Blend Labs, Inc.

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to Blen's Financial Results Conference Call for the second quarter of 2026. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to management for their prepared remarks. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon and welcome to Blend's financial results conference call for the second quarter of 2026. I'm Meg Nunnally, Blend's head of investor relations. Joining me today is Nima Ghamsari, our co-founder and head of Blend, and Jason Ream, our head of finance and administration. Before we start today's call, I'd like to note that we will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, which are reconciled to GAAP measures in today's earnings release and in the appendix of our supplemental slides. Non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for GAAP results. Unless otherwise stated, all financial measures we'll discuss today, including our profitability, refer to non-GAAP. Also, certain statements made during today's conference call regarding Blend and its operations, in particular, our guidance for the third and fourth quarter of 2026, other commentary regarding 2026, and our expectations about markets, our strategic investments, Product development plans and operational targets may be considered forward-looking statements under federal securities law. We caution you that forward-looking statements involve substantial risks and uncertainties, and a number of factors, many of which are beyond the company's control, could cause actual results, events, or circumstances to differ materially from those described in these statements. Please see the risk factors we've identified in our most recent 10Qs, our 10K for the fiscal year 2025, and other SEC filings. Thanks, Meg.

and welcome everyone. The second quarter was another disciplined, profitable quarter for Blend. Revenue came in near the high end of our guidance range and non-GAAP operating income came in above the high end. And Jason will take you through all the financial details in a few minutes. But today, I want to spend my time on the two pillars of our strategy. Autopilot, the agents we build for our customers, and Blend 3.0. Let me start with Autopilot. The big news for us last quarter was that Autopilot became commercially available on July 1st. If you're following along on the webcast, I'd invite you to advance this slide with the words, our AI strategy, guiding our customers at the top. This is the first of two slides that I'll reference today, and the charts on these slides are also available in the supplemental slides on our investor relations website. The chart shows cumulative loans processed by autopilot from a standing start in February to more than 45,000 today, and it's still compounding. The curve is the proof behind everything I'm about to tell you. During this four-month window, more than 65 lenders activated autopilot. They stress tested, surfaced the hard edge cases, and shaped what we shipped. and the preview data backs up why this matters. We're starting to see evidence Autopilot is driving faster clearance times, higher conversion rates and potentially reducing fulfillment costs. Based on our preliminary data of these loans that have gone through our system, our customers are seeing a 10 to 15% improvement in pull-through rates and two to four days of cycle time improvement. Furthermore, we estimate that Autopilot is automating four and a half hours of loan fulfillment tasks on average per loan. This is huge, and our customers are just beginning to grasp the potential. Now that we are commercial as of July 1st, six lenders have already signed contracts that include Autopilot, including Onity, which is one of the largest mortgage servicers in the nation, which is also building its own experiences on top of Autopilot through our Autopilot MCP server. On monetization, we're executing the plan we described in May, with customers signing flat fee one-year contracts for full access. There's going to be a base level of intelligence built into our workflows, but the paid tiers are where the full product lives, what we call our underwriting intelligence, where Autopilot is reading documents, running calculations, reconciling against guidelines, and driving the full loan file forward. Over time, our intent remains to move the paid tiers to a per-funded loan model, just like the rest of our mortgage suite. And when seed-based pricing, which we don't think survives the agentic world when software does the work, You can't charge by the person. It doesn't make any sense. And others are also moving the consumption models to get paid for the activity their AI generates. We made a different choice, which is we get paid on success. We get paid on the outcome, not for the tasks along the way, but for the outcome. So if Autopilot does 10 times the work on a file that never closes, our customers shouldn't pay 10 times more for it. And under our model, they won't. Our revenue scales with our customer success, and that alignment is the business model we've always had. Agendic AI just makes it more valuable and more scalable. Since I get asked about the competitive landscape constantly, let me be direct about it. What gives Blend the right to win? Our answer comes down to four advantages that are hard to replicate. First, where we sit. Blend is the borrower's first point of contact. And because we're there, we see the problems and we fix the problems as they come along. More than half of borrowers apply outside of business hours, and over 90% of people who complete an application do so within 24 hours of starting. Autopilot catches friction the moment it happens, at 10 p.m. on a Saturday, not Monday morning, at the exact moment the borrower intent is the highest and the engagement is the highest. Next, our data. The question behind every AI question I get is, in a world where anybody can call a frontier model like Claude, is a software like ours replaceable? We believe the answer is no, and the reason is our data. Models are converging, and everyone