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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the ASEC Company's fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today. I'm Skelly, Senior Vice President, Strategy and Execution. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.
spk02
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We issued our earnings press release this morning to the investor relations portion of our website at investors.azetco.com, as well as via 8K on the SEC's website. I'm joined today by Jesse Singh, our Chief Executive Officer, and Ralph Nicoletti, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during this call, ASEC management may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include remarks about future expectations, anticipation, beliefs, estimates, forecasts, plans, and prospects. Such statements are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated or implied by such statements. Such risks and other factors are set forth in the company's earnings release posted on the website and will be provided in our annual report on Form 10-K for our fiscal year 2020, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company does not undertake any duty to update such forward-looking statements. Additionally, during today's call, the company will discuss non-GAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAP. Reconciliations of adjusted EBITDA to net loss calculated under GAAP and adjusted gross profit to gross profit calculated under GAAP, as well as reconciliations for other non-GAAP measures discussed on this call, can be found in our earnings release, which is posted on our website and will be included in our Form 10-K for our fiscal year 2020. I would now like to turn the call over to Jesse Singh.
Jesse Singh
Good morning. It's great to be speaking with you all again, and thank you for joining us today. I hope that everyone continues to be safe and healthy. I am very proud of the ASAC team as we continue to make progress against our long-term goals of consistent growth, adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, and positively impacting society through our unique business model and our increased focus on ESG. The fourth quarter was a very good quarter, ending a strong 2020 and more importantly, was another big step in our long-term journey. We made good progress in fiscal 2020, which included double-digit sales growth and more than 100 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. As mentioned in earlier calls, we have a stated long-term revenue growth objective of 8% to 10% and EBITDA growth objective of 10% to 14%. and we see 500 basis points of long-term adjusted EBITDA margin expansion opportunity off a 2019 baseline. We believe that AZAC is a unique company with a compelling long-term secular growth story. We are focused on large growing markets that are benefiting from multi-year secular trends driven by continuing conversion from wood to our types of materials and consumers increasing focus on outdoor living. We are known as the innovation leader in outdoor living, driven by our technology, design, and superior aesthetics. Our U.S. manufacturing footprint uses an increasing amount of recycled materials, which furthers our sustainability strategy and enhances our profitability. ESG principles are at the core of what we do and we are committed to its fundamentals of sustainability, positive social impact, and sound governance. We continue to invest in our core strengths of brand, manufacturing, R&D, and customer connection, and we remain focused on our key initiatives to achieve long-term performance objectives. Growth through innovation, margin expansion through recycle, and continuous improvement. and positively impacting the world through ESG. First, we have multiple levers to drive above-market growth and accelerate material conversion, including investing in new product introductions and leveraging downstream-focused sales and marketing teams. During 2020, we added two new decking product lines in addition to new rail and exteriors products. Our new Reserve and Prime Plus decking product lines have been well received and have contributed in a meaningful way to our growth, and we expect that to continue. Earlier this week, we announced a series of new exterior product innovations for 2021, including Accent Shingle Siding and our Azac Cap Polymer Cladding products, which further differentiates our product portfolio and creates additional growth platforms for our business. We also expanded our downstream sales efforts and made strides in improving our consumer experience, and we upgraded our digital platform with improved technology and expanded content. As part of our focus on sustainability and margin expansion, we have made great progress with our recycling initiatives, which include increasing our use of recycled materials, insourcing the processing of recycled materials, and moving to lower-cost formulations. We have fully transitioned to recycled plastics in the core of our cap composite products and have moved to approximately 50% recycled materials in the core of our cap polymer decking products. During the year, our use of recycled materials in our extrusion processes expanded from 44% in 2019 to 54% in 2020. Overall, in fiscal 2020, we used approximately 400 million pounds of recycled materials, an increase of over 100 million pounds from the approximately 290 million pounds we used in 2019. Our acquisition of return polymers allowed us to accelerate our PVC recycling initiatives by insourcing our PVC recycling capabilities for use across our product lines. More recently, The return polymers acquisition facilitated the launch of our Azek Full Circle PVC Collection Recycling Program. Full Circle was officially launched in November after a pilot program this summer and is a first-of-its-kind program that works directly with dealers, contractors, and fabricators to collect, return, and recycle scrap PVC from fabrication shops, construction sites, and remodeling projects. This innovative program represents another step in ASAC's ongoing commitment to building a more sustainable future. In 2020, we also made significant progress in improving our social and environmental impact and corporate governance through our core value, do the right thing. We are committed to achieving a high level of environmental and social responsibility as well as leading by example with diversity and strong corporate governance. As part of this commitment, we are a signatory to the United Nations Global Compact, a global initiative focused on advancing sustainable and responsible business practices related to human rights, labor, the environment, and anti-corruption. We recently welcomed three new board members, including Fumby Chima, Howard Heckes, and Romeo Limraez, each of whom brings incredible leadership, unique experience, and diverse perspectives to help guide us in achieving our long-term objectives. Diversity and inclusion is part of our DNA, and we are committed to supporting and enhancing a diverse board of directors, management team, and employee base. We are making strong progress on multiple fronts around our ESG efforts and expect to release our inaugural ESG report early in the new calendar year finally we continue to invest in our core brand manufacturing r d and customer connection strengths in 2020 we have made significant progress against our capacity expansion as mentioned on our last call we initiated our 180 million dollar capacity expansion program which includes important construction and expansion activities across