3/13/2025

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

Good day and welcome to the BDSF Inc. Fiscal Year Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. We are opening questions only for analysts today. And to ask questions, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. And to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Sandy Martin with three-part advisors. Please go ahead, ma'am.

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Sandy Martin
Three-Part Advisors

Sandy Martin Good morning. Thank you for joining us for today's BGSF's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. With me on the call today are Beth Garvey, Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Keith Schroeder, newly appointed Chief Financial Officer. After our prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. As noted, today's call is being webcast live. A replay will be available later today and archived on the company's investor relations page at investor.bgsf.com. Today's discussion will include forward-looking statements which are based on certain assumptions made by the company under the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements, because of various risks and uncertainties, including those listed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Management statements are made as of today, and the company assumes no obligation to update these statements publicly, even if new information becomes available in the future. Management will refer to non-GAAP measures, including adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations to the nearest GAAP measures can be found at the end of our earnings release. I'll now turn the call over to Beth Garvey.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Sandy, and good morning, everyone. I appreciate you joining us today. I'd like to begin by addressing our CFO transition. Yesterday, we announced the appointment of Keith Schroeder as our new Chief Financial Officer. We are thrilled to welcome Keith to the BGSF team. He's a transformational leader with extensive public company experience, bringing strategic, operational, and financial expertise that will strengthen our finance and accounting functions. I also want to express my deep appreciation for John Barnett and his contributions to BGSF during a pivotal and transformative period in our company's history. On behalf of our leadership team and the board, I thank John for his dedication and wish him the very best in his future endeavors. Additionally, I'm proud to share that BGSF has once again been recognized as one of the best places for working parents, marking our fifth consecutive year of receiving this award. Moving on to restructuring our strategic updates, as you recall in December, we announced a significant restructuring plan aimed at reducing costs, improving operational performance, and positioning BGSF for profitable growth. We anticipate cash savings of approximately $7 to $9 million in 2025 from these initiatives, which included headcount reductions and streamlined indirect costs. Furthermore, by shifting our IT middleware maintenance and development to lower-cost, near-shore support with Arroyo, we expect to save an additional $800,000 annually in capital and cash expenditures. Both of our business segments also underwent an organizational restructure, which we believe will enhance communication, improve operational consistency, and drive efficiency gains, ultimately supporting long-term growth. Regarding our strategic alternative process, our timeline remains unchanged. We continue to expect this to be a 12- to 18-month process from our initial announcement in May of 2024. While we are making progress, we recognize that economic and political uncertainties have created a more cautious environment. We remain committed to providing updates when we have definitive developments to share. Before Keith provides financial results, I'd like to highlight key trends in our business segments. Professional segment. Our monthly IT contract revenue normalized for billing days reached its lowest point in June of 2024. However, since then, revenue has stabilized or grown sequentially, with positive trends continuing into January and February of 2025. Fourth quarter revenues were down 3% sequentially, reflecting normal holiday seasonality. However, adjusted for billing days, Q4 was approximately up 2% sequentially. Encouragingly, we added 50 new logos in Q4 and saw a 30% increase in signed master service agreements compared to Q4 of 2023. Increased customer engagement and scope meetings suggest a growing opportunity pipeline, reinforcing our confidence in positive trajectory. In the property management segment, we took decisive action to align direct and indirect operating costs with revenue, improving overall efficiency. The broader multifamily housing sector remains challenged by rising operating expenses and credit challenges. However, we are optimistic about improvement in revenue trends starting in mid-2025. Our territory mapping initiative in key markets drove a 23% increase in revenue and remains a top priority for expansion in 2025. We continue to see year-over-year growth for our exclusive and semi-exclusive preferred vendor agreements, positioning BGSF as a go-to partner for our property management clients. Now I'll turn the call over to Keith to walk us through the financial results.