has access to the same models, including us. But what isn't a commodity is what it takes to get the model to perform on a mortgage that has tons of context, tons of loan documents, guidelines, and lots of things that have to be taken into account to make the right next action on the loan. And that's a combination of 15 years of experience and tens of millions of loan application data processing through our platform, which you can't buy. and you can't synthesize 15 years of real borrower behavior and that compounds. I actually see this in our early autopilot benchmarks against a typical Claude plus skills and we see that autopilot performs better in those tests and much better and much cheaper, about one third the cost. Third, the harness. Autopilot is not a wrapper around a generic model. It runs inside of the infrastructure, the data layer, the integrations, the compliance architecture, orchestrating what the agent sees, what tools it can use, which guidelines to apply to a specific loan in front of it, and what happens when it isn't sure. It hands the file back to the loan team. People stay in control of the decisions that matter, and this harness is part of what makes Autopilot more accurate and cheaper than a generic harness. And last, our relationships. We've spent 15 years building alongside lenders, and Autopilot was built the same way, with lenders, for lenders. and with Autopilot MCP, we've opened up our infrastructure so customers and other technology providers can build on top of us rather than around us. And when you step back, this is the bigger thesis. Blend is and can be the agentic infrastructure for relationship banking. The original promise of banking was a relationship, a lender who got to know you and could make a call based on more than just a credit score. That promise didn't disappear because bankers stopped caring. It disappeared because there's so much process and there's so much manual work and manual effort that has to go in to every single loan. But when Autopilot is handling that grunt work on the loans and helping the people who historically did that focus on the customer, when Autopilot's handling those conditions, the follow-ups, the questions that come in at 2 in the morning, and the loan officer can get back to the capacity of serving the customer, I started Blend with my co-founders back in 2012 with a simple thesis. The mortgage process should drive itself, not because humans aren't needed, because the right technology can handle everything that does not require a human. And Autopilot is finally that thesis arriving. And because of what we're seeing in mortgage, the most complex, most heavily regulated process in consumer finance, We believe the same infrastructure extends naturally to home equity, deposits, auto, cards, personal lending, and I think probably broadly, given how much we've honed the harness and the evals around autopilot, probably beyond that to other aspects of underwriting. Agentic AI doesn't replace and doesn't need to replace relationship banking, but it makes it possible to have our customers, the lenders, be even more focused on their customers once again at scale. Shifting gears, if you're following along the webcast, I'd ask you to advance this slide with the words, our AI strategy transforming how we work at the top. This slide gives you a glimpse of how Blend itself is transforming and how it is going to look in the future. And we're calling that Blend 3.0, where if you think of Blend 1.0 as the first 10 years where we built a market leading company, and we're growing quite a bit, growing our market share, growing our customer base and rolling out our first products. And Blend 2.0 is the last four years where we were creating a profitable, long-term, sustainable entity. Blend 3.0 is an agentic first company. And that doesn't mean just for our products, but that also means how we work internally. And last quarter, I described this pattern. An agent will, in the end state of Blend, take the first pass of the incoming work, especially the grunt work that I described earlier before a team member even touches it and applies their judgment. So I won't repeat all that today, but I want you to look at the graph and the graph shows one specific team in the company, which is actually one of our biggest teams, which is the engineering team. And if you look at the gray line and you look at pull requests, which is the gray line in 2025, it was pretty flat throughout the year. And during the holidays, it trailed off And then you look at the blue line this year, we have 3.6x our throughput as an engineering team with roughly the same headcount just since January of this year. 3.6x the throughput. I don't know if you remember, but I told you in May that we were running roughly one and a half times compared to what we were doing in January. And that was the average. That was just three months ago. And now we're 3.6 times. It's a profound thing to think about, which means if we continue at this pace, we could be doing 10 times as much throughput on the engineering team by the end of this year as what we did the end of last year. And I think that will continue to compound as an advantage for us to turn into velocity of fixing customer bugs, handling customer feature and enhancement requests, building the new things like autopilot that power the future of our industry at a faster and better pace. and that's really important because the essence of any software company is how do you serve your customers and create value for your customers? And I think that trend will continue to steepen as we adopt further AI within our organization and as the models get better over time. But given the success that we're seeing in engineering, the next phase that we're doing and what I believe is our job is to take this to the whole company. And so this past quarter, We expanded our efforts in agentic first approaches and we expanded to our go-to-market organization where agents now are reviewing support tickets that come in immediately. And if it's a bug that needs