our manufacturing and recycle facilities, each in advance of a new planned Western U.S. manufacturing facility anticipated in early 2022. During the quarter, we completed the first phase of our capacity expansion program and saw a gradual increase in our capacity, and we expect that to continue as we bring additional capacity online over the next few quarters. Taken together, our market opportunity, growth drivers, operational excellence, and margin execution during the year clearly demonstrates the strength and resiliency of our business model. Our execution is on track, and I couldn't be more proud of the way our team has continued to respond and perform all while managing through a pandemic and becoming a public company. Turning to our fourth quarter results, we delivered strong sales and adjusted EBITDA growth. Our residential business grew 30% compared to the fourth quarter a year ago, while our commercial segment declined approximately 14%. Adjusted EBITDA grew 26% year on year, and adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 60 basis points over the same period. These results were on top of very strong growth the previous year. The strong trends we saw in the second half of our third quarter continued throughout the fourth quarter as consumers remained focused on improving and investing in their homes and outdoor living. We believe that the increased consumer engagement and awareness that we generated in fiscal 2020 will provide long-term benefits to the category and our performance. Within the residential business, we experienced strong demand through the quarter. Repair and remodel and new construction benefited from favorable tailwinds, and both the pro and retail channels saw significant growth this quarter. Sales within our exteriors business grew approximately 18% year over year, and our deck, rail, and accessories business grew approximately 35% year over year. we saw strong broad-based demand across our residential product portfolio including our new product launches like timber tech pro reserve and edge prime plus which have been well received since their launch in early 2020. channel sell-through growth in the fourth quarter was comparable to our reported residential net sales growth and inventory days in the channel exiting the quarter remained below levels at the same time last year. Our investments in digital, branding, and improving the overall consumer experience continue to drive strong returns. Key demand metrics we track, such as website sessions and sample orders, all saw tremendous growth in Q4 relative to the same period last year. At the end of October, we had an opportunity to sponsor the TimberTech Championship held at the Old Course at the Broken Sound in Boca Raton, Florida. The event was a great opportunity to partner with the PGA Tour champions to raise funds for local area hospitals and also showcased our brand and broad range of beautiful outdoor living products to millions of viewers. Our commercial business declined for the quarter on a year-over-year basis, but continues to perform relatively well in a difficult market. While we are starting to see improvements in certain end markets, like marine, we expect commercial to remain challenged, especially for trade shows and retail, through at least the first half of next year. As a reminder, this business tends to track more closely to GDP and the broader economy. Our commercial business has some great products that include high privacy bathroom partitions and barrier products that could become increasingly necessary, as well as innovative OEM solutions that are utilized in faster growing outdoor living applications. Our team is doing a great job of navigating the difficult macro backdrop. And while we still see some near-term challenges on this front, we expect to see some stabilization in the back half of 2021. Operationally, our team once again worked tirelessly to respond to customer demand while continuing to execute against key operational initiatives. These initiatives are on track with what we shared with you last quarter and during the IPO process. They include the expansion of manufacturing capacity, the increased use of recycled raw materials, and the execution of our continuous improvement programs. In addition to the overall recycling initiative progress I mentioned earlier, during the quarter we implemented a strategic recycled material supply relationship with Barry Plastics for approximately 30 million pounds of various types of scrap plastics annually. These materials will be recycled and repurposed into the production of our high-quality sustainable building products materials, such as composite decking. We are also proud to have received the 2020 Vinyl Recycling Award from the Vinyl Sustainability Council in recognition of our sustainable manufacturing and recycling innovations in our TimberTech AZEC decking product lines. On the capacity front, we remain on schedule with our accelerated $180 million capacity expansion program, which will support the strong demand we continue to experience and future market demand from the continued conversion from wood. The first phase of our capacity expansion program came online during the fourth quarter, and production is ramping up according to plan. Given the sustained level of demand we saw during the quarter, we continue to be in a position where we are unable to fully meet demand for our deck and rail products and expect gradual improvement as new capacity comes online in the first half of 2021. We remain on track for additional capacity to come online during the second and third quarters of our fiscal 2021. As a reminder, the strategic capacity expansion plan includes an incremental decking production capacity of approximately 70% and a new manufacturing facility over the next 15 to 21 months. During our fourth quarter of fiscal 2020, we announced a low single-digit price increase across the majority of our product portfolio within our residential segment. as well as across our commercial product portfolio. These increases will take effect at the beginning of the new calendar year and will enable us to cover cost increases across our business. Now, let me turn to our outlook, which is influenced by a number of factors, indicators, and macroeconomic variables. As a reminder, we integrate and share data with our channel partners and regularly survey our dealer and contractor customers to understand their activity levels and backlogs, which continue to show considerable strength. We conduct detailed analysis on our sell-through and inventory in the channel, which currently is below levels at the same time last year. We also evaluate consumer engagement activity, such as web activity, sample orders, and quote requests, as mentioned earlier, remain at record levels. Finally, we utilize forecasts that correlate to our business, such as repair and remodel and new housing data, combined with traditional macroeconomic variables for short and long-term visibility on potential demand and demographic trends. While we see many positives, including an expanded focus on the home and outdoor living, We also recognize that we are in the midst of a highly unusual macroeconomic environment. Taken in their totality, these factors influence our favorable near-term outlook for our residential business. We remain highly confident in the long-term market opportunity for our business, driven by secular trends, the large material conversion opportunity, and our own execution. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Ralph, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail.