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Keith Schroeder
Chief Financial Officer

Keith? Thank you, Beth, and good morning, everyone. I am honored to join BGSF and look forward to meeting many of you as we engage with investors in the coming months. Turning to our fourth quarter performance, our fourth quarter revenue was $64.4 million compared to $73.6 million in Q4 of 2023. which is reflecting declines in both segments. Our professional segment revenue declines narrowed to 8.7% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. On a billing day adjusted basis, our professional revenue grew 2% sequentially. Property management segment absorbs significant restructuring changes, which, while challenging, have now aligned the business with forecasted revenue levels. Property management revenue experienced normal seasonality increase in Q3. As we moved into Q4, we experienced a larger than normal seasonality decline. We attribute this decline in part due to actions we took to stop servicing certain credit risk and disruption as we executed the restructuring initiative. Now turning to our profitability and margins, our gross profit, It was $21.5 million in Q4 with a margin of 33.3% as compared to 34.6% in the prior year. This is largely due to increased competition and economic pressures in property management. SG&A expenses were $20.8 million compared to $22.0 million in Q3 and $20.2 million in Q4 of 2023. Our adjusted EBITDA was $1.4 million, or 2.2% of revenue, versus $3.4 million, or 4.8% in Q3. On a net income basis, we reported a gap loss of $0.10 per diluted share and an adjusted loss of $0.06 per diluted share, which includes a $1.4 million gain resulting from reduction in the expected auroral turnout. Our priority remains enhancing profitability in 2025. With that, I'll hand it back to Beth for closing remarks.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Keith. As I mentioned last quarter, we launched an advanced lead generation engine in Q3, generating $2 million in revenue in just six months for our property management team. Encouraged by its success, we expanded this initiative to our finance and accounting teams last month where we were already seeing positive early results. Additionally, we recently restructured our technology and digital marketing teams Launching an operational excellence team focused on streamlining workflows and service delivery, identifying gaps and opportunities, and leveraging AI to improve productivity and eliminating repetitive tasks. This initiative reflects our data-driven approach to business process optimization, ensuring disciplined execution of repeatable, high-impact processes. Simply put, we are applying our own best practices and consulting expertise to drive operational excellence within BGSF. Looking ahead, we are laser-focused on revenue growth and profitability improvement, which will enhance cash flow and shareholder value. Our restructuring plans have positioned us for greater financial efficiency, while our investments in technology, partnership, and people continue to drive long-term value creation. We've built strong relationships with industry leaders across IT with our SAP, Workday, Oracle, ServiceNow, and Microsoft partnerships and property management, large commercial and residential leasing companies. Additionally, our managed solutions, near-shore, offshore engineering, and AI capabilities give us a competitive edge in an evolving market. I want to thank our team members, our board, and our investors for their continued dedication and belief in our strategy. Now let's open the call for questions. As a reminder, we have no new updates on the strategic alternative process, so we kindly ask you to refrain from questions on that topic.

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

Operator? Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. And at this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And the first question will come from Howard Halpern with Taggledge Partners. Please go ahead, sir.

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Howard Halpern
Taggledge Partners

Good morning, guys, and nice to talk to you, Keith. Good morning. So in terms of the restructuring and streamlining, What type of cadence could we expect in terms of seeing that on the SG&A line as we go through the upcoming quarters?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

The majority of those cuts, Howard, took place in December, and so they will start showing up in Q1. The majority of that was in people. So you'll see in the results for Q1 some of those reductions. Some of the other reductions will take place throughout the year as we eliminate contracts that we were not going to renew, and they start to fall off.

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Howard Halpern
Taggledge Partners

Okay. And how is the process, I guess, going with relocating, you know, some of what you've done to your Arroyo operations? And how is that process going, and how are you, you know, seeing that?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Well, we're super proud of the abilities that the Royal team has. And as we move, we start to identify things that we can move to the team down there. We will continue to try to streamline costs that are in both our home office efforts and our IT efforts to be able to utilize the team down there.

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Howard Halpern
Taggledge Partners

Okay. Now, you talked about, I guess you're still seeing some of the headwinds in property management. What do you hope to see in the second half that will turn those headwinds into tailwinds?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Well, as you know, we're very active in the National Apartment Association, and there's been many, many conversations that Kelly Brown has had amongst the peers that she deals with there. And they are all hopeful for the second half of the year.