fixing, it can open a pull request. If it's a simple response that they want or a configuration change, it can draft that up for a human to go and click. Yep, that's right or no, that's wrong. I need to change that. Thank you for joining us. Less of a security issue or less of a code issue or less of something that doesn't even need a human approval. I think eventually over time we'll even not need human approvals for some of those things. But it's different functions that I'm talking about, but it's one operating model of how I think the future of agentic technology is. It's still early days, but this is one of the most active topics inside Blend right now. Our leadership team is meeting regularly about it because becoming an agent-first company is an operating decision, not a side project. It's a whole company effort to figure out how would we reimagine this amazing company and customer base from the ground up. because we now get that opportunity because we're profitable, we have our house in order, and all these technologies are accelerating right in front of our eyes. And I said in May that we aim to be in the top 1% of all companies in agentic AI adoption, and that's still the goal. We're tracking our progress by function, we're taking it one piece at a time, and I expect to share more with you in the coming quarters as this rollout matures. Lastly, I want to talk about growth because I know that's a question on everyone's mind. Well, to start with the bad news, the macro is not helping us right now. Mortgage rates moved from 6.4% or so in May to 6.8% in recent weeks because of wars and things that are going on that are outside of our control. And that keeps activity in the market, especially refinance activity, but also purchase activity, muted. And so I've always said we can't control the macro. I just want you to be aware of it because we're obviously paying close attention to it. and it might sort of mute future quarters like Q4 if we expect a certain amount of refinance activity and it doesn't come because rates are high. Just more being aware of it. But that's okay. Our ultimate goal has been and is to generate long-term sustainable growth regardless of the macro environment. In the quarter, we signed 14 new deals and expansions and there's two that I want to highlight. The first is a new logo with a large credit union that included Autopilot right out of the gate. So I think this will be the new norm with our customers as they sign with us. We have some more deals in pipeline that have the same shape, but it's the first time a customer chose Blend and chose Autopilot as part of that initial package. A Gentic AI is becoming table stakes and our customers want it and need it, in fact, to be the best versions of themselves. And I think, like I said, it's a preview of how many of our deals are going to look going forward. The second deal I want to talk about is a cross-sell of our rapid refi and rapid home equity into a top five credit union, which they signed with us a couple of years ago. They got rolled out. They're happy. And this is a great example of how we can expand and deepen with customers as we drive the initial projects to success. And our pipeline continues to build. On our last call, I told you our overall pipeline was up more than 40% year over year, and that overall pipeline is still growing. But the stat I'm more excited about as the year goes on is a narrower one. We brought in new sales leadership this year, at the start of this year, and our late-stage pipeline, the deals we aim to close within the next quarter, grew nearly 40% just between March and June. Late-stage pipeline is what actually is near signing, so it comes with a lot higher level of visibility and Confidence. Just to put some color around this pipeline, that includes another large mortgage customer, a top 20 financial institution, and a solid set of rapid and autopilot deals, which, for example, we expect two additional large rapid deals to close in the coming months. Now, I want to be honest about timing. We expect our pipeline to become signed deals in the coming quarter or so, and maybe some slip. And those signed deals become revenue But this is all dealing with some of the largest financial institutions in the country. So as they sign and they turn on, we expect them to show up in our financials in the medium term. But it does take some time for very large financial institutions to get through their governance around things like agentic tools. So with all that said, I want to say the direction is very clear. Our customers are excited about it. Our largest customers are really leaning in, and my confidence is very high. Our sales discipline that Matt has put in place isn't just limited to new business. It extends to how we manage renewals. We're doing a better job of getting our customers discussions around renewals with us earlier in the process, which means more relationship aspects to working with them, renewing customers for longer terms, broadening the relationship at renewal, and making sure that our pricing reflects the value we deliver which Jason will give you some more color later on how we're thinking about this, where we're seeing renewals and upsells, where we're seeing churn. So let me give you that other side of the coin right now, which is the core of our customer base is renewing for longer and for more. So to wrap it up, the short-term market with the macro, it sort of is what it is. But we're staying disciplined and profitable inside of it. The medium and long term is what we're focused on. 2027 and beyond, as we get autopilot going commercial and growing that, the pipeline we're building, the speed we're gaining with the agentic transformation internally. I am extremely energized about what Blend looks like on the other side of this cycle, not just for us, but for our customers. and ultimately, because we have a value based pricing model, what that means for our financials and for our investors. And so with that, I'm going to turn it over to Jason to walk through the financials.