Accent Shingle Siding
Thank you, Jesse. As I discuss our results, all comparisons made will be on a year-over-year basis compared to the same period ending September 30th of 2019. In short, we finished our fiscal year of 2020 with strong results and good momentum entering fiscal 2021. For the fiscal fourth quarter of 2020, net sales increased by $48.4 million, or 22%, to $263.9 million. For the full fiscal year 2020, net sales increased by $105.1 million, or 13%, to $899.3 million. The increase for both periods was driven by sales growth in our residential segment. For the fourth quarter, net sales for our residential segment increased by 30% year over year, driven by deck rail and accessories growth of 35% and exteriors growth of 18%. This growth was partially offset by a decrease in our commercial segment of 14% year over year. For the fiscal year 2020, net sales for our residential segment increased by $115.7 million, or 17.7%. to $771.2 million. The increase was primarily attributable to higher sales growth in both our deck rail accessories and exteriors businesses, driven by continued market growth, success of new products across the portfolio, and the benefit from investments in downstream selling capabilities. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 increased by $20.8 million, or 30 percent, to $90.3 million. For the fiscal year 2020, gross profit increased by $42.9 million, or 17%, to $296 million. Adjusted gross profit for the fourth quarter of fiscal 20 increased by $19.4 million, or 22%, to $106.1 million. Adjusted gross profit margin was 40.2%, unchanged from last year, as higher residential segment sales and favorable price mix increased were offset by raw material inflation, additional expenses related to our capacity expansion, and COVID-19-related costs. For the fiscal year 2020, adjusted gross profit increased $44.2 million, or 14%, to $359.1 million. Adjusted gross profit margin expanded 30 basis points to 39.9%. The increase in gross profit was driven by higher residential segment sales and manufacturing productivity, partially offset by the impact of COVID-19 related costs. Selling, general, and administrative expenses increased by $103.4 million to $149.9 million, or 56.8% of net sales, for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020. For the fiscal year of 2020, selling general administrative expenses increased by $124.7 million, or 68 percent, to $308.3 million, or 34.3 percent of net sales. The increase was primarily driven by $120.5 million of stock-based compensation expense related to our initial public offering and the accelerated vesting of stock-based compensation resulting from the secondary offering. Additional ongoing costs related to operating as a public company, partially offset by lower marketing and selling expenses during the initial COVID-19 disruption. We recorded a net loss of $64.4 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 compared to a net loss of $0.9 million a year ago. For the fiscal year of 2020, we recorded a net loss of $122.2 million compared to a net loss of $20.2 million in the fiscal year 2019, primarily due to increased selling general and administrative expenses, as discussed previously, as well as $37.6 million of expenses related to the extinguishment of debt in the fiscal third quarter. Please note that effective as of September 30th of 2020, we revised the definition of adjusted net income to no longer include depreciation expense as an adjustment. For fiscal 2020, depreciation expense was approximately $45 million. We have recast the prior periods in our earnings release posted on our website and in our upcoming 10-K filing to reflect the change. Adjusted net income was $44.4 million, or 29 cents per share, for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020, compared to adjusted net income of $16.8 million or 16 cents a share a year ago. For fiscal year 2020, we recorded adjusted net income of $72.6 million compared to adjusted net income of $46.7 million in the fiscal year of 2019. Adjusted net income would have been $117.3 million, approximately $45 million higher in 2020 an increase by approximately $34 million to $80.4 million in 2019 if we had included depreciation expense as an adjustment. Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 increased by $13.6 million, or 26%, to $66.1 million. An adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 60 basis points to 25% from 24.4% a year ago. For the fiscal year 2020, adjusted EBITDA increased by $33.9 million, or 19% to $213.5 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the fiscal year 2020 expanded 110 basis points to 23.7% from 22.6% in 2019. Now, turning to more detail on our segment results, Residential segment net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 increased by $53.6 million, or 30%, to $232.7 million. We are continuing to see strong acceptance of our new deck, rail, and exterior trim products, and we are benefiting from downstream salesforce investments we have made in our exteriors and retail channel teams. For the fiscal year 2020, net sales for our residential segment increased by $115.7 million or 17.7% to $771.2 million. The increase was primarily driven by higher sales in both our deck rail and accessories and exteriors businesses. Residential segment adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 increased by $20 million or 37.3% to $74 million. For fiscal year 2020, residential segment adjusted EBITDA increased by 49.3 million or 26.1% to 238.1 million, mainly driven by higher sales and manufacturing productivity improvements, partially offset by higher COVID-19 related production costs. Commercial segment net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 decreased by $5.3 million, or 14%, to $31.3 million. For the fiscal year of 2020, net sales of the commercial segment decreased by $10.7 million, or 8%, to $128.1 million. The decrease was primarily driven by lower sales in our VICOM business