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Howard Halpern
Taggledge Partners

Okay. And in the professional services, what kind of feedback are you getting from your customers on, you know, what you're offering Arroyo? And are you just seeing – are you seeing more activity? You talked about, I guess, 15 new logos. Are you making progress with new – logos as the quarters unfold?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

We are. There are several new logos coming in. There's a lot of activity in the pipeline. Our teams are having more scope meetings than they've had probably in the last 18 months, which is a good sign as we continue to power forward through the year. I think that there's some optimism. that came out of the election, and then there's been a slight pause on that optimism as the tariff conversations continue. But for the most part, I think there's a cautious optimism out there.

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Howard Halpern
Taggledge Partners

Okay. Okay, guys. Keep up the good and the hard work that you have to get done in this industry. Thank you.

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

Thanks, Howard. Thank you, Howard. The next question will come from Jeff Martin with Roth Capital. Please go ahead.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Thanks. Good morning, Beth and Keith. I was wondering if you could characterize on the professional side, you know, the budget spend allocation among your clients.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

I know a lot of companies have shifted towards AI related projects. Wondering if that can benefit you going forward or if that's been a headwind that you have to overcome.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. You know, AI is one of those tricky things. So I think the great thing about where we are right now is our acquisition of the Arroyo team. They have those capabilities. And so we are having many conversations with clients in regards to AI tools that we can offer. And I think that that's, you know, it's interesting to see how our clients come to us with our problems. And then when we get engaged with the Arroyo team, how they can come through and actually solve those problems, and it's all through AI technology. And we're just, I think, dipping our toe in what the capabilities are at this point, but what we're seeing early is very, very exciting.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Great. And then at what point in 2025 do you expect the full run rate of the 7 to 9 million annual cost savings to be captured? As I understand it now, The majority of that work was done in Q4, but there will be a little more as we progress throughout 2025.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Jeff, you are really cutting out. So if I understood your question is when are we going to see the full effect of the cuts that we made? Was that the question?

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

It is. I apologize. I got rid of my headset. Is this better?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

That's better. Yes, perfect. Thank you.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Okay.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Sorry about that. It's okay.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Yeah, I was curious the extent of what kind of time frame to realize the full run rate of the $7 to $9 million savings. And as I understand it, most of that was done in Q4, but there's a little more to go as we progress throughout the year in 2025. Just curious if you can elaborate on that.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Well, again, the majority of the cost savings was in people, and those took place in December. So you'll see those in, I think it's in Q1 for sure. And then the other changes really was kind of in cost structure for changing of commission plans. And those took place in February and in March. So you'll see the full effect of the commission plans going into Q2.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Okay. And just curious, out of those cuts in personnel, could you help us understand how many of those were revenue driving? Are we going to see some revenue impact related to that in the first half of the year, and what strategically can you do to grow your way back out of that?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

A lot of the cuts were back office. They were home office folks. We did have some restructure when both divisions did their restructure. We got rid of kind of a mid-manager level out in the field, and that restructure It was a little disruptive on the property management side because, you know, we have markets that are a salesperson, so that salesperson has the relationships in the market. So when we changed some of those and took our mid-level folks and pushed them down into a selling role back out in the field, they had to reestablish those relationships. So we'll see a little disruption in that. and I think they have leveled out. We saw that early in December and in early January, but I think that is all leveled out right now. And then professional has been really kind of managing the underperformers all along, and so it was less disruptive for the professional team.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Okay, great. And then on the property management side, how much of your footprint is, you know, utilizing the territory mapping today? Is it 100% or is it, you know, a lower percentage? And if that's the case, what's the timeline for reaching 100% on the territory mapping?

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

And we've launched Houston, which is where we had the growth that I mentioned earlier. And then Atlanta has launched as well. We are in the process of launching Dallas. So we have started to hire that team here in Dallas, Fort Worth. And I believe there's a few other markets that we'll go after this year, and those will be in June.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Excellent. That's it for me. Thank you.

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

Thanks, Jeff.

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Jeff Martin
Roth Capital

Thank you.

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Beth Garvey for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, ma'am.

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Beth Garvey
Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for your time today. We appreciate your continued support, and we look forward to updating you on our quarter results in May. Have a great day.

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Conference Call Operator
Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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