Thanks, Nima, and thank you to everyone else joining us on the call. We delivered a solid second quarter with total revenue of $33.8 million, up 7% year over year and near the high end of our $32 to $34 million guidance range. Mortgage Street Revenue was $19.2 million, up 7% year over year, within the growth range we discussed on our last call. Funded mortgage loans on our platform were approximately $233,000 in Q2, up 14% year over year, and in line with our expectations coming into the quarter. That volume growth was partially offset by a lower year-over-year economic value per funded loan, which came in at $79, consistent with the $79 to $80 range we guided to in May. As a reminder, the step down from $83 in Q1 is primarily mathematical. Q1 is seasonally the high watermark, given its lower mortgage volumes. and higher volumes in Q2 mechanically lower the per loan calculation given that there are some fixed fee arrangements within our customer base. Consumer banking suite revenue for the second quarter was $12.2 million, up 6% year over year, slightly above the high end of the growth range we shared on our last call. And professional services revenue for the second quarter was $2.4 million, consistent with our expectations. Turning to profitability, non-GAAP gross profit was $26.5 million, and our non-GAAP gross margin was 78.3%, up from 76.1% in the second quarter of 2025, and consistent with the normalized gross margin framework of 77 to 78% we described last quarter after backing out the one-time benefits we saw in Q1. That gross margin improvement is despite the model costs for autopilot, which were relatively low but growing in Q2. We expect those costs to remain fairly insignificant relative to our P&L for the near future, but we will update you if we see anything different on the horizon. Non-GAAP operating expenses were $19.5 million in Q2, roughly flat year over year. Non-GAAP operating income was $7 million above the high end of our $5.5 to $6.5 million guidance range and represented a non-GAAP operating margin of 20.6%, an improvement of nearly six points compared to the second quarter of 2025. Free cash flow for the quarter was $6.9 million. We ended the quarter with $44.9 million in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities, and still with zero debt. During the second quarter, we repurchased 11 million shares at an average price of $1.65 per share. Year to date, we have repurchased 22.2 million shares for $36.8 million, leaving approximately $13.2 million remaining under our most recent share repurchase authorization of $50 million. We continue to believe that share repurchases are an excellent use of capital, especially at current valuation levels, though future repurchases will also be balanced against our aim to maintain ample liquidity to run the business. Before I give you the specific numbers, I want to frame how we're thinking about the environment because it shapes everything that follows. On our May call, and consistent with what we've said historically, we noted that our own outlook for the back half of 2026 was closely aligned with Fannie Mae, which at the time was forecasting roughly 19% full year growth in mortgage market volume. Since then, Fannie has lowered that outlook to about 17%. Our current view is slightly more conservative than Fannie Mae, as we expect refinance volumes to remain muted in a higher for longer rate environment. Specifically, we struggle with Fannie's forecast showing refi growth in the back half of the year, despite higher interest rates. Fannie may update their forecasts, but until then, we're taking the more conservative view. Additionally, we saw an uptick in churn notices this quarter relative to recent quarters. These are customers who are notifying us that they plan to roll off of Blend, though the timeline and ultimate impact is still to be determined. In most of these cases, customers plan to move to lower cost or free point solutions. We expect the revenue impact to be manageable in the low single digits of annual revenue, but it's a dynamic we're watching closely, and as such, we have reflected some caution in how we're thinking about the second half of the year. With that context, let me walk you through how we see the next two quarters. Starting with the third quarter, we expect total revenue to be between $31.5 and $33.5 million, representing approximately negative 4 to positive 2% year-over-year growth. Underneath these headline numbers, we expect a total mortgage market of 1,200,000 to 1,260,000 units, which is up 5% at the midpoint. and Blend funded loan volume of approximately 200 to 210,000 loans, which is up 2% at the midpoint. This translates to mortgage suite revenue change of approximately negative four to positive 3% year over year. We expect economic value for funded loan of approximately 80 to $81. We expect year-over-year consumer banking suite revenue growth of between negative 5% and positive 1% in the third quarter, consistent with the moderation we discussed on our last call. And we expect Q3 non-GAAP operating income to be between $3.5 and $4.5 million, implying a non-GAAP operating margin at the midpoint of approximately 12%. As a reminder, the third quarter expense includes our annual Blend Forum customer event. consistent with prior years, which we expect to drive approximately $1.5 million sequential step up in sales and marketing expense quarter over quarter. Looking beyond Q3, I wanna give you our current view on fourth quarter volumes. Fannie Mae's most recent forecast is calling for roughly flat market volume in the fourth quarter. As I mentioned earlier, that forecast may get updated at some point, but for now, our own outlook is a little bit more conservative, and we expect total market size of 1.105 million to 1.165 million units, or down about 11% year-over-year at the midpoint. Against that backdrop and factoring in the final tail on the roll-off of the large customer we've discussed on prior calls, We'd expect Blend's fourth quarter funded loan volume to be approximately 180,000 to 190,000 loans or down approximately 10% to 15% year over year. While this is our current best estimate, I should note that the macro backdrop remains highly fluid and sensitive to rates. Finally, on autopilot, as you heard from Nima, we are very excited about the early commercial momentum. But we continue to encourage you to be cautious about incorporating autopilot revenue into your models at this juncture. We plan to provide additional information on the potential impact to our model as customers and prospects move through the funnel and we have more time under our belt. In summary, we delivered the quarter we aimed for. Revenue near the high end, profitability above the high end, and a strategic return of capital through our share buyback. The macro remains a headwind, and we've tried to give you a clear view of how we see volumes in the market. but the underlying drivers we control, our customer wins, our product velocity, and now the commercialization of autopilot are all moving in the right direction. And they set us up to re-accelerate growth as we head into 2027. And with that, let's open up the call to your questions.