as the effects of COVID-19 continued to impact certain end market demands. This business was affected by the slowdown in commercial repair and remodel, as well as certain challenged end markets, such as retail and trade shows. Commercial segment adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 decreased $3.2 million to $3.9 million. For the fiscal year of 2020, commercial segment adjusted EBITDA decreased by $6.4 million to $15.1 million. The decrease was primarily driven by lower sales in the Vicon business, partially offset by lower manufacturing costs and reductions in selling general administrative expenses. Looking at our balance sheet and cash flow as of September 30th, 2020, we had cash and cash equivalents of $215 million and approximately $129.4 million of availability for future borrowings under our revolving credit facility. Total debt as of September 30th of 2020 was $467.7 million, and we have not drawn on our revolving credit facility. Net cash provided by operating activities was $98.4 million and $94.9 million for the 12 months ended September 30th of 2020 and 2019, respectively. Now turning to our outlook, our outlook is based on current strong demand within our residential segment. We remain encouraged by our current strong demand trends, external demand signals such as housing starts, repair and remodeling activity, and internal signals like web traffic and sample order growth. We have previously communicated that we would expect low double-digit sales growth in Q1 2021. Given the strength in the residential market, we now expect total company net sales growth in fiscal Q1 to be in the low 20% range year over year, and adjusted EBITDA growth in the high 20% range year over year. As it relates to the commercial segment, we continue to see weakness into the first quarter of 2021, and we expect this business to be down in the high teens range. For the full fiscal year of 2021, we expect total company net sales to increase 10 to 14% year-over-year and adjusted EBITDA growth in the mid-teens range year-over-year, following 19% growth in fiscal 2020. This results in continuing adjusted EBITDA margin improvement as additional costs, including startup from our capacity expansion, raw material and labor inflation, and costs of being a public company are more than offset with pricing and manufacturing cost savings from our recycling initiatives. From a segment perspective, based on our leading indicators, we expect residential segment net sales growth in the range of low to mid-teens year over year. This outlook reflects the visibility we have for the next three to six months and recognizes macro uncertainty and the strong performance we saw in the second half of fiscal 2020. In the commercial segment, we are assuming there will be economic stability with some improvement in the second half of the fiscal year, leading to our projection of net sales declining at the mid-single-digit range year-over-year. We expect total capital to be in the $125 million to $135 million range as we work through our capacity program, primarily in decking and the addition of a third low-density polyethylene recycling line. To assist in modeling, our tax rate for 2021 is estimated to be approximately 26%, and our diluted share count is estimated to be approximately 157 million shares. I'll now turn the call back to Jesse for some closing remarks.
Jesse Singh
Thanks, Ralph. I would also like to recognize our team for their continued leadership in our response to the pandemic and its impact. Consistent with our core value, do the right thing, Our first priority has been and will continue to be the safety of our employees, our customers, and our communities. Thank you to the entire ASAC team and our channel partners for your commitment and dedication. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Operator
Certainly. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question or one follow-up question. Thank you. Our first question comes from Matthew Boulay from Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Matthew Boulay
Good morning. Congrats on the results, and thanks for taking the questions. The first one on the 21 revenue guidance of 10% to 14% growth. So you're guiding Q1 in the low 20s, so suggesting the balance of the year is perhaps in the 10% range. You know, you've got new capacity coming online. There's presumably some price flowing through in there. Is there anything specific that would cause some deceleration on the volume side, offsetting those, you know, thinking about maybe the sustainability of this type of demand in a post-vaccine world or mainly just kind of general conservatism at this early point in the year? Thank you.
Jesse Singh
uh look as as we've talked about um we uh we see some really really uh positive signs relative to uh you know the signals that we see we see strong um you know demand profiles strong backlog uh currently um and uh we we see you know you know the leading indicators um very very positive as as we um As we've mapped this out, you know, we take all of that into account. And, you know, specifically the forecast that we've laid out we think reflects, you know, the combination of these positive factors. Also understanding that, you know, we've got some strong quarters in the back half of the year. I'll pause there. Ralph, is there any additional color you'd like to add to that?
Accent Shingle Siding
And just, you know, just the visibility, you know, the tight visibility we clearly have is, you know, in the first three to six months of the fiscal year. So, you know, we factor that in and, you know, we're very mindful of, you know, we're You know, we're providing guidance on a full year when, you know, most of the visibility sits in the first half of the year at this point in time. But, you know, all the indicators, as Jesse mentioned, are, you know, are positive in terms of leading indicators. We just wanted to be, you know, appropriate in terms of looking out that far.
