we'll keep doing everything we're doing today. There's nothing that's going on at Sandy Spring that's not going on here, you know, from our standpoint in terms of, you know, commercial banking. So we keep doing what we're doing, but we will have the capacity to deal with some larger clients as well, you know, into the middle market. We have some other capabilities that will be of interest. We have a public finance subsidiary, for example, which will actually make us more competitive up there in terms of tax-exempt financing, for example. And you know the Baltimore area is an outstanding industrial market. I used to run asset-based lending in the southeast for Bank of America. We had a Baltimore office. I spent a lot of time up there. So as we bring things like equipment finance to the table and asset-based lending and equipment finance, we have marine finance capabilities. Think tugboats, barges, et cetera. Got the Port of Baltimore. We see a lot of opportunity, not just in there, but I'm specifically calling out Baltimore and that area is an excellent sort of commercial industrial market. But then just broadly, greater Washington region and central Maryland, we will be able to bring some tools to the table and capital to be able to move a bit more upmarket. It's not an either-or. It's everything they're doing and some additional capabilities.
Great. Thanks. Maybe just curious, it's obviously getting maybe somewhat lost in the shuffle a little bit, but your experience thus far in terms of retention and maybe growth in the
American national deposit base maybe some some trends there close close Yeah, we feel good yeah really good about it doesn't it really Yeah, the retention has been really good and you know both the deposit side and I think from a commercial client perspective and a retail client perspective so Your bullish nothing would nothing material report there actually feel like we're growing some some of those those accounts. I
Dave, do you have any comments on what you're seeing on the commercial side?
On the commercial side, the client attrition rate is actually lower than our average client attrition rate at legacy AUV, and only slightly higher than the historical average for American Nationals. So we're seeing a pretty steady book of business.
That is a great team of bankers. And we've clearly been able to demonstrate our enhanced ability to recruit, which we have mostly seen in North Carolina because we have a good, we have a great team right now in central, western, and southern Virginia. But we've been adding to the commercial team down in North Carolina. That's one benefit, you know, to the additional capabilities and some additional scale. there are going to be bankers who will perceive that as a good thing because it only further improves their ability to go head-to-head with the big guys into the middle market.
I appreciate that, Carl. One final question, John. It sounds like you had some line of sight maybe to additional commercial real estate paydowns coming up here. Maybe talk about where you're seeing some of that change. that pressure coming from?
Yeah, it's interesting. So Maria Tedesco is here with me. We were just spending time recently with our commercial real estate team. And, you know, it's very clear that what you have going on here is if you look back, we've been through a period of suppressed or below normal commercial real estate payoffs, which in my mind, think of it as like a backup or a bit of a backlog. So these are developers that in the normal course are going to refinance into the institutional non-recourse markets like insurance companies, or if it's apartments, Fannie or Freddie programs, you know, possibly CNBS. And they kind of been waiting, uh, because they've been making, uh, their expectation has been that term rates will come down, uh, or, or sell the properties. And so when term rates come down, cap rates go down. So when we saw the dip in treasury yields last quarter, That felt like a little bit of a tipping point, and I'm not saying there's a flood, but I'm just saying they were ready and they began to make this decision to do it. So we saw this pickup, and we know from talking to them that they have more to go as they sort of clear their backlog because they want their capital back and they want the ability to go do additional projects. This is actually a healthy thing. It should be viewed as a good thing in the markets. So I'm not saying there's a huge... wave, but I'm saying it's beginning to think of it as normalized, but there probably will be some above average payoffs for a little bit while this backup clears. This is normal. This is what you want them to do. It's just kind of the normal process and it's been below average. So, you know, we've seen treasury yields pick up again now. So, you know, maybe that'll change their expectations. Not sure.
Putting that all together, maybe on an organic basis, does that sort of imply maybe a A mid-single-digit loan growth maybe as opposed to a high single-digit growth rate, just curious, maybe holistically.
Rob, do you want to speak to that? Yeah, so we're still calling for mid-single-digit loan growth, Dave, even despite some of the headwinds we're seeing here.
Yeah, we think the pipelines are supportive of that.
Great, appreciate the color.
Thanks, Dave, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today on today's call. We look forward to talking with you next quarter. Thank you all.
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