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Oh, great. Thank you. Nima, last quarter you commented that you thought agents and autopilot provided a path to potentially see 10% to 15% incremental revenue growth in 27. Given you're now a month into selling the one-year flat rate autopilot contract, you've got six lenders signed. and the commentary on, you know, it takes a little while to get through governance at large financial institutions. Does that sentiment hold today?

Yeah, I don't want to give, you know, any additional further guidance there. But yeah, you know, the pipeline is both good in terms of what we signed, but also I would say a large number of our largest finance. I think the thing that surprised me last quarter and this quarter was how much our largest financial institutions were leaning in. And I'll give one One anecdote about that, which is some of the biggest banks in the country, it's always been an executive priority, but the way we're seeing the business line and the tech lines at these places push the rest of their organization to get this into place, has been surprising to me. I mean, it takes a lot to go and say, we really need to make this happen for our business, but they're doing that. I think that's why our largest customers are leaning in. Some are in either late stage trials with us or in final approvals with their internal committees. But like I said, those things take time and we're very excited about it. And probably more importantly, and I sort of said this quickly in the prepared remarks, but the early numbers from Autopilot, man, I mean, We have about 50,000 loans that have gone through in the last few months and get to see some of the differences between the numbers before and after for those lenders. It's really cool to see, especially given how early it is and the dual tailwind we have of our own work accelerating and the models getting better, our own work around the harness, I should say, accelerating, and then the models that are underlying it getting better. I think the way that we've set this up is to become this compounding machine for us. Like I said, it's early, but the early signs are promising. More encouraging than I would have thought if you had told me in January of this year, we're going to be creating this product from scratch, and here's where we are six months later.