Matthew Boulay
Understood. Okay. Thank you both for that. Second one on the pricing side. You know, you disclosed the low single-digit price increase, I guess, the second year in a row that you've now raised price. So going forward, do you think pricing is going to kind of remain that sort of opportunistic tool that I think it once was? Or are you kind of looking to condition the industry to, you know, more consistent annual price increases? Thank you.
Jesse Singh
Yeah, I think as you look at the structure of the market, we believe that we're in a market that provides the right kind of value equation such that we should be able to appropriately offset inflationary costs with pricing actions. And as you mentioned, it's really been three out of the last four years that that we've taken pricing actions as there's been both labor and raw material inflation. But we believe we're, you know, in that type of an industry. Okay. Thank you, Jesse. Thanks, Raul.
Operator
Your next question comes from Susan McClary from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
Susan McClary
My next question is also on thinking a little bit about the revenue guide for fiscal 2021. With that 10% to 14%, can you give us some color on how you factored in the incremental capacity that's coming online over the course of next year into that? And, you know, does that suggest that maybe there's some potential upside as we think about that range that you've provided?
Accent Shingle Siding
Good question. You know, Susan, as the capacity, you know, comes online, as we talked about, you know, it's a 70% increase over the next, you know, now 15 to 18 months or so, you know, coming on. So that is factored in. You know, we leave, you know, but it builds during the year, you know, particularly as we get into the second half of our fiscal year and calendar year in 2021. So some of that's factored in. As you would expect, we put guidance out there that we clearly have a line of sight to be able to produce to and have some room to go above that. But that's how we factored it in.
Jesse Singh
And just to add, as we bring capacity online, clearly in the short term that capacity is needed. You know, as we highlighted on the call, as we move into the out months, we also want to make sure that we have capacity to continue to provide appropriate service to our customers. And so, you know, as you think in the back half of the year of the capacity coming online, it's a combination of meeting demand but also making sure that we're in a good position to service customers.
Susan McClary
Gotcha. Okay, thank you. And then my follow up question is just, you know, as we think about the very low levels of inventory that are sitting across the channel in there, how are you thinking about seasonality for 21? Are there any changes that we should be aware of as we kind of think about the modeling and perhaps the cadence of the quarters next year?
Jesse Singh
You know, typically what you, just to remind folks on the call, typically what you see from a seasonality perspective with us is a slowing, you know, end demand as northern climates compress their activity and, you know, a process by which stocking increases at the various stages in the channel system. And so at a high level, you know, that thesis and that normalcy will play out. I think the variability that you might see this year just has to do with, you know, the two key elements I highlighted, right? What's the demand process, which you have in any year? What's the demand as you move into seasonal months? And what's the inventory level in the channel? So I think there's normal seasonality. I think you're just dealing with slightly different variables, which you will every year.
Susan McClary
Okay, thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from Phil Ng from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Phil Ng
Hey, good morning, everyone. Congrats on a very impressive quarter. Hey, Jesse, I think you kind of flagged in the call that some of the greenfield capacity you're adding right now is going to be targeted on the west, which was new for me. Does that open a door for new opportunities that perhaps wasn't available previously now that you have more of a national footprint out west? And does that provide any real cost savings on the logistics and transportation side of things?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, first off, we've had a really nice national footprint, actually a footprint that strengthened last year with some of the distribution changes. So we've been in a good position to service the market just because we maintain inventory through our distributors on the ground. Obviously, when you put a facility closer to a customer set, that potentially gives – some advantages relative to what you highlighted, right, you know, shorter transportation times, lower logistics costs. So I think incrementally it's a natural part of our expansion as a company to continue to get capacity you know, closer to the customers. So, you know, I think incrementally there might be a benefit, but I want to highlight that we were well positioned prior to this, but getting that capacity out there, you know, we like the potential benefit of adding additional capacity closer to various customer sets.
Phil Ng
Got it. That makes a lot of sense. And in some of the strength that you're seeing, at least in the first quarter for your residential business, Are you seeing any lift perhaps from some pre-buying ahead of your price increase, any load in? You talked about how inventory levels are still relatively low on a year-to-year basis. When do you kind of expect your channel partners to have inventory levels at a more normalized level?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, on the, you know, with respect to, you know, whether or not there's pre-buy, we really don't view that as, you know, impacting our results right now. We announced the, you know, the pricing changes we talked about, you know, actually last quarter and, you know, it's just working its way through the system and, you know, we give relatively long lead times to our channel partners to make sure that they can appropriately adjust what they need to adjust. I forgot your second question. I'm sorry.
Phil Ng
You talked about how inventory levels are still kind of lower on a year-over-year basis. As you kind of ramp up this capacity, is there a good way to think about when you expect that to be at a more normalized level in terms of inventory at your channel partners or lead times in general?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, I think as I mentioned earlier, it's really an outcome of what's our demand and our ability to service that demand. We continue to see and expect over the next three to six months that we'll have an opportunity to continue to ramp up some of the inventory at our channel partners to come to more normalized and preseason levels. So we would expect that to occur more um uh you know on a normalized pace uh you know during the next quarter the specifics of whether or not we we get to you know um the exact number is really going to be dependent on the demand cycle um you know that we see relative to the amount of inventory that's going to be placed got it that's super helpful thank you your next question comes from mike doll from rbc capital markets please go ahead your line is open hi thanks for taking my questions
spk03
I wanted to ask first about recycling. Sounds like just on the numbers you laid out, I think you hit where your targets were, about 54% of recycled overall, and you talked about the split between the products. Obviously, you're continuing to integrate return polymers. It sounds like there's some other initiatives. Can you just give a sense of, you know, as we think out over the next year and potentially beyond how we should be thinking about the kind of continued migration towards recycling and any quantification you give there?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, I'll give it to you at a high level. You know, as I mentioned on the call, You know, the first stage and the first aspect of this is increasing our use of recycle. And, you know, as I highlighted on the call, return polymers has really been an asset there. You know, on our deck boards, you know, in particular on cap polymer, our PVC boards, there might be some additional opportunity to expand that over the next 18 months or so in terms of the percentage. And there might be additional opportunity to expand our use of recycle in some of our non-decking products, which is where return polymers comes in. So at a very high level, we're in a really good spot on the percentage we use, and there might be some additional opportunity there. Specifically on vertical integration, which is the second component I talked about, We have our third line, polyethylene line, coming on online, you know, over the next few months. And, you know, that gives us some additional insourcing capability. And we'll continue to expand and incrementally invest in return polymers to make sure we're in a good position there. So that's relative to insourcing. And then the third component relative to formulation that we've talked about, which is basically moving to lower-cost recycle materials, when we see an opportunity to do that through sourcing, and we talked about a couple of the initiatives that we have, we can continue to do that, and we'll continue to do that on an ongoing basis. Think of that as sourcing savings. That's an opportunity that has a longer tail. Relative to the specific reformulations, we will, as we talked about on the last call, bring that in on a phased basis, and we need to make sure that that's well aligned with our capacity addition. So, you know, just at a very high level, those are the types of milestones that we work internally. In aggregate, as you can see, you know, it gives us an opportunity for an ongoing execution across those three items.
spk03
Okay, thanks, Jesse. My second one relates to competition, and clearly it's a unique and robust environment from a demand standpoint, and both you and your largest competitor can't even meet the demand, as you've articulated. But we have seen a number of new product launches and introductions, I think, from not necessarily your largest peer, but some of the next-tier competitors. and maybe some newer entrants, particularly at the low end. So I understand that some of these aren't quite as broad as the product offering that you guys would have, but can you just speak to kind of competitive dynamics, what you're seeing on new entrants or expansions from some of your second or third tier competitors and how we should be thinking about your moat against them? further penetration from those?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, as we've talked about in general, we believe that we have significant strength in terms of our presence on the ground and the contractors that we work with. In general, given the demand environment and some supply constraints, What you see geography to geography is in certain geographies, we pick up share against all competitors. And in certain other geographies, you know, there are some small transactional occurrences where, you know, as you mentioned, some of the third-tier players may pick up a job or a specific situation. In general, as we look at it in aggregate, I think it's important to see our growth rates You know, the fact that between ourselves and our nearest competitor, we make up, you know, a significant part of the market. And you can see from our growth rates, you know, vis-a-vis the rest of the industry, that our share position at an aggregate level we believe is in a really nice position and continues to be in a nice position. So, you know, hopefully that answers your question. In general, we don't, you know, to summarize, we're not seeing a significant shift in competitive dynamics. And I think that's borne out when you take a look at our deck rail and accessories growth relative to the industry and also what we've guided you to.
spk03
Yeah, that helps. Appreciate the insight. Thanks.
Jesse Singh
Yeah, and one last, you know, just quick comment here. You know, on a relative basis, if someone launches a product and picks up, you know, a few jobs, that is minuscule compared to really what we see as the aggregate competitive dynamic, which is continuing to drive conversion from wood to our types of materials. And in general, what I would say is day-to-day, that's really where we're focused is to make sure that we're expanding the market.
spk03
Right. Okay. Thanks, Jesse.
Operator
Your next question comes from Keith Hughes from Truist. Your line is open.
spk11
Thank you. I want to dig into your recycling, the 54% of inputs being recycled in 2020. Is that a combination of your polyethylene and PVC usage, or what is that referring to?
Jesse Singh
That refers to all extrusion that we do. And so extrusion, you know, roughly is 90% of what we sell. So think of extrusion as, you know, all of our products effectively. That's not the fabrication or the other elements. So, you know, that number is off a very large base.
spk11
Okay. What do you stand right now on polyethylene versus PVC?