Understood. Yeah, I think that chart on slide eight with the cumulative loans processed every two weeks is fairly compelling. And then the second question I have, for Blend 3.0, how do you think about the balance between faster innovation and better products versus OPEX leverage? That's one of the main questions I get from investors, I guess. Based on today's update, when does the 3.6 times increase in pull requests turn into either revenue or operating leverage?

That's a great question. And I think some of the revenue side is answered by even the previous answer I gave, which is these products, they take some time to become a reality in a market as regulated as this. It's part of our moat, actually. Thank you so much. That's why I kept sort of focusing on... I focused our team internally on sort of the medium term, which is 2027. As these deals mature, as they get live and they get at scale, how do we use that as a weapon for us, but not focus on how do I drive immediate today results at the expense of maybe 2027 and 2028 results? And so That's the beauty of being a profitable company right now in this terrible mortgage market with the macro working against us is that we can focus on the medium term and long term, which I know our investors care so much about. What does this company look like with an agentic core product that's driving a lot of the growth. And with a macro that comes back to life, what does it look like in that environment? And so we're very focused on that. I'm proud of the way the team is executing in this moment. Obviously, there's a lot more work to do for us. And just the level of focus and intensity that the team has put in place around these have been great for me to see as someone who's obviously been

Thank you.

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Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. First off, Nima, it's great to see the impact Autopilot is having on the mortgage side. I'm just wondering, is Autopilot also available to your consumer banking clients? And maybe you can speak to the opportunity there if there are any updates and have a follow-up.

Yeah, it's built into our platform. And so we have the baselines in place to support all of our customers, which they're excited about. It's a big request we get from our customers of how can you help? Some of them have multiple product lines with us. How can you help this other business line that's still manually verifying IDs or forms that get filled out and sent to them? and so we do not have that live yet, but I'd say stay tuned. It's something that we're thinking hard about and we have some early customer engagement around and just to share a little bit our approach on building products like this is pick a few Lighthouse customers, drive it deep with them, prove the value and then expand it to the market shortly thereafter. And I don't mean over the course of a year, I mean over the course of a quarter or two and drive that as quickly as possible.

Got it. And you mentioned two deals in the credit union channel. Maybe we can get an update on the channel in general and what the pipeline there looks like. Thank you.

Yeah, we don't have a specific breakout of credit union versus bank versus independent mortgage company or other financial institutions. But I can say, I mean, we have such a good base of customers with some of the largest credit unions down to medium and community credit unions. And they're the ones who are, I'd say, of the segments we have, they're very member self-serve first. And so they're very aligned to our sort of product principles of how do we help someone who's applying at two in the morning get a full approval? You know, the rapid suite that we talk about is a great example of this, you know, alongside autopilot, especially. How do we help someone get a full approval and offer initially and then a full approval in the middle of the night? I think that's what makes us so aligned with this segment is that they just want to serve as many members as they can. They love the self-serve member experience, and it fits really well with our product sort of vision long term.

Thank you. That's all for me.

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Tomasello with KBW Your line is now open, please go ahead

Hi, everyone. This is Juan Chong on for Ryan. Thanks for taking the questions. I just want to double-click on Jason's comment on the uptick on chart notices in the quarter. I understand that the impact is pretty small, but could you share a bit more color here? Are these going to be like the AI-native point solutions that have just gone on the market, or maybe customers are moving to build-in-house?

No, it's a good question. Really, we saw people going to existing low-cost providers. and it's hard to call it a trend. We don't have enough data points yet, but one of the things I would say is, look, we're suffering a little bit with this rate environment and the macro and what that's doing to the mortgage volumes, but our customers are suffering at least as much. they're looking for ways to save money and it's a tough environment for them as well. So I think that's what we're seeing in the few cases that we've had.

Yeah, that's helpful. I have a follow-up. Just one of the broader trends across the mortgage market has been market share shifting towards the broker channel. How do you think this could affect blend and where do you think trends are going?