Jesse Singh
So on our polyethylene, which is used in our cap composite deck boards, we use 100% wood in the core and 100% recycled polyethylene in the core. We do use virgin in the cap that surrounds that core, and we will continue to use virgin there. We find that the aesthetic and And weathering performance is really what we like with having virgin in the core. Similarly, on the PVC side, on our PVC decking, we're, you know, right around 50% recycle in the core, and that's primarily plastic with a little bit of adder in the core. And then the calf, once again, is 100% virgin. Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from Ryan Merkle from William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Ryan Merkle
Hey, everyone. Two questions for me. First, 2021 guidance seems to imply flat or slightly higher resi segment EBITDA margins. So is this due to startup costs offsetting aims and recycling talents?
Accent Shingle Siding
Hey, Ryan. Good morning, Terrell. You know, first, just coming back to my remarks that, you know, that I shared. you know, we do expect, you know, in 21 continuing adjusted EBITDA margin, you know, improvement. And, you know, and just to remind you, the puts and takes there are, you know, we do have, you know, additional startup costs from capacity expansion. We also have raw material and labor inflation. And importantly, you know, there's costs of being a public company. You know, that's all in total more than offset you know, with pricing and manufacturing cost savings from, you know, largely the recycle initiatives. You know, the public company cost step up doesn't hit the segments. So when you look at that in a segment level, you'll get a little bit of a different view, you know, because our segments won't have most of the public company cost in them. So, you know, we feel good about the progress. We, you know, we grew our EBITDA margins 110 basis points and And, you know, as I remarked, you know, we're expecting an aggregate that, you know, we're expecting an aggregate improvement again in 21. But the segments aren't weighed down by, you know, some of the public company expenses that we, you know, we have to take on.
Jesse Singh
Yeah, and just as a reminder, we only had one quarter really, you know, a little more than a quarter as a, you know, as a public company. And so, you know, we have additional year-over-year public company costs that will incur in 21. So, you know, our guidance is all in relative to those increase in costs.
Ryan Merkle
Perfect. That's helpful. And then secondly, Jesse, maybe just talk a little bit more about the new products that you just announced. Why is shingle siding and cladding attractive? You know, what's the opportunity that you see?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, you know, so when you take a look at our exteriors business, you know, it is, in effect, a very niche, selective exteriors business. We focus on trim, which is one of our core products, and that market is still 40% wood. And so, you know, trim is a great product for us, unlike siding, which is, you know, in the low teens in terms of its wood percentage. So there's still a significant opportunity there. And then you add to that, you know, the additional products that we have right now, which are value-added products that provide some benefit on the outside of homes. And so for us, that's been things like column wraps and additional accents and corners on the outside of a house. So if you think of shingle siding and the way it's positioned, it's typically a niche product. that's used as an accent on the outside. And our value proposition fits really well in terms of much easier to handle, easier to install. You don't have some of the environmental concerns that you might with other products. And it's very, very lightweight and paintable. And so it's a natural extension for us in terms of those high value added niche products. And then similarly on the cladding side, you know, our unique aesthetics relative to what we can do with our TimberTech Azek deck boards, whether it's wide width or, you know, the very high-end hardwood aesthetic. That particular aesthetic is becoming more and more important, either on commercial buildings as they look to refresh it or on houses as they as people look to upgrade the exterior look. And, in fact, we do AIA training. And, you know, using our high-end deck boards as cladding is one of the most sought-after training modules that we have. And so these are natural niche extensions of our product line that sustain the value and focus on wood replacement.
Ryan Merkle
That's helpful. Thanks. I'll pass it on.
Operator
Your next question comes from Selden Clark from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Selden Clark
Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. So net leverage is well below what you kind of talked about coming out of your IPO at just over, you know, one times net debt to EBITDA. So can you just give us a sense of how you're thinking about leverage moving forward and maybe like what your appetite for M&A is from here?
Accent Shingle Siding
Yeah, maybe I'll start there, Selden. Good morning. First, you know, as you point out, you know, our leverage is low, you know, especially relative to, you know, what we said is our ongoing sort of target range in the low to mid twos. So we're in a great position. It gives us a lot of flexibility, you know, and, you know, so when you go back to our capital priorities, you know, the first is, You know, and use of cash, it's to invest in the business, to, you know, drive continued organic growth. You know, and then secondarily is, you know, using cash to availability to fund, you know, selective M&A that, you know, strategically, you know, is additive to the core organic piece. So it's a great opportunity for us, and we're in a good position.
Selden Clark
Okay. And when you talk about, I guess, some of those, you know, M&A potential opportunities, are you thinking more from a, you know, product category perspective? Or could that be, you know, more on the recycling side again, like you saw with the Palmer's investment? Like, how are you kind of just thinking about the scale there?
Jesse Singh
So when, you know, we really, really like our business model, you know, the ability to have branded products that have differentiated R&D that leverage integrated manufacturing and recycle, that have sticky customers, that play in this wood conversion exteriors market. So given that we like that business model, that really ends up being the filter for any acquisition that we look at. And as you highlighted, if you look at our – You know, our recent acquisitions, you know, one was a bit of a market consolidation. One was a tuck-in product that's really given us some nice momentum in the rail business. And the third was a vertical integration on recycle. I think all of those are, you know, indicative products. of the types of acquisitions that we'll continue to look at. We really like our core. We really like the market opportunity here. And we believe that there could be opportunities to really strengthen that core value proposition.
Selden Clark
Okay, that's helpful. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from Tim Woj from Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Tim Woj
Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for fitting me in. Just a couple of quick ones. I guess first on trim relative to DRNA, as you were thinking about the outlook, any meaningful difference in growth rates there from your perspective? And then the second is on price cost. Do you expect price costs to be positive in your guidance, or do you expect most of the incremental costs from raw materials and just some people costs kind of eat away at that?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, let me take the first one, and Ralph, you can take the second one. We've obviously talked about deck rail and accessories, and you can see the growth right there. Our exteriors business has been doing quite well. The combination of new products, wood conversion, and a really nice share position and a solidifying share position. All of those variables have led to above market growth. So as you look back, we would, without giving specifics on the breakdown between the two businesses, I think what would be relevant is just to look back historically and see how we've done there. And we fully expect to be able to you know, continue to grow both businesses at a healthy level. So, Ralph, I'll turn it over to you for the other question.
Accent Shingle Siding
Ralph Cullinan Hey, Tim. Good morning. You know, as it relates to pricing, you know, clearly we're seeing, you know, raw material and labor inflation. You know, that clearly factored into, you know, the timing and depth of pricing that we took. Again, as I come back to, you know, just if you step back on overall EBITDA margins, you know, that we're also managing. You know, we do expect some improvement in 21, as I said in my remarks. But so the pricing, you know, that we took is a lever. Clearly, the cost savings from recycling and our AIMS initiatives are a lever to help offset the raw material and labor, you know, and some of the costs that, you know, we'll see related to the capacity expansion and the public company costs. So, When you put that together, we feel like we're continuing to move our margin improvement program well.
Tim Woj
Okay, great. Good luck on the year, guys. Thanks for all the color. Great, thanks.
Operator
As a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up question. Thank you. Your next question comes from Alex Ragiel from B. Reilly Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Alex Ragiel
Thank you. Nice quarter, gentlemen. One quick question. You mentioned in your prepared remarks, demand is greater than current capacity. What is your current lead time today and what is your target? And when do you think you might achieve that target?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, we, you know, relative to that, You know, we happen to be, if there's a pause on my part, we happen to be in an early buy period. And, you know, when we're in that period, we work with our channel partners to make sure that, you know, we're creating a schedule of shipments. So at this time of the year, you know, the concept of lead time is, is not as relevant as it might be in season. It's really, really important that we continue to work with our channel partners such that they have the right inventory in place to offer the right service to their customers. In general, I would say lead time depends on specific products. And typically, historically, we've been in, let's say, three to four-week lead time scenario. And as we rebuild inventory in the channel and as we bring additional capacity online, we hope to be in a position over the summer to start moving back to that sort of direction. But as we've talked about on the call right now, we see robust demand. We've got additional capacity coming online. And it's really that combination of
spk08
uh that will determine the the specific timing of of when that occurs thank you your last question will come from trey grooms from stevens please go ahead your line is open hi good morning everybody thanks for for sneaking me in here um but one for me it's really around the uh recycling uh a recycled material uh just diving into that just a little bit further so On the composite decking piece, you know, you're at 80% recycled content in the cap composite products. And you note in the presentation and, you know, you've talked about it in the past, optimizing the formulation there from high density polyethylene to low density. Where are we right now in that process? You know, kind of what's the mix and where do you see that going over time? And, you know, kind of what's the opportunity there?
Jesse Singh
Yeah, we don't disclose specifics, you know, relative to that. Let's just say that, you know, from a journey perspective, you know, we're still someplace in the first half of that journey. And, you know, as we bring capacity online, we will stage in the transition to the lower cost formulations. And so, you know, the specifics of that, you know, as I mentioned, it's a subcomponent of the aggregate recycling. The specifics of that, you know, we're not disclosing except to say that, you know, we are very much on track with that execution. You can see it in our margin structure and you can see it in, you know, the fact that we continue to see positive leverage in aggregate as we move forward. But, you know, over the long run, you know, we should expect to continue to see that both percentage shift and also the way in which we source those lower cost materials improve.
spk08
Okay, got it. So I guess with the new capacity coming on, it will be kind of a step function in that initiative to increase that, you know, lower cost material content.
Jesse Singh
Once again, I want to make sure, you know, we highlight, we're not given any specifics on that except to say that we're staging the you know, we're staging that conversion to be consistent with getting our capacity up and running. So in some cases we do it before, some cases we do it after. So, you know, those are staged, not necessarily always in sync.
spk08
Okay, fair enough. Thank you.
Operator
We are out of time for questions today. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Jesse Singh for any closing remarks.
Jesse Singh
Hey, thank you all for taking the time. You know, really appreciate it. As you can tell, we're pretty excited about, you know, the opportunity that we see ahead of us, and we're excited about our execution. So just once again, I want to thank all of, not only all of you on the phone, but, you know, all of the great associates we have within the company and our great customers for partnering with us and growing with us during a very unique and challenging year, and we look forward to more of that to come. So thank you, and we'll chat with you on the next call.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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