We've noticed that over the past few years, actually, not a short-term trend. It went from maybe single-digit percentages to 15-ish, maybe up to high teens percent in the broker channel. But the thing I would say is I think our customers, whether it's IMBs of all sizes or banks of all sizes or credit unions of all sizes, I think that A lot of them are leaning into this market. One thing that I hear, the ones who are our customers, even going back to the last question, the ones who are our customers are the ones who are betting on the future and betting that as they get these new technologies in place, as they make the most of our system, the most of the other systems they have in place, they're going to keep growing. And so I'm seeing, I'd say this year especially, Maybe 2025 and 2024, people were getting their house in order, just like maybe we were. But this year especially, we're seeing companies in our customer base say, it's time to invest in the future. I think that was probably part of the cause of some of the shift to other channels, where maybe some companies couldn't invest in 2023, 2024, or part of 2025. But as the market is stabilized, I think our customers are investing in the future. So I can't speak for the market as a whole, but I can say for our customer base, people are really leaning in. They want new solutions. They want to be able to serve their customers better. They want to have better internal operations. And so our customers, given how much they're focused on improvement, I think that our customer base is going to continue to win in this market.

Got it. Yeah, that's super helpful. Thanks.

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Hey, Nima, Jason, Meg, appreciate it. Nima, for you, on autopilot, encouraging early interest, but wondering, and you gave some good statistics around the improvement in pull-through, reduction in cycle time. and each of those on an individual basis is compelling, but wondering how you're thinking about your opportunity to kind of orchestrate the entire funnel of the workflow and all of those kind of individual points compounding on each other as it pertains to customer ROI, maybe how that's driving conviction and the autopilot strategy and really what's differentiated from some of those potentially alternative tools or capabilities here.

Yeah, and maybe just to give some color, because I think this is a really profound question, just to give some color on how typical solutions in the market that I see, and I see a new thing pop up, whether it's from an existing back office or middle office player, or even from others who are in our space. And a lot of what they do is they take an existing process and they layer on something new, like you have a document that was uploaded, create a button, or A little entry, a text box on that document to say, hey, did this document meet the guidelines? And that's basically saying we think the existing process needs more intelligence built in, which is the exact opposite of how I view this concept that I've talked about now for two quarters around the background worker agency, the ambient intelligence that I referred to in past quarters. and it's the antithesis of Autopilot, in fact. And so I think you're spot on with your specific comment around how do we orchestrate the entire process. And a lot of what I have worked with our team on in terms of the vision for Autopilot and especially coming together with Rapid, where Rapid gets you a real-time offer and then Autopilot should get you in that first session from that real-time offer to clear to close. That's where the market needs to go, where a consumer can come through and have a self-driving process where they get a great personalized offer and they're ready to close. And that was all done at 2 in the morning. And that's all possible today, regardless of existing infrastructure out there. The beauty of autopilot being an open harness that can hook into our system or any other system is it doesn't care what systems are in place. It's just saying, this is the work that needs to get done. Let's get this done right now. And it's not there yet in terms of getting a customer involved. An offer with Rapid and then all the way to clear to close in autopilot. But that's the direction that it's heading. And we're going to keep working until the loans are ready to close at 2 a.m. in the morning. And with the system checking every document, requesting new information, working with the consumer in real time to get that information. I mean, that's the direction intelligence is going. There's no reason in a market, in any market like this. On a credit card, it would be confusing if you had to wait Thank you so much for joining us. or underwriting sort of assistant, if you will. I mean, that's the type of thing that I think is possible now. And that's what we're driving towards. And that's where this compounding benefit, to use your words, will come into play for our customers who will be able to do things at rates that they didn't think were possible.

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you, Nima. And maybe a quick one for Jason. Appreciate the color on the mechanics of the outlook. If we look at EVPFL, that's cropped in 2Q expected to kind of step up. I guess just clarity around how much of that is kind of the mechanics of lower volume uplift versus maybe incremental product cross-sell. And I know we're not saying autopilot is layering in any capacity, but if at all any extent that that's driving some of that uplift as well. Thanks.

Yeah. I mean, our volume expectations aren't that much different for for Q2 and Q3. So I think it's mostly just the dynamics in the business. Obviously, we're not guiding to a very different number. It's not a big change either way. So I would think about Q2 and Q3 as sort of steady state with